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Free DaJon Love: The NFL Scammer Story + Joy Taylor Defends the $5K Debate · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: I have been living a certain way. We haven't even
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  Speaker 1: talked about my travel. I went to five new countries
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  Speaker 1: this year. It was a big birthday week.
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  Speaker 2: I was turned up, let me tell you. I saw.
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  Speaker 1: Let me give you a tip when you're getting caught
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  Speaker 1: in a lie. Don't ask dumb questions.
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  Speaker 2: Mr. Deja Love. Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 2: Just before we get started, I have something for you.
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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to Two Personal. I'm Joy Taylor and
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  Speaker 1: this is Haley. Thanks so much for joining us. Make
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  Speaker 1: sure you hit subscribe and follow us on social at
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  Speaker 1: Two Personal Show. Speaking of social, we went a little
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  Speaker 1: viral last week.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even think it was a big hot take.
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  Speaker 2: You got some shit to get off your chest? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: not really.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I've been getting off my chest with
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  Speaker 1: everybody all weekend. Were they coming up to you?
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  Speaker 2: They was mad. Well, they was really mad at you.
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  Speaker 2: They were mad at me.
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  Speaker 1: Hailey was up. Big ones. Big ones.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we fuck with Hailey. They was mad.
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  Speaker 2: People don't understand, though.
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  Speaker 1: They don't understand. Well, listen, in all fairness, I understand
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  Speaker 1: how the podcast game works. I understand we're going to
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  Speaker 1: post a clip. You're not going to watch the whole episode,
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  Speaker 1: although I do appreciate those of you that want to
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  Speaker 1: do your full research.
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  Speaker 2: Period.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to go off of what was in
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  Speaker 1: the clip. Now, if you listen to the clip, active listening,
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  Speaker 1: listening comprehension, I said, this does not apply to me
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  Speaker 1: at the end.
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  Speaker 2: You did.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a candidate for this conversation. I'll go over
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  Speaker 1: a couple things. First of all, shout out to Barbie
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  Speaker 1: from 520 because this is where this whole conversation came
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  Speaker 1: from because they had it first and I just responded
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  Speaker 1: on a comment to her. And that's why we did
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  Speaker 1: it in the first place. Second, I am not a
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  Speaker 1: candidate for this. At all.
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  Speaker 2: I said that. I mean that.
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  Speaker 1: This is a hypothetical conversation. That means it's not really happening.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a way y'all are so mad about something
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  Speaker 1: that is hypothetical? It's crazy to me. But maybe you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the word hypothetical means.
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  Speaker 2: And they just don't have the 5K to do. So
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  Speaker 2: it's okay. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's a couple things here. One, because
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  Speaker 1: the biggest thing that kept happening to me when people
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  Speaker 1: came up to me this weekend was like, Joy, why
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about this like, $ 5, 000 isn't enough for
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  Speaker 1: the average woman. And my response to every single one
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  Speaker 1: of them was, why would I be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: average woman? With all due respect, sis and sir, I
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  Speaker 1: am not the average woman. And I... am always speaking
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  Speaker 1: about my experience joy taylor born pittsburgh pennsylvania 117 87 that's.
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  Speaker 2: Who the fuck i'm talking about i'm not talking about.
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  Speaker 1: You in your life i don't know you in your
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  Speaker 1: life i am 39 fucking years old i've been working
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  Speaker 1: since i'm 18 i have multiple businesses i have a
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  Speaker 1: whole staff of people i pay i sent an 11
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  Speaker 1: 000 wire this morning in the car on the way
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  Speaker 1: here um I had to send someone in my family
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  Speaker 1: $ 5, 000 a few days ago for a bill that they
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  Speaker 1: had come up. We not living the same life. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean this disrespectfully. Worry about the bills that
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  Speaker 1: you got. I have never in my life financially relied
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  Speaker 1: on a man. Ever. And I never will. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: built like that. I need to have my own money.
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  Speaker 1: I do not answer to people. I do not have
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  Speaker 1: a husband. I do not have children. Both of those
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  Speaker 1: things are choices that I have made. And I still
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  Speaker 1: have all these bills. I have signed multiple multi-year contracts
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  Speaker 1: with everyone. a television network.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even understand that.
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  Speaker 1: And that is just one of my, that was just
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  Speaker 1: one of my jobs. I also had a podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: had a radio show. I had other shows that I hosted.
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  Speaker 1: I've had endorsement deals. You are not living my life. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not talking shit. This is the reality
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  Speaker 1: of it. It's not about talking shit. I am living
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  Speaker 1: differently at my big ass age. I'm about to be
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  Speaker 1: 40 fucking years old. If I say $ 5, 000 is not
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  Speaker 1: enough for me, it's because it'd be a fucking pay cut.
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  Speaker 2: Literally. And the point is, if they wanted you to
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  Speaker 2: not work. So if you don't want me to work.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want me to work. That means I'm giving
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  Speaker 1: up multiple businesses and my career. I take care of
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  Speaker 1: my mother. I take care of other people in my family.
