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#560 When Trust Dies What Money Survives · The Arterburn Radio Transmission Podcast

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_04: We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_04: Good evening, folks.
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_04: You're listening to the hour of the time.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm William Cooper.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_03: The chair is against the wall.
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  SPEAKER_03: John has a long mustache.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_03: John has a long mustache.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's 12 o'clock, Americans, another day closer to victory.
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  SPEAKER_03: And for all of you out there on or behind the line, this is your song.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_04: Veteran of three foreign wars.
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  SPEAKER_04: Entrepreneur and warrior poet.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_04: Tony Araburn takes on the issues facing our country, civilization, and planet.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_04: This is the Araburn radio transmission.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Many years ago, twenty three years ago, when I was in northern Iraq, and um that was basically my education.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people want to know like, where'd you go to school?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like uh near the Tigris River in the ancient city of Nineveh.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: But I remember reading a biography, one of many that I read on Sam Houston, who was the first president of Texas, the father of Texas, really others outside of Stephen F.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: Austin.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: But I look I loved his history, and one of the stories always made me laugh was um he got baptized late in life.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_02: I think he was in his like late 50s.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Finally, you know, his his wife Margaret got him to get baptized at the local church, but they would um go to this pond, you know, and it was it wasn't like you know, like you see in modern times where they have like the pool of water inside the church.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_02: They go outside, you know, and go to this pond and he gets he gets baptized.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: And uh the preacher asked him, uh, do you do you feel any different?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, uh, actually I do.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: Is this true that it I'm cleansed of of all my sins?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: And the preacher said, Yes, it is.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: And he goes, Well, God have mercy on the fish below, then because he was he was pretty stained, as we all are.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, if you have any self-a-aware capabilities, then you'll you'll be in that column, much like I am.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I'm just the more and more I look at the uh unfolding of events as I was talking to David Knight about today.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're we're at the the cusp of a of a fourth turning, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, about every 80 to 100 years about the life of a human being, then all institutions radically change.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's an upheaval, you get currency wars, uh, kinetic actual wars, trade wars, all of those things mixed into one.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: And and there is a changing of not only culture and society, but the remaking of all institutions.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so you lose that equilibrium.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: And it's if you're a student of history like myself, and you realize that man is flawed, and that's fine, and we live under those conditions, and there always has to be some kind of balance, you know.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, as I always joke about um our current system, like Ned Flanders can't can't save America.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I grew up watching The Simpsons where the Ned Flanders characters like Oakley Dokley and all that stuff.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_02: You have to have a little bit of uh you'll be touched by a little bit of darkness, and at least understand that you have it.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_02: All human beings do.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: But um, if you can't if you can't find the flaw, then it's probably really bad.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so somebody that um is a student of history like myself, you stories about people like Sam Houston, and and then we look at our current crop of of leaders, which we'll get into uh a little bit of today, and it can be pretty terrifying, and you have to find some equilibrium and some sort of something to hang your hat on.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll we'll search for that today uh here on the Arterburn Radio Transmission, which is the official broadcast of the apocalypse.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's the 8th of uh October, 2026.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: I do not have uh Beans the Brave in studio today.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_02: She was whisked away um by Jess earlier in the day.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I was on the David Knight show, and and there goes Beans.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't have her in studio today, but somewhere she's guarding against uh bad vibes, intruders, and uh anything that would disrupt uh her day and not just the transmission.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: But I got pumpkin the cat here in studio.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: So uh we're we're lucky to have her.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's uh well, first of all, and I business is not as usual.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: I've I'm welcoming uh uh pretty much uh a new terrestrial station.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's the first time I've been on a terrestrial station in a few in a couple of years.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I I'm on WWCR Worldwide Christian Radio, which is uh a shortwave around the globe, and we're so proud of that.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but I added a WCCF uh 1580 AM out of Port Charlotte, Florida.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: That'll be picking up the transmission and playing it uh on Saturdays.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: So we're really happy and and proud to be over there.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: And uh hopefully the the folks there in southern Florida will like the show.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's a different, it's a different show, folks.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: So just stick with me for a while.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_02: There's a bit of chaos in my brain, but we'll cover some of the stories that I think are the most important out of the signpost on the road ahead.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we cover not only trends, we do headlines of hidden history.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a hodgepodge of many, many things.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: So stick with me, and I'd I'd really appreciate that.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so as I was uh speaking with David Knight this morning, we'll do a little bit of financial stuff, just a tiny bit, and then uh I want to transition into the um the parapolitical, if you will.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to just cover politics because we all know that that's uh that's basically mind control at this point.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we don't want to uh hang our we don't want to have too much uh validity, uh too much energy paid attention to the uh the back and forth of the left-right paradigm, but it is good to have some intel, uh, as Sun Tzu said.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: No, know your enemy.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll we'll definitely look at some of the um political intel, but and also have to shorten the show a little bit.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: At the end of the show, we're gonna play uh for the live feed and everything going out to WWCR.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to play uh the interview I did with with David Knight, or at least a portion of it uh today on the feed until I get the radio uh system fixed.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll have you know, and in the future, it will have a break in the middle.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: We'll have a news reel and all that stuff, just like a regular radio show.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but this week I I'm recording differently because we're on terrestrial again.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: So bear with me as we uh get all the the technical stuff in place.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: But by the way, it'll be cooler because I'll have um I'll have my bumpers back.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I was uh look listening to the archives and I have so many cool bumpers from the um the KLU P days, uh 9 30 a.m.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_02: out of San Antonio, or when I was on 1160 um weeknights, we had the coolest bumpers.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I I pulled some of the bumpers out.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: I may have to, because of copyright, I may have to change them up a little bit, but they are fun.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: So uh stick with as we roll out, stick with me.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: I got some I got some cool stuff.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_02: So as I mentioned, if you want to know what the future is, right?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: Not like Orwell.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_02: If you want a glimpse of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face forever.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Aside from that, if you want to know uh some financial future, what have I been telling you?
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: What do I it must sound maddening when I repeat myself, but I've been doing this a while now on this particular subject.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I want to read you some of the metrics from it.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_02: This is from KitCo.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: And uh if you remember, I especially on my appearances on David Knight and others, I like, hey, pay attention to Hong Kong.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, pay attention to Hong Kong for the new financial system.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: And this is the headline: Hong Kong becomes Russia's gold gateway to China as bullion flows shatter records.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: Western sanctions have upended traditional gold flows with Russian bullion that would normally go to London now pouring into Hong Kong at a record pace on its way to mainland China and other Asian markets.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: According to an analysis of Hong Kong Census and Statistics Department data by Bullion Vault, Hong Kong imported one 112.7 tons of Russian origin gold in the in the first seven months of 2026 that far surpassed the record 92.1 tons of Russian gold imported during all of 2025.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: Now listen to this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Hong Kong imported only 3.3 tons.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: Do you see where I'm going with this?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_02: So the reason I thought this was going to be one of the most important stories is because um the London gold market and the the paper markets and everything that had been the standard for the financial system in precious metals, I saw having a real problem post-2022.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: When in February of 22, when Russia invaded Ukraine, by the way, um NATO wanted that.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um the West wanted that.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_02: That was clearly like an invitation.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they had a lot of choice, but that's what the choice that was given to them is basically we're gonna build everything, all this infrastructure, and put nukes on the border and bring Ukraine into NATO and all this stuff.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I don't have to stick up for Russia here, but you understand like this was a thing that was accelerated the decline of the dollar system.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: So when Russia invaded Ukraine, we put even more massive sanctions, and they eventually just said, we don't even we don't accept dollars, which is insane because Russia's like a giant gas station.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so like the the petro system, right, is what keeps Russia.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's how Ronald Reagan was able to, in so many words, bankrupt the Soviet Union during the 1980s, uh, not only with the strategic defense initiative and Star Wars and all that stuff, SDI, but with uh the unlimited uh rolling out of Saudi oil and OPEC oil and other things that were flowing out.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_02: So the Soviet Union, that's how they paid their bills.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, there was massively undersold.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_02: So um Russia moving away from the dollar and their foreign minister saying uh they're basically candy wrappers, that's a that's an insult in Russia.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's like toilet paper.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: We don't want dollars.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they started it going direct with countries like India, countries like China, um, trading oil for gold, you know, and things like that.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: So, and then the ruble bounced back because they were like, we're gonna tie the ruble to so many you know grams of gold or however the metric was.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: But at first it was catastrophic, and then it bounced back, and then we went from 56% of usage of the dollar.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I this was something I was talking about in 2022.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this is gonna be a massive loss of dollar usage in the world.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: Now, you don't have to be a genius to figure that out, okay?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have to be that smart.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_02: You just watch the metrics.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: So it went from 56% usage of dollars around the world to uh low 40s, and I don't know what it is now.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm assuming it's around the 40% mark for dollars used, even though we have a crazy energy market right now.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: There's this technically a strong dollar and all this stuff with the interest rates.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: But one thing I saw was these other traditional trading hubs and other like this is gonna go away.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: And that's when you saw the story drop about what Hong Kong was doing.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: And um, there's another story on Kitco that talks about the capacity for Hong Kong at this point to have 2,000 ton storage capacity.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_02: And what that means is they're gonna all the hubs around the airport, this is gonna be where they offload um even Scott Bessant, the Treasury Secretary, is talking about sanctionable items and that we can sanction crypto and sanction gold.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, good luck with all of that.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, because this is Hong Kong, and you're going to have Russian gold, you're gonna have Chinese gold, you're gonna have South African gold, you're gonna have all these different countries that basically make up bricks, you're gonna have Middle Eastern gold, all this stuff.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna pass through here, and they're not only gonna have that.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna be digitized, tied to the blockchain.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: They're gonna make it there, isn't a new currency that they're going to create that rivals the dollar.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna be the Chinese Yuan, it's not gonna be the petro yuan, it's not gonna be any of that stuff.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna be a bricks currency, it's gonna be gold.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_02: It already is.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what I've been saying.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, we we have a unique historical opportunity to pay attention to something before it actually comes to fruition.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_02: So, this is if you tune into the show, if you get nothing else out of it, that's probably one of the biggest stories that gets brushed aside because nobody knows what they're looking at.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: The London markets and all the rest of that used to control the way that metals and value flowed is no longer as relevant as what the future is, which is gonna be places like the Shanghai Gold Exchange and especially Hong Kong, as I bring up a billion times.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: Because that's where they're gonna trade in and out.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_02: That's where it's gonna be stored, that's where they're gonna have short-term, long-term contracts flowing in.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: That is the new world's reserve currency.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: And the West and the United States under Bessant and Trump, they're fighting that.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: And we're looking at the digitized system, and the battle's far from over.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's not like it's already decided, but if you want to know where the rest of the world's deciding, they don't want do you think these regimes that have very healthy economies based on energy and real resources, do you think they want to trade in uh stable coin?
