Latest / Black Girl Interrupted Podcast / Black Men Deserve To Grow Old
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- 0:33Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, woo woo woom. What's up? What's up? What's up? Y'all?
- 0:37Know what's your favorite girl from A five four? Your
- 0:40girl actually bringing you another episode of Black Girl interrupted
- 0:43the podcast. Happy Wednesday. I hope everyone is doing phenomenal today.
- 0:48I hope everyone is having an amazing, amazing day. But
- 0:55before I jump into tonight's conversation, I always have to
- 0:59do a mental health check in. I need to make
- 1:02sure everyone is good. I haven't seen y'all in over
- 1:05a week. Well, so let me back up. So, yeah,
- 1:08it's been about two weeks. So the week before last,
- 1:12we were without internet for like three days. Internet went
- 1:15out I want to say, like Tuesday, and we didn't
- 1:19get it back up until I want to say, like
- 1:22Friday evening sometimes, so unfortunately I could not do my
- 1:26podcast then. And then, for those that are new, I
- 1:31did lose my dog last week actually a week ago today.
- 1:37I found my puppy in the backyard dad, And that's
- 1:43all I want to say about that regarding that. But
- 1:47other than that, I'm doing well. I'm feeling great, I'm
- 1:50feeling fantastic. I'm marvelous. But again, before I get started,
- 1:55I do like to do a mental health check in
- 1:57because I need to make sure everyone is good. I
- 1:59hope everyone is having an amazing week thus far. So
- 2:03before we jump into tonight's conversation, I always like to
- 2:06play something empowering, something encouraging, something uplifting, to let you
- 2:11know that, regardless of whatever it is that you're going through,
- 2:14you are strong enough to make it through. So here
- 2:17we go.
- 2:22Speaker 2: It's an urge truth be told.
- 2:25Speaker 3: Every champion has felt it, every president has felt it,
- 2:30every king has felt it, every lion has felt it,
- 2:34every winner has felt it, every soldier has felt it,
- 2:39every victorious person who has felt it the urge.
- 2:45Speaker 2: To quit. Don't you give up on your dread? I
- 2:54don't care if you don't have the money, you don't
- 2:56have the help, and you don't have the family for it,
- 3:00and you don't have the background for it, and you
- 3:02don't have friends for it. Don't you give up on
- 3:04you dort dream pot, shoot do it, don't shoot do it?
- 3:08Don't shoot do it. It may take you twice as long,
- 3:12you may have to take courses and classes. You may
- 3:15not read as fast, you might not move as quick,
- 3:18you might not have as much, But don't you quit
- 3:23don't you quit. Don't you quit. You do make a difference.
- 3:29You do make a difference. You do make a difference.
- 3:34As weak as you are, as tired as you are,
- 3:36as many mistakes as you may, you do make a difference.
- 3:39There is something they would lose if you were not there.
- 3:42There was something that they would miss if you were
- 3:45not there. You do make a difference. You do make
- 3:50a difference. You do make a difference. Keep popping. It's
- 3:56for people that are trying to hop their way back home.
- 3:59Come ahead, how water going the best they can with
- 4:02what they got. That that's what we are, going the
- 4:05best we can with what we got. And we may
- 4:08not break any ribbons, and we may not get any trophies,
- 4:11but if we can learn how to hang on in there,
- 4:15we'll be all right. I will not lie tell you
- 4:18I feel like going on, But I had seen days
- 4:21I did not want to get out in the bed,
- 4:23didn't want to put on clothing, did didn't feel like
- 4:25brushing my teeth. I've seen days so dark that I
- 4:28just wanted to keep driving, and I didn't even care
- 4:31where I ended up on what you called me?
- 4:34Speaker 4: They came.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And they passed, Then it came to pass.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I kept.
- 4:46Speaker 5: I kept it. I lost a lot of stuff, I
- 4:49lost a lot of friends, I lost a lot of strength,
- 4:52I lost a lot of curry. I lost a lot
- 4:55of time, I lost a lot of money. But I
- 4:58kept on my knees. I was still believing, pro I
- 5:04was believing nor man. I was believing, be trying. I was.
- 5:12Speaker 2: If you lose the job, keep the faith. If you
- 5:15lose the spouse, keep the faith. If you bury your child,
- 5:18keep the faith. If you have to downside, keep the faith.
- 5:22If you have to move in with your mama, keep
- 5:24the faith. If you actually wits in, keep the faith.
- 5:27If you have to catch the bus, keep the faith.
- 5:29If you have to dumb, keep the faith. If you
- 5:32get sick, keep the faith. If you lose the kidneys,
- 5:35keep the faith. If you got a heart trouble, keep
- 5:38the faith. You might not get it no hard, but
- 5:40you gotta keep your faith.
- 6:14Speaker 1: I think maybe I needed to hear that today, everything
- 6:17that's been going on, I've always remained stead fast in
- 6:22my faith, and I've always kept the faith despite everything
- 6:25that I have endured, things that I continue to endure,
- 6:28things that I go through, my storms, But I still
- 6:32come out victorious. So I again I want to say
- 6:37to everyone, no matter what it is that you're going through,
- 6:41keep the faith. Those storms don't last always, and y'all
- 6:45know that sometimes it's just a test. Sometimes we get overwhelmed,
- 6:49and I get it. I understand.
- 6:52Speaker 6: You know.
- 6:52Speaker 1: There are a lot of days where we just want
- 6:54to give up, a lot of days where we want
- 6:55to throw on a towel. But you can't give up.
- 6:58Maybe you can't, you can and I give up. So again,
- 7:03Happy Wednesday. I hope everyone is having an amazing day.
- 7:06I hope your week has been great to you thus far.
- 7:12But tonight's conversation is very, very very heavy. Let me
- 7:25let me because I told myself I was going to
- 7:30be able to do this. I was going to be
- 7:32able to have this conversation tonight because I myself have
- 7:39a black son, and I worry whenever he goes out
- 7:45and hangs with his friends. I worry because we are
- 7:51seeing far too many of our black boys that are
- 7:56going to hang out with their white friend friends and
- 8:00they're not making it back to us alive. In light
- 8:05of the news of Nolan Xavier Wells, I will touch
- 8:09on that next week. So tonight's conversation is black men deserve.
- 8:18Speaker 6: To grow old.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Black men deserve to grow old.
- 8:31Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I gotta pull it together because I said I was gonna,
- 8:36I was gonna be able to do this, and I
- 8:39can do it. July fourth, July fifth, we lost Nolan
- 8:52Xavier Wells, but he is not the only young man
- 9:01who has been out and outing with their Caucasian friends
- 9:06and have died. H This is rough. This is a
- 9:19very difficult, a very very very very very heavy topic
- 9:27because when I've noticed that when we have conversations like this,
- 9:33it's always, well, black men are killing other black men.