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  Speaker 1: I have been living a certain way. We haven't even
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  Speaker 1: talked about my travel.
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  Speaker 2: I went to five new countries this year. What the fuck?
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  Speaker 1: You think I'm sitting by the bathroom in the back
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  Speaker 1: to get there?
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  Speaker 2: No disrespect. Travel how you want to.
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  Speaker 1: But my back, my bathroom in.
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  Speaker 2: The back is crazy. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Worry about the things that you stay in your lane.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out LaVar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I'm... This is... The whole thing is, like,
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  Speaker 1: to the natural girlies, I love y'all. I love it
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  Speaker 1: for you. I love how you show up in your
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  Speaker 1: natural beauty and you believe in that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: That's for you. For me, I'm not a natural girly.
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  Speaker 1: And I do not pretend to be.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Am I a beautiful person?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you think so. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if you think so. I think so. But I still...
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  Speaker 1: do have a morning routine that is not juices and berries. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's not changing. It's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like we just not living the same life and that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like I worked really hard for this, despite what you
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  Speaker 1: may have heard. And it's a, it's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: work and I'd be stressed out because I have different
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  Speaker 1: money problems than you have.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's why you get your weekly massage at the spa.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently I'm supposed to back on that as well. walking
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  Speaker 2: around with a high ass shoulders and to wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: And to wrap it up the men who are living
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  Speaker 1: the lives that you want to live and the men
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  Speaker 1: who actually do pay these kind of bills for women
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  Speaker 1: are on my side period they hit my phone like.
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  Speaker 2: What'd they say 5k is ridiculous for you What's their number? Shit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, one tried to negotiate 10 and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I know you fucking playing. And the other one was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: we would start talking at 20.
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  Speaker 2: And that's like, that's not even including shopping. Yeah. See,
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  Speaker 2: they get it. They know. They also wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I want y'all to know too. I
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  Speaker 1: am not hunting.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about this. I don't ever.
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  Speaker 2: If a man came to.
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  Speaker 1: Me like, I will retire you and you have a
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  Speaker 1: black card, you can spend whatever you want. I still
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. It's not how I'm wired. I am
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  Speaker 1: not looking for someone to pay my bills. That is
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  Speaker 1: not what I'm trying to do. So not only is
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  Speaker 1: this a hypothetical situation that will never happen and has
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  Speaker 1: never happened, I'm not looking for it. And all of these,
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  Speaker 1: this bitching, duh, you couldn't pay my fucking electric bill.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to know what my electricity bill is.
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  Speaker 1: That shit would set you back. I'll be pulling out
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  Speaker 1: personal loans for that.
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  Speaker 2: How much did you pay for that smoothie?
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  Speaker 1: $ 25.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, I rushed it here, so extra $ 5. Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody buying no $ 30 smoothie. $ 30? Hey, listen.
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  Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber put her foot in this, okay? This shit
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  Speaker 1: is crazy. I don't know. What the fuck? She put
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  Speaker 1: some Bieber juice in here.
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  Speaker 2: No, they can barely afford Jamba juice, so. Let alone heroin.
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  Speaker 1: This shit is unbelievable. I blame Kev. Kev on stage,
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  Speaker 1: this is Kev's fault. I had fought it my whole
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  Speaker 1: entire existence here in LA, and he talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: On a show. And then he was just talking about
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  Speaker 1: how good it was and how to have it.
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  Speaker 2: He was right. Fire, huh?
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  Speaker 1: Our good sis did her thing with that one. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: I only do it once a week.
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  Speaker 2: You know? So don't get crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Also, I didn't say $ 5, 000 a month. I said $ 1, 700
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  Speaker 1: and that was light.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't even add everything. Anyway, $ 5, 000 is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: I love it for you, sis. If he gives you $ 5, 000,
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  Speaker 1: make it work, and I do you. But you do
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  Speaker 1: not have to pay my bills. None of you men
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  Speaker 1: out there bitching about it ever have to worry about
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  Speaker 1: paying for a single fucking thing from me.
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  Speaker 2: You'll never get the chance.
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  Speaker 1: You won't get the chance to buy me fucking coffee,
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  Speaker 1: let alone pay for my life and then give me
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  Speaker 1: $ 5, 000 to frolic with.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, the internet is not a real place.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a real place. But it was fun. It
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  Speaker 1: was fun fodder. You're welcome to all the podcasts that
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  Speaker 1: then used it. But I have to give credit to
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  Speaker 1: Barbie and 520 first because they did it first. So
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it wasn't interesting. I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: like a throwaway conversation when we were having it.
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  Speaker 2: It was fun. It was funny. It was fun. It
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  Speaker 2: was light. They were serious. They were so serious. Everyone
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  Speaker 2: think pieces about it.
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  Speaker 1: Also, y'all talking about the trainer's not doing his best.
