Latest / Crime Night / The Calculated Cruelty of Greed: IVF Dreams Stolen, Body Burned—The Dunya Al-Jubeili Tragedy
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, let's set the scene. It's three third thirds in
- 0:03Speaker 1: the morning, al Konka, al Kalubia, October twenty twenty three.
- 0:08Speaker 1: Imagine the street. It's dark, pre dawn quiet, but it's
- 0:13Speaker 1: the kind of quiet that feels, I don't know, a
- 0:15Speaker 1: bit tense. People knew there was often fighting in that apartment.
- 0:19Speaker 2: But this noise, the one that breaks the silence tonight,
- 0:22Speaker 2: it's different.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Yeah, not shouting this time. No.
- 0:25Speaker 2: It's described as this deep, really frantic, rattling cough. Yeah,
- 0:30Speaker 2: the little kid just struggling for breath.
- 0:32Speaker 1: And then the smell hits smoke. You know, that really acrid, unmistakable.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Smell right steins, your eyes, your throat. It's dense.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Neighbors hear it, smell it. Now. They knew this couple foughts,
- 0:41Speaker 1: so maybe they hesitated for a second.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Probably, but the smoke was too thick, and that coughing
- 0:46Speaker 2: it sounded desperate, So they moved fast.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Retched the door, broke it down inside, just thick, blinding smoke.
- 0:52Speaker 2: And it turns out that little cough was critical. It
- 0:54Speaker 2: was Dounia's nephew, just a small child who was staying
- 0:57Speaker 2: over just by chance. Wow, he was coughing so hard
- 1:00Speaker 2: is basically what led the neighbors through the fumes and
- 1:02Speaker 2: what they found it was horrific. The fire was centered
- 1:05Speaker 2: right on the bed, and.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Dunia was there on the bed. The flames had already well.
- 1:10Speaker 1: The reports say her body was severely charred.
- 1:12Speaker 2: A truly terrible end. But the man she'd been married
- 1:16Speaker 2: to for two years, Ali Othman al Jubili, he was
- 1:21Speaker 2: nowhere to be found, vanished.
- 1:23Speaker 1: So this is the story we're diving into Dunya. Some
- 1:25Speaker 1: people who knew her literally said she had the worst
- 1:27Speaker 1: luck in the world.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and this was her fifth marriage. Didn't just end badly,
- 1:31Speaker 2: it ended in this incredibly calculated, brutal way. It's a
- 1:35Speaker 2: story about betrayal, exploitation really taken to an absolute extreme.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back back to twenty twenty one. How
- 1:44Speaker 1: did this all start?
- 1:45Speaker 2: Danie was twenty seven, she'd been through four divorces already,
- 1:48Speaker 2: and the core issue, it seems, was her difficulty having
- 1:50Speaker 2: children naturally.
- 1:51Speaker 1: But she sounds like she was a fighter, independent, always working.
- 1:54Speaker 2: How tor own money, definitely fiercely independent. Then she meets Sally.
- 1:57Speaker 2: He's forty four, a driver, already married, has kids, with
- 2:00Speaker 2: his first.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Wife, and what was the impression of him.
- 2:02Speaker 2: It's pretty damning from the start. Actually, sources described him
- 2:06Speaker 2: using terms like well, lacking conscience, lacking chivalry, basically lacking
- 2:11Speaker 2: basic manliness or decency. It sounds like he wasn't looking for.
- 2:14Speaker 1: A partner, more like an opportunity exactly.
- 2:17Speaker 2: He was looking for an opportunity.
- 2:18Speaker 1: And trouble started immediately, like day one.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Day one in el Konka. His family, especially the first wife,
- 2:26Speaker 2: they started in on doing you right away, abuse, insults
- 2:30Speaker 2: and Ali.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Did he step in protect her?
- 2:33Speaker 2: No, that's the chilling part. He didn't just not protect her.
- 2:36Speaker 2: He apparently joined in. If she tried to defend herself,
- 2:39Speaker 2: even just talk back, he'd hit her.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Unbelievable. And the money situation, how did that develop?
- 2:45Speaker 2: Very quickly? Ali just stopped working completely, became totally reliant
- 2:49Speaker 2: on doing you.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So she was supporting him everything.
