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RLCL 400: Wicked Preachers of (Winston-)Salem · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull.
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How you doing buddy? Dude, I am good.
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I'm good back from vacation, been kind of working my way back
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into the swing of things after a few days in the mountains, it
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was. It was a nice break, though.
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It was very nice. Break, got to relax a little
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bit, do a couple fun things. Nothing too major.
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What about you, man? Just same old, same old man,
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taking another Friday off which I think.
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I now I've got to go back and look.
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I think I have to take one more day.
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Also, I think the only other Friday between now and
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Christmas. I'm now going to be taking off.
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So, you know, shortly short weeks from here on out because
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you yourself just got a nice short week and at the end of the
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year, it's kind of nice to have to look forward to a day off
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like every week, right? That's always nice.
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It's a good feeling. Yeah.
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I've been doing the like a day or two a week in the office and
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three days at home. So it's been kind of a mixed
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match here. For a while.
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But you know, it'll be, it'll be nice at some point to get back
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into the regular group. But for now, I'll take heavy
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Mondays and Fridays at my house. So the commute, especially the
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Friday's after, you know, recording on Thursday nights,
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watching the Collegiate, game, watching the program game, you
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know, for your while they're watching baseball.
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It was like I'm sure you were like, this is good.
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If I stay up to midnight in a sleep in, I could still win.
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Wake up at 7:15, get in the shower and be ready to work.
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My 7:35. Let's do it.
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That's the plan man. As long as I got 20 minutes till
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I get my head wet and throw on some clothes, man.
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That's all I need brush my teeth into Major G.
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Major. So let's get to it, man.
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We're hobnob in here. Having a good time on Thursday
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night, back to know your enemy this week, the enemy the Wake
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Forest, Demon Deacons coming in to and to coming off a 17 point
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win over UVA. Their only other win this year,
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is over Campbell with losses to NC State and Clemson.
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Now, you know, a lot of interesting pieces is me and
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Brian we're doing the research this week and you know, some
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some expected things some unexpected things.
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So I'm going to click off with the one thing that I kind of
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didn't see coming, Wake Forest has one of the better rushing
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offenses in the ACC and kind of solid in the country ranking
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41st overall. 165 yards, a game at 3.88 carry or per carry with
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13 touchdowns. Now of the 13 touchdowns Grand
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good stout of the day here. 12 of them have been in the Red
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Zone, okay, which is number three in the country for Red
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Zone. Touchdowns they're led by number
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nine. Kenneth Walker who is ranking as
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the 20s number 23 rusher in the country at Ours, through four
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games with seven touchdowns. That's fourth in the country
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drinks 30th in yards per carry it. 5.7 to wake was his only P5
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offer for this to Star. You know, he continues to build
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from a strong session year of five hundred seventy nine yards.
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Now, you would think that's really good for Wake Forest.
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Well, they actually have a second really good running back
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as well. Put up some good numbers,
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Christian Bill, Smith number 26 3 star, he's local 2336 out of
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East, Forsyth High School, so far, 256 yards, rushing this
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year 4.44 rush and getting in four touchdowns now Brian, you
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know, Walker UVA game last week, you probably saw the play that
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big 75 yard run for a touchdown real game breaker.
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Bill with the pretty nice longest run this year, 31 yards.
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Now Bryan as you started looking at the tape with these two guys
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on the Russian attack with this. Kind of mesh Russian attack.
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You know what are you seeing? You know, these guys the same or
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they little different. Definitely different styles
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Walker, I'll be you talked about him.
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He's but he's busting the big runs and he is a guy that he is
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very patient in the backfield, he lets the blocks develop, he
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lets the linebackers get a fit and then Makes his move makes
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his decision of where he wants to go with the football.
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So what that ends up doing is that, you know, occasionally
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he'll have a big - play because he's in the backfield with no
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forward momentum. But when things go the way he
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wants them to, he'll get an ally, especially if those
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linebackers over-pursue. While he's dancing around in the
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back, fill all of a sudden, you got an ally and all he has to
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really do is make a safety Miss and he's Off to the Races there
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and that's what happened against UVA on that long.
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Touchdown run. So he's the guy that's kind of
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going to make things happen. Wait it out and then burst
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through the hole and try to get a big Gainer Bill Smith is a
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little different. He's going to read though that
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long mesh a little bit quicker, he's not going to kind of stand
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in the backfield. He's going to kind of get to
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where his point of attack is. And then once he reads the
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block, so he's kind of more of a one cut and kind of gets up in
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there so he's more Point in terms of not having any - plays.
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But he's not the guy that's busting the big Gamers as often
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as Walker. So kind of different styles,
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Bill Smith's the guy that's going to kind of you know, he's
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the jabber and Walkers kind of the guy that's throwing the
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Haymakers, which one worries you more against a defense, not any
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against our defense, definitely Walter.
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Okay, Walker Me more, he breaks, more tackles, and because of his
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patience, and because of some of the problems we've had with run
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fit so far. Yeah.
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And some and some safety. Tackling obviously, some of
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those didn't have our Frontline guys, but, but some of those
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things, definitely worried me. In terms of, you know, we want
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to contain some of those big runs especially after what we
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saw against another different style or po but also Carpio
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rushing attack from UNC. So definitely watch out for
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Walker. But don't sleep on Bill Smith
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either. Got it.
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Now also want to talk about you know, obviously we won't talk
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about the passing game here. Let's talk about Sam Harmon, you
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know, Hartman was a starter, his freshman year, the team finished
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seven and six last year, obviously he was unseated by
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Jamie Newman but he did play some.
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So essentially over his first two years, he was in 13 games
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where he threw for, you know, twenty eight hundred yards, 20,
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touchdowns 10 interceptions. So he's coming in with
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significant experience. Yeah, this isn't typically what
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you do. Have a redshirt sophomore with.
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That's this. Many games played now Bond so
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far. This year, 893 yards, passing 62
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percent completion, kind of solidarity, but he's only passed
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for three touchdowns with no interceptions.
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The one thing I find really interesting is he is a top 15 in
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passport completion, at 14.4, it's almost 9:00 at per attempt.
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So I'm going to kind of ask you in a sec.
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And what you, what? You're seeing, he's not putting
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up crazy numbers, but he seems to be getting them in a position
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to score. Based off the red zone.
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Rushing numbers clearly, his favorite Target is to crash
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Roberson. The six 182 Redshirt wide
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receiver consensus, three store out of North Carolina. 20
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receptions 314 yards that ranks 37th in the country.
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So pretty good 15.7 per catch. Now yard wise he is Head and
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Shoulders above. Of the other guys on the team
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but couple guys are I would say relatively close to him and you
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know, reception wise, Taylor Moran, has 15 or sections in 80
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Perry has 13 in other Moran, has more yards.
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I just want to hit on Perry real quick because if here is a six
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foot five, 212 pounds receiver When that kind of build got 194
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yards right at 15 per catch. I seen his eyes.
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I think about our secondary, I feel like beating potential
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mismatches there. That worries me a little bit.
