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Who’s Tired of F**king Yelling & Fighting All The Time?! (Real Housewives of Rhode Island S1 E9) · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with on our radio.
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Speaker 2: This week's Real Housewives of Rhode Island has a Pizza
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Speaker 2: Mama when you get paid, a Miss slam Pig coming
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Speaker 2: back for another, and somehow Frank Sinatra is in the
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Speaker 2: mix too. Hey, get some crackers. This one was a doozy, Lauren.
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Speaker 3: I gotta say, there's too much Kelsey in this episode
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Speaker 3: for my liking.
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Speaker 2: Oh, come on, it's good stuff right now.
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Speaker 3: It's good stuff, I know, but like, I don't think
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Speaker 3: she's very funny. We'll get to the sash later. I
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Speaker 3: know that she's telling Liz all these awful things about Rosie. Now,
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Speaker 3: look who's talking.
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Speaker 2: It's Kelsey, Okay, Lauren. Last week we had the big
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Speaker 2: discussion that so many of the Real Housewives fans are
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Speaker 2: having right now. Yeah, whose side are you on in this?
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Speaker 2: I told you that I thought Rosie overreacted. Doesn't mean
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Speaker 2: that I think she has not been the victim of
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Speaker 2: a lot of bowling. Yeah, a lot of like poking
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Speaker 2: the bear. The bear reacted in a big way. But
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Speaker 2: I do think she overreacted to the blowhorn joke, and
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Speaker 2: I still would call it a joke.
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Speaker 3: I called a joke in the Internet. I was like,
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Speaker 3: how are people going to take this? How are gonna
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Speaker 3: take this? They are like, go off, Queen team Rosie,
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Speaker 3: you poke the bear too much? All these things in
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Speaker 3: the comments, So what do we know? Truly?
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Speaker 2: What do we know? I mean, I I do think
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Speaker 2: Kelsey was trying to land a joke that was not funny.
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Speaker 2: She is not won comedian, no, and it's not working.
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Speaker 2: These are mean spirited jokes, and Rosie is just done
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Speaker 2: taking it. She's done dealing with it. So my question is,
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Speaker 2: if you are unbiased Lauren, to start this episode going
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Speaker 2: into whose side are you on?
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Speaker 3: I am still on Rosie's side, but I feel like
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Speaker 3: it would be great if the episode started out with
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Speaker 3: Rosie being like, I want a little overboard. I understand
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Speaker 3: it was a joke. Let's actually like, I apologize for
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Speaker 3: saying all these things to you, But the amount of
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Speaker 3: things she did say you can't really go back from.
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Speaker 3: There's no way Kelsey'd be like, it's okay and then
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Speaker 3: move on. The slam pig, the sleeping with married men,
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Speaker 3: all the things. I don't think we can come back
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Speaker 3: from it at this point.
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Speaker 2: As we can see, you're a little far gone. Yeah, Lauren,
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Speaker 2: when you have a conversation an argument with a group
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Speaker 2: of friends, Kelsey came into this either let me rephrase
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Speaker 2: my question. Did you perceive Kelsey throughout this episode showing
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Speaker 2: confidence or insecure security? Or is she does she like
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Speaker 2: believe she's right and all this so much that she
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Speaker 2: is kind of not afraid to charge in through it,
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Speaker 2: Like she doesn't mind being around Rosie. Obviously Rosie doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to be around Kelsey, right, But she's like, I'll
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Speaker 2: do it and I'll even up it, like I'm not
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Speaker 2: even trying to make friends here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sensing confidence because I think she knows
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Speaker 3: at the end of the day, everything that she was
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Speaker 3: originally mad about had no ground, especially when they go
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Speaker 3: to dinner and you see in this when they're talking
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Speaker 3: about Alicia and how she exaggerated the truth about homelessness,
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Speaker 3: and then she realizes, she goes, oh, so she exaggerated
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Speaker 3: a little bit. And then she realized, she goes, oh,
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Speaker 3: I was so mad at Rosie for exaggerating a little
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Speaker 3: bit about a square footage, and she caught herself there.
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Speaker 3: But she realizes everything that she was mad about Rosie
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Speaker 3: for had no ground. So now that she does after
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Speaker 3: this fight, because she was called a mistress, a slampig,
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Speaker 3: all the things. Now I think she she's confident enough
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Speaker 3: to go out there and be like, I'm so right
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Speaker 3: and I can be around you because I am confident
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Speaker 3: in this. I don't think she was last week before
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Speaker 3: the fight.
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Speaker 2: What is the biggest difference in your mind between Rosie
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Speaker 2: and Kelsey as people as humans?
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Rosie has a little more integrity.
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Speaker 3: I would say, like she does everything kind of yeah
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Speaker 3: by the playbook like she does, I don't know, Like
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Speaker 3: she had her a job, she moved out of the house,
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Speaker 3: she got a job, she lived on her own, she
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Speaker 3: met her husband, she did everything kind of like buy
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Speaker 3: the book. Kelsey did not, and she admits that many times,
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Speaker 3: and then she talks about how she is still receiving money.
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Speaker 3: I would just say, like one has a little more integrity.
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Speaker 3: But also I don't want to shame Kelsey for like
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Speaker 3: getting her bag, and I don't want to shame her
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Speaker 3: for like taking advantage of being a hot young girl,
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Speaker 3: because like I should have done that more honestly, So
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Speaker 3: I honestly, like I don't think there's much like a
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Speaker 3: crazy difference. I wouldn't know how to say other than
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Speaker 3: the fact that their paths in life have been very different.
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Speaker 2: Lauren the quote of the show. I wis Sho would
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Speaker 2: have done.
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Speaker 3: That more absolutely?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, this episode starts, we're kind of
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Speaker 2: getting the many conversations I think to set the scene
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Speaker 2: for the rest of the episode, where Kelsey calls Liz
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Speaker 2: in the car to kind of walk this through. It
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Speaker 2: sounds like Rosie called obviously Ashley, but then also Joe Ellen.
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Speaker 2: They're kind of spreading this story before the group regathers,
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Speaker 2: so that everybody's in the loop on what happened, what
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Speaker 2: went down. The interesting thing here is that Kelsey is
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Speaker 2: claiming that Rosie allegedly had an affair with a married
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Speaker 2: man at her old job, which ruined that marriage. And
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Speaker 2: so I think in like the nineties, we called that
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Speaker 2: what a home wrecker?
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Speaker 3: Yes, and it's like, oh, it ruined his marriage, Like,
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Speaker 3: how about the man makes responsibility for ruining his marriage.
