Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Epstein Files Unsealed: Juan Alessi And The Deposition Given To Detective Recarey (Part 2)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06where we left off with Juana Lessi's deposition with Joseph
- 0:10Riccari as part of the original investigation into Jeffrey Epstein
- 0:15in Florida. Question would these massage girls, especially towards the end,
- 0:21would they come alone? Or would they come with other people? Answer?
- 0:25Mostly they would come alone. It was one girl, one
- 0:27of the young girls, the one I can't think of.
- 0:30She would bring somebody else. She'd bring other girls, but
- 0:33I didn't even know the names. Question all of them
- 0:36would go downstairs? Answer yes, question or would one stay downstairs? Answer?
- 0:42Most of the time when the girl came, it was
- 0:45at night, so after dinner. After dinner they went to
- 0:48the movies. And by the time they went to the movies,
- 0:50we clean up right away and tried to get out
- 0:53of there. And that was about eight or nine o'clock
- 0:55at night. After when they came back, I don't know
- 0:58what happened. Our quarters were different. I don't know if
- 1:02you've been in the house, but our quarters were separate.
- 1:05Question it's separate. Answer separate. Before that building is new,
- 1:09they build the building in two thousand and one. Question
- 1:13the guest quarters. Answer yeah, the guest quarters before we
- 1:16had an apartment upstairs. Question they have the laundry and
- 1:20the little office and the bedroom. Answer yes, that was
- 1:24two thousand and one. Before that, we had an apartment
- 1:26upstairs in their house in the main house. Question in
- 1:30the little rooms upstairs across from his master bedroom. Answer right.
- 1:34Question was there ever any photographs that you can recall
- 1:37around the house? Answer girls, girls photographs and guest photographs. Yes.
- 1:43Question were they dressed or were they naked? Answer? Most
- 1:47of them were dressed. It was a lot of entertainment
- 1:49in the pool, around the pool, but most of them
- 1:51were dressed. Question when was the last time that you
- 1:54spoke with mister Epstein? Answer The last time I spoke
- 1:58with mister Epstein was about a week ago when you
- 2:01left me the card. I got scared because of the
- 2:04fallout that we had, and I thought it was a
- 2:06consequence of that, and I called and say, Jeffrey, what's
- 2:09going on? What's happening? Because I thought it was part
- 2:12of an investigation against me on his part. Question Oh, well,
- 2:16I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. Answer that's
- 2:19why I called him. That's the only reason that I
- 2:21called before I even spoke to you. Question just when
- 2:25you found the card? Answer? When I find the card,
- 2:28I get scared. I said, what's going on now? Why
- 2:31are you bothering me in my house? That's why I
- 2:34called him. He said, John, there is no investigation going on.
- 2:38I have nothing to talk to you. That's it. I said, Okay.
- 2:41Question he didn't give you any information? Answer not a word.
- 2:45Question has anybody else contacted you from mister Epstein's organization,
- 2:50his assistance, his attorneys? Answered no, no, no question anyone
- 2:55that works for his attorneys? Answer for his attorney, Yes,
- 3:00h is attorney, the president attorney. Yes, that was an
- 3:02investigator that it was investigated on his side. I can't
- 3:06remember his name, but I understand it was from Roy
- 3:09Black's office. That was his attorney. And this investigator basically
- 3:15asked me the same questions, exactly the same questions. What
- 3:18did I know? What did I know? Question? When did
- 3:21this happen? Answer? This happened about ten days ago, about
- 3:24a week ago, ten days. I'm not sure what date.
- 3:27Question was his investigator's name? Answer, it's the date after
- 3:32I contacted you. Question Paul. First name Paul. Answer Paul,
- 3:36Yes you have a last name. Question no answer. He
- 3:40asked me exactly the same questions. Question did he offer
- 3:45you any money? Answer absolutely not, I would not take it.
- 3:50Question did he tell you not to speak with me?
- 3:52Answer no. He says no, he told me not to
- 3:54speak to you. He didn't say that to me. He says,
- 3:57it's your choice. You make the decision. And he says,
- 4:00if you hire a lawyer, you make that decision, and
- 4:03we feel that was important for us. I don't want
- 4:06to be involved with this thing. I'm out of the
- 4:08job three years ago, and that's why we hired mister Morel.
- 4:12He suggested that question. Did he ask you if anybody
- 4:15else had been contacted? Answer no question. Did he tell
- 4:19you to call him back after our meeting? Answer no,
- 4:24no question. Were you to have any contact with him
- 4:28at any time after our meeting? Answer? If I will
- 4:31have contact, I have no reason for it. I have
- 4:33no reason to call Jeffrey or anybody else. This is over,
- 4:36I hope. Question well, mister Alessi, this is basically an
- 4:41ongoing investigation, so obviously anything that we discuss, hopefully will
- 4:45stay between us because it's still ongoing. I wouldn't want
- 4:48this out until the investigation is complete. Answer. It's not
- 4:53going anywhere. Even my kids don't know it. Question he
- 4:58contacted you after you called mister h Epstein. Answer yes,
- 5:01When I call him and I said, Jeffrey, what's going on?