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Do you do you think they want to trade in sanctionable coin?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like Tether just froze 50 million in an Iranian, supposedly Iranian account or something that touched an Iranian account and was very proud of that.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: So if you think that this is going to be, you know, just like a short blip on the radar, this is the future.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: So just want to throw that out there.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: Pay attention uh where the new infrastructure is being built for the new economic world order.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that is going to be in places like Hong Kong.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: So countries like Russia can have a place to trade their wealth outside of the sanctionable Western system, which we've made it, we've weaponized the dollar to a point where it's hurt our ourselves.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_02: And we're making the dollar less relevant, not more relevant.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: And you can digitize all you want, and you can make these uh off-ramps, look, it looks like what they're trying to do, is make the on and off ramps through stable coin make it an inevitability.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: My argument is um it's not an inevitability if you are uh using the dollar as a weapon and causing countries to opt out and go to a different system, which I believe they've already chosen.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: So pay attention to that.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: All right, let's let's talk a little um a little bit of the the political because we're in the season for it is October.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what the October surprise will be.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um, is there an October surprise for midterm?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes there is.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you if you drill down into the WWE style, the pageantry of our political system, it can be a bit exhausting because you know so much of it isn't real.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you get you'll have the parties controlled by the same entities.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, then you get you know the the base fired up from both sides, and they're both exhausting.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: But um, it is it's interesting to watch the implosion of something.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, we're watching right now, looking at the uh the death of MAGA and whatever that was, and you know, go back and how how insane it seemed like in 2015.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know, we had Bernie Sanders um the rise of the uh populist and socialism and nationalism with Trump.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I remember those days, and you know, I was writing articles, and uh I, you know, had recently run for office, had a radio show, and I I wasn't on the air at the time, but I was really watching the trends.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I was got out in front of the trends before they happened, and just I was kind of an outlier.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: But I remember how important that was.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like the country had enough of illegal immigration, the country had, you know, the the jobs that have been outsourced.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_02: We had all the this, you know, you talk about a 70s-style malaise, but there's just seemed to be watching the American Empire, uh, watching the American experiment, um, being you the the words that were used during the 2016 election by the Clinton camp were managed decline.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like managed decline.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_02: I heard that multiple times by by the the ruling class, both sides, whether you if they are really sides at all, but the managed decline.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: And you look talk about stuff like the Trans-Pacific Partnership that was on the docket, like you couldn't even have a debate on it.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it was hidden like in an in an underground facility.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not kidding.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: You go look at this history, I paid attention to it because I I opposed um free trade agreements, and and technically I still do.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think we need an agreement.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm I've been jaded by the the Trump, the Trumpenstein project on what economic nationalism is because it looks so ridiculous now.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: But uh in theory, I'm for tariffs because they worked.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: And um, but the Trans-Pacific Partnership was this, I think that was the icing on the cake of where we were uh 10, 11 years ago.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: And you had uh Speaker of the House, Paul Ryan, who's overseer of that.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: You weren't allowed to bring it up for debate, you weren't allowed to have any of the files leave the underground uh storage facility, like in the basement of the Capitol.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: You weren't allowed to take pictures of it, you weren't allowed to discuss it, um, because it was a bill so good it had to be passed, and this was, you know, uh Obama was president.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: So there was this underlying uh anger and this pushback.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, Trump through now we know things like uh Cambridge Analytica that had all this 5,000 data points on you know all these Americans using social media, and that's how they built that they really built the phrases like build that wall, like all that stuff, like these lock her up.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like this is stuff that we found out later.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: They tapped into the um the algorithmic system of the disaffected.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: So this is like a real thing, and they used it, and now we get the end game, which you know, obviously uh it's been a big fraud.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, nothing happened of good of substance.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's become like a bastardized version of itself.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like we wanted a a border, and we didn't want, you know, whatever's happening with ice and all this stuff.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like we didn't want that.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, like good finding housemaids in the interior and in Minnesota.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I want, you know, I want border security.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's I thought it was just a common sense kind of thing and uh something that I talked about for years and years.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like it it it's common sense stuff that was it's been again, it's inverted.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's an uh funhouse mirror version of itself.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: I use that term a lot, but it's it's apt, right?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: We we've lost the we lost the thread a while ago on what make America great again means.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: And um now it's just about uh whatever you know policy Israel wants or the big donors, and uh we reached the we're in the great reset decade, it's you know uh 2026, almost 27.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, none of those things happen, but you get to see like the end game is pretty fascinating.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I looked at uh the headline on Drudge was uh Trump Texas rally descends into chaos as hecklers repeatedly interrupt the speech.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_02: Now you gotta remember and I'll put this up on the screen.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how how different this is.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: And now they can Really, no longer tap into uh that anger and distrust and everything that they were able to tap into many years ago because people are just done.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's see.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I go back to the uh beginning of this article, but yeah, it's uh Texas rally descends into chaos as hecklers repeatedly interrupt speech, and Trump says they're paid by enemies of our nation.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's interesting, we never really looked into who funded 2020.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: And if you think that was completely organic, um I don't know.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how to help you.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it certainly wasn't.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like that was uh that was a color revolution, uh, much like we ran on Ukraine and other places around the like we do in South America, and it was an internal thing.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_02: If you've ever seen the movie uh with Wawking Phoenix called Eddington, man, like whoever did that like really captured what 2020 was.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: You have to you have to watch it and truly let it sink in.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like some they're telling you, like the they're showing the protesters being flown in and stuff.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like that was that was 2020.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I I remember being on the air at the time and wondering why the Trump administration didn't do anything.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I got I think I I got my answer.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Trump traveled to San Antonio on Wednesday to campaign for Republican Senate candidate Ken Paxton, making this his third trip to the state, which he won in 2024 in less than a month.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: The uh the first Heckler was violently yanked to the ground by a man wearing a MAGA hat, uh, leading the president to remark from the podium, let me ask you a question.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything like a Trump rally?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of these, these may be plants just to get headlines, but I I I think people are, you know, especially you start Gerald Salente is right.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_02: And when people you know lose everything, they lose it, right?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_02: They lose their lose their mind.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: And um you've you're starting to price people out of just any upward mobility at this point.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: And not that that hasn't been going on for years, but uh it just takes a little bit of a push, like the Joker says on the dark night.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, just a little bit of a push, you know, for chaos.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: And um, especially when you get people in a a situation of hopelessness with gas prices and other things, like they're just pricing themselves out.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_02: After the third, this is the uh the crowd boot in the heckler's direction of being the third heckle.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: Do we have a good time?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a man in a cowboy hat, seemingly a Trump supporter, swatted at the two interpreters, interrupters as security escorted them out.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_02: A law enforcement officer then stepped in to restrain the Trump supporter as he started to follow them.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_02: And Trump says, if there are any more paid protesters, please raise your hand and get the hell out of here.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: The fourth interruption came as Trump was uh taking aim at Democrats, leading him to observe they're getting smaller.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then the fifth, so he was just interrupted the entire time.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: The sixth interruption involved multiple protesters who were forcibly escorted out by law enforcement.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, could be paid, uh, could starting to get organic.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_02: Hard to tell anymore.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_02: The crowd wasn't deterred though, with footage from the right side broadcasting network showing supporters shouting, Daddy Trump, we love you, Daddy Trump.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: Hi I love the uh the Magatard series where I gotta pull this up for the show sometime.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: I saw an ep one of the little shorts where they have this character's it's insane how well done this, this like a it's like a movie, and they he magatard prays to dear President Trump.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't often do this.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: He's praying for 5D chess.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: It is um very well done.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's got to be some Gen Z or or some disaffected uh Gen X or figured that one out.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a pretty funny series, but that's where we are.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: I you know, it could be organic, could be paid, could be a mix of both, but um things aren't gonna be like they were, obviously.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: And you can't tap into like once you've lost, and Lyndon Johnson talked about that.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, power is where power goes.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_02: What that basically means is is that you find yourself in a situation where you're outside of the parameters of things that make you powerful, which is uh keeping your base happy, uh you know, um following through with your word, um, standing on principle.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: People will gravitate towards that.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: But if you step outside of those parameters, it's one of the reasons why Trump got so much money after they raided Mar-a-Lago during the first year of the Biden administration, you know, after the 2020 loss.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was a massive outpouring of support and other things.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: I remember we were on America Unplugged.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, there's no way this guy makes it back.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we were predicting like this is the political obituary.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Trump didn't seem like he wanted to be president in 2020.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, there was the, I mean, I don't know why run the campaign like that.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_02: Why not just show up and get the rallies going?