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Speaker 2: Yes, But that's why I'm saying, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: there's that big a difference between the two. I think
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Speaker 2: they both as they were younger and as they're you know,
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Speaker 2: attractive people, seem to have made decisions that both of
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Speaker 2: them could be critical of leading up to this point
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Speaker 2: in time on the Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Neither
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Speaker 2: of them. Neither of them can throw stones.
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Speaker 3: I guess so true, because if what Rosie said was
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Speaker 3: true about Kelsey that she sleeps with married men, and
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Speaker 3: what Kelsey saying, you know, vice versa, then then yes
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Speaker 3: they can't throw stones. But for some reason, like why
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Speaker 3: don't I believe Kelsey? I don't believe what Kelsey is
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Speaker 3: saying about Rosie? But is that because I believe I
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Speaker 3: Just everything Kelsey has said before hasn't really been.
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Speaker 2: True, Okay, So you're like bringing in the like critic
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Speaker 2: the things that Kelsey have said that it's critical of Rosie,
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Speaker 2: like the scir footage or house and all that stuff,
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Speaker 2: and saying, yes, well you're wrong there, so you're wrong.
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Speaker 2: Probably also in this stuff, you could just be making
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Speaker 2: things up to make things up.
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Speaker 3: She could be making things up because why haven't we
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Speaker 3: heard about this before? Why why is it okay for
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Speaker 3: this to come out now? When she's hated Rosie for
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Speaker 3: so long? And they're like why why, and they're like
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Speaker 3: because she lies. It's like you should have said X
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Speaker 3: y Z hot cheating blah blah blah.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Is it weird, Lauren? I might just be a weird guy,
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Speaker 2: I think. I actually, I kind of know I am.
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Speaker 2: But the only thing I think about when I think
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Speaker 2: about Rosie in her working career is a bleeding butthole.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that amazing? But that's the legacy she has left.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's all I can get past. Anytime I
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Speaker 2: hear Rosie and work, that's what I think of, And
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Speaker 2: I don't. And I mean, it's not like it's something
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Speaker 2: I enjoy, it's what I like associate her work with.
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Speaker 3: I know it's unfortunate, but it's such a funny line.
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Speaker 3: We do need address the fact that, I guess Rosie
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Speaker 3: was allegedly involved with a coach, a basketball coach, which
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Speaker 3: she said at the very beginning of the first episode,
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Speaker 3: I've never even met this man, and Kelsey does bring
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Speaker 3: up the fact that he is paying her off and
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Speaker 3: that's why she can build this house, and honestly makes
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Speaker 3: a little bit of sense, like I really don't know
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Speaker 3: where the funds are coming from for Rosie's house, because,
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Speaker 3: like her husband has a lot of small jobs. And
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Speaker 3: then she doesn't work for the news anymore. She works
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Speaker 3: for forget the name of the the.
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Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Rhode Island.
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Speaker 3: She works in the Real Housewives of Rhode Island, which
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Speaker 3: I don't think pays very much at the moment. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: she works for a local show, which I'm sure doesn't
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Speaker 3: offer that much in the salary, So we don't really
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Speaker 3: know where their funds are coming from. So it is
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Speaker 3: an interesting story that Kelsey is saying.
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Speaker 2: The Frank Sinatra gig pays so much money.
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Speaker 3: I bet I'm sure.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's getting tips and tips and tips and
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Speaker 2: they're doing just fine there. This basketball coach, how bad
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Speaker 2: is it going to be when he watches this.
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Speaker 3: We don't even know who this man is. We got
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Speaker 3: no name.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think his like wife maybe had inkling
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Speaker 2: at some point that hey, that rosy girl seems to
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Speaker 2: be too close and he cut it off. And now
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Speaker 2: it's coming back around as they watch The Real Housewives
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Speaker 2: of Rhode Island and he is She's like sitting on
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Speaker 2: the couch being like, is it you?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're so right. So you're looking at it with
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Speaker 3: very clear eyes, and I'm not looking at it like that.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at it, like, oh, she said she doesn't
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Speaker 3: know him, so she doesn't know him, So we got
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Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of this.
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Speaker 2: Maybe my hope, yeah, for all of this is that
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Speaker 2: she doesn't know him, and that there was no marriage
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Speaker 2: or relationships hurt in the process of the making of
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Speaker 2: these women that now we watch on Real Housewives.
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Speaker 3: Right, But like, don't you know, like when you're watching
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Speaker 3: ESPN or something and there's an attractive reporter and they're
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Speaker 3: talking to any male, they're like, oh, they're sleeping together. Oh,
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Speaker 3: they have a crush on each other. It just works
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Speaker 3: that way kind of.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's a lot of rumors. I guess that
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Speaker 2: is true. Yeah, we do get a little taste of
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Speaker 2: the ash in Jared relationship in good old Real Housewives fashion,
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Speaker 2: Ashley and Jared are at a restaurant depot, pretty much
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Speaker 2: a large Costco for restaurants. They're great places. That is
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Speaker 2: exactly the scene that I would want to see Ashley
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Speaker 2: and Jared in Ashley. I would imagine Ashley goes ham
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Speaker 2: at a Costco.
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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, Yeah. I don't think she's been in a while,
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Speaker 3: but she does love a good bargain.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves a good bargain, and I would just
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Speaker 2: imagine she likes buying in bulk. Yeah, she like buying
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Speaker 2: in bulk.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, honestly, her house is never stocked with things.
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Speaker 3: I think she is away a lot of the time.
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Speaker 3: But you could starve at her house. Yeah, she should
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Speaker 3: be buying in balkmore. You have to find scraps of
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Speaker 3: food to survive in that house.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or ten day old spaghetti.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: This is where we see the Rosy and Kelsey stuff
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Speaker 2: starting to come to a head. Rosie facetimes Ashley during
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Speaker 2: this and lets her know that trivia still on. She
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Speaker 2: wants her there, but Kelsey will also be there. At
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Speaker 2: this point, Rosie is saying, I'm not doing it. In fact,
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Speaker 2: I was kind of like in the back of my head, going, Ashley,
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Speaker 2: let Rosie not come, Like, if she's offering it up,
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Speaker 2: not to be there. This is a good way to
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Speaker 2: not create any drama. But Ashley, I think, in her
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Speaker 2: own unique way, thought, no, this will be fine. It's
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Speaker 2: trivia and I to Audrey's and everybody's gonna get along.
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Speaker 2: There's not going to be anything that happens here. This
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Speaker 2: is a family place. That's one point I want to
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Speaker 2: make that families come and enjoy themselves at How could
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Speaker 2: anything happen? We know that, you know, Ashley and Rosie
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Speaker 2: are friends, but this is also a good opportunity for
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Speaker 2: Ashley to step out outside of Rosie and she doesn't.
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Speaker 3: Do it well on talk to someone else.