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  Speaker 1: my trainer is one of the best trainers in the world, okay?
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  Speaker 1: I just don't fucking listen to him, okay?
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  Speaker 2: He don't want her drinking it. He don't want me
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  Speaker 2: drinking it.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be pissed he sees me drinking this, okay?
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  Speaker 2: I just don't listen to him. You can't blame him.
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  Speaker 1: He sculpts the best bodies in the world, all right?
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  Speaker 1: And you don't gotta worry about my body. My body
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  Speaker 1: is healthy, and plenty of people wanna fuck it, all right?
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  Speaker 1: So don't worry about... Don't worry about me and my holes.
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  Speaker 1: They're fine, okay? They might be cobweb currently, but.
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  Speaker 2: Were they? Yeah. So, but it's, we're good.
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  Speaker 1: We're good over here.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: My little potato sack body is doing fine.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. fired today, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: Me and my rolls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: They hate, the internet hates my ass.
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  Speaker 2: They hate my butt. They do. They hate it. Do
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  Speaker 2: you think it's hilarious? They do. She said they do.
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  Speaker 2: They hate my butt. I think I have a completely
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  Speaker 2: normal butt. It really is.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's not, obviously it's not big, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: like totally flat.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the people that like, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a back and then it's like a pinch. A pinch?
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  Speaker 2: Like they just, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I do be clenching.
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  Speaker 2: It's like their back.
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  Speaker 1: I do be clenching.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like they got that little southbound little cheek
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  Speaker 2: on the.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody isn't shapely. Like, I've never had a butt.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a butt once in my life. It was
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  Speaker 1: when I was at my heaviest. And then I had
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  Speaker 1: to give it up because I just wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: slimmer in other places. But, yeah, they hate my butt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that deep. They got to chill out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it's that deep for them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody in the world who the
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  Speaker 1: Internet is actively campaigning to get a BBL.
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  Speaker 2: That's wild. Like, they want me to have a BBL.
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  Speaker 2: That's not just a hop, skip, and a jump down
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  Speaker 2: the street and, you know, on a dentist appointment. They
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  Speaker 2: think it is. They clearly don't know. Well, they also
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the fuck makeup costs. Like, they don't
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  Speaker 2: know anything. Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: The other part of this, like, just to wrap this up,
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  Speaker 1: I thought about it a lot, obviously, because I was
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  Speaker 1: getting harassed with this conversation from everyone that I know
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. There is a deeper patriarchal conversation to be
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  Speaker 1: had about this. And I talked about it on my
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  Speaker 1: group chat. My girlfriends all obviously agree with me because
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  Speaker 1: they spend a similar amount, if not more, on their
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  Speaker 1: monthly maintenance as well because they're all women who make
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  Speaker 1: similar money to me. So then they can spend what
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  Speaker 1: they want to spend.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, the Beijing haircuts don't cost the same. They don't.
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  Speaker 2: They don't. They don't.
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  Speaker 1: But the bigger point was we as women protect men
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  Speaker 1: from so much as to just not to not like
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  Speaker 1: disrupt their psyche that they do not have any comprehension
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  Speaker 1: of what not the natural girlies. We know y'all are
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  Speaker 1: waking up like that. But the rest of us who
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  Speaker 1: have to, you know, pluck an eyebrow and such. They
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what we go through to just look good. normal,
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  Speaker 1: not glam, not done up, just normal. Just to not
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  Speaker 1: have bags under our eyes, just to not have our
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: skin be messed up, just to have our hair done,
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  Speaker 1: just to have our nails looking nice. Like they have
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  Speaker 1: no concept of what anything costs when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 1: And it's because women protect men from that. They, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my girl just naturally looks like this. No, the fuck
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't. I love it when they're, when they do the,
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  Speaker 1: like that model bit, like, oh, like she just looks
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  Speaker 1: this natural makeup. That is a, makeup artist who got
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  Speaker 1: paid $ 5, 000 to do that makeup. Then that photo was retouched.
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  Speaker 1: That is a 19-year-old. Like, what are you fucking talking
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  Speaker 1: about natural makeup? The whole thing is a patriarchal idea
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  Speaker 1: that is a much bigger nuanced conversation, which we'll have
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  Speaker 1: another time because I know y'all can't spell patriarchy, so
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it with you. But
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  Speaker 1: I did think about it. It's another burden that women carry.
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  Speaker 1: And then one of my girlfriends was telling me a
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  Speaker 1: story about her friend who is taking some time off
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  Speaker 1: work to go to school. And so she's with her
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  Speaker 1: man and her man doesn't want to pay for any
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  Speaker 1: of her maintenance. He doesn't think of it as bills.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, like, so they're having to argue because she
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  Speaker 1: has to ask him for money.
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  Speaker 2: He just want her bummy in the house. Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: I can't just like the thought.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe can I have some money?
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather eat rocks. I'd rather drag my balls over coals.