- 9:39Speaker 6: We know that.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Justice is also being served, but when it comes to
- 9:51the white people unliving our black men, it's ruled as
- 9:59a either a suicide or accident, and no one has
- 10:05ever held accountable. We're seeing all of that unfold right now.
- 10:14But I don't want to just talk about Nolan Xavier Wells.
- 10:22I want to speak about Daniel Irving. I want to
- 10:33talk about Daniel Irving, an eighteen year old that was
- 10:41out with some friends back in April of twenty twenty
- 10:46six and his body was recovered in the water. There's
- 10:58been no media cover Rich as always, when it comes
- 11:05to black boys, black girls, black men, and black women
- 11:09that go missing, there's always little to no media coverage.
- 11:15And I don't understand why do our lives not matter? Again?
- 11:23Do our black men not deserve the right to grow old?
- 11:27Do our young black men not deserve the right to
- 11:31get married, have children, go on and live beautiful lives?
- 11:38Apparently not.
- 11:42Speaker 6: So.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Before we continue into the conversation, here's a little brief
- 11:46background on the death of Daniel Irving.
- 11:54Speaker 7: Today night, the push for answers and the death of
- 11:56a North Texas teen. Three months after the body of
- 11:59eighteen year old Daniel Irving was found in Lake Gray Hubbard,
- 12:03there's been an arrest in connection with the case. Our
- 12:06Jala Washington breaks down the timeline of the last few
- 12:09months ahead of an update from attorneys tomorrow.
- 12:14Speaker 8: Photos from over the years are some of the few
- 12:15things eighteen year old Daniel Irvings family has left the
- 12:19body of the honorable high school senior who was on
- 12:21the swim team, according to his family, was found here
- 12:24in Lake Gray Hubbard nearly three months ago and hand
- 12:26in Hans. Since losing him, his loved ones are desperate
- 12:29for answers.
- 12:31Speaker 9: As a mother, I knew something had happened to my child.
- 12:34Speaker 8: On April thirteen, Daniel's mother says two males who were
- 12:37her son's friends picked him up from their home to
- 12:39go fishing. She says she couldn't reach him shortly after.
- 12:42Speaker 10: I call.
- 12:42Speaker 9: It takes my son multiple times and there was no reply.
- 12:46I was immediately immediately hellong.
- 12:50Speaker 8: The next day, on April fourteenth, she filed a missing
- 12:52persons report with the Roulette Police Department. Daniel had left
- 12:55behind his driver's license and money, which made her even
- 12:58more worried. After police put out a community alert online
- 13:02on April sixteenth, Daniel's body was found in ray Hubbard
- 13:05Lake on April seventeenth, four days after he went missing.
- 13:09Daniel's mom says police told her they couldn't ping his
- 13:11phone before then because of privacy laws.
- 13:14Speaker 11: They have been met with delays instead of accountability.
- 13:17Speaker 8: Civil Rights Advocacy Group's Next Generation Action Network and Justice
- 13:21Seekers are now working with the family and have criticized
- 13:24how the Routlet Police Department has handled the case. The
- 13:27group say one of the people Daniel was with before
- 13:29he went missing came forward after his body was found
- 13:33and said what happened was an accident.
- 13:35Speaker 11: Daniel left a home with somebody, went out there Lake
- 13:40Gray Hubbard with somebody, but nobody called his mother nor.
- 13:46Speaker 8: Called non level one Police arrested nineteen year old Lucas
- 13:49Roper on July ninth, nearly three months after Daniel's death,
- 13:54and charged him with tampering with evidence with the intent
- 13:57to ruin it.
- 13:57Speaker 3: And even if he did drown, why did it take
- 13:59you four or five days to say anything?
- 14:02Speaker 12: And that's what the family is under stirred about.
- 14:04Speaker 8: The Dallas Police Department is now taking over the investigation.
- 14:07Ralei Police told NBC five it was unable to discuss
- 14:10details while the investigation remains open.
- 14:12Speaker 1: We are only here to ask for truth.
- 14:15Speaker 8: Jayla Washington, NBC five.
- 14:18Speaker 7: The nineteen year old arrested is no longer listed as
- 14:21being in jail when we checked earlier today, and there
- 14:23was no attorney listed for him. Civil rights groups are
- 14:26now asking for transparency from Dallas PD as its agency
- 14:30leads the investigation. The Daniels family attorney will share more
- 14:33on an independent investigation tomorrow morning.
- 14:42Speaker 1: So we have a eighteen year old young man who
- 14:47left home on April thirteenth with two unidentified people. You've
- 14:57only arrested one I bring with evidence. Let's let this
- 15:07sink in for just a moment. Again, he left home
- 15:18and didn't return home. Four days later, you find his body.
- 15:29My question is, again, as the family has stated, why
- 15:34are we unable to get transparency? One of the things
- 15:38that I've noticed in a lot of these cases were
- 15:41always met with pushback. We want answers, we want to
- 15:46know what happened. And then you have these quote unquote
- 15:53friends that are changing up stories. They say one thing,
- 15:59they say something else, But again the families are still
- 16:05met with pushback. So again, Damniel Irving, eighteen years old,
- 16:13your body is found in the water, and like they
- 16:18said in the video, no one called the police. You
- 16:21didn't call his parents. What I don't understand is why
- 16:25did it take for the mother If he left with
- 16:28these two individuals. If you're seeing what happened to him
- 16:32was an accident, why didn't you call the police? Why
- 16:35didn't you alert somebody that right there alone is enough
- 16:39to raise suspicions. If you leave with me and something
- 16:44happens to you, the first thing I'm gonna do is
- 16:47I'm gonna call nine one one I'm gonna try to
- 16:49get in touch with your family, your friend, somebody. But
- 16:54we're seeing this happen far too often with little to
- 16:59no justice. I'm looking at a lot of these cases
- 17:04where they're finding black men hung from trees. Black people
- 17:10don't hang themselves from trees, and these stories, these cases
- 17:17are being ruled as suicides. Again, where is the transparency
- 17:25in all of this? And then some of these Texas Mississippi.
- 17:33Anyone that's familiar with Mississippi, you know they are so
- 17:36racist in Mississippi. We're looking at it right now. With
- 17:40Nolan Wells, we're looking we're witnessing that. But now we're
- 17:47looking at Diane Irving again, this young man went missing
- 17:51in April. Why was there no media coverage? Were Why
- 17:56are we just now starting to hear about these stories?
- 18:00But yet, and I know people may take offense to this,
- 18:03but yet we're still hearing about Scott Peterson who killed
- 18:08his pregnant wife. They got documentaries and I'm just saying,
- 18:16and you could take this how you want, but our
- 18:23lives are just as important. That's not to discredit lives
- 18:27that have been lost, But I want to speak about
- 18:29the black community and why we get little to no
- 18:32media coverage. I remember when my niece went missing. Her
- 18:37story was skated over by a woman and her dog
- 18:43that were found murdered in a park in Georgia. We
- 18:50were told, oh, it's nothing we could do, she's over eighteen.
