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Episode 219: The Scourge (SG-1 9.17) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get Into Gates episode two hundred and nineteen. We're talking Star Gates SG one,
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Get out of Gate teams here, Mitch, Maddie, Brendan, Sup,
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boys, what episode are we doing? Ah? This is uh this
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SG one? Is this the skur just planet? And we don't even know
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what's going on? Hey it's bloody Season nine, episode seventeen, isn't it?
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It? Absolutely? God, the audacity of the one to like the
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lot were sitting in the car park waiting for your ass. Yeah, finally
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get here, and then you just start without us, like like you're the
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one that's suddenly in a hurry and just like on the ball, outrageous,
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great lot. I use it a lot. That's that line from Robert Downey.
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Junius is in the First Iron Memory. He's late to the plane and
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then he walks out beats beats, beats beats Roady on the plane. He's
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like, waiting on you now, and I'm like, I use it because
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I'm always late and I just but I'll walk in the door before anyone.
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I'm like, okay, why are you making me waste my time? Now?
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Yeah, we are talking the skurch Let's just rip straight in and see
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what this bad boys all about we may regret this. SG one is introduced
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to myers, a lovely guy, a scientist who is studying a unique of
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insect. Another scientist is bitten by one of the carnivorous insects and dies.
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The bugs have begun a rapid mutation and destroyed the research side. If the
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team does not escape, they will become the insects insects next meal. Now,
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can I just sorry, just point out one thing because I'm a little
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a little Nazi here insect apostrophe s indicating that its one insects where their meat
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loaf. Yeah, the way that could have been worse for you is if
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they'd used the wrong two as well, Like that would I would have got
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me written by Joe and Paul, directed by Ken Giotti. That was all
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waste, to be sure, that was all just a complete waste of breath,
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complete waste of breath. You could have just done this as a summary
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space bug, right, space bugs? Yeah? Yeah, I was like
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I had to quickly flip to the back and what was that a Cooper episode?
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Like after we said last week he's editing all of these so correct Rick,
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Just imagine him with his stupid big red pens crosses everything out space bugs.
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I've I've got a little present for you, Brennon. It's like Brendan
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Bingo for you. I'm studying in is sexual that's the wrong one. That's
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just a long bit. I think we've been a big fan of bugs.
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No big fan of bugs. Sorry, Oh okay, let's play all of
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it. Let's play all of them straight away. To me after watching this
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and yeah, I've seen it before, I forgot it. It's it's it's
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been a long time since I saw it. To me at the end of
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this, Cooper was this is only going to apply to people that have seen
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The Boys, You and Homeland. It just goes up the top of like
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I don't know, the Empire State Building or the Chrysler Building and just jacks
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off over New York City. Yeah, that's basically what I can imagine.
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Cooper read the script and like stayed calm and just plus you only have to
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see Joseph Paul VI yep, just just just give me a moment and just
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in some kind of like comic scene from like Family Guy or something, just
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walks outside, gets in his car, drives politely. Maybe Paul's over again
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into a city, finds a park pace for his parking, goes to the
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tallest building he can find, goes up the lift, then gets off at
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the top level, goes into like the secret fire escape one that only staff
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are meant to use, climb up on the top of the building, and
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just jacks off everywhere because there as fucking bugs everywhere. And this is the
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sort of shit he's been like, he what was the space bug last with
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the flying one that infected people way back when they're on that other Bain That
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was Bain, right, Yeah, so like Bain, He's like, guys,
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this is what I've been fucking trying to tell you. Bugs. Finally
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we got the bloody scarab beetles from the Mummy. They're all up in this
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ship. I wrote the exact same thing down. The bugs are just the
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scaups from the Mummy or because of bloody meatloaf that were calmed that didn't like
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light, you know, and all of a sudden they get a little taste
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of the meat loaf, which is apparently pretty good. And I think that
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was and I know like where we're talking about, you know, bugs on
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an alien planet that we get to viral artificial wormhole created by you know,
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super intelligent ancients. Yeah, but I just couldn't buy that many bugs from
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that one little piece of meat loaf. Yeah, like like there's there's still
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a transitory of mass. Yeah, that's right. It's like if you think
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about any yeah, any any human or animal that creates offspring, you know,
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you're consuming materials to grow, like energy, it needs energy, you
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know that kind of thing. So it's like it's just a weird promise.
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I'm just like, oh, did they really have to feel that entire thing
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with bugs? Yeah, because they had to pop open. Yeah, and
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then and if they got if they got that many off that one little tiny
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chunk of meatloaf, imagine how many they were like after they consume an entire
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human being from the inside out, Yeah, which I thought was really weird,
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Like especially for the m And like towards the end where like they do
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that shot where he kind of like scratches his neck and you see one like
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crawling under the skin. How do you not feel like, how how do
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you not know you're getting consumed from the inside out by a giant insect?
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Like at what point? Well, I mean, you know, one of
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the most iconic films of all times, the first alien an old maid had
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had the alien inside him, that's just in your stomach and then they go
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oh and then it bursts out. It still took a little while. I
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feel like, I mean, those things tend to grow, but it's like,
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you know, we but it's like he was like crawling like under his
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skin on the neck and it's like there's no room there for anything to move.
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Yeah, so how does it not create a pain response? Like,
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yeah, I just a bit itchy. It's a lot, it's a lot.
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Yeah. I mean watching this as a as a double feature really for
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with last week's Atlantis episode, and I was just like, oh, just
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I think back to back watching those two, you know, had we have
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done this week and maybe next week's Atlantis or whatever, it wouldn't have been
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as bad. But I just felt like it was two sort of episodes.
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And I know we talked a bit about the longer bye, you know,
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last week, about you know, all the all the highs and lows and
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things we would have liked to have seen change to maybe improve it in certain
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areas or whatever. But I think just that first sort of watching a few
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problems that I had whatever okay, pushed it to the side, put on
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SG one and then it was just like bugs multiplying Bugs, Bugs, end
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of show. And it was just kind of like, oh, okay,
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like here we are midway through nearly the end of season nine. You know,
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we know all these characters, and it's just like it just felt like
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a bit of a I don't know, a bit like a real nothing episode
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considering who was writing it, like some real like show heads writing it.