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  Speaker 2: Balls over coals?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm, no way. It's just not
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  Speaker 1: for me. It's not for me. It's not for me.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, again, whatever you do in your journey is
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  Speaker 1: your journey and your choice and I respect it. It
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't have anything to do with me. So don't
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  Speaker 1: take offense if I say that that's not enough money
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  Speaker 1: for me. It's not enough money for me. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it's enough money for you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's OK.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not like I'm not a billionaire. I'm not
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: bragging like on some whole other shit. This is we
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  Speaker 1: just live different lives and everyone needs to stop conflating
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  Speaker 1: everyone's experience to being the same thing. Right.
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  Speaker 2: It's OK. It's OK for people to have different lives.
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  Speaker 2: It is OK. Our lives are different.
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  Speaker 1: Somehow we managed to still spend money on eyebrows. My
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: eyebrows need done right now. My eyebrows and lashes are struggling.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: My eyelashes are throwing up gang signs. Don't talk about
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  Speaker 1: my eyelashes. They're getting done later today.
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  Speaker 2: They look fine.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get an appointment.
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  Speaker 2: Lashes. How much do you think lashes cost?
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Lashes are very fucking expensive. Lashes are absolutely a luxury.
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  Speaker 1: That is not something you have to pay for. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it makes more sense to use the strips.
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  Speaker 2: When I was doing the show.
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  Speaker 1: and getting makeup five days a week, I would just
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  Speaker 1: take them off and just get the strips every day
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: because they rip them off anyway and, like, you're getting
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  Speaker 1: makeup on all of them. This is all shit men
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  Speaker 1: don't know nothing about, which is why you should keep
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: your fucking mouth shut about women's business. If you have
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: never sat down and had an eyelash check in your
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: face for an hour and a half, don't talk to
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  Speaker 1: me about eyelashes, okay?
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  Speaker 2: It's not an enjoyable appointment. It's not.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But the point is, I can get with the lash girlies, though.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't have naturally long lashes. My lashes are
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  Speaker 1: very short. I look like a wombat.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I get when women are like, I'm not paying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not paying, and I am not using that time
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  Speaker 1: to get lashes done. Like, that I respect. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But... Well, they weren't the ones making comments, so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these pick-me-ass bitches.
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  Speaker 2: I only send.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I forgot. I have one more thing.
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  Speaker 1: The good thing that has come out of this.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta look for the positives in life, right? The
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: good thing that has come out of this is all
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the men who don't like spending money on women... And
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: all the women who want to be chosen by men
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: who don't like spending money on women because y'all don't
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: need that much money for your upkeep, go to the
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: comments section and find each other. I'm bringing people together.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: It's one of my skills in life is bringing people together,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: introducing new people to each other. I feel like I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: could almost do a dating show.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You got to put matchmaker on your bio. Matchmaker.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Okay. What else we got today?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Um, Mr. Deja Love. Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Just before we get started, I have something for you.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: For me?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Well, to show you. Okay. So I came prepared. I'm
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: going to put my jersey on. Shout out to Dion.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Because if he could do it, I could do it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You could do it. Why can't I?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: You could do it. You could do it. You're a
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: third round undrafted.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Isn't that what he said?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: He's a third round undrafted.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Yes. You too are a 49er.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: You know what? Period. And it goes with the set.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Bang, bang, Niner gang.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I just need my helmet.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: You need a helmet.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: On the beach. Listen, the helmet is a main character
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: to the story.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, tell, if you haven't, if you're not habitually online,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: you don't know the story, give a quick overview.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Mr. Dajon Love. Okay. Okay. Posed as a San Francisco
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: 49ers wide receiver. Met women through dating apps, social media.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: At least 26 women that we know of. He scammed
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: out of $ 1. 3 million. Okay. Not only was he an
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: NFL player, he was a Swiss millionaire. Had a very
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: wealthy family. Big in real estate. Always closing on a property. Okay.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: The FBI believes there could be many more victims. Victims?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: He posted his routes.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: His.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: And then he was... First of all... No, no, no, no.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: His.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: So he was.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: he was arrested for wire fraud.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah and he claimed to have um like a fake
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: investment yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So it was it was like an investment scheme first
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: of all free him well free him free him he
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: to me he did nothing wrong first of all.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: First of all i gotta get my scam and he
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: works for.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: That money you see him running around he was sweating
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Blood sweat and tears went into that money. He earned it.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: There was not an ounce of athleticism. A thespian. Okay.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: In those videos. Did you see it?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Listen, there's so much to break down here. But the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: point is, free him. And here's why. If you are
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a woman who is sending a man money on the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: internet that you don't know... This isn't your family.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: This isn't your child.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: This isn't your physical man that you have physically been dating.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You're not a victim.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: But why are you getting his routing number without checking
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the roster, one? Listen, this is why women in sports matter, okay?