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Now morning is from Nova out of Centerville.
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You know, five ten hundred seventy four is the leader of
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the team with two touchdown catches, 197 yards, you know.
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Brian mean you talked about it a little earlier this week but
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they I really don't use the tight ends and the running bag
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is part of the path. When attack.
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So Brian is you started breaking down.
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What do they like to do? What is, you know, the things we
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need to be looking out for where they're hitting, it's like,
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they're finding their groove in this offense.
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So I mean, I'm going to go back to it.
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The offense tends to go as the success of that long mesh RPO
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goes. So what, you know, whether it's
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the rushing game or the passing game, That's what they want to
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do. That's how they want to attack
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you and when they can have success with it, they can both
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pop off big runs when they can also pop off some big plays in
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the passing game where they get either one-on-one matchups of
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the same order. You've got safeties that are
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looking in the backfield and all of a sudden, the guy runs past
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past the safety and he gets a big gain in the passing game, so
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that's what they like to do. They're only just okay.
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Okay, when they're not running, kind of that are po when they're
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just lining up and Swinging the ball around.
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Okay. So if we can get them to where
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they can't have good success on like first and second down with
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the RPO we can get them in scenarios where they're more of
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a straight drop back team. And that's where we can take
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advantage of them because they're not great there.
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They can still hurt you but they're not as as dangerous,
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they definitely are predicated off that run a Shin to get those
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big shots down the field but the receivers, you know, obviously
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they're missing say Shore at who opted out which makes sense.
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He had a hell of a year last year, but what are you seeing
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from these? Guys, I mentioned in their
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stats. You know what sort of routes,
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what do they do? Good that we've got to be
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looking for on Saturday afternoon.
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So for Perry's the thing that they ran with him, a lot is kind
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of the the post wheel action. So they usually send either.
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Ren or Robeson on the wheel and he'll kind of run the post and
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they'll hit him on the post. They liked that play a lot.
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He's got a good body to kind of catch those balls over the
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middle of the field. He's also a stick mover with his
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size that he's a guy that will get you know a couple catches
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over the middle, doesn't mind doing that for the team.
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So occasionally you'll see them hit him over the middle when
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they're trying to get a first down and some like third and
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eight or third and ten situations there.
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Morin. He's good at High Point in the
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ball. Despite his height will go up
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and get it. Yeah, yeah.
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Just I mean he plays taller than he is I guess would be a good
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way to describe it and he's also good at stretching defenses
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laterally. So he if anybody is the guy
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that's kind of making defenses have to honor sideline, to
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sideline. He's the guy that you're looking
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for. Roberson is the do it all guy?
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He's kind of the glue guy in the Leaving core, he can hurt you
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deep. He can hurt you over the middle.
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Shifty does a good job of kind of getting himself into a good
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spot. It within Zone coverage and
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moving the sticks and the guy you didn't talk about, but the
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real highlight is is green. He is a freshman wide receiver
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for them but looks a lot like bigger than that.
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I mean, this guy looks like a guy that's been in a program for
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a couple years. He's pretty strong, looking
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receiver. They like to hit him deep up the
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seam and he's the guy that they'll throw the fade routes to
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and he's kind of coming into his own.
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He's kind of the the fourth option here but he made a couple
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big plays in the NBA game that really help them out.
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Yep, pretty how we recruited. Probably, the highest recruited
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guy on this team. I'm, he's a four-star coming out
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of Mount Airy. Didn't mention in the steps?
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When it there, obviously, you look at the tape and you see
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more out of him. Now, Brian something I did
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notice and I want to kind of ask you because you kind of hit it
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already you know you talked about not being a drop back and
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fast team in in obviously two of their four games they were down
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so they Had to drop back and pass.
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They're not good at protecting the quarterback at all.
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They are 74th in the country sacks allowed at 16 in four
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games so literally the Bottom Rung similar to be see similar
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to do that. We discussed on previous.
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Now, what are you not only seeing from the offensive line
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brine but I kind of want to ask you, what do you see from them?
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But what else do we need to do it to attack this offense to get
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them out of those? Messed around and stuff.
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Sure. So let's talk about the
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offensive line first. So with the offensive line
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they're much better pass, blocking to run blocking team
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than they are pass blocking team.
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They're not Kind of road graders.
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They're not they're not offensive line that's going to
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really move you off the bowl, get a lot of Pancakes.
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I mean, they're not that type of offensive line, but what they do
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well, is that within that RPO scheme, they get to their
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blocking responsibilities and they do a good job of staying on
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this blocking responsibilities. So weird that we're going to
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have to shed tackles, we're going to have to have good run,
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fits actually? But yeah.
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What The meshing rpm. Should we listen a lot?
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Should we try to attack them in those gaps?
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Personally, I would not want to do that, why not?
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Well, number one, if you guess wrong, on your Blitz, you could
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be out of position and not have the right leverage in the Run
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game to match that mesh and that could lead pretty much put a
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safety on an island saying, if he doesn't make the tackle.
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It's going for a big big game. And, you know, from a running
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perspective, once you start blitzing, if you don't get
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there, that's where they can hurt you.
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Because they're looking for those kind of one-on-one,
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matchups, or single, man matchups in the zone game where
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they can hit you up the seam and hit you deep down the sideline,
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on some of those those post routes.
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So I would personally be selected with my blitzes.
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I wouldn't send anything on. First down second down and third
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down if it's under eight yards because they can still use that
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RPO game and I feel like that could take advantage of the
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blitz. Now if they are in those
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scenarios where you're pretty sure they're going to be
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straight drop back, that's when I would Blitz.
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All right, so that's what that's what I would take advantage of
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that poor offensive line when they don't have that element
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where you have to kind of dual read.
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All right? So since clearly My knowledge of
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what they do on offense has to your more professional opinion,
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is wrong. What do we gotta do?
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What do we need to do to slow them down?
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So big thing again, is going to be run, fits, make sure that
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those are they that they stay disciplined, they don't over
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pursue. When you got Walker, kind of
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moving around in the backfield and waiting for things to
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develop stay where you need to be get him to the spill area.
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And then let those guys kind of clean up the trash, make them
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Drive the field. They love chunk plays.
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Now, they have the ability to drive the field.
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They run pretty well, they pass pretty well.
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Well, but they're not great when you have to make them go a long
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way without getting chunk plays. So if we can do that, that'll
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get them off the field more consistently.
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Now, the other thing we need to make sure is that our safety is
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cannot get caught with their eyes in the backfield when they
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run that long mesh RPO, because that's they really love to throw
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the ball up the seam and they can really hurt us on some deep
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balls. UVA got bit quite a few times in
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see. State got bit a couple times in
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the tape that I watched and we got to make sure that we're not
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looking in the backfield that RPO and all of a sudden you got
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Rober Center Perry running past us.
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Got it. So sounds like a lot of
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discipline this week. I am super glad that Diablo will
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have another full week of practice anticipating.
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We did not see key on too much last week but anticipating maybe
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that will have a full week of practice.
