Latest / The Next Round / The Next Round: NC State’s Epic Collapse, Mississippi State Surges + Georgia Looks Unstoppable | Hour 2

Transcript

The Next Round: NC State’s Epic Collapse, Mississippi State Surges + Georgia Looks Unstoppable | Hour 2 · The Next Round

0:00
Speaker 1: Hour number two of the next round presented by Hard
0:02
Speaker 1: Rock Bets here on Sporting State.
0:04
Speaker 2: Back to college football. We go here in a second.
0:07
Speaker 2: I want to remind you, you can jump in and
0:08
Speaker 2: enjoy all the fun with our friends at Hard Rock Bet.
0:13
Speaker 2: It is Florida's only legal sports book down there. And
0:17
Speaker 2: that means, of course, it's obviously the most trustworthy option
0:20
Speaker 2: in the market. But it also tells you they've got
0:23
Speaker 2: it dialed in perfectly, not just in the state of Florida.
0:26
Speaker 2: but also in Arizona, Colorado, if you're watching this today,
0:29
Speaker 2: out in the Mile High State.
0:31
Speaker 3: Hello, Becca.
0:31
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching.
0:32
Speaker 2: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, or Virginia, they
0:38
Speaker 2: too are home to Hard Rock Bet, and you can
0:40
Speaker 2: be a part of it with new features and app
0:42
Speaker 2: updates and promos. The best place to get more information, hardrock.bet.com.
0:46
Speaker 2: And on Mondays, you can.
0:53
Speaker 2: Enjoy You Choose Mondays. You choose a same-game parlay profit
0:57
Speaker 2: boost or a no-sweat bet, and you use it for
1:00
Speaker 2: Monday's game coming up. All that at hardrock.bet backslash clay,
1:05
Speaker 2: hardrock.bet backslash clay. Back to college football, LT. Pick a
1:10
Speaker 2: game we've yet to talk about so far in college football.
1:13
Speaker 2: Hour one, we hit heavy on LSU going into Oxford
1:17
Speaker 2: and getting spanked, the old BTS game. BTA, excuse me,
1:21
Speaker 2: of Ole Miss to LSU. They love to talk like that.
1:24
Speaker 2: A lot of belt popping going on in the stands
1:26
Speaker 2: over there. We hit on Alabama a little. We hit
1:29
Speaker 2: on Kentucky's big win at Texas A & M. Where
1:31
Speaker 2: are we going next?
1:32
Speaker 5: Well, I cannot believe what I saw in Nashville.
1:36
Speaker 3: All right.
1:37
Speaker 1: I knew we were going to get to it.
1:37
Speaker 3: On Saturday with NC State and Vanderbilt.
1:39
Speaker 5: Hey, look, it's so difficult for these guys to bust
1:42
Speaker 5: their ass and get prepared for a game. And you
1:46
Speaker 5: lead every single second of that game until the last second.
1:51
Speaker 5: And you blow that game. I just I don't understand it.
1:54
Speaker 5: They were up 17 nothing in the first half. They
1:57
Speaker 5: were up 17 in the second half.
2:00
Speaker 3: And what Dave Durham was doing and.
2:03
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, I would have put C.J. Bailey
2:06
Speaker 5: in because I was talking it out in that scenario.
2:09
Speaker 5: Had a couple of people over. Like, get him the snap.
2:12
Speaker 5: The one thing you've got to do, though, is avoid contact.
2:15
Speaker 3: Correct. Like, he's the best athlete. He can run around
2:18
Speaker 3: as long as he doesn't see contact. I mean, a
2:19
Speaker 3: couple of things. Should have been holding. The entire time.
2:22
Speaker 3: Because if you hold, worst case, you're just.
2:25
Speaker 1: Let's come back to that.
2:25
Speaker 6: Okay.
2:25
Speaker 1: Let's come back to that.
2:26
Speaker 3: You're going to... But you didn't even need to do that.
2:28
Speaker 3: I mean, there was five seconds on the clock.
2:30
Speaker 1: Six, I think. The same.
2:31
Speaker 7: Five, six.
2:32
Speaker 3: And I cannot believe they put the second back on.
2:35
Speaker 8: Yeah.
2:35
Speaker 3: And that clock was different. Like, that was such.
2:37
Speaker 1: Here we go again.
2:38
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this. Was it ACC officials?
2:41
Speaker 3: I thought it was.
2:41
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think normally when you go
2:44
Speaker 1: on the road, you take your officials.
2:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, so why we didn't have the transparency of the
2:48
Speaker 5: ACC replay.
2:49
Speaker 1: I thought it was ACC officials.
2:51
Speaker 3: I thought it was ACC on the road.
2:53
Speaker 1: It depends on the contract of the game.
2:56
Speaker 3: Can't take contact there.
2:57
Speaker 1: To your point of C.J.
2:58
Speaker 2: Bailey, you're supposed to stand near the back line, and
3:02
Speaker 2: you can move around on the back line, Dan Orlovsky,
3:05
Speaker 2: without stepping out of bounds. And when they get close
3:07
Speaker 2: to you, you step out. I want to know how
3:10
Speaker 2: much that's been repped and then how many times. I mean,
3:14
Speaker 2: you can sit there and have a 30-minute conversation with C.J.
3:17
Speaker 2: Bailey on the sidelines. Until he understands what we're trying
3:20
Speaker 2: to do, you can take a delay of game penalty.
3:21
Speaker 2: You don't care how far you're going back.
3:23
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter.
3:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then your other thing on Morgan pointed this
3:27
Speaker 2: out on Monday Morning Live. Every offensive lineman should have
3:30
Speaker 2: been told, just tackle people.
3:32
Speaker 1: That is incorrect.
3:34
Speaker 9: Why?
3:34
Speaker 1: All right, I have reached it. No, it's in the
3:36
Speaker 1: end zone. It's holding in the end zone, so that's
3:38
Speaker 1: two points.
3:39
Speaker 3: Are you going to say they can put clock time
3:40
Speaker 3: back on the clock?
3:42
Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on. I reached out to Steve Shaw,
3:45
Speaker 1: now part of the ABC crew, because I thought the
3:47
Speaker 1: same thing. Steve's doing a great job with Herbstreet and Fowler.
3:50
Speaker 1: And I asked him point blank. I was like, correct
3:52
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here, but if every NC State
3:55
Speaker 1: player just tackles the Vandy defender, clock runs out, And
4:02
Speaker 1: one of two things happens. Either it's hold and you
4:04
Speaker 1: accept the penalty, take the safety game over, or you
4:07
Speaker 1: decline the penalty, game over. Steve said, not true. In
4:10
Speaker 1: those situations, that converts to an unsportsmanlike conduct. And you
4:15
Speaker 1: would have a 15-yard and have to play the play over.
4:18
Speaker 1: So I thought the same thing. But there's still no
4:21
Speaker 1: time on the clock.
4:22
Speaker 3: No, he can't. No, the time.
4:25
Speaker 1: He said it specifically. So they would put six seconds
4:28
Speaker 1: back on and play it again? Got to play it again.
4:30
Speaker 1: Steve said, the holding calls convert to unsportsmanlike conduct fouls.
4:35
Speaker 1: The clock is reset to the time it displayed at
4:37
Speaker 1: the snap. They could not end the game that way.
4:40
Speaker 4: Wow.
4:40
Speaker 1: That sounds like a specialty rule.
4:42
Speaker 3: I would have learned that rule if I was Dave Dern.
4:44
Speaker 1: Me too, because I would have done the same thing.
4:47
Speaker 1: That's what I've always thought when you're taking the safety tear,
4:49
Speaker 1: your guys are holding the end zone. Worst case is
4:52
Speaker 1: they've got to take the safety.
4:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was very Mario Cristobal at the end of
4:55
Speaker 3: the game. Look, I mean, C.J. Bailey shouldn't have fumbled,
4:57
Speaker 3: but he went into contact. That's the one thing.
5:00
Speaker 5: You can't be touched. I don't care how long. You
5:02
Speaker 5: hold the ball as long as you're not going to
5:04
Speaker 5: be touched. Once you're going to be touched, step out
5:06
Speaker 5: of the back of the end zone.
5:06
Speaker 2: Because at that point, it's two seconds maybe. If they
5:08
Speaker 2: just get to you that quickly, it's two seconds. And
5:10
Speaker 2: he's got a big arm. What happens if he chunks
5:13
Speaker 2: the ball down the field?
5:14
Speaker 1: But even on a free kick, we're going to burn up.
5:18
Speaker 1: The two seconds. That's right. You can't kick it out
5:21
Speaker 1: of bounds because you have to kick it again. But
5:23
Speaker 1: if you can get it on the ground, you've got
5:24
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance of a big guy getting it.
5:27
Speaker 5: That's the only way you lose that game. And for
5:29
Speaker 5: them to go to a separate clock, because I went
5:31
Speaker 5: back and did it, when he finally got possession, it
5:35
Speaker 5: was zeros on there. They went back and they pulled
5:38
Speaker 5: a Michigan. They put a second on the clock and
5:40
Speaker 5: they kicked the extra point. They ended up covering it.
5:42
Speaker 5: It cost me from a 6-6 weekend– I mean, I
5:46
Speaker 5: would have been 7-5 to 6-6.
5:47
Speaker 3: It's a big difference.
5:49
Speaker 1: Big difference. I talked to a former Division I football
5:54
Speaker 1: player about it, and he said, because he reached out
5:57
Speaker 1: to me, he's like, did you see the ending of
5:58
Speaker 1: that game? I was like, yeah, I did. And he's like,
6:00
Speaker 1: where you always get in trouble in college football is
6:02
Speaker 1: when you do stuff you never do. You try to
6:05
Speaker 1: do stuff you never do. And he's like, I get
6:06
Speaker 1: not wanting to punt there, but you know what you
6:08
Speaker 1: do every single day? You practice punting. And he goes,
6:11
Speaker 1: they probably never practiced that. Like, why do you spend
6:14
Speaker 1: time in practice practicing that? And I guess you don't
6:16
Speaker 1: want to. But that's only coaches, though.
6:18
Speaker 5: Like you talk about simulating like in practice, if you
6:21
Speaker 5: run that play and I bet they have like we're
6:24
Speaker 5: in this situation.