- 18:57But Gaby Purtito, who I think was about that same age, billboards,
- 19:05that was breaking news, interviews, everything. But when in the
- 19:11black a black boy, black girl, black man, a black
- 19:14woman goes missing, we get twenty seconds and that's it.
- 19:20You don't hear no more about it. I'm very surprised
- 19:26that Nolan Wells is getting as much coverage as he is.
- 19:31I'm very surprised. I'm very grateful because I hope that
- 19:39his case will blow the doors wide open for these
- 19:42other cases of these black boys and black girls that
- 19:47go on these social outings with their white friends, but
- 19:50they're not returning home to us. But a lot of
- 19:58y'all don't want to have that conversation. This could be
- 20:02your baby that I'm sitting up here talking about. This
- 20:06could be your nephew, this could be a cousin, a brother.
- 20:11Wouldn't you want someone to get up and speak, wouldn't
- 20:16you want more media coverage. Wouldn't you want people out here?
- 20:24But we're not getting it. And that's the disheartening part
- 20:27about all of this. I am so glad that Nolan
- 20:36Wells is getting coverage. I am so happy, But I
- 20:42need that same energy to be helped for Daniel Irving.
- 20:46I need that same energy to be held for Gerard Jackson,
- 20:49for Dionne Walton. We want transparency. We're calling for transparency.
- 20:58We don't want to hear that, oh, well, there was
- 21:01no fil plan. How do you know without a thorough investigation?
- 21:07How do you know? Again talking about Daniel Irving, this
- 21:14baby went missing in April, and I just heard about
- 21:21this story about a week ago, maybe when they arrested
- 21:31one guy for tampering with evidence. What does he say?
- 21:43We understand it's an investigation, but again, this family has waited.
- 21:52We're in July. This baby went missing in April, May,
- 21:56June July. Here we are almost four months later, and
- 22:02the parents are still left with questions, questions. We're definitely
- 22:13gonna get into Nolan Wells, not today. I need a
- 22:19moment to process m I need a moment of process
- 22:28this with Nola and Wells. So we're definitely gonna talk
- 22:31speak on him. But Daniel Irving, eighteen years old drown
- 22:47in Texas. I want to say, not too far from
- 22:53the city where Carmelo Anthony was found guilty.
- 23:00Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 23:01Speaker 1: So Daniel Irving again, eighteen years old, went missing April
- 23:12thirteenth of twenty twenty six. Somebody was recovered April seventeen.
- 23:24I believe one or two people have been arrested. I
- 23:27know one person was charged with tampering with evidence, and
- 23:35all he said was it was an accident. But what
- 23:38was accident? What happened?
- 23:42Speaker 6: What did y'all do to him?
- 23:46Speaker 1: And missed me with that old he committed suicide?
- 23:49Speaker 6: No, no, miss me with that.
- 23:58Speaker 1: I'm so let me tell you, oh, I am so
- 24:00sick oherent that narrative whenever they find a black person
- 24:07hung somewhere or in the woods, or it was a suicide,
- 24:15no foul play. I'm still waiting on justice for Kendrick Johnson,
- 24:23that was the young man they found rolled up in
- 24:25the gym matt in Georgia. We're still waiting for justice
- 24:28for that family because there's let me tell you, there
- 24:34is nothing in this world that will make me believe
- 24:39that that baby did that to himself. I believe that
- 24:44that footage was altered because we see him going to
- 24:48the gym, but we don't see him come out. Then
- 24:52all of a sudden, you find him head first, rolled
- 24:55up in a gym map and the shoes are missing.
- 25:00We're still waiting on justice for Kendrick Johnson. Still again,
- 25:08no media coverage. When deaths like this happened to our
- 25:13black men and I were black women, I were Black girls,
- 25:16and I were black boys, we get zero coverage. I'm
- 25:20still waiting for answers on what happened to Tamla Horsford.
- 25:28That was that black lady who went to this sleepover
- 25:34at her white neighbor's house, and somehow she ended up dead.
- 25:38Out of all the women that were there, she was
- 25:40the only one that ended.
- 25:41Speaker 6: Up dead, the only one.
- 25:46Speaker 1: So make this make sense to me, Make this all
- 25:50make sense to me. I don't believe that that woman
- 25:57went over there and committed suicide. They found this woman,
- 26:00I believe at the bottom of the of the of
- 26:01the patio. Out of all the women at this slumber party,
- 26:05this sleepover, Tamala Horsel was the only one that was
- 26:09that was that passed away, the only one. Again still
- 26:16no media coverage, Still still no justice. You still have
- 26:25a family demanding answers. We haven't forgotten, at least I
- 26:33know I have not forgotten. And then we have all
- 26:40these black men that they have found hanging from trees.
- 26:46One young man they found his legs were broken. So
- 26:50how could he climb up in a tree to hang
- 26:53himself if his legs were broken? This is nick and
- 26:59zero sense to me. All we're calling for and asking
- 27:05for is transparency. Black men, black women, black boys, and
- 27:11black girls deserve the same thorough investigation as the white counterparts.
- 27:20Speaker 6: I said that.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Some of y'all may not like that and say, oh,
- 27:25she's being racist. No I'm not. I'm just being honest
- 27:30and telling you my views and how I feel. Black men,
- 27:37black women, black boys, and black girls deserve the same
- 27:40amount of media coverage and investigative work as the whites.
- 27:46When they go missing, we hear about it for two
- 27:50or three weeks. Here we are John Bonnet Ramsey has
- 27:55been dead how many years? And we're still hearing about her.
- 28:04We're still hearing about lazy Peterson or they want to
- 28:07give Scott Peterson a new trial. Why we know he
- 28:10did it. But this is what I mean when I
- 28:15say there's a difference when black people go missing versus
- 28:19one White people go missing. White people get billboards, they
- 28:22get put on flyers, they get documentaries, but when it's
- 28:28one of us, we.
- 28:30Speaker 6: Don't get that.
- 28:34Speaker 1: If that's the type of things that we want, we
- 28:37have to spend our money. I'm still surprised that so
- 28:43much time and money was invested in carl It Russell
- 28:47and she turned out to be a ball faced liar.
- 28:53I'm surprised. But with carl It Russell, you made it
- 29:04even harder for black people that go missing to get
- 29:09any type of media coverage. You made it very difficult
- 29:13because you lied, you weren't even missing. You did all
- 29:18of that for what. But there are really truly black boys,
- 29:25black girls, black men, and black women that are out
- 29:27here missing. That's not being taken seriously. Again, Daniel Irving
- 29:38body was found April seventeenth after leaving home with two
- 29:41unidentified individuals. And this body was found in the lake. Again,
- 29:47I didn't hear it. I just heard about this case
- 29:51a week ago. Then we have another young man, Jackson,
- 30:03who was at an outing, a social outing with his
- 30:07white friends, and his body was found in the woods.