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Y'all should have came to me.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Listen, I've had friends when I was younger, when we
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: was in college, even like if they were just dating
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: a little youngin'. You know, he plays at such and
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: such college. Oh, I immediately. What school? Is he red shirting? Like, what's... Immediate.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Red shirting is crazy. I mean, we gotta know. Red
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: shirting's crazy.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: There's some.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: My favorite part was, there's so much to break down here.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: There's so many things.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: My favorite part is him, is the photo of him
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: getting out of the car in the full gear holding
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the helmet.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: So good!
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: All right, let me give you guys some tips, all right?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Just for future victims, all right? Which is not a
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: word I would use to describe this situation, okay?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Investors. Sometimes your investment fails. Sometimes it doesn't work. That's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what investment is. It's a little bit of a risk.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: And you took it. This is a huge risk. Get
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: him out of jail.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He doesn't belong there. He needs to be on a stage.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He's not going to thrive in jail.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: He's not going to do well in jail, no. He
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: needs to be on a stage. The government needs to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: study him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. His Niners chain and the barbershop.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: And women are really underrepresented in the scammer department.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: What you mean?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: We need more women scammers. Yeah. Women should scam more.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I'm pro-women scamming.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Karisha's been trying to tell us.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I support women's wrongs and they need to be scamming more.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Listen to Karisha. Boosting bitches where y'all at?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You saw I put that on my recent post. Spin it, sheet. Listen,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I love this story. It has provided me with a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: gaggle of giggles since it's come up. It seems like
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: he's a bit of a more nefarious character as we
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: get into who he really is. Perhaps he's committed some
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: other crimes, which I'm not fully aware of because there's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: so much flying around on the Internet. Yeah. But as
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: far as him scamming these women, they absolutely deserve to
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: lose their money. You shouldn't have money. If you are
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: sending a stranger on the Internet money, thousands of dollars, $ 80, 000,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I think the one woman spent it. You're a fucking goofy.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You should be taken advantage of. You need to read
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: more books. Okay. And you only did this because you
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: thought an NFL player was sliding in your DMs.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Literally. Literally. Welcome to the club, sis. And it's the video.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Now you down horrendous. City girl's down horrendous.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: He loved a good video message.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: What the fuck is he talking about?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: The helmet, the helmet.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: The flash of the helmet. What? Girls, girls. Listen, listen.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: I can't really pick a favorite moment. But, because they're
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: all just so spectacularly horrible. But girls, let me, girls
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and ladies. All right, let me just give you this tip.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: A man who plays for any professional organization is never
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: wearing team gear outside of the facility. Ever.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: They have people.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: That are called equipment managers. They will have the helmets.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: You don't take your helmet home. This isn't peewee, okay?
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: You leave your helmets at the facility.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He ain't got that motherfucking helmet. He bought that shit
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: off motherfucking Amazon. I cannot.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Where'd he get that little cap? This is crazy. He's insane.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: He needed to focus more on growing that mustache out
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to the end of his lips, because....
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: I'm so mad at these women. What is wrong with you?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Listen, not even on any gender role shit. Don't send
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: people on the internet money. Don't do that. Don't do that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Don't do that. Do not do that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Do not do that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean? This is basic shit.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck are you sending someone you don't know
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: on the internet money? Because what you thought was, you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: thought you got picked by an NFL player. Forget the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: fact that he's not on any roster, which Google is free.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Okay. She sent him $ 11, 000 because he showed her over
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: $ 125 million.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yes. I don't know. I don't think he did meet
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: any of them in person.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think he did. He video texts. This is
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like some real catfish shit.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see any confirmation of meeting in person.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Her excuse was, well, he showed me all these investment
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: accounts with all these... Baby.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: No, bitch.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: He's a player and a... There's no excuse. A Swiss millionaire?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: You wanted to feel like you were being courted by
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: an NFL player. And he knew that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He said he's a Swiss millionaire.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: He said he comes from a very wealthy... He was
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: born in Switzerland. Switzerland. Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You haven't seen... What do you mean? You haven't seen
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Dajon Love? Dajon. You didn't see the route.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Listen, the route's the least of my concerns.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Pull the route up.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: That fucking noodle arm. Forget the fact that he doesn't have...