6:25
Speaker 3: CJ, you're going to take this and you're going to
6:27
Speaker 3: take the same.
6:27
Speaker 1: I don't know.
6:28
Speaker 5: Well, if you simulate it, the one thing you're not
6:29
Speaker 5: going to do is have contact and practice on your quarterback.
6:31
Speaker 1: That's right.
6:32
Speaker 3: So like the one thing is we can't have any
6:34
Speaker 3: physical contact.
6:35
Speaker 1: And you got plenty of time to explain it. Hey,
6:38
Speaker 1: no contact. Stand at the back line.
6:40
Speaker 2: Avoid it when they get close step out backwards and
6:42
Speaker 2: whatever time's left we'll take it out to the 20
6:44
Speaker 2: now i think that's where it is yep and then
6:46
Speaker 2: we'll free kick that thing and then 11 of us
6:49
Speaker 2: are going to go try to tackle them and uh
6:51
Speaker 2: and the game's going to be over yeah.
6:52
Speaker 5: And if you get beat on a bunch of laterals
6:54
Speaker 5: and dave duran's just like i'll chalk it up to
6:56
Speaker 5: a bet like there's no way cj bailey has slept
6:59
Speaker 5: there's no way dave duran has slept You know, you
7:01
Speaker 5: had the terrible week one loss to Virginia. And I
7:04
Speaker 5: still talked about it. I think this NC State team
7:06
Speaker 5: is still going to be good based on their schedule.
7:08
Speaker 5: But to lose that game in the fashion they did.
7:10
Speaker 5: And Jared Curtis, I'll say this, he's going to be
7:12
Speaker 5: really good. Like, he turned the ball over. He kind
7:14
Speaker 5: of played like Sam Levin in spots. Like, he runs downhill.
7:18
Speaker 5: Careless with the football. That late pick was awful.
7:21
Speaker 1: That's the worst beat, though, not gambling-wise. I lost two, though,
7:25
Speaker 1: in my pick three. I was on NC State. So
7:27
Speaker 1: maybe that's why we lost this game. It only happens
7:30
Speaker 1: to me.
7:30
Speaker 5: No, that's the worst beat I've ever had. I could
7:33
Speaker 5: give you two other ones that were right there with it,
7:35
Speaker 5: but that is the worst I have ever had as
7:36
Speaker 5: a gambler in my 40 years.
7:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just in losing a football game, you mentioned
7:43
Speaker 2: not taking a knee, crystal ball in Miami. That would
7:46
Speaker 2: make your top five.
7:46
Speaker 3: Oh, it was terrible.
7:47
Speaker 2: The Michigan-Michigan State rivalry game, the punt. But, I mean,
7:51
Speaker 2: even that, that's a punt. Well, the punter just dropped
7:54
Speaker 2: the ball. Things can happen.
7:57
Speaker 1: But this, to me, is the worst way to lose a.
8:02
Speaker 2: Game of all time. It's worse than fourth and 31.
8:05
Speaker 2: It's the worst thing ever.
8:06
Speaker 5: I know you guys were watching at the end. Unfortunately,
8:08
Speaker 5: I watched the entire game, like every snap.
8:11
Speaker 1: It was a yucky game.
8:12
Speaker 5: Because NC State's one of my ten teams, and I
8:14
Speaker 5: had them. It was my first game of the day.
8:16
Speaker 5: But it was 1,000 degrees. It was, on record, the
8:19
Speaker 5: hottest game ever in that stadium. So you grind it out.
8:22
Speaker 5: You lead every second of the game until the final second.
8:25
Speaker 1: That's right. And you're trying to do something you don't
8:27
Speaker 1: normally do, and you screw it up. And that's where
8:30
Speaker 1: that one's going to stick with you. I don't know.
8:34
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get over it.
8:35
Speaker 5: I know you think I think Dave Duren is the
8:37
Speaker 5: Mark Stoops of NC State football.
8:39
Speaker 3: He has done a really solid job there. I'd fire him.
8:41
Speaker 3: If they're looking for a reason to fire him. I'd
8:43
Speaker 3: fire him. That's a fireable offense to me.
8:47
Speaker 8: Jim, have I ever told you the story of how
8:49
Speaker 8: we lost in the victory formation in high school?
8:51
Speaker 1: That's hard to do, bro. It's never come up in
8:54
Speaker 1: our conversation. You're talking about worst ways to ever lose.
8:57
Speaker 8: We fumbled the snap in victory formation yesterday. The quarterback
9:01
Speaker 8: bent down to pick up the football and accidentally kicked
9:04
Speaker 8: it through the entire line's legs. The safety for Rome
9:07
Speaker 8: High School picks it up and runs it back for
9:09
Speaker 8: a touchdown, and we lost.
9:10
Speaker 3: That's a bad beat right there.
9:11
Speaker 1: We all saw Herm Edwards and the Giants and the Eagles.
9:14
Speaker 1: That's a bad one. This is worse than that. That's
9:16
Speaker 1: why you've got the victory formation. Nobody ever did victory
9:19
Speaker 1: formation right before that.
9:20
Speaker 5: I think in all the right moves, I think Tom Cruise,
9:22
Speaker 5: the reason he wasn't on the bus, because I think
9:25
Speaker 5: they lost in a rain situation in victory formation.
9:27
Speaker 3: That's right. It was down around the goal line.
9:31
Speaker 1: Was that a penalty on him that kept it alive
9:34
Speaker 1: or something?
9:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, pass interference. I still can't believe what we saw
9:39
Speaker 5: on Saturday. I just cannot believe they put all of
9:43
Speaker 5: this work into it. Clark Lee is such a classy guy.
9:46
Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw it after the game,
9:48
Speaker 5: the interview. He's like, give NC State credit. They beat
9:52
Speaker 5: us today. They were the better team. They asked him
9:55
Speaker 5: about celebrating. He was like, look, these games, to win
9:57
Speaker 5: a game in college football is really difficult. I'm going
9:59
Speaker 5: to let these guys celebrate because they deserve it. You know,
10:01
Speaker 5: we found a way to win this game.
10:03
Speaker 3: It felt like a loss. It's crazy because they're not
10:05
Speaker 3: very good, and they're 3-0.
10:06
Speaker 8: I know.
10:06
Speaker 2: Here is Clark Lee after the game talking about Vandy's win.
10:11
Speaker 10: Just looking at the clock, I knew that we were
10:13
Speaker 10: going to– we had timeouts. I think we had two
10:14
Speaker 10: left at the time. I knew that we were going
10:17
Speaker 10: to be able to force them to a fourth down.
10:19
Speaker 10: you know, and, um, again, it came down to, to
10:23
Speaker 10: the six seconds there. And, um, yeah, I mean, I,
10:28
Speaker 10: I can't put into words how I felt. I can't
10:31
Speaker 10: put into words how I felt when I realized that
10:34
Speaker 10: we had, as that play extended, I thought we're going to.
10:39
Speaker 3: Get the ball out and we got the ball out.
10:42
Speaker 10: And, um, then you wait for the review and, and
10:46
Speaker 10: it's just like, I don't know, man. So there's so
10:50
Speaker 10: many things about the game that I don't want to
10:52
Speaker 10: remember on the walls of the facility. But I think
10:54
Speaker 10: what I'm proud about is the fight to the very
10:56
Speaker 10: end and every blade of grass and all those things.
10:58
Speaker 10: And so in that way, it's a very special, special win.
11:00
Speaker 5: You know, he had a field goal blocking on that
11:02
Speaker 5: final game. So they were collapsing down. And that's another thing.
11:06
Speaker 5: Like if you're Dave Duren and you see that, take
11:08
Speaker 5: a penalty. Like, what's he going to do? Figure out
11:11
Speaker 5: what you really are doing offensively on that final play.
11:14
Speaker 1: Take every delay a game you can take until you've
11:16
Speaker 1: got this right. Until everybody knows exactly what we're doing.
11:19
Speaker 1: Because how far are they moving the ball in that
11:21
Speaker 1: delay a game?
11:22
Speaker 3: That's right.
11:22
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not even moving the ball, basically. At
11:24
Speaker 1: some point, they can't. And by the way, you're wanting
11:26
Speaker 1: to get... You want the ball to end up in
11:27
Speaker 1: the end zone where you hold it, so you don't
11:29
Speaker 1: care how close they get. Just a terrible way to
11:31
Speaker 1: lose that game. Brownie, pick us another game. I forgot
11:35
Speaker 1: it was my pick.
11:36
Speaker 3: My apologies.
11:37
Speaker 1: Um... I wouldn't go to Lance. Lance, pick another one. Lance,
11:40
Speaker 1: pick another one.
11:41
Speaker 3: Let's go.
11:41
Speaker 1: I got caught up in the excitement.
11:43
Speaker 3: Camario Taylor.
11:43
Speaker 5: I was unsure what was going to happen in Columbia
11:46
Speaker 5: just based on the fact that there was all this momentum,
11:49
Speaker 5: but great players find a way to win even if
11:52
Speaker 5: the gambling public is behind them.
11:53
Speaker 3: And that's what you saw with Camario Taylor.
11:55
Speaker 2: 16-0. They're down 16-0. We've all been to that place
11:59
Speaker 2: in Columbia. We know what a tough, tough place it
12:03
Speaker 2: is to play. And then your Mississippi State, I mean,
12:06
Speaker 2: what was Levy?
12:07
Speaker 10: 1-2.
12:07
Speaker 2: 12, something like that, in SEC games, and you're down 16-0.
12:14
Speaker 1: And they pick it up, and they're coming back. And
12:16
Speaker 1: it looked like what everybody was saying about you. We've
12:19
Speaker 1: anointed this Camario Taylor a little too early, haven't we?
12:22
Speaker 1: Same old Mississippi State.
12:25
Speaker 3: Same old Mississippi State.
12:26
Speaker 5: This kid, man, like you know he can run it,
12:30
Speaker 5: there's no doubt, but his touch that he puts on it,
12:34
Speaker 5: he's just got one of those– He's got every pitch.
12:38
Speaker 1: That's what everybody keeps saying.
12:40
Speaker 3: He's got every pitch.