- 30:12But they say, oh, it was a suicide. Not every
- 30:21black person out here is suicidal. But Gerard Jackson, twenty
- 30:28eight years old went to a concert and electric fiells Michigan.
- 30:36I want to see. Let me get that pulled back up.
- 30:39I want to say that's where he was June the thirtieth.
- 30:47So here we are. So it was in Michigan. So
- 30:52I was correct in Michigan twenty eight years old. It
- 31:01was from Illinois. He went to confessor and they're saying,
- 31:09so I apologize. He was reported missing July twenty ninth.
- 31:15Let me go back and say that. And they found
- 31:18him hanging in a tree. They say his wallet and
- 31:28his keys was left in the rental car. Make this
- 31:35make sense? They say, oh, preliminary that he died from suicide.
- 31:50They said he was reported missing sing on June the
- 31:55twenty ninth. They say his bible was later they're found
- 31:58in a wooded area near his parked rental vehicle, and
- 32:03troopers responded to Jackson's campsite after he reported an alleged
- 32:07criminal incident involving a friend. They say he left his
- 32:17cell phone, phone, and other personal belongs behind. Let's let's
- 32:28let's double back on this one more time. So he
- 32:33calls the police on a friend to report a criminal activity, okay,
- 32:43and then he winds up there after this alleged criminal
- 32:52incident that took place. They say he left his left
- 32:57behind his cell phone and its personal belongs. Do you
- 33:04see how a lot of these stories are in correlation
- 33:10with one another. Or they left they mysteriously left their
- 33:13cell phones behind. And let me tell you something, in
- 33:17this day and age, ain't nobody leaving without their cell phone? Nobody, nobody,
- 33:25I don't care what you say. Nobody, white, yellow, purple, black, orange, green, yellow.
- 33:31Nobody's leaving without their cell phone. Nobody. People in this world.
- 33:38Let me tell you something. We can't even function in
- 33:40this world without our cell phones. Everybody your walk past
- 33:45has a cell phone in their head, everybody. But notice
- 33:52this seems to be the same em in Daniel Irvian's case,
- 34:00Gerard Jackson's case, and Nolan Wells case and Daniel Irving's case.
- 34:07They say, oh, well, we couldn't ping for privacy reasons.
- 34:11What so you mean to tell me if you found
- 34:18this young man's body in the water, wouldn't common sense
- 34:25tell you again to ping? Wherever their last location was.
- 34:31But you go and you tell the family you can't
- 34:34ping it for privacy reasons. Doesn't sound like they're trying
- 34:40to do an investigation to me. Sounds to me they're
- 34:42trying to sweep this baby's murder under the rug. Then
- 34:47you look at Gerard Jackson, twenty eight years old, who
- 34:52went missing June. He was reported missing June twenty ninth
- 34:58after a phone call to law enforcement for a criminal
- 35:05activity on a friend. And then this baby's body is
- 35:12found in the woods and they say, oh, he let
- 35:18the cell phone, he left his personal belongings, I believe
- 35:21the keys and his whilet we're in the car. Yeah,
- 35:32So that doesn't sound a little suspicious to you. That
- 35:34doesn't make you stop and question and say, wait a minute,
- 35:38this is this doesn't sound right. This is not adding up.
- 35:51So here's a little more information regarding Gerard Jackson, and
- 35:57then we'll dip back into this conversation.
- 36:02Speaker 4: Holliday quickly turning into a tragedy for a Covington County
- 36:06family who lost their loved one in a drowning just
- 36:08days ago on the fourth of July.
- 36:11Speaker 1: My apology shoe the wrong story. Here we go.
- 36:16Speaker 13: Police are investigating the death of a man who attended
- 36:19the Electric Forest Music Festival near Rothberry. His body was
- 36:22found this morning along a trail near the festival grounds.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Police say the twenty eight year old from Illinois died
- 36:28by suicide after leaving a group of friends and his
- 36:30personal belongings back at the festival.
- 36:32Speaker 13: Thirteen on your Sidze, Michael Martin joins us now after
- 36:35speaking with investigators and witnesses Michael Juliette Lauren.
- 36:38Speaker 14: The day before his body was found in this wooded area,
- 36:42the man had been speaking with state police. Witnesses say
- 36:45it was a fairly normal conversation who was trying to
- 36:48report a crime that police now say they don't believe
- 36:51ever happened.
- 36:53Speaker 12: Some people in the community are worried for it outrightly,
- 36:56as they should be, because you never know what you're
- 36:58going to see or go on.
- 37:00Speaker 14: After four days of music, art connection at Electric for
- 37:03his twenty twenty six.
- 37:05Speaker 12: It's a vacation for a lot of people, but we
- 37:07all have to come back to our friends and our
- 37:08families back home.
- 37:10Speaker 14: The body of a twenty eight year old man from
- 37:12Illinois was found just off a trail several miles southeast
- 37:16of the grounds.
- 37:17Speaker 15: I had to go get a ride to drop some
- 37:19camping supplies off to some of the people I was with,
- 37:21and he was talking on two state police officers the.
- 37:24Speaker 14: Day before He's found a few hours before he disappears,
- 37:28people like Hunter Rose see the man speaking with state police.
- 37:32MSP says the man had called them to report a crime.
- 37:35They investigated and say they found no evidence that the
- 37:38crime ever happened.
- 37:40Speaker 15: It seemed to be cordial and nothing seemed to be
- 37:42too wrong or anything. He was just reporting something.
- 37:44Speaker 14: Shortly after that, he took off in a rented vehicle,
- 37:48leaving his friends in cell phone behind.
- 37:51Speaker 15: Le're just wondering what's going on with him, and I
- 37:52figured i'd let someone know I saw something, because you
- 37:55never know.
- 37:55Speaker 14: A reliable source close to the investigation tells thirteen On
- 37:59your Side. The man's friends told investigators he had been
- 38:02up for nearly forty eight hours and had been using
- 38:06substances when he left. The rental vehicle was found near
- 38:10the man's body, his wallet and keys still inside.
- 38:13Speaker 15: We have some looking back to do on certain things,
- 38:15I think, but Forrest is a great place. Don't mind
- 38:18a couple bad things bring it down as a whole,
- 38:20just like other things going on.
- 38:22Speaker 12: You never know.
- 38:25Speaker 14: State Police said in a statement that they extend their
- 38:28sincere condolences to the man's family and loved ones during
- 38:31this difficult time. If you have information that you might
- 38:34believe could be relevant in any way to the case,
- 38:37you can reach out to State Police. Michael Martin thirteen
- 38:40on your side.
- 38:43Speaker 1: So let's let us sink in for just a moment.
