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- 0:17from the unexplained to the mundane join us on
- 0:21our journey to the fringe hello and welcome to
- 0:33journey to the fringe where we shine lights on
- 0:35fringe topics and chelsea one thing we really
- 0:38need to address yeah we either need to acknowledge
- 0:41that ghost hunters are out there trying to kill
- 0:44ghosts or They need a better name. It's just,
- 0:49it's simple. Do you think that's why they never
- 0:51appear to ghost hunters? I'm just worried they've
- 0:55been killing them this whole time. Wow, my mind
- 0:58is blown. I think you're right. Yeah, ghost finders.
- 1:02Yeah, ghost finders, ghost spotters. I mean,
- 1:05we have bird watchers. You can have ghost watchers,
- 1:07but like ghost hunters, it's very clear what
- 1:10you're trying to do. And we need a better name
- 1:12if that's not what you're trying to do. Holy
- 1:14shit. Wow. We are your podcast host, Taylor and
- 1:17Josie, who cannot stew on this. You need to move
- 1:20on because we have a different episode to move
- 1:23on to. Here today, doing another Halloween episode,
- 1:27and that means a creature feature. And I think
- 1:30- It's Halloween month. Yeah. I got my spooky
- 1:33Halloween skull right here to remind me of what
- 1:38I'm doing right now. To keep you humble. Exactly.
- 1:41Keep me on task. Let me go to your head. Yeah.
- 1:44Right, I'm recording a Halloween episode. I only
- 1:47have one cryptid today. This story is the story
- 1:51of the Deer Man, specifically of central Alberta.
- 1:56We're going back to our roots here. I did not
- 1:59know about this guy. Yeah, well you're about
- 2:01to learn something more. I was just wearing a
- 2:05jacket growing up. Yeah, this might be him. Throughout
- 2:092019, an anonymous cryptozoologist from central
- 2:12Alberta documented a string of alleged Deer Man
- 2:16encounters on his blog AlbertaDeerman .com .blog,
- 2:21all of which are supposed to have taken place
- 2:23in rural communities across the Canadian prairies
- 2:26throughout 2018. Why you would do research like
- 2:30this and remain anonymous? No idea. But this
- 2:34guy is from Alberta, so you know, intentions
- 2:37could be blurry. All this guy has on his website
- 2:40is blog entries of encounters. Not sure where
- 2:44he got them because all the eyewitnesses are
- 2:47unnamed, claiming that all of them requested
- 2:49that their names be withheld for fear of ridicule.
- 2:53And he doesn't seem to do much more than a handful
- 2:55of those blog entries. I did a quick search and
- 2:58there have been Deer Man sightings also in Ohio,
- 3:02Oklahoma, and Delaware. So if we have another
- 3:06episode, let's do that. This one's gonna be a
- 3:10little bit of a funner episode. So without further
- 3:13ado, here's the first sighting of the Alberta
- 3:15Deer Man. Now, this report isn't based on the
- 3:18experience of a single person, but instead a
- 3:21husband and wife. a church -going couple who
- 3:24were retired and who both worked for the county
- 3:26of Lacombe and both couldn't believe what they
- 3:29had seen. As they always did on that day, they
- 3:32ate together, had coffee, and decided to drive
- 3:35through the country, a tradition they kept for
- 3:37the latter part of 20 years. On that fateful
- 3:40morning, the two drove through the fog and turned
- 3:43off the main highway 50 and decided it would
- 3:45be a nice change if they drove down Range Road
- 3:48225. A decision that would soon lead to a sighting
- 3:52that would never be forgotten. While they drove
- 3:55slowly through the fog, they both claimed they
- 3:58saw something moving in and out of the fog with
- 4:01such great speed that it couldn't have been a
- 4:03map. While they continued to drive, they could
- 4:06swear it looked like a deer, but it was too large
- 4:09to be a deer. Not wanting to scare the unknown
- 4:13skittish animal, the husband slowed to a stop
- 4:16and waited for a moment or two. in the hopes
- 4:19of having it run away, in the hopes of not hitting
- 4:21it. Slowly, the husband began driving again and
- 4:25was forced to slam on the brakes as standing
- 4:28just a few feet in front of them was the dear
- 4:31man. It stood perfectly still and slowly stood
- 4:34up on its hind legs and is said to have towered
- 4:37over their car. Without a second thought, the
- 4:40husband slammed on the horn and stepped on the
- 4:42gas. The fear took hold of him just before his
- 4:45car was to make contact with the deer man and
- 4:48it bolted into the fields covered by the thick
- 4:51fog. The couple had no idea what they saw and
- 4:54didn't stop until they reached their home and
- 4:57ran inside. Encounter number two. This encounter
- 5:01is shared by a retired librarian whose name has
- 5:04been held back for fear of ridicule. It was early
- 5:08in the morning and she was making coffee and
- 5:10breakfast. She glanced out her window as the
- 5:13coffee was brewing. Standing just a few yards
- 5:16away was the Deer Man. She recalled that it stood
- 5:18perfectly still like a statue and their eyes
- 5:22locked and neither one of them blinked. And before
- 5:25she knew it, the creature, why didn't she blink?