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You know, we're neck deep in season now, We've got the prize going
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on, we got all this shit happening behind the scenes. Bar On his
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clones prior bugs. Did somebody fought that sticks? I think I think the
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hardest part for me is like the bugs weren't really like a cockroach is carnivorous.
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Yeah, it's not going to eat as quickly as that. But it's
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like, I think one of the mistakes they made is like when when like
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the what was the pivotal scientist's name, doctor whatever it was, and then
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the phenomenon the names Murphy, Yes, like he just dos one on his
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arm and he squishes it with his hands, Yeah, like he just he
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just steps on It should have been like tis Yeah, or they should have
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been able to eat the glass, yeah something, because it's like if you
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can just squish it under your foot, then yeah, you just squish them,
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or like you just throw a more team bug in there, like a
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more team bomb, like like what it was strange. And then even the
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fact that there is a breach and he he hits that button and it and
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it sucks all the bugs into the vents. Shouldn't that like initiate a base
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alert, you would think, so? Yeah, and and you know general
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Dickhead to the to the laboratory, well not even a general, colonel Colonel
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Dickhead, Colonel Dickhead, colonel dead yeah, yeah, and then he was
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just adorator or no, well I don't know, like where did those ones
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that got sucked out go? I think they just were in the vacuum bag
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And I'm like, what, We're back to eating his lunch. Yeah,
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and then they're like they cut back to the tour. The tour is still
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going. He just comes out debt like and collapses in front of him.
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And it's like, if you had to call them, if that red button
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had been a base alert, which I'm pretty sure it is. The in
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the SGC because every time Sam runs out and hits that, Yeah, then
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game over. Yeah, they could have all escaped immediately almost yeah. Yeah.
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And then also I feel like it was kind of like as annoying as
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all the the IOC delicates were. That's probably the best bit. I kind
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of agreed with him, Like when when they're all in the gate room and
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they're like, Wolsey's like demanding to go back and like, nah, sorry,
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we're into quarantine. But then they opened up the stargate to send through
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the dude. Yeah anyway, Yeah, I'm like, well, if he's
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going through, he's not going through by himself. People have to carry him
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through unless they passed the Yeah. Maybe, but then it's like just send
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all the delegates back to then, like it didn't Yeah, it didn't make
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sense quarantine them on Earth. Yeah, yeah, like because that whatever's like
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if they're if they're in them as well, like they were in the Doctor,
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or they're all going to be in the same scenario and that capsule just
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been popped open after dropping it. Anyway, Yeah, it was a cool
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shot, Like I thought, well done reveal, because it's sitting like this
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doesn't seem like a great idea, but just again, I think maybe the
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timing of it or something, but the moment where the bugs start coming out
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of him, you're like, oh shit, this really has gone yeah to
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an uncontrollable I feel I feel like they started with that moment they went,
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Okay, we want the cool scene of like all these bugs calling out of
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these guys of this guy's mouth, and then kind of reverse engineered the scene
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yeah from there, just to get that. And it's like, well,
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maybe I've done another paths on that one. And you mentioned the delegates like
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they that was so ridiculous, Like come the end where they're like, you
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know, they're just they've they got nowhere. They're trying to figure out this
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situation like there's people being eaten around them, these bugs are taking over the
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joint and then the wallsy on behalf and come on, this is unacceptable,
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Like these people have to these people have to get back, like and and
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just something you mentioned before, Brennan, and it had me thinking of it
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like Jurassic Park, and it's like, imagine if some of those get like
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Alan Grant goes up to guess um, the fact that we like cannot get
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a helicopter out of this place is unacceptable. You're meant to be a billionaire,
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Like, where's your other? Where's your rather jat? Where's rather jat?
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And it's like the jet is right. I literally could have got out
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of there. Yeah I did. I did like the delicates delicates purely for
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the Chinese representative. That's well, she's she's Um Daniel Son's girlfriend from Karate
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Kid too. That's Tamlon Temta Daniel. So she was like Joey luck Club.
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I haven't seen Cobra card, but I don't think he's married to her
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anymore. Right, No, No, she did an appearance in Cobra Kai
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though, did she Yeah, she was in Day After Tomorrow Tech, in
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teen Wolf. She did a Stenton piccard moved to really terrible. No,
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No, the TV series, Yeah thatched. Oh that's pretty fun, was
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it? Yeah? She was like she was it. Did they play basketball?
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No, they played lacrosse. But she was a kit was precious.
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She was a she was a kitsunee. So instead of being like she was
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like um, she was so like you know, there was there's where wolves,
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but then there's also like where foxes and where and she was a she
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was a She was a Japanese where Fox and her daughter was her daughter was
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even hotter and daughter no daughter in the show, who was a kitsunee as
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well, who had a like sword that came out of her belt. It
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was it's a really cheesy show, but it's it's one of those um guilty
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pleasures that I had. I will allow a sword belt. Yeah, yeah,
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it sounds incredible. It was like it was like the sword like she
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pulled it off and it was like and then all the pieces would go chinga
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band. Yeah, it was a slat band. It was a slat band
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sword, you know, the market's missing one becomes a sword. Yeah.
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And then she would just like glow with energy and it would be this big
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like energy Fox around. She could like manipulate electricity and stuff. Wow.
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All this from based off a movie where a guy tends to a walking place
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basketball. Yeah they really saw they really freaking awesome movie where he got it
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got Superman in it. Michael Yeah, yeah, yeah he said Superman.
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He's Superman from Superman aluss I guess the only current Superman we have. Yeah,
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at least as we record this, that show was still going. Can
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James Gunn cancel that show? Yes, yeah he can actually he said.
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He says no, but I think people have asked him's like, it's out
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of my hands, mate, I haven't. I've got like halfway through season
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two. It's it's better than all the other c W shows. It's not.