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have... There's no position on the roster whose
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: body he would have. Kickers have better bodies. Listen. Not
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a muscle to be found.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to post my route.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: That's the only part... That's the only part of the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: scam that upset me is like, sir, you've fully committed
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to this. You got to lift some weights.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: You got to do something.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You got to do something.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You're not fully committed then.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Why is he doing a full workout with the helmet
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: on at Santa Monica? He's a black man from Switzerland
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: from a wealthy family named Dajon.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And he said his family was the wealthiest.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: His family was one of the wealthiest families in Switzerland. Yes.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: He owns a $ 20 million home in... L.A., a $ 10
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: million home on South Beach in Miami, which, where.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Is your home on South Beach? And he always conveniently
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: just closed on a home in his video message.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: He bought something else. I think he said he has
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: a home in Malibu. I love how he flashed the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: helmet and then the roof went back on the car.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I mean, listen. He had help. He sold.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm telling you, this man set up an entire
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: play for these women.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Like, he had... He had a payroll of scammers. Yeah,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: he had extras.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I just.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I think he should be... If he did some other
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: illegal activity, then he should be in jail. But as
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: far as this scam, free him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So you don't think it should be illegal to fall
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: for a scam? Or you believe a lie? He didn't
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: do anything wrong.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: The biggest... scammer that has ever existed is the president
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of the united states right.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Now i mean i can't i mean i can't argue.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: That we are being run by a scammer.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We're being scammed.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: He's the biggest fucking scammer ever he's like openly inside
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: trading And it's made like $ 2 billion off of it.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: They're trying to colonize Albania. These motherfuckers are straight up scammers.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I don't get, no, free all scammers, actually.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Free the scammers.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: If you are breaking into someone's account and stealing their money,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: if you are stealing someone's identity, if you are going
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: to like big lengths to threaten people's families- I've been
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: scammed because someone said that my mother was kidnapped.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I never told you the story?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, what are you talking about?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Huh?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I know you remember it. Wait, when did this happen?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I was in Italy a couple years ago and a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: scammer called and said that he had kidnapped my mother and.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: He got her at gunpoint. Did you hear her voice?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: He played a woman crying in the background, yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And what did he ask you for? Money.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Money?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And what did you immediately do? I immediately freaked the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: fuck out. Like, this is not a game.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie's mother was kidnapped. And this was prior to that. Like,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: these things happen.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but I did not know this story.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought I told you the story. Yeah, I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: was horrified. I was hysterical. And listen, I made some calls.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Okay? That's what I'm like, what did you do next?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: My immediate thought was to make some fucking calls. Somebody
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was going to give a....
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Did you find out before you sent anything?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: No.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So you sent money? I did, yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: But.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: And then what happened?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: My mother... She called you. Fuck that person, right?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: It's a whole thing.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But that person should die. That person should be kicked
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: into a pit.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So those scammers deserve to be in jail. Correct.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And... Because you're actually actively hunting for people. Or people
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: that scam old people. Like, fuck y'all. All right? But
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: this man.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Free him, right? Free him.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: This man put in work, time, energy, sweat.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Sweat equity is what he did on that beach.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: That's what I saw.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I saw effort. And the reason I'll tell you why
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't have sympathy for these women, because again, this
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: is that pick me bullshit. You and I have to
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: hold the girlies accountable as well. All right. Everyone thinks
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I hate men. But I have to hold the girlies
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: accountable in this spot. You only did this because you
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thought you were being chosen by an NFL player. And
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: some of you were even dumb enough to brag about it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Never settle, girls. Look at you now. I'm hella mad
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: at them. They're ridiculous. They piss me off. Ridiculous. They
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: piss me off.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: There's so much nuance to it that obviously anyone around
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: sports would know, like, hey, this is obviously a scammer, right? Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But the more important thing is that easiest way to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: get you up out your money is to tell you
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that I am an NFL player and I'm interested in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you sorry babe you gotta get them brain cells connecting
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: with each other alright there's so many red flags you
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: gotta take a different way to work it's an easy
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: starter way to start creating new activity in your brain
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: you know Read a book. Touch grass. Don't send people
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you don't know on the internet money who are not
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: threatening to kill your family.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Period. I feel like that's basic shit. That's a takeaway.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: That's basic shit. But no, the takeaway is free him.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: He's standing on that one.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: He doesn't belong in jail. We need to siphon these
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: skills to something positive.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: This is a skilled individual. He did for quite some time.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I do feel like it's kind of low. One three.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Hasn't been run the scam since like 2012.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think it was 2012. Was it 2012? I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It's been a while.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that's all they found.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But thank you for the giggles. Gaggles
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of giggles.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Dude, that was hilarious.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And you girls should be fucking embarrassed.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Embarrassed. I would be so deactivated right now.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Never said all.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I would never be on the internet again. You'd never
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: find me. I would disappear. I would never admit that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I got scammed by this man. They're like, what do
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: they think they're, Risa Tisa? Story time coming soon. What?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you have this jersey on. Although I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: looked for the story. This conversation and this jersey.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: You should have got the helmet. Man.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could go outside. I could run around.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: If you had a helmet, I would not be able
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: to get through this seriously enough. Oh, my God. Anyway,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: how was your birthday?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: It was a big birthday week.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I was turned up, let me tell you. I saw.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I saw.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: That dress was amazing, by the way.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It worked out great. I was very surprised. You look
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: like an angel. How did the titties stay in? This tape,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, the day before, I'm like, oh, fuck,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I don't have any tape. What am I going to do?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: So I'm Amazon, obviously. $ 6.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: 99.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't the reviews look cool? It was like $ 40, 000.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: It's a lot. But I didn't think anything of it
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: because it was $ 6. 99. Best tape I've ever used. And
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to change it or anything.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like that shit should be on an infomercial.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I think everyone thought they were going to get a
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: show at some point in the night. Like, oh, she's
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: on the counter. The titties are coming out. But your
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: titties are still, like, high. Yeah. Yeah, they're saying hello.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my titties are on T-level now. Gravity has begun
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: to take hold.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You've got to get the Tate.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: They slosh around a lot.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I'll send you the link.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I was on the FaceTime with somebody the other day.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I had to move my titty. I was like, what
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: is wrong with you? It was like over here. Give
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it a little, sorry.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: It's in the way. It be like that sometimes.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: It be like that.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, gravity holds us down. No, I had a ball.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: It looked great. I had a ball. And it has
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: me thinking, I haven't had that much fun in a
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: very long time. Like going out in LA where I've
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: gone out is not the same. My head is on
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: a swivel. I got to think about who's going to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: be there, who I'm going to run into. What am
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I wearing? Okay, are they going to be taking pictures?
