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The New Age of Islamophobia: The Rise of The Shia 👻 · After Maghrib 🌙

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Salaam Alaikum, welcome back to Arthur Mughalib.
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doing every week. If you've been with us on the
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last couple of months, you'll know that we have been
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commemorating, of course, the story of Imam Hussein Ali
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Salaam, what took place on the day of Ashura and everything
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that took place after it and how it really relates to us in
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today's day and age. And kind of on a similar note,
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today we're going to be talking about the life, the legacy, and
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of course the martyrdom of none other than our beloved Prophet
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Muhammad, Sallallahu alaihi wasallam khatim nabein Rasallah
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Muhammad. And this is of course, a
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discussion which needs no backlog.
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We know about his martyrdom, his shahada, and if it's not
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something you've read up on, you can see previous episodes on
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after Magadib and catch up on that historical analysis.
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What we are going to do though, is talk about how his perfected
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and purified legacy is now seen in today's day and age.
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Living in the West, we all live in a secularized world.
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We live in a world which is polarized.
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And as a result of that, we are now in a put in positions where
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at times we have to defend our faith and kind of understand how
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to approach these things as Muslims, but of course,
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particularly as Shia Muslims. I can't do this conversation
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alone, never have, never will. Maybe I have said Islam, Allah
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Habibi say it. Condolences to you on the
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shahada of Rasulullah Muhammad Sallallahu.
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Muhammad Ali Muhammad, yes indeed.
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And it's it's a very sad time of year when we remember the very
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man who gave us Islam, who bought Islam to us and who rank
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light to a misguided Walt, you know, gave light to the world of
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Jahili and Al Khandelah. We see the fruits of it today.
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We look around and we see the Adams playing in the minarets.
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The mosques are full of people bowing down to do to all last
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final with Allah. So those are a lot to speak
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about and be grateful for and remember during these nights of
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his shahada. And of course, in your intro,
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you know, you were speaking about there's a time where we
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defend, we may have to defend ourselves as Muslims.
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I would say we need to be able to know how to defend Rasool
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Allah. Of course.
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Many times there are attacks that come not just to the Muslim
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world supplies in particular. Now there's a rise of it to the
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Shia who people come and claim that we have no reverence or no
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respect or we don't hold the the prophet in a high status.
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That and I think it's a time where a Shia especially we say
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we hold on to the pristine teachings of the very man
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himself, Rasul Allah Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam.
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So there's a lot we need to learn.
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And I realized something, especially leading up to these
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days of his shahada is that it may sound scary to mention on
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the podcast, but I feel like there there isn't much interest,
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God forbid, but there isn't much interest to know about the
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Sierra of Rasulallah as much as other prominent figures in the
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family of the albeit Alayam Salaam.
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And this is something that's a reminder to each and every
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single one of us that's important.
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Absolutely, there is a lot of work out there in terms of the
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Sierra from Books of Arsenal and of course from an academic point
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of view, as Shia we don't have as much when it comes to art
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works as a school of thought. However, there are really good
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works in English. For example, Idolize Jaffa.
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Subhani has a great book on the life of the of the Holy Prophet.
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Go and check it out if you haven't already guys.
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But it kind of goes through the the biography of the Holy
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Prophet and it doesn't overlook some of the overlooked parts
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which we find in the other Mozaheb and kind of key elements
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of his biography, which I think playing important and an
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imperative role in understanding his will, his ambition, his
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desire for what this religion was to look like after his
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Shahada, his death. Ultimately, of course, in the
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Holy Quran, our last panel to Allah mentions that should
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Russell Allah, should the prophet be killed or die if he
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were to die will be killed rather the oh in this I I read
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earlier today and credit to I think no Islamic education who
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made an incredible post on this on Instagram.
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The use of the O in that verse is specific to rather than for
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example, if he were to die or be killed, it should be if he were
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to die. No, rather he were to be killed.
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And of course, this is one of many reference points that we
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use. For example, also, you know,
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books within the Shiite school of thought.
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We have a hadith from the Imams I named Salaam who say that all
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of us were martyred. He says all of us at the debate.
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Of course, the head of the family is the Holy Prophet
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Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family.
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And it goes without saying as well that there are so many
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other important points to reference.
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For example, one of the companions after the death of
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the Holy Prophet said he would swear upon his own life that the
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Prophet was martyred. And he specifically points to
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this, say, let me ask you a question.
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We, of course, now live in a day and age where I would argue
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racism is completely normalized. OK.
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So for example, if you look at the White House, you look at
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Trump's policy on immigrants coming into the UK or into the
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US rather. Since his second term has
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started, of course, we know his policies.
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If I ask you, for example, 2016, what was Trump's slogans?
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Do you remember? Lock her up.
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Make America great again. No, no, like what was his key
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policies? Key policies.