- 5:29She is also a deer man. She will not identify
- 5:33herself. I assume when they say something doesn't
- 5:36blink it's because it's a paranormal virgin.
- 5:39Like I don't understand when she's not blinking.
- 5:41Just take her like staring contest very seriously.
- 5:44Yeah, maybe she's entranced and before she yeah,
- 5:47maybe she's a trained staring artist. Staring
- 5:50contest enthusiast. Staring contest. Why is that
- 5:53suddenly a tongue twister? Before she knew it,
- 5:56the creature slowly made its way to the window.
- 5:59Its non -blinking eyes were almost hypnotic.
- 6:03maybe it was her eyes could it not have this
- 6:05been a regular deer could have been but no this
- 6:08is deer man if you didn't listen to the title
- 6:11of the episode as this bond was made i don't
- 6:17know why it's being described it was quickly
- 6:21cut off as the deer blinked just kidding And
- 6:32it turned around and began to make its way back
- 6:34to where it came from. But not before taking
- 6:37a few of the crab apples from her tree. Ever
- 6:41since then, she has continued to wake up at the
- 6:43same time every single day in the hopes of catching
- 6:47a glimpse of what she said was the most majestic
- 6:50animal she's ever seen. What the fuck is the
- 6:53story? I can't tell if you're active or not at
- 7:00this point. This is a serious story. Okay. She
- 7:06never felt fear like the others who've reported
- 7:09their encounters with the Deer Man. Oh, she wasn't
- 7:11scared of the Deer Man. It could have been a
- 7:14regular deer, don't you think? If it was stealing
- 7:16crab apples. And she wasn't scared. There's nothing
- 7:20in the story that would say a deer couldn't do
- 7:23that. Yeah, no. I'm not gonna lie. The writing
- 7:27on this blog was absolutely atrocious. It was
- 7:30just so bad. And the stories that I'm telling
- 7:34you, I had to make many changes to them to make
- 7:37them at least readable. However, I'm only one
- 7:41person and it was so, so bad. I can't even...
- 7:44I just need to ask you, the changes you made,
- 7:47were they to make it readable or more deer -like?
- 7:50The crabapple was mine. Just kidding. Do you
- 7:54like it? If you liked it, I put it in there.
- 7:59No, it was to make it more readable. There were
- 8:02words in there that made it completely illegible.
- 8:05Like she was a librarian. I'll get to my thoughts
- 8:09at the end of this, but I just usually think
- 8:11of librarians as people who have a good handle
- 8:14on the language. Yeah, I don't know necessarily
- 8:19that it was actual people's encounters more than
- 8:23someone just they were all written in the same
- 8:26style. To be honest with you, they are all horrible.
- 8:29They all had redundant sentences all over the
- 8:32place. It was pretty bad. And I'd like to point
- 8:35out at this point. We still have no description
- 8:38of the actual Dear Man. I'm not sure if that's...
- 8:41But I never know whether or not I should or if
- 8:45I just missed it because I wasn't paying attention
- 8:47for like a two minute window. Yeah, I'd prefer
- 8:50not to take any blame for that. I'd like to put
- 8:53it squarely on the blog poster's shoulders. Is
- 8:57it the blog person's shoulders or is it just
- 8:59the fact that we assume we know what a Dear Man
- 9:01looks like? Yeah, here's the thing. I thought
- 9:05this would be a fun one to share because I don't
- 9:08know that I would take this one too serious,
- 9:11but I felt like I should still cover it and it's
- 9:14this Deer Man of Central Alberta. So I couldn't
- 9:17not cover this and it deserves a Halloweeny episode,
- 9:21I thought. Yeah. So story number three is the
- 9:24farmer and the Deer Man. This report takes place
- 9:27smack dab right in Highway 53. west of Donalda,
- 9:33and it deals with a farmer and his livestock.
- 9:35If you are the faint of heart, I suggest you
- 9:38understand that in the world of the living, life
- 9:40is born and taken away. With that being said,
- 9:43a farmer was awoken one night to the sound of
- 9:45his pig screaming with fear. This woke him up
- 9:49and caused him to run outside in his underwear.
- 9:52Brandishing a rifle, he scanned the area and
- 9:55found that all his pigs were accounted for. And
- 9:58this checks out because it is Alberta. I can't
- 10:01tell you how many times I saw someone running
- 10:03with a remote in their underwear. And it's just
- 10:08habit, you gotta go check your pigs. Yeah, exactly.