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I think he got cleared either Wednesday or Friday of last week
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before last week's game, which is why we didn't see him, okay?
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So that makes me feel a little better.
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Better, they're obviously with the comments.
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He made earlier this week, about being, you know, kind of taking
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him some time to get back to where he was before.
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Having the, the covid that makes me feel better.
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You kind of think the same with Tisdale index guy starting to
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get their feet under them, starting to get back feeling
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better. Not only just in the safeties
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and linebackers, but just the unit as a whole and feel like
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the second half last week Braun, we saw them kind of Come
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together and really start clamping down.
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And, you know, I think it made some of us come off a little
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bit. Like, okay.
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That's kind of units. We expected to see not what we
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saw. The first couple weeks when
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we're missing players. Yeah man.
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Like I said, I like a whole lot. The, the adjustments that were
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made at halftime because what they did in, the second half
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looked a lot better, I No, they mixed up, you know, a little bit
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more man into into some of the coverages or kind of showing man
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and then still dropping in the zone.
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So they were mixing up coverages a little bit more in the second
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half and I think that confused Djokovic a little bit and got
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some some - place for us that we ended up taking advantage of
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only a couple other just quick stats.
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So you so you know folks so you know Braun only converting 38.9%
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of their third Downs. So, kind of a lower number
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there. They've only had one turnover.
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All the gear 11 fumble. That's it all year.
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So they do play very clean but they've also played clean and
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multiple games and had you know, NC State game.
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We watched kind of, you know, here and it was kind of like,
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okay, they got down clearly playing Clemson.
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You know, you can play clean and still get destroyed by them.
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I mentioned the Red Zone rushing it.
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Temps, they've had 23 total Red Zone, Rush attempts 15
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touchdowns. So pretty solid number there and
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converting because they scored all 21 of them and kind of go
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back to last year that game. Which was a fun game to watch as
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a game buddy. Robbie was in town and we met.
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I met him at Hurley's and we watch the end of the game there.
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But it's one of those sort of Great Performances.
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But last year, the offense against this offense, they
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registered. As for loss so far this year
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waking allowing eight-and-a-half.
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Tackles for loss of game if tech hits that eight-and-a-half
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average, it's going to be a very long night for Sam apartment
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because he is going to have to be back passing to your point
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earlier. Because if they're not getting
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34 yards on those first downs, he's gonna have to drop back.
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Yep. And that's what we need to do.
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If we, if we can get them behind the sticks on early day.
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Downs. We're going to have success
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against them will be able to slow their offense down if we
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don't, you know, it might end up being one of those things where
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we gotta kind of outscore them a little bit.
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So we'll see how that goes. I kind of like our chances
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regardless of the way it goes because I like we do on offense
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better, which we're going to kind of get to what they do on
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defense here in a second. So I'll let you start with some
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of the stats and I'll jump in there and tell you what I saw on
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film. All right, let me look through
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some interesting stats. Here because um below average
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defense, in my opinion, the rank 57 in Total Defense, giving up
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over 450 yards a game, five point seven, nine a play, I go
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to that, I look immediately at the rushing stats because it's
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what we do, best they are 60 seconds in the country.
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They are giving up 198 rushing yards of game at four point six
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per rush. I am sure when you hear that,
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Brian, you're starting to salivate over there knowing what
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we can do with her hon. Now, I look at the ACC games
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only, I throw the Campbell game out there giving basically 32
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points per game up that's to Clemson.
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NC State UVA. Clemson me and you texted during
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that game Clemson literally turn that off.
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After the second quarter, Clemson was already at 37 NC
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State, put 45 on them and then UVA.
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Well UVA with really no offensive game plan last week
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that was pitiful to watch especially when you have you
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Here's to you played backup, quarterbacks, and none of them
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really consistently. It was just, it was such a weird
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game. Yeah, plan.
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I feel like they might have been better just maybe going out
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there and running Armstead. The whole game because at least
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he's seeking hurt you with his feet, but he can throw good
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enough. But they didn't they ended up
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you know running Stone out there that was more the passer than
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you had. Got a Thompson this more, the
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runner and then arm said that kind of does both, okay?
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And it was just kind of a miss mix match, the whole game that
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didn't really wasn't effective for them and especially wasn't
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effective. Once we kind of took some time
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at halftime and and looked at what they were doing and made
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some adjustments. Absolutely.
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All right, a couple other real quick stats for you get in deep
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On the scheme and the Personnel one big problem they have on
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defense is that the offensive is only averaging, 26 minutes, a
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game purposes. I'll possession.
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I mean I think about the way, we're running the ball in.
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If that offense, can't stay on the field, all that defense is
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going to hate us all night. 56 in the country and surrendering
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third Downs at 45.8, only eight quarter, only eight sacks
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through four games. They are forcing turnovers
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though. The six picks three fumbles.
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And, as I stated earlier with only one turnover, I + 8
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turnover margin which is pretty high up there.
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So Brian, what are we? You know, when I when I give you
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all these stats Does the statute say that they are in a
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below-average defense? And what do we have to look
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after skiing and personnel-wise that maybe makes them a blow to
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me a below-average defense. So, so let's start with this.
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I don't think they're below average, but I think they're
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rushing defense is porous and I think that's where we're going
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to take some Advantage. Especially considering that's
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our, that's our strength. So wake like The lineup in a
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four to five. So very similar front to what we
26:20
run. Play, a lot of single high
26:23
safety, usually have the other safety there in the box, or near
26:27
the line of scrimmage out on a slot receiver or flexed out
26:31
tight end or something like that occasionally, they'll drop him
26:34
into a too deep look, but that's kind of a few and far between
26:39
the thing they do best is that they tackle very well, so
26:44
they're clean on that front. They don't miss very many
26:46
tackle. Oils.
26:48
They gang tackle. Well, they don't give up a lot
26:52
of cheap yards, okay. But That doesn't mean that
26:58
there's not some holes that we can take advantage of.
27:00
Now, the one player that's going to be the problem that we're
27:03
going to focus on is going to be Boogie Basham the defensive end.
27:09
Probably one of the more balanced defensive ends in the
27:12
ACC, in terms of being good against the run and good against
27:14
the past. And he's really quick for a guy
27:18
that's to 285 pounds, he has an undetermined 40 time.
27:26
But he runs somewhere in the I think like the 4647 range and
27:33
has good quickness out the gate. So he's a guy that you want to
27:35
watch for. I mean you see him a lot of
27:37
times even when he's out of the play, chasing them down from
27:40
behind and making the tackle down feel.
27:42
So he's going to be a guy to look out for.
27:46
They play a lot of off coverage to the short or weeks out of the
27:50
the offense. So towards the boundary, usually
27:54
see cornerbacks about 8 to 10. Yards off the line of scrimmage.
27:59
So we might have some advantage to get some short routes quick
28:01
routes out to the wide receiver and let him do some stuff in
28:04
space there with them playing that far off on a consistent
28:08
basis. Now one of the things that they
28:13
did do when I was watching the you be a game is that they did a
28:17
time struggle to contain a mobile quarterback.