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Immigration, immigrations. OK, fine.
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So like Muslim ban, right? Making America number one for
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business and economy. Build a wall, Muslim ban, All of
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that sucks. Yeah, all of that.
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I remember that since his the start of his second term, Trump
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has allowed just over 6000 immigrants into the US, 6695 or
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something along those lines. Yeah.
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Of which three of them were not white immigrants.
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So all of them were white S Africans.
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Three of them were Afghans. OK.
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And if you imagine, like, look at the UK right now, the three
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countries which have the most national, all the three
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nationalities which arrived to the UK the most on boats are
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Iranian, Iraqi and Syrian, if I'm not mistaken.
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And I just want to ask you this because we've now, of course,
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lived in a day and age and we've grown up in a post 911 era.
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Muslims have been criminalised. The name of the Holy Prophet has
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been damaged, tarnished just now in mainstream pop culture and
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media and so on. How does it make you feel as
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someone who goes out there? You're wearing La Bakeia saying
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on your chest, but you know, you go to, for example, the autobahy
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in March in London or you go to the supermarket and you're
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wearing, you know, Islamic dress codes and so on.
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How does it make you feel as a Muslim living in a society where
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Muslims generally the labour label of Islam is either
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tolerated by some or despised by others?
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Yeah, I need to ask, how does it make me feel?
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Well, on one level you feel sad that we live in the state of
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affairs where we have, for example, misrepresentation of
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who Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam is a
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misrepresentation of, sorry, a misrepresentation of what Sharia
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law is, for example. This is a big word that's in the
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news and online, especially in the US right now, given all the
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politics that's happening there. By living here in the UK and
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coming across different communities, going to different
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areas of London, for example, You do, you do find differences
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Sometimes you may go to a very diverse area.
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Let's say you've gone to Brixton for example.
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Yeah, you feel, you feel fine, you feel all right.
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But for example, drive down an hour from central London towards
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Bex Bexley, for example, you feel out of place, people
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staring at you, people looking at you in a specific way.
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And I don't think they do on purpose.
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I just feel like they feel like, OK, what's he doing in our area?
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Not that they don't want you here, but they have.
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I feel like maybe there's a threat, a threat to them, but
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not because this is how they were raised, I would say.
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I would think it's what they're consuming that's allowing them
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to think in such a way. But if I can be real how it
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makes me feel, I don't really care.
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OK. I can walk the streets and well,
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whether people like me or hate me for being Muslim or looking
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Arab or growing a beard or wearing the Baker Hussein
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Alhamdulillah Al Kulihant, whether it's London or Jamaica.
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OK, so this word Sharia law is highly, highly disputed.
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It's a super dividing and polarizing word.
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In one sentence, tell me what is Sharia law?
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You know, if I ask you a question, how many days are
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there in the week, can you say yes or no?
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No. You can't.
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So it's not a simple answer, but if, if, if I can just simplify
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it for those listening. Even Muslims as well, I think
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many Muslims are scared of that term as well.
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Sharia, I know I've come across people don't say Sharia I know
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because some people can get scared or they feel threatened
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by it. But Sharia I know is what is
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just telling you basically, you know, be good with your
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neighbors, honestly respect your parents, don't eat this food,
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stay away from Haram. You know, don't go after
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interest, don't go after adultery, don't drink this,
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don't eat swine. Don't.
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That's what it is yanny. That's pretty much what it is,
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is the laws and the commands of Allah Subhanahu attallah.
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And it's not something to be implemented or forced on
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non-Muslims. So for someone to be threatened
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by the word Sharia law, I would say there's only a few elements
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that threatens them, which is what the world of pornography.
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If if the UK right now was to implement Sharia law, you have
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to shut down all the pornography sites.
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You have to shut down all the liquor and wine aisles and
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alcohol aisles and Tesco and has done and all that of licences
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and what is it? You have to reduce or remove
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completely the interest from every single loan that the banks
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offer. This is what they're scared of
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because they want you to gamble. They want you busy to be
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watching the other world. They want you to be.
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So in an ideal world, would you like Sharia law to be invented?
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You would of course, right? Do you not feel that if I I as a
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neighbor of yours, a non-muslim and this this man of of a Muslim
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origin has come to move in next door to me and I see him on a
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podcast saying I would love Sharia law.
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Man, I'm sick of seeing Beck shops and seeing drunk guys
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walking around my street. If Sharia Alo was to come to the
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UKI don't think you will find poverty the way you see it
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today. That's one.
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OK, OK. If Sharia Alo was to come to the
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UK, you know all the hospital beds that are taken over by all
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the drunks and drug addicts and everything and then HS, what's
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the pressure coming from? They talk about oh, we don't
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have XYZ. But I could easily, just to play
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devil's advocate, I could easily combat that by saying that look
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at healthcare systems in Muslim countries.