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It's not amazing. It's decent though. Um. But what I was
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getting to with um Tammelin to Meta the Chinese delegate, the one thing that
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I had to like, well, one of the many things I had to
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sort of um chip this show this episode four is they did that really cliched
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thing where the one female delicate was the one that, like I keep saying
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delicate instead of delicate, she was the one that like fell and twisted her
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ankle, my ankle, I mean to be fair, she was the only
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one in heels the whole time. But it turns out that it wasn't actually
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originally that way in the script. It was Carter. By the way,
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I just want to mention this scene right over here. Originally as scripted,
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it's the British representative who falls down and twists his ankle and yells bloody hell,
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as a British ambassador would want to do. And then we got the
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note from sci Fi the network that basically they felt, well Daniel in his
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relationship with Shan kind of disappears. They were like, well, you know,
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there's no real closure to the n Daniel thing. And we said,
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well, the closure you know comes, you know, we're just sending something
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up that will pay off in another episode. They were and they were like,
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well, there's something we can do, and I said, well,
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you know, the only thing I can think of is she's the one that
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will fall down. And I didn't think of it at the time, and
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I just did it to answer the you know, the network note. Originally
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it was a British ambassador. I mean, I didn't think it really mattered,
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you know, you know who it was. But the fact that it
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was a woman who fell down, of course, you know, the fans
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jumped all over that and yeah, and they were like, oh, we're
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just so typical. It's a woman. And to be honest, it wasn't
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in you know, but I mean, you know that's the way it is
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in the episode out Daniel Fulldown. Yeah, Richard Dannison never would have stood
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for that. Is such? Is this such a thing as a British ambassador?
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Yeah? Well, I mean it depends what you were talking about.
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I don't know. I don't know, but that doesn't make more sense because
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that guy the finger quotes British ambassador all of Britain. He didn't. He's
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the ambassador for all of Britain, all the countries in Britain. Yeah,
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great Britain. I'm assuming is in Great Britain. Is like the four Child
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they have their own places ambassadors. Well, this is just the IOC.
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I wouldn't call them an ambassador. I'd call them representatives. Like there's not
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an ambassador because he's not the same guy from Disclosure back in season six is
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he they were ambassadors? I just like this is just like a member.
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These are just members of the IOSA. An English doctor in in Nurse Jackie
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and the guy's like, are you from Britain? She has Yes, I'm
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from all of Britain. Who knows um? But yeah, it kind of
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doesn't make sense because that guy did nothing this entire episode, Like like the
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French guy was snooty and annoying, and he had his little moment where they're
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just like left him behind, like he have the gun, We'll leave you
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behind, like he had that bit, and obviously shann had all her stuff
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with Daniel in the Commissary, but where we're all too distracted watching Tilki Dag
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with dogs too or corn dogs for the Americans? Um or um? What
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else could you have bad save about? Does about it? Sab come on
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a stick though, if you want it to straight down the eye come anyway?
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Um um Yeah, So I guess that he guess it makes sense,
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But yeah I did, Like I did kind of like that whole SGC premission
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where they're like, oh, you're babysitting and really, and then I feel
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like Mitchell would have been really happy with the way that like SG one were,
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especially with Daniel and Carter, because Daniel would was like doing all his
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nerdy Mandarin talk and he's like, yeah, talk that shit, Daniel,
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And then they're like, what happens to our body? And then Carter explains
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everything to the molecular level and all that shit, and he's like, yeah,
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tell that guy that Carter. I was impressed. Yeah, I was
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like they are a good team to babysit. I was. I was not.
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So you guys give me a lot of shit. And I personally don't
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think we never we've never done that. I personally don't think I should get
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it. That's one for this, because I think this is this is bullshit.
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But you guys know that I will do I will. I will find
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a way. I will find an extremely tedious way to working something that I
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need to. But I was an IMDb and I d one of these pieces
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of quote unquote trivia. It's a stretch, So here we go. Stay
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with me. The Stargate works partially in a similar manner to the transporters in
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Star Trek, and the character played by Robert Picardo, who played the doctor
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on Voyager, voices his concern about traveling through the Stargate for the first time,
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specifically about being reassembled incorrectly. This alludes to transport, a phobia which
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three characters in Star Trek universe has expressed, especially another doctor McCoy from Star
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Trek. Come on, guys, it's a lot of Star Trek. That's
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a that's a long way to go. But I just I didn't it's a
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piece of trivia from It's a piece of trivia from IMDb that I think from
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a piece of shit. I was just like I was paying attention. No,
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No, I was thinking jury, I'm like, oh allow this because
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yeah, I was, I actually appreciated that. Yeah, I do too,
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but you can only say three things. That's a rule. Hey you
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hey, looking for the rest of the episode, Bunny, I think that
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Okay, that makes Brandon happy, doesn't make me happy, makes the audience
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happy, and well, actually I can I can give you that too if
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you like, oh buddy, hey, hey, like twenty minutes here?
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Okay, Well I'm just saying the German dub when at the end they're like,
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oh, what movie are we gonna watch it? And they're like,
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and they're gonna watch Old School and then they decid they're gonna watch Starship Troopers
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Boy Blue, which is makes sense because it's about you just did an episode
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about alien bugs. In the German dub, they said, we'll instead of
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watching Old School, we're gonna watch Star Trek. Okay, I'm like,
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that just ruins that just ruins the joke completely. Yeah, Like, did
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Starship Troopers not get a German release and they wouldn't know what what it is?