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Speaker 2: It would be big. It would have been a I
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Speaker 2: think looking back, we'd have to ask Ashley. I'm wondering
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Speaker 2: if hindsight is yeah, I should have just let Rosie
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Speaker 2: not come, like if Kelsey was gonna come. Either way,
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Speaker 2: I should have said Rosie, please, it's not worth it
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Speaker 2: for me.
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Speaker 3: I agree. I feel I felt like a little I could.
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Speaker 3: First of all, when Rosie said she wasn't gonna come,
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Speaker 3: you could see the terror in Nashley's eyes. She's like,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to have to talk to these women. You
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Speaker 3: have to come. I'll find a way, and she said
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Speaker 3: she needed to take time for some clarity on how
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Speaker 3: she's going to leave at the situation. But yeah, it
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Speaker 3: would have been great, and especially the way she split
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Speaker 3: the tables up, thinking that would be a great idea trivia.
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Speaker 3: They ended up pushing the tables together anyway and just
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Speaker 3: had at it. It was just it was a hard,
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Speaker 3: hard watch.
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Speaker 2: It was a hard watch because it is sensitive and
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Speaker 2: it is close to home here. But throughout this episode
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Speaker 2: we also have to continue along with the storylines that
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Speaker 2: have existed since episode one. That's where we see Rula
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Speaker 2: and Alicia at the beach day. Rula continues to make
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Speaker 2: appearances per episode, which makes me think that the show
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Speaker 2: really wants her involved. However, she is not a part
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Speaker 2: of the group by any means. We've seen her with
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Speaker 2: the group just to select few times. It feels to
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Speaker 2: me that she at some levels only agreeing to things
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Speaker 2: that are one on one and it's only when she
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Speaker 2: can kind of continue to push Joellen into this place
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Speaker 2: of I don't Joellen thinks she's an investigator, but she's not. However,
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Speaker 2: it's interesting Lauren to me that Alicia is on the
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Speaker 2: beach with her going yeah, but I know she kind
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Speaker 2: of is an investigator. She has more proof than what
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Speaker 2: you want to, you know, admit to or see.
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Speaker 3: It would have been a perfect opportunity to tell her
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Speaker 3: about the video. You could tell Rula was getting upset
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Speaker 3: when she was talking about Brian and how he used
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Speaker 3: to look at her in a certain way and he
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Speaker 3: doesn't like really look at her anymore like that, and
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Speaker 3: I would have been like, girl, if you're already sad,
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Speaker 3: now let's just cut it off. You'll have another man
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Speaker 3: who'll worshiped the ground you walk on again. And this
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Speaker 3: is why we need to wrap it up. Here's the video.
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Speaker 3: You and I are one on one now, but then
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Speaker 3: the a friend Amanda or something for Joellen's neighbor walks
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Speaker 3: up to them, and Rula is like, she also had
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Speaker 3: issues with Joe Ellen.
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Speaker 2: And that's that proves this big point that I don't
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Speaker 2: think got proven at all.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, Joellen was correct, So what are you
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Speaker 3: talking about?
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Speaker 2: And Amanda, maybe the reason you haven't seen Joellen recently
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Speaker 2: is because she's been filming this show that Rula's supposed
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Speaker 2: to be a part of. YEA, there could be that
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Speaker 2: there is an interesting line in here, Lauren that I
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Speaker 2: would love to get your perspective on. As somebody married
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Speaker 2: with child. Rula says that, you know, Brian used to
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Speaker 2: worship the ground she walked on, so she can't, you know,
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Speaker 2: picture this kind of scenario playing out now in recent memory.
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Speaker 2: But she says used to. Now Rula is still I
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Speaker 2: don't know how old she is, she's beautiful. Yeah, she's
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Speaker 2: you know, obviously somebody that has like a solid family connection.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things pointing there. It's like, hey,
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Speaker 2: as a wife, she seems to be an incredible partner
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Speaker 2: and also would look good doing it, you know, like
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Speaker 2: she's there's nothing love. What's not to love is a
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Speaker 2: better way to say it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: For Brian to stop, though, and and for her to
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Speaker 2: use that language makes me think that maybe that would
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Speaker 2: be a red flag, Like if I came home to
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Speaker 2: my wife, I hope she would say to people that
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Speaker 2: I would treat I treat her well. Five years from now.
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Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, Ben used to treat me so great.
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Speaker 2: We used to have this great marriage. That's a really
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Speaker 2: sad statement.
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Speaker 3: It's so sad. I was so sad for her when
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Speaker 3: she said that.
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Speaker 2: But it didn't feel like she was trying to say
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Speaker 2: it out of a place of sadness. It felt like
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Speaker 2: to me she was trying to say to prove her
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Speaker 2: point that there's no way Brian could be stepping out. Really,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. You argue they tell me that you
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Speaker 2: saw it differently.
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Speaker 3: I just saw it as like it was a really
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Speaker 3: hard time he I never would have expected this because
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Speaker 3: he used to walk worst of the ground I walk on,
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Speaker 3: and then this happened, and now we're just trying to
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Speaker 3: get back to that good place, not like he couldn't
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Speaker 3: be doing it again.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think you and I saw it two
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Speaker 2: different ways. I don't know which one can.
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Speaker 3: Even I can't even see it the way. I can't
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Speaker 3: even try to see it the way you saw it.
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Speaker 2: I felt like she was justifying the fact that she
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Speaker 2: doesn't think anything is happening by saying, no, he used
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Speaker 2: to where's the ground I walk on?
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Speaker 3: I just thought it was a sad statement, and Alicia
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Speaker 3: seemed like, all sweetie, like that's dreadful.
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Speaker 2: Alicia's an interesting person to have as a listening ear.
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Speaker 2: She doesn't really give she cares, and I think that's
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Speaker 2: an amazing part of Alicia through this whole season is
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Speaker 2: she cares. She cares about so much. This episode get
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Speaker 2: into her conversation about getting ownership in the pizza spot,
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Speaker 2: but she doesn't really give advice or give any insight.
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Speaker 2: She's I think, just a good listener and she I
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Speaker 2: think she's one of those people that you know you
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Speaker 2: want to call her up and talk to her about
16:57
Speaker 2: some of your stuff, because they're always going to agree
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Speaker 2: with you no matter what she actually thinks. She's just
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Speaker 2: gonna shake her head. Yes, Oh yeah, I know.
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Speaker 3: I think that's sweet. That's why Rosie and Kelsey both
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Speaker 3: go to her, and she's like, you're right, you're right,
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Speaker 3: You're right, Rula, You're you're in a great marriage whatever. Great,
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Speaker 3: great great. I kind I'm kind of that way, Honestly.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a great quality or not,
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Speaker 3: but I will agree with anyone who's in front of me,
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Speaker 3: and then maybe afterwards say, I don't know about that,
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Speaker 3: but Alicia, Alicia's not going to be the one to
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Speaker 3: tell Rula like how it is, because Alicia's standing there
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Speaker 3: being like, Rula, you tell me how it is and
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Speaker 3: how I should get my name on this business. You know,
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Speaker 3: Like she's trying to get advice from Rula because she
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Speaker 3: Rula is the strong one.