12:40
Speaker 5: Absolutely, because he can put touch on it. He throws
12:43
Speaker 5: a great deep ball. When he needs to throw an
12:46
Speaker 5: out and have a little bit of something on it,
12:48
Speaker 5: he does it. Didn't really use the legs on Saturday
12:51
Speaker 5: because he didn't have to. He was too busy spinning
12:54
Speaker 5: it around for the four touchdowns. Did have the one pick.
12:57
Speaker 5: I like Jeff Lebby. I don't know where you guys
12:58
Speaker 5: are on him.
12:59
Speaker 1: I've always liked him.
13:00
Speaker 3: He's got him a quarterback. This has been the difference.
13:03
Speaker 1: I've always liked Lebby. I just thought he took one
13:05
Speaker 1: of the toughest jobs in the SEC. And I thought
13:08
Speaker 1: he was showing promise, but the record was just never
13:10
Speaker 1: going to catch up with that, and it was going
13:12
Speaker 1: to end up probably costing him like it does a
13:13
Speaker 1: lot of coaches. No, not so. They're 3-0, and they've
13:17
Speaker 1: got a chance to make some real noise.
13:18
Speaker 5: And he's got an underrated running back in Fluff Buffalo.
13:21
Speaker 3: 115 yards. I mean, Camario is really, really good.
13:25
Speaker 1: Pretty good receiving core.
13:27
Speaker 3: Are you going to have the money to keep him
13:29
Speaker 3: next year?
13:29
Speaker 6: That's it.
13:30
Speaker 2: That's the joke on social media while Mississippi State's playing games.
13:34
Speaker 2: If you ever jump on Twitter while they're playing– everyone's like, man,
13:39
Speaker 2: not Mississippi State fans, man, that guy's going to look
13:41
Speaker 2: good in Miami's.
13:42
Speaker 3: Orange and green next year.
13:44
Speaker 1: He's going to look good for Miami next year.
13:45
Speaker 5: They've got like a quarterback liaison where, hey, look, this
13:48
Speaker 5: is your job is just to scout out quarterbacks the
13:50
Speaker 5: entire offseason because we're going to go steal somebody's quarterback.
13:54
Speaker 5: But now what is a quarterback worth? Are they worth
13:56
Speaker 5: $ 8 million?
13:57
Speaker 3: Maybe.
13:58
Speaker 2: This guy with this size and all the pitches. If
14:01
Speaker 2: he finishes, if he sticks to the landing, 100%. He
14:03
Speaker 2: could be our first $ 10 million player.
14:05
Speaker 5: You know, we told people last week with these Mississippi
14:08
Speaker 5: State tickets not being expensive in two weeks for Alabama,
14:11
Speaker 5: go on and buy them.
14:12
Speaker 3: But this is a dangerous game coming up this weekend,
14:14
Speaker 3: is it not, for Mississippi State?
14:15
Speaker 1: They're sick. I mean, think about this.
14:17
Speaker 2: Mississippi State is now ranked, a little rat poison, they're 24th.
14:21
Speaker 2: They're playing Missouri, who is 19th. So it's a top
14:25
Speaker 2: 25 matchup in Starkville. A week ahead of Alabama, and
14:29
Speaker 2: I've got friends who are already talking about, I'm going
14:31
Speaker 2: to stay in Alabama. I'm going to be there for that.
14:33
Speaker 2: We're going to get Bama this year. We're going to
14:35
Speaker 2: get Bama this year. And they're almost a touchdown favorite
14:38
Speaker 2: against 19th-ranked Missouri.
14:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
14:41
Speaker 5: Still, that's a really, really dangerous game because if you
14:44
Speaker 5: watch Missouri squeak by Troy, they did nothing. They were
14:46
Speaker 5: 2 of 11 on third downs. They showed nothing offensively.
14:50
Speaker 5: It's almost like Eli Drinkwitz knew how difficult this game
14:53
Speaker 5: in Starkville was going to be.
14:54
Speaker 1: We are to the point, though, and Texas A &
14:56
Speaker 1: M Kentucky is a great example of this, that college
14:58
Speaker 1: football with the portal and all of this has turned
15:01
Speaker 1: into the NFL in this aspect. One week's results do
15:04
Speaker 1: not indicate the next at all. Like Kentucky gets run
15:07
Speaker 1: out of their stadium in the second half by Alabama
15:10
Speaker 1: and then turns around and goes and dominates A & M.
15:12
Speaker 1: Like that was not a fluke victory for them. They
15:14
Speaker 1: dominated A & M. And State plays the way they played.
15:17
Speaker 1: They could turn right around and lay an egg against Missouri.
15:20
Speaker 1: Does not surprise me at all.
15:21
Speaker 5: After the Minnesota win, I said I've got this feeling
15:24
Speaker 5: that that game's going to be really difficult for Alabama.
15:26
Speaker 5: I've got a feeling Mississippi State wins the game. Alabama
15:28
Speaker 5: fans got really upset, stupid comment, whatever. Do you think
15:31
Speaker 5: Alabama fans are nervous now?
15:34
Speaker 2: Maggie asked me after the Florida State game, she's like
15:38
Speaker 2: 50 to 36. Why are you not more upset? You
15:41
Speaker 2: didn't think it was going to be that close, did you?
15:43
Speaker 2: And I was like, I am at the point now
15:46
Speaker 2: where there is no Saturday. I just assume Alabama is
15:49
Speaker 2: going to win. No Saturday, including South Carolina this weekend.
15:53
Speaker 2: And I don't care what the final score is and
15:55
Speaker 2: how it looks getting there. A win is a win
15:58
Speaker 2: is a win. It's very NFL-like. It doesn't matter what
16:00
Speaker 2: the score is.
16:01
Speaker 1: That's right. You just get to the win now.
16:02
Speaker 2: Just get the win and celebrate the win. And that's
16:05
Speaker 2: exactly what you were saying. The parity is spread out
16:09
Speaker 2: so much, especially in the SEC. It doesn't matter what
16:12
Speaker 2: the score is.
16:13
Speaker 1: Just go win.
16:13
Speaker 3: Let's just say that Alabama wins by 14. I'm putting these.
16:17
Speaker 3: If you ask the robot a final score, they're going
16:19
Speaker 3: to give you right at the spread. Of course they are.
16:21
Speaker 5: So let's say that Alabama wins by 14, Mississippi State
16:23
Speaker 5: wins by 7.
16:24
Speaker 3: At that point.
16:25
Speaker 1: That's what Bama fans want.
16:26
Speaker 5: I think Alabama is a six-point favorite in Starkville.
16:29
Speaker 1: I think, and my believer, I believe, is the one
16:32
Speaker 1: that said it right here in the chat. I'd have
16:33
Speaker 1: to dig back. Chat's moving fast. But he's right. I
16:35
Speaker 1: think if you're a Bama fan, you want them beating Missouri.
16:38
Speaker 1: Get them as high as ranked as they could be.
16:41
Speaker 1: as confident as they can be, that's a better formula,
16:44
Speaker 1: I think, for you as an Alabama fan going over there.
16:46
Speaker 5: Did the Mississippi State game get more difficult than A &
16:47
Speaker 5: M for Alabama?
16:49
Speaker 1: I personally don't think so. I don't either.
16:53
Speaker 2: Because of the talent on the field. But again, when
16:56
Speaker 2: you start looking around the SEC, there are 10 teams
16:58
Speaker 2: that are ranked. I mean, Texas, Tennessee, Georgia. Even when
17:03
Speaker 2: you play Oklahoma, their defense. Ole Miss, Florida. South Carolina
17:07
Speaker 2: still has got some dudes. Bama, A & M, LSU, Missouri,
17:11
Speaker 2: Mississippi State. Auburn ain't that bad. Vanderbilt ain't that bad. No,
17:16
Speaker 2: I mean, other than Arkansas.
17:18
Speaker 1: It's like the NFL. When we do NFL schedules, everybody's
17:22
Speaker 1: got a tough schedule in the NFL. And you do
17:23
Speaker 1: that in the SEC right now. Other than Arkansas. Other
17:26
Speaker 1: than Arkansas. Well, they're just the Dolphins. The Arkansas Dolphins.
17:29
Speaker 1: Their schedule's tough because they're the worst team.
17:30
Speaker 3: Imagine this. If Oklahoma had Kamario Taylor.
17:34
Speaker 1: They would trade N.A. Harvey right now.
17:36
Speaker 2: All right, more college football coming up. But if you're wondering,
17:41
Speaker 2: 10 SEC teams in the AP poll this week. There
17:46
Speaker 2: are seven Big Ten, four Big 12, three ACC, and
17:49
Speaker 2: one Notre Dame. That's your AP Top 25. Ten, and
17:54
Speaker 2: that includes Mississippi State, ranked after week three. Here's Jeff
17:58
Speaker 2: Lebbe after the win on the road, and now they
18:02
Speaker 2: go home. for a couple of games.
18:05
Speaker 6: I know that 3-0 probably isn't a huge surprise to
18:09
Speaker 6: you because you know what you have on this team,
18:11
Speaker 6: but have you learned anything about this team that you
18:14
Speaker 6: might not have already known about them, or is this
18:17
Speaker 6: exactly what you expected?
18:18
Speaker 3: This is exactly what I expected.
18:20
Speaker 7: This was the expectation for everybody in that locker room
18:23
Speaker 7: every single day. I knew or I thought I knew
18:27
Speaker 7: how we would respond. But, again, until you go do it,
18:30
Speaker 7: you don't really know. And, again, that's the thing that
18:33
Speaker 7: I'm most proud of. We're going to have to do
18:35
Speaker 7: the same thing at some point coming up over the
18:39
Speaker 7: next nine weeks. That's the reality of playing in this conference. But, man,
18:44
Speaker 7: there should be great belief from our guys. There is
18:46
Speaker 7: great belief in just settling in. reset play the next
18:51
Speaker 7: play go find a way to win because we got
18:52
Speaker 7: good football.
18:53
Speaker 1: Players locker room absolutely bumping they got any bass in
18:56
Speaker 1: that speaker in the locker room.
18:58
Speaker 5: If you're trying to project them out though I mean
19:00
Speaker 5: how many wins now it's so.
19:01
Speaker 1: Hard I mean they were 3-0 last year but these
19:04
Speaker 1: are better wins than they were last 3-0 last year
19:06
Speaker 1: lost heartbreakers to Tennessee and Texas at home I feel
19:10
Speaker 1: like those types of games they're going to win some
19:12
Speaker 1: of those I mean You start looking at the remainder
19:14
Speaker 1: of their schedule.