28:20
So when Thompson and Armstead were in the game they were able
28:24
to bust some runs especially in the first half, okay.
28:28
Looks like they adjusted a little bit in the second half to
28:30
take some of that away but I saw Armstead, get about a 25-yard
28:35
Gainer. Thompson got a big third down
28:38
Gainer They got their first led to their first touchdown.
28:43
Got a big run down the sideline for about 35 yards so they are
28:47
susceptible to some quarterback runs and if we you know, we look
28:50
back to last week was what Hendon hooker was able to do in
28:52
the Run game? That's something we might be
28:53
able to take advantage of as well.
28:55
Now let's talk about their Rush defense in general.
28:58
It's definitely weaker than the past.
29:00
Like I've been discussing here, they do a decent job of setting
29:03
the edge but they kind of struggle in the middle.
29:06
The middle is where they're susceptible.
29:08
They've got a lot. Backer that he's probably their
29:11
weakest link. I believe his number eight.
29:13
I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but a lot of
29:17
teams ran right at him. He had some struggles getting
29:21
off blocks shedding blocks. So I think we will probably run
29:27
inside outside Zone with. There's going to be those cut
29:28
back Lanes in the outside Zone where we can get up and attack
29:32
in the middle of that defense. And I think that's where we'll
29:35
get pop off some of those big plays that we've seen Khalil
29:37
Herbert and a couple times with Raheem Blackshear busting, some
29:42
big ones. In the secondary.
29:45
They play really good Zone shell, usually cover three, they
29:51
don't give up a ton of deep stuff, so we're not going to be
29:53
probably taking a bunch of shots on them.
29:55
Unless it's kind of coming off, play action, where we can get
29:58
them, kind of more one-on-one or out in space and Zone coverage,
30:03
where we can throw behind the linebackers in front of the
30:05
safeties, but you can't attack them a lot underneath that zone
30:11
but you got to be patient. Okay?
30:14
I think that's the big thing. We're going to need to do in
30:16
this game is kind of be patient with the passing game.
30:19
We're going to need it but we can't just think that when we go
30:23
to the passing game we're just going to bunt you know break off
30:26
a bunch of Chunk please, and you score some points out.
30:30
There's I think we're going to need to be patient.
30:31
Take the eight yarder, take the 12 yarder, take the five yarder.
30:37
If it's there, take it, don't don't try to force it but there
30:42
they are susceptible. Like I was Saying when in play
30:45
action on the Running Games working, that's where the chunk
30:48
plays in the passing attack came from, especially like I said,
30:52
kind of behind the linebackers and in front of the safeties.
30:55
So that's how I would attack them.
30:57
Okay, run the ball, consistently run that play action and just be
31:03
patient with the ball and don't take chances with the ball.
31:09
Nice, run. I think what you're telling us
31:13
here is with who we've got at the controls.
31:16
I don't see him forcing anything, you know, deep.
31:20
And then once you're talking about on the inside, I think
31:22
we're going to hit here in a couple minutes.
31:25
A few things that will definitely make sense, to who we
31:28
feel or some of the pivotal players.
31:32
You know, for Wake Forest is defense.
31:37
They did have to play Clemson. They Play weight force, and
31:40
weight forces first game. So maybe some of those steps.
31:44
Maybe while I'm feeling there, I look at the numbers and I feel
31:47
they're below. Average is just the stats
31:49
telling me that. But, you know, It's just one of
31:53
those things where it's like, the only team, they've really
31:56
been able to stop his camel, it doesn't count and UVA who
32:00
couldn't figure out, you know, what to do on offense versus
32:03
just saying, hey, this work, well, against them.
32:08
This is what we've got to do. That's one thing.
32:11
I don't think with our offense is going to happen.
32:14
I think we know what our identity is, and we go right
32:17
after it and by saying that, Brian, let's go to pivotal
32:20
players. Okay?
32:22
Taking over the number one spot this week.
32:26
In a shock to me when you brought this name out earlier
32:31
today. But after you just explain how
32:34
bad they are in the inside, I am L not shocked at all, taking
32:38
over the number one spot for total player this week, on
32:40
offense, broth, Hoffman, Brian care, to explain.
32:45
If we could run between the tackles, we will win this
32:48
football game. And with Brock making the calls
32:52
inside there. Brock handling a lot of the
32:54
handoff responsibilities in that four-man front and making the
33:00
adjustments with who's going to be up on the linebackers.
33:02
I trust him and what he does. And I think he's gonna going to
33:07
feast and I'm going to go ahead and add another name, just
33:11
because we're talking about offensive, lineman kind of the
33:14
the one be here would be luke to new to coming back this week and
33:18
drawing. Boogie bash them on a lot of
33:21
those, any third down play as we're dropping back, probably
33:25
gonna have have Boogie coming after him.
33:28
So, I think if he can hold up on the past Pro on those, third and
33:34
lungs. And, like I said, I think Brock
33:36
is going to be the guy that's going to help us Feast on the
33:39
running game. And I think the combination
33:41
should be, should be good for us that if those guys can do.
33:44
Well, we're probably going to have a good day.
33:48
Awesome. Now the second one not as
33:51
shocking when we were discussing just a few minutes ago about how
33:54
well UVA more mobile quarterbacks ran slipping down
33:58
one spot this week can, the pivot ended hooker?
34:04
You know what he did last week and 164 yard is the second most,
34:11
you know, rushing yards by Virginia tort Tech quarterback
34:14
since Michael Vick. So impressive, he looked very
34:19
confident out there. You look patient.
34:21
He didn't look worried. He was taking what was given to
34:24
him. He was stepping out of bounds.
34:26
When he needed to he was, he was essentially avoiding the big
34:30
shots and now even more. So for Wake Forest with him
34:35
being fully back, you know, I'm sure I'm sure they're meeting
34:39
rooms. Just tell me something.
34:41
Like, what would be said in that meeting room this week?
34:43
Is there looking at the tape with him breaking 164?
34:46
Juice what he's done black shears.
34:47
Breaking some big plays potential for the I mean what
34:51
can they be thinking? You know, what is their message?
34:56
Because it's not one, it's literally, you're going to have
34:59
to protect the entire field from a potential Rush. yeah, I mean
35:05
what they're going to what they're going to be saying is
35:07
that you know, they're going to try to I think make us earn
35:11
every yard. I think that's that's that's the
35:13
message that they would have to say there.
35:16
Don't let kind of one play Beat you because we can attack both
35:22
laterally and down the field in the rushing attack and in the
35:25
passing game I know the passing game hasn't really taken off in
35:29
terms of putting up the big numbers but with within and
35:33
hooker in there it really hurts them because he can make all the
35:36
throws and attacking different levels.
35:38
Like we were talking about You know, in the BC game.
35:42
I mean just because he was effective with his limited
35:46
number of throws and he attacked different parts of the field.
35:49
So that meant they had to honor it for four orders.