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't understand the whole uh lockdown thing and mail-in bows, like you're just destroying yourself.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um so I didn't understand it.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you had even like uh Joel Skalson on InfoWars at the end of 2020 saying this Donald Trump's not the leader of the conservative movement and other people like that.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: I thought he was done, but the the amount of sympathy he got uh from the over the heavy-handedness, the FBI, all that stuff that was happening, and the prosecutions, and it's uh you know, who knows at what level the game is being played here?
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_02: But all I do know is at the end of the day, like there's a shift and this is done.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: So you've got to figure out what's next.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: All right, what's what's the next here?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you look at the uh political fallout that's about to happen, and this is something else I discussed with uh David Knight this morning, you really think about it.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like if there's any validity to elections, if and if if we if we cross the boundary here off of November 3rd and Republicans maintain the House and the Senate, that I I I would elections are not real.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's you have to look at the damage that's been done, the betrayal uh of the base of Republicans, and the the overall just being disenchanted.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: That enough, and plus the Democrats, you know, they I watched something Ann Coulter put out the other day, and she's absolutely right.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh to a Democrat oppose the war in Iran.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: All of them.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't mean they actually oppose it, right?
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Because we do know the uh the same donors, both parties, same wishes, but that gives you the illusion of opposition, but it does it in a lockstep way.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: And so uh they've got that, you know.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_02: The same thing with happened in Vietnam era.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, Nixon was able to come in in '68 because LBJ dropped out of the race.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: He he, you know, he couldn't even uh travel anymore as president.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he he didn't really inherit the war from JFK.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_02: JFK was winding down the advisors, and you know, he even said, you know, it's their it's their war to win or lose.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it's one of the reasons he got his head blown off at Daley Plaza in 1963 for a host of other things, but that's one of them, right?
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_02: The military industrial complex wanted that war in Vietnam.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_02: And uh Lyndon carried it through and was completely you know completely obliterated by it.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: He called it that bitch of a war.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like he what it just if you've ever seen Lyndon at the end of his life, he died in 1973.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: But if you look at the one of the last speeches he gave in public, he's just popping nitro pills because he's having angina and a chest pain because he had heart problems.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_02: And he's you know talking about the great society and popping nitro pills.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it just looks it looks bad, but the guy was worn out, and uh the Democrats have done that to themselves, as even Nixon said, the war has crippled the Democrats.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_02: Well, now you fast forward to 2026, and the most unpopular war uh perhaps ever, um, and it hasn't even really, other than the economic impact, um, it it hasn't really done that much damage yet.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: But it was because we weren't we weren't uh seduced into this war.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: We weren't, you know, we weren't um led into it.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: We weren't even given a proper false flag or a psyop or you know, months and months of of propaganda.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there wasn't a yellow cake uranium uh story, there wasn't uh a Saddam has a death ray, there wasn't, you know, weapons of mass destruction, there wasn't any of these things.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_02: There wasn't the the hearings, the lead up, it wasn't Colin Powell at the beginning at the UN talking about mobile bio labs, it wasn't any of that stuff.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: They just did it.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_02: And that's uh another it speaks to another aspect of all of this, like the hurry-up offense.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure what that's for.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: But to go back to my original point, the reason the Democrats have the catbird seat is because they were on the opposite side of this.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I think it's going to be, it could be possibly historic, the amount of damage that's done to the GOP, and rightly so, and they absolutely deserve it for their failure.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um and you know, you the only way to move forward once and for all is you're gonna have to have a true uh reckoning of like you you can't be of dual minds.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: We're first of all, even you know, in the New Testament, Jesus talks about dual loyalties and you can't serve two masters and all that.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can't you can either serve the American people or you can serve foreign interests.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: You can't do both, okay?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_02: I know that in the mind of like Mark Levin and these other you know uh conservatives, I think people like, and maybe that's not even real in their mind, you know, but um, like we're gonna have a balanced budget and unlimited war.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you can't have both of those things, okay?
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, um it your mind, like when you try to solve a problem like that, will eventually you just go mad because it's unsolvable.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like when they ask uh Alexander the Great with the Gordian knot, you know, people would always try to figure out how to untie the knot.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we got to figure this out, you know, over centuries.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: And whoever unties the knot will rule, you know.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_02: And Alexander came by and just said, I figured out, took his sword, and just chopped through the knot.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: It's not as complicated as you make it out to be.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: You can either do one or the other, but not both.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_02: And when you figure that, when they figure that out, it'll be go, it'll be a much better political reality for us than maybe, you know, but you still got to get, I mean, we got sociopaths and grifters and all that stuff.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_02: The point is, is the Democrats are going to have an absolute field day with this.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_02: And that's going to set the tone for a whole host of other things uh moving forward the next couple of years.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, I was looking at trends like economically, I think we'll do a better uh because there'll be gridlock.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: And the markets always respond because that gives them certainty that nothing happens.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: So you the markets will do a little bit better.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, maybe we'll wind some things down here and there.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm hoping for the best, but it's going to be historic, and I bet you it will start looking like the stage is set for the generational uh change in the political spectrum.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_02: You better get ready.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_02: Texas is gonna go that way because you you're looking at you know Greg Abbott here in Texas, like this is I think it's his fourth term.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's FDR numbers, you know?
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, there's not anybody better.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like the the seriously?
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like this is what we this is the best we could do, especially after 2020.
• 35:06
  unknown: You know.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so the Republicans will get what they deserve.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_02: And and I think uh what's the what does it say in the Shawshank Redemption the Bible verse?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's from Isaiah.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: It's anyway, it's on the wall with of the warden.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I always always remember this his judgment cometh and that right soon.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: We shall see, ladies and gents.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's see.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I have to go at about 52 minutes in.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_02: So we've uh we got a little bit of time left.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's jump on this story.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to get and I need to go to the let me go to the comments too, because I'm I do this every single time.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you guys sticking with me.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_02: Matt BH7 says, nice to see you here, Tony.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'd like to hear the bumpers.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_02: You will, I promise.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_02: I and I got I got some cool stuff happening.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_02: I the show was designed to do a little bit different on the radio and the bumpers and the news and stuff, and then um I wasn't treated that great by terrestrial radio.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_02: Can you imagine that?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_02: I wasn't treated all that well by terrestrial radio after uh 2020.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I dropped out for a while.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_02: I'll make sure I get to everybody.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think change repeaters, Ashley.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: Hey Tony, and hey chat.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's good to see you, Ashley.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh Michelle Truth995.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a bit behind.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Tony, it's always been a fake equilibrium, no real balance.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_02: Otherwise, there would be no need to reset of any kind.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_02: True.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's true.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um we live in a manufactured reality for the most part, but you gotta remember, like, so my philosophy is it's God's world, right?
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: God creates everything.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_02: And that means like all of the things belong to God.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's not God's not like you can find a lot of tribalism in people's religious beliefs, but I don't believe I I think God's much bigger than that, like the the originator of space and time and all things, right?