19:15
Speaker 5: I think they've got Vanderbilt, Auburn, and Tennessee Tech. So
19:18
Speaker 5: I think that puts them at six. I'll give them
19:20
Speaker 5: a split coming up at home, seven.
19:22
Speaker 3: They might get eight wins.
19:23
Speaker 1: I mean, they catch Oklahoma at home. Yeah, I would
19:25
Speaker 1: take them over. If they played Oklahoma at home Saturday,
19:28
Speaker 1: I'd like to stay in that game. Oklahoma's broken on offense.
19:31
Speaker 1: And I think Camario Taylor, as good as Oklahoma's defense is,
19:34
Speaker 1: can move the ball.
19:34
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think seven or eight is your number, which is,
19:37
Speaker 5: I mean, that's fantastic.
19:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great job. And on the other side
19:40
Speaker 1: of that, real quick, I think the clock could start
19:43
Speaker 1: ticking now, potentially, on Beamer. That was a devastating loss
19:46
Speaker 1: for him. And they're they're about to start stacking up
19:48
Speaker 1: some losses too potentially in sec play uh levy is
19:51
Speaker 1: 2 and 15 shane beamer is now 16 and 25
19:56
Speaker 1: just in sec play yeah i mean i again it's
19:59
Speaker 1: one of those deals where you want to say i
20:01
Speaker 1: don't know what south carolina fans.
20:03
Speaker 5: I mean, 16-25 for South Carolina is about what I
20:06
Speaker 5: would expect.
20:06
Speaker 1: But fans anymore are not willing to say, yeah, that's
20:09
Speaker 1: who we are. We're 16-25. That's who we are. In
20:11
Speaker 1: the NIO world, they're not willing to say that.
20:13
Speaker 3: But, you know, as a home favorite, you're up double digits.
20:15
Speaker 3: That's a game you shouldn't lose.
20:17
Speaker 1: And it's still that logo. It's still Mississippi State.
20:20
Speaker 2: And I give Jeff Lebby credit, by the way, that
20:22
Speaker 2: he's embracing the interlocking MSU. It is a much better
20:25
Speaker 2: logo than the banner M, which I think they're doing
20:29
Speaker 2: away with. I even like the script state, even though
20:32
Speaker 2: it's a very musical S.
20:34
Speaker 1: That is a triple cliff, isn't it?
20:36
Speaker 2: But that MSU, man, that interlocking MSU is a legit logo.
20:41
Speaker 2: Love that a lot, and Levy embraces it.
20:43
Speaker 5: Real quick, South Carolina, you know, they're 2-1 right now.
20:45
Speaker 5: I think they have a better chance of losing every
20:48
Speaker 5: game moving forward than they do of getting bowl eligible.
20:51
Speaker 3: For sure.
20:53
Speaker 1: There again, that's why the clock might be ticking.
20:55
Speaker 2: That's Shane Beamer in South Carolina who is on a
20:59
Speaker 2: hot seat. There's no two ways about it. And a
21:02
Speaker 2: little bitty kid, I mean, had to be like 11,
21:04
Speaker 2: got caught on TV during the broadcast. And they were
21:08
Speaker 2: showing him cheering in the stands. And all the kid,
21:10
Speaker 2: all you can hear is the kid saying, fire Beamer,
21:13
Speaker 2: fire Beamer. And he's like 11 years old.
21:16
Speaker 3: Kids like to repeat what their parents say.
21:18
Speaker 1: His old man is going to say that. And put
21:20
Speaker 1: dinner on the table. Fire Beamer and put dinner on
21:23
Speaker 1: the table. When we come back, more college football. This
21:26
Speaker 1: is the next round presented by Hard Rock Bets on
21:29
Speaker 1: Sporting State.
21:30
Speaker 3: Back with you on the next round.
21:31
Speaker 2: Always brought to you by Hard Rock Bet. Go download
21:34
Speaker 2: that app and see if you're available. Hardrock.bet backslash clay. Florida, Colorado, Arizona, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,
21:43
Speaker 2: and Virginia. Before Brownie finally picks a game for us
21:48
Speaker 2: to talk about, I did want to ask, will this
21:52
Speaker 2: be the first time? This is something you can look up, Brooks.
21:54
Speaker 2: You'll have to go back and research things. Will this
21:57
Speaker 2: be the first time College Game Day has back-to-back pickers
22:03
Speaker 2: with the same first name. Last week, Morgan Freeman.
22:09
Speaker 1: Oh.
22:09
Speaker 2: Is there a chance we get Morgan Wallen this week
22:12
Speaker 2: in Knoxville? And will that be the first time we
22:15
Speaker 2: ever go back-to-back first name Morgan Morgan in back-to-back week
22:18
Speaker 2: on College Game Day?
22:19
Speaker 3: Probably so.
22:20
Speaker 5: This is the first game day that I was all
22:24
Speaker 5: in on because I wanted to see Morgan Freeman pick.
22:27
Speaker 3: You didn't get a lot from him.
22:28
Speaker 10: No.
22:29
Speaker 1: Morgan's showing his age, unfortunately.
22:30
Speaker 3: But he's 89 years old.
22:32
Speaker 5: To be able to walk up on the stage and
22:34
Speaker 5: even have a conversation is pretty impressive.
22:36
Speaker 1: He's still got a presence, though. Morgan Freeman does. I
22:38
Speaker 1: think he's beloved. He had some funny lines. He did.
22:41
Speaker 1: He did. Actually, I think he made an appearance on
22:44
Speaker 1: this week's SEC Shorts as well.
22:46
Speaker 3: Oh, did he really?
22:47
Speaker 5: No, it's hard for him to get any words in
22:49
Speaker 5: because the McAfee guy talks all the freaking time.
22:51
Speaker 1: He is the energy of the show, I think. I
22:53
Speaker 1: don't know why he kept calling himself a turncoat. I
22:55
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out what he meant by that. I don't
22:56
Speaker 1: know if he was just hung up on that word
22:58
Speaker 1: or something.
22:59
Speaker 5: I think it was when he was going to give
23:01
Speaker 5: out Mississippi State as a play.
23:02
Speaker 1: Maybe that was it, but he kept going back to it.
23:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was fun seeing him there, and he
23:07
Speaker 2: seemed to have a good time, as all Ole Miss
23:09
Speaker 2: folks did this past weekend. Tell us about Clay Travis Law, LT,
23:13
Speaker 2: and we'll– continue our college football conversation.
23:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, accidents do not wait for a good time. One
23:18
Speaker 5: bad decision, or one bad moment, I should say. A wreck,
23:21
Speaker 5: a fall, a doctor who wasn't paying attention. Suddenly, you're
23:24
Speaker 5: fighting an insurance company that does this every single day.
23:27
Speaker 5: That's why Clay started Clay Travis Law.
23:29
Speaker 3: Built a firm around one idea.
23:31
Speaker 5: People deserve someone willing to pay attention, ask the hard questions,
23:34
Speaker 5: and push back when things don't add up. Experienced trial
23:36
Speaker 5: attorneys who bring the fight to corporations and insurers based
23:40
Speaker 5: in Nashville, trusted across the country. They lead negotiations with
23:43
Speaker 5: with honesty, determination, and some Southern grit. Car and truck wrecks,
23:47
Speaker 5: rideshare accidents, medical malpractice, case evaluation, absolutely free. No charge,
23:53
Speaker 5: no pressure, no hassle. Just tell them your story. Go
23:55
Speaker 5: to claytravislaw.com. Or call 877-222-4444. That's ClayTravisLaw.com. No case too
24:03
Speaker 5: big or too small.
24:04
Speaker 1: One obvious one on the board, Brownie. Let's see if
24:06
Speaker 1: you go to it. If I may step out of
24:07
Speaker 1: the SEC for a moment. Have I stepped out of
24:09
Speaker 1: the SEC? Is that the obvious one?
24:10
Speaker 5: It is.
24:11
Speaker 1: And go to a Top 25 matchup Friday night, Houston
24:14
Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. That was not the obvious one. You
24:16
Speaker 1: were thinking I was going to go a little SMU.
24:17
Speaker 1: That's a good one. First of all, Connor Wegman's a
24:21
Speaker 1: fantastic quarterback. He's the best quarterback you're probably not watching
24:24
Speaker 1: enough if you're not watching a lot of Houston, and
24:26
Speaker 1: he made some spectacular throws in this game. My takeaway
24:28
Speaker 1: from this game, though, 28-26, Texas Tech wins at home.
24:32
Speaker 1: Houston went for two to try to force overtime, couldn't convert.
24:35
Speaker 1: Very close. Game of inches. Very much is a game
24:39
Speaker 1: of inches, and they got the call right, but Texas
24:41
Speaker 1: Tech's flying too close to the sun. This team is
24:44
Speaker 1: not what we thought this team was going to be.
24:46
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they can't still win the Big 12, but
24:49
Speaker 1: for anybody that thought they were just going to walk
24:50
Speaker 1: through undefeated and be the obvious Big 12 champion, that
24:54
Speaker 1: is not going to happen with this Texas Tech team.
24:56
Speaker 5: I agree with you, and we had Houston plus the
24:59
Speaker 5: points on Friday night. I thought that they might get
25:00
Speaker 5: the outright win, but when you start to look at
25:02
Speaker 5: the schedule... They get Arizona State, Arizona, and West Virginia
25:07
Speaker 5: at home. Their most difficult road game is probably.
25:09
Speaker 3: At Oak State.
25:10
Speaker 1: This game was at home, too, and they darn near
25:12
Speaker 1: lost it.
25:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Houston is pretty good. I mean, they're a
25:15
Speaker 5: top 25-ish team.
25:17
Speaker 1: Still there.
25:17
Speaker 2: Number 25 in the AP poll didn't drop out. First
25:21
Speaker 2: of all, you fall behind. Now you've got to come back.
25:24
Speaker 2: I thought it was good for Joey McGuire and that
25:27
Speaker 2: team to show a little intestinal fortitude and have to
25:31
Speaker 2: rally back.
25:32
Speaker 7: Yeah.
25:34
Speaker 2: Castellanos is going to have a pretty big role, I believe,
25:38
Speaker 2: down the road. It started shaky, unfortunately, for him.