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's just too much. By the time you get there
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and experience whatever event it is- It's not fun anymore.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Why are you worried about all that?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just L.A.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Shit.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Hollywood shit. Like, I grew up dancing everywhere. Wherever I went,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: everyone was dancing. Moved out here, started going out out here,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: worked at nightlife, all the things. It hasn't been the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: same since.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the going out, the business of going
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: out has changed a lot.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Like, it's not really about having fun. It's about being seen.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: We got to get back to the fun.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we won't because... everybody wants to record everybody
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and everybody wants to be a fucking journalist and everyone
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: wants to have a little viral moment of making fun
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: of somebody while they're dancing. And so it's just not
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the same. Like when we went out and got fucked
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: up and we're stumbling out the club, everyone wasn't recording.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: You were trying to make a moment of it. Like, yeah,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: if you were Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan, sure. But
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the rest of us were just having our, living our
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: lives and having a good time. We'll never get back
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to that again. Well, also I think, I think as you...
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Because you're 35 now.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: I'm 35.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: As you get older as a woman, your fucks get smaller. Oh, they're... Like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I am right on the cusp. Every woman I've ever
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: talked to is like at 40. 40 is the best
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: time of your life because you still feel good and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: you're also not giving a fuck.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: You still got your, you know, your little sexy 40
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: going on, but you give no fucks anymore. And, yeah,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I feel it now. Like, this whole, like, you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: potato butt thing, like, I don't know what you want
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: me to do about it, but, like, it is what
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it is. Like, this is that. You get in whatever
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: body I roll out today.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: And I can't dance. I don't know if you know this.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Do you know this?
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: No, I can't dance either.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't have rhythm. Like, it's absolutely— I did not
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: get the genes.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't get rhythm genes either.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: And my poor child— I wonder if there might still
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: be help. There might be time. We can give him
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: some classes. It's not coming from me. Classes is crazy. Well,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: he's teaching himself Thriller.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, he might still develop. We also from 520,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: we don't want him dancing too much.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: No, but he needs to have the confidence that when
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it's time to bust out a move, he got it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Just one move, though.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: He can't be out here doing Chris Brown routines.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. We don't want to raise those. Or
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: at least know how to bob your head to the beat.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Specs, do you dance when you go out?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like Specs be dancing. There's a groove.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: There's like a universal groove.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about participating
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in the vibes.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to fucking do the butterfly. I'm saying,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: are you clear on the floor?
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's Travolta time.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: They were mad at me for that too. Specs DJ'd.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: yeah I know I hit my knee what did I
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: have you play and I was so adamant about doing
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: this dance like I knew how to do it the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Tamiya song can't get enough the Tamiya yeah yeah you
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: know the little the line dance to it I ain't
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: not doing nobody's line dance you couldn't tell me that
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't I'll do the.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Electric slide that's as far as I'm going Well, I'm
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: glad you had a good time at your birthday.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: You deserve to celebrate.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: You look beautiful.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And I didn't know what you mean.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you're with your friends, when you're in
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: a private space and you can just vibe and enjoy yourself,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: it's different than being out.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: My hair was all the way down that night. Out
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: of time. You did.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: It looks great. If you haven't seen Hailey's photos, Hailey Beauty,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: everyone was like, where do we find Hailey? You cook now, girl.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And they don't even understand. Y'all, I am a Tom boy.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It's a little mini fan club. I saw some comments.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: It was like, wait, who is, who is? The way
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I pull up to the grocery store.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Shit. I don't go to the grocery store because.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Because we live different lives.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I'm on that Instacart life. Yeah. All right.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Well, this was fun. Okay.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: So we have to do never too personal. We, Haley
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: asked for crazy stories. Yes.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: We need all the.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: If you want to be a part of the show.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: To personalpodcasts at gmail.com or you can DM us.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: So this is a DM. This is crazy.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: All right. I'm going to read the story to you.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Me and my ex-husband had a sugar mama I didn't
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: know about that occasionally paid for trips, bought all my
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Christmas and birthday gifts, and shipped clothes to our house
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: for seven years. And the whole time I thought he
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: was taking care of me.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, I have so many questions. Seven years? Yes. Men
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: are insane.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: What the? How are you taking your wife on trips
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: with money that another woman sent you?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Was she in the room down the hall? I'm so confused.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: What does the sugar mama getting out of it? The man.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: She's getting some sugar. No, in the end, after the divorce,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: they got married. What?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: What?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: So she waited it out. She paid it out.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: She paid it out.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: She paid for him.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: She bought him.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Damn, for seven years? Is that human trafficking? Seven years
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: is crazy. It's crazy. It is crazy.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that people will run things like that for
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: as long as they do. Like, the way that you
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: can have a double life.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: What was I going to say?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And people never know.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Trust is a scary thing, boy. That's why most people
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: don't trust people.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I would never trust anyone ever again.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Ever again? I mean, I shouldn't trust anybody now. But...