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Maybe? I mean that movie was you know, obviously it was American
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propaganda for like for the movie for being American propaganda. Yeah, like it
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was, Yeah, the movie it was meant to be there yeah, exactly,
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so maybe maybe it didn't. It's a weird one unless maybe the German
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words for starship and troopers are just really really long, so they're just trying
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to match it up to um Tilk's mouth movements. Yeah, yeah, word
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economy for Tilk. Let's do it, because that's what we need to do,
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is give Tilk less yeah, less air time. I think. No,
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I appreciate a Wolsey having that that fear because we don't get that a
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lot. Obviously. We've got in the very early days with people just sort
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of showing that they were scared, but we didn't actually have the So hang
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on, I'm literally pulled apart molecule by molecule and sent across. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's instantaneous and blah blah blah and and um as you know,
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you sit there and I just forget about it. Watching this show. It's
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just like, oh, that's what happens. Yeah, then thinking like holy
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shit, I guess yeah, the first moment you ever walked through the Stargate,
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you are never like, in a way, you're never the same again
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because you've been pulled apart. Sure, you've been put back together. I
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guess in the same order, But back with sticky Tape, It's like,
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no, that's clearly broken and just hatched up. He's a man, he's
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clearly pulled himself to pieces. How many times see someone's going to do that
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going through that? You know, I just think the problem I have with
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that kind of stuff is Woolsey in particular being kind of a pseudo adversary,
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you know, and he's he's been a thought like like back with the klic
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staff. Yeah, you know, he's kind of been a thought in our
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side, but sometimes you know, an ally, but then it's like,
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well, I personally in universe, I don't think anyone who hasn't been through
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the Stargate should have an opinion on how it's run. So it's like your
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Woolsey's, your Kinsey's and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, fucking if
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they're going to have an opinion about it, make them go through the Stargate
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first, Like all the times that Wolsey has spent being annoying and trying to
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cut budgets and do all those things, like you haven't even fucking been through
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it yet, your piece of shit? Yeah, Well, like that would
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mean you'd have to have real people being politicians. Yeah, blood sucking scumback.
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Yeah. Yeah, It's just it's just it's like if the if I
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got, you know, clearance to find out that the Stargate exists, and
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I'm like, the first thing, I'll be like, well, I'm going
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to need to go through it to make sure it's real. I'm going to
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need to go there. I'm gonna need to go there and inspect it and
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go through it. Yeah. I just think that should be. That should
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be like day one of your debrief is, Hey, we're gonna introduce you
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to this top secret thing we're doing. And part of the way we're going
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to make sure that you don't tell the secret aside from just signing a piece
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of paper, is we're gonna make you go through it so you experience it.
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Yeah, because I feel like that would make a lot of people go,
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oh, Okay, this is real, this is a thing, because
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it's like, until you actually experience it, how do you know that it's
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not just a bunch of crazy people. Yeah, like pretending siphoning money from
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the government. Yeah, it's like sex planet. You say, m hallucinogenic
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pizzas you said at random. That is where I am choosing to go send
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me on a mission low grade, obviously low danger. And then also to
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the Pizza Planet. Yeah yeah for a belly dance. Do you want here?
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Do you want to hear the Starship Troopers in German? Oh? Yes
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please. I had to trick it because um actually translated to Starship Troopers.
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I'm like, well that's dumb, so it's Starship and then I had to
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had Troopers as a different one. It all together, um chefs M chefs
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realm shift Oh okay, yeah, probably wrong, guys. Hey side note,
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speaking of other languages. Um, I was watching your revision over the
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weekend. Were your Yeah, your wife is check and you always say she's
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from Check because Check or Slovakia is obviously not a thing anymore. And then
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it was check Republic for a while, and they've recently changed it again,
23:52
Yeah to check yea check. Yeah, that's what it was what I watched.
23:56
I had no idea and tell her what's your vision. It's like,
23:59
oh, him, and here's the from check Ard and I'm like, yeah,
24:03
we just call it check M. It's gonna say they coming up their
24:06
minds. It makes no sense. I've heard Brennan say she's from Communist Russia
24:11
when he's trying to take the piss out of her in front of her US
24:14
friends. Give me another beer, you're comm here, Give me some vodka.
24:19
For God's sake. My kids doing mad impression of her. Oh my
24:26
god, don't funny. Oh man. A couple of years more, that's
24:33
gonna be like from your daughter. It's gonna be three old one, because
24:37
you will do nothing to Bella looks so much like her, and if she
24:40
starts bugging on the accent and try with your sense of humor, because holy
24:45
shit, looks like her mum acts like a dad. It also has the
24:49
maturity as well to go. It's like this is a this is a dangerous
24:52
combination. Three years she'll be as tall as her mum. Check a blonde
24:57
wig on her, and it'll just be she could do that for Halloween.
25:03
She can just three years time, she just goes goes for Halloween? Does
25:07
it? Just st One always get given their weapons in the gate room.
25:11
Sometimes it's the first time I remember ever seeing it. No, I've I've
25:17
seen it like O'Neill get it a couple of times. And sometimes they hand
25:19
them off too, like they hand them off. Yeah, sure, but
25:23
the first time I've ever seen them. All right, maybe I'm thinking guns
25:27
and murka. Yeah, you have to check your weapon out. On Blue
25:33
Heelers, they have to check their weapon out and check Oh wait, so
25:36
you can reference Blue Heelers, but I can't reference. See you've brought it
25:40
up these old Australian shows. Yeah, but I get shipped for Sea Patrol
25:45
is an absolute classic. They start the same passon exactly not the same writers,
25:49
though, is it. Oh god damn. I'm got a messagch other
25:52
day from someone who'd watch Sea Patrol. I thought, so, Yeah,
25:56
it's someone from overseas. I found it like the whole march, didn't you?
26:00
That's what I mean. You read it out here, did I?
26:02
Or did I just put it in there? And in fantasy? In fantasy
26:04
to see Patrol that would absolutely translate so much better than Blue Heelers. Like
26:08
like Mount Thomas is like fourteen people that live there, Dude, how much
26:12
murderers? I don't lived there? Four of them cops, the other ten
26:18
of murderers. How that? How long that series run? Ten years or
26:22
something? Yeah? It was Aaron Croid never get together in the end the
26:26
thing. It's like he just got a Gobby in the back. I loved
26:30
that show, so I'll watch it. We watched it like season one.
