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Mac & Bone Show - Billy Embody Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Our next guest is one of the hosts of the
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  Speaker 1: All Access AMACC podcast. He also covers SMU in Dallas
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  Speaker 1: for on three. And, of course, they're one of the
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  Speaker 1: favorites in the league this year. He is Billy Embody,
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  Speaker 1: and he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show. Billy,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, man. What's going on? How
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Doing well, guys. Thanks so much for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, and thank you for breaking up the Bryce
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  Speaker 1: Young argument today, the Tuesday edition.
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  Speaker 3: You've never been needed more in this spot.
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  Speaker 2: I do what I can.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think about the Tar Heels' win on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure, a team not too far away from you
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  Speaker 1: in TCU that you probably got some knowledge of, but
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  Speaker 1: the Tar Heels get that win. I mean, we're all
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  Speaker 1: sitting here. It wasn't just the national media. that was
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  Speaker 1: shocked by that. I mean, most of us locally were
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  Speaker 1: not expecting Carolina to win that game and be the
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  Speaker 1: team that was not the mistake-laden team. What should we
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  Speaker 1: think about this UNC team and Bill Belichick after that win?
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  Speaker 2: I think one that just shows that game in Ireland
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  Speaker 2: is something everybody should turn down. That game just gets
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  Speaker 2: wild every year and somebody ends up on the wrong
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  Speaker 2: side of it and it kind of derails their season.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's TCU this year, but no, I think watching
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  Speaker 2: Bobby Petrino manage that offense with Billy Edwards was a
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  Speaker 2: really big step in the right direction just for them.
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  Speaker 2: I know it wasn't, It wasn't, you know, explosive and
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  Speaker 2: fireworks and things of that nature. But you could tell
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  Speaker 2: they were managing the game and taking advantage of TCU's
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  Speaker 2: mistakes and their miscues as far as managing the game,
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  Speaker 2: going for it on all those fourth downs. They should
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  Speaker 2: have taken the points, obviously, looking back on it. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for UNC to kind of play the mature
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  Speaker 2: football game, that was probably the unexpected side of this.
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  Speaker 2: I thought maybe it would be kind of a wild
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  Speaker 2: game if it would have ended up with UNC getting
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  Speaker 2: the win, but you could tell they had a really
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  Speaker 2: good plan going in defensively to adjust for what TCU
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  Speaker 2: was going to do into that second, third, and fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: They made those adjustments. and they were able to take
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  Speaker 2: advantage of it and ride that to a win. I
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  Speaker 2: think the job for Bill Belichick really just kind of
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  Speaker 2: came down to him blocking out all the things going
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  Speaker 2: on around him. Maybe that's all those years of experience,
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  Speaker 2: but to have your guys be able to settle in
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  Speaker 2: and play the brand of football they did for the
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  Speaker 2: final three quarters said a lot about the resolve, and
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  Speaker 2: I thought that last year– North Carolina just came up
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  Speaker 2: on the wrong end of things with it, with a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games that you, you, you thought they had
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  Speaker 2: and they ended up not. And, um, that's just kind
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  Speaker 2: of how the cookie crumbles sometimes, but, uh, for them
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  Speaker 2: to get that win, it was really big for the ACC.
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  Speaker 2: Number one, big for the big for that program to,
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  Speaker 2: to kind of have something to, to show for some
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  Speaker 2: of the work and changes being put in place. And
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  Speaker 2: we'll see where it takes them. Their schedule is, is, is, uh,
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  Speaker 2: It was a pretty tough road, but I think that
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  Speaker 2: was a really good just kind of feet wet. You
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  Speaker 2: get a bye week now, and you can kind of
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  Speaker 2: reset from there.