- 10:12My pigs, they yell. Is there a chance that someone
- 10:16wears underwear? I don't see why not. I mean,
- 10:19we don't have a description of them, so your
- 10:22guess is as good as mine here. Not knowing just
- 10:24what spooked the pigs, he fired two rounds into
- 10:27the air in the hopes of scaring what he only
- 10:30assumed was a coyote or perhaps another vastly
- 10:33larger predator. But on that night, he was called
- 10:36yet again. Vastly larger predator in central
- 10:41Alberta. Yeah, dear man. Yeah. It's either coyote
- 10:46or dear man. Yeah. You never heard that? Either
- 10:52Coyote or Deer Man or One -Eyed Jack. Which was
- 10:55Deer Man more or less. Yeah, he's pretty much
- 10:58Deer Man now that I think of it. So that one
- 11:01night he was called yet again to check on his
- 11:03cows this time who were crying out in the night.
- 11:07The farmer didn't know what to make of it and
- 11:09quickly got his son and ran towards the barn.
- 11:12The cows were clearly spooked and were stomping
- 11:15their hooves and shrieking. Sorry, I don't know
- 11:20why they're shrieking. Like, someone was there
- 11:24or something. As people who farmed cows, that's
- 11:28not how cows act. Even if someone was there or
- 11:33something, they don't shriek or something. They
- 11:39have slightly different moods depending on the
- 11:41circumstances, but not ever considered a shriek.
- 11:44I would say that a pig would shriek before a
- 11:47cow would, but even then a pig would squeal.
- 11:49Yeah, and a cow would squeal even before it would
- 11:52shriek. It's true, it's true. He already crossed
- 11:55off a coyote as it would have ran away by now
- 11:58and everything looked clear. Coyotes don't wear
- 12:01underwear. Nope. He was about to leave the barn.
- 12:05That was until he heard the floor creak above
- 12:08him in the hayloft. That's when he realized that
- 12:11whatever it was was hiding up above. He said
- 12:14he initially thought it could be kids, perhaps
- 12:17wanting to tip a cow or try to rob him before
- 12:20he could say a single word. We had two options.
- 12:24This is rural Alberta. Yeah, lots of kids robbing
- 12:28people out there. Or tipping cows. And those
- 12:31are like two things they're doing. Before he
- 12:34could say a single word, a noise that filled
- 12:37him with fear echoed through the barn, driving
- 12:40his animals into a frenzy. Before he could do
- 12:43anything, the mysterious figure jumped down and
- 12:47bolted through the night. This wasn't the end
- 12:49as he fired another shot and this time almost
- 12:52hit the deer man. It's a deer man now. It was
- 13:02too late and the creature vanished into the night.
- 13:05The animals were all unharmed and were on edge
- 13:08for the rest of the night. After a few days,
- 13:12the dust settled down and life returned to normal
- 13:14for the most part. But now he sleeps with one
- 13:16eye open and his rifle loaded next to his bed.
- 13:19I wonder if he sleeps with actual clothes on
- 13:22so he doesn't have to run outside his underwear
- 13:24anymore. I got another one. Citing four. This
- 13:29is in William Canyon Trail in Denalda. Again,
- 13:32founded in 1911, Denalda is a village located
- 13:35in central Alberta. I don't know why I didn't
- 13:37start with this one and is known for having the
- 13:39largest lamp in the world. That's totally an
- 13:42Alberta thing. Yep. They got a lot of large things.
- 13:48While an elderly woman whose name she didn't
- 13:51want to reveal out of fear of public scrutiny.
- 13:54recalled her sighting of the elusive deer man
- 13:57as she was committed to doing her daily hike
- 13:59routine in order to stay fit and active. She
- 14:02was alone and just thought that day would be
- 14:04like any other. She recalled that she heard nothing
- 14:07but silence, a common trait when about to witness
- 14:10the deer man. She was taken aback by this as
- 14:13she usually heard birds or other hikers in the
- 14:17area, but not today. Yeah. Yeah, she stopped
- 14:20and was feeling a sense of dread. Soon she heard
- 14:23the sound of a twig snapping. As she turned around,
- 14:26she came face to face with the dear man who stood
- 14:30before her like that of a statue. Is this her?
- 14:34citing, or is this her romantic novel rendition
- 14:38of it? Yeah, I'm gonna go back again. It's probably
- 14:42the blog writers romantic Dear Man novel. Because
- 14:46I am now picturing this as like a seven part
- 14:48series Dear Man, the untameable, the romantic
- 14:52novels. Yeah Amazon if you will notice the writing
- 14:57style is much the same for every single sighting
- 15:00Yeah, and it there's not much eyewitness about
- 15:04it. I would say don't all that is in the middle
- 15:07of nowhere, Alberta It is I didn't look at that
- 15:10actually look home. Yeah, just above Stettler.
- 15:13Yeah, you didn't mention the big lamp though
- 15:15No, I did not mention the big lamp for I've not
- 15:17seen the big lamp not middle of nowhere. There's
- 15:19a big lamp Yeah, biggest city is either Red deer,
- 15:22which is pretty big or cameras. Yes. Oh, it's
- 15:25over there. Equal parts between. OK, so let's
- 15:29remember that she just turned around. She heard
- 15:31a twig snap. Could have been her stepping on
- 15:33a twig. That was not clarified for us at this
- 15:36point. Turns around. Deer man's there. The feeling
- 15:39of terror washed over her and she didn't move
- 15:42an inch. The deer man took a step towards her
- 15:45and towards a clear few feet taller than her.