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Look at, I would argue, for example, you mentioned
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pornography. Yeah, immorality.
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Look at the flipping the levels of pornography uses in these
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countries, Pakistan, parts of India, Saudi Arabia, off the
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charts. Like those are the number even
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for example, things, other things which are illicit within
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the without getting into too much detail, you know, for
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example, the LGBTQ movement is highest in some areas of South
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Asia or the Middle East. So I would argue that Sharia law
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as a term is of course criminalised to some degree.
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It's it's, it's, it's used in such a way to make people feel
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threatened. If I was to answer in my humble
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opinion in one sentence what Sharia law is, I would say
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Sharia law is a code of conduct which is expected upon Muslims
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and a set of laws or regulations to govern how we follow matters
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like worship, ethics, morality, interpersonal contact and
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conduct, things like that. So for example, I as a Muslim,
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what are the laws I have when I, I don't know, want to take a
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loan from the bank? Do I have to pay it back?
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How fast do I pay it back? Do I pay interest?
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Is there a cap on it? If I want to, for example, sell
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weapons or sell alcohol or sell a bacon sandwich?
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I own a Greg's. What do I do?
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Am I allowed to do it or not? These are the things which of
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course we're talking about. But of course, this word has
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become demonized slightly. As well who's who is weaponizing
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it as the politicians. Yeah, I think it's.
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More close to the politicians, yeah.
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Or as the people who are who have connections to the ARM
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industries. So obviously there's A to.
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The gambling industry, although the drinking industry.
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Right, So there are lobbies, right.
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So each in, in all of the, in Western society, each the
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Chamber of power is, is typically influenced by pressure
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groups or lobbies and so on and so forth.
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And the most powerful lobbies will of course, advocate for
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areas of their interest where there's maximum profitability.
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So for example, the NRA is the largest lobby in the US, right,
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the National Rifle Association. So they will lobby for, you
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know, gun sales and arms sales and the right for the Second
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Amendment and so on and so forth, possession and so on.
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And with that, they then have an ability to advertise or even
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further than that to push media, push pieces in the news about,
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for example, numbers of attacks and someone coming down or, you
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know, so on and so forth. That's a bad example, but you
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generally get what I mean. And I think the same then
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applies to any other industry. The issue is, is that generally
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speaking, in my humble opinion, in the UK, we don't have a lobby
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which represents Muslims to a point which doesn't even, for
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example, put our interests forward.
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Because ultimately our responsibility as Shia Muslims,
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and I specify Shia Muslims and not as Muslims in general, but
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our responsibility as Shia Muslims is to live life to the
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best ability, to try and reach our highest potential, to get as
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close as we can to God and to be in an environment which allows
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us to try and get closer to God. So that means my friends, my
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family, my workplace, so on and so forth, to surround ourselves
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in places where we can try and perform as Muslims and Asia
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Muslims. The UK has given Muslims and the
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US ample freedom, ample opportunity.
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Many of us are mother countries in our homelands are nowhere
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near the western world when it comes to things like GDPGDP per
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capita, levels of health, levels of crime, so on and so forth.
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But I do think that we sometimes overlook the the need for us to
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be able to put ourselves forward.
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You know what's important to recognise as Shia Muslims, we
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follow a pristine set of teachings that's taught by the
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Holy Prophet and his family. So there are two pieces of work
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which are unique, I would argue to our school of thought which
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other Muslims don't have. Fair play to them.
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Let them do their thing. But we are nonviolent people.
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We're people who live by a set of treaties, charters.
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I would point people to two sets of work.
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The first being the peak of eloquence NACHA Balaga authored
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by Imam Ali Nabi Talib Ali Aslat Islam compiled then in the book
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called NACHA Balaga many several centuries after his death.
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The second being treaties of rights were certain He'll talk
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by Imam Sajada, 4th Holy Imam Ali Salatu Salam.
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There are verses in the treaties of rights, things like not just
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the rights of people and human rights, the rights of society,
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the rights of animals, the rights of wildlife, the rights
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of the inner conscience, the rights of the traveller, the
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rights of the teacher, the rights of the student, the
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rights of the parents. These are things which of course
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we know about the. Rights of a business partner.
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The rights of a business partner.
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Everything you can when you look.
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At the way of life. It's a way of life even.
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For example, you look at Kofi Annan, who was the former UN
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secretary general. Kofi Annan had a plaque and on
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that plaque it said a man is either your brother in faith or
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your equal in humanity. And these are things which we
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look to these Islamic figures. Imam Ali in his government, he
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eradicated poverty. His son Imam al Hassan al Islam
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was his treasurer. How do we get to a war with 1400
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years ago Middle Eastern society in a wild pre electricity?
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How did that world eradicate homelessness and poverty?
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Genuinely I can't understand it. There must be a set of
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principles which we can try and follow.