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Speaker 2: But is she also considers herself a financial expert? I
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Speaker 2: think is her words, I might have missed this. How like,
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Speaker 2: where is that coming from? Is that is she like
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Speaker 2: an advisor?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she owns a wealth management company.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so she's coming at this from a place of
18:02
Speaker 2: authority trying to help Alicia through this process. It gets
18:07
Speaker 2: very interesting for a second where I think both ladies
18:11
Speaker 2: are kind of talking about what life would look like
18:13
Speaker 2: post husband.
18:15
Speaker 3: I know, I'm a kind of confused why Alicia. I mean,
18:18
Speaker 3: I understand why Alicia's concerned, but it's not like she's
18:20
Speaker 3: trying to get out of this marriage.
18:33
Speaker 2: And when we see the two of them together, we'll
18:36
Speaker 2: just skip to that part because I think it kind
18:38
Speaker 2: of ties in here. Alicia and her daughter are doing this. Yeah, yeah,
18:45
Speaker 2: it's so middle school presentation. I know, but it's awesome.
18:50
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
18:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know it's amazing.
18:53
Speaker 2: But the daughter's hilarious in cue and Alicia is honestly
18:58
Speaker 2: hilarious and cute there this. It doesn't give business owner
19:03
Speaker 2: vibes necessarily, like, hey, you will be the one making
19:06
Speaker 2: decisions on behalf of this restaurant, like as her partner says, like,
19:11
Speaker 2: there is a lot of things that are said that
19:12
Speaker 2: are far reaching, so let's start with one thing and
19:16
Speaker 2: build from there. But it does show that Alicia cares,
19:20
Speaker 2: and I think that's an important point. It also, I
19:24
Speaker 2: have yet to see Lauren through this. Out of all
19:26
Speaker 2: the husbands. We obviously have Jared, who can do no
19:30
Speaker 2: wrong in any.
19:31
Speaker 3: Of our walls.
19:33
Speaker 2: But her partner Billy has always shown to be supportive
19:38
Speaker 2: of Alicia. Knowing what we know about Alicia, he doesn't
19:41
Speaker 2: like he kind of makes fun of her in like
19:43
Speaker 2: a flirty way. He enjoys her funny stuff that she says.
19:49
Speaker 2: He deals with the dolls. It never feels like he
19:53
Speaker 2: has been like mean to her. I do believe that
19:56
Speaker 2: we're getting a sense of when they first met, he
19:58
Speaker 2: was probably like, Hey, this isn't some I need to
20:00
Speaker 2: bring into the business. But they've been together long enough
20:03
Speaker 2: that he just wanted her to maybe speak up and
20:05
Speaker 2: say I want to be involved in the business. Yeah.
20:08
Speaker 3: I think honestly, her ideas are great. They're really cute,
20:11
Speaker 3: her little notes, the hard pizza. She has great ideas.
20:14
Speaker 3: I don't think she's exactly like an executor. I think
20:16
Speaker 3: she's more of the creative side. And I think that's
20:18
Speaker 3: what he's just trying to convey, like he's not. She's like,
20:21
Speaker 3: I would you trust me to run the business if
20:23
Speaker 3: you died or something. He's like, no, yes, that is
20:27
Speaker 3: the correct answer. She would not run the business. Well,
20:30
Speaker 3: she took a great offense to the fact that he
20:32
Speaker 3: has a money manager to take care of the books
20:35
Speaker 3: and everything like that and investments, and I wouldn't take offense.
20:39
Speaker 3: So that doesn't sound fun to me. That would be
20:41
Speaker 3: amazing to have a money manager.
20:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's exactly how she.
20:46
Speaker 3: Got to know that she's not gonna be good at it.
20:50
Speaker 2: And I like that he's honest with her. There's obviously
20:52
Speaker 2: other people involved in this restaurant group, and so he
20:56
Speaker 2: can't he can't just put his foot down and say, hey,
20:59
Speaker 2: Alicia is also going to now come in as an owner,
21:01
Speaker 2: because probably those men and women would say, well, yeah,
21:04
Speaker 2: my spouse is now also then. So he's navigating it
21:08
Speaker 2: by giving her some of the shares so that she
21:10
Speaker 2: can collect a dividend or have some ownership in this
21:13
Speaker 2: she can continue to create and expand and do her thing.
21:16
Speaker 2: I found this to be a really sweet scene me too.
21:22
Speaker 2: A couple was like earnestly communicating something that honestly, I
21:27
Speaker 2: bet both of them feel like they should have communicated
21:30
Speaker 2: five years previously.
21:31
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think they probably just felt comfortable and then
21:34
Speaker 3: the year after year things happened, and then they hear
21:36
Speaker 3: she has left with nothing. But I liked when he
21:39
Speaker 3: was like ten percent of Billie's share, not like the
21:43
Speaker 3: restaurant's share, and there was like if I work, So
21:45
Speaker 3: she actually wants to be held accountable.
21:48
Speaker 2: Yes, because it means she's probably easily distracted. Yeah, she
21:53
Speaker 2: has a lot of friends, she's filming a show. I
21:55
Speaker 2: actually have to work to get this, and I think
21:58
Speaker 2: it's wonderful. So it was a sweet scene. I think
22:00
Speaker 2: we're seeing that couple continue to grow together, which is
22:04
Speaker 2: awesome to watch during this crazy franchise that seems to
22:09
Speaker 2: be pointing out every issue relationally that exists between all
22:13
Speaker 2: these couples, it's nice to see one work together. Not
22:16
Speaker 2: much different Lauren during the kind of the heart of
22:19
Speaker 2: the episode in the middle of the episode, where we
22:20
Speaker 2: see Joel and Liz and Kelsey with their significant others
22:24
Speaker 2: go out to dinner. For the most part, this was
22:27
Speaker 2: it felt like a conversation touching on the rosy situation.
22:31
Speaker 2: Nothing new came from it, but we do get Kelsey
22:34
Speaker 2: bringing up the scenario where, hey, is it weird that
22:36
Speaker 2: my ex is still paying for everything? While at the
22:40
Speaker 2: same time bill is sitting next to her, and it's
22:43
Speaker 2: pretty clear that Bill has probably said something to her
22:47
Speaker 2: in private saying Kelsey, this is weird and you and
22:49
Speaker 2: I are growing together, but he we're still collecting a
22:52
Speaker 2: paycheck from this guy.