25:40
Speaker 1: No, no, absolutely. That first time he came in. That's
25:42
Speaker 1: who he is, though. Yeah, I mean, that's true. That's
25:44
Speaker 1: kind of what you have to deal with with him, right?
25:46
Speaker 1: But I think you're going to have to have two
25:48
Speaker 1: quarterbacks all year long. But unfortunately for Castellanos, you do
25:51
Speaker 1: have to deal with that some. You did at Florida State.
25:53
Speaker 1: But if he's playing an entire game, he makes up
25:55
Speaker 1: for those bad plays. But if you use him in
25:56
Speaker 1: spot duty, he might not get to make up for
25:59
Speaker 1: those bad plays. And that was kind of the case
26:01
Speaker 1: Friday night. Yeah, they did run it a little bit
26:03
Speaker 1: more with Wilton.
26:04
Speaker 5: Hammond yeah you know i mean they survived and again
26:08
Speaker 5: that's probably their second most difficult game.
26:10
Speaker 1: They might be it might be the most difficult opponent
26:13
Speaker 1: that they play all year.
26:14
Speaker 5: Yeah they're gonna be a fugazi they're gonna get to
26:16
Speaker 5: probably the big 12 championship game not being good yeah
26:20
Speaker 5: and then get exposed maybe against byu or utah.
26:23
Speaker 1: Yeah probably one of those one of those they don't
26:25
Speaker 1: play in the regular season.
26:25
Speaker 2: Maybe the winner of the holy war i will say
26:27
Speaker 2: this though that Texas Tech's defense, they're not going to
26:32
Speaker 2: be as good as they were last year. They looked
26:33
Speaker 2: a little bit better with White and Trick coming off
26:37
Speaker 2: the edges, just a little bit better against that good
26:39
Speaker 2: Houston offense. All right, LT, I'll pick a game here.
26:42
Speaker 2: Let me go to SMU and Louisville, that game of
26:47
Speaker 2: two top 25 teams.
26:49
Speaker 1: And this is caught in the moment, caught in the moment, Jim,
26:55
Speaker 1: but Louisville can play with Miami.
26:59
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. They beat them last year.
27:01
Speaker 5: I mean, you've got stock up, stock down coming later
27:03
Speaker 5: in the show, but I've got a stock up, and
27:06
Speaker 5: it has to do with Louisville, and I've got a
27:08
Speaker 5: stock down, and it has to do with Miami.
27:10
Speaker 1: I need to change my stock up because my stock
27:12
Speaker 1: up was Louisville as well. But let me point out,
27:13
Speaker 1: they don't get Miami until potentially the championship game.
27:16
Speaker 2: No, I know, but everybody's saying Miami, Miami, Miami. This
27:20
Speaker 2: Louisville team only lost to Ole Miss in a heck
27:23
Speaker 2: of a game. They had a chance to win that one. Lance,
27:27
Speaker 2: Keen Holtz and the running backs, they play physical on defense.
27:31
Speaker 2: I like everything I see about this Louisville team.
27:34
Speaker 5: I told you guys with Mendoza this is easier because
27:38
Speaker 5: people are watching, but Keen Holtz might end up being
27:40
Speaker 5: a Heisman finalist this year. He's my favorite quarterback to
27:43
Speaker 5: watch right now. The moments have not been too big.
27:46
Speaker 5: He has been great. And then when you've got Keen
27:48
Speaker 5: Holtz and his ability to run the football, Keewon Brown
27:51
Speaker 5: and Isaac Brown. Isaac Brown, 8.8 yards per carry last year.
27:56
Speaker 5: Kiwan Brown averaged 16 yards a carry on Saturday, going
28:00
Speaker 5: 163 yards with a couple of touchdowns. I mean, they
28:02
Speaker 5: can run the football. The Kevin Jennings turnover on the
28:06
Speaker 5: goal line was a killer.
28:07
Speaker 1: That's what you get with Kevin Jennings. Kevin Jennings is
28:09
Speaker 1: going to make us... I can't remember the guest we had.
28:12
Speaker 1: It was like Kevin Jennings is like, oh, wow, oh, wow, oh, wow, oh, no.
28:16
Speaker 1: I mean, that's who he is.
28:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, three turnovers on the road against Louisville. That was
28:20
Speaker 3: the difference.
28:20
Speaker 6: Yeah.
28:21
Speaker 1: Now, when you talk about Louisville, not that this matters
28:23
Speaker 1: because they've got to win the ACC and they're eventually
28:25
Speaker 1: going to have to play Miami. But stop me when
28:27
Speaker 1: you hear a game you don't think Louisville's going to
28:29
Speaker 1: win right here, guys. They host Wake.
28:31
Speaker 3: Not ranked.
28:32
Speaker 1: You're going to read a lot of not ranked teams here.
28:34
Speaker 1: There will not be a top 25 team I'm about
28:36
Speaker 1: to mention at NC State.
28:38
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know where NC State's going to be.
28:40
Speaker 1: How do they dig themselves up? Host Florida State, at Syracuse,
28:44
Speaker 1: host Stanford, at Georgia Tech, at North Carolina, host Pitt.
28:49
Speaker 1: And what might be their toughest remaining game is at Kentucky.
28:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the game was at Pitt, it would be
28:53
Speaker 3: somewhat difficult. But yeah, I agree. I mean, I think
28:55
Speaker 3: they're probably going to run the tape.
28:57
Speaker 1: I mean, they've played their two ranked teams, Ole Miss
28:59
Speaker 1: and SMU, and that may be it.
29:00
Speaker 5: Now, what would be interesting is if they are 11-1
29:03
Speaker 5: and they lose to an undefeated or a one-loss Miami team.
29:05
Speaker 1: They're not going to have any good wins.
29:07
Speaker 3: I still think they get in.
29:09
Speaker 1: Atlanta still have zero good wins.
29:10
Speaker 3: Because their loss would be against Ole Miss and then Miami.
29:12
Speaker 2: And SMU is going to end up still being a
29:14
Speaker 2: good win. SMU will not fall apart. They will win
29:16
Speaker 2: a lot of games. I hope not for Rhett. We
29:18
Speaker 2: like Rhett Lashley on this show. I was pulling for
29:20
Speaker 2: him in that game. But Louisville's the better team.
29:23
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I think it's pretty apparent, whatever
29:27
Speaker 1: attention you're paying to the ACC, Miami's your best team,
29:29
Speaker 1: and I think Louisville's your second best team in the ACC.
29:31
Speaker 3: I would say that.
29:33
Speaker 1: With Virginia having lost at West Virginia.
29:34
Speaker 5: And I think what people will say is, go back
29:36
Speaker 5: to last year, like the ACC at that point would
29:38
Speaker 5: get two in they'd get an at-large and they'd get
29:40
Speaker 5: your your conference champion in and if I'm if I'm
29:44
Speaker 5: Jeff Brom I would go back and I would tell
29:46
Speaker 5: the committee hey you didn't even want Miami from the
29:48
Speaker 5: ACC in last year and they played.
29:50
Speaker 3: For the national championship you're sleeping on our.
29:52
Speaker 1: Conference yeah now but.
29:54
Speaker 3: Whether that's true or not probably not I do.
29:56
Speaker 1: Think I do think it sets up for them Clemson
29:58
Speaker 1: is no good I mean, they switched to Tate Reynolds,
30:01
Speaker 1: didn't really change anything. I know they won the game
30:03
Speaker 1: after a massive weather delay, but they're no good. He
30:05
Speaker 1: got better as the game went on.
30:07
Speaker 3: He did.
30:08
Speaker 1: He did. I don't know if you saw the play
30:09
Speaker 1: that ended the game, though, pretty much. I mean, Clemson's
30:12
Speaker 1: up one, but they run a, I thought it was
30:14
Speaker 1: a terrible play call by Chad Morris, and somehow it
30:17
Speaker 1: ends up working, that reverse. And it's completely blown up,
30:20
Speaker 1: and somehow the guy just cuts it back up the middle,
30:22
Speaker 1: and nobody touches.
30:23
Speaker 3: Him for North Carolina. Yeah, Clemson's got a lot of
30:24
Speaker 3: losses coming up.
30:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're no good. I don't think North Carolina's any good.
30:28
Speaker 1: I still think Virginia's pretty good, but West Virginia beat
30:30
Speaker 1: them up a little bit there in Charlotte.
30:31
Speaker 3: Well, West Virginia was almost stock up for me.
30:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:34
Speaker 5: Because I Rich Rod seems like he has got the
30:37
Speaker 5: closest thing to Pat White and Steve Slate in his
30:39
Speaker 5: head when you look at Cam Cook and Michael Hawkins
30:42
Speaker 5: and the way they're running that offense right now.
30:44
Speaker 3: That's an exciting, fun team in the Big 12.
30:46
Speaker 2: Let's let that be another pick. We'll talk about that
30:48
Speaker 2: West Virginia-Virginia game because that was a win over a
30:51
Speaker 2: top 25 team. You bring up the zone read offense
30:55
Speaker 2: run attack that they had back in Pat White's day,
30:58
Speaker 2: Michael Hawkins, and then Cam Cook, who did it at
31:01
Speaker 2: Jack State just down the road from us here, He
31:04
Speaker 2: carried it 30 times for 123 against a really good
31:07
Speaker 2: Virginia defense. That was a fun game in Charlotte. 38-27,
31:10
Speaker 2: West Virginia wins it.
31:11
Speaker 1: Understandably, you didn't pay attention to Cam Cook at Jacksonville State.
31:13
Speaker 1: I get that, but he was the nation. I'm not
31:15
Speaker 1: saying you guys. I'm talking about the audience. People didn't
31:17
Speaker 1: watch him at Jacksonville State, but he was the nation's
31:19
Speaker 1: leading rusher for a large part of last year. And,
31:22
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is no flash in the pan.
31:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, their ability to run the football, I mean,
31:27
Speaker 5: it's not what you had 2006 West Virginia against. But
31:31
Speaker 5: it's pretty close, 247 yards on the ground against that
31:34
Speaker 5: really physical Virginia team. That was an impressive win.
31:37
Speaker 2: And you get a home game with Oklahoma State as
31:40
Speaker 2: they jump into Big 12 play this week for West Virginia.
31:42
Speaker 3: That'll be a great game. It's right out of pick.