- 15:49That sentence didn't even make sense. It attempted
- 15:52to communicate, she recalled, as if it was trying
- 15:55to talk, but all it could mutter was that of
- 15:59what a deer makes while warning others. What?
- 16:05Have you ever heard a deer warn you of something?
- 16:08What does it say? He's saying it like we should
- 16:11know. I don't know. I really don't know. Yeah,
- 16:17I don't know. the day was cool and damp though
- 16:21this was completely naked like a wild man okay
- 16:25yeah this is the romantic novel version she just
- 16:28alludes to that there's dick flopping out like
- 16:31everywhere it didn't show any effects of said
- 16:36weather not a shiver or a tremble It reached
- 16:43out with his hand in an attempt to touch it.
- 16:51Before it could, in the distance, a conversation
- 16:54could be heard between two other hikers and a
- 16:57dog that was barking like it was rabbit. The
- 17:00next thing she knew, the dear man bolted from
- 17:03the scene. Just what it was about to do is up
- 17:05for debate. But one thing for sure is, if this
- 17:09creature was attempting to communicate with a
- 17:12person, where was it about to prey on its next
- 17:14victim? No one can say for sure, but its fear
- 17:17of being spotted by people wasn't an issue before,
- 17:21until the sound of a dog. Is this creature afraid
- 17:24of our four -legged companions? Or did it fear
- 17:27retaliation if it decided to be hostile in search
- 17:30of food? After the event took place, she decided
- 17:34to run towards the others and warn them of what
- 17:36she had witnessed. Not knowing exactly what she
- 17:39was talking about, they believed she saw something
- 17:41truly terrifying. As they left her, they had
- 17:45to restrain their dog as it began going crazy,
- 17:48attempting to break itself free from its owners
- 17:50and run to the unknown. Okay, I have one last
- 17:53one. This sighting comes in from a 17 year old
- 17:57kid traveling to see his friends on a Friday
- 17:59night on a May long weekend. usually these details.
- 18:04He was cruising around and exploring the countryside,
- 18:06but on this day he got lost driving down Rage
- 18:09Road 174. It's such vague details with all of
- 18:13a sudden a very specific detail. Yeah. And decided
- 18:16to pull off the road and turned off to the Crop
- 18:19Production Services Road. As he was driving way
- 18:22below the speed limit in an attempt to find his
- 18:25way back, he coasted until he came to a complete
- 18:28stop at the site that befell him. was one of
- 18:31monstrous. The very thought of a half man half
- 18:35deer on all fours standing perfectly still. Well
- 18:38there's one thing we found out about Deer Man
- 18:40so far and that is that he stands perfectly still.
- 18:44That's about the only thing that we can put together
- 18:47from all of these. His dick is swaying. We can't
- 18:51get that from one story. Especially from the
- 18:55last one. He was definitely naked. The strange
- 19:03creature was attempting to cross the rope but
- 19:06stood perfectly still like a statue. What? It
- 19:09was attempting to cross the rope but it stood
- 19:12perfectly still. Perfectly deer like. Oh my god.
- 19:16That is perfectly deer like actually. They freeze.
- 19:19Oh, someone is here. I must freeze. yeah right
- 19:23in front of the fast moving object not knowing
- 19:27what to do he just sat there his mouth wide open
- 19:30i don't know if this is the deer or the boy the
- 19:36stench of musk filled the air and soon seconds
- 19:40turned into minutes he was afraid to move even
- 19:43an inch as he thought at any moment that beast
- 19:45could attack him and do god knows what thoughts
- 19:48were racing through his head and his parents
- 19:50not knowing where he was of him not graduating
- 19:54not going to prom and not being able to follow
- 19:57his dreams the deer man slowly stood up revealing
- 20:00its true height and slowly it began to walk towards
- 20:04the car moving just like that of a deer very
- 20:16quickly in skittish movements but very slowly.
- 20:20While the temperature dropped, steam can be seen
- 20:23shooting out of its nose. It silently towards
- 20:27him and began letting out snorts that cut through
- 20:30the air and filled him with fear. Just as the
- 20:33dear man stood a few feet from the driver's side
- 20:35window, the young man began to cry and without
- 20:39a spare second, he threw the vehicle into drive
- 20:42and sped off. The last of the dear man occupying
- 20:45the same distance as the nameless individual
- 20:48was that he slowly began to run towards the vehicle
- 20:51until it gave up. Through his rear -view mirror,
- 20:54he saw it get back on all fours and return into
- 20:56the darkness. I didn't give you all the stories.