26:36
I'll take water Rats because that's that's even that's even more niche because they're like,
26:40
we're going to do blue Healers, but they get only solve crimes that
26:42
are on the river in Sydney Harbor. Yeah. Yeah, see that shouldn't
26:48
that shouldn't have left our shores. That would have made out like people overseas.
26:52
You think of Australia, you're probably thinking of Sydney. If you're gonna
26:53
name a city and the idea, it's like, hey, you know the
26:56
opera house. No, mate, that's the criminal underworld there underneath, there's
27:02
criminals there. There's so many dead bodies floating in that joint under the bridge.
27:06
Dad, I should play those songs, um, the theme songs.
27:12
Oh yeah, oh god, god, I couldn't play it. Well.
27:15
We had to play Grace under pressure for you the other day. For me.
27:25
I didn't you leave that entire just you can just hear the cogs of
27:29
my brain going from me that takes place in this room. Will and Grace,
27:38
Why we do Will and Grace? Oh see now that I know,
27:41
well, yeah, Um, getting into this weird episode. Um, there's
27:48
that whole speech Tilt gives. I forgot about it. Well, haven't listen
27:52
to this, and just remember remember that episode last season Avatar where he gets
27:57
stuck in the computer game and like the reason he's stuck in there is because
28:02
it is subconscious. He's like, he knows that will will never know.
28:04
He said we'll never beat the Gould, Like, so that's that was part
28:07
of it. Is like he never actually thought we would ever beat the Gould.
28:11
So that's why his brain always brings up scenarios where then he solves one
28:17
issue, but then the Gould do something else, something else. I always
28:22
thought the he'll never get he will never give upity. But that's the reason
28:27
why the game kept going is because he would solve one thing, but then
28:32
the goulo. They said, because we haven't actually beat the gold in real
28:36
life. No, I'm pretty sure there was a line where Tilk was like
28:38
he admitted that, you know, he thought that, you know, we
28:41
would never actually beat when he first joined us or whatever, he he never
28:45
thought we could actually beat the goo Ould. But then he's down our attitude.
28:51
He says this, but then he says this in this episode, which
28:55
kind of counteracts that good question. All years you're fighting the gold that you
29:00
ever me just stepped back and say, soon or later, our luck's going
29:03
to run out. We're going to get our asses kicked. Never, never,
29:07
not once, even though you were massing with out a number of fighting
29:10
an opponent with superior technology and power power. They may have had the superior
29:14
forces and resources, but we possess something far greater, which was I just
29:18
cause I had no doubt to go, I wouldn't be defeated, perhaps not
29:23
in my lifetime, and eventually they would fall. I have no doubt.
29:27
The same fatal waits the r. So that's what I like about you.
29:32
You're always positive. Maybe that works in both ways. Is that that that's
29:37
a contradiction in general, But then when he does add that little little caveat
29:41
there and maybe not in my lifetime, So maybe that's where you get away
29:45
with it that in the game he was still living, and it was like,
29:48
well, while I'm alive, you know, there will always be a
29:49
challenge that will come along, and yeah, yeah, but otherwise by that
29:53
yeah, but otherwise yeah, because that was such a that was a heartbreaking
29:57
moment, and I mean, that was a really cool episode anyway, but
30:00
then to just throw in that emotional character bit that hey, the reason this
30:04
is happening is because Tilk actually doesn't think that this is going to work.
30:08
Overall, we're not going to survive this war. We're not going to win
30:11
this war. And it's like, holy shit, man, like you're kind
30:15
of you're the bloodline of this fight. You know, Without you, we
30:18
don't have the in. We're just these guys that have been brought into the
30:21
fight. But you, you were there and we took you out to help
30:25
this and your talent. Like so, I mean, I'm glad that he's
30:26
bounced back and he's just trying to like rewrote his own history a little bit.
30:30
Ever. Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, look, I was
30:32
just um, I promised I was listening to you, Mitchell while you're speaking,
30:34
while I was flicking back through my through my Stargate book. But I
30:37
just flick back to the avatar pagent. I've actually got a note written down
30:41
here. At twenty seven minutes and fifty seconds, says Tilk. Never thought
30:44
the Gould could be defeated. Let's go back to the email. Yeah that's
30:53
yeah, but yeah, no, I like it. I like your your
30:56
interpretation there where it's like you'll he just thought, yeah, maybe not an
31:00
his lifetime, but yeah, that already just thought Mitchell didn't read that case
31:07
file. Yeah, true, I can tell this Blake anything. It's going
31:10
to make me sound so tough. Is I never had a doubt, Yeah,
31:12
which was like, yeah, sick, that's it. I'll love about
31:15
you, bro. This um this is unfortunately, well not unfortunately or unexpected.
31:19
It is actually the lowest rated episode for the season on really on IMDb.
31:25
Yeah, it's got a currently a six point nine star rating. That's
31:29
interesting. The lowest before that was last season's Big Fat Jaffar Wedding at six
31:34
point seven, which was that the big fat wedding. Yeah, well that
31:41
was that was a six point seven. Everything's been over that until this point,
31:45
and this one got Seriously, this is not the worst episode of Stargate,
31:49
No, no, just of this season okay, but probably not the
31:53
worst of the season either for me. But interesting, I don't know,
31:56
it was some bits of were kind of cool it. I think it flowed
32:01
well, even though there was some standout obvious things like the mass how much
32:07
the bugs mass? Yeah, I think if they had a bit more money
32:10
too, to make the bugs look a little more believable, like when they
32:14
like when they do come out of that airm and in the in the forest
32:16
and then they go towards til Can Cam and then just kind of just melting
32:22
surrounds. Yeah, like with no displacement of the ground around them or anything
32:25
like that. Um, yeah, they could have helped buy it back a
32:30
little bit more. The thing too, there's one line in the cave where
32:32
it's like, oh, we're surrounded by bugs and the prometh I mean,
32:37
what's the next one called Odyssey. The Odyssey will not be able to detect
32:40
our signal because there's so much biomass around us that they just won't even be
32:45
able to detect us through the bugs. So they had to go increase the
32:51
signal. And then when they got beamed up, they were just absolutely surrounded
32:54
in bugs. Yeah, like almost touching them. So how did they know
33:00
something to do with the signal? Some bullshit some bullshit answer there, Yeah,
33:07
yeah, I don't know it's and then the IOA people, I imagine
33:10
had to chip maybe yeah yeah, yeah, because I don't know. Yeah,
33:21
I just I just think it need Moore, I think you know,
33:22
like Mitchell saying before, like you know, it was you know, getting
33:25
towards the end of the season, there's probably a little bit of fatigue going
33:28
on. It's like they could have just done a bottle episode or something like
33:31
that. But you think about it's like, this is all new sets,
33:34
all on location, you know, because it's a new what are we up
33:37
to now, Gamma site something like that? Do they never reuse alpha site
33:42
again? Do we just after we lose the alpha site? Do we just
33:45
do we not build a new one at any point? Assume they do have
33:47
an alpha site, but this is another base, a sign science base.