- 2:51Speaker 2: She worked relentlessly day night, any job she could get,
- 2:55Speaker 2: cleaning houses, factory work, learning new skills on the fly.
- 2:58Speaker 2: She paid for the household for him, even his personal
- 3:00Speaker 2: spending money. She covered it all.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Why why put up with that for two years? The abuse,
- 3:05Speaker 1: the financial drain because.
- 3:07Speaker 2: She had this one dream, this powerful, driving goal. She
- 3:11Speaker 2: desperately wanted a child. She knew would be difficult, naturally,
- 3:15Speaker 2: so she poured everything, every bit of energy, every pound
- 3:19Speaker 2: she earned into saving for IVF in vitro fertilization.
- 3:23Speaker 1: It costs a lot, and Ollie knew this was her goal.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, he knew she was saving for IVF, and
- 3:28Speaker 2: he let her keep working, let her endure all of it,
- 3:31Speaker 2: because well, she was funding his life. He was benefiting constantly,
- 3:35Speaker 2: and apparently he never let on that secretly he didn't
- 3:38Speaker 2: actually want any more kids.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Okay, So fast forward, she works, she saves, she endures.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Does she reach her goal?
- 3:44Speaker 2: She does. After two long years, she scraped together the
- 3:48Speaker 2: four hundred thousand Egyptian pounds needed for the IVF, a
- 3:51Speaker 2: huge sum her entire savings.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Wow, that must have felt like a massive achievement, immense.
- 3:56Speaker 2: And all she asked Ali was, you know, just come
- 3:58Speaker 2: with me to the doctor's appointment.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Okay, So they go to the clinic.
- 4:01Speaker 2: They go, The doctor explains the whole procedure, the instructions,
- 4:05Speaker 2: and then comes the crucial part which the doctor stressed
- 4:08Speaker 2: that for the pregnancy to have the best chance, Dounia
- 4:11Speaker 2: needed total bed rest for three months right after the procedure.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Three months no work.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Exactly three months of no income from her.
- 4:19Speaker 1: And all he's reaction, let me guess it wasn't about
- 4:22Speaker 1: her health.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Not at all. His immediate singular thought, according to reports,
- 4:28Speaker 2: was who's going to pay my expenses for three months?
- 4:30Speaker 1: Oh? My god? His meal ticket was about to be unavailable.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Precisely, so he immediately starts working on her, convincing her
- 4:37Speaker 2: to postpone. He claims he needs time to sort out
- 4:40Speaker 2: his finances so he can support them during her bed rest.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Playing the concerned husband.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Acting the part perfectly bought himself some time. But then,
- 4:48Speaker 2: not long after they loved the clinic, Dounia found out
- 4:52Speaker 2: the truth.
- 4:52Speaker 1: What happened.
- 4:53Speaker 2: He'd stolen it, all of it, the entire four hundred
- 4:56Speaker 2: thousand EGP she'd saved, wiped out her dream just like that,
- 5:00Speaker 2: and apparently spend it all on himself.
- 5:02Speaker 1: He stole her entire life savings after she told him
- 5:04Speaker 1: she couldn't work.
- 5:05Speaker 2: Yes, the timing is just sickeningly calculated.
- 5:09Speaker 1: That must have been the breaking point.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Absolutely, it triggered this huge final fight. Dinia demanded a divorce.
- 5:15Speaker 2: She saw her future was just destroyed.
- 5:17Speaker 1: With him and his response more violence.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Vicious violence, beat her badly, and his reasoning, reportedly shouted
- 5:23Speaker 2: during the assault, wasn't about love or loss. It was
- 5:26Speaker 2: purely if you leave, who supports me?
- 5:29Speaker 1: It's just ice cold, purely transactional.
- 5:32Speaker 2: Exactly. The second she stopped being a source of income
- 5:35Speaker 2: and actually needed his support, she became a problem to
- 5:38Speaker 2: be eliminated.
- 5:39Speaker 1: So things were obviously terrible between them. How did it
- 5:43Speaker 1: escalate to the night of the murder in October twenty
- 5:46Speaker 1: twenty three.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Well, the tension had been high for months, clearly, but
- 5:50Speaker 2: on that specific night, another massive fight broke out, so
- 5:53Speaker 2: big that Dounia's mother actually.