- 21:03I'm going to be honest with you. I thought the
- 21:05Dear Man was a fun thing and it was the Dear
- 21:08Man of Central Alberta. And I just, once I started
- 21:12reading this and editing this, I was like, there's
- 21:14no way I can't do this in all of its glory. It
- 21:18hasn't happened. It does need to be a romantic
- 21:20novel series. It does. So to me, just my feel
- 21:25of it, and I hate to do this on a Halloween episode,
- 21:28but I also love to do this on a Halloween episode.
- 21:30I feel like Taylor will regain what I lost on
- 21:34this, but I honestly feel like it's a 17, 18
- 21:38year old who was like, I'm gonna start a blog.
- 21:41It's like someone who doesn't really have a working
- 21:44idea of cryptids. I could slap something together
- 21:47much better. And there is an actual dear man
- 21:50out there, like I listed. There's a bunch in
- 21:53Ohio, Delaware, Oklahoma. it's actually out there.
- 21:58This guy could have given it much more details
- 22:01to make it a little bit more substantial, but
- 22:04he clearly just made it all up. I was really
- 22:06hoping for more. Or he just accepted stories
- 22:11too. No, because these are all written in the
- 22:15same exact narrative. They are all written in
- 22:18the same person. That doesn't mean... that he
- 22:20didn't have other people give him stories and
- 22:23he wrote them. That's true. He could have got
- 22:26some ideas, but you can tell he made up the details.
- 22:30He wrote the stories. There's no eyewitness.
- 22:32There's no quotes. There's no consensus. There's
- 22:36not even a description of the creature. We all
- 22:38have to just assume that we're all seeing the
- 22:41same thing and that is a deer head on a human
- 22:45body. Is that what you get from it? That's what
- 22:48I'm seeing in my mind. It's a human body with
- 22:53a deer head. Yeah, no, that's got to be what
- 22:56it is. Deer man. Maybe it's a human with deer
- 22:59horns. Fully deer to the bottom of the neck and
- 23:03then human all the way down from there. Yeah.
- 23:07All of its genitalia glory. Yeah, yeah, no, I
- 23:10definitely picture it with human genitals. But
- 23:13I like it's not even like this guy was taking
- 23:16encounters and just did a shitty job Relaying
- 23:19them like these are not encounters. They are
- 23:22not at all He didn't give descriptions or anything
- 23:25and the funny thing that I found about this is
- 23:27blogs actually linked back to this citing it
- 23:30as a source When they say dear man is a cryptid
- 23:34because he came up in my research and I was like,
- 23:36oh he sounds good and people give vague descriptions
- 23:40and then say that it links back to this guy here's
- 23:43the blog and then these are stories directly
- 23:45from the blog there's literally last it was updated
- 23:49with years ago this guy says stay tuned i'm gonna
- 23:52give you more stories he never comes back with
- 23:55and yeah so i was hoping for more i got too much
- 24:00into the research before these are highly edited
- 24:03by me and you listen to them they're not great
- 24:07No, Chelsea, it's trying to give us the best
- 24:09representation of the stories. I really did.
- 24:13And I read them so nicely for you. And so when
- 24:16it's not a Halloween episode, because it's a
- 24:19scary time of year, you got to like I don't want
- 24:22to put too much stress on you being too scared.
- 24:25So I needed to lighten it up a little. We'll
- 24:27have another scary episode of the other Dear
- 24:30Man sightings and we'll we'll do an actual Dear
- 24:33Man episode for you. But. Without further ado,
- 24:37I think Taylor needs to redeem this episode now.
- 24:40You're welcome. I think I can, Chelsea, because
- 24:43the next story I knew it comes most strictly
- 24:47from police reports. OK, that's much better.
- 24:51Almost the opposite of what I just did. Yeah,
- 24:55I think this is going to be good because Chelsea,
- 24:57we're going to be taking a look at the big muddy
- 24:59monster, which I almost see. I think he almost
- 25:03sounds like a blues guitarist. but he is not
- 25:06he is a cryptid in murphysboro illinois wow illinois
- 25:11again eh yeah i told you i had a theme what's
- 25:15going on in illinois a quiet town nestled along
- 25:18the big muddy river what unfolded over the course
- 25:21of two weeks will become one of the most thoroughly
- 25:25documented cryptic cases of American history.
- 25:28What? Complete with official police reports,
- 25:31terrified witnesses, and a mystery that still
- 25:34lingers to this day. So, Chelsea? Yeah? We're
- 25:37going back to June 25th, 1973. OK, quick question.
- 25:41Is this him bowling? Oh, yeah. That's that big
- 25:43muddy boy. OK, he's bowling, I think. Yeah. I
- 25:46mean, he's got the thick thighs that I'm looking
- 25:48for. Yeah. Just brace yourself. This might be
- 25:50a Bigfoot episode. Okay, but Dear Man was in
- 25:55it, so it's not fully... We can't commit it to
- 25:57a full episode. Big Muddy Monster might be a
- 26:02Bigfoot. I'm just warning everybody at the start.
- 26:04He does look like a Bigfoot, yep. But I welcome
- 26:08him with open arms. I do. I'll accept him as
- 26:11he is. We're gonna start on June 25th, 1973.