31:44
Speaker 1: Right out of pick. Give me another game. In Morgantown,
31:48
Speaker 1: that game's out of pick?
31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:50
Speaker 1: That's respect for Oklahoma State.
31:52
Speaker 6: I know.
31:53
Speaker 5: And back to what you guys were talking about, how
31:55
Speaker 5: this is NFL-like with the parody week in, week out.
31:58
Speaker 5: Still don't know how Oklahoma State lost that game to Tulsa.
32:02
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State's good.
32:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Pick one. See what you come up with.
32:07
Speaker 5: You know, you talk about the Big Ten and how
32:11
Speaker 5: it doesn't come close week in, week out to the SEC.
32:13
Speaker 1: They played no games last week.
32:14
Speaker 5: How does USC– they've got to go all the way
32:16
Speaker 5: to New Jersey to take on Rutgers, and now they've
32:18
Speaker 5: got to come back to the Coliseum to take on
32:20
Speaker 5: a ranked Oregon team.
32:22
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of that game you guys watched.
32:23
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I wasted my big screen on that.
32:27
Speaker 3: Terrible atmosphere.
32:28
Speaker 2: Well, first off, tell me about your defense because there were–
32:33
Speaker 2: How many drives of 75 yards for a touchdown?
32:35
Speaker 1: Five of them?
32:36
Speaker 3: They couldn't. I mean, K.J.
32:37
Speaker 5: Duff, that receiver for Rutgers, he was a stud last year.
32:40
Speaker 5: Nobody knows about him because Rutgers is so bad. But Lonergan,
32:44
Speaker 5: former Alabama quarterback, turned it over too many times, but
32:47
Speaker 5: he was good. Yeah, they were able to sustain drive
32:50
Speaker 5: after drive after drive.
32:53
Speaker 2: Gary Patterson didn't stay in Los Angeles, right? The defensive
32:55
Speaker 2: coordinator went to Jersey and still put.
32:59
Speaker 1: That out there?
32:59
Speaker 3: On the Lance's Log Show on Friday night, I did
33:01
Speaker 3: bring this up.
33:02
Speaker 5: And I stayed away from the game, but I was like,
33:05
Speaker 5: take Rutgers plus the points, and here's why.
33:08
Speaker 3: Before the win at.
33:09
Speaker 5: Purdue last year, USC had lost nine consecutive games in
33:12
Speaker 5: the Eastern time zone. They just don't play well there,
33:15
Speaker 5: and they look lethargic again.
33:17
Speaker 2: Well, at least you brought your prophet with you because
33:19
Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Prophet Brown and that, what was it,
33:22
Speaker 2: a 99-yard kick return?
33:24
Speaker 1: It ends up being the difference of the game.
33:26
Speaker 5: Well, Trent Mosley didn't play. Your best playmaker on offense,
33:29
Speaker 5: but still no excuse.
33:30
Speaker 1: Is he going to be back for Oregon?
33:32
Speaker 3: Maava was really, really good again. Is Mosley going to
33:34
Speaker 3: be back for Oregon? I think so.
33:35
Speaker 5: I think they rested him purposely for Rutgers, not thinking
33:38
Speaker 5: they would need him.
33:39
Speaker 6: Yeah.
33:39
Speaker 3: Got a little closer there.
33:41
Speaker 1: A little closer than you wanted that to be.
33:42
Speaker 3: But I joke around like that shouldn't be a game.
33:44
Speaker 5: That's a game where you've got so many athletes you
33:47
Speaker 5: should go and you should, you know, wipe.
33:49
Speaker 3: The field with them.
33:50
Speaker 5: And now Rutgers 0-3 for the first time since 2008.
33:53
Speaker 5: But truthfully, that's coaching.
33:56
Speaker 1: You didn't have your players prepared, whether it's mentally or physically.
34:01
Speaker 1: I mean, fake punt. They get a fake punt. Rutgers
34:04
Speaker 1: does from their own goal line.
34:06
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:06
Speaker 2: And you guys aren't ready for that. And That was
34:09
Speaker 2: a team that wasn't focused on the job at hand.
34:11
Speaker 5: Well, and they should have dominated up front. One sack
34:13
Speaker 5: against that Rutgers offense. I mean, it was just a
34:15
Speaker 5: piss-poor performance, and you hope that they were holding back.
34:20
Speaker 2: It reminded me a lot of what Oregon put on
34:21
Speaker 2: tape at Oklahoma State. They didn't seem like mentally they
34:25
Speaker 2: were checked into that game because Oklahoma State had lost
34:27
Speaker 2: to Tulsa, and they got it handed to them, and
34:29
Speaker 2: now these two schizophrenic teams play a meaningful game at
34:32
Speaker 2: the Coliseum, one of the best games of the week.
34:35
Speaker 2: And I saw where Oregon opened as a skinny three-point favorite.
34:38
Speaker 3: Is that about where it is?
34:39
Speaker 5: It was USC opened as a one-and-a-half-point favorite. It flipped around.
34:42
Speaker 5: Now I'm seeing Oregon one-and-a-half.
34:44
Speaker 2: One-and-a-half is where it is now. So that's one of
34:47
Speaker 2: the two, three, four of a great weekend coming up.
34:49
Speaker 2: That's one of the two, three, four biggest games.
34:51
Speaker 5: I don't know how you guys feel about that, but
34:53
Speaker 5: back to the Gary Patterson defense. Total yards, USC 461,
34:57
Speaker 5: Rutgers 460. If you give up 460 yards to Rutgers,
35:01
Speaker 5: and now you've got an Oregon team that is fighting
35:04
Speaker 5: for their lives.
35:04
Speaker 7: I mean, if.
35:05
Speaker 5: Oregon drops two games before September's out.
35:08
Speaker 1: All I could think about, though, as Rutgers kept hanging in,
35:11
Speaker 1: is we have had two 20-plus point dogs win outright
35:15
Speaker 1: in the first two weeks of college football, one per week.
35:18
Speaker 1: And this was that game. And I'm like, man, if
35:20
Speaker 1: Rutgers finds a way to shock USC right here, to
35:23
Speaker 1: have three of those happen in the first three weeks
35:25
Speaker 1: is crazy.
35:26
Speaker 2: Close enough to me with Kentucky, 16 points on the
35:29
Speaker 2: road as a top 10 team.
35:30
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
35:31
Speaker 2: All right, a couple more games as we wrap up.
35:35
Speaker 2: Hard Rock Bet's next round today right here on Sporting State.
35:40
Speaker 2: Back with you on the next round here on Sporting
35:42
Speaker 2: State brought to you by Hard Rock Bet. Available in
35:45
Speaker 2: Florida and several other states. Go log on and check
35:49
Speaker 2: them out. Before I tell you about Crockett Coffee, last
35:52
Speaker 2: week of the Major League Baseball season happening this week,
35:56
Speaker 2: we'll tell you about the Braves coming up in the
35:58
Speaker 2: next round and show you a little celebration there. We'll
36:00
Speaker 2: also get into Auburn and their first loss of the season,
36:04
Speaker 2: Florida's win. That'll be in the opening segment and more
36:07
Speaker 2: on Alabama's win. And when we go to the next round,
36:10
Speaker 2: we invite you. Obviously, you'll stay live with Clay and Buck.
36:14
Speaker 2: But when Clay and Buck is done at some point
36:16
Speaker 2: tonight or whatever, two more hours of the next rounds
36:18
Speaker 2: available to you.
36:19
Speaker 1: At Next Round Live.
36:21
Speaker 2: You can go watch that on YouTube or any of
36:23
Speaker 2: our platforms on social media at Next Round Live. And
36:26
Speaker 2: when you jump on a new platform for us, whether
36:29
Speaker 2: it's on X, Twitter, whether it's on Instagram, Facebook, or
36:32
Speaker 2: of course on YouTube, make sure you follow us or
36:35
Speaker 2: subscribe to us or give us a thumbs up or like,
36:38
Speaker 2: whatever you can do there. That helps us out tremendously
36:41
Speaker 2: as we grow the platform and we appreciate you doing
36:44
Speaker 2: that so much. And we appreciate to find folks at
36:46
Speaker 2: Crockett Coffee as well, CrockettCoffee.com. Enjoying a big Yeti cup
36:52
Speaker 2: full over here right now. And listen, you can set
36:55
Speaker 2: up a subscription. It shows up on schedule. You can
36:58
Speaker 2: change it or cancel it anytime you want. You're not
37:01
Speaker 2: locked into anything. It's the way the free market was
37:04
Speaker 2: intended for you to have options. They'll ship free to
37:08
Speaker 2: you of any order that's over $ 59 or more. And
37:11
Speaker 2: at Crockett Coffee, they also have partnered with Tunnel to Towers,
37:15
Speaker 2: building a mortgage-free home For families of fallen service members
37:19
Speaker 2: and those injured veterans and first responders. It's good coffee,
37:23
Speaker 2: made in America, doing some good. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton,
37:27
Speaker 2: Buck's brother Mason, they came up with this. And you
37:29
Speaker 2: can get it in all of the roasts, light.
37:32
Speaker 1: Medium, or dark.
37:32
Speaker 2: Decaffeinated, organic, mushroom blend, whole bean, ground, K-cup. See it
37:37
Speaker 2: all online at CrockettCoffee.com. That's C-R-O-C-K-E-T-T, CrockettCoffee.com. NFL tonight, Giants
37:48
Speaker 2: and Rams. That'll be a fun game tonight to wrap
37:51
Speaker 2: up week two of the NFL season. Back to college
37:55
Speaker 2: football we go. We'll save Auburn for the start of
37:59
Speaker 2: the next round. Can I throw out Georgia? I was
38:03
Speaker 2: picking that one, Georgia-Arkansas.
38:04
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
38:05
Speaker 1: Georgia-Arkansas, 45-17. They've played nobody yet.
38:11
Speaker 3: But the.
38:15
Speaker 2: The way they attack their day-to-day operations against nobody, Georgia
38:19
Speaker 2: looks so buttoned up to me right now. Well, you
38:22
Speaker 2: got out of that game, listen to this now, on
38:24
Speaker 2: the road in the SEC, and your quarterback only had
38:28
Speaker 2: to throw 13 passes.
38:29
Speaker 1: I mean, think about that.
38:29
Speaker 3: 254 on the ground.