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: So all things, like all the systems.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: So good and evil all flow underneath that, and most of it, you know, any of the evil that comes from the world flows out of the mind of man.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_02: If you take man out of the equation, then there is no evil on earth.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like you take man out, then there's just the balance of nature, and there's just animals and plants and other things, and nature is in itself is not evil.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Man is.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: So we have all this stuff in our reality we choose.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like we choose to get ruled over and subconsciously or something, because we can't fathom, you know.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: That was the problem with the greatest generation, is that um it's as Tom Brokow called them, like some of these people, like they were just great people and they built a magnificent civilization, especially post-World War II.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you had like the hype when we had the Eisenhower years of the 50s and the upper mobility of people and housing was affordable and all this stuff.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we had the the future looked great, you know, except for the fact that they just couldn't believe that, you know, even after fighting evil, but they just couldn't believe that their rulers who, you know, looked the way, looked the part, you know, um, acted the part, could betray them, or that had ill intent or had a darkness around them.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: And they just couldn't see it.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there was a blinder to that.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's why we got where we are.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, people just be like, Oh, I want to have a beer with that guy, you know, whatever.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like, and that you look at the the crimes of of US leaders and the institutions that were built in 1947 with NSC 68 and the departure from the republic experiment that that we were supposed to have, right?
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a republic if you can keep it, as Ben Franklin said.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that I think that was their that was their failure.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody has a failure.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's the ever there has to be a balance.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like they were able to do amazing things in the depression and world war two, and that's why they're called the greatest generation, and they also had the biggest flaw.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: The flaw was they couldn't see.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: They couldn't see in the institutions that we had the the Frankfurt School and cultural Marxism, and you know, the people that were kicked out of Hitler's Germany that set up shop here.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_02: When you can go look at this history, even Mark Levin writes about it, but he called it uh he he misspelled it.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: What did he do?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's like the Frankfurt School or something, like he he's not it's it's from Frankfurt, Germany, you know, like and I think he misspelled it or didn't understand what cultural Marxism was.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: But no, it wasn't you know, institution that's where you get the 1960s, and um and then you had the CIA running not only MK Ultra but NK MK Often and Operation Chaos and all this stuff.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_02: So they just couldn't see it.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, JFK being the most glaring example.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um but there was a shift there.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm gonna do a show on 1963 sometime, and then I'm working on another project if you know if time allows, right?
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: But I but you know it's a weird thing about November 22nd, 1963, is um it's kind of an intersection of history, but you had uh not only uh JFK, but you had other Aldous Huxley died on the same day.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_02: C.S.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_02: Lewis died November 22nd, 1963.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's a bizarre thing.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like history has intersections like that, and you gotta wonder like what did that mean?
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not related.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well, not in the material sense, but in the metaphysical sense, perhaps.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_02: So it's something interesting there.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let me jump around a little bit.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't talk to the I love you guys over on the Rumble chat.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: I see Jason Barker's over there and uh Nostradamus.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm glad Nostradamus is in my chat.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh give me a quatrain on what happens to Bitcoin price.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: I need that.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's let's put this up on the screen.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it should be one of the last stories of the day.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_02: Let me put this up real quick.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: And at the end of the show, we're going to do uh the just a little bit of the interview with that I did with David Knight for the for the live listeners.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, I'll have to end transmission for the terrestrial radio listeners.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: And this should be the only week I have to do it like this.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_02: I just wasn't ready for all the bumpers and stuff.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is natural news.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, U.S.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: officials probe Russian lab death amid questions about a bioweapons history.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_02: And we know a little bit about this story, but I'm covering it just for the historical record, if you'll bear with me.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: A researcher died after unexplained pneumonia at Russia's Irkutsk anti-plague institute raising concerns about a possible laboratory league.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't this funny?
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like um, right on the cusp of people losing their political affiliations and um having no air left and like no oxygen left to support any of the made-up movements.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh this may not be a thing, but it is something to pay attention to.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: Reported genetic similarities between strains in Russia and Ukraine raise questions about biological research and U.S.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_02: linked contractors in the region.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you gotta remember, too, those biolabs that um are in Ukraine.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and I agree, a lot of them are left over or were started uh under the Soviet Empire when the Soviets controlled Ukraine, uh, but they were taken over by the West, you know, and then a lot of this uh in the underlying reasons for tension there, right?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: It'd be like China uh on the border like of Texas and Mexico, just putting in biolabs and running operations and psyops, and like it'd be that's an act of war, right?
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_02: We we we rarely put ourselves in the shoes of uh of adversaries, and then if you do, then people say, well, then you obviously um sympathize with them, or you are a rusophile or something.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you know, I just use common sense.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Russian officials downplay the incident despite quarantines, while the Trump administration is closely monitoring the situation.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: Russia's history of offensive bioweapons research.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Raises questions about engineered, drug-resistant, or more transmissible, transmissible pathogens.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Neighboring countries have tightened health controls while the WHO assesses public health risk as low.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_02: Well, um that's when you know uh just for you know, we we've lived through this, uh, the overblown thing uh that was COVID-1984.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: If we go back and look at the history there, like guys, I mean I've I was plugged in as doing the show five days a week, and I it's seared into my mind forever.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: But I remember, you know, people being bolted into their houses in China and like, you know, like mass spraying and all this stuff, like they were um doing some cleansing operations, people passing out, you know, uh falling over all this stuff that was supposedly happening.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, you you're trying to peel back the layers of what actually is true in the middle of it.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like in the middle of that, you're trying to figure out is any of this real?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and now you look back, I mean, it's funny how so much of it was an op.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like well, they they had to build up the fear in order to, you know, the c to get the operation in place, which was the Friday the 13th uh executive order for the lockdown, which really you know started the domino effect of everything that would follow worldwide.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: You know, this again, it was a worldwide war of governments against their own people and some weird operation that was interlinked between enemies, which is even weirder.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but that that was how they started.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_02: So this doesn't seem to be starting that way yet, right?
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: If we're looking at any of this stuff.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: A 28-year-old female researcher at the Urktus Research Anti-Plague Institute in Shechlov, Siberia, died last week after developing pneumonia of unknown origin, triggering the quarantine of dozens of people.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_02: President Trump told reporters Monday United States was looking uh very strongly and offered to help Russia.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know um these uh it's interesting.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you go back to like the the Wuhan stuff that was happening, and I remember thinking it's it's what uh five minutes away from the level four violence.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_02: And I guess you know, I lost the thread on all the gain of function and whatever everything was under COVID-1984 because the response was the issue.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like the medicine is worse than the disease.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like that was to me what was the glaring issue.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: Then I finally just came to the you know point where I said, I don't care if it came from outer space, I don't care if it was from a meteor.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't you know, I didn't care.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: It was the response that was the issue that was the true danger.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_02: Not only the the the response itself, and then plus the medicine, right?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: The manufactured thing, right?