22:54
Speaker 3: That was the only note I wrote for the whole episode.
22:56
Speaker 3: I usually write lots of notes. I was like, the
22:58
Speaker 3: only one thing that really stood out to me was
23:01
Speaker 3: how weird that is and how she mentioned but if
23:06
Speaker 3: I get serious with Bill, then I don't get this money.
23:11
Speaker 3: So this rich man is holding this over her head?
23:15
Speaker 3: What to keep her on a little string?
23:18
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's where the question came from, is
23:20
Speaker 2: like what does he get out of this? Like, what's
23:21
Speaker 2: happening for him? Kelsey? I don't think wants to stay
23:25
Speaker 2: on this dude, you know, dime and live off this
23:28
Speaker 2: guy's money for the rest of her life. I did
23:31
Speaker 2: did I meant? Did I miss or mishear it that
23:35
Speaker 2: Liz's husband says, Hey, when we first met her ex
23:38
Speaker 2: was still sliding money out of the door. Yeah. Is
23:41
Speaker 2: this a Rhode Island thing? Is this an East Coast thing?
23:44
Speaker 2: Like when they're not married?
23:45
Speaker 3: Totally acceptable, totally acceptable. I was like, this is not
23:48
Speaker 3: a normal situation.
23:50
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't know. I've never met
23:53
Speaker 2: anybody that's dated somebody long term, broken up and then
23:59
Speaker 2: the ex supports the ex girlfriend with cash, Like I
24:05
Speaker 2: just I don't know that scenario. I've never heard of
24:08
Speaker 2: that being a thing.
24:09
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've only heard it from like actual sugar baby arrangements,
24:15
Speaker 3: not actual relationships that doesn't have alimony. Very interesting. Liz
24:21
Speaker 3: was saying something else like of what that relationship entailed,
24:25
Speaker 3: I can't really remember, but Liz was so like supportive
24:31
Speaker 3: of Kelsey, basically saying it was like a marriage. She
24:34
Speaker 3: gave her life, yeah, And Kelsey was like, I gave
24:36
Speaker 3: my life, Like you didn't give your life. You gave
24:39
Speaker 3: like maybe twenty five percent of it, Like it wasn't
24:42
Speaker 3: a marriage, Like everyone was sleeping with other people, traveling
24:46
Speaker 3: around like that wasn't anything.
24:48
Speaker 2: Well, and Kelsey got free room and board and got
24:53
Speaker 2: to use a pool, a chef, you know, a trainer
24:56
Speaker 2: probably like this, this wasn't like a bad scenario for her.
25:01
Speaker 3: She's like yeah, She's like I gave the best years
25:03
Speaker 3: of my life. And it's like you didn't. I mean, yeah,
25:05
Speaker 3: you did, but you didn't have to. You weren't like
25:07
Speaker 3: slaving over the stove or like raising children well.
25:11
Speaker 2: And I wonder how Bill feels listening to this because
25:14
Speaker 2: she's saying all this stuff, and I wonder if he's
25:17
Speaker 2: sitting there being like, hey, Kelsey, like I just want
25:19
Speaker 2: you and I to be thriving together, Like I want
25:23
Speaker 2: that chapter to be done. You gave up your twenties,
25:26
Speaker 2: you're thirty. We have a lot of life ahead of
25:29
Speaker 2: us together. Let's build on this together, because this like
25:33
Speaker 2: check kind of like looms over us and it is
25:37
Speaker 2: a little yeah, the masculating like it is a little
25:41
Speaker 2: bit of the hey, like I want to provide with
25:45
Speaker 2: you and for you. Can we now make this work? Yeah?
25:48
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely bizarre. I'm assuming the guy is still
25:54
Speaker 3: giving her money because she has no other form but
25:59
Speaker 3: if she is with Billy, then no other form of income.
26:03
Speaker 3: But then she is with Billy, then Billy could take
26:05
Speaker 3: care of her. So it's like take let your old
26:06
Speaker 3: man take care of her. So maybe the old man
26:09
Speaker 3: thinks Billy has no money.
26:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we know from Kelsey in previous episodes that
26:15
Speaker 2: he's doing fine. He's not. He doesn't have the pool
26:18
Speaker 2: with the chef and the personal trainer, but he is
26:22
Speaker 2: making his way, and obviously he can order a nice
26:25
Speaker 2: steak at a nice steakhouse and not have any concerns,
26:29
Speaker 2: which is nice for him. Hey, Lauren, we get into
26:33
Speaker 2: this scene that is very personal to you. Let's set
26:37
Speaker 2: the stage. Though you've been to Audrey's many times, I've
26:39
Speaker 2: been to Audrey's twice in my life. It is a
26:41
Speaker 2: wonderfully beautiful place, usually full of kids and families, drinking
26:46
Speaker 2: tremendous coffee or cocktails, eating great food in a nice,
26:51
Speaker 2: relaxing environment. It even has a fireplace, which is so special.
26:56
Speaker 3: So yes, it's the highlight of Audrey's or Aubrey if
27:00
Speaker 3: you ask Alicia.
27:02
Speaker 2: I like how they corrected it. Yeah, Ashley, you can
27:05
Speaker 2: tell put a lot of thought and effort into this night.
27:09
Speaker 3: I mean, this is her showing off her place of business,
27:12
Speaker 3: which just like Alicia shows off all of her restaurants.
27:16
Speaker 3: I guess she's worried that no one will be able
27:18
Speaker 3: to hear the questions over the arguing and fights with
27:22
Speaker 3: Kelsey and Rosie. And yeah, I guess she was right.
27:26
Speaker 3: You could see the worry on her face. Yet again,
27:27
Speaker 3: she can't hide anything. She's very scared, very concerned, so
27:31
Speaker 3: awkward keeps saying, quote, it's gonna be fun, It's gonna
27:35
Speaker 3: be fun. I think this will be good, and it's like, stop.
27:39
Speaker 2: Ashley seems so overstimulated during this. Yes, yes, she she
27:45
Speaker 2: seems so out of her element. And because I do
27:50
Speaker 2: think and you tell us you obviously know Ashley better
27:54
Speaker 2: than I ever will or anybody listening ever will, why
27:57
Speaker 2: is Ashley so now? Get granted, I like, I don't
28:02
Speaker 2: think it was wrong of her. I'm not. I think
28:04
Speaker 2: Ashley who had every right to hate what was happening
28:07
Speaker 2: at her coffee shop on a big night, trivia night
28:10
Speaker 2: with fans and friends there, I understand why, But like, why,
28:16
Speaker 2: out of all the other women there, why was Ashley so.
28:22
Speaker 3: Well? I think she probably thought, oh, this is my thing.
28:27
Speaker 3: I will have control over it a little bit more.