35:51
And I think we're going to see something similar this week and
35:54
that's why him to no cars there and also because of his legs
35:56
again, you know, we talked about Armstead and Thompson, having
36:01
some success against Wake Forest in the rushing game.
36:04
And I think we're going to see some more of that both from
36:07
design runs. And, you know, From areas where
36:11
hooker just sees the lane and he'll take advantage of and get
36:13
up feel for a first down. Absolutely laughing.
36:19
Brian you know we were discussing today is you were
36:22
kind of telling talking to me about you know, those short five
36:25
yards, 57-yard routes, we kind of landed that we're going to
36:30
have at least one Rider Seaver to need to be a pivotal player
36:33
and kind of the guy who's, and I think maybe we lean towards him
36:38
more than anything is Trey getting Nick last week.
36:40
Not being able to play. We won't tell you rob, Davion
36:44
Robinson. Any any give me more specifics
36:49
of why you want him? Because, you know, You felt like
36:53
he was going to be over tried. Probably, I'm guessing the
36:55
injury thing is probably what you're thinking about is, what
36:58
are they going to let trade do? As far as that show injuries?
37:02
And I think, I mean, we're not going to need probably as many
37:06
Big Shots against this team, and I think guys, like Tim, John
37:13
Robinson and James Mitchell are going to have a lot of success.
37:17
And I went with a Beyond Robinson just because we're
37:19
going to need some more output from Omar wide receiver unit
37:23
this week and I think he's going to be the guy that step up just
37:26
because of the way he when he gets the ball in his hands, he
37:29
has very good job of getting up field with his vision and kind
37:35
of getting the first downs and moving the chains for us.
37:37
So I like what he would bring against this defense kind of
37:41
working between the zones and also times when were able to
37:44
throw it out to him real quick, when those Corners are in off
37:48
and just letting him kind of get upfield and read the blog.
37:51
Locks and make a play. Got it.
37:56
All right, so there's our top three, pivotal players on
37:58
offense, proc Hoffman Hendon hooker.
38:00
Tavian Robinson. Let's flip it over to the
38:02
defense and Brawn. I feel like every week more and
38:05
more it. Me and you, and we're putting
38:08
this together, we're finding it more difficult to do, one
38:11
specific defensive player, it's always the unit and today weeks,
38:16
no difference. I mean, number one as soon as
38:19
you started talking about the mesh earlier today when we were
38:22
running through this, I'm like, it's linebackers isn't in your
38:25
like you're correct. Ding ding.
38:31
You know, big thing. Get the right fits don't over
38:35
pursue and don't get sucked in on the RPO and you put your your
38:43
safeties out on Islands. I just think that's the big
38:47
thing. If the linebackers can play
38:48
discipline in this game, we're going to have a lot of success.
38:52
I want to ask you this question. Ian.
38:54
Who started it back or Saturday Tisdale?
39:01
I wanted to get your opinion on that and obviously, again, more,
39:05
the more games to go by. As I stated earlier, the better,
39:08
these guys are in more plain shape.
39:10
So, let's hope they're back to their normal cells.
39:15
Second one a little interesting brine because as we discussed
39:18
it, my number the number 31 is the one I had to, but you pushed
39:22
me hard for saying our corners. Why is that Corners you feel?
39:27
Is it? Is it because of the some of the
39:29
stuff you're talking about of them?
39:30
They like to push is that really the big reason you feel the
39:33
corners, or shooting the ball, downfield weather outside or you
39:38
up the seam Corners are going to come in, come up big for us if
39:44
we're going to have some success to hold, that passing game down.
39:47
You know, we could easily say here the entire defensive
39:49
backfield because the safeties are going to have to make sure
39:53
that they're keeping their eyes. His discipline on that are po.
39:58
But the corners are going to have to play well because they
40:00
do take shots. They're not a team that's going
40:02
to you know throw it in front of you where you can come with make
40:05
a tackle, they're going to try to push the ball down the field
40:07
so you've got to make sure that we're not you know giving up
40:11
those chunk plays. So the quarterback play is going
40:13
to be very important across the board regardless of who we see
40:18
in there getting the significant amount of snaps, whether it's
40:21
you know Chatman, whether it's Taylor.
40:24
Or Murray obviously Connors going to be in there.
40:27
Pretty consistently at the whip. But yeah, yeah, though, all
40:31
those guys are going to be really important in this game
40:34
and hopefully they play a good one and keep those guys in front
40:37
of them, for four quarters. All right.
40:41
Now, number three on the list, the one I felt should be number
40:44
two, but sometimes Brian has the override here, like, you know,
40:50
he is the officially, he is the executive.
40:54
Technical producer of this program.
40:56
Technical, we need to keep warm but I want defensive tackles did
41:02
they play out of their mind last week against PC?
41:05
No. Did they play better than they
41:07
did against UNC? Even my Uneducated football.
41:12
Last could see that they did and Deshawn Crawford, got some run
41:17
late in that game. We really need him back.
41:19
I love Pollard to death, but Pollard still under sized in.
41:25
You know, when teams come at him, he can get pushed out of
41:29
the way. I would smaller than Basham.
41:32
Yes, he is. He's like 275 pounds.
41:36
Yeah, you talk about. Get him on a pastoral child.
41:39
He can eat a live Those guards and centers, just he's just that
41:43
quick off the line, but when it comes to the run, it struggling.
41:48
But other reasons, we put the defensive tackles here because
41:50
you did agree that they deserve to be in the top three.
41:54
Yes, they're gonna be important because we're gonna need them to
41:56
do a couple things. Number one is that they're going
41:59
to need to spill those running backs out there where the
42:05
safeties can make. Please on the edge, Connor can
42:09
make tackles on the edge. So if Can spill those
42:12
consistently and still have guys there to get the tackle.
42:15
That's going to be important. And by safety is getting
42:18
attacked, I don't mean, safety is getting the tackle eight
42:21
yards down the field. I mean safeties filling at or
42:24
near the line of scrimmage and bring them down.
42:28
That's what ideally we would want to do, is make sure that we
42:32
don't let them get to the second level before.
42:36
We've got a guy there to bring him down whether it's tackling
42:39
in between the tackles or Those defensive tackles getting the
42:44
running backs to spill outside and either run the hump or have
42:48
to make decisions before they're ready.
42:50
Because with that slut with that slow mesh, man.
42:52
They're going to give us opportunities to give to put
42:55
negative plays in their backfield but we've got to get
43:00
off the blocks. All right, coming in 2021,
43:06
everyone, Brian seagulls weekly segment of field.
43:11
Working Gap coming to YouTube where I'm going to just keep
43:16
pushing you and I think you would do it every week from a
43:19
pro and a Collegiate level. Just probably sparingly watching
43:24
the game, then fill it. Let me just write down the real
43:26
quick time of that. I'll pull it later and put it on
43:29
my bill. Your Gap segment.
43:32
The I Braun. Did you see the uniform reveal?
43:37
I did wait with the maroon helmet, all whites, all white
43:43
Ice Baby. Really, just a slim crisp.