- 26:14A humid Monday night in Murfreesboro, Illinois.
- 26:17Around 11 pm, Randy Needham and Judy Johnson,
- 26:21two young locals, were parked near the Riverside
- 26:24Park boat dock, a secluded area along the Big
- 26:27Muddy River popular with couples looking for
- 26:30privacy. I'm sure they were just taking in the
- 26:32views, hoping to see some Deer Man dong or something
- 26:35like that. Suddenly, the quiet evening was shattered
- 26:44by a loud rustling in the nearby woods. At first,
- 26:48they thought it might be a raccoon or a deer,
- 26:50but then something enormous emerged from the
- 26:52trees. According to their statements in the police
- 26:54report, the creature was at least seven feet
- 26:58tall, possibly taller. was covered in long, shavy,
- 27:01matted hair or off -white hair, soaked and streaked
- 27:05with mud. Its eyes glowed red in the darkness
- 27:08and it emitted a stench so overpowering that
- 27:11both witnesses described it as sickening, a mix
- 27:13of rotting garbage and sulfur. The creature didn't
- 27:17make any vocal sounds, but it moved with purpose.
- 27:20Stepping toward the car, Needham and Johnson
- 27:22panicked. They sped away and drove straight to
- 27:25the Murfreesboro Police Department, visibly shaken
- 27:27and nearly incoherent with fear. Officer Nash
- 27:31and Officer Manwaring were dispatched to the
- 27:33scene. When they arrived, they found large, fresh
- 27:36footprints in the mud, approximately 10 to 12
- 27:38inches long and deeply pressing to the ground,
- 27:41suggesting a creature of considerable height.
- 27:44The officers also noted a lingering odor in the
- 27:47air describing it in the reports as strong and
- 27:50offensive. They reached the area with flashlights
- 27:52but found no sign of the creature however the
- 27:55physical evidence footprints broken branches
- 27:57and the pungent smell was enough to convince
- 27:59them that something unusual had occurred. Chief
- 28:02Toby Berger was notified and took the report
- 28:06seriously. He later stated that the witnesses
- 28:08appeared genuinely terrified and that their story
- 28:11remained consistent under questioning. The police
- 28:14report from that night is one of the most detailed
- 28:17in the entire Big Muddy Monster case and it set
- 28:20the tone for the investigation that followed.
- 28:23The siting wasn't just the beginning, it was
- 28:26the catalyst. It turned a quiet river town in
- 28:28the epicenter of one of the most documented cryptic
- 28:30investigations in US history. And it's still
- 28:33one of the most compelling accounts not just
- 28:35because of what was seen but because of how seriously
- 28:37it was taken by law enforcement. The next day,
- 28:41Chief Toby Berger launched a full -scale investigation.
- 28:45Officers returned to the scene with tracking
- 28:47dogs. According to the report, dogs picked up
- 28:50a scent but refused to follow it. Something about
- 28:52the trail terrified them. The detail was noted
- 28:55explicitly in the police documentation, adding
- 28:58credibility to the fear surrounding the creature.
- 29:02Now, around 10 .30pm that evening, June 26th,
- 29:06A call came in from Cheryl Ray, a resident near
- 29:08the park. She and her daughter had seen a large
- 29:12hairy creature moving through their backyard.
- 29:15Officer Nash and Manwaring were dispatched immediately.
- 29:18According to the police report filed that night,
- 29:21the woman described the creature as very tall,
- 29:23covered in white hair, and walking upright. She
- 29:26said it passed through her yard, heading towards
- 29:28the woods, and her daughter, who was visibly
- 29:30frightened, corroborated the sighting. Both described
- 29:33a terrible smell that lingered in the air after
- 29:36the creature disappeared. When officers arrived,
- 29:39they noted several physical signs, broken branches,
- 29:42disturbed underbrush, and a trail of large footprints
- 29:44leading away from the property. Prints were similar
- 29:47to those found the night before. Deep impressions
- 29:50left roughly 10 to 12 inches long, spaced in
- 29:54a way that suggests a bipedal gait. The police
- 29:56report also mentions that the officers themselves
- 29:59detected the odor described by the witnesses.
