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The E-Book Evil Twins w/ Mano Agapion & Oscar Montoya · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come.
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  Speaker 2: Froll scam, come rob that's frolla.
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  Speaker 1: Goddess, what is pop? And Congregation to your girl. Lacy
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  Speaker 1: Mostly aka.
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  Speaker 3: Scam God is back with the comedy podcast all about robbery,
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  Speaker 3: fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we love them,
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  Speaker 3: sometimes we hate them. We will see along the way,
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  Speaker 3: all of us together. And today we have not one,
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  Speaker 3: but two of the besties of the show on the show.
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  Speaker 3: You've seen them and you've certainly heard them. One is
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  Speaker 3: a TV writer, comedian and actor.
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  Speaker 1: The other is as well.
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  Speaker 3: They're saying, okay, come on, besties, except for the twist
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  Speaker 3: of also being a hip hop dancer.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Together, they host a hilarious and fun podcast, drag Her,
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  Speaker 3: a podcast that breaks down episodes of RuPaul's Drag Race
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  Speaker 3: as our drag Race her story.
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  Speaker 1: And they really do know their ship.
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: You've seen their work on The Chicken Sisters, Pretty Smart, Minx,
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  Speaker 3: Dimension twenty Wizards, Beyond Waverley Place, and so much more. Congregation,
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  Speaker 3: please welcome back Mono. And I'm about to buck up
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  Speaker 3: your last name And I don't know why, No, no.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. Just go for it. Yeah that's correct,
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  Speaker 4: I got.
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  Speaker 3: Insecured there's too many and it even is phonetically here
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  Speaker 3: and I didn't trusted.
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  Speaker 4: And that's how you say that was a great intro.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: That would Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I want to clip that intro and then use it
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  Speaker 5: for everything everything that we host more.
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  Speaker 3: I love a good intro because I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: like we get to hear our own eulogies, and that's
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  Speaker 3: really true.
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  Speaker 4: And we should be present at this.
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  Speaker 1: We should.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to do a funeral party one pretty yeah, because.
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  Speaker 1: Funeral for the living just doesn't seem fair. I want
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  Speaker 1: to be there. I want to see y'all say it.
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  Speaker 5: I want to see I know right, you're sitting on
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  Speaker 5: a giant like throne watching everyone just cry.
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  Speaker 1: That might have to be my next scam. It's just
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  Speaker 1: fake my own death.
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  Speaker 4: That's actually real.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta know how people really come in.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. That's the ultimate scam. You faking your own dad.
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  Speaker 4: Who would come?
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  Speaker 1: It's trying to steal my my ass?
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  Speaker 4: You know, who would come and be like, guess what,
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad she's gone, and then like and then you
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  Speaker 4: get at them in the face and be like, guess what,
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  Speaker 4: no one would do that.
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  Speaker 5: You slide down from the chandelider surprise.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to do it, like, have a plant
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  Speaker 3: person there to do that, just so my entrance can
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  Speaker 3: be that more dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: What you're saying about me?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, you know we always ask on this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: what is your relationship with scams? I haven't had you
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  Speaker 3: guys in a why so? I mean I feel like
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  Speaker 3: the scams have just gotten bigger and bigger, and people
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  Speaker 3: are getting more and more innovative.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, what's your relationship? Now?
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen any run any any that you particularly
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  Speaker 3: admired or hated anything?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we both just recently on our podcast on the Patron,
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  Speaker 4: we gave a lot of shoplifting tips to our well, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 4: well yes I got caught shoplifting. I didn't know if
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  Speaker 4: she was an outer.
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  Speaker 5: Well I'm gonna do it. Hey, listen, I don't shot
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  Speaker 5: the target. I steal from target. Yes, I stole from target.
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  Speaker 1: That's the place where you should steal.
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  Speaker 5: You should a place where everyone's listen. I'm not like
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  Speaker 5: ground it's not groundbreaking news, you know what I mean. Well, now,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know that until the.
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  Speaker 1: Recently, like the Handmaid chips.
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  Speaker 4: Literally, oh my god, it's his.
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  Speaker 5: Bulls then ready for me. So I went in there
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, I was like, oh, I need
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  Speaker 5: some vitamins. I just recently moved and the only thing
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  Speaker 5: nearby was a target, and I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 5: go in there. I'm just gonna steal some vitamins.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's not a big great it's a great steal
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  Speaker 4: because it's expensive and small.
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  Speaker 5: It's so expensive and it's super tiny and I and
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  Speaker 5: I brought a little bag. I'm like, it's gonna be fine.
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  Speaker 5: I walk in there and I run into an old
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  Speaker 5: student of mine and we're like talking, and that's that's
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  Speaker 5: the problem. I'm literally chatting away with him.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, you know, because I also think teaching
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  Speaker 4: improv makes you rich, Like clearly they have money, UC
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  Speaker 4: that's the scam. And so you know, I I I
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  Speaker 4: had the vitamins in my bag.
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  Speaker 5: I was like talking to my old student and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 5: all right, bye, I gotta go. And I walk out
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  Speaker 5: the door and this manager steps right in front of me.
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  Speaker 4: Did this of course, well, of course everyone, so I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know that part of the story.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, she was like stop and I said what and
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  Speaker 5: I need immediately it was like a fucking hell. And
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  Speaker 5: I was like I'm sorry what And then I tried
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  Speaker 5: to leave, being like all confused. And then because you
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  Speaker 5: put your headphones on, yes, at first you were like
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  Speaker 5: what yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was like this can't be but I know, what
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  Speaker 4: hell you?
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  Speaker 5: And then two cops show up or security officers whatever,
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  Speaker 5: and they're like, come with us, and I said, me,
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  Speaker 5: I get to see the back of the store. I
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  Speaker 5: would be a little curious, like an eleven year old
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  Speaker 5: child that did a naughty thing. I said, Okay, this
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  Speaker 5: is gonna be fun. So I walked because I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: I stole a. I stole like forty dollars with a
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  Speaker 5: it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: So I walk back.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like I feel my student's eyes on me as
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  Speaker 5: I walked towards the back and I was like, this
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  Speaker 5: is so embarrassing. I go to the back and then
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  Speaker 5: they're like show shows your bag and I was like,
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  Speaker 5: what what do you mean. They're like, shows your bag,
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  Speaker 5: shows your bag. And then one of the security guards
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  Speaker 5: just grabs my bag and opens it up, and I
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  Speaker 5: was like I don't think that's a lot. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 5: he takes the vitamins and I was like, oh, my gosh,
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  Speaker 5: did I put the I'm sorry, I'll pay for them.
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  Speaker 5: It's okay, I don't worry. And they were like it's
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  Speaker 5: too late. And I can tell the manager was feeling
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  Speaker 5: a little zesty with that. She really was like crop
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  Speaker 5: in the store.
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  Speaker 4: She was having a blast with me.
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  Speaker 1: Accidentally put something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know it was not your attention, but it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you haven't been there before, you haven't stolen from this
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  Speaker 3: place before.
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  Speaker 1: Likes to build a case. Well, actually I have okay,
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  Speaker 1: Well then they might have been building the case.
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  Speaker 4: They were building a case.
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  Speaker 3: If you get away up a little bit switch store
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  Speaker 3: and that's the actual switch stores.
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  Speaker 5: But no, there's like a it's a whole database. It's
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  Speaker 5: a whole database. So listen, you hit seven fifty.