- 5:05He said, John, I don't know what's going on. There's
- 5:08an investigation against me. So then I said, whoo, thank god,
- 5:12I don't know what's happening. And then he says, I
- 5:15have an investigator that it's investigating the same thing police
- 5:18department is doing. He's going to contact you, and that
- 5:21was the end of it. I think his name was Paul.
- 5:24I only met him for about fifteen minutes ten minutes.
- 5:27Question you met at your house? Answer no, no, I
- 5:30don't want him at my house. We met at Caraba's restaurant,
- 5:34but it was not open, so we met outside Crabas.
- 5:36It took about ten minutes. Question going back to the
- 5:40items that were found in the sink, can you describe
- 5:43any of those massagers? Answer? I only saw two things.
- 5:47It was a big, big I think vibrator, big indicating,
- 5:51and it was a long I hate to say it.
- 5:52I'm sorry it was a long dick. I think rubber thing.
- 5:56And there was a thing used in the back, the
- 5:58vibrator in the back. Question what color? Answer? We always
- 6:03had those, not those toys. Vibrators. We have different types.
- 6:06One for the neck, one for the back, you know,
- 6:09one that has a battery and they move with balls
- 6:11on it. Vibrator. That's it. That's what I find there.
- 6:15I never find anything else those two things. Question do
- 6:18you remember any names of the girls that might have
- 6:21come over for massages? Answer yes, I remember some of
- 6:24them from the beginning, from the end. Question as many
- 6:28as you can remember. Answer as many as I can remember.
- 6:33Question I know it's been a while. Answer it was Jody,
- 6:36It was Donna, It was Virginia. It was how many Virginia, Lana.
- 6:41It was also a young girl, but she was not
- 6:42a massage therapist. She came to the house as a friend.
- 6:46I think. I don't think she was a massage therapist.
- 6:48Her name was As a matter of fact, she's in
- 6:51a soap opera. Now she's a star. Just give me
- 6:54a minute, Nadia Jorlin. There also were men massuses. There
- 7:01were men too. Answer there were men, A few, not
- 7:03that many, A few I can't remember. Alison, there was
- 7:07an Alison, there was a Dina. I think every name
- 7:10girl's name. In eleven years, I can remember. Question that's fine. Answer.
- 7:15There were girls coming and going. There were girls traveling
- 7:18with them as massage therapists. They would travel the world
- 7:21with them. Because he was in the plane. He got
- 7:23massages on the plane. Because I know because I used
- 7:27to supply the oils and the towels for the plane.
- 7:30Question would you clean the plane too? Answer no, no question.
- 7:34Did you ever travel with them anywhere? Answer no, no
- 7:37question When he went to New York or Arizona or
- 7:40his private island. Answer, I've been on his island. I've
- 7:44been as a guest, as a vacation. We took vacation
- 7:47and I went to his island in the Caribbean. And
- 7:49I've been to New Mexico. I've been to his house
- 7:51in London. But not as a worker, just vacation. Answer
- 7:55as a vacation answer, uh huh. We went to New
- 7:59Mexica to go for it was kind of a symposium
- 8:02about how to clean homes. It was this lady who
- 8:05teach all the house people housemen, and they invited us
- 8:08to Santa Fe, New Mexico to teach us how to
- 8:10clean homes. That was kind of stupid. Question how he
- 8:14wanted the house to be cleaned? Answer, yes, we didn't
- 8:17get that much. Question can you think of anything that
- 8:20I haven't asked you that might be relevant to this? Answer?
- 8:24I can't think of anything. Basically, it's the same questions
- 8:27that the other investigator asked me, exactly the same. I
- 8:31wish I could give you some names. Question. I'm not
- 8:34going to ask you to do that because I know
- 8:36it's been a long time. I can't think of stuff
- 8:38I did last week. Answer, it's been a long time.
- 8:41Question if by any chance you were contacted again by
- 8:45his investigator again for any more questions or anything, or
- 8:48any packages that he might deliver to you. Answer, they
- 8:51have to go to mister Morrel. Question I was going
- 8:54to say, have them contact your attorney, mister Morel packages.
- 8:59Are we expecting a delivery or something? Detective Riccari No,
- 9:02I'm just saying, mister Morell, Okay, just making sure there
- 9:06wasn't something I didn't know about. Detective Riccary I e. Gifts, etc.
- 9:10That kind of thing. The witness, No, riccary I would
- 9:14appreciate a phone call just to give me a heads
- 9:17up the witness. I do not intend to contact them
- 9:20at all. Detective Riccary, Okay, I appreciate it. And that's it.
- 9:26And with that, the deposition, at least this deposition of
- 9:29Juana Lessi, comes to an end. And when we put
- 9:33all these depositions together and start looking at these receipts,
- 9:37it becomes relatively clear that there was a lot more
- 9:40going on than they want to tell us. There was
- 9:44a lot more going on as far as co conspirators,
- 9:46other people involved, other people around, and other people that
- 9:50should be sitting in a jail cell right next to
- 9:53Glenne Maxwell and I think the biggest takeaway for me
- 9:57is all the receipts that we're getting that just go
- 9:59to prove everything that we've been talking about over the years. So,
- 10:04like usual, we'll continue to add these depositions and these
- 10:07core documents so that we can all have the context
- 10:10we need to truly understand what the hell is going
- 10:14on here, and not only that, but who was involved.
- 10:20All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 10:22be found in the description box