- 38:49You're saying he was having a conversation with the state
- 38:54police to report a crime against a friend or friends.
- 39:01They say, oh, they didn't find any evidence of a crime, Okay,
- 39:06But then a few hours later he's missing. The friends say, oh,
- 39:14he's been up for two days on some kind of substance.
- 39:20Has there been an autopsy? That's what we're trying to
- 39:26figure out. Is there an autopsy other than the preliminary
- 39:34where you say, oh, it was a suicide. But as
- 39:40wild and keys were left in the car and his
- 39:43body was found not too far from the vehicle, that
- 39:49doesn't sound suspicious to you. Again, I've seen no additional
- 39:59updates regarding this young man. Let me go back, let
- 40:03me just double back. I'm gonna see but no, our toopsy,
- 40:10No nothing, I'm looking give me just a moment. We're
- 40:15gonna see. We know the family is demanding justice, they
- 40:22want a full investigation. Hmm.
- 40:34Speaker 6: This is just.
- 40:38Speaker 1: H How much more of this do we have to
- 40:42continue to endure? When are we gonna started getting again?
- 40:51And I'm gonna repeat this and I'm gonna scream it
- 40:54from the rooftops. Why no justice when it comes to
- 41:05these mysterious deaths of our black men, black boys, black
- 41:11women and black girls. Again, it's always ruled as a suicide,
- 41:21no foul play. Wasn't that the same thing they said
- 41:25with Nolan Wells? And now look conflicting stories, text messages deleted.
- 41:39Let's see we have so Gerard Jackson, he said soon
- 41:57after report onto his fingerup. It says Jackson moved himself
- 42:02away from the group after reported missing. It says at
- 42:12this time, a final report from the medical examiner is
- 42:15waiting to be released to determine the cause of death.
- 42:18But we know what they're going to say. It was
- 42:28a suicide. We knew they say it all the time
- 42:33when our black men and black boys go missing. That's
- 42:41what we see and that's what we hear every time.
- 42:52But at what point do y'all say our lives matter again?
- 43:00I don't want to hear the but y'all kill each other.
- 43:04Speaker 2: We know this.
- 43:07Speaker 1: But one thing that we do know is justice is
- 43:10always served. Because we know Ray Ray Shapuki. We know
- 43:16that Ray Ray gets sent us to the fullest extent
- 43:21of the law. But when you have a Jared or
- 43:27a Timmy that unalyves one of us, it's foul play.
- 43:37Their family members are related to a judge, or they're
- 43:42somehow connected to someone in a higher position that wants
- 43:48to sweep this under the rug. But at what point
- 43:54do we stop allowing them to do this? At what
- 43:58part do we at what stands do we finally come
- 44:02together and say enough is enough. We need justice for
- 44:06our black boys, our black girls, our black men, and
- 44:08our black women. When are we gonna come together and
- 44:12start demanding this. When are we gonna stop accepting the
- 44:18bare minimum When it comes to what these medical examiners
- 44:22and what these police officers and these crime scene investigators
- 44:25tell us, we just say, Okay, well, yeah, it was
- 44:31a suicide. You're just gonna lay down and take that
- 44:37no again. At what point are we gonna finally come
- 44:45together and demand justice. Why haven't we come together to
- 44:51get justice for Kendrick Johnson. Why haven't we come together
- 44:54to get justice for Tamla Horsford Again, you have families
- 44:59that are still left with unanswered questions. You have families
- 45:05that are still out five six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
- 45:09eleven years later, still trying to figure out what happened
- 45:12to my loved one, especially when they've been out at
- 45:18social gatherings with their white friends. We're seeing this way
- 45:27too often, and yet everybody's wanting to be silent. Everybody's
- 45:33willing to just take whatever they tell you. Oh, well,
- 45:38he died from suicide. Okay. We have to stop being
- 45:47so quick to say accepting of whatever they tell us.
- 45:53If this is your child, if this is your loved one,
- 45:57you should want justice and you shouldn't stop fighting. Push
- 46:03for it to be on the news stations. Push for
- 46:05it to be on these on get on social media.
- 46:10I'm encouraging y'all. If you see a story like this
- 46:12that's in your city, in your town, your state, we
- 46:15can't see everything, start sharing, because that's the only way
- 46:22we're gonna be able to take us stances. If we
- 46:24know about this, we have to start rallying together. We
- 46:29have to start coming together for things that make sense.
- 46:32Start standing in line, in line for five, six, seventy
- 46:35eighty nine, ten hours for an iPhone or some Jordans
- 46:38or whatever new item that's coming out. And let's go
- 46:41stand at these polls. Let's go stand up at these
- 46:46judicial sit at these hearings, these public hearings. Most of
- 46:52the point, we gotta go to the polls, because it
- 46:55starts at the lower level. If you want to see
- 46:57a change in your city, in your town, and your state,
- 47:00you gotta go to the polls. You understand, you gotta vote.
- 47:03We are the people responsible for putting these judges in
- 47:07their seats, for putting these chief of police in their positions,
- 47:11for these city council We're responsible for that. When you
- 47:15get a summons for jerry duty, go stop saying, oh,
- 47:19I don't want to go to jerry duty. Why that's
- 47:23the only way we're gonna be able to make a difference.
- 47:30But we're so far forgetting, we're so forgiving that we
- 47:35just take whatever they tell us. I'm not accepting the
- 47:37fact that Gerard Jackson committed suicide because it's too mysterious
- 47:43that after he reported a suspicious crime to the group
- 47:47of friends that he was went to the police. This
- 47:49baby ends up dead. You have Daniel Irving, eighteen years old,
- 47:55who left his home April thirteenth. We're two unidentified people. Again,
- 48:00we don't know if it was two males, two females,
- 48:02a male and a fee. We don't know. Four days later,
- 48:06this baby's body is found and the police tell the family, oh, well,
- 48:11we can't trackt opinion for privacy issues. What if this
- 48:16baby was if this baby's bottle body was found out
- 48:20here in the water, what was he at prior? You
- 48:23don't think that's imperative to the investigation. You don't feel
- 48:26like that's not imperative to the family. And then we
- 48:32look at Nolan Wells text message is deleted. Kid's stories
- 48:38are changing, but y'all are willing to just sit back
- 48:42and just take whatever. No, when are we gonna start
- 48:46standing up for our black boys, our black girls that
- 48:49were black men, that were black women. When are we
- 48:51gonna start standing up for that? When are we gonna
- 48:54start pushing us to the forefront? When are we gonna
- 48:56start pushing these stories to the forefront? Again, here we
- 49:00are twenty something years later, and we're still hearing about
- 49:02John Bane Ramsey. Here we are ten years later, however,
- 49:06many years we're still hearing about Lady Peterson. That don't
- 49:14make you sick, That don't make you upset. We've heard
- 49:18nothing more about Tamla Horsburg. We've heard nothing about Daniel Irvy.