- 30:01It was strong, accurate, and unlike anything
- 30:04they had encountered before. One officer compared
- 30:07it to a mix of sewage and wet dog, while another
- 30:10said it was enough to make you gag. Tracking
- 30:12dogs were brought in again and once more they
- 30:15picked up the scent, but just like the previous
- 30:16night they refused to follow it. The report notes
- 30:19that dogs whined and backed away, clearly disturbed
- 30:22by whatever they sensed in the woods. Chief Berger
- 30:25later commented that his second sighting, coming
- 30:28from a residential area involving a child, added
- 30:31a new layer of concern. The consistency in the
- 30:34creature's description, its size, hair color,
- 30:36smell, and speed matched the previous report
- 30:39almost exactly and the physical evidence gave
- 30:41weight to the claim. In the early hours of June
- 30:4427th at 2am, Officer Nash was patrolling near
- 30:48the Big Muddy River, close to the area of previous
- 30:51sightings. The night was quiet, humid, and heavy
- 30:54with tension. Murfreesboro had already seen two
- 30:57unsettling reports in his many days and officers
- 31:00were on edge. While scanning the brush with his
- 31:03spotlight, Nash noticed movement. Something large
- 31:06and fast starting through the undergrowth. He
- 31:08radioed for backup immediately with the minutes
- 31:10chief Toby Berger. Officer Manwaring and several
- 31:14other officers arrived on the scene. According
- 31:16to the police report filed that morning, the
- 31:18team began a coordinated search of the wooded
- 31:20area near the river. They moved slowly, flashlights
- 31:23cutting through the dense foliage, weapons drawn
- 31:26not out of aggression but caution. The previous
- 31:29reports had described a creature that was massive,
- 31:32unpredictable and foul -smelling. Then they found
- 31:34a trail of fresh footprints. These prints were
- 31:37similar to those documented on June 25th and
- 31:3926th, approximately 10 -12 inches long. Deeply
- 31:43embedded in the soft ground, spaced in a way
- 31:45that suggested a bipedal gait. The officers also
- 31:49noted broken branches and disturbed vegetation,
- 31:51consistent with something large moving through
- 31:54the area. But the most striking detail in the
- 31:57report was the smell. Once again, the officers
- 31:59described a strong offensive odor, lingering
- 32:02in the air like a warning. One officer compared
- 32:06it to rotting meat mixed with stagnant water.
- 32:09Another said it was unlike anything I've ever
- 32:11smelled in my career. Despite the physical evidence,
- 32:14the creature itself remained elusive. The team
- 32:17continued searching for over an hour, but the
- 32:19trail eventually went cold. The report notes
- 32:22that the terrain became too difficult to navigate
- 32:25and the visibility was limited. Still, the officers
- 32:28were convinced that something had passed through,
- 32:30something big, fast, and very real. Later that
- 32:33day, a local resident named Ray Miller contacted
- 32:36the police to report a sighting near his home.
- 32:39He described the creature as gorilla -like but
- 32:41taller, with long white hair and glowing eyes.
- 32:44Though his account wasn't filed as a formal report,
- 32:47it was added to the investigation notes and matched
- 32:49the previous descriptions almost perfectly. The
- 32:52third encounter marked a turning point in the
- 32:54investigation. It wasn't just isolated witnesses
- 32:57anymore, it was trained officers working through
- 33:01together, documenting physical evidence in real
- 33:03time. The consistency across all three reports,
- 33:06size, hair, color, odor, and behavior, suggests
- 33:08a pattern, and the fear was no longer just among
- 33:11civilians. It had reached the rank of law enforcement.
- 33:15By now, the story had reached local newspapers,
- 33:17and they ran headlines like, monster sighted
- 33:20in Murfreesboro. Reporters from Chicago and St.
- 33:23Louis arrived. Riverside Park became a circus
- 33:26of monster hunters, skeptics, and curious families.
- 33:29And on the evening of July 7th, a group of local
- 33:33teenagers reported a new sighting near the Big
- 33:36Muddy River. According to the police reports
- 33:38filed that night, the teens had been walking
- 33:41along the riverbank when they saw something massive
- 33:44moving through the trees. They described it as
- 33:47huge, white, and fast. A blur of fur and motion
- 33:50that vanished into the woods almost as quickly
- 33:52as it appeared. The teens were visibly shaken
- 33:55when they contacted authorities. Officers responded
- 33:58promptly arriving at the scene to investigate.
- 34:01The police report states that the area was thick
- 34:04with brush and difficult to navigate but police
- 34:07officers did find physical signs consistent with
- 34:10previous encounters. Large footprints embedded
- 34:13in the soft ground, broken branches and once
- 34:15again the unmistakable stench. The odor was reported
- 34:19in the report as strong and offensive. similar
- 34:22to the description from June, a mix of rotting
- 34:25vegetation, sewage, and wet animal fur. Officers
- 34:28noted that the smell lingered in the air long
- 34:30after the creature had disappeared, suggesting
- 34:32it had passed through recently. What made the
- 34:35sighting particularly compelling was the consistency.
- 34:39The creature's size, speed, hair, color, and
- 34:42smell matched every previous report. And while
- 34:45the teens didn't get a close look at its face,
- 34:48They were adamant about its upright posture and
- 34:51the unnatural way it moved, fast, fluid, and
- 34:54silent. The police report also mentions that
- 34:57the officers attempted to follow the trail but
- 34:59lost it as the terrain became more difficult.
- 35:02No further physical evidence was recovered and
- 35:04the creature was not seen again. It marks the
- 35:10end of the documented encounters during the 1973
- 35:12investigation. After that night, no new reports
- 35:16were filed and the Big Muddy Monster seemed to
- 35:18vanish as mysteriously as it had appeared. Now
- 35:21there are some theories. Some believe it was
- 35:23an escaped exotic animal, perhaps a bear or ape.