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  Speaker 4: Then they cast yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so they were like, oh yeah, blah blah blah,
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  Speaker 5: you sold these vitamins. And then she got really like,
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  Speaker 5: what are you going to do these vitamins? Were you
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  Speaker 5: selling them? Were you trying to sell them? Were you
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  Speaker 5: selling them illegally? You were going to sell them illegally?
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, vitamins, what are you talking? How
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  Speaker 5: is doing that about American health care?
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  Speaker 1: Is that I understand what she said, literally, how.
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  Speaker 4: Much do you think B twelve is worth on the strikes?
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  Speaker 4: That seriously vitality.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, they were scrilling me. I was like, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't know this was happening, Like I don't know, I
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  Speaker 5: could make up. I said maybe actually, but I was
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  Speaker 5: like no, no, no, and then she's like she made
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  Speaker 5: me sign all this paperwork and then they took pictures
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  Speaker 5: of me. They took six pictures of me from all angles,
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  Speaker 5: and I said, oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: And then she was like private prison.
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  Speaker 5: And then they said they were like, you're banned from targets,
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  Speaker 5: all targets for a year. And I was like I
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  Speaker 5: chuckled because I was like a year and I and
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  Speaker 5: my my whole attitude.
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  Speaker 4: Was like this is so silly. I was like, okay, fine, whatever, like,
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  Speaker 4: but she was not happy. Thought. She wanted me stressed.
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  Speaker 4: She wanted me just shaking. She wanted me pleading.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I could arrest you right now if I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to. And I was like, no, you can't, and
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  Speaker 5: she's like, yes, I can. So mad that I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: like pleading for my life. I was like, okay, girl, whatever,
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  Speaker 5: and then she just let me go and I walked.
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  Speaker 4: Out and I was like, lord, literally, being a county
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  Speaker 4: little thief is really funny. I think county. I was
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  Speaker 4: just like, okay, you caught me, girl, but can I
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  Speaker 4: go now?
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  Speaker 1: I want to go, and you want me to be
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  Speaker 1: in physical toss about literally.
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  Speaker 4: Also like come back in the year is so funny
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  Speaker 4: of like, okay, so we're still doing capitalism. It's like
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  Speaker 4: we want your mind exactly in three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: five days.
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  Speaker 5: You could a bad thing. Yeah, time out for a year, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but then come back to come back, come back with money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I hate that. And I was saying you, it's
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  Speaker 4: targets great and easy to steal because when you go
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  Speaker 4: to the self checkout, you can like you like, boop
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  Speaker 4: your card and then after you boop your card, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: do you want to do check or cash or do
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  Speaker 4: you want a bag? Like they make you do these
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  Speaker 4: other steps after they you've already booped your card. So
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  Speaker 4: I tell everyone, if you're going to steal from Target,
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  Speaker 4: go boop your card and hit it, because then the
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  Speaker 4: sale doesn't finish because you've done it's worth yes before
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  Speaker 4: and it's plausible deniability. You can be like I booped
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  Speaker 4: my card. I heard the card go boop. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't charge me, and it works the boo it
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  Speaker 4: all the boot page and Target. If you're hearing this,
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  Speaker 4: fuck you you Target, fuck you sponsored by Target.
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  Speaker 3: No, I am not, but it is kind of like
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  Speaker 3: a class thing too, of like if you're paying with
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  Speaker 3: cash and you don't got boop in on your phone,
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  Speaker 3: then like you're kind of like left out of that.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I don't like places that are only card
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  Speaker 3: because I'm like, that's really classes because what if I
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  Speaker 3: only have cash? Like what if I don't have the
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  Speaker 3: boop situation? I don't you know, I can't boop a flip?
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  Speaker 4: You want me to boot my sidekick, I'm gonna just
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  Speaker 4: do the boot myself.
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  Speaker 1: I have keep walking.
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  Speaker 4: What's my LG artist?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: What was my LG called? That had the chocolate? It
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  Speaker 4: was not a chocolate. It wasn't the sidekick? How did it? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: So this is the phone, So it was vertical on
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  Speaker 4: this and then when you opened it there was a
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  Speaker 4: physical keyboard that went sideways. It's not the sidekick. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think sidekicks. That's no Kia. Okay, on the phone,
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  Speaker 4: it looked vertical here. Yeah, you're the phone. Okay, boo
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  Speaker 4: boo boop. Oh, I got a call. Oh no, not
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  Speaker 4: right now, Mom, I'll text you then you go. And
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  Speaker 4: the keyboards here like this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of mobile situation is.
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  Speaker 5: I was?
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  Speaker 4: I was in college in the before time. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: When I was in college, there were no iPhones. Oh
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  Speaker 4: my god, isn't that fuck? Wow? Oh she's ancient. I'm ancient.
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  Speaker 4: There was no grinder. Oh my god, Oh wow, isn't
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  Speaker 4: that crazy. I don't know how I got sick, but
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  Speaker 4: I found.
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  Speaker 3: It was like like Pokemon going in or like you
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  Speaker 3: just gotta can't use a masterball. Y'all had to get
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  Speaker 3: on missconnections and be like I saw.
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  Speaker 4: You by the water and had to go to the
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  Speaker 4: gay club and you had to be using that fishing
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  Speaker 4: line like you had to go for it.
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  Speaker 5: Were you around in LA when Circus of Books was
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  Speaker 5: a thing, because that was a cruisy spot.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't do that, Okay, I was it a library.
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  Speaker 4: Circus of Books is like a video and like bookstore
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  Speaker 4: that's known to be a gay institution because it's like
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  Speaker 4: a cruising hot spot for yes, all the way going
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  Speaker 4: back to the sixties. Mm hmm. Wow. But now it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: by the time I moved there were no circus of books.
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  Speaker 1: Like Grinder killed circus of books.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Grinder killed a lot of things did, including romance.
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  Speaker 4: It's dead.
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  Speaker 1: That's dead. But scammed.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I just got scammed. Oh no, this is the
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  Speaker 4: you'll see this is this is a light scam. It's
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  Speaker 4: not a real scam. It's a light scam. I was
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  Speaker 4: in Seattle, and which is so insane. I accidentally booked
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  Speaker 4: a part playing the gay the gay in a Christmas
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  Speaker 4: rom com.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you accidentally.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not even joking with you. I did a table
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  Speaker 4: past somewhere and we're like, you're gay this movie Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: You look like a old tide gay.
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  Speaker 4: I did. I did my friend's table read for her movie,
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  Speaker 4: and they were just like, I don't know, you are funny.
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  Speaker 4: You should do it period. That's called talented. Yes, yeah,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: that's true. That's true. That's true. I accidentally killed it.
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  Speaker 4: But so I went to Seattle to film this movie
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, okay, cool, I'm in Seattle. I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna go be adventuress and meet the gays, and I
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  Speaker 4: went to one insane gay night at the Eagle called Gyznasium.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're getting to the point, you know what's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Where you have to take your clothes off and you
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: kit caddy, kit caddye what's that? So?
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Kit cat clubs were like you go in and like
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  Speaker 3: there's like a lady like with the titties out and
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  Speaker 3: she's like get yours out, just.
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  Speaker 5: Like you're the woman in front of the door with
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  Speaker 5: her titties are being like, how's your chick?
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  Speaker 4: Now you do it?
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  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, how goot? I give you out
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  Speaker 1: my shirt. It was like yeah, I we'll take your shirt.
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: What was going on?
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  Speaker 1: I was in Berlin. I wanted to know what was
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  Speaker 1: going on? Was closed at night?