- 49:23We've heard nothing about Gerard Jackson. We still hear nothing
- 49:30about Kendrick Johnson. What about the other young lady who
- 49:37they found drowning, Who's I want to say? She had
- 49:42went out with her babysitter, her white babysitter in this
- 49:45little girl was found dead in the water. If you
- 49:54could get this is the issue that I have with
- 49:57social media. Social media could be a good and a
- 50:02bad thing. But some of the shit that you're excuse
- 50:08my language, but some of the stuff that y'all post,
- 50:15But y'all won't post about these black boys that are missing,
- 50:20these black girls that are missing, these black women that
- 50:23are missing, these black men that are missing. But y'all
- 50:27always have so much to say when we finally do
- 50:31hear about it, But yet you do nothing. You do
- 50:38nothing but sit and complain. You won't go to the
- 50:43polls and vote. Because I've seen quite a few of
- 50:47them on my time on my Facebook timeline. Or I'm
- 50:50not voting, my vote doesn't matter anyway, I'm not going
- 50:54to jerry duty. Okay, you're not well, then don't complain
- 51:02when you could have made a difference. Don't complain when
- 51:10that particular person is the chief of police. Stop complaining
- 51:18when this particular person is the judge. Stop complaining when
- 51:23this person is on a city council or your school board.
- 51:26Don't complain because remember, your voice don't matter. Remember that's
- 51:31what you say. But then you get up here and
- 51:34your hoop and holland you say, oh, we gotta do this,
- 51:37we gotta do that. Well, then if you're not doing anything,
- 51:39you're a part of the problem. See me, let me
- 51:43tell you something about me. I've never had a problem
- 51:46with shaking the table. I've never had a problem with
- 51:48putting things on the forefront. I've never had an issue
- 51:50with putting things on a table that are uncomfortable for
- 51:52a lot of people. Because see, y'all don't want to offend.
- 51:56I don't mind. See I get out here and I
- 52:01do this, I vote, even at the lower level. I
- 52:10get up here and I have these conversations some that
- 52:13y'all shy away from because again, you don't wanna offend.
- 52:19But one thing about me, I'm aa always stand for
- 52:23the ones that look like me before I stand for
- 52:25anyone else. And you could take that how you want,
- 52:30but I'm gonna protect me. I'm gonna look out for
- 52:32me and those that look like me. I want justice
- 52:39for Nolan Wells, I want justice for Gerard Jackson. I
- 52:43want justice for Daniel Irving because you know why, Gerard
- 52:48Jackson could have been my son. Daniel Irving could have
- 52:50been my son. Nolan Wells could have been my son.
- 52:53Dione Walton could have been my son. He could have
- 52:55been your son, he could have been your brother, he
- 52:57could have been your cousin. But you don't say anything
- 53:05because you don't want to offend. Don't you think we're
- 53:10offended when these stories come out, and again we get
- 53:14little to no media coverage. As I said, when my
- 53:19niece went missing, her story was passed over for a
- 53:22woman and adult that were found dead in a park.
- 53:29You don't think we didn't try to fight with the police.
- 53:31You know what they told us, Well, she's over eighteen,
- 53:36she's an adult. We can't do anything. Police knew who
- 53:45to go look for. You think they did no. And
- 53:50not only did he kill her, but he murthered another
- 53:54young lady. And it could be others out there. But
- 54:00this is what we do. I bring these types, I
- 54:04bring these topics and conversations to the forefront so we
- 54:07can talk about them, so we can discuss them. We
- 54:11have to have these conversations because it's too many of
- 54:14our children that are leaving out but they're not coming
- 54:17back home. Nolan Wells could be your son. You could
- 54:26be that parent standing on the other side of that
- 54:28podium begging and crying for justice because your child passed
- 54:33under mysterious circumstances. I don't want to let me tell
- 54:37you something. I don't want to high powered attorneys out there.
- 54:41I don't want none of that. I want my community
- 54:45to rally with me. So I'm asking y'all, this could
- 54:52be your baby, this could be your son, your nephew,
- 54:57your cousin. Start speaking out. Stop being so afraid to offend.
- 55:06I don't want to put that because I don't want
- 55:08to be what I'm gonna have this conversation because at
- 55:16the end of the day, I does I believe black
- 55:20men deserve to grow old. And again, I've had this
- 55:25conversation before, and you know what I've heard again, But
- 55:29black men kill each other. They're killing each other. We
- 55:31know this. You don't think we don't know. You don't
- 55:35think we're not tired of that either. But one of
- 55:38the things that we're very tired of is that when
- 55:41Jeffrey or Michael or Paul kills Daniel or Gerard or Nolan,
- 55:52we get no justice. Or when Brett kills Hendrick it's
- 56:01an accident, it's suicide. Stories ain't matching up, timeline ain't
- 56:10coming out like it's supposed to. But this is this
- 56:14is what we see every day. I tell my son
- 56:20every day when he goes out with his friends, be careful.
- 56:26Make it back home to me. We got parents right
- 56:33now wondering what happened to their child. They're wondering, but
- 56:46nobody wants to have that conversation. Y'all keep saying enough
- 56:52is enough. This needs to stop. Then what are you
- 56:54gonna do? Just keep posting about it on social media?
- 56:58Are you gonna really get up and do something? Are
- 57:00you really going to get up and be a part
- 57:01of their community? M Are you going to be a
- 57:11part of the problem or a part of the solution.
- 57:16That's the million dollar question, because again, you could be
- 57:23sitting on the other side of that podium, begging for
- 57:27justice for your child, calling on the community to come
- 57:33in and help and rally. Say I'm not new to this.
- 57:42I do this, do I post and brag about it
- 57:45on social media? Note for what not everything needs a
- 57:51video camera and not everything needs to be regarded. But
- 57:57a few times that I have shared, y'all have seen
- 58:00me at these rallies, protesting, marching because I gotta think
- 58:09about mine. I have three children, three black children, so
- 58:20I'm gonna do whatever I have to do to stand
- 58:22up for them for their rights, not just theirs, but
- 58:26your child's rights. So I get out here and this
- 58:31is what I do. I have these conversations. I'm not
- 58:36afraid y'all don't want to do it because you don't
- 58:41want to offend nobody. Y'all just post what looks good
- 58:48on social media, but y'all not really about that. Yes,
- 58:53I'm calling y'all out.
- 58:57Speaker 6: Again.
- 58:57Speaker 1: Do you want to be a part of the problem
- 58:59or part of the solution. We have to start demanding things.
- 59:10We have to stop settling for whatever it is, They
- 59:13tell us again, I look at Gerard Jackson's case. Shung
- 59:24Man was twenty eight years old. I look at Daniel
- 59:32Irving eighteen years old. I look at Dionne Walton seventeen
- 59:41years old, drowned in a lake.