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: The operation warp speed, like that was the issue issue.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the victim, identified in local media as Daria Shiblova, worked at the uh Irkas Research Anti-Plague Institute, a Soviet-era facility that today studies and monitors high-risk bacterial and viral infections across Siberia and Russia's Far East.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: The institute employs approximately 95 researchers and maintains stocks of some of the world's deadliest pathogens, including bacterium uh Yersenia pestis, which is, oh well, that's like the pestilence, which causes mnemonic plague.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Russian health authorities led by uh Rostopendizar, the federal agency hand handling infectious diseases, have attempted to contain both the outbreak and the narrative.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_02: The agency asserted that no microorganizes organisms associated with the employees' professional duties were detected in samples and that the epit uh epidemological situation in the region was stable.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_02: Epidemiological.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny after you read words for like an hour or two and you try to to pronounce them.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not even gonna attempt it to get I know how to say it, but it's like I get uh almost like fatigue of reading.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is so we'll probably hear a little bit more about this.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting, I find that the story itself pops up uh at a time of geopolitical tensions, at a time of uh you know political uncertainty.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you know, the issue with Ukraine and Russia not being solved.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_02: If you look at the interview that um it's truly terrifying that um Tucker Carlson did with the British defense representative um and the mindset of the defense establishment uh is truly fascinating.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like they're they're still it's always 19 uh uh thirty-eight and it's always Munich, you know, and and even that wasn't real.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like the if you know the history of World War II, but they're just so stuck in that.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's always 1938, it's always Munich, it's always the Third Reich, it's always they and and again, even they got that wrong.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like if you know the true history of World War II and and everything around it, it was they got that wrong, but it's it's always Munich.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's what they always cite.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's the appeasement, it's all that stuff.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um so fascinating interview.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to see if we can play some clips of that maybe next week.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's talk about spot prices really quick.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: Let me pull up uh where did I put spot price?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Let's pull up goldprice.org.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, you can always check prices over at wolfpack.gold, but uh I'll give goldprice.org its due.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh 4,122 Luciferian bankster notes make a troy ounce of the yellow metal.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: I think we're close to the floor on gold right now.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I could be wrong.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_02: Could have a flash sale.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'll back the truck up if we do um for Wolfpack members.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh$58.88 on silver, uh$58.88.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: It's down$1.14 an ounce over yesterday.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh good time to buy both of those metals, and not just for me.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, buy them anywhere you want, but that's um that's my two cents on the fiat markets.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: So uh wolfpack.gold, uh wisewolf.gold, uh tony.gold.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: Anywhere you want to find me and uh welcome all of our our new listeners if you want to turn uh your soon-to-be worthless fiat dollars into actual money, then give me uh a call or an email through the system.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_02: Again, that's uh WiseWolf Gold and Silver.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: And uh pleasure to be with all of you today.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: Again, the show is a little bit shorter uh on the radio side, and I'll fix this for next week and fix the schedule, but uh to stay true to our radio listeners, we'll stay at the 52-minute mark.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_02: But I appreciate each and every one of you uh enjoy this clip from the David Knight show this morning as we wind out the uh the rest of the show.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_02: But end of the transmission.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, guys, stand by and get this.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: I'll get this one, this clip from the David Knight show.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Tony Artiban of Wise Wolf Gold, and he has set up uh David Knight.gold.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take you to him, let him know that you came through us.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the economic system that has been engineered now and the engineered destruction of the petrodollars I was saying before, based on creating stability throughout the Middle East.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now these people understand that they cannot depend on the United States for stability throughout the Middle East.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: As a matter of fact, they will join in with Israel to create instability.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's on very shaky ground.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: But we also have the AI bubble, which is also on very shaky ground.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, when you look at this, I'm seeing one article after the other.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, we've been talking about this bubble thing for quite a while, Tony, but I'm seeing one article after the other talking about how uh the it's impending.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: And now that we're starting to get some of the financials of some of these companies as they're putting together their IPO, uh it's kind of comical when you look at it.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, this stuff is way beyond anything that Enron ever did already.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: And we got multiple Enrons happening all at once.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we've talked about this for years.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the the modern Wall Street system is not built on profitability.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: If you look at the balance sheets of these companies, it's the health of the companies are based on their ability to get uh cheap venture capital, more liquidity, to borrow more.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's based on you know earnings that are estimated, not actual earnings.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like a hundred times earnings on some of these companies.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: So or maybe the greater fool.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_02: Right, maybe the greater fool, you know, and it's a it's it's really more Ponzi and insider trading than anything these days.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not based on value.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_02: And you know how I know that.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you know, I'm a I'm an amateur when it comes to like you know economics and what what uh the markets actually yield, but I can I look at history to be my guide.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: And if we go back, it's it's a fun metric because I always go back to this year, but 1980 is very important.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_02: If you go back to 1980 as a metric where gold crossed over in like$850 an ounce and silver was$52 an ounce, if you look at that, if you look at the share of wealth that those two metals had in the overall financial market of the earth.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, you know, this was you know the height of the Cold War for the most part.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_02: You had the Soviet Empire versus the American Empire.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of geopolitical stasis, but in that the the share of wealth by the metals markets was about like 120th.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_02: And if you look at it now, with all these fiat derivatives and and again stuff based, you know, sovereign wealth funds and currencies, it's like 1% maybe.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: So we we've draw we we've fallen, you know, with actual value.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: Actual value has been placed way over here in the periphery, whereas all this other stuff that is a bubble, and again, we're just we're being a little bit, you know, I'm pulling back a little bit, just looking at the big picture.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: But this is in the macro setting, the real assets are not really truly valued like they were uh 46 years ago.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: Not even close.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_02: So we're we're in a really different world.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of this is overblown, and uh the bubbles get bigger and bigger because of the fiat system itself.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, the AI bubble, uh, it's all really kind of like an AI hallucination that it's out there.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, just believe these people and and take whatever they say is true, just like you should believe whatever the chat program tells you.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, don't ever sandy check any of this stuff.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: But now they're starting to get their sandy check.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it it truly is amazing when you look at how little money they have made, how much money they have spent.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you got Anthropic is not is not even covering their computing costs with what they sell.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: They're still operating at a loss on each individual thing.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's looking more and more like Ford's uh, what was it, the F-150 version that was electric, and they take the most popular vehicle out there, a truck, and then they uh turn it into an EV and they start losing a phenomenal amount of money off of each one of these trucks.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's basically what's happening with Anthropic.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that that's pretty typical of the modern tech company and and not to mention AI.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_02: And what's interesting about the destructive power of AI and not just this bubble, um, and I think a lot of it can be useful.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's interesting if you you know look at the way that AI can help you like disseminate information and and uh you know all the stuff that they help you keep up with in real time, especially stuff that I use for sourcing intel, it's it's pretty valuable.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: And one thing it it actually replaces is it replaces all the the hop, the the uh snobbish kind of uh hop knobby guys, you know, like the white-collar people.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't replace the plumber, it doesn't replace the electrician, you know, it doesn't replace the auto worker that that that you know builds something.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_02: It really can't, even if you have robots, and it's funny Pat Buchanan mentioned that when I'm watching him, you know, 15, 20 years ago, and somebody said, Well, what about the the robots that replace the workers?
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, Well, somebody's got to build the robots.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, robots don't build robots or repair them.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: So you're gonna have some, there's always gonna be human hands in something.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's that's the issue with all this tech stuff, is that it's it's probably gonna be very destructive for those who have built a career on uh the system being fake itself.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's there's again, there's not much value floating around, but because we live in a uh a currency system that's not backed by anything, a lot of that gets inflated.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_02: So it it gives you the perception of value instead of the actual value in these markets.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when we look at um and when we look at value, we need to understand that uh the value of um uh what is really happening with gold, I think, is not reflected in whatever today's current market price is.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_00: This thing is jumping around all over the place in terms of a lot of noise and a lot of disinformation that's there.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when we talk about the distortion of Wall Street, uh we competed with Blockbuster for about 20 years, and um, after they were very profitable at the very beginning, uh, when it was run by Wayne Heizinga of uh Waste Industries, he made a lot of money off of uh trash collection, and then he put trash out for people to watch, which is what I did as well.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_00: That was what the video's business was about.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: But uh he got bought by the Paramount people, right?
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: And um Sumner Redstone and his um uh Viacom, which owned Paramount CBS and a lot of other big media companies, they bought Blockbuster and they never made a profit.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_00: But they were like the last of the video stores to go to shut down.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: But they operated for like 20, 25 years, losing money every single year.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: And they were able to do that because of Wall Street.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_00: Wall Street will fund something that doesn't make any money and they'll fund it forever.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you can just keep uh selling this uh this happy story.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_00: Look at Moderna.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_00: They operated for 10 years without making a profit by using the stock market.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_00: They would put out happy stories about some miracle drug that they had with mRNA, and then people look at it and say, no, that's not gonna work.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now we got another one.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this one's gonna cure cancer or whatever.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: They did that game for 10 years before they were given massive amounts of money by uh Trump.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: And so you can operate a company at a loss.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have a real profit.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you can operate just as a Ponzi scheme on Wall Street.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: We've seen it with Moderna, we've seen it with Blockbuster.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, so uh that's what we're looking at right now.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, uh Bank of America has been very bullish on uh their their commodities analysts have been very bullish on gold.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: They're now not quite as bullish.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_00: They're saying uh that risk that gold prices could fall below 4,000 in the fourth quarter.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_00: What do you think?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's possible.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason being is because of this war of choice that was launched by Donald Trump here in February of this year.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and perhaps this was simulated.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_02: I I I tend to lean towards that now, that they have to build a cover for the great reset and the monetary reset that they need to do.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: And if you go back and look at uh statements that Scott Bessett made, you know, just two years ago or so, that the world economic order needs to be reset.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's going to be a new Bretton Woods, and now he's in that position, as he said earlier about the bond market.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm the house now.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_02: So bet against the house if you want to.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the the the market's betting against him and doing quite well, actually.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_02: I I think all of this, you know, if you look at the the Fed's decision to raise rates, which, you know, it in the face of everything that's unhealthy about the economy, especially in the United States, um, it's it's a pretty crazy decision.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the reason we have inflation is because the price of crude went so high and then the futures markets jumped.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: I was listening to a show yesterday, they talked about the actual price of diesel right now is akin to$200 a barrel oil.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: It was kind of interesting.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: There was one metric they they were talking about, a uh a tanker of oil just sold on the market for 10 times the price of what it did a year ago.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: Ten times the price.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_00: $79 million.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: You have you have those metrics built into our system, and and you know, the Fed and these financial wizards, um, you can raise rates, but that doesn't open a shipping lane.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you can do all you can try to tighten the monetary system.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny, I saw an article on Kitco, and one of the arguments was, well, the bond market's given a high yield, so got high yields on bonds, and so it's it's it's pushing, putting pressure on gold.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought, are you really dumb enough to do that?
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know they pay you back at dollars, right?