33:52
Yeah, but we've lost the alpha and the beta sites. So I don't
33:58
know, I don't know. But um, yeah, there were a couple
34:02
like there were really good individual moments here and there, but overall it was
34:07
a bit it was a bit of a mess. I did love, Um,
34:10
Carter got a really good moment, mister Wallsy. If I could go
34:15
back in time, which admittedly is an opportunity I'm occasionally presented with, I
34:20
would have made sure that we left the base as schedule. Oh yeah,
34:22
it's so matter of like, just yeah, this happens. I'm like how
34:27
does that like just forming that sentence. Yeah, I think the rest of
34:30
that sentence that when she was giving it to him saying I don't think I
34:36
can really, yeah, I have given everyone a pep talk considering the situation.
34:42
Yeah, I just love how she just paused to just go, like,
34:45
if I get in time and change all this stuff, I would,
34:47
but she you know, she stops to go if if I get a weake
34:51
in time, which, to be fair, I've had the opportunity and the
34:55
like. I just thought that she paused to take that moment. Yeah,
34:58
I thought that was great. There was another weird one though, where Okay,
35:01
so there's that moment in the gate room where Daniel and the Chinese delegate
35:07
a talking Mandarin and then like she references something to Cam and then Cam says
35:14
something snotty like back in Mandarin, Like that's fine. He doesn't like you
35:19
could just be like, hey cool, Cam's a man of the world.
35:21
He knows Mandarin. Well, then, like in hate when shows do this
35:24
where then like in the like the stuff afterwards and blah blah blah, they're
35:28
like, well, Cam doesn't actually know how to speak Mandarin. He just
35:31
knows how to say that one word, that one phrase in Mandarin to make
35:35
people think that he knows how to speak Mandarin. Surprising, this isn't gendered
35:38
like a lot of debate amongst the fans, and they were saying, well,
35:43
does does this mean that you know Mitchell speaks Mandarin, re understands Mandarin.
35:47
And my response is that is, no, he doesn't understand Mandarin,
35:50
but he can recognize Mandarin. He knows that one word. So essentially,
35:53
you know, in the event that anyone in speaks Mandarin around him, and
35:57
you know, in case they're talking about him, he can throw that one
36:00
word to suggest that, you know, he knows what they're talking about,
36:02
to suggest that he knows what language they're using. Yeah, I mean,
36:07
I could be ting who was that? That was Paul? Oh, I'm
36:12
sorry, Doubles Joe, that would have been Joe. Yeah. So yeah,
36:15
I mean, maybe I'm like twenty twenty three in this, but that
36:16
just seems wildly racist to just be like, you know, what, them
36:22
Chinese, I'm going to learn this one word so they're not gonna talk shit
36:25
about me. But that doesn't China have a bunch of languages, like two
36:30
major language Yeah, yeah, exactly, Mandarin and the other one Cantonese as
36:37
well. There's a bunch and there's like there's a there's like traditional Mandarin and
36:42
a more modern manner and I believe yeah. Um, and it's a very
36:46
tone based language as well. But it's like he's a thin colonel in the
36:51
in the US Air Force, been speaking Vietnamese for all he knew. Yeah,
36:54
like can he just can he just not know Mandarin? Yeah? Exactly,
37:00
like in that outrageous you know, and then and then him and him
37:02
and doctor Lamb. You know, that's a little bit of maybe he spent
37:06
some time, spend some time abroad, hit that Hong Kong mattress and the
37:10
Orient, spent some time in the Orient, was posted over there. Maybe
37:15
language enjoy the people with the delicate I just love that moment where you know,
37:20
it's early on before everything goes to ship. She's sitting in the in
37:22
the break room and better dig into some you know, Gamma Jello. I
37:30
was gonna say, but probably where is your section the where's the bay Marie?
37:38
We got a lemon chicken? Do they get a warmer somewhere? Um?
37:45
I might have a Nasi goring what that's time? Same shit, that's
37:52
racist, Like get a little caught, my mate shout to male in my
37:59
favorite Chinese restaurant to vietnames and Chinese people. I wouldn't know which dishes what.
38:02
So No, as long as it's got MSG in it, I don't
38:06
care when I get nightmares tonight, I'll come back tomorrow. Yea. As
38:09
a look, as long as there's some kind of protein deep fried in a
38:13
batter with the sweet sauce on it, I'm fine. I'm good. YEA,
38:15
give it to me. I had I had lunch today. Yeah,
38:20
it's delicious. What was his name? I had? I had a bow
38:23
bun a little because I'm time delicious bow bow bo bun. It's like that,
38:30
what is it? Um? That's a will and Grace joke. That's
38:36
a willow dracer. We're bringing it back. Here we go, bring it
38:37
back, gonna pull up your Gilmore girls. That's one until next week,
38:43
buddy one. We've got um now. In that moment, and she's she's
38:47
eating her lemon chicken and Daniel goes and he's like, hey, ya,
38:52
you you're looking looking busy, and she's like, yeah, I'm just about
38:54
to do something. Oh yeah, I wouldn't mind to sit down like he
38:57
just like fully got into her space and she's like so yeah, no,
39:04
no, don't worry about me. I'll just I'll move my computer and all
39:07
my ship out of my paperwork out of the way, just so that you
39:08
can come here and ask me questions that I have absolutely no interest in.