28:30
Speaker 3: It's gonna have to be a good time, because every
28:32
Speaker 3: time it's been so chaotic, maybe this will be the
28:34
Speaker 3: time where we all actually enjoy enjoyed time together. And
28:39
Speaker 3: I know that the food's gonna be good and the
28:41
Speaker 3: drinks are gonna be good, and trivia's fun and you
28:43
Speaker 3: can't like argue that much during trivia. And so that's
28:47
Speaker 3: one part of it. Another part of it is actually
28:49
Speaker 3: like growing up like never had like a huge like
28:52
Speaker 3: friend group, no sorority, you know, nothing like that. So
28:54
Speaker 3: like women arguing is very foreign to her, and it's
28:59
Speaker 3: like we never are with each other, so it is
29:02
Speaker 3: it is triggering for her to hear arguing. So that's
29:06
Speaker 3: kind of like two thin reasons of why she was
29:09
Speaker 3: tightly wound.
29:10
Speaker 2: Is she also competitive?
29:12
Speaker 3: She also competitive? Yes, she loves she loves trivia and
29:15
Speaker 3: all the nerdy stuff. Obviously we can tell that she
29:18
Speaker 3: wants I think she was trying to distract everyone by
29:21
Speaker 3: asking like the questions and keeping like, Okay, we're here
29:24
Speaker 3: for trivia. What is this question? What's his answer to be, like, okay,
29:27
Speaker 3: stoping arguing?
29:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wondered if it came from a place of competitives,
29:32
Speaker 2: because I do know Ashley is competitive. Even though she
29:35
Speaker 2: isn't the most athletic person, we know she is competitive,
29:39
Speaker 2: and this is I know she loves trivia night at
29:41
Speaker 2: Audrey's and she loves supporting Jared during this. Jared has
29:46
Speaker 2: always been that he can handle this stuff well, he
29:50
Speaker 2: just allows it to kind of like filter through. I
29:53
Speaker 2: think his breaking point would have been such a guy thing. Yeah,
29:56
Speaker 2: the breaking point would have been if like this to
29:58
Speaker 2: cuss or being thrown, I think could have been like, hey,
30:00
Speaker 2: you guys gotta get out Lauren. Has there been any
30:03
Speaker 2: backlash though? I mean, do you think the people there
30:06
Speaker 2: were loving that this was happening in front of them
30:08
Speaker 2: because it was distracting?
30:09
Speaker 3: Right?
30:10
Speaker 2: TVs make it obviously right up in our face, But
30:13
Speaker 2: it was loud enough, it was distracting enough that everybody
30:16
Speaker 2: in that room knew what was happening, right, Yeah.
30:19
Speaker 3: I mean I think they they put out a flyer
30:23
Speaker 3: being like, if you want to be part of Housewives
30:26
Speaker 3: or filming or something, you have to sign this, So
30:29
Speaker 3: they knew they were going to be part of it,
30:31
Speaker 3: and I'm sure they were hoping for some drama, some
30:33
Speaker 3: action going there.
30:34
Speaker 2: There were kids there.
30:35
Speaker 3: Sure, it was crazier than they ever could have imagined.
30:38
Speaker 3: Women are hiding ander.
30:39
Speaker 2: Tables, women are hiding under tables.
30:42
Speaker 3: Ash was obviously crying and screaming.
30:45
Speaker 2: And words like adult words are being thrown around. I
30:50
Speaker 2: only did I saw kids there, and I was like,
30:52
Speaker 2: I feel like this was a hard thing for the
30:55
Speaker 2: kids to have to watch.
30:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they know they were saying some crazy words.
31:01
Speaker 3: They were young each other so much. I guess like
31:04
Speaker 3: google slam pig one hundred percent one percent. Everyone is
31:10
Speaker 3: still unclear what it means, but uh yeah I wouldn't.
31:14
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't bring your kid to it filming over housewives,
31:17
Speaker 3: but I'm sure they loved it actually, Like they may
31:20
Speaker 3: not have played real trivia or one Audrey's gift card,
31:23
Speaker 3: but they were entertained.
31:25
Speaker 2: Has the show helped Audrey's.
31:28
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's slammed. It's just a slam pig right now.
31:33
Speaker 2: It's just taking it. It's taking it all.
31:35
Speaker 3: Yeah. The line is like out the door all the
31:39
Speaker 3: time now, which is you know. I always say like,
31:41
Speaker 3: I'm so happy for them, but all the same time,
31:43
Speaker 3: I'm so depressed because it just means another year without
31:45
Speaker 3: them moving to Virginia.
31:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got to support Audrey's big fan of it.
32:00
Speaker 2: People have been comparing the scene between Rosie and Kelsey
32:04
Speaker 2: at the house with a scene I'm unfamiliar with. But
32:07
Speaker 2: it's a table flipping scene.
32:09
Speaker 3: Yeah that's New Jersey.
32:11
Speaker 2: Yeah that existed years ago. So this is going down
32:14
Speaker 2: in history, the Rosie and Kelcey drama. It's standing the
32:17
Speaker 2: test of time. It could be talked about years from now,
32:21
Speaker 2: and I would honestly say that the scene at Audrey's
32:26
Speaker 2: was even more. I was even more into it as
32:30
Speaker 2: a viewer than I even was the house scene. The
32:31
Speaker 2: house scene was kind of shocking, and there was a
32:33
Speaker 2: lot of yelling over each other at Audrey's, with the
32:37
Speaker 2: other women responding, other women getting underneath tables, Rosy and
32:41
Speaker 2: Kelcey like still going at it, everybody trying to kind
32:45
Speaker 2: of like either play into it or some trying to
32:47
Speaker 2: calm it down. It was chaotic and it was amazing
32:51
Speaker 2: to watch in a public space.
32:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what made it a little more
32:55
Speaker 3: interesting is because you had spectators. But Kelsey and Rosie
32:59
Speaker 3: are listening to each other like they're just no one's
33:03
Speaker 3: listening to each other. So that's why I found it
33:05
Speaker 3: to be kind of frustrating, because it's just absolutely pointless.
33:09
Speaker 3: They're not even getting points across there. If they're calling
33:11
Speaker 3: to other names, they're not able to hear what the
33:14
Speaker 3: names are. So yeah, I mean we see we see
33:17
Speaker 3: Ashley lose it because she's overstimulated and she's just literally
33:20
Speaker 3: cannot believe they're fighting again. Yeah, and then Joeellen was
33:25
Speaker 3: like you're being embarrassing in your own place. It's like
33:28
Speaker 3: you guys are starting it, you are making me embarrassed,
33:31
Speaker 3: and therefore after yell like this.