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean like uh I always go back to the infrastructure that's being built.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_02: It's very important to watch because that's the new, like what you're watching the future with uh the stuff that's being built.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_02: So we're just in this really weird lull where you know silver is not priced correctly, gold's not priced correctly.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Bank of America could be correct.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: I do think that the 4,000 is probably the floor on gold given uh central bank uh gold demand.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_02: But again, you know, if you look at the rising cost of energy and all the pressure that it's putting on fiat currencies, their initial reaction will be to raise rates uh to tighten the monetary supply, but then the the economies that they oversee are going to collapse.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're gonna have to lower them really quick.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so it's gonna be this push-pull thing.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_02: They don't have a lot of tricks up their sleeves.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I'm long term, obviously long-term bullish on gold versus the dollar, but we are in this weird kind of upside-down world right now where you know, going back to January when silver was$120 an ounce.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think part of it is people will get gold for a rainy day, right?
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_00: And it's raining really hard.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think a lot of that uh people are having to cover positions, and uh, so they got to go back and uh, you know, sell something that is uh uh made money for them.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: And and so uh you had a lot of speculators who got into it when it was going up very rapidly.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_00: But the central banks, as you point out, they're still collecting this stuff because they understand what the reality is, and and they see the long-term picture.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's when you're getting record high um uh rates on your bonds and things like this.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_00: That uh uh why is that happening?
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's happening because people don't really want them and they understand the risk in terms of inflation and other things on the inflation and the currency issues that are there.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why they're having to bribe people, uh, bribing them to say you're gonna pay them back with more of these uh this monopoly money that's out there.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: But uh it's all the more reason, I think, to look at something that is real and something that's gonna be outside of the system that they're building, because as we talk about the system they're building, the system that Bessant and Lutnick are building is a uh a system of uh the mark of the beast where the everything is by permission and uh control.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_00: They control all of it and can remove all of it at the push of a button.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and these overlords are not immune to reality either.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_02: If you go back to 2025, uh around August, um you look at the the study that was done by the Federal Reserve, they put out uh a white paper looking at what would happen if we revalued our gold on the balance sheet.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_02: This is just for the Fed uh to rebalance the gold on their balance sheet from the$42 an ounce that we stopped in 1971 uh to where it is today, you know, which you know back then I think we're probably around 4,500 or wherever it was uh around a year ago.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_02: So the again, the system, and you look at Scott Bessant hiring Judy Shelton, who was the architect for the gold-backed bonds idea, like that's uh an insider that understands like we could actually issue gold-backed bonds, we're not immune to that.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_02: The the overseers, uh the so-called elite, they look at that too.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um the rest of the world is, and I think the reason why is because the world's abandoning the dollar system, and rightly so.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_02: As I've mentioned many times before, and there's uh and we've talked about this probably for a year and a half now, but um you know, Hong Kong caught my attention as because of what the the infrastructure that they're building there, which is uh around 2,000 tons of gold uh in the next couple of years will be able to be stored there.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I looked at an article up on KitCo, and before the uh invasion of Ukraine, before we levied so much more sanctions and it, you know, that blowback that happened because of what we did on to Russia after their invasion of Ukraine.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_02: If you look at the amount of uh uh tonnage that Was moved into uh Hong Kong through Russia is around uh 30.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's around 30 tons, and now they got like 116 tons.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_02: So no, it's oh it's three to a hundred and sixteen.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, it's like three.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_02: So it's this massive uptick in gold that's flowing through because Russia can't send its gold to London anymore.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_02: It can't use those traditional routes, and now they're building in Asia, they're building this big hub where all these other countries can uh exchange gold and then do it in real time, and it's it's it can be stored there, and then obviously, you know, in a uh a sanctioned-friendly environment, so away from the dollar system.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_02: This is this is the stuff that I watch.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh because I think that's where that's where we're headed.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_02: And uh and the powers that be on our side, uh, I guess our side uh that rule over us understand that too.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and why look at this?
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: To me, it's a perfect storm that's happening there.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: Not only do we have this irrational war that is happening that's so destructive to the global economy and uh causing uh uh so much damage, but we also have this uh this gigantic AI bubble that is there.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_00: And um, and as you point out, the shifting infrastructure away from the petrodollar as well.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_00: So you've got all these different factors coming together all at once.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so when this great shaking comes through, what can you uh, you know, what what is the firm rock that you can rest your finances on?
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's gold.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: When you look at what's going on with Anthropic, for example, look at their IPO.
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_00: This is an article from um uh Yahoo.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Eight things that don't add up about their IPO.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_00: Number one, a$2 trillion price tag when they've got$4 billion in sales.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: What's a price turning ratio?
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that they lost$8 billion, uh the headline,$42 billion loss, exaggerates the cash cash burn, yet the underlying business is still losing billions, and those losses are growing.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, for example, when they look at uh the fact that uh what their uh profit claim is, it leaves out the cost of them building out AI.
• 1:08:11
  SPEAKER_00: And uh then they spend more on computing than it earns.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_00: They lose uh money on all these different transactions, just like I was saying before, like an electric uh uh F-150.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_00: They spent$7 billion on compute in 2025 against$4 billion in sales.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh they they have they spent about$1.60 in computing for every$1 of revenue.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_00: And then it gets even worse, Tony, because when you look at their competitors in China, like Deep Seek.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Anthropic had some of the highest prices of any of the American AI companies, and they were 100 times more expensive than DeepSeq.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what you could get and for Deep Seek and spend three cents, you'd spend over$3 at Anthropic.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and and yet this is what our stock market is built on.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_00: Our stock market is built on a couple of companies like this.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_00: Meta is another one, uh, and Meta has a footnote, they've got an off-balance sheet debt.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_00: And um the stock gets 35% more expensive if you look at that.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: They say uh adding the off BS debt to Meta's uh estimated value raises its valuation multiples by 35%.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you're talking about off BS debt, uh that that BS stands for balance sheet, or maybe it stands for bull sheet.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_00: That's our financial statements.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it it's interesting.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_02: I've I noticed that, you know, a year or so ago when I got a Chat GPT account.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_02: I thought, well, this is$19.99 a month.
• 1:09:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's for a standard breakdown.
• 1:09:46
  SPEAKER_02: Well, cell phones three times that.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_02: You gotta think, look at the market like so is it you're again, we're way more expensive than the Asian versions of of these systems, uh yet um not enough to make these companies worth the trillion dollars or be the next iPhone or anything like that, because there has to be an end uh profitability.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_02: There has to be a way to monetize it.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I've wondered how they're gonna do that.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I think maybe it's just being cheap and then having this overvalue uh is a way to disrupt and take over, you know, search engines and everything, what what Google was or is.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, there has to be some infrastructure, you know, internet, Silicon Valley stuff that they're trying to overtake.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's not you're not going to create a new market worth a trillion dollars.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure how you would do that given you know the user fee is 20 bucks.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_02: And they've gotten a lot of flack for being that expensive, like you said.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, against uh the Deep Seek and other things, like they wanted to look at lowering prices.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure how they would do that and be profitable.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_02: What exactly are they?
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, part of their business model, of course, has always been based on theft.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's like YouTube, right?
• 1:10:56
  SPEAKER_00: They they grab and and I talked about this a couple of days ago.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_00: The uh it's like uh even in the documents in this lawsuit where New York Times is suing them for um intellectual property uh theft, uh, in their own documents, they said uh we're creating these doom loops.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_00: We're taking uh whether it's articles from journalists or websites or whether it is music or film or whatever, we're grabbing all this stuff and we're cutting out the creators.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: And they said, How long can this go on?
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, when we just live off of other people's creations, other people's music, for example, on YouTube.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody buys music anymore.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: They just go listen to it on YouTube, and YouTube gives you ads, and they get the lion's share of the money, and they give a little bit of it to the artist.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_00: But as they de incentivize all this, uh, this whole business model is really based on theft.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's why they think that's one of the reasons that they've gotten so much money.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_00: They think they can keep this up and they can extend it because that's what they're doing with AI.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: They're just extending the theft model, co-opting other people's work.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_02: The whole premise reminds me of uh there was a uh a speech writer for Nixon when uh Pat Buchanan worked in the Nixon administration, and that his name was Herbert Stein, and he had he had written something down.
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_02: They said they called it Herbert Stein's Law.
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_02: And Buchanan referenced it all the time.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's basically said, if something cannot go on forever, it will stop.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_02: That was Herbert Stein's.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_02: So a lot of this is just you know the fake markets and uh these overvaluations.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember having these conversations with my dad in the late 90s, you know, and he uh my dad's uh was an entrepreneur sometimes he was 12 years old and had built you know multiple businesses and would talk to me about the stock market.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_02: And he goes, You know what would happen if I valued my company at a hundred times earning, like all these like you had gasoline business and convenience stores, it'd be some insane number that's not worth that, you know.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they go, that's why I don't my my dad never invested in stock.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, he's like, I used to invest in my own company, I don't do that uh based off of the earning, but that was you know, dot-com bubble uh era, which seems quaint now compared to they're just building stuff that doesn't even make any sense at this point.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I agree the technology is is amazing, but you got to monetize it, and it has to be reasonable.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_02: Not everything deserves an IPO.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I just think if you're looking for value in this current climate, and and you know, to get back to that, I mean, base level, uh, you're not gonna go wrong with having physical gold or physical silver, um, something that's outside of the system.