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: You I was doing?
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're saying what was going on?
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: Wait? Like, so were you mugged? Get take it off it.
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: You're like, okay, I'll give you my top. She's like okay,
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: well she.
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  Speaker 1: First of my jackets because it was cold.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, cold check. And then as
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to keep going, she was like that too,
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  Speaker 3: and where you want my purse? King, I can't cash
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  Speaker 3: on me. So I was just like I tipped her
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  Speaker 3: a little extra. Was like, hey, make sure done that
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  Speaker 3: that happened to my stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And she was like, I got you. I got you.
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  Speaker 6: But so you go.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So we go to because I've been saying yes
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: to life. I'm like, I'm like, I wasn't really totally myself,
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  Speaker 4: if you know. I mean when you go to a
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: city and you're like, I'm not really myself here. I'm
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  Speaker 4: an experiment and try some choices. So I go to
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: gymnasium and I wear a towel and I meet some
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: new friends.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, just a towel, nothing underneath, nothing underneath.
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  Speaker 4: It's fun, it's flirty, hahaha, Cuka cue. And I meet
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: some very nice, goofy friends. They're sweet, they're nice, they're intelligent.
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  Speaker 4: They're Seattle gays, right, they like, they're cerebral, they're funny.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, well, you guys are turn events in
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  Speaker 3: the nude yeh okay, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Grace Seattle, that's Seattle. That's just Seattle girl. So whatever.
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  Speaker 4: I'm having a great time with them. And they're like,
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  Speaker 4: come to this rave tomorrow now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, second location.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, They're like, don't worry, We're gonna have like a
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: pre party before. Come to the pre party before. Okay,
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: I go to the pre party. Point is, these educated, sweet,
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  Speaker 4: fun nice men that I met the night before, I
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  Speaker 4: now realize are the stinkiest people I've ever met.
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: And these men you're gonna get in trouble with Seattle.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: I don't give a shit. Oh these men smell like
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: barnyard animals. Because there's like a moment happening in the
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: queer community where some people are really into musk, really
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: into musk and body older and letting it ride. And
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm not saying one or two days
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: post shower. I'm saying a week or more no shower
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  Speaker 4: or no armpit rehab.
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  Speaker 3: Why.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: And I felt scammed.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Just the way they smelled normal when you met them.
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  Speaker 4: I guess they were all the clothes were off or
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: maybe just nasium smelled. But it's about I didn't realize it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, doesn't the body make this, well, not the clothes,
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  Speaker 3: And the clothes can't make the smell. But if the
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: body smelling, then the body don't know.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: The clothes is like a barrier for the soul like
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: prevents a lot of smell also of the spell.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Know what happened Gymnasium, So I don't know. I know
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: what you're gonna be people with their children.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know where it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: We're explicit. I just don't want to say it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Beeps are funny though, to be.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Fair, gym smell bad though, so maybe they were trying
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: to be like we this is a place of funk.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I felt scanned because I was like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: oh man, I thought we were going to be friends.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Now I can't. I can't stand. I can't stand the
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: way you spell people.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: You associate sophistication with smell.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I colonized, that's your prejudice. No, that's your prejudice, asked mine.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I'm the same way.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry to colonize.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Your brain smells deeply connected to memory, and if you
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: smell bad, I wouldn't. There are some people that I
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: really enjoy and the comedy community, people that I really
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: like that are geniuses and I've worked with afterwards. I'm
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: not gonna say because they've been on this podcast, but
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget going into a green room for a
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: show and this press and I know they were depressed.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: But this person smells so bad, so bad that I
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: remember it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: This was five years ago depression coming out of memory.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: For you memory. What I'm saying, like, I understand where
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: you're coming from. You were scammed.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: There was your fun, sophisticated friends, and then they hit
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: your nose like that, and.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: The queer community if for listening. I feel scammed by
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: y'all who are like, we're doing this now because you're
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: taking up you're taking up too much space. What the
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: hell you silencing voices? Now?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Are we doing this now?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And you definitely aren't taking up too much space because
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the odor does take up space.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Now you're not just to yourself.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Your choice is taking up is taking away my freedom
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: to not smell you. Yeah, what do you think about
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: musty gays? I don't care. You don't care. I mean
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: it's bad, Like if you smell bad, back off. But
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to those spaces. Do you know what
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You can have a safe stinky space.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I just I just need to know I was encroaching
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: on their safe space.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Scammed yourself.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: You wanted to get scared. Some people want to get scared.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: You said, you're being a different person in a different city,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: and there you were.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: I was trying to be a stink boy and I'm
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: not scarce.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: God, I thought you were going to talk about the
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: pup story that too.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Because that's when you were truly scammed. Here's another scam.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: So I'm at this rave it's the same rave ravecause
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: goddamn same rave whatever, and I'm like, I meet someone
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: who does not smell and they're funny and cool. I'm like, oh,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you took a shower.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not shutting so much during a damn right.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: That's actually also the music here was hell just c.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do y'all have this?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding. This was the song playing during
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: the ray for twenty minutes, The chemicals, the chemicals, the chemicals, chemicals,
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: And I was like, y'all are crazy. So I find
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: one guy. I'm like, oh, like, he's just like a nice,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: good time friendly having a nice time talking about finally. Yeah.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: I was just like finally engaging. Also, a lot of
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: people were on the drugs, themicals, the chemicals. I wasn't
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: on the chemicals, and I was like, Okay, this guy's
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: like here right now, you know what I mean. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, I can talk to him. We're having
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: a nice time. And then in the middle of our
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: nice conversation, I think he smells good. I think he's
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: one of he's he's one of us. Now one of us.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: He pulls out a mask from his back pocket chemicals.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: It's a pop mask. I don't know if you know
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: what this is. It's a pop mask. And he says
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: to me, now I'm Grunger. And that's when I said, okay,
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: I have to go to Taco back. I've been scammed.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I have been scammed.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Now that when you were, you were scared. He presented
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like he was just literally right, y'all, was talking over
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: the gem and it was I was having a great time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: And then now he's like, no, you can't just whip that.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: I wanted to be to me a totally different person
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: to Grunker.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I was like, no, bitch, you're a nice white man
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: named Tyler. You're not Grunker.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: And also Grunker feels like you grugger. What do you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: need to be Grunker? He don't know, and be like
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: this is something I like, why you gotta be Grunker?
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: What do you do?
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: In the assaulter ego?