- 5:55Speaker 1: Came over to mediate.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, she tried to calm things down, broke her some peace,
- 5:59Speaker 2: and she thought she had. She left, believing they'd settled
- 6:02Speaker 2: down for the.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Night, but they hadn't, not even close.
- 6:05Speaker 2: As soon as the mother walked out the door, it
- 6:06Speaker 2: exploded again. Dounia again demanded a divorce. Ali stormed out
- 6:11Speaker 2: of the apartment.
- 6:12Speaker 1: But he didn't actually leave.
- 6:13Speaker 2: No, this is where it gets really chilling. He didn't
- 6:17Speaker 2: leave the area. He went down and sat outside on
- 6:20Speaker 2: the street right near the building. For how long for
- 6:22Speaker 2: four hours, four solid hours, just sitting there leading up
- 6:26Speaker 2: to about three am, doing what people saw him said.
- 6:30Speaker 2: He was just sitting there, smoking, apparently taking drugs. He
- 6:34Speaker 2: seemed weirdly calm, which confused the locals who saw him.
- 6:37Speaker 1: But he wasn't calm inside. He was planning.
- 6:40Speaker 2: He was calculating. We know this from his later confession.
- 6:43Speaker 2: During those four hours, he was figuring out exactly how
- 6:46Speaker 2: to kill Dounia, how to get rid of.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Her permanently and steal the rest of her money.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Yes, she'd somehow managed to save another forty thousand EGP,
- 6:53Speaker 2: maybe for a second IVF attempt down the line. He
- 6:56Speaker 2: planned to steal that too and figure out where he'd
- 6:58Speaker 2: run afterwards.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Hits his plan is ready.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Plan ready. He goes back inside. The little nephew is
- 7:05Speaker 2: asleep in a different room, thankfully all. He goes straight
- 7:08Speaker 2: to Dounia and attacks her. Starts the attack with a knife.
- 7:11Speaker 2: She screamed, And when she screamed, any semblance of calm
- 7:15Speaker 2: planning just vanished. He descended into a frenzy stabbing, hitting.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Did anyone hear the scream?
- 7:20Speaker 2: Yes, this is another awful part. Neighbors heard her scream
- 7:25Speaker 2: rushed to the door, started knocking frantically, and male Ali, somehow,
- 7:29Speaker 2: regaining composure, opened the door just a crack or spoke
- 7:33Speaker 2: through it and calmly told them it was just family disputes,
- 7:36Speaker 2: nothing to worry about, and they left reluctantly. Yes, they
- 7:41Speaker 2: were used to hearing fights from that apartment, sadly, so
- 7:43Speaker 2: they backed.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Off, leaving him alone with her, leaving.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Him alone to finish what he started. But his plan
- 7:50Speaker 2: wasn't just the stabbing right there the fire. It was
- 7:53Speaker 2: the smoke from the fire and the child's continuous coughing
- 7:56Speaker 2: that finally brought the neighbors back maybe half an hour later.
- 8:00Speaker 2: If it wasn't for that dense smoke and the sound
- 8:02Speaker 2: of the child.
- 8:02Speaker 1: The evidence might have been completely destroyed exactly.
- 8:05Speaker 2: The fire was meant to obliterate everything, including her body.
- 8:08Speaker 1: So the police arrived, secure the scene, the investigation begins.
- 8:13Speaker 1: What oh the nephew he saw something he did?
- 8:16Speaker 2: His testimony is just heartbreaking. Yeah, he said he woke
- 8:18Speaker 2: up because of the smoke and the fire and he
- 8:20Speaker 2: saw his aunt Dounia lying on the bed, her body
- 8:24Speaker 2: and face lit up by the flames.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Oh, that poor child. And the forensics the autopsy must
- 8:30Speaker 1: have revealed the true extent of the attack before the fire.
- 8:32Speaker 2: It revealed a level of cruelty that's hard to comprehend.
- 8:36Speaker 2: What did the medical examiner find?