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  Speaker 3: Billy, what result was more surprising to you, the one
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about where UNC gets a win or the
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  Speaker 3: fact that NC State came out and looked the way
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  Speaker 3: that they did? Not that they lost, but how bad
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  Speaker 3: they looked in defeat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was NC State. That was really disappointing, kind
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  Speaker 2: of looking back on the offseason they had. You thought, okay, C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey's back, obviously a big piece there. They brought in
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  Speaker 2: a couple pieces on the offensive line to shore that up.
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  Speaker 2: They got Duke Scott back. JoJo Trader, maybe a fresh
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  Speaker 2: start from Miami. He turns things around. Vander Ploeg coming
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  Speaker 2: in as a tight end that you've got to watch
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  Speaker 2: in this offense. They'll figure it out, right? It's C.J. Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe they will. That was not on the radar.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a sign that in terms of
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  Speaker 2: just matchup-wise, North Carolina State's going to have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of problems creating separation this year because there was none
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  Speaker 2: of that for C.J. Bailey's targets. C.J. Bailey kind of
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  Speaker 2: looked timid from the start. It was really strange. And
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  Speaker 2: that was a game that you could have avoided being
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  Speaker 2: down certainly 17-0 at half by not throwing interception, but
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  Speaker 2: you could have been down 10-0, and maybe you managed
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  Speaker 2: that and tried to figure out a way to reset,
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  Speaker 2: but instead you had to play from behind and kind
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  Speaker 2: of going after it in a different way. So I
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  Speaker 2: just thought the whole day for NC State was really
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  Speaker 2: a major red flag, and you try not to overreact
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  Speaker 2: for Week 0 stuff, but it just seemed like their
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  Speaker 2: whole team struggled on the offensive side, in particular with
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  Speaker 2: team speed. I thought the defense played well enough to win.
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  Speaker 2: They were putting some spots early that you were kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, okay, the interception, that really put them on
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  Speaker 2: a short field, and Virginia was able to take advantage
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  Speaker 2: of it. But until they broke with that 23-play drive
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  Speaker 2: in the late third quarter into the fourth, they played
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  Speaker 2: well enough to win. They just got no help from
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  Speaker 2: the offense. I do think it's a red flag. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a red flag as far as evaluation and
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  Speaker 2: money spent as far as the skill positions around C.J. Bailey.
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  Speaker 2: And they've been, what, basically 8-4 for a decade. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they get to that this year.
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  Speaker 2: But again, try not to overreact after Week 0. But
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  Speaker 2: that was a really poor showing.
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  Speaker 1: It does make you wonder if they spent a ton
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  Speaker 1: of money to keep Bailey, how much did they have elsewhere?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To bring in those replacements at weapons. Cause they lost
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  Speaker 1: some big money, a bunch of big money weapons. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Billy and body is with us. Uh, all access AM
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  Speaker 1: ACC podcast. Now you cover SMU for on three. So
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  Speaker 1: there's certainly in the mix to be the answer to
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  Speaker 1: this question, but I'll ask you, who do you think
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  Speaker 1: will be the second best team in the ACC when
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  Speaker 1: it's all said and done SMU Louisville, Clemson, or the
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  Speaker 1: most named ones in the summer? I think we got
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  Speaker 1: to throw Virginia into that mix now. Like, Who would
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  Speaker 1: be your guess for No. 2 in the ACC this year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, SMU, Virginia, Louisville. I'm still going to pick SMU
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  Speaker 2: at this point. They've got, obviously, a really tough test
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  Speaker 2: in Week 1 and Week 3 with going on the
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  Speaker 2: road at Florida State and then having to face Louisville
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  Speaker 2: on the road. So we'll learn a lot about them
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  Speaker 2: early on. And then they do face Virginia. I think Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: their schedule, number one, sets up pretty well for them.
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  Speaker 2: I think they got SMU, and then I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they really have too much else on there. They will
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  Speaker 2: have to go on the road and beat Virginia Tech
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  Speaker 2: and Blacksburg, which I don't think has happened in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: So they've got to overcome some things there, but their
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  Speaker 2: schedule sets up very favorably there. If you're Virginia now,
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  Speaker 2: you're feeling like you're in the driver's seat to do
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  Speaker 2: something special and return to Charlotte and keep things going.