38:32
Speaker 1: I know, but they treated that game like they were
38:33
Speaker 1: playing Marshall at a conference in Athens. I mean, that's
38:38
Speaker 1: the kind of numbers Gunnar Stockton would get in a game,
38:41
Speaker 1: you know, at a conference like that.
38:42
Speaker 3: 10 of 13, 147.
38:44
Speaker 1: That was it.
38:45
Speaker 3: Yeah.
38:46
Speaker 5: But, you know, Frazier, Bowens. I mean, they've got so
38:48
Speaker 5: many guys that can run the football. Their defense held
38:51
Speaker 5: Arkansas to 17 rushing yards. Georgia, again, they haven't played anybody.
38:57
Speaker 5: So Texas did have the comeback against Ohio State. But,
39:00
Speaker 5: I mean, looking at these two teams, I think Georgia's.
39:02
Speaker 3: The better team.
39:02
Speaker 1: They're just demolishing people.
39:03
Speaker 2: We'll show you tomorrow. our new SEC power rankings. But
39:08
Speaker 2: I don't care. I test to me, Georgia still looks really,
39:12
Speaker 2: really good. We'll see if they stay top of our
39:14
Speaker 2: SEC power rating this week. For Kirby Smart, I know
39:18
Speaker 2: eventually he understands how the SEC works. The schedule is
39:22
Speaker 2: going to become much more difficult. Oklahoma this week at home,
39:26
Speaker 2: he gets asked about blowout games after the win.
39:29
Speaker 5: In your experience when you start the season with three blowouts,
39:34
Speaker 5: are you able to still learn quite a bit about
39:36
Speaker 5: your team when you have these type of games?
39:39
Speaker 11: I don't know that I would call that a blowout.
39:40
Speaker 11: I mean, y'all might say that, but I don't look
39:43
Speaker 11: at SEC games that way. I mean, they're trying to
39:45
Speaker 11: score the whole game. We're trying to stop them the
39:46
Speaker 11: whole game. I don't even know what the score says.
39:48
Speaker 11: I couldn't tell you the score right now. I don't
39:50
Speaker 11: look at the scoreboard. I look at how we play
39:52
Speaker 11: and never look at the scoreboard. So when you look
39:54
Speaker 11: at the scoreboard, it affects things that are out of
39:56
Speaker 11: your control a lot of times. So obviously situationally we'll
39:59
Speaker 11: look at the scoreboard, but I'm not measuring our team
40:02
Speaker 11: based on scores. I'm measuring our team based on execution.
40:05
Speaker 11: Every week's a test. I mean, every week's a test, right?
40:08
Speaker 11: This team could have not shown up today. This team
40:09
Speaker 11: could have read the newspaper clippings and all the stuff
40:12
Speaker 11: about Arkansas and all that. I mean, it's a nameless,
40:15
Speaker 11: faceless opponent. We've got eight weeks in a row, man.
40:18
Speaker 11: So strap it on.
40:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so far through three games, he's attacked it
40:24
Speaker 2: exactly that way. His guys have attacked it that way,
40:27
Speaker 2: and that's so impressive to me that there's no... I mean,
40:30
Speaker 2: USC is so much better than Rutgers. You know what
40:33
Speaker 2: I'm saying?
40:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're right. They come prepared.
40:36
Speaker 4: It is.
40:37
Speaker 3: the closest thing along with Cignetti and what Indiana is
40:40
Speaker 3: doing right now.
40:41
Speaker 5: To what you saw with Saban. And to me, Georgia
40:44
Speaker 5: is the best team in college football right now. Like
40:46
Speaker 5: the best resume is Ole Miss.
40:48
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
40:48
Speaker 3: But the best team in college football is Georgia.
40:50
Speaker 2: And at some point, Indiana is going to get their
40:53
Speaker 2: chance to prove that they're as good as they were
40:55
Speaker 2: last year. Ohio State is really good. Texas has got
40:59
Speaker 2: that win over Ohio State.
41:00
Speaker 1: They're really good. But these guys are taking care of business,
41:02
Speaker 1: and they'll get their chance to show us how good
41:04
Speaker 1: they are. On the flip side of that.
41:06
Speaker 3: But I think they're improved.
41:07
Speaker 5: You know, those other teams you're talking about, like Indiana's
41:10
Speaker 5: a step behind where they were last year.
41:12
Speaker 2: And to your point, they look deeper. Their twos look
41:17
Speaker 2: as good as their ones. This is almost old school depth.
41:20
Speaker 2: And I want to see if that holds up against
41:23
Speaker 2: real competition because they look, like you said, I agree.
41:26
Speaker 2: They look better than they did last year. because they
41:28
Speaker 2: look deeper than they do.
41:29
Speaker 5: I know you guys are going to laugh about this.
41:31
Speaker 5: They are going to have a scare this weekend, though,
41:33
Speaker 5: against Oklahoma.
41:34
Speaker 3: They are.
41:36
Speaker 5: They haven't seen the team's speed at Oklahoma through their
41:39
Speaker 5: first three weeks.
41:41
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's going to drag you to the execution chamber, Liz.
41:44
Speaker 1: Don't let them do it, man. Don't let them do it.
41:45
Speaker 1: This is a trash Oklahoma team. This is a trash
41:51
Speaker 1: Oklahoma team.
41:53
Speaker 3: I mean, elite defense.
41:55
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you can't play offense. Even Brent
41:58
Speaker 1: Venables after the game, they ask him, we may have
42:00
Speaker 1: the cut. I don't want to step on it if
42:01
Speaker 1: we do. But they ask him, is there anything your
42:04
Speaker 1: offense can hang your hat on?
42:06
Speaker 3: It's so good.
42:08
Speaker 1: Coach, is there anything your offense can hang your hat
42:10
Speaker 1: on right now?
42:10
Speaker 3: And Venables wants to say something.
42:12
Speaker 1: He wants to say something. But he's like, I can't
42:15
Speaker 1: be disingenuous. He goes, not really.
42:17
Speaker 5: And I don't know how you can flip that.
42:21
Speaker 3: In the middle of the season. You can't.
42:22
Speaker 1: They are what they are. They've still got Arbuckle, and
42:24
Speaker 1: they've still got Mateer.
42:26
Speaker 2: Here's cut 17, and then, Forrester, after this, get the
42:30
Speaker 2: pregame video I sent you from Oklahoma, too, because Lance
42:32
Speaker 2: needs to see that because his Sooners are not as
42:35
Speaker 2: buttoned up as he thinks they are.
42:36
Speaker 1: Here's Brent Venables. Do you think you have something you
42:40
Speaker 1: can hang your hat on offensively that right now that
42:44
Speaker 1: when your offense goes out there, you say to yourself.
42:47
Speaker 9: All right, I know we can do this well. Do
42:48
Speaker 9: you have that?
42:49
Speaker 4: Not really. You know, you watched the game. Did you
42:54
Speaker 4: see anything? No, but you know football. No, I mean,
42:58
Speaker 4: obviously we haven't done that. We haven't gotten to a rhythm,
43:00
Speaker 4: you know, with really much of anything. But, you know,
43:05
Speaker 4: we're just too erratic and not consistent enough, not enough
43:09
Speaker 4: rhythm to what we're doing. And even the, you know,
43:15
Speaker 4: we're our own worst enemy. We have the worst penalties
43:17
Speaker 4: at the worst times, it seems like, you know, really.
43:21
Speaker 4: We get the ball with good field position, and then
43:23
Speaker 4: we get a false start, and then we get a hold.
43:26
Speaker 4: Next thing you know, we're punting again. Nothing wrong with
43:31
Speaker 4: the opponent making plays, and you're going to get got.
43:34
Speaker 4: That's going to be part of football. But when we're
43:38
Speaker 4: getting in our own way, whether it's discipline or just
43:43
Speaker 4: the lack of focus, that's very discouraging.
43:45
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, and I didn't watch this game live.
43:48
Speaker 2: I went back and shuttled through it. last night, he
43:53
Speaker 2: chewed Ben Arbuckle at one point. He gave an old,
43:58
Speaker 2: what are we doing?
43:59
Speaker 1: To him on the sidelines.
44:00
Speaker 5: They're doing is they're putting their defense on harm's way.
44:04
Speaker 5: I mean, New Mexico was 3-14 on third downs, but
44:07
Speaker 5: minus three in turnovers for Oklahoma.
44:09
Speaker 3: That's what kept the game close. And if you go
44:11
Speaker 3: back to the Michigan game, If Mateer doesn't have that
44:13
Speaker 3: bad read on that pick. That's what he does. Yeah,
44:15
Speaker 3: there's a good chance they win that game.
44:17
Speaker 5: So anyway, my point is, I think you can win
44:19
Speaker 5: with great defense, but you can't have your offense making
44:23
Speaker 5: mistakes that put you in a bad situation.
44:24
Speaker 1: And I get what you're saying, but you can't say
44:26
Speaker 1: if Mateer doesn't make a bad read because that's what
44:28
Speaker 1: Mateer does. And that's why they're in this situation. They
44:30
Speaker 1: picked the wrong quarterback and they also picked the wrong
44:34
Speaker 1: coordinator because they picked that wrong quarterback. And this is
44:38
Speaker 1: that offense. I don't know that you can fix it.
44:40
Speaker 1: It is so broken.
44:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to also talk about broken Arkansas.
44:44
Speaker 2: If you can give me cut 18, Tyler. This would
44:48
Speaker 2: bother me a little bit if I was an Arkansas
44:50
Speaker 2: fan that we're to this point. And I just want
44:53
Speaker 2: you to picture in your head that we could have
44:59
Speaker 2: the chairman of the college football playoff selection committee, the
45:04
Speaker 2: guy who goes out every week and tells us why
45:06
Speaker 2: we've ranked everybody, and he could also be unemployed while
45:10
Speaker 2: he's doing that. Because Hunter Urechek is, again, the chair
45:14
Speaker 2: of the college football playoff committee. More time to watch
45:18
Speaker 2: the games if he's unemployed. Everybody I talk to at Arkansas,
45:21
Speaker 2: the frustration is not with Ryan Silverfield. It's with Hunter
45:25
Speaker 2: Urechek because he's been talking about basically being a poverty
45:29
Speaker 2: program at Arkansas, and we're not a poverty program. Before
45:36
Speaker 2: the game and then after the game, the trustees of
45:40
Speaker 2: Arkansas have announced– that they want to do a massive
45:43
Speaker 2: review of the state of competitiveness in their athletic department,
45:48
Speaker 2: which is going to fall right at Hunter Urchak's feet
45:52
Speaker 2: that he hasn't been raising enough money. And basically, this
45:57
Speaker 2: is what's going to open up the wallets of all
46:00
Speaker 2: the big Arkansas people that they're tired of looking the
46:04
Speaker 2: way they've looked on national television, the blowout to Utah,
46:07
Speaker 2: the blowout to Georgia the last two weeks. And they're
46:09
Speaker 2: about to do a review of the state of competitiveness.