- 35:26Others thought it was a prank or mass hysteria.
- 35:29Cryptozoologists propose it could be a regional
- 35:31Bigfoot variant, and skeptics point to the lack
- 35:34of hard evidence. But believers held firm, citing
- 35:36the consistency of sightings and the genuine
- 35:39fear expressed by the witnesses. Though the sightings
- 35:42taper off, the legend of Big Muddy Monster never
- 35:46die. Murfreesboro embraced its mysterious visitor.
- 35:50and the town now hosts an annual Big Muddy Monster
- 35:53Festival, celebrating the lore with costumes,
- 35:56storytelling, and community events. What makes
- 35:59the Big Muddy Monster so compelling isn't just
- 36:02the creature, it's the atmosphere, the humid
- 36:04summer nights, the river mists, the small town
- 36:07backdrop, and it's the story that blends fear,
- 36:10mystery, and community. It's about a town responding
- 36:12to the unknown, not with panic, but with curiosity
- 36:15and folklore. And Chelsea, I find this guy super
- 36:18fascinating. And yes, you can actually go to
- 36:20the Murphysboro Monster or the Big Muddy Monster
- 36:23Festival every year in Murphysboro, Illinois.
- 36:26Like they have a statue of him too. Thank you
- 36:29first off for grounding my episode and how I
- 36:32started that. That's for sure. This is exactly
- 36:38what this episode needed coming off of what I
- 36:40did. How cool is that sighting? I've never even
- 36:45heard of them, and that has to be one of the
- 36:46coolest ones. First of all, he's an albino Bigfoot.
- 36:50I know. Except in the first sighting, it could
- 36:53be black or white. They didn't know for sure.
- 36:55Well, he was so covered in fucking mud. He was
- 36:58filthy. He's big in money, yeah. I'm going to
- 37:00say he was probably white in that one, too. And
- 37:04that would explain the glowing red eyes. He was
- 37:07albino. Now. What about let's float a theory
- 37:11here that okay, here's what I'm picking up on
- 37:14like I think he seems like he's probably a Bigfoot
- 37:18and The thing about Bigfoot is we did such a
- 37:23good episode on Bigfoot like back when we first
- 37:25started It's in the history books for journey
- 37:28to the fringe and that one was a good one It's
- 37:32paranormal Bigfoot and paranormal Bigfoot is
- 37:35not a guy that is Should we call him different
- 37:38than a cryptid? Because I feel like a cryptid
- 37:41is something based in this reality. To the parameters
- 37:45of our reality, yeah. Yeah, and I feel like paranormal
- 37:49Bigfoot, which I think is what Bigfoot is at
- 37:52his core. He's a paranormal dude. He is in and
- 37:56out of this reality, which would explain a lot
- 38:00in relation to this Bigfoot sighting, which you're
- 38:03not going to ever see someone who's a Bigfoot.
- 38:06person ever fess up to that he's anything but
- 38:09for us on a halloween episode because there's
- 38:12a lot we can talk about within that particularly
- 38:14the smells that always seem to come up with these
- 38:17creatures yeah but who doesn't have a smell every
- 38:19once in a while and my other theory is sulfur
- 38:24particularly and maybe just maybe this one i'm
- 38:31gonna rank Probably like third or fourth on my
- 38:34list of other possible things. Paranormal Bigfoot,
- 38:37number one. I'm pretty sure that's why he would
- 38:39never be seen again. He came into this reality.
- 38:43He checked it out and he was like, nope. And
- 38:46that was that. The fourth maybe, maybe two, maybe
- 38:50two or three, he's in a freezer. Oh, he could
- 38:52be in a freezer. That's fair. Yeah. And hence
- 38:56why we haven't seen him a whole lot ever again.
- 39:00Or by that chili. Yep. Walmart Chili. Yeah. So
- 39:05those are my theories about where the albino
- 39:08Bigfoot went. He's rare. He's more rare than
- 39:13a regular paranormal Bigfoot. And that was a
- 39:17beautiful episode. Yes. And good on the law enforcement.
- 39:21Good on them. If I was a police officer, I picture
- 39:24myself in all these different careers in this
- 39:27podcast. If I was a police officer, I feel like
- 39:30I would do that too. Yeah, yeah. Say hello. Yes,
- 39:35it's three in the morning. A Bigfoot sighting.
- 39:38I will stop at nothing. No other town will get
- 39:43in my way to finding this. But this with the
- 39:49sign over to closed on the PlayStation run out.
- 39:53And I would take the most detailed, beautiful
- 39:57notes you will have ever seen. And I would be
- 40:01paying attention to every detail. And they would
- 40:04say unknown creature. And I would be like, say
- 40:07no more. That's probably Bigfoot. We're busy.
- 40:10I'm all in on this. Yeah. I'm really happy about
- 40:14that episode. I'm glad because I have been Taylor
- 40:17here with Chelsea. We are journey to the fringe.
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