- 59:53Speaker 6: No media coverage.
- 59:58Speaker 1: And he died the same weekend as New Wells. Yeah, seventeen.
- 1:00:12Can we call.
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: Holiday quickly turning into a tragedy for a Covington County
- 1:00:18family who lost their loved one in a drowning just
- 1:00:21days ago on the fourth of July. Wd Agen's Robert
- 1:00:24Smith Junior has the latest.
- 1:00:26Speaker 16: The stomachs of Jason Walton and John Walden turned after
- 1:00:29they were at the store getting food to grill out
- 1:00:31for the holiday when they got a frightening call from
- 1:00:33their nephew, Dion Walton's football coach, that he went missing
- 1:00:36in a community lake.
- 1:00:38Speaker 17: He was like, hey, Jason, where you guys are. I
- 1:00:41was like, well, we just got home from the grocery store.
- 1:00:44And he was like, you guys need to get here asap.
- 1:00:47And I was like, well, what do you mean and
- 1:00:49he was like, it's involving Dion.
- 1:00:51Speaker 16: They went to the community lake off Harmony Church road
- 1:00:54in Coventon County, where Walton was with some of his
- 1:00:56teammates celebrating the holiday.
- 1:00:58Speaker 17: We've seen all these polices there and then we pulled
- 1:01:01into the driveway on the side of the house, and
- 1:01:04then I saw the rescue squad. They were boat divers
- 1:01:09searching out there into what I'm like, why are these
- 1:01:12people out here? And so he parked the car and
- 1:01:14I rushed ran to the dock quick, and I was like, well,
- 1:01:20one of the parents came up. I said, what's going on?
- 1:01:22Speaker 16: His family says they were told. Walton and some friends
- 1:01:24jumped off the pier into the lake to see who
- 1:01:26could swim to a small island in the middle of
- 1:01:29the lake the fastest. But Dion struggled as he was
- 1:01:32cramping in the water. After turning back towards the pier,
- 1:01:35calling for help, trying to grab onto a floaty, he
- 1:01:37was already starting to sing underwater.
- 1:01:39Speaker 17: The parent that owned the home, he said, he rushed
- 1:01:42out there to the pond and he jumped in to
- 1:01:44try to look for him, and all the other players
- 1:01:45turned around and tried to search for him, and they
- 1:01:47just could not find him. And I was just I
- 1:01:53don't know, it's a lot. It's just it's not even real.
- 1:01:56Don't even seem real to me.
- 1:01:58Speaker 16: Family says Dion was a mediuker swimmer and he was
- 1:02:01used to pools, but not lakes where you can't see
- 1:02:03the bottom. Although this is a tragedy, family says, there
- 1:02:06is one message that comes out of this.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Be careful.
- 1:02:09Speaker 10: That's I mean, you don't want to put the message
- 1:02:11out there that says, hey, you know, don't get in
- 1:02:14there on this holiday or you may suffer these consequences.
- 1:02:20That's that's not the message.
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: The message is.
- 1:02:23Speaker 10: Be careful and try to take there cautions and everything
- 1:02:26that you do. Maybe, you know, if I know him,
- 1:02:31get maybe get the life rap.
- 1:02:33Speaker 16: His uncle say his teammates loved the un To know
- 1:02:35him was to love him. He was a seventeen year
- 1:02:37old student at straw In High School who ran track,
- 1:02:40played football and basketball and.
- 1:02:42Speaker 17: He just had, you know, so much of you know,
- 1:02:46a brightness of future ahead of him. And it just
- 1:02:51sucks that it happened, you know, what happened on Saturday,
- 1:02:54and he just he had so much more to give.
- 1:02:57Speaker 16: Family says he was full of energy and life, love
- 1:03:00to rap and sing, be acting.
- 1:03:02Speaker 10: But that's that's a teenager, but he brings them in
- 1:03:06with that smile on that laugh, and that's what most
- 1:03:11people will remember and miss.
- 1:03:13Speaker 16: All the school will have a vigilant memory of him.
- 1:03:16Friday Night in Coventin County Robert Smith, w DH and
- 1:03:19news for the White Grass.
- 1:03:24Speaker 6: It just.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: All these black boys just devastates me. That's one of
- 1:03:42the reasons why I think I pray so hard over
- 1:03:46my children, is because I see what's going on out
- 1:03:51here in the world, and these kids are just not
- 1:03:58making it back home. What should be a night of
- 1:04:03fun somehow ends in a night of tragedy.
- 1:04:14Speaker 5: What do we do?
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? What can we do
- 1:04:25now proactively? How do we truly seek justice for these children?
- 1:04:41When there's lack of transparency, when there's conflicting stories, when
- 1:04:47phone numbers I'm sorry, when text messages are being deleted,
- 1:04:57they keep asking us do we care? Do y'all care?
- 1:05:07It hurts my heart when I see these stories, knowing
- 1:05:13that I myself was only other than the social media
- 1:05:18asking social media to help find my niece, and only
- 1:05:29a handful of people shared. But then when I expressed
- 1:05:35that she had been found but was deceased, and it
- 1:05:40was Oh my god, We're so sorry. It's the help
- 1:05:51of convenience, is what I call it. But when it's
- 1:05:57one of your loved ones, then oh, please help, please help,
- 1:06:01please help, stop picking and choosing.
- 1:06:07Speaker 6: Who to help.
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: Again. I'm so grateful that Nolan Wells family is getting
- 1:06:22the coverage and praying that they receive the justice that
- 1:06:28they so righteously deserve. I continue to pray over the
- 1:06:34family of Daniel Irving. I pray that your baby gets justice.
- 1:06:47For the family of Gerard Jackson, I pray your family
- 1:06:50gets justice. I pray that Kendrick Johnson's family will one
- 1:06:59day get you justice. For Tamela horsef It's family, I
- 1:07:06pray you get justice for the countless other families who've
- 1:07:16lost their loved ones and mysterious manners. I pray you'll
- 1:07:25get justice. I will always stand on the side of
- 1:07:33black men deserving to grow old. Mhm. This is heavy
- 1:07:55and it hurts my brother says. We have to rewire
- 1:08:01our current way of thinking in this new society. Absolutely,
- 1:08:09because this justice for this family is so deserving. Again,
- 1:08:18Kendrick Johnson has been gone. Let me see. I'm gonna
- 1:08:21tell you, Kendrick Johnson has been gone since twenty thirteen,
- 1:08:34thirteen years later, and this family still has gotten no justice.
- 1:08:48We look at Tamla Horsford. Tamla Horsford has been missing.
- 1:09:01I just had here we go twenty eighteen, almost six years.
- 1:09:21There see that this lady was in that this young
- 1:09:26woman was intoxicated and fell from a balcony, but her
- 1:09:36official cause of death was ruled as multiple blood force injuries.