46:13
Speaker 2: Here's Ryan Silverfield on his frustration. Then I want you
46:15
Speaker 2: guys to tell me what you would do at Arkansas.
46:20
Speaker 1: Here's Ryan Silverfield.
46:22
Speaker 9: Ryan, what is your own self-reflection, your emotions, personal frustration,
46:26
Speaker 9: just given that as a college coach, you've never had
46:28
Speaker 9: to deal with this kind of struggle?
46:29
Speaker 1: That's right.
46:30
Speaker 3: You're right.
46:31
Speaker 9: But in 28 years of this deal, You fight fights, right?
46:35
Speaker 9: I mean, I've been kicked in the teeth. I've been
46:37
Speaker 9: knocked down before in this deal. If you're in this
46:39
Speaker 9: thing long enough, you know, you've dealt with adversity. And
46:43
Speaker 9: so this is not my first taste of adversity. Now,
46:46
Speaker 9: we've had some success in the past, and I think
46:48
Speaker 9: that's one of the reasons why I'm here. But what
46:49
Speaker 9: it does for me is if anybody's around me, you'll
46:53
Speaker 9: see me tomorrow and you'll say, man, he doesn't look
46:58
Speaker 9: like a guy that's getting beat up in the media.
46:59
Speaker 9: He doesn't look like a guy that the house is
47:02
Speaker 9: burning down around.
47:03
Speaker 3: Hell no.
47:04
Speaker 9: I'm going to get off the damn mat like I
47:05
Speaker 9: do every day, win, lose, or draw, and keep swinging.
47:08
Speaker 9: I'm not going to sit here. Am I pissed?
47:11
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
47:12
Speaker 9: Damn straight, I'm pissed off.
47:14
Speaker 3: But guess what?
47:15
Speaker 1: We're going to get this fixed.
47:16
Speaker 9: And I've got great, great faith in everybody involved that
47:18
Speaker 9: this thing is going to get turned around.
47:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody involved is the key there, not just the players.
47:23
Speaker 1: But he needs help.
47:25
Speaker 2: He's got the— the least amount of money spent on
47:28
Speaker 2: a roster than anybody else in the SEC. And you
47:31
Speaker 2: guys have either done it last week or are going
47:33
Speaker 2: to do it this week. When you start doing the
47:37
Speaker 2: 1 through 16 in our SEC power ranking, you can
47:40
Speaker 2: go all the way to 15 and you've got a
47:42
Speaker 2: damn good football team.
47:43
Speaker 1: It's hard going to 15. 16 is where I start
47:46
Speaker 1: every week. I know who 16 is. When I send
47:50
Speaker 1: it to Brooks, the one thing I don't have to
47:51
Speaker 1: change is 16. We're about to talk Auburn in our
47:53
Speaker 1: next segment. You're very close to putting Auburn at 15
47:57
Speaker 1: right now.
47:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could.
47:59
Speaker 2: And that's a team that's invested in the future with
48:02
Speaker 2: their football program. Vandy has made an investment. Here comes State,
48:06
Speaker 2: now nationally ranked. why is Arkansas not in the fight?
48:11
Speaker 2: That's what I'd be asking. I took this job.
48:12
Speaker 1: Are we not going to fight? Give me some money.
48:15
Speaker 3: Let's go.
48:16
Speaker 5: And that's the problem because if you're a checks out,
48:18
Speaker 5: he's the guy that hired him. You don't have– I mean,
48:21
Speaker 5: when you're doing quarterback rankings, KJ Jackson is going to be–
48:24
Speaker 5: Dead last.
48:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably is dead last. They've got Tulsa at home.
48:29
Speaker 1: Tough game.
48:30
Speaker 3: It really is.
48:31
Speaker 5: They should win that game. I'm going to give them
48:34
Speaker 5: a win, but they're not winning another game.
48:35
Speaker 3: So they're 2-10.
48:37
Speaker 5: When you're losing your AD that hired you, I could see,
48:40
Speaker 5: even with a deck stacked against.
48:41
Speaker 3: Him, not fair, but I could see him get fired.
48:44
Speaker 5: I don't know what the buyout looks like, but if
48:46
Speaker 5: you really want a clean slate, if you're doing this
48:47
Speaker 5: deep dive... That's not going to be the new AD's
48:50
Speaker 5: guy anyway.
48:50
Speaker 1: It's gotten toxic. I mean, you've got the golf course
48:53
Speaker 1: offering up tee times. You've got the fans that actually
48:55
Speaker 1: did wear bags. The fans that were there. Walmart bags,
48:59
Speaker 1: by the way.
48:59
Speaker 5: Did you guys see before they were showing tailgates, there
49:04
Speaker 5: was nobody there?
49:05
Speaker 1: No. 30 minutes before the kick.
49:06
Speaker 3: That's sad. I mean, that's sad for him.
49:08
Speaker 1: Now, everybody says, and it's already in the chat, you've
49:11
Speaker 1: got to get that Tyson and Walmart money. Brandon Marcello,
49:13
Speaker 1: friend of the show, CBS Sports. Wrote a great article
49:16
Speaker 1: about that because Brandon, he lives in Northwest Arkansas. Brandon's
49:19
Speaker 1: close to that.
49:20
Speaker 6: Program.
49:20
Speaker 1: And he says, all I ever hear is how do
49:22
Speaker 1: they not have money?
49:23
Speaker 3: Here's why.
49:25
Speaker 1: And in summation, it's a good article. Go read it.
49:27
Speaker 1: But in summation, John Calipari cut a side deal with
49:30
Speaker 1: the Tyson guy. And he said, if I take this job,
49:34
Speaker 1: you've got to give me money. You're funding basketball. That's right.
49:37
Speaker 1: And the Tyson guy said, I love Arkansas basketball deal.
49:41
Speaker 1: So John Calipari cut his deal with the Tyson guy.
49:44
Speaker 1: So when you see the Tyson food. So chicken's off
49:46
Speaker 1: the menu. Chicken's off the menu for Arkansas football. Not
49:49
Speaker 1: for basketball.
49:50
Speaker 3: You say that, though. He can continue to give.
49:52
Speaker 1: He can, but he doesn't.
49:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I was saying, like, the Tyson food guys,
49:56
Speaker 5: it's not like he's got a pick. Am I getting
49:57
Speaker 5: a jet?
49:59
Speaker 3: Or a yacht. I get it. He can afford both.
50:00
Speaker 1: But he is not invested in football. Walmart's already on
50:03
Speaker 1: the field. Walmart's on the field. Is it Tyson on
50:05
Speaker 1: their jerseys, though? It is, but that is just part
50:07
Speaker 1: of it. But all his NIL money goes to basketball.
50:11
Speaker 1: We're not talking.
50:12
Speaker 3: About a logo.
50:13
Speaker 1: We're talking about giving millions of dollars to build a roster.
50:16
Speaker 3: That's right.
50:17
Speaker 1: And everybody says, okay, you got Walmart up there. And
50:19
Speaker 1: Brandon points out the Walton family... Gave a bunch for
50:23
Speaker 1: Bud Walton Arena, which in today's dollars was like $ 35
50:26
Speaker 1: million or something like that. But their giving has slowly
50:28
Speaker 1: declined over the years. And then here's what happened. This
50:31
Speaker 1: is the stuff we never see. By the way, the
50:32
Speaker 1: kids are not as interested in giving away their money
50:34
Speaker 1: as the parents were.
50:35
Speaker 7: That's right.
50:35
Speaker 1: The kids kind of like that money, right? Here's the
50:37
Speaker 1: stuff we never see, though. The Walton family publicly backed
50:41
Speaker 1: a guy for chancellor for the university system that didn't
50:43
Speaker 1: get the job. So there's the fallout right there. They
50:46
Speaker 1: wanted their guy as chancellor. Their guy doesn't get the job.
50:50
Speaker 1: And as Brandon points out, Slowly, they've quit giving.
50:53
Speaker 2: Final 60 seconds of the show here on Sporting State Forester.
50:56
Speaker 2: Let's leave with the video of Oklahoma running in the field. Lance,
51:00
Speaker 2: he's not going to give up on this Oklahoma team.
51:02
Speaker 1: Stick with them, LT.
51:04
Speaker 3: They're not buttoned up, Lance. Oh, no.
51:06
Speaker 1: It doesn't wreck. The fireworks, though, start malfunctioning, and they're
51:10
Speaker 1: going everywhere.
51:11
Speaker 2: They forgot to tie the fireworks down, and they're sliding
51:14
Speaker 2: all over the place.
51:15
Speaker 1: They're hitting cheerleaders. They're hitting everybody. That is a buttoned-up
51:20
Speaker 1: program right now. That was the most excitement inside the
51:23
Speaker 1: stadium in the win over New Mexico. No doubt. Let
51:26
Speaker 1: it crank up again. Let's roll to the end of
51:28
Speaker 1: the show.
51:29
Speaker 3: Here comes the wagon.
51:29
Speaker 1: Oh, it's going to be a great night here.
51:31
Speaker 3: Look out, cheerleaders.
51:33
Speaker 1: Here come the fireworks.
51:35
Speaker 5: Oh, no.
51:37
Speaker 1: Oh, maybe our offense is going to be this electric tonight.
51:39
Speaker 8: Nope.
51:40
Speaker 1: This is the only fireworks you get. Sorry, Norman. Stay
51:44
Speaker 1: with it, Lance. Stay with it.
51:47
Speaker 2: All right, we're back with the next round on the
51:49
Speaker 2: other side. Clay and Buck here on Sporting State. You
51:51
Speaker 2: guys have a great day.