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  Speaker 2: They're right there in the mix. Bo Pribula, the one
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  Speaker 2: thing to watch is health. If they're going to run
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  Speaker 2: him like that, they better have the training staff on call.
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  Speaker 2: He obviously did get hurt at Missouri last year, but
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  Speaker 2: he's got maybe a run game that they can feature
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more. in the future games and kind
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  Speaker 2: of develop that with that offensive line. I thought the
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  Speaker 2: run game was fine. I didn't think it was something that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, overly got the job done. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were also so efficient offensively, so you kind of
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  Speaker 2: have to weigh that against it a little bit because
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  Speaker 2: 9 of 11 is pretty sweet for 150-something yards and
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  Speaker 2: a big play touchdown. So they were really just ready
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  Speaker 2: to go as a team. I thought that was very
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  Speaker 2: impressive work. by Tony Elliott and, and his staff. And,
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  Speaker 2: and they've got a lot of, um, you know, experienced
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  Speaker 2: offensive lightning, uh, uh, experienced offensive light, uh, linemen that, uh,
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  Speaker 2: You can kind of lean on in this era where
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  Speaker 2: there's so many changes and so many different faces coming
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  Speaker 2: in and out. You have to like what Virginia has
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  Speaker 2: put forward as far as their resume early, early to
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  Speaker 2: be that number two team in the ACC after losing
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  Speaker 2: some key difference makers off of that team that made
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  Speaker 2: the title game last year.
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  Speaker 3: Billy, is there any path where Miami wouldn't win the ACC?
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  Speaker 3: Is there anything you see there where you think, well,
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  Speaker 3: if this happens, this happens, maybe it's not Miami's conference,
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  Speaker 3: or is this pretty much 100% Miami's year on the ACC?
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  Speaker 2: Miami still has a schedule that they can find themselves
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  Speaker 2: later in the year losing a couple games because Let's
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  Speaker 2: be real. Miami had an incredible run to the national
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  Speaker 2: championship last year, but that's still what they do in
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  Speaker 2: the regular season until proven otherwise is lose a couple
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  Speaker 2: games that they shouldn't. And so they've got Pitt. They've
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  Speaker 2: got Florida State rivalry game. which I'm not saying I'm
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  Speaker 2: picking Florida State or anything, but you have those types
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  Speaker 2: of games that are on the schedule that could throw
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  Speaker 2: a wrench in things. But their schedule is very gettable. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I have them in Charlotte. I have them
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  Speaker 2: breaking through and returning to the ACC title game for
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  Speaker 2: the first time in a long time. But they still
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of different pieces on that defensive line now.
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  Speaker 2: different pieces on the offensive line, and a new quarterback
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  Speaker 2: in Darian Mensah who's very different from Carson Beck. So
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  Speaker 2: they will be fine, I think, because of their schedule
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  Speaker 2: early on, kind of maybe adjusting to those changes, those
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  Speaker 2: new faces, all of those changes. But they... still have
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  Speaker 2: to prove that they can go through a regular season
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  Speaker 2: without losing two games, frankly, that they shouldn't. And they
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  Speaker 2: do face Notre Dame, which doesn't impact them on the
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  Speaker 2: ACC side of things, but it sure as heck can
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  Speaker 2: impact them making the college football playoff and kind of
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  Speaker 2: holding up that brand for, for the ACC. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a world. I like them to make it to Charlotte.
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  Speaker 2: I think their schedule is very favorable, but it's they
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  Speaker 2: still got to prove it.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff, Billy. We appreciate everybody. Check out the all
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  Speaker 1: access AM podcast, Billy, one of the hosts of that
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  Speaker 1: podcast and his SMU coverage for, for on three sports.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Billy. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.