- 1:09:44They saved from an accidental fault. But again, Tamla horsef
- 1:09:50was at a sleepover with one, two, three, four, five, six,
- 1:09:56seven white women, and you mean to tell me she
- 1:10:01was the only one that died. But no one can
- 1:10:08seem to say what happened. Oh, she was drunk, she fell.
- 1:10:14If this is your friend, why didn't you make sure
- 1:10:17she got in the baby or got upstairs or wherever
- 1:10:20it was that you ladies were sleeping. You have a
- 1:10:26family is still waiting for justice. You do, and then
- 1:10:41you have this beautiful, beautiful let me tell you. Let's see.
- 1:10:59Oh her babysitter, I believe she was thirteen or ten.
- 1:11:14Let me see if I could find a story here
- 1:11:22she was eleven years old. Angelique Cunningham, is this baby's
- 1:11:31name Angelie Cunningham. I couldn't remember the baby's name, but
- 1:11:46Angelie Cunningham is her name. Let me pull this up
- 1:11:52really quickly, and this was July the sixth, because what
- 1:12:05I want to know is why at that time of night,
- 1:12:24I want to snighttime, taking eleven year old child on
- 1:12:36a boat ride on the night of July first. Why
- 1:13:03they say it was consistent with drowning, but they say
- 1:13:13it's accidental. So again, the woman was only charged with
- 1:13:29felony child endangerment. But again, make this make sense to me,
- 1:13:44because who in their right mind we'll tak an eleven
- 1:13:48year old child on a boat ride at eleven o'clock
- 1:13:52at night? Something suspicious about that. I pray for Angelie
- 1:14:04Cunningham's family that justice has served, that the truth will
- 1:14:11come out about what really happened with this baby, because
- 1:14:21out of the three people that were on the boat,
- 1:14:23only one left. But that's just me. Maybe that's my war.
- 1:14:30Twar's the way of thinking. Maybe over thinking. I don't know,
- 1:14:34But again I'm still trying to make it make sense
- 1:14:36as to why this eleven year old baby was on
- 1:14:42a boat ride at ten thirty eleven o'clock at night.
- 1:14:50But hey, who am I'm just a podcaster. So tonight's
- 1:15:02episode will continue. There will be a part two because
- 1:15:06I really want to get into the Nolen Wells case
- 1:15:12and speak about the updates that we have regarding this
- 1:15:19young man's odtopsy and the undetermined cause of death. I
- 1:15:27want to know your thoughts. How do you feel? Do
- 1:15:37you feel like it's something suspicious? Do you feel like
- 1:15:41maybe this was an accident, or do you just not
- 1:15:44feel anything at all? Hold on to those questions because
- 1:15:54we definitely have to have a part two of this
- 1:15:57because again, I really, really, really truly want to get
- 1:16:01into this about Newel and Wells, because this case brings
- 1:16:13near deer into my heart.
- 1:16:19Speaker 6: But you hold that.
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: So as I bring tonight's episode to a close, I
- 1:16:28want to end by saying to my black men, you
- 1:16:37are so wanted, you are so needed, you are so loved.
- 1:16:46You are greatness, You're spectacular, you're phenomenal, You're imperfectly perfect.
- 1:16:57But most importantly, I love you. And I do want
- 1:17:02to see my black men grow old. I want to
- 1:17:06see my brothers with their grandchildren, great grandchildren, live long,
- 1:17:13beautiful lives, flourish in your careers, reach every limit possible.
- 1:17:24That's what I want to say to my black men,
- 1:17:31because you're great. You're phenomenal. I don't even think there's
- 1:17:39enough words in the dictionary to even describe black men.
- 1:17:48Some of y'all get on my nerves. Some of y'all
- 1:17:50do stuff you ain't got no business. But you know what,
- 1:17:52I love you anyway, into my black men, I got you.
- 1:18:06I walk with you, I stand with you. I open
- 1:18:12up a circle of safety for you black men, take
- 1:18:22care of yourself because regardless and I've said this so
- 1:18:28many times, regardless of what the world says, regardless of
- 1:18:32what society says about black men, I still love you.
- 1:18:41I still honor you, I still cherish you. Yes, I
- 1:18:46will uphold you in your wrongdoing. But I'm gonna love
- 1:18:49you in the midst of all of that, because you
- 1:18:54black men deserve that. The world is so unkind to y'all,
- 1:19:02and I don't like that. M Black men, you rock.
- 1:19:14Not just the black girls rock, but you black men.
- 1:19:17Speaker 9: You rock.
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: I love you, God bless you. M So tomorrow night
- 1:19:33we're gonna kick it off early because I know we're
- 1:19:35probably gonna be talking about Nolan. I know we're gonna
- 1:19:38be discussing Nolan Wills, and I know this is gonna
- 1:19:41be a very very very deep and imperative conversation, but
- 1:19:45I want y'all to stay with me. I want you
- 1:19:48all to continue to like, share comments, subscribe, tell your
- 1:19:51friends what we do over here on Black Girl, interrupt
- 1:19:53that podcast. Don't forget there are house rules. You will
- 1:19:59be respectful on this platform. If you're not respectful, I
- 1:20:04will remove you. I will give you a fair warning.
- 1:20:14If I have to tell you again, I will remove you.
- 1:20:20And then if I have to tell you again, I
- 1:20:22will block you Tomorrow. Night's conversation is very imperative that
- 1:20:29we have because we're seeing this story happen over and
- 1:20:35over and over and over and over again and nothing
- 1:20:40is done. So it's now it's time for us to
- 1:20:44take a stand. Now, it's time for us to start
- 1:20:48standing up and stop falling for anything and everything that
- 1:20:51they tell us. We have to start demanding justice. And
- 1:20:58when I say demanding justice, you have to be willing
- 1:21:01to roll and roll and walk and through the trenches
- 1:21:06because this could be your child, this could be your
- 1:21:10loved one that I'm sitting up here having a conversation
- 1:21:12about But tomorrow night we're gonna start at seven pm
- 1:21:19Central time APM Eastern time. We will be really getting
- 1:21:23into the Newly and Wells case and everything that has
- 1:21:29come to light thus far. Happy Wednesday, everybody. I hope
- 1:21:42everyone has an amazing night. I hope you have an
- 1:21:47amazing evening. May your Thursday be blessed and full of joy.
- 1:21:56May whatever worried you today not you tomorrow. I want
- 1:22:04you all to take care of yourself, take care of
- 1:22:05your mental and just know that I love you and
- 1:22:10I'm rooting for you. So I'll see you tomorrow night,
- 1:22:15Thursday July twenty third, seven pm Central Time, streaming live
- 1:22:21to Facebook as.
- 1:22:22Speaker 6: Well as YouTube. But I love y'all, have
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: An amazing night and I'll see you tomorrow