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: No, what do you do? And here's here's my one
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: one more canceled opinion. I have gaze. I think we
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: got to hold off on the pumps. I think once
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: we have more rights, you can bring out the pop masks.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: But right now we go we gotta get our rights.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: And you're pulling up the pup mask and you're scaring them.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: You're scaring the bad people who already don't want to
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: give us stuff. You gotta butt away the pup mask.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: But they did it at the place with the chemicals,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: so like it was kind of like safe right. It
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: was like they were at targeting the via of the story.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I could see your points.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: I could see your points.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You were definitely duped to the second time. I'm gonna
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: give it to the people, but the second round I'm
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: gonna give to you. Yeah, you didn't know that Grugger
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: was coming until so you were like saying.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Showed up. That wasn't right, that wasn't right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Well, let's move out of this messy acid. It's my
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: favorite part of the show.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know today this isled you. No, y'all really
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: came in with things y'all already, so I feel a
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: little dragged, you know. The podcast like, so, I'm gonna
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: have the chemicals stuck in my head all day. But
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: let's get to historic hoodwings. This is where I were,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Gail Mana and Oscar with the famous Concaper criminals.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them. Maybe there's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Delia as hell. We'll see.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: So.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Amazon is full of useless ebooks and audio books that
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: were clearly generated by chat GPT and have no reason
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: to exist.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Not my book, y'all, go pick up my book. Scam God,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Very real, every fine, fine literature.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: The reason they exist is because of the Michaelson Twins,
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: who literally wrote the book on publishing scams.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: Michaelson Twins.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of these and so ebooks and audiobooks.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of them either, But now we know
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: about them.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I hope they address a lots who talk in.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Love it so ebooks and audiobooks. There's a huge underground
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: world dedicated to producing and distributing very cheap, very low
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: quality e books on Amazon, from nonfiction to romance books.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Like when the three attacks.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: The three three, I.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Don't know, but three is a scary no. I feel
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: like if three, like if the two attack, I'm not.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Three the four.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I know there's some interpersonal fighting between y'all each other. Yeah,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: three the three feels very evil and like, y'all, y'all
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: are witches.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It's like the Powerpuff Girls. You don't want to fight
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: all three of them.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: No, they was beating Mojo jojo ass.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: He would be down on the ground bleeding.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And there's already already, y'all. So other books like Apricot,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: barcode architecture, that's English. That's so many things that don't
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: mean anything, but it does get the people going, like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: I'm alert.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Apricot sounds fancy, barcode architecture.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Like look at this?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Wait, if you love me? Whoa, And it's a picture
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of a dove looking at me.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: But also maybe that's a seagull. Oh, lazy Oscar is
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: a bird expert. I excuse me.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Once wartime is over, Lacey's releasing a seagull to symbolize
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: that war is over.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's immediately packing me today.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, wait, wait you love me?
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: That's the title of the book. And then it's a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: seagull looking at us. Sam, I hate love.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I hate birds.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's about birds.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's about I don't know, rehabilitation
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: of their image.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I think it's about a seagull who falls in love
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: with the human, and the human falls in love back.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And the author of this book is.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Nope, Nope, it's unpron It seems like I would guess
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: it was quinn T is my guess, but I'm not
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: an expert on pronunciation. Quina quin t m queen Vietnamese name.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't want to make fun of nobody name.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: I name.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: So they're not real books written by real authors. They're
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: made up nonsense, using trending keywords to try to get
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: real readers to click on and buy a fake or
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: really really bad book by mistake. I don't know if
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: weight you love me would a segull is gonna get me?
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: You aren't entranced by the cover and the font of
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the letters. No, No, Do you think it's for people?
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Because you know, sometimes people fall in love with objects.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Have you heard of this? People like it's called objective sexuality.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like people like falling in love like a pillow, yeah, or.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: The Eiffel Tower, and then they go and like try
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: to marry it. There's a documentary called Like I Love
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: You Eiffel Tower, or I married the Eiffel Tower, Statues, fences, bridges,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I know this is what I'm saying. Guys, put away
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the pup masks, put no bounds. No, wow, crazy, I'm sorry.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with no building.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Build and you see the Eiffel Tower. Yeah, and you have.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: It.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, cover your ears. Building can't make you nut, cover
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: your cover your hairs. Whoever listening, building can't make you
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: cover your ears.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: To immediately say, no time to cover any ears at all,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: scamp nothing cover yours building.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: So so many of these books include misinformation or repackage
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: basic facts from Wicky. How some of them steal the
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: names from well established existing authors and pretend to be
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: new releases from those writers.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Now I made no scamp gout is too okay, So
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you see scam gots to elect your Bookloo, that ain't me.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: That ain't me.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: That's chat.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: That is not a very gordy property.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: So with generative AI, anyone can create cover, images, outlines,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: and even the text of a really bad book with
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: almost no time and effort and sell it for ninety
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: nine cents. But even before AI, fake ebooks were a
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: thriving scam area. Now I will say like ninety nine
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: cents for like a horrible garbage AI book.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I might be curious a little bit going on, you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: Said, And I was like, but what nine sense is
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: not that expensive? See what kind of garbage this AI
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: slop is?
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Do the sentences sentence right? That's the thing.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Are the Are they just letters put together? Are they
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: actual sentences?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Because I love a good hate watch, I think I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: would love a good hate read.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't encourage you, so we cannot encourage a
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: it's literally killing people in Memphis.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You can.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: There's already bad books you can hate read, like Jessica
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Simpson's autobiography. Oh you had that, Jessica Simpson. I'm coming
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: from it as if it was written by a toddler.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: It's like me got scared, me get married, like it
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: made shoes, and then I recommend the audiobook because she
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: could barely read her own audio book.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I love that her shoes were good. Okay, oh they
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: were good.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, you wouldn't have got caught up in target
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: if you had on because iride from the cops.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Many a time. Sturdy as fun. I'm not playing. Okay,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you're still making the responsors shoes and you could wear
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a sheel all night at the curb. It was basically
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: a pleaser.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: But I love pleas, you know what I mean?
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Not a bit, just want to have a high ass
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: pitch within, asked little fashion. He I'm like, where's not
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: going I take a picture on the carpet or where whatever,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: ben I'm at? And then I thought, I I throw
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: them in my person flats on butch are you kidding me?
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: No?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm an adult. You're not doing that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: But just got a book locked and loaded for you guys.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: If you don't want to spend money on it. Sorry,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: it's a fact. So in the early twenty tens lots
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: of people wrote real blogs about how to quickly and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: easily publish a nonsense book to Amazon's e book platform.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: They distinguished between schemes that were white hat, where you
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: technically followed Amazon's rules, and black hat, where you actually
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: violated Amazon's term of service but it still worked. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: don't like this white hat black hat, And I know
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: that you used to say the white hat on Scandal
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and Olivia Pope like, I wear a.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: White hat, what does it mean?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I've never heard that it's like you're supposed to be
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: like good, like you're a symbol for good. So you
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: can like wear the white hat and quotes here. Yeah,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: it's propaganda. You can wear a white hat or a negro.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Hat and do the bad things. We all know. White
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: hat is the worst hat that's ever been made, right
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: behind red hat.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You're gonna come in some crimes, full faced white hat.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying? That's what I when
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I hear white hat, that's what I hear.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this one more like a cowboyish type hat,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: but it's the same hat. Oh yeah, But basically you're
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: massaging the rules versus completely just violating them. And one
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: of the most infamous teachers was a man who went
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: by Luca Destephanie or Big Luca.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Not actually my big book Luca. See it's a shame
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: his name is hotter than his face. Oh why did
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: I just say that?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: The viewers will see this?
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: But why did I just that? Just came? Okay? And
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: then today.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: So he claimed to hold the world record for making
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the most money using kindle publishing, like money, the most
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: money using kindle publishing in one single day? What said
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Big Luca's method apart was that he gave his students
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: access to a secret Facebook group where self publishers organized
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: and they would do like review swaps and buys. So
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Big Luca basically set up a book on crime ring.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: But he's okay, So he's a teacher. I mean, students
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: call him Big Luca.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you call himself Big Luca, and I think everybody
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: else just had to join.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: He was like, you can't join the Facebook group unless
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: you know the password, which is Big Luca.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Y'all will call me this. That's CULTI that's okay, And
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: it's kind of smart.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Because it's like, okay, we're all making these fake books
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: and in order to boost all of our books because
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: people do do this on Amazon, they'll do fake reviews,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: or they'll mail you a fake package that you didn't order. Like,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: there's all types of ways to make your sales go
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: up and your reviews look more inflated, and then the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: website automatically puts you higher up in the algorithm. So
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: if I were to look up romance book, this ship
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: uh slide you wait, you like me?