33:33
Speaker 2: Yeah that was I don't really know what's happening there
33:36
Speaker 2: where people weren't responding to Ashley with more sensitivity or
33:41
Speaker 2: even like respect. It was her place. It's Jared and
33:45
Speaker 2: Ashley's coffee shop.
33:47
Speaker 3: And Liz goes, oh, you're so sensitive.
33:49
Speaker 2: It's like it's happening like yeah, she's just saying, please
33:53
Speaker 2: stop fighting in a business that we survive on. Yeah, like,
33:57
Speaker 2: I don't want this here. This wasn't my idea. I
34:00
Speaker 2: actually did it really at any point. I mean, Ashley
34:03
Speaker 2: was funny. It was like there was moments where it
34:06
Speaker 2: was like really funny. But I didn't ever feel like
34:09
Speaker 2: she overstepped.
34:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, she just I mean they probably were just shocked
34:16
Speaker 3: to see her voice go above a certain octave when
34:18
Speaker 3: she yelled. But her asking the girls mid like da dig,
34:26
Speaker 3: what is the name of the big blue beetle or
34:29
Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is in Rhode Island, It's like,
34:31
Speaker 3: excuse me, I don't mean to disrupt this. I was like,
34:35
Speaker 3: you are such a.
34:36
Speaker 2: Nerd or such a sweet nerd.
34:39
Speaker 3: Such a sweet little nerd.
34:41
Speaker 2: It's just Ashually. It was Ashley in her authentic self,
34:45
Speaker 2: and I think we've seen it so much this season
34:47
Speaker 2: where the Housewives does do a fantastic job at bringing
34:52
Speaker 2: out what I see as authenticity and genuineness. There's no
34:57
Speaker 2: put it on for the cameras or say the right
34:59
Speaker 2: thing at the right moment for the cameras. That hasn't
35:01
Speaker 2: existed during my one season of watching Housewives, and it's
35:05
Speaker 2: really enjoyable to watch. And as her sister Lauren, as
35:09
Speaker 2: we closed the chapter on the Audrey's conversation in the
35:11
Speaker 2: fight between Rosie and Kelsey, did you watch this scene
35:16
Speaker 2: and say that is my sister, like I see, I
35:19
Speaker 2: see her in this moment.
35:21
Speaker 3: Yes. I was watching it with Hunter and we looked
35:24
Speaker 3: at each other and we just laughed so hard because
35:26
Speaker 3: we're like, she cannot turn off her personality for anyone
35:30
Speaker 3: or anything. She will never fake it. It's cringey sometimes,
35:36
Speaker 3: but she can't hide anything in her face. That was
35:40
Speaker 3: so Ashley. Everything she did with was so Ashley. I
35:43
Speaker 3: haven't seen her yell like that before, but she must
35:45
Speaker 3: have been like absolutely losing it. She usually doesn't yell
35:49
Speaker 3: like that.
35:50
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful thing to see. Ashley continues to be herself,
35:54
Speaker 2: talking about her indigestion, talking about her issues, her nervousness.
36:00
Speaker 2: We love her for it. People are loving her for Lauren.
36:03
Speaker 2: We do see you kind of show up on FaceTime
36:05
Speaker 2: this episode talking with Ashley about toning her hair.
36:09
Speaker 3: Yes, you've got to tone that right out of your hair. Yeah.
36:13
Speaker 3: I mean that was like a very really small thing
36:15
Speaker 3: we filmed.
36:16
Speaker 2: You get excited though when you hear your voice on TV.
36:19
Speaker 2: I get a.
36:20
Speaker 3: Little worried because I don't remember what I say half
36:24
Speaker 3: the time. But but that was absolutely fine. I said,
36:30
Speaker 3: nothing embarrassing you've been. I don't know how Ashley watches
36:34
Speaker 3: these episodes back and being like, what are they gonna clip?
36:36
Speaker 3: What are they gonna use? I know, oh so I would.
36:39
Speaker 3: I would throw up every time. But she's she doesn't
36:44
Speaker 3: have a hard time watching herself now.
36:47
Speaker 2: She is uh, you know she But I think one
36:51
Speaker 2: of the reasons now is because she's getting so much
36:53
Speaker 2: love and she should. Her and Jared are a wonderful
36:56
Speaker 2: asset to this group. Speaking of hair, Lauren, we did
36:59
Speaker 2: see on your social media that you were working with
37:03
Speaker 2: are on Sharon Osborne recently.
37:06
Speaker 3: Yes, I did let go. It was great. She was
37:09
Speaker 3: so cool, the sweetest thing in the entire world. Just
37:14
Speaker 3: I gave her a blow out in her hotel room
37:16
Speaker 3: and then she went to I think like Congress the
37:21
Speaker 3: next day or something. She was just so sweet, like
37:24
Speaker 3: a dormal. She's like, I would love to work with
37:26
Speaker 3: you again whenever I'm back in DC. So sweet.
37:29
Speaker 2: Look at you, goodness gracious, just crushed over there. You
37:33
Speaker 2: got your own podcast. Now you're doing blowouts on celebs
37:38
Speaker 2: that are going to Congress. You're making it all work more.
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Speaker 3: You are crushing well, thank you so much.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Final thing that really happens that we want to
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Speaker 2: bring up is the Rosie is inviting everybody about Kelsey
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Speaker 2: to watch the Frank Sinatra performance that her is a
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Speaker 2: husband or boyfriend her husband husband Rich is putting on.
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Speaker 2: They get to show a nice little clip of Rich
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Speaker 2: as a singer back in the day, and Rosie thought
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Speaker 2: he was super cool. I found it hilarious and weird.
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Speaker 2: And it looks like he's chewing gum while also doing
38:15
Speaker 2: a video while he's acting like he's singing. It's a
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Speaker 2: watch and a half. You've got to make sure you
38:22
Speaker 2: go back and watch that. But on the car ride
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Speaker 2: to this performance is really where this episode ends, and
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Speaker 2: also I think we'll continue on for future episodes. Joelln Liz,
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Speaker 2: and Alisha on the car ride. One of the reasons
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Speaker 2: that Rosie is excited about this event is because there's
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Speaker 2: gonna be no space for them to talk, like to argue,
38:44
Speaker 2: there's no Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's what we thought Trivia was gonna be like too,
38:46
Speaker 3: look at that. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: But Joel and Liz and Alicia, all friends in some
38:52
Speaker 2: form and fashion, are on this car. They're kind of
38:55
Speaker 2: enjoying themselves with sharkooterie and drinks. But we get to
38:59
Speaker 2: bring up the Alisha being living on the streets conversation again.
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Speaker 3: I understand why Alicia was upset when Liz was like,
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Speaker 3: you were whatever, homeless, and she got upset. She like,
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Speaker 3: don't tell me basically about my life. And then Liz
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Speaker 3: is like, I'm saying this as out of the goodness
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Speaker 3: of my heart to not like make your mom look stupid,
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Speaker 3: your family looks stupid, you look like a liar. All that.