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Seven years, like... Now, my question is, like, what did
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the husband do? What was his job?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I don't have that. I don't have the job answer.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: He obviously did something that could pay for these things
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that you assumed he was paying for. Yeah, so he
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: would disguise it. Like, it was making sense in your head.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: The math was mathy.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, but is it a net positive, though?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: My thing is, if she didn't get any sugar, she hit.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: She could have stood. We could have stayed married. Let
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: her keep sugar mama and shit.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Let him scam her.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I kicked my feet up and we're chilling. What do
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you think, Specs? A sugar sibling? Like a Polly Shug?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Polly Shug?
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I'd be with it as long as she wasn't getting
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: no sugar.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: That is crazy, though, to think that your husband is
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: retiring you and all the while another woman is sending
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you money.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: He was hitting. She was committed. He was hitting the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: sugar mama. Of course. Had to.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: They're married now.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: That's insane. And she was down the hall in another room.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Like... if she's paying for a
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: trip that you're taking your current wife on. Oh, she's
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: on the trip too? When I go out, when I'm going, babe,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I'll be right back, I'm going to work out, I'm
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: going to get my sugar mama buns down the hall.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I learned, yeah, you're right. Have to.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: You're right about that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Because how else is that set up working?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: If I'm paying for your trip, I'm going to come
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: on the trip too. Yeah. I learned the very hard way, though.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: When you go on trips with men, you got to
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: watch when they ain't with you.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: You've been on the other side of this?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I had a man take me out of the country once.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Had you been dating him for a minute? Yeah. Okay.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: And I went on a trip with him, and we
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: went shopping. And we bought a bunch of stuff. Came
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: back to the hotel. The next day, he was like, oh,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I got to go to this lunch, whatever. Like, it
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: was like a business trip.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, cool.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, I'm going to chill here and go
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to the spa, take a nap, whatever. As it turns out,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: he didn't go to lunch. He went back to the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: store where we went shopping and took the girl that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: helped us, helped bring us up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Out.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: And then they fucked around.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Now, see.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: That was a little bit of like a spontaneous. I'm
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: in another country with you. I know, but I'm thinking
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: you're going to say. I don't care if it's Canada.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking you're going to say he like flew two
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: people out at the same time type of thing. He
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: thought of that the day before. Was she cute?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I don't remember.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: She had eyeballs. I don't fucking know. That's still crazy.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: She was a person. How'd you find out? I mean,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: men don't cover their tracks. He left a picture of
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: her up on. on his computer.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And I was like, that was like that bitch from
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the little shop.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, how the fuck, why the fuck is
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: this bitch on your computer? And why you downloaded that fast?
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: He was like, why are you on my computer?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, nevermind. Got up out of there.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I use this fucking computer every day.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Nevermind.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: You gotta, here's the thing.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Let me give you a tip. When you, when you
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: get caught in a lie, don't ask dumb questions. If
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you ask something, if you ask me, why am I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: in your computer? That is the same as saying, yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I fucked this girl on the trip that we were
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: both at when we were in another country. You might
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: as well have just told on yourself. Because that ain't
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the response.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Why was I on the computer?
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: They always tell on themselves. They always.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: They don't cover.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Think. Think bigger. Think like Daquan.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: What's his name? You know, that's why the women scammers.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Dajon.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Dajon. Think like. Yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Think like Dajon.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: That's why we don't have a woman scammer story. Because
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: they cover their tracks.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Because they get away with it. He should have been
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: out of the country. What's a good country that doesn't extradite?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Like Bali? Indonesia? Could have went back home to Switzerland.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: What about that country?
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: With your wealthy family.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I think I'm taking Indonesia. That's crazy. Indo.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I think I'm still going Indonesia. Anyway, this was fun.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that story, anonymous person. And thank you
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: to Daquan for the giggles. And to everyone else for
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: all the shares and arguments over the $ 5, 000.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Live your life.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway. Thanks for joining us. Make sure you hit subscribe.
• 42:44
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• 42:47
  Speaker 1: we'll catch you later.