43:47
Look kudos to them. They let a big man, Mom, let
43:50
this week kudos to rock, Hoffman was wearing the 25 in the promo.
43:58
He looks busy with the, with the light, with
44:15
the lighting going and the and all that, man.
44:18
So it was nice to see a big man, get some love there.
44:23
Yeah, absolutely. Look at the video again.
44:25
I love the way that the Hokie Stone looks in the maroon.
44:28
Because it is if you look really close as that embedded Stone,
44:30
such a cool look. And, you know, with the whites
44:34
with the maroon helmet, such a Sleek look down there where I
44:37
think I read today, they wait for sold out.
44:40
Like apparently some VT fans like went Bonkers and just
44:44
balled up maybe three to four thousand tickets.
44:48
We could be significantly a pro Hoagie crowd of the like 8,000
44:53
people there which is awesome. Who got the 25 this week Brian.
44:59
That would be a Chum re Connor who had a big game against BC in
45:03
forcing a turnover. Yeah, led the team in tackles
45:08
did really good things against the Run.
45:09
Did you know? It was a lot more effective in
45:13
the in the zone in the passing game that needs been the last
45:17
few weeks. So if he can kind of figure out
45:21
his spot in that zone, he's going to be damned impressive
45:24
because he's so good against the Run man.
45:27
He is man and you know, he's one of those guys that you feel like
45:33
if he can continue to show out, he can probably find his way to
45:36
the NFL, you know, being slightly out of position.
45:41
It kind of stinks, warm. But I feel like I look at your
45:44
Martin's body and maybe I'm just just not knowledgeable of, you
45:48
know, human anatomy. I feel like tomorrow.
45:52
Connor couldn't gain somewhere between. 10 to 15 lbs and be a
45:59
weak side. Linebacker, a true weakside
46:01
linebacker in the NFL. Am I stupid or do you think it's
46:05
true? It wouldn't be unheard of in
46:09
certain systems. So throw on a few pounds, but
46:34
yeah, if he gets thrown a few more pounds and maintain his
46:37
speed, I think we could definitely have a conversation
46:39
there. Absolutely.
46:42
All right, well, Brown will get to it, breakdowns done to the
46:46
little players revealed. Jersey uniform and 25 discussed.
46:53
What is you actually know who you might run?
46:56
You led last week, okay, you keep on here.
46:59
I will lead this week, Brian, I think is, as I texted you, a few
47:06
days ago, bond, this game, didn't worry me.
47:10
And then it worried me. And then I look more at the
47:12
stats and it doesn't worry me. I personally think in every
47:16
facet of this game at every level we are better than them.
47:20
I do them with only one turnover this year.
47:25
I think that usually numbers kept up to.
47:28
You eventually, saying, Hartman's thrown 10 picks
47:31
through 13 games, he has zero through four.
47:34
It's time for a couple turnovers from them.
47:36
And I think this might shock you Hokies are going by four
47:41
touchdowns 5200, Okay, 52:12. I think big round number out
47:50
there. Big 150 burger and Potentially
47:57
the way it had their run defense.
48:00
It would not Shock me if as it gets later in that game you peek
48:04
down and saying we don't get 400 yards.
48:08
Okay, what you think? I'm not right there with you,
48:12
but I definitely am predicting a pretty big big win for the
48:18
Hokies here. I've got 4527, okay, it pretty
48:24
close. 4527. So we're both predicting, you
48:31
know? Over three score win for the
48:35
Hokies in this game folks, and I just think it's what we do.
48:40
What they don't do is just a lot of things that go into it, all
48:44
right? So we are going to essentially
48:47
turn the Hokey stuff off, and we're going to go to our picks
48:51
for the week are ACC and college football picks as we discussed
48:57
on Saturday night, because we were having a good time brown
48:59
with outside. Few brewskies intimately.
49:02
Wonderful, smoky. Key Mountain are hell of a weak
49:05
Force. Last week, Brian.
49:06
You wouldn't six and three. I went to seven and two.
49:11
So we're going to do it again this week.
49:13
You've been on a roll lately, man, weave.
49:41
Among all right, Brian. Let's start it up here.
49:44
We'll start with some of the early games.
49:47
Let's start with NC State UNC UNC laying 15 NC State, starting
49:53
quarterback, Devon Larry out for four to eight weeks with the
49:56
fibula break. What you think here, man?
50:00
If Leary was playing, I would take NC State and the points but
50:07
yeah, I don't I don't like it with Hawk.
50:10
Been in there. I don't like it UNC coming off
50:13
an embarrassing loss and something to prove.
50:17
So I'll take you and see the cover the 15th.
50:21
Yeah, UNC coming off the loss. It's Larry was in there.
50:24
This would probably be, I'd say like seven and a half.
50:29
If he can't lie. Love 7 to 8:30 and a half
50:32
somewhere. In that range.
50:34
I would be tempted to go with NC State.
50:38
If Bailey hot, it's hot. When hadn't played, you know, a
50:41
few times already this year, essentially they know what
50:46
they're getting. If you hadn't played against
50:49
waking against us where he Wakey did a phenomenal job against us.
50:53
We essentially exposed to many essentially Gaston, Larry.
50:57
I'd be the same way UNC burned us last week them run.
51:01
They absolutely love this on fire.
51:03
That was of the games, we that we agreed on.
51:07
I think that in the Syracuse game of the only ones that
51:10
burned us. So, you know, we were five and
51:13
two in the games, we pick together, but I'm with you, I
51:16
think UNC off the embarrassing loss NC State, without their
51:20
starting. Ting.
51:21
True starting quarterback. I think, UNC roles.
51:25
I think UNC probably gets to 40. I can't see I can't see NC
51:31
State. Keeping within three scores.
51:35
Alrighty. Let's go to the real fun when
51:38
Prime, here we go. Because when I gave you this
51:41
number, a little while ago, you went like, was that low earlier
51:45
in the week? I'm like, no, it's been this all
51:47
week. You're like, Jesus, Syracuse.
51:49
Clemson, Clemson is laying 45 points.
51:58
Yikes, but hold on. Yep, last week.
52:05
They almost covered in the first half against Georgia Tech.
52:09
It is true. It is true.
52:13
They pushed it. So I don't think Clemson is
52:17
going to go crazy Clemson this week and just annihilate them.
52:23
I do think maybe last week was a statement after the after the
52:30
loss. Or after the the win against
52:33
Miami where they, they're okay, but they didn't look all
52:37
dominant. Also think to put it on, Georgia
52:41
Tech, they put it on them in Atlanta.
52:43
They recruit the hell out of Georgia.
52:44
They Don't Really re troop New York or that area whatsoever.
52:50
I'm going to take Syracuse in the points.
52:53
Okay, I think Clemson still gets to 50 but I think Syracuse.
53:01
Get a couple scores to, You Know cover my like a field called
53:05
Four Points. Yeah I don't think they have a
53:07
60 Burger again in them. So I'm going to do the same
53:11
thing and take Syracuse in the 45 points.