• 1:13:28
  SPEAKER_02: You have to be able to weather the storm, have the pain tolerance to go through some of these things that don't make any sense.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why would we depart January at$120 an ounce for silver, have the world turned upside down, and now we're half that value.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if silver is a monetary metal, well, I give you all these explanations why, and nobody really saw coming, or maybe they did.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_02: I certainly didn't.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I do know that the long-term thesis is correct.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that's I believe that, or I wouldn't be in the business that I'm in.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't have to be smart, you just said look at history.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_02: Every fiat currency goes to zero.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, history gives us that um lay that layout, that blueprint.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the average lifespan of a of a currency not backed by gold or silver is 26 years.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_02: So we've more than doubled that because we're the world's reserve currency.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_02: But as you and I mentioned over the past many years, we lost the petrol dollar, um, whether on purpose to create this new digitized off-ramp with these stable coins, which probably looks more likely every single day.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_00: And they make money off of it.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_00: And they enrich themselves as well.
• 1:14:36
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, we look at these bubbles, and you you were talking about the uh dot-com bubble, and um, you know, the dot-com, the internet was a real thing, and there was a lot of money to be made there.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_00: However, uh the market is irrational in both directions.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_00: It uh built it up way too fast, and then when it realized that it built it up way too fast, it tore it down way too much as well.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing we need to understand is that these bubbles don't just um say, well, you know, this is too high.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Let's take it down to a rational level.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_00: When it busts, it's going to go below any rational level.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_00: We already lived through that with a dot-com bus.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, all of the techs, the stocks went down.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't just uh some of the dot-coms that were there, but you had the people who were making the picks and shovels for the internet went down.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you had every single tech company went down.
• 1:15:23
  SPEAKER_00: And um we're going to see something like that happening with this because this market is much more narrow.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_00: And there's been so much more, as Alan Greenspan put it, irrational exuberance.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're gonna see irrational exuberance in the other direction as well.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's the way these bubbles operate.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, they overcorrect in both directions.
• 1:15:40
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so that's that's gonna be the big issue, I think.
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you look at this and you look at the fact that uh Mark Zuckerberg has got on their balance sheet, they've got$112 billion worth of costs, but then actually it's$628 billion.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that's like five or six times the amount.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_00: So uh it's kind of funny when you look at it, but it's going to be when the music stops, it's it's gonna be really, really bad, and you're gonna need to have some kind of a gold chair to set in, I think.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's interesting if we if you just remove the emotion out of it and and just the absurdity from it, it's interesting to look at.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um the markets are are irrational.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_02: They're irrational because I think my premise is that we have a fake currency, and we're saying no accountability to that.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you don't have to really reckon it.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't, you know, you can't the so many dollars don't equal an ounce of gold fixed.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that that just some it just summons this sort of market behavior where you have massive times earnings estimates that aren't real.
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh you have these massive uh budget overruns, um, you know, 40 trillion in in debt.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know that uh the Ray Dalio was uh article over on Kitko talking about how that this is 100% going to be inflated away.
• 1:17:04
  SPEAKER_02: And what do you do when you inflate away 40 trillion?
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_02: You create more debt that you have to inflate away, which is creates this endless uh cycle of you know a snake eating its own tail.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_02: So you your your premise of holding physical metals in the face of this, I think is you don't have to be a genius to figure out like that's the that's the proper move because you're talking about a fixed uh supply of something, and that could be even Bitcoin, but I'm just talking about physical, a fixed supply of something in a sea of infinite is is what I do.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I think all the markets and things that are being built, you know, especially in the face of the new digitized system that you and I have discussed, where I think is really important to watch, you know, the stuff with Tether and how they just sanctioned, you know, Iranian money, like 50 million or something that they sanctioned, and we're very proud of that.
• 1:17:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_02: We'll still anybody's money, yeah, for the government.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's like just being in the coming years, and because trust is especially in this fourth turning, trust is diminishing and has diminished.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_02: And then we have a, you know, what if the the clown world order of the Trump administration, which is about to hit a real speed bump, okay?
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like in the next what, uh, 28 days, something like that, we're gonna see uh the the House uh and this most likely the Senate is gonna go to the Democrats because the Republicans' disastrous, disastrous performance in the past couple of years.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, if we have uh honest elections, I think that'll that'll happen.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, you know, that's it's gonna be a real that's gonna be the interesting outcome, I think, to see just how honest the elections are.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that that would that would be a good litmus test if if if the if the Democrats don't sweep, then then then there's no legitimacy because there's no way people are showing up going, I love these prices and these Republicans did a good job.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like even here in Texas, I don't know unless you're just hardcore, still wearing your MAGA hat, you know, like you you live under power lines or something.
• 1:19:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's what would have what's going on with your brain if you still want to.
• 1:19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, you got Abbott uh is uh is they're concerned about Abbott, they're concerned about Paxton.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, Paxton's not a strong candidate, but Abbott, this would be what, his third term, I guess, that's there.
• 1:19:15
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, they're all struggling against the Democrats.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're doing so well that in North Carolina, the Democrats have said, all right, this we're not gonna spend any more money, they were just gonna coast the victory here in North Carolina.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_00: And you got places that haven't had a Democrat senator for 94 years, are now trending towards the Democrats.
• 1:19:33
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it will be a litmus test for the honesty of the elections, I think.
• 1:19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's it's uh it's Greg's fourth term, I think.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think uh yeah, but I remember I I ran for Congress at the same time uh that Greg Abbott was running in the primary.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_02: He was attorney general of Texas.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_02: I remember I went to a speech that he uh convention and he uh somewhere, I think I was actually here.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_02: I was in Sherman, Texas, and it was a long distance, it's gosh, it's 2013.
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_02: And uh he just talked about how he sues the Obama administration.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_02: It stuck with me because I thought, well, you know, you have the what about the Ninth and Tenth Amendment?
• 1:20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Like I guess I was wondering why why don't you exercise that?
• 1:20:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when you just you get lawsuits that don't go anywhere.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_02: That's I remember, I don't know if you remember a man named Tom Paulkin, but Tom Paulkin was head of the uh the young Republicans back in the late 60s.
• 1:20:24
  SPEAKER_02: He's mentioned in a couple of Buchanan's books.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I ran into Tom Paulkin one day at a at a a meet and greet, and he was running for governor at the same time against Abbott.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_02: It would have been a great can would have been a great governor, you know, uh real conservative.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_02: And he said, uh, no, he goes, Um, Abbott's already got all the money, you know.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's a rope guy, neocon.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, he's like, he's not he's not good for Texas.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, he wasn't good in 2020, that's for sure.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_02: He certainly wasn't.
• 1:20:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, one of the yeah, it's just a huge disappointment, but that's you get those cookie cutter uh candidates and people, and yeah, it's fourth term.
• 1:21:00
  SPEAKER_02: So uh I think there's a there's a writing on the wall politically across the United States, and it's these energy prices really breach that.
• 1:21:08
  SPEAKER_00: I've got a question for you, and we're gonna take that when we come back, Tony.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got to take a break here at the top of the hour, folks.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_00: We will be right back with a question for Tony.
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Stay with us.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Decoding the mainstream propaganda, it's the David Knight Show.
• 1:21:56
  SPEAKER_00: All right, welcome back.
• 1:21:57
  SPEAKER_00: And we're talking to Tony Ardeban of Wise Wolf Gold.
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And again, you can get to uh Tony with uh David Knight.gold.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_00: And one of the things that Tony does that I really love, and I think it's something he's oriented towards the little guys like us.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, if you want to start gradually setting aside and preparing for this economic uh disaster that is coming together, all these different uh this perfect storm, you can start doing that a little bit at a time.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the way that you all got always have to start preparing for anything.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_00: As I said uh yesterday, Jack Lawson talks about preparing um uh in terms of food.
• 1:22:31
  SPEAKER_00: He said, just start buying a can of food here and there, and uh you won't even notice the money that you're spending on and start storing it like under your bed, for example.
• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_00: You don't need to wait until you've got enough money to go out and make a big order of some kind of storable food.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just start storing it yourself little by little.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that's what Tony does with Wise Wolf.
• 1:22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Gives you an opportunity to start actually preparing, not waiting until you've got some uh big transaction put through, but you can start doing it on a regular basis and uh just kind of fire and forget.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, you can change it at any time as well.
• 1:23:04
  SPEAKER_00: But I got a question here for you, Tony.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Hatchcar61 says, uh, with the instability taking place in the world and bond yields and oil rising in price, why do you think precious metals are selling off?
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_02: Well, part of the answer to the question is the question itself.
• 1:23:20
  SPEAKER_02: And the precious metals are are selling off because the the participants in that uh system need liquidity.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_02: They probably already had holdings.