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: You love me? Also, this should have punctuation. I'm sorry,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: grammar police. They should be way creativity, you decide what
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: these Wait wait you love me, Wait you love me?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Wait, you love me?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: But it's love me. Yeah, come ongin. I didn't. I forgot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: I was in the company of a cours.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: No, we need it now. We need it now because
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I need to know what it's about.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: So review swaps were the key rights making the self
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: publishing scam actually profitable when it first began, the more
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: five star reviews you have, just like I said, it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: more likely that Amazon algorithm is gonna push it forward
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: to the readers. If you're mostly publishing bad books, you're
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: not gonna get a ton of five star reviews organically.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: But Big Lucas Facebook group gave people running the scam
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: a place to offer swaps, right, and they were selling
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: these five star reviews for ninety nine cents each.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: I'm just looking at Big Luca's face and I'm like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: this man is a homosexual.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's no.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Houses eyebrows for one, it's not it's the it's the
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: it's the mouth shape.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: It's the it's the eyebrows.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: There for me, core like you got a feather plant
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: back there.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: It's giving homosexuals where you are. Big Lucas truly. How
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: do you go by Big Luca and not be gay? Yeah,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: and cluture you're He has a glory whole setup for sure.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you can beat me as much as
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: you want.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: No, I mean.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: He has one pleasures, pleasures, pleasures the front door, baby,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: tell you to be stopped.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I saw by.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I forgot this. This is a popular, huge but we
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: have a small audience, so we don't know what it's
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: like like. We don't know how to behave I don't
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: know how to okay, sorry, sorry, Oh my god.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: So big Local Big Luca was on top of the
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: world right, selling his scheme as the self publishing revolution.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Then in twenty sixteen, a man named Christian Michaelson enrolled
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: in Big Lucas course, and the world of scam publishing
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: would never be the same.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: He looks like mister beast he does. This is a
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: This is not a real man, is it?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And just so y'all know in the future it's Christian Michelson,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: like Philon. We got the twins, the Michelson twins.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Look at them now, huh they look fake?
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: What I thought like like a romance novel man would
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: look like Drawn from memory, that part like if.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Memory that part.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: It's like when the beast becomes man and then he
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: had a gay twin.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's accurate.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Y'all.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: See we're not wrong.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: We're not wrong.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: There's something about like one of them is poor, one
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: of them is rich. They switch places, one of them
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: gets a hair.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like they should both have long hair, like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the other guy's making a mistake.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I like the short hair one. Oh no, I think
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: long hair. I like short. They're both gonna hurt us,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: like they're both gonna kill it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: They look like murderers, murderers or models. They got long necks.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: They could do some modeling. I hate to say that
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I would, but I would. I love this game. Murders.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Damn got his murderers were model.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: So the Micheles and twins who are named Christian and Rasmus, No, no, ma'am.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Why somebody get Christian? Another one get around.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: He's a long haired one has.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: But they might as well be interchangeable and are terrifyingly
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: well groomed white men from Denmark. Okay, Christian fround Big
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Lucas course by googling how to make money online. He
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: used the method to publish his first e book called
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: how to be a four point zero student in college
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: like me? Okay, okay, okay, models not murderers, now, opinions.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: This is a true question because they're both. It is
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: both right now for me. Damn, it's giving talented mister Ripley.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, you can be in the middle dance all night.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sick though. I have a thing for like
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: when boys look like ken dolls like that, They're like, yeah,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: that's scarce program that brain, I know, but the brain
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: is colonized. I'm sorry.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: So this book that he has that's like how to
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: be a four point oh student in college, just like me.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: It was twenty four pages long. And the secret in
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: his case was that he was taking an associate's degree
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: course in exercise science at County College of Morris in Randolph,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: New Jersey.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: So I wasn't a huge accomplice.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Was that AI? Was that sentence that you read?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: AI?
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Because that was crazy.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Exercise science that they do.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: But it does make me laugh because it's like in
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: New Jersey.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: It's like a famous Louisiana football player who plays for
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the Eagles, who has an exercise science degree and he'd
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: been putting.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It to use.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: What is that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: What is that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Like to be a pe teacher? What Like it's like
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: your body's physiology.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and working out and like if you bruised, like
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you know, you shouldn't probably use a thorough gun on
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: that because you're making the brains drainage.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're not a doctor, but you know
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you you personal trainer.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: As an exercise, I want.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: To disrespect the exercise scientists out there, okay, because they
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: disrespected and that's not me. I just want you to know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: separate me from that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Remember many different Yeah, come fucking DM me.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: But he's saying about science, run more, sweat more. What's
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: the science?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Sam?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: So I'm also saying here that like his whole tip
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: was just go to a very easy school and you'll
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: be a four point of student like me.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: He he he he.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: You already bought the book ra.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Run So.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Christian brought Rasmus, his brother into the business, and he
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: published a cross training manual. Together they published all kinds
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: of ebooks, guides, ta keto and sex and crystals, picking
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the topics and titles based on trending keywords. So we
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: have two beautiful men from Denmark. They got sex books.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: They got and they wrote this together. They wrote the
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: sex book together.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: That is crazy, right, the six book with your brother,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: with your twin brother.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: That they didn't maybe they submitted chapters, like they took
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: turns every page.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: So so go faster. They hired ghost writers.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And once their combined earnings grew to around three
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: thousand a month, they quit school and moved to Thailand
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: in September of twenty seventeen, where the internet was fast
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and the cost of living was nearly zero, so they
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: could work no technically illegally because you're working out of
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the country and you're not probably paying Thailand's taxes. And
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people during twenty twenty had
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: moved to Thailand and were like, hey, y'all, if you
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: work from home, just move on over the time I.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Go to Buquet, like because you could there's a tax
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: loophole of some kind.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think it is.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: I think that they were just doing it illegally and
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: like the cost of living is so cheap. They were
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: living like in these palatial houses, but like working.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Online, right, they're criminals.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: The Thailand government did starting window it because the thing
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: is is like y'all can't get keep no more. Every
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: time y'all find something good, I have to ask on
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: TikTok for some motherfucking lights. And now y'all can't be
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: over it to fraud and Thailand's government no more. We
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: could have all been to fraud in the government.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I have to do this.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Hitch your group chat. We can keep spreading it alone.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: This is why we eat chain mail back. Okay, we
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: need to start threatening that you're gonna die in sixty
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: days if you don't send this mail it to ten
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: of your friends.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Call you met medieval kind.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Why I want to hear this is okay that mass
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: really did something. So you're in the club that traumatize you.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you I'm putting on my chain mail right now.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Now I'm.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Scam Gottess is gone.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: PTSD.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, where are the deodorants? Okay?