- 8:37Speaker 1: Okay, the report confirms it wasn't just a quick attack. First,
- 8:41Speaker 1: her body showed severe bruising all over, so the beating
- 8:45Speaker 1: before or during the stabbing was significant pre fire trauma. Right. Second,
- 8:49Speaker 1: she wasn't just stabbed randomly. Her throat was slit. The
- 8:53Speaker 1: report used the term slaughtered, and there were multiple deep
- 8:56Speaker 1: stab wounds elsewhere.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Horrific, But there was more. Wasn't that something even more methodical?
- 9:01Speaker 1: Yes? And this speaks directly to his intention to make
- 9:04Speaker 1: absolutely sure she was dead before he set the fire.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Her tendons in her hands and feet, they were deliberately cut, severed.
- 9:12Speaker 2: To incapacitate her completely, to guarantee death. It wasn't rage anymore,
- 9:16Speaker 2: it was execution.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Methodical is the word. And then after all that, he
- 9:20Speaker 1: went for overkill on destroying the evidence. He poured acid,
- 9:24Speaker 1: specifically nitric acid may yet and onto her body in
- 9:27Speaker 1: the bed. Then he poured gasoline on top of that.
- 9:29Speaker 1: Then he set it on fire, acid.
- 9:31Speaker 2: And gasoline, just trying to ensure total obliteration.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And the money. Did he get it?
- 9:36Speaker 2: Yes, the investigation confirmed he stole that remaining forty thousand
- 9:41Speaker 2: EGP either during the act or right after the motive
- 9:45Speaker 2: holds up. It was always about the money, so he flees.
- 9:49Speaker 2: How long was he on the run only three days.
- 9:52Speaker 2: He seemed to genuinely think he could just take the
- 9:54Speaker 2: cash and disappear, but they caught him. Security forces tracked
- 9:57Speaker 2: him using local CCTV footage. They found him relatively quickly
- 10:01Speaker 2: and did he confess immediately? No hesitation, He laid it
- 10:05Speaker 2: all out, the four hours he's been planning outside while
- 10:07Speaker 2: doing drugs. The calculation. He specifically admitted to slitting her
- 10:11Speaker 2: throat and cutting the tendons.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Why did he say why he cut the tendency?
- 10:15Speaker 2: Yes, he stated clearly it was to make absolutely certain
- 10:17Speaker 2: she was dead before he started the fire, no possibility
- 10:20Speaker 2: of survival.
- 10:21Speaker 1: So when you put it all together, what does this
- 10:24Speaker 1: case really tell us for you listening to this?
- 10:27Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a terrifyingly clear picture of how
- 10:30Speaker 2: extreme domestic exploitation can become. Dounia wasn't seen as a
- 10:34Speaker 2: person as a wife. She was an ATM and.
- 10:37Speaker 1: The violence wasn't just random anger. It had a trigger exactly.
- 10:42Speaker 2: The truly explosive violence the murder plot. It wasn't triggered
- 10:46Speaker 2: when he was abusing her daily. It was triggered the
- 10:48Speaker 2: moment she became a financial liability instead of an asset,
- 10:51Speaker 2: The moment she couldn't work to support him.
- 10:53Speaker 1: That's when she had to be eliminated. The malice, the planning,
- 10:57Speaker 1: it was all rooted in greed, in silencing the per
- 11:00Speaker 1: who paid his bills.
- 11:01Speaker 2: And it's chilling to think that the only reason we
- 11:03Speaker 2: even know the full extent of but the only reason
- 11:04Speaker 2: her body wasn't completely consumed was the sound of her
- 11:07Speaker 2: little nephew coughing that then margin.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it really highlights how close he came to getting
- 11:12Speaker 1: away with obliterating all traces.
- 11:15Speaker 2: It's a truly stark look at the depths someone can
- 11:17Speaker 2: sink to when they view another human being purely as
- 11:20Speaker 2: a resource to be drained and then discarded when empty.
- 11:24Speaker 2: The investigation is ongoing, of course, and waiting for final justice.
- 11:27Speaker 1: A deeply disturbing case. It makes you question just how
- 11:30Speaker 1: far can that kind of calculated malice and greed actually go?
- 11:34Speaker 1: What happens when empathy is completely absent, and a person
- 11:38Speaker 1: is just seen as an obstacle to money, something to
- 11:41Speaker 1: think about.