53:14
It's was games where we're going to be sitting there on Saturday,
53:18
keep an eye on this game, something like 14:21, like just
53:22
just stop her a couple minutes, left it, but you get leg.
53:26
We play a few drives in the first half, please.
53:31
All right, Brian next FSU. Louisville Louisville is laying
53:37
four and a half points to FSU coming off the massive Victory.
53:42
Let me look real quick here. This game is going to be at
53:47
Louisville. High knew what you think from at
53:52
Louisville, High Noon Louisville.
53:58
Look straight line makers. Think this game kind of scoring
54:11
is going to be. Oh, man.
54:16
This is, this is one that I've been like, thinking about, since
54:20
we started putting this thing together, man.
54:24
Because I don't, Know what Louisville team to expect and I
54:28
don't know what FSU team to expect and that's kind of been
54:31
the theme of the last couple weeks man.
54:36
I don't think Louisville is going to play as bad offensive
54:38
ly in back-to-back weeks as they as they did last week.
54:42
So I'm going to take Louisville to cover.
54:46
The four and a half Louisville is going to cover the four and a
54:49
half. Yeah.
54:51
These teams are like, you know, just you know, there's good
54:58
stuff rennicks. They see.
55:01
They do things. That make no Godly sense.
55:05
You think they're both terrible, then they, you know, Louisville
55:09
freaking gets in a rock fight with Notre, Dame himself been
55:12
which no one saw coming. Me and then, you know,
55:16
essentially FSU plays, it's the first the best first half,
55:20
probably in the last two years down there hanging, you know,
55:23
essentially hand enough points to hang on versus you and see.
55:32
I think FS you found something last week, offensive ly, I think
55:36
they started finding it at Notre Dame with the new quarterback,
55:43
His Name Escapes me right now. So I'm going to pull it up real
55:46
quick because I want to make sure I'm looking at the right
55:49
guy here after Ting after Ting after Ting effort in Jordan
55:55
tries. I think they found something in
55:57
Jordan Travis. To where?
56:01
I think it will be a high scoring game that 61 number does
56:05
not look appealing to me at all. I feel like you've got to be on
56:09
the over in that game but I'm going to take FS U Braun.
56:13
I think FSU wins this game outright as well.
56:19
Okay, okay and you know what I can't dispute that because I
56:26
could have easily moved in that same direction.
56:30
But but if you call me at 3:00 Curtis you were wrong about this
56:34
game and you know yeah great confidence with that.
56:40
Pick the confidence. In this pic of all the games
56:46
were picking. I think this one might be the
56:48
lowest might be the lowest of the ones were picking.
56:54
All right, Braun next pit Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Lane 10.
56:59
A half points, Notre Dame coming off, you know, against one of
57:03
the worst defense has known the ACC, but the country only
57:08
putting up 12 points goes against that pit defense where
57:11
it appears the kidney. Picket things going to be on
57:15
like a last second thing. We're all right, if he's playing
57:19
he really hasn't practiced. I'm gonna I think Notre Dame is
57:25
going to win this game, but I do think that is going to make the
57:29
cover. I think pits got a good enough
57:32
defense. I think they will try to run the
57:35
clock, they'll try to make this like a 21:17 game and try to
57:40
hope they can. Hold on to it.
57:44
You know, the confidence in this one either because, you know,
57:47
it's lower because Notre Dame, could be like, listen.
57:49
We're better than this even though it's a good defense.
57:52
We can score on them. But I can't see laying 10 and a
57:56
half, not the way Notre Dame is playing.
58:01
The last couple weeks. Okay I'm going in the other
58:06
direction. All right I don't similar to
58:10
Louisville I don't see Notre Dame putting up another, nothing
58:13
Burger in a row. They've been a consistently up
58:17
and down team with book running this offense, the last couple
58:22
years and I think that's going to continue and last week was
58:26
kind of a Down week and I think you're going to see a more
58:29
consistent Italy. Consistent offense from Notre
58:33
Dame and if they if they can be consistent on offense, they're
58:36
going to win and I think they'll win by maybe 13.
58:40
It's going to be close to probably like a backdoor cover
58:43
field goal late. Kind of put it out of reach.
58:47
All right, I'm watching SportsCenter.
58:50
Did you see the exhibit? Banger, Jones run.
58:52
I saw the Daniel Jones run. We got like 23 miles an hour
58:56
which is crazy. SportsCenter.
59:01
I think I sent this to you. Did you see the Jon Ron Schott
59:05
the absolute tank? Hold on.
59:08
This is live folks. Brian needs to see this for the
59:12
simple fact of John Reynolds number one golf player in the
59:14
world and how he hit this shot. Makes hacks like me, feel great.
59:23
So I'm going to be sending this while I set up the next one
59:26
Brian and into you email, while we set our Georgia Tech ball
59:31
Austin College. Um, I'm trying to find why this
59:36
happens. Tell me when you see it, it's
59:39
coming. Here we go.
59:43
We're already agreeing on this one.
59:44
I know. Georgia Tech, Boston College.
59:48
Boston College has Lane three and a half.
59:52
Everybody currently that's been listening this podcast over the
59:54
last few weeks, knows, bronze, feeling on how Georgia Tech has
59:57
treated him. Just saying
1:00:16
Just chunked it. All right, BC, lion
1:00:19
three-and-a-half against Georgia Tech.
1:00:22
We saw BC last week. They are a good competent team.
1:00:26
Georgia, Tech is not give me DC. And in, Somebody explain why
1:00:31
this line is three and a half to me.
1:00:34
I was taking this at eight and a half or nine, so definitely give
1:00:38
it to me three and a half. Let me get on the bookmakers and
1:00:45
how much do I get? Hunter to win like three three
1:01:07
and a half. Yeah maybe slutting of course
1:01:11
but you know I Brian. Let's go.
1:01:14
Saturday night down in Miami UVA.
1:01:17
Miami Miami is laying 12 and a half as of yesterday or today I
1:01:25
believe the ginger Tebow still not clear to confront concussion
1:01:29
protocol and in all, you know, of course we're going to give
1:01:33
that to Engraved are the primary rivals.
1:01:37
It's get by we're going on on those, what 14 days.
1:01:40
Now, since that happened, That's that's not a good sign.
1:01:45
We're getting into. Is this a Sidney Crosby
1:01:48
situation? Good good.
1:01:50
Good way to put it. Yep.
1:01:54
Hopefully not for them because regardless of how we feel about
1:01:57
UVA, I won't you be as best. I want to beat them at their
1:02:00
best have fun. So, you know, best wishes him to
1:02:04
get back on the field. I hope it's not a Sidney Crosby
1:02:06
situation where he's out for, you know, several months and
1:02:10
not, you know, a couple weeks or three or four Weeks we or
1:02:13
whatever it may be. So and given the fact that he's
1:02:17
not playing and the cluster, fuck us all against Wake Forest
1:02:21
with three different, quarterbacks running three
1:02:23
different systems and none of them running it consistently
1:02:27
enough to really make a case for an offense.