• 1:23:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um like the the war itself and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, um, it was a big shock to the global system, which was already fragile in the first place.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and we even from you know, we're still reeling from the the Trump lockdowns of of 2020 and the supply disruptions and everything that happened just in the United States, but globally, so that that was a real shock.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_02: And um, gold served its function.
• 1:23:56
  SPEAKER_02: Silver is a lot less so.
• 1:23:57
  SPEAKER_02: And people uh ask me about this all the time.
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_02: I think silver has a way higher upside, but you got to ride that volatility.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's the thing, it's kind of like Bitcoin, you know, bitcoin's very volatile.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you can have 30, 40 percent swings, you know, and sometimes that really goes into your favor.
• 1:24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Gold a lot less so.
• 1:24:15
  SPEAKER_02: Gold is gold is the the most mature monetary asset in the world.
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's been it's been creeping into the the financial system for thousands of years.
• 1:24:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's uh you know, you go back to to Lydia, you know, the uh Croesus who had the first um gold coins and it's called Electrum.
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_02: It was uh an alloy of gold and silver, first coinage, you know, this 2500 BC or so.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_02: And and and gold predates even that by thousands of years and tradability and other things.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_02: So gold's had a huge head start on just about everything and every currency that's out there.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why it's used in what I like about gold um is I know whether I'm here in Denison, Texas, uh, or whether I'm in Beijing, uh, or whether I'm in Australia.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_02: And spot is spot.
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah you know, the Robert Kiyosaki tells a great story about um he was a uh a marine helicopter pilot in Vietnam, and he was very interested in money his whole life.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so he's a young guy, he's in Vietnam, he's a helicopter pilot.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_02: He flies behind enemy lines because they had they had a gold mine there because he's in Vietnam and flies behind uh enemy lines to go buy some gold, and he meets an old lady, they chewed this like beetroot kind of thing and made their teeth red, and she just put out her hand and said spot, and he didn't know what that meant because this is like 1971, you know, but right when we went off the gold standard.
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_02: So he wanted some gold uh and he learned what spot was.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_02: Basically, spot was universal in this little hamlet in Vietnam and North Vietnam in a war, is just as it was, you know, uh thousands of miles away.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_02: So uh spot's universal, that's a great thing.
• 1:25:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and that pretty much syncs up the world around like what value is.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um so uh gold is very liquid, silver candy, but the most liquid monetary asset on earth, gold.
• 1:26:12
  SPEAKER_00: And as you're pointing out, it's a bit of a roller coaster.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_00: And as I've said before, I'm I get too old to ride roller coasters.
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, they just had some roller coasters, I forget where it was, was it six flag or something?
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe you saw it, where they had to shut the ride down.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_00: They had people get injured because the whiplash on it was so severe it caused them to have brain damage.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, I I can relate to that economically.
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh if I had some brain damage from some economic roller coaster.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_02: I probably do.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't realize how much this stuff affects me.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I it just catches up with me sometimes, you know.
• 1:26:42
  SPEAKER_02: And I go, wow, I really am in the middle because they're trying to balance so many orders and buying and locking and doing all this stuff to do to protect yourself, you know, because you're in a volatile thing.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I like it when gold dips into the you know 3,900 range because I'm gonna back the truck up and buy a bunch of professional gold for Wolfpack and pass the savings on.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm okay with you and the Chinese central bank are doing the same thing.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_02: That's the smart what's funny, but human nature, when I your audience ought to start meditating on this.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_02: So human nature will show you buying something at the top.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_02: And I don't know why that is.
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I buy things, and not enough, but I buy things.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_02: I was buying Bitcoin at$400.
• 1:27:22
  SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, I I put them, I put all the Bitcoin through my machines.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_02: I should have just kept them.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it that's okay.
• 1:27:29
  SPEAKER_02: Lesson I learned how to use it.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I guess it's a very expensive, very expensive lesson on learning how to use a cryptocurrency 10 years ago.
• 1:27:37
  SPEAKER_02: But um, no, I you know, gold's liquid.
• 1:27:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's why it was sold off um during that volatility.
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, but make no mistake, it will like it'll it'll find its level again.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we're way undervalued right now.
• 1:27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it it fulfilled its purpose, and that was to uh help people on a rainy day, and we got this perfect storm that's coming, and uh, when we look at all the different results of These different things.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, whether we're talking about a permission-based uh financial system or talking about massive inflation, um, you know, it always points back to gold to me.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_00: I got a comment here from Star Barkley, and thank you for the tip, Star.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate that.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm now proud Alpha Wolf.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_00: It feels so good.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Great company, Tony.
• 1:28:19
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 1:28:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's uh and I I've I I can uh underscore that as well.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it is a great way to start to dollar cost average, be able to be part of a buying group and uh get that leverage there as well.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_00: And also just regularly save.
• 1:28:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's a lot to be said for a regular savings program.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_00: And if you've got a savings program, you might want to put it in something, it's not gonna lose value.
• 1:28:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's the key.
• 1:28:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think so.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, anything else you want to tell us, Tony, about what's happening uh with Wise Wolf or uh the world?
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_02: Well well, I got a show coming up here uh at uh 11 Central, 12 Eastern, Arterburn Radio Transmission, and uh I'll I'll be live for about an hour.
• 1:29:02
  SPEAKER_02: And um, yeah, working on a bunch of different projects.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's funny, uh three.
• 1:29:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think you and I have the same uh not you do it so much more broadcast.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how you do the shows that you do.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Um but it's getting harder.
• 1:29:15
  SPEAKER_02: I think I just aged 10 years um six years ago when I did a full week of shows for you.
• 1:29:20
  SPEAKER_02: But no, I I I I'm looking at um doing a lot more uh intel for people.
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm working on a newsletter.
• 1:29:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's something that uh it's gonna come to fruition uh by the end of the year.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm hoping.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, but you know, the weeks bleed into themselves, David.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of get it, it gets away from me.
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_02: And by Thursday, I'm like, it's Thursday again.
• 1:29:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go talk to David, I gotta do my show.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so um, you know, I appreciate everybody's patience with a lot of these projects and things that we're doing.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_02: But the cool thing about Wolf Packing, like you mentioned, um, and this company that we built, and I got a such a great team.
• 1:29:52
  SPEAKER_02: They make me look good, by the way.
• 1:29:53
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I there's no way I can do all the stuff that my my people do.
• 1:29:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um but we've got a lot of improvements and other things coming your way and other great products that they think uh your your um comment on the Alpha Wolf.
• 1:30:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, if you look at that, um, you know, it's a$250 a month uh dollar cost averaging out Alpha Wolf is.
• 1:30:15
  SPEAKER_02: I just started putting in half gram gold into it.
• 1:30:18
  SPEAKER_02: So we were able to source half gram gold bars, which I haven't been able to get for a long time.
• 1:30:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um the premiums, you know, we cut those premiums down uh significantly.
• 1:30:26
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a great way to hold.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you get a half gram of gold, get a gold bar, it's uh it's usually assayed, and then you get um, you know, silver, silver, eagle, stuff like that, and fractional silver.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's a good mix.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_02: I spend time on these invoices, so I appreciate that.
• 1:30:41
  SPEAKER_02: And uh that's great.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_02: We're just trying to make it more efficient, easier, and plus you you can always get in touch with me.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's no AI bot like you know, rerouting you to some call center.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like you can get through the that's right.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, and you know, we just had uh I haven't gotten to it yet, but we had a uh just had a CIA crook uh get caught and he had a little, what was it?
• 1:31:04
  SPEAKER_00: 194 million dollars worth of gold.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_00: He had bars, gold bars, and all this other kind of stuff, but uh they know where to put it, you know.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's no fun.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't he didn't invest it and he didn't hold it in fiat currency, he put it in gold.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's exactly right.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh just like uh that crooked center up in New Jersey.
• 1:31:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh what was it, Menendez?
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was collecting uh his money on the side.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_00: So it it's out of the system.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_00: That's the key thing.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna hold its value.
• 1:31:30
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so we should all be thinking about that because they want to criminalize all of us in terms of everything that we do, beginning with our speech.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, you know, you want to have something that's outside of that system.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's really been driven on with me with PayPal and Venmo and other places like that.
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_00: So um I want to, my first priority is getting out of the system.
• 1:31:49
  SPEAKER_00: And if it's something that's going to hold its value, that's I'm there.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's that's really what I want to focus on.
• 1:31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you so much, Tony.
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's always great talking to you.
• 1:31:57
  SPEAKER_00: And again, you can go to David Knight.gold.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take you to Tony's WiseWolf and let him know that you came through us and um uh start thinking about how you can start to prepare outside of this system that they're designing.
• 1:32:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a system that you want to be a part of, but you want to be part of Wise Wolf.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Tony.
• 1:32:16
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
• 1:32:18
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be right back, folks.