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: They ran their manuscripts through Google Translate and started selling
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: foreign language editions, which bumped their income up to six figures.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Now I know how good Google Translate is, and by
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: good I mean bad. So who knows what they were
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: reading because Scammer's still trying to use this in the
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: emails that they send the fish right now, that's one
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: of the usiest indicators that it's not from Amazon, you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: with a oh, it's from Amazon with a zero. Is
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: that there's tons of misspellings and the etiquette isn't correct.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: They'll be like, have a blessed days Amazon, I never
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: told me have no blessing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. It's so funny when you also
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: look at the email or like because it says Amazon,
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: but then if you click on what is the email address,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: it's always like love twenty eight tb okay.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: So shortly after that, right, Amazon blocked their publishing account
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: and that could have been the end for the Twins,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: but they no, no, no, they doubled down. So Amazon said, yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: here faking a funk out, y'all plan on our names
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: and we're going to block your accounts so.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Those who can't do show.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: They started a YouTube channel so that they can teach
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: the business of self publishing to anyone who wanted to learn,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: with a new focus on audio books.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Your books, I want to hear what they sound.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Three seven hour sessions to record my audio books. So
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, how are y'all doing this business? So after
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: posting a new I feel like you just got to
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: make up the audiobook as you go and just be
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: talking on the mic like.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Like they don't let you do. That's right, because aren't
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: they like your words have to be as close as possible.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: To publishing something that's like being published legitimately. But if
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: you're doing self published, no, you can get.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: It into what you want. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: So after posting a new YouTube video every other day
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: for about six months, feed that algorithm, they had a
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: thousand subscribers and they launched their first paywalld online course.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: They sold it at a fifty percent discount for five
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars. The day it launched, they made forty eight
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Who people want to make money online?
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Oh my god? And people people were so convinced that
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: this would make money. Yeah, I mean they have to
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: a video now.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: And we're seeing a little clip of the education.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Right that says like fifty five minutes. But we're not
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: gonna watch out that we see.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Official introduction to publishing video. This is going to be
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: an all in one crash course to publishing your first book.
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: So if you're looking to publish one or two books
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: and make a few extra hundred dollars per month. This
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: video will be your Holy Bible or not the business
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: and replace your full time income. Be able to quit
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: your job and just live off of your publishing business.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: This video is a great start and I recommend watching
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: the entire video to the end.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm looking at the back of the and
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: it's not giving making thank you.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Extre gave him money despite the background looking like uh huh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: people want to be scammed.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he got people. It's not giving. It's not
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: giving success.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Is that I can smell him through the through the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: video and what he's smelling like.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: We know what Mon was like.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: It's giving ger. Maybe he is grunger. That was that
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: was gronger.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: So first, of course, was called audio Book Impact Academy.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that again, Audiobook Impact Academy. He didn't
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: put a lot of words in there. That sounds impact
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: and academy. It sounds like a place where you're gonna
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: learn stuff. Then you changed it to publishing life. Now
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: that sounds like a posic scheme. Yes, given her life,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: publishing life, because what do you mean publishing life, promise
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: for life. Everybody said they got you got one good
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: booking here. Everybody got one good book in them. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: don't know if we got a lifetime of publishing in this,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: otherwise you might be living like Monois.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Then he changed it to AI Publishing Academy, but the
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: overall structure stayed the same.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So now we're just shifting the goalpost.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: And I can't imagine being someone who was like, Okay,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: I'm going to join Audio Impact Academy and then always
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: got a new one AI Publishing Academy and I signed
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: up for video.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Nothing wrong there. Oh there's a new name every month.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, that's fine. Yeah, how do you do
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: your well, I guess you do you do your tax
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: If you have a new name every month, how do
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: you do your taxes? You simply can't. That's yeah, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: answered my question.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Also, just like the Shell company could still be the same.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Let's say they do try to be legit. They just
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: put a different name online, and that's just to get
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the algorithm going. It's like, Okay, people getting tired to
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: click it on this, We're going to give them something
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: new to click on. So today it costs two thousand
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: dollars to take this course and It starts with a
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: mandatory two hour webinar, which is just Christian sitting in
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: a dark room, drinking from a water bottle as he
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: shows you screen caps of his students royalty checks and
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: says over and over again that he's already rich. He
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't need more money. But you the viewer, do now, Christian,
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: you did something smart here. You're sitting in a dark room,
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: so we can't see you dirty no more.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: So trust me.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: I'm very rich.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I can only see the whites of his eyes and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: his teeth.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Trust me.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Behind me right now is my pool.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: And anyone who's like, why do you want to teach
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: me this? Right? If you're making thousands a month, why
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: do you want me to have a piece of your market? Yeah?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: And I also don't trust people who say I don't
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: need money, babe? Why you taking my money if you
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: don't need the money?
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: I think ultimately people just want to be scammed. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: If I'm clicking, paying so much money and watching a
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: video of someone in the dark telling me that he
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't need the money you do, I would be like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: something's not right here.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: This is giving cult a personality to me. Of course,
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: like I think people are liking Christians vibes somehow and rassmus.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Rest and so they're like just hanging out with these people.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: They're paying two thousand dollars to feel like they're doing
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: something with their life and even though they're not really,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: and they get.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: To also hang out with this bro who seems cooler
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: than them.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: It also does give me, like, man, what people are
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: willing to believe when a tall white guy says it,
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know what I mean, It's like, we
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: look at it. He's successful.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Look at how tall and white he is.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: So I can be tall and white if I do
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: keep working hard, if I publish.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: White. I don't know if I haven't noticed. As soon
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: as I published that first book, I got I got whider,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: I definitely got taller.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: And you notice I'm well on my way.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I got to get out.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Well, we don't do that malarkey over here. So you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: he keeps you in the dark for two hours. Then
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: he promises to show you how to produce a book
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: without having to write it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: A I will write your outline for you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: The twins will pick your topic for you, giving you
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: access to keywords keyword scrapers. That have pulled trending topics
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: from Kindle and Audible. So basically they're saying, we're gonna
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: help you make your AI book, Like you write that
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: AI outline, then the twins we're gonna pick just any
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: topic for you, and then we're gonna put it into
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: the thing of a jig that's killing all the black
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: people in Memphis, and.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: We're gonna pull some trading topics.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Then you send your AI outline to a ghost writer
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: to turn it into a book for just five hundred dollars,
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: so for thirty thousand words of book, right, so that
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: works out to a fee of like point zero one
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: six six six six seven cents per word, which is
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: very cheap. Yes, I remember Sex in the City when
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Carrie would be like, I'm at folks and they're giving
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: us four dollars per word, and I was like, I
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: don't know what this means, but she can have seven
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars shoes every other day for that.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: Charles Dickens, they're giving me six tuppens for what That's
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: why I'm wearing these lubat Do you like my t tube?
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So after that, you like the Michaelson's work with a
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: ghostwriting company. They're called the Urban Writers and they were
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: developed by two former students. Their ghost writers get hired
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: on a freelance basis and they're kept anonymous so they're
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: not going to go down with this, so they don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: even look like a real lady.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Now. It's like.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: And they're like, we write you win, fast track your
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: best seller success. Okay.
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: And they got people with glasses on, so you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: they're like, oh, clearly they're for sure.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, the website has a little bit of
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: design to it, like they look at them circles behind
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the nerd with the computer.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: He got a computer in the photo. He's like, I'm
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: typing right now.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: We got some people type.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: That's writers type with their with their freaking laptop on
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: in their hands.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: It sounds too good to be true, which means it
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: is we write you win. Okay. I just can't. It's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: too much. But they got it.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: The website looks legit.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: It does. It does.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: So let's say you wanted to do this right, it did,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and you have your manuscript done. The Twins will show
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: you how to hire an audiobook narrator for a flat
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars fee by haggling their prices down. They introduce
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: you to a network of people who are generous with
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: their five star ratings, and they'll push your book up
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: the Amazon rankings for you. All you have to do
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: is sit back and collect your royalty checks. Says you
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: rake in month after month of passive income and it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: all technically allowed. It just floods the ebook marketplace with garbage,
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: because that's what AI does.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Let's flood our lives with garbage. Yes, they were like, y'all.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: Want to live sadder lives a I wait, you love me? Way,
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: wait you love me? Wait, you love me? Wait, you
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: love me?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: It's a song now, Mono's made it a song you
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: love me?