1:02:30
I'm going to take Miami and the points or to cover the 12 and a
1:02:34
half. Mommy at 12 and a half and we
1:02:37
put that on here. Yeah, to your point.
1:02:40
You don't any player whatsoever? Her to be out like that other
1:02:44
Rivals are not 12. That's a big number because, you
1:02:49
know, If? All right, we discussed UVA
1:02:57
before the season started. We we mean you got on.
1:03:00
Both of different are going to have a pretty good defense.
1:03:02
They're going to have to win some low-scoring games. that
1:03:06
defense is just looking bad and I don't know if it's the
1:03:09
mentality thing with the covid situations or if it's just, you
1:03:14
know, Not having to. Now think about not having Bryce
1:03:18
all where the back half last year.
1:03:19
They didn't have to think about that in so many other things.
1:03:26
I didn't expect it, you know, you told me, they lost the
1:03:28
weight Force, I'd be like, yeah, they probably did they, you know
1:03:32
what? They probably Lost Tomb, 23:17.
1:03:36
You tell me, they lose about 40. And then we see the Duke game,
1:03:41
where Duke scored on Duke, had numerous chances to put that
1:03:43
many points up on. You know, and it's just one of
1:03:48
those things where it's like, I'm with you Brian.
1:03:52
I've got to like 12 and a half because the offense involves
1:03:55
score points and the way Miami played last week off that loss
1:04:00
was very impressive. And as I heard someone say this
1:04:05
week and they don't think that's Manny Diaz.
1:04:07
They think that's Tierra King. They think that's having a guy
1:04:10
like him in that locker room that said, Hey listen, put last
1:04:14
week out of your mind. We In the game, we need to go
1:04:16
keep winning so Miami. Lay the 12 and a half.
1:04:25
I have seen Miami getting. He's I see mommy getting the
1:04:28
30-plus and I can't see view ABA.
1:04:33
If they get to 17 or 21, it will be a miracle.
1:04:40
All right, Brian. Let's go.
1:04:42
Like I said, I think it's going to be like I said without ginger
1:04:45
tea. That's going to be a struggle.
1:04:48
All right, let's go out of conference to Big matchups.
1:04:51
This weekend, Big Ten football is back which, you know, for
1:04:57
college football World, whether you hate the Big Ten, love the
1:05:01
Big Ten respect it. It's also, we're going to see
1:05:03
more teams playing more games on Saturday in the two matches were
1:05:09
looking at here. Once from the Big 12, once in
1:05:11
the Big Ten, let's start with the big 12 matchup.
1:05:16
Oklahoma State, Iowa State, this is in Stillwater.
1:05:20
Number 6, Oklahoma state 17, Iowa State, Oklahoma State
1:05:25
undefeated at 3 & 0, laying, three and a half.
1:05:30
Brian, what are you feeling? Actually take that back.
1:05:34
Ron, you led the last one. So I'm gonna go with this one.
1:05:38
I'll take this. Tell me what you got as much as
1:05:43
I like. I think as good as Iowa is on
1:05:59
defense, you know, I don't, I think eventually you're not
1:06:06
going to be able to hold him down the other big one.
1:06:10
And this is big for me, Oklahoma State in their first three games
1:06:14
where they've been playing sort of a Kind of Muddy ball.
1:06:18
Not what you expect from Oregon need to use expect my gummy,
1:06:20
they're tossing it they're scoring points the bill without
1:06:23
their first string quarterback Spencer standards returns this
1:06:26
week. I think that three and a half
1:06:29
way too low. I think he's going to come back.
1:06:32
I think they're going to be more Dynamic, passing the ball, which
1:06:34
is going to open up cubed, harbored some lames, not a legal
1:06:38
limit bet, but you can put quite a bit on it.
1:06:40
Give me Oklahoma State, lay the three and a half.
1:06:45
I'm right there with you buddy. I like what I would stay does on
1:06:51
defense, but I just think that as you said kind of getting back
1:06:57
on the right track on offense, I think it's going to be big for
1:06:59
Oklahoma State. I think they're going to be able
1:07:01
to score enough points. I think it's going to be kind of
1:07:04
like a 7 to 10 point victory for Okie state.
1:07:11
So yeah, give me the, give me up.
1:07:12
Estate to cover the three and a half.
1:07:14
All right, we're on the same one there and then Bryan Saturday
1:07:19
night. We go to Minnesota.
1:07:25
Minnesota. Michigan, Minnesota.
1:07:27
Michigan at Minnesota, Michigan. The road favorite laying three
1:07:33
now. Brian, there has been some
1:07:35
discussion this week that potentially on Saturday night.
1:07:44
There are, potentially, he's going to be snow showers.
1:07:47
Hello. It's right now, it's kind of
1:07:52
saying they're showing Friday, but people are saying it could
1:07:55
be held off, either way, it's going to be cold on Saturday
1:07:58
night game time took looks to be around 28 degrees.
1:08:06
So he gonna be cold. It will be chilly.
1:08:09
Chilly, what are you thinking? This Minnesota keeps the stuff
1:08:17
going on. Crash back to Earth Bateman came
1:08:21
back. They got their quarterback.
1:08:24
What do you think? I know we're not really.
1:09:02
And I think this is a pretty important game for them, and I
1:09:06
think it's going to be one of those down-to-the-wire games,
1:09:10
but I think, I think, I think Minnesota is going to end up
1:09:13
probably pulling the outright Victory here.
1:09:17
All right, well, I'm going to have to disagree with you on
1:09:23
that, okay? And Jim Harbaugh has definitely
1:09:32
lost. I just saw it here in a while
1:09:34
ago. Two and twelve verses like top
1:09:36
15 teams or top 20 teams. So he's not been good since he
1:09:41
essentially came back to the college game but it's just one
1:09:45
of those things where I'm sitting here and it's just like
1:09:52
I can't put my finger on it but it's just I think they started
1:09:57
getting over the hump this year. Maybe it's because he coached by
1:10:01
Niners to a Super Bowl, you know, almost a decade ago now,
1:10:07
which is pretty wild. But they've not been a bad team
1:10:11
since they've been back, you know, like six of the top, 25
1:10:16
losses are to Ohio State. All right, so you take that
1:10:20
equation, the record done. Look as bad as it should.
1:10:23
So I'll take Michigan in this one.
1:10:25
Got to disagree on some stuff here and there, right?
1:10:28
Brian, All right, man. Well
1:11:04
away from home but I will have everything.
1:11:07
Ready to go. For the game, half-smoked will
1:11:10
travel, Ron Siegel? Yes, I heard anything breaking
1:11:16
other than Daniel Jones. 23 mile an hour run.
1:11:32
Somebody probably started and there's people cursing on The
1:11:35
Daily fantasy things. Just cursing there.
1:11:37
Their heads off. Likewise Wayne gulman, the lead
1:11:41
running back right now. Wow.
1:11:44
Wow, wow. It's football, man.
1:11:47
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1:11:51
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