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Speaker 3: She's like, I'm literally covering your ass. But obviously Alicia's
39:29
Speaker 3: hurt and embarrassed and all these things. But then like
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Speaker 3: Liz goes kind of nuts and Joelin's trying to like
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Speaker 3: tame the fire, and that pisces Liz off even more.
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Speaker 2: Who go you said Liz goes nuts or Alicia goes nuts.
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Speaker 3: Liz goes nuts, I think.
39:43
Speaker 2: And it makes Alicia even more upset.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, no, Joellen is trying to calm Liz down
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Speaker 3: and just be like, stop talking, just let Alisha simmer now.
39:53
Speaker 3: And then Liz goes off, and especially with the teaser
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Speaker 3: from next week Joe Allen, and the teaser goes, why
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Speaker 3: did she say? She goes, I'll punch you in the
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Speaker 3: face or I'll knock you out, or like I will something,
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Speaker 3: and that is insane to me to say to Liz.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a very interest like I feel like
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Speaker 2: there's more to this story than what is being put
40:17
Speaker 2: out there. But I would be shocked because it feels
40:19
Speaker 2: like they're hiding nothing. But even if Alicia did say this,
40:23
Speaker 2: well she did say it, I get where Liz would
40:26
Speaker 2: be like, hey, not true. Let's not play into this narrative.
40:30
Speaker 3: They do semantics of like what is homeless, what is
40:33
Speaker 3: not homeless?
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Speaker 2: The whole thing, and it just feels like an argument
40:37
Speaker 2: that nobody's ever going to come to a conclusion on.
40:40
Speaker 3: I agree. I mean, maybe we should get Alicia's mom
40:42
Speaker 3: in and since they're all close and Liz has known
40:46
Speaker 3: her and her aunts, we should all sit down and
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Speaker 3: being like, would you consider as homeless?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
40:52
Speaker 3: And that could be the bottom line.
40:53
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, but I don't know if
40:56
Speaker 2: either of them would want to hear that, because I
40:58
Speaker 2: still don't know if they would agree with it where
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Speaker 2: it'd be. It just it feels like how Alisha remembers
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Speaker 2: her childhood and the narrative that she has, you know,
41:07
Speaker 2: continued to live within. And it also feels like Liz
41:12
Speaker 2: is very much defensive of something there to say, no,
41:16
Speaker 2: this isn't it now. She doesn't want lying to yeah exist.
41:21
Speaker 2: I'm sure that's one of the reasons. But they get
41:24
Speaker 2: really heated over it, and it just feels like it
41:26
Speaker 2: should never become personal. To me. This feels like Rosie
41:29
Speaker 2: and Kelsey is it's all personal. They don't like each other.
41:33
Speaker 2: This scenario, whatever is right or wrong or truth or not,
41:37
Speaker 2: seems weird to me that it would ever become personal
41:41
Speaker 2: because nobody's really being affected personally from this.
41:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I think. What I don't think they
41:49
Speaker 3: can say on the show because it would like take
41:53
Speaker 3: you out of the moment and break the fourth wall.
41:55
Speaker 3: Is basically like, if you say this, Alicia, that you
41:58
Speaker 3: were homeless, all these trolls are going to come out
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Speaker 3: find out that you actually never were homeless, and you're
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Speaker 3: gonna look stupid and I'm saving in your ass. I
42:06
Speaker 3: think that's really what it is, But they can't show
42:09
Speaker 3: that aspect.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they can't show it, but you'd think Liz would
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Speaker 2: say it and then Alicia would understand. But maybe Alicia
42:17
Speaker 2: is still like no, but I'm not lying.
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Speaker 3: I think she's pushed beyond to this point that she
42:21
Speaker 3: won't take that. Yeah.
42:23
Speaker 2: Oh, kind of a weird storyline. Honestly, for me, it
42:26
Speaker 2: feels like it's misplaced amongst this whole season.
42:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I don't know, And it looks like
42:33
Speaker 3: Joellen is gonna have to fight for Alicia. I guess.
42:41
Speaker 3: I don't know what what's gonna happen at not Elvis Knight.
42:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that does bring us into next week's episode.
42:50
Speaker 2: We get to see a sneak peak of Rich's performance
42:54
Speaker 2: Alicia's crying. Liz does leave the table and outside after
42:59
Speaker 2: Liz Lee's a take we see what you're talking about?
43:01
Speaker 2: Where Joellen gets that out of my face and Joel
43:04
Speaker 2: and says, what did I do? It does seem to
43:08
Speaker 2: get very heated, Lauren, Joe.
43:10
Speaker 3: She says, I'll beat the shit out of you. It's insane.
43:13
Speaker 2: It's getting physical. Yes, physical threats are being thrown out
43:18
Speaker 2: there now. The fight continues on throughout the whole night,
43:22
Speaker 2: so we're not getting a sweet, peaceful Frank Sinatra performance.
43:27
Speaker 2: Somehow the show has found a way to even make
43:30
Speaker 2: Frank Sinatra not just enjoyable, yeah, easy listening.
43:36
Speaker 3: I don't know who I mean. I love that people
43:38
Speaker 3: love this show. I don't know who can turn this
43:40
Speaker 3: on at the end of the night to wind down.
43:43
Speaker 2: No, yes, I have to watch at midday. It fires me.
43:45
Speaker 3: Up, I know. I just I appreciate that people love it.
43:47
Speaker 3: It's just so stressful.
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Speaker 2: I would agree. I've been stressed through this whole thing.
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Speaker 3: All right.
43:52
Speaker 2: Well that's what we got for this episode of the
43:56
Speaker 2: Real Housewives of Rhode Island, Lauren. We get to see
44:00
Speaker 2: not enough of Ashley, but just enough to see her
44:04
Speaker 2: thrive in her own, peaceful, loving way. For next week's episode,
44:09
Speaker 2: it really doesn't seem like Ashley is a part of it,
44:12
Speaker 2: because all the previews just show this bickering continue.
44:16
Speaker 3: We'll get a lot of great facial expressions from Ashley,
44:19
Speaker 3: that's what we can guarantee.
44:21
Speaker 2: And a little less like ownership over the event because
44:25
Speaker 2: it's not her space. So maybe she'll just sit back
44:27
Speaker 2: and watch and listen, which would probably feel like a
44:30
Speaker 2: very safe place for us.
44:31
Speaker 3: And I'm happy to get out of the Kelsey drama for.
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Speaker 2: A little bit, I would agree. Hey, that's all we
44:37
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44:40
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44:43
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44:47
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44:52
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44:57
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45:01
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