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: That chemicals that think I saw the seagull at the
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Rays definitely.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: At the Rave before bronze man at the Ray.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, So what makes the Michaelson Twins special is that
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: they're operating on several levels of grifting. Here they're selling
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: their scam method to other scammers, but also scamming them.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And to get that free topic for your book, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: have to pay for access to the software that analyzes
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Amazon keywords to tell you what's trending right, So to
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: create the perfect outline. You have to pay for access
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to the AI outlines and draft, and that drafts your
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: book for you.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Right, how do you make money? Don't worry where the
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: money are? Where's the money? Hard?
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: You have to pay for the cover design and for
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: the reviewers. The two thousand dollars fee to the Michaelson's
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: for the course. Right, it's supposed to it's supposed to
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: guarante me that you frequent one on one calls with
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: a publishing coach. But the coach and calls were mostly
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: about upselling the free to get the pre seventy eight
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: dollars course. So you get you get these courses with
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: the two thousand dollars and they're like, get on this course,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: and they're like, you know, it would be great if
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: you bought an other course, because then that's really really
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: gonna start making the books like this.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: You know, have you heard of John Grisham, Yeah, we
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: worked with him.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: You heard a Dann Brown? Yeah, the Da Vinci Code.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: We think he came up for all that stuff. Definitely,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: AI nobody reading books like that about history.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: No more.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Twilight that was also I remember remember I had said
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Sparkly and Vampire and then and then that's.
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: What we got, said Spider and Monkey. Uh huh, where
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: you've been Loca, that's us.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: So with that much investment, the ninety nine cent e
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: book publishing scheme is probably not gonna make you any money, yeah,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: because your passive income is ninety nine and sins a book.
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: No.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, the twins bought the domain publishing dot com,
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: which is where the scam still lives, offering a course.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: They say it can help students make a lifetime of
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: easy cash off of revenue from books they don't even
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: have to bother to write themselves.
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: But what they've done is not illegal yet.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: It's an ethical yes, but technically they're giving a product.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: It's the reason why MLMs can exist and aren't prosecuted
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: as Ponzi schemes because even though in their structure and
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: design they are a Ponzi scheme, because they technically do
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: have a product that they're giving you. Whether it be
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: moldy leggings that you can't sell that you mortgage your
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: house for, or it be classes where there's a man
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: from Denmark in the dark telling you he's rich and
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: upselling you, they still provided.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: The product.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's how you can a war because think
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: about it, there's so many products. If we were to
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: say like, oh, this product is a scam, then the
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: nuance of that legally becomes really difficult to navigate. Because
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: what if I sell like a friendship bracelet that cost
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: me thirty cents to make, but I sell it for
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Isn't that a scam?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but technically somebody's willing to purchase that shitty hass bracelet.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: And you got the bracelet, Yeah, it's worth whatever the
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: consumer is willing to pay for it, which is bad. Also,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: twins are bad.
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, where are where's the other twin in this?
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like one twin is doing a lot of
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: the work and the other twin is where.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: The computer a lot.
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: So that's crazy to be identical twins, and for one
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: of them to be the face of the scam, I
• 53:39
  Speaker 5: would feel, well, I think that's a personality thing.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: It's like one of them got got that gift a
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: gap and the other one's like all right and for
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: the aas stuff, and then the other one is Rasmus.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, got to stay in the dark corner.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, don't know how you look up to.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Rasp rassless is in the dark. Yeah, behind the sunkin.
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: He's got to eat his fish heads.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: That's all you do. Get on the laptop, do the AI,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: and you know they throw some fish hands at.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Like. Have you ever seen those gourmet dog tiktoks where
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: the person makes the like dogs like.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: A Chacodi board. No, no, you have like the bases
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: like rabbit fur that's been like dehydrated.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Then they do like chicken necks and goose snacks and
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: liver and it's like all raw, like salmon and fruits
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: and vegetables and stuff. And then they'll be like eat
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: and then the dog will just start tearing it up,
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: bones and all. And I feel like that's what Rasmuss is.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: I'll put a reference.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: How is that how the algorithm found you? Yeah? I
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: don't think you have Do you have an animal?
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: No?
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just peaceful to watch the dog eat it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: And he gets like a nice story.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: Describe it, he said, tear into the something tasteful about that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I can't explain it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: So their revenue went from around this is the Twins
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: went from around three hundred thousand dollars in twenty nineteen
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: to just shy a fifty million in twenty twenty two.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Eaz tifty. The power will we give these people? Jealous him?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Jealous too.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: That was my first thought too, was jealousy. It's let's
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: all start a scam together. Okay, yeah, we can do.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: This, can a shark tank thing?
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Maybe the COVID lockdown helped turbocharge the sales, so from
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: about twenty thousand dollars a month to blips of five
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars a month, since a lot of people
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: were stuck at home and we're also googling how to
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: make money online.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: The timing, the timing, I mean the big boom.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: You're in a dirty room at home, in the dark
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and always hair.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Did they?
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Did anyone make money? Did well?
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: The twins say that they earned their first million dollars
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: at age twenty five. Their second million came four days later. Today,
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: they project a luxury lifestyle by always posting to Instagram
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: from private pools and or exotic beaches.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: The freedom shortcut.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: There are no shortcuts in life, y'all. Well, you know
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: what be white? Is that what the looks say?
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: I meant a great shortcut because.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Like, look, if you're pouring white or if you know
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: you're dealing with health problems that you're white, it's still bad.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: But but but you might have a little bit of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: a h sorry at least but you'll go fund me.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you at least get a shoot. You know, in
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: terms of shoots and ladders, you get a shoot.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not a ladder, No, we get automatic ladders. Yeah.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I came out the woman and it was like, gave
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: me the rungs ladder, get the climbing baby boom.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, they're trying to keep up their Instagram influence,
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: which I think is they're doing.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: A pretty good job of it. Like look at look
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: at either that has to be Christian. Christian.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: What do you mean with his girl? Oh yeah, if
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: that's the first.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Thirty under thirty, then you already know where they're going
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to jail.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: You know, people gone to jail. That's amazing. I didn't
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: know that. That's amazing. It's people to pipe like system
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: mis Sarah, Sarah, what's her name? Elizabeth was probably on
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: that list, right, she might have been the tiny thing.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: She was definitely on Forbes with the tiny thing.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm study under thirty though, but
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: just look up Forbes thirty under thirty prison You'll see
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking. So one of the first few results
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: of googling the the Mickelson Twins scam leads to a
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: post on publishing dot com itself where they trot people
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: who are looking for information about their scammery into listening
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: to their pitch again. So if you look up Nicholson
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Twin scam, it takes you right to publish a dot
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: com like Hey's.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And look, they even make it look like they're reviewing themselves.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: Absolutely legit because look at that post.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: That YouTube posts like this is always how you see
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: a post come up when you have a blogger who's
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: about to like ruin some social media stars life with
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: a bunch of tea that they.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Have on this it always looks like that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: That's like a title card.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they put that title card for them to put
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: out their own propaganda. That's smart, genius.
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: Honestly, no no presses, bad press.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, y'all us we might as well get involved.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: So Big Luca check it. Don't forget Big Luca was around?
