Latest / Best of Business / Brad Olsen: Infometrics Principal Economist ahead of tomorrow's OCR update (1)
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- 0:09Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks. The'd be
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- 0:17Speaker 2: Obviously, the countdown is on right now for the most
- 0:19Speaker 2: highly anticipated Reserve Bank decision in quite some time. Economists
- 0:23Speaker 2: are pretty divided on whether the Bank's going to cut
- 0:25Speaker 2: or hold the OCR At two tomorrow afternoon, Infametric's principle
- 0:29Speaker 2: economist Brad Olsen is with me, Hey, Brad, good evening.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Let me get this right. You don't think they're going
- 0:34Speaker 2: to cut, but you think they should cut. Is that right?
- 0:37Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean that's broadly in the right ballpark. I
- 0:39Speaker 3: mean we think that, you know, the economy is clearly
- 0:42Speaker 3: weaker on most of the data that we would have
- 0:46Speaker 3: come through in the economy the last couple of months,
- 0:48Speaker 3: we would probably say enough is enough and it's time
- 0:50Speaker 3: to cut. But we don't think they will, and in
- 0:52Speaker 3: a sense almost don't think they can, given how much
- 0:56Speaker 3: of a you tune they're taking. But what I think
- 0:57Speaker 3: they will do, and certainly what I think they should
- 0:59Speaker 3: do tomorrow given all of that, is they need to
- 1:02Speaker 3: make it pretty clear that they got it wrong and
- 1:04Speaker 3: may they were completely and utterly wrong. They need to
- 1:06Speaker 3: shift the dial, and they need to start so of
- 1:08Speaker 3: setting that the groundwork for making a move before the
- 1:12Speaker 3: end of the year. I don't know if that's October
- 1:14Speaker 3: or if it's November. Probably almost should be October, but
- 1:18Speaker 3: they've had some communication issues in recent times. I mean,
- 1:21Speaker 3: it is a little bit bizarre, right that, you know,
- 1:23Speaker 3: economists talk about whether or not a decision is live
- 1:26Speaker 3: or not could we get a change. You go back
- 1:28Speaker 3: to where they were in May, and honestly, there was
- 1:30Speaker 3: no hope of a change up or down in a
- 1:32Speaker 3: sense for another year. Now we're talking about it like
- 1:35Speaker 3: it could be, you know, locked in the markets of price.
- 1:38Speaker 3: I think sort of a seventy percent expectation that you
- 1:40Speaker 3: could see the official cash rate fall tomorrow. Economists seem
- 1:43Speaker 3: to be a little bit more circumspect about that. But
- 1:46Speaker 3: long story short, the economy is in a darker place,
- 1:49Speaker 3: but the Reserve Bank backs it south into a corner,
- 1:51Speaker 3: and so sort of all bets are off at the moment.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Okay, so let me get this right. Tomorrow is a
- 1:56Speaker 2: monetary policy statement where they actually give a press conference.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so they give it the whole kid in
- 2:02Speaker 3: kaboodle of November. Yes, that's correct, but not October.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So listend, they can't they literally cannot hold the country
- 2:11Speaker 2: in this nonsense for six weeks extra or whatever it is,
- 2:14Speaker 2: because they're not holding a press conference. So is it possible,
- 2:16Speaker 2: which is what the discussion has been about, why they
- 2:18Speaker 2: can't cut in October because then they can't hold a
- 2:20Speaker 2: press conference. They just issue a press release. Can they
- 2:23Speaker 2: give a full press conference tomorrow where they set it
- 2:26Speaker 2: up beautifully for October and then just do it via
- 2:28Speaker 2: a press release in October? Is that possible?
- 2:31Speaker 3: I think it is possible, and you know, in our
- 2:33Speaker 3: minds we are starting to wonder if that might be
- 2:36Speaker 3: the better move. Because you're right. I mean, so tomorrow
- 2:38Speaker 3: you get at two pm, you get the decision, but
- 2:40Speaker 3: you also get everything. You get all of the new
- 2:42Speaker 3: forecasts from the Reserve Bank. You get pages and pages
- 2:45Speaker 3: of analysis and understanding not only of what they think
- 2:48Speaker 3: their official cash rate could be over the next sort
- 2:50Speaker 3: of two years, but also what they think happens to
- 2:52Speaker 3: inflation in the economy and similar. An hour later, at
- 2:55Speaker 3: three pm, the Governor will be standing out there two media,
- 2:58Speaker 3: speaking for nearly an hour on all of those views,
- 3:01Speaker 3: and then like you say, in October, you get like
- 3:03Speaker 3: a page or two, and so I think you're right,
- 3:05Speaker 3: this is where the setup needs to happen. Now if
- 3:08Speaker 3: they don't do that, and I think, you know, we're
- 3:10Speaker 3: still holding our breath at informetrics, we're not going to
- 3:12Speaker 3: make a change until tomorrow afternoon, when we understand we're
- 3:15Speaker 3: on earth. The bank has landed on all of this,
- 3:16Speaker 3: because how many times have they done this? It flip
- 3:19Speaker 3: flopp between sort of hot and cold and hot and cold,
- 3:21Speaker 3: hot and cold. So we are really sort of trying
- 3:24Speaker 3: to figure out what happens there. But once we know,
- 3:27Speaker 3: that's when I think we'll make a bit of a
- 3:29Speaker 3: stronger call on what comes through. Regardless, I think they
- 3:32Speaker 3: need to acknowledge tomorrow that they got it wrong at
- 3:34Speaker 3: some point along the way, but it is important. I
- 3:37Speaker 3: think that if they want to go in October, they
- 3:39Speaker 3: need to set that ground work up. Otherwise we might
- 3:42Speaker 3: well come through to November and all of a sudden
- 3:44Speaker 3: they have to go with a fifty basis point cup
- 3:46Speaker 3: because all of a sudden things have moved sort of
- 3:48Speaker 3: too much.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Further on, Brad, you make some excellent points, mate, Thank
- 3:52Speaker 2: you so much, really, looking forward to talking to you
- 3:53Speaker 2: again about this. Brad Olson infometrics principle economist. Put that
- 3:56Speaker 2: in your diary for two o'clock tomorrow and you can
- 3:57Speaker 2: tune in and see rat Adri and go particularly red
- 3:59Speaker 2: in the face. He's naturally quite florid, but I think
- 4:04Speaker 2: when the journalists start giving him a hard time tomorrow,
- 4:06Speaker 2: he's going to be going to He's going to read
- 4:08Speaker 2: write up, is going to go full.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Tomato on us.
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