39:13
The side part to that was the other table table being racist to her,
39:16
so she had to move. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
39:20
that guy one guy was German, right, no, French and Britain French.
39:35
Yeah, he was friend which guy the blond guys as long as this
39:38
is not this unacceptable, I love about him. But just the haircut.
39:43
That guy he's been holding the haircut since the late eighties and right there in
39:46
the two thousands. He's like, no, it'll come back. No.
39:50
They were all just on to beet side, That's what it was. They
39:52
were all like free Tibet. So they were like, you know, we're
39:54
just gonna sit over here, whereas um, yeah, no, Daniel was
39:58
quite happy to invent where is this girdl neil I have his haircut from his
40:00
other shows. He was angus. That did not make sense. I thought
40:06
he was Germans. Had he does look like a couple of a henchman from
40:12
one of the die Hard films. So, I mean then in Fantass number
40:15
two, Yeah, yeah, that guy that like stayed alive and so he
40:20
got down with the machine gun and Owl had to shoot him. Yeah,
40:22
he does actually look like that guy. Yeah, let me look it up.
40:25
Just to save the emails. Um, we don't get emails, mate,
40:30
yes, we do, not complaints anyway. Emails was just a general
40:35
term. It'll save the tweets and the dms. Well, his name is
40:37
Jean Lapierre in the episode, so I'm gonna guess that he's French. Sounds
40:43
pretty Mark Oliver portraying Jean Lapierre Tamlin to me to playing Sheen. I'm not
40:50
even temp that last name. There's no vowels in there. Can do it,
40:53
Jaya anyway. Um, and then the British. The British guy just
41:00
gets British British representatives. Chapman. Is it all it gets from the town
41:05
of England? Chapman, I am. I was trying to cheat. I
41:13
was trying to use chat GPT to do my trivia questions. Sure it's the
41:22
future, but it's kind of shit because it didn't work. I just said
41:25
right. Five trivia questions based around SG one season nine, episode seven,
41:30
and I gave it a link of all the transcripts. So I got a
41:35
little bit confused because judgment day one more week. Yeah, because what is
41:38
the It said, what is the name of the insect creature that infects the
41:43
planet in the Scourge? The answer arratasbug? Oh Jesus Christ? Wrong?
41:51
Um. Who is the first member of SG one to be infected by narratasbug
41:55
in the Scourge? Tilk also wrong? Just hurts bar, that's my brain.
42:01
What's the name of the race who appears in the Scourge? Are you
42:05
sure Jacob's girlfriend didn't write these questions and helps SG one fight the Iarratus bug?
42:09
Wow? Answer Todd also wrong? Oh god, no, stop star.
42:16
What's the name of the ancient device that one uses to destroy the Iratus
42:22
bug in the Scourge? Answer the atero Devices. So anyway, unfortunately,
42:29
before that, that's making my skin crawl. I had I asked it to
42:31
write a jake, feel like there's bugs onto my skin? You want to
42:35
hear the joke, not if it's based on any of those Why did the
42:37
Iratus bug cross the road in the Scourge episode of Star Get Su one to
42:44
get to the other Hive guys that actually wouldn't be bad in it, like
42:50
Atlantis. Can we retire chat GPT at this point we need to God Jesus
42:58
that hurt. You're welcome. Now you know what it's like. No,
43:02
now I know how my friend felt like it was a while ago. Um,
43:07
he's a massive Harry Potter fan, and I caught like the playing Harry
43:10
Potter on TV one night, so I kind of caught like the first half
43:14
of like number seven or something like that, and then that was it,
43:19
and then like the next night I ended up like like, oh no,
43:22
I watch I watched the back half of it, and then I watched like
43:24
number eight, and then I watched like six, and then I watched three.
43:30
No, then I watched four, and then I like watched one and
43:31
two and then and then finished on three. Becaus is my favorite. And
43:35
he's like, I think when you just gave me aids, Yeah, because
43:38
just like hearing me watch it all out of order, um just made your
43:42
skin crawl. And yeah, hearing everything that you just said made my skin
43:45
crawl and my brain. It's so annoying because I was like yes, finally
43:53
a good way to get triviad do not have to do any work. Thing
44:00
that was so terrible. I think it gave me cancer. And that's from
44:07
a robot. Thank you. Shit. I was going to get into this
44:15
whole thing about how like Wolvesey being um a civilian but he was still like
44:22
ordering around the general guy. I was gonna get it the whole thing comparing
44:25
that to Weird. You're right, You're absolutely right, Maddie, but you
44:36
know he was in he was a civilian in charge giving orders to the military.
44:40
Um. And then I guess one thing to keep an eye on is
44:43
I think it comes up maybe maybe in Crusade or came alot, like that
44:46
whole thing they set up with the Chinese delegate and he's saying like, oh,
44:52
you know, not happy with the current agreement with the stargate and all
44:57
that kind of stuff, And she was like sussing Daniel out to be like,
45:00
so if the US military wasn't in charge of the stargate, would you
45:04
just follow the stargate or yeah, yeah, that'll that'll come back up again
45:07
in a couple of episodes, and was like, well, of course,
45:09
because I don't give off ay He's like, I'm Canadian. Yeah, go
45:19
Canucks. Yeah. Well on that chat, GPT did us a little service
45:27
thanks to Damien, who said this in this is what I've been talking about
45:31
it our last couple of episodes. I've just found it. You know,
45:34
we're talking Damian Edwards. No different, dam Different. That's why you used
45:37
Damian, Damien, Damien not Damo. Damien was gonna say, because if
45:42
it was Demo and you used Damien, I'm like, why are you being
45:44
so formal? Yeah? At momtastic eighty eight on Twitter, um, but
45:50
I don't do metastic. Yeah, Demo didn't even think, oh ly shit.