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: What about I.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Forgot about Luca forgot about Big Luca.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot about's glory holeam not so first.
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: Baby, it's after I'm saying it.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: After he's that massive glorial career.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: So at first a Big Luca threatened to take the
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Michelsense to court for stealing his grift. Now, I don't know,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: you stole my crime and I'm taking you to court.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: But that's a video online when someone's like calls the
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: cops being like they took my math. You know what
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, Like they stole my math.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, there's no honor amongst these Yeah, it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: like I get to the bank to rob is somebody
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: there before me?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the court.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: So eventually, right he just he by saying this, he's
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: proving that his own brand is a grift because he's like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: you stole my ship. So now he runs Big Luca internationally,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: or more informally, school for the Rich. This is a
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: self described school as the world leading company in online
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: marketing training. It's supposed to teach you how to monetize
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: any online business. The self publishing black tricks used for
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: every other industry on the Internet. So on their website
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: it says the world's best company in monetization and online
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: marketing is ready to help you scale your business or
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: create a new one from zero. I'm sorry when I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: see the best, I'm instantly trigger to that orange man
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: the best company?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Did know who?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: It's it's yeah.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: I can't take a company called Big Luca International series,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: there's no and what makes you international?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Because it's not giving that.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: You are well he went to Mexico City one time,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: a technically international.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: Technically yes.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: So now the AI is around, it's easier than ever
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: to flood the whole digital ecosystem with trash and the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: pursuit of passive income, which we know to be true.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: And it's such a bummer that AI is destroying everything
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: that we love because it's like it's not helping. I know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: people are like, oh, I have an AI assistant and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: it helps me. I'm like, no, you're poisoning the planet.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: Just go hire a real person.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Having AI assistance or AI therapist or it's all really scary.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: It's so I just had this account follow me that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: was like twenty five different AI pictures of like a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: ten year old, Like and the ten year old was
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: just you know, being a dorky kid. But I was
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: like gross, like what that? What the hell is this?
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: What the hell is the purpose? The kid doesn't exist,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: the kid does not exist. But it was just like
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: twenty five pictures of a an Ai kid being a kid,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: and I was like, fucking ew, excuse my language, but like,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: what is this? What is this for?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: No, it's still sing.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: They're doing it to everything and everyone, Like Timberland even
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: had that fake Ai Asian woman who was putting on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: a black scent and doing music with Timbaland.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: For so many egregious things here. I don't know what
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: that artist's name was.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: What was her name?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was something crazy, I know.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I know, Timberland, Please, we stuck with you when.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: We just thought you were unproblematic and chilling. We didn't
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: know how you're when you were making fun of people
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: piano simblin Ai artists.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Because I can't think he called Doctor Dre a piano man.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: Timbland was like saying, like, I'm the better producer and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: you're just a piano man.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking, I don't know, I want to Elton John.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: John Yeah, and Billy Joe.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Joe it was.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Billy.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Her name is Tata, yes, Tata. She got pink hair, realize,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: red jacket, What do you mean realized? What does that mean?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: But her name Tata M and she read just like
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: you think she would. Yeah, so that's the world we
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: live in now. But what do you guys think of
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the scam? Do you like these scammers?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Do you dislike them?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: I don't like this scam. This is not a fun crime.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think with the AI involved it makes
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: it less fun. Other than that, I find it to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: be deeply unseerious. And I don't feel as much sympathy
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: for the victims here because maybe in twenty twenty I'll
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: feel a little more sympathy because everybody's trying to get
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: a job from home, and your job house was shutting down.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I can understand the simple that's a little bit more there.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: But before and after that, I'm like, A.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: You're saying their hustle is fair.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: No, okay, okay, I'm saying the victims I take pity
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: on them during twenty twenty, But after that, when we
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: started learning about AI and how harmful, it was like, yeah,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: I don't pity y'all. Like, if you want to pay
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: two thousand dollars to let a long necked Denmark man
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: talk to you from the dark of his home, then
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: you deserve to get rob That's the thing.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: It's like the red flags were everywhere, red flags asunder.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know why people were like falling into this
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: scam when there were so many signs to turn back.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: The dark room, the bed in the background, all of those.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, let's look a big look.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I had a clean background when he was telling people
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: about on exactly.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: Okay, wait what is this? Okay, well this is another
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: scammy video of them on YouTube.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, see they look ai to me. It's like I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: can't trust anything anymore.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And they got now they got techbro haircuts. Like, yeah,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: it's so gross.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: One's eating a banana. Rude. That's Rasmus trying to beat
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: the fishead rumors. He's like bananas that note.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: We always ask them this podcast, where would you like
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: to be found? Anything you want to plug?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Social Media's anything coming out? All that good stuff?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Yes? Oh well, listen to our podcast, drag Her Podcast.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: It's a available anywhere you find podcasts. It's a fun,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: dumb time. We're on Patreon as well because for the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: diehard drag Race fans. But a reminder. The podcast is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: for everybody. It's for anyone who just likes to hear friends.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: I recently had a conversation with someone who has never
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: watched Drag Race. Listens to our podcast.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: We have so much fun together and we fight like saiblings.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: We do.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great time. Go listen to that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 5: And you can follow Mono at Mono Gappion on Yeah Instagram.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 5: You can follow me at Osimo Ozzymo on Instagram. Is well,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: patreon dot com Slash Dragger podcast for the Patreon.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: That's it. I also want to shout out to Tyler Banks. Yes,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: we can we plug our drag show instead of Tyra Banks. No,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: and we are. We do.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 5: We do a show called Bad Drag Race where we
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 5: take Drag Race and we condense it to a three
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: month run at the Dynasty Typewriter. That's right with comedians
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: who are trying drag for the first time. It's really
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: fun to really do we drag and it's very crunchy,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: very station for that. Tyra and Tyra, I mean, you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: know Santa Smize right, yeah, oh my.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Goodness, which I mean she got her attention. I know
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: about her hot ice cream.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: Listen and the thing that I have to say, it's like,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: you know, we talked about Timbaland's like AI generated an artist,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: but Santa Smize should have been Ai.
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  Speaker 4: But Tyra said, no, I'm gonna that's an alter ego
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  Speaker 4: that I have.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna wear a piss ye cover yours piss yellow
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be sweaty and I'm gonna be doing stand
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  Speaker 3: up that makes no sense everyone. I'm comfortable and it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be amazing, And honestly, I love it because people
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  Speaker 3: own television show and she would like walk out and
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  Speaker 3: like have guests on, and she would trick them and
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  Speaker 3: put like foam in her mouth.
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  Speaker 1: She was having rap.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, never been serious.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all just forgot at this point.
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  Speaker 4: I got the documentaries out, the ANTM documentary right out now.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, and then the trailer it's like, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm ready to talk now. And then she blames us
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  Speaker 5: for her being so extra on the show. Yeah, She's like,
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  Speaker 5: you guys wanted more. It's your fault that I became
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  Speaker 5: this way. We love girls to switch races. Exactly why
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  Speaker 5: did you hit you up and.
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  Speaker 1: Said put that Asian lady in black. We did not
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  Speaker 1: tell you to do that.
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  Speaker 4: No one told you to scream at Tiffany the way
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  Speaker 4: you screamed at Tiffany.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is iconic.
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  Speaker 4: It's iconic.
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  Speaker 3: At the moment we were like yell at her, we
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  Speaker 3: were like cut that girl hair off in it.
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  Speaker 1: Sit her home immediately. We didn't tell you to do that, Tira.
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