45:55
He had chat GPT um incorporate us into some Stargate stuff. And I
46:02
found it at this late stage of the podcast. I was going to carry
46:05
it over next week, but I mean, do it, do it next
46:08
week? No, No, I'll do it now. Okay, you've been
46:10
pluging it for weeks, haven't you? Something like that? So Damian hit
46:14
me up and I was the first one to see it on the tweets on
46:19
the DMS, and I said, Hey, I'm going to screenshot all that
46:22
you deleted off your end so that anyone else who checks the account remember you
46:25
sending that message being like, hey, don't look at the DMG. Yeah,
46:29
well I went back trying to look for the original message, but I
46:30
think the original one was. Guys. I hope you love the effort that
46:32
the AI understood what I wanted. It even wrote dialogue. He says,
46:37
now here we go using the hosts of Get into Gate podcasts as characters in
46:44
an SG one plot that sounds like a fun idea, says chat GBT.
46:47
Do you want me to generate a plot summary for you? Yes, says
46:51
Damo. He's like, what the else was I here for? Okay,
46:53
here is a possible plot summary for a Stargate SG one episode featuring the host
46:59
of the Getting to Gate podcasts as characters. Oh yeah, give it to
47:01
me. Guess the title of the episode ce Chats Gone back to its old
47:10
tricks. Synopsis. When SG one discovers a mysterious device on an alien planet,
47:17
they accidentally activated and find themselves transported to a parallel reality where Stargate is
47:23
a popular podcast hosted by four Australian fans Mitch, Maddie Brendan and Reese spelt
47:30
r w e CE. The team must find a way to return to their
47:34
own reality before they are exposed as imposters by the suspicious hosts and their loyal
47:39
listeners. Okay, that that part there. I want you to actually put
47:44
the music you put under when you reach But that read exactly like a synopsis
47:47
from the day. Along the way, they learn more about the podcasters lives,
47:54
opinions, and passions for Stargate guest stars Mitch Lewis as himself, Maddie
48:00
gives himself Brendan Gibson as him What do you think that familiar? They've added
48:04
the y just yeah, you're right, here's me, DCTR Jackson. Can
48:07
I show you something? Imagine? I think is that a ward? Or
48:13
what do you think? Not that kind of Oh? Sorry now he's then
48:15
he's obviously asked, hey, can you give me another one? Sure?
48:17
Here's another possible plot summary for star Get SG one episode featuring the host of
48:22
gettingto Gate podcast as characters title the fifth Host. Oh. When SG one
48:34
receives a distress signal from an old friend, they are shocked to find out
48:37
that it is none other than Lincoln script and we will we will do it
48:47
on Patriarch, the fifth host of the Getting too Gate podcast, who mysteriously
48:52
disappeared after season five, Lincoln reveals that he was kidnapped by a road faction
49:02
of the NID who wanted to use his knowledge us on the D use his
49:09
knowledge of Stargate for their own nefarious purposes. He managed to escape and contact
49:15
SG one for help. However, his former captors are not willing to let
49:19
him go so easily and send a team of mercenaries after him. SG one
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must protect Lincoln and help him reunite with his fellow podcasters. Guest stars Lincoln
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Lewis as himself, Michael Shanks's Daniel Jackson slashed the voice of Thor for no
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reason, and Amanda Tapping as Samantha Carter slashed the voice of Freyer out of
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nowhere. Okay, I want us to act. I don't whether we need
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to get chat GPT or something, but I want us to actually, like
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do like a radio play of the fifth host. Yeah, like I think
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that would be. That will be ex Lincoln Lewis as himself. We can
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be like, yeah, will be the NID people people be like the episode
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of Frasier where they do the radio play. Yes' be fantastic. We'll build
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it. I've got a couple of chat g TP whatever it's called things.
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But I'll say that for next week. It's not yeah, not that long.
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And that's what she said. Yeah, and then I think we're done
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with that until it gets better. Can we get GPT five? Oh?
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I'm happy. I'm happy for it to be shit out because it means that
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I can sleep at night knowing that I'm not gonna be Remember, remember we
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spoke. I don't know what it was for Patreon. It was one of
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the episodes, but I talked about that recurring dream I have about being killed
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by Terminator as a kid. Yeah, so let's let's not let's just let's
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just let let's just let Ai go away. Yeah, I agree. Yeah,
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I eat it them kids. I mean, now that that's out in
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me, in the realm, chat GPET will be aware of it. Can
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we change the name? It sucks? Yeah? What GPT? Yeah,
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we know that that's going to be must second kid's name. Yeah, he
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made it up apparently, maybe maybe it is his second kid. Oh,
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he's got like eight butter or after when he named after a plane with some
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yeah, um algebra plane. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was
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a name that you couldn't pronounce when you read it. Yeah, yeah,
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and that was the that was the gag. Yeah, funny, hilarious.
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You don't I would love the fact that, like in two years it comes
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out chat GP doesn't exist. It's just Elon Musk just replying to I think
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he's hilarious. All right, Louis for episode two nineteen stugg at SG one
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The Scourge. We are back next week to talk Stargate Atlantis season two,
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episode of cod or Have you pronounced it? Have you pronounced that? I
51:54
don't know what it's like, Gal Gadote sort of sometimes pronounced. Sometimes it's
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a very it's a very fat. I always just these simpletons that they are
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not pronouncing it, Galand and then I heard her say there's a soft tea,
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And I'm like, Gal, you say it however you want to say
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it, just say it and say it slower. Isn't that how they um
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they say it in the Quentin Tarantine those movies? Probably I don't know what
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that means from that's seen in Inglorious Bastards where the American soldiers have to pretend
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to be French in front of the Germans. Would have been a great scene
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in this if we would have actually had a German. Kudagra is a death
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blow or death shot administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded. I
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mean, it's it's timely giving brought up at the end of this episode.
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So today's let's get a fan of me by get into geek, get into
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