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They're neither socialist nor they're capitalist, than neither
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communist nor Marxist, but there are principles which we follow.
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Ultimately, Long story short, those sets of principles, in my
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humble opinion, is what we call Sharia.
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Though no, you're right. And for example, you ask about
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this whole idea of how was it, how was it even possible that
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during the rule as Khalifa Imam Ali Salaam that there was no
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poverty? I'm not going to say around the
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world, from what I understand is where he had rule over, there
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was no poverty in that region, part of the region of the world.
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Was that because there was no greed, there was no corruption?
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I think corruption is the right word to use.
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Look at the wall today. You know, a lot of people be in
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RR or be in the US or be it Marshall Allah and all the
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democratic elected politicians around the world, they're
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swimming in corruption. But why?
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It just has their name and a nice company name on an invoice
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and that's it. No, it's all corruption.
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It's all hidden any from from public view.
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But they all live in the world of greed and corruption.
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I look at, for example, there's a lot to discuss, but I think
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everyone's missing the point here.
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My, my, my, my biggest theory and all of This is why is there
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such a high conversation happening, which is, you know,
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we should be scared of Muslims, we should be scared of Sharia
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law, we should be scared of people coming into our country.
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And that's because either there is a war happening which
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involves a Muslim country, or there is a plan happening to go
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to war against a Muslim country. Because the more they make you
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fair us, the more likely you'll agree if they go to war against
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a Muslim land, for example, or against a Muslim country.
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The more they demonise us, the more it's fine that you can kill
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the women and children in those countries.
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So I don't know why they're scared of Islam or Muslims.
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Are you're scared of Israel and US foreign?
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Policies that's the so many things to be aware of first
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being you look at for example the IIFL survey they ran a poll
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which said 78% of Muslims in the UK feel that the UK is a place
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for them to grow with them and their families in comparison to
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60% of the national average. 60% of non-muslim Brits feel that
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the UK is the right place for them to call home.
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Imagine this is these British people who are not Muslim.
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Whereas 78% of people are Muslim.
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Look at democracy figures for example. 82% of Muslims in the
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UK feel that democracy as a system of governance is an
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effective system. More than the majority of of
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non-Muslims living in the UKI can't remember the exact
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statistic. There's substantially more
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Muslims believe that. Look at things like contributing
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back to society. On average Muslims give more
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charity. I'm not even just saying Muslims
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because of course all Muslims give us a cart.
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Shia Muslims give humps. Which is 1/5 of our disposable
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income. Giving back towards charitable
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courses on an annual basis. At least at least nine out of
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10/9 out of 10 Muslim households give charity on an annual basis.
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Not only give some charity but give substantial amounts of of
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funding towards charity. I feel that Muslim communities
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in the UK are highly, highly polarized.
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So the poorest groups of people are, for example, statistically
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speaking, a middle-aged East London Bangladeshi hijabi woman.
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Statistically that's like the lowest on, on kind of the
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economic scale. But at the same time, the rate
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of growth, for example, for Muslim entrepreneurs, Muslims in
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parliament, Muslim counsellors, Muslims in the NHS, Muslims in
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the education sector, all of the other major sectors.
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The contribution that our parents have allowed us to have
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now, you know, after coming here and developing it is
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unfortunately not the story being told by mainstream media
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nor the story being told by politicians.
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And not only that, now the most powerful people in the world,
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the richest people in the world, like Elon Musk is now not only
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pushing a narrative against Muslims, but also narrative
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against Shia, which will come to.
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Do We have a clip much by any chance on, on Elon Musk?
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Because I think it's there's a, have you seen it say there's a
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tweet he put out. I remember a few weeks ago there
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were, if I'm not mistaken, it was Muharram and he shared a
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clip or no caption. No caption, just Shia Muslims
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commemorating the martyrdom of let's watch this.
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Oh, it's right there. But now, honey.
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Interesting, how does that make you feel?
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That's been seen 45,000,000 times.
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Posted by Elon Musk worth over $800 billion.
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The richest man on earth. The fascist far right South
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African who until recently had a position in the Trump governor
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government in his cabinet. He posted this on his Twitter
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with no caption trying to obviously incite something.
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What do you think he's trying to incite?
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I think he's trying to incite or the fact that there is no
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caption is as if he's done like a mic drop.
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Look what I just discovered, and you guys don't know what's
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happening in the West as we've been taken over, not just by
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Muslims and migrants and whatnot, Shia Muslims.
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Do you think he actually knows? Of course he knows, bro.
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How, how would I'm just asking, yeah, my opinion aside or my
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belief, how would he or anyone else watching know if that's
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Muslim, Sunni or Shia if you didn't have the Naha there?
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1st of. All or even if you did, how
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would they? How would a non-muslim know?
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First of all, the way we dress, the way we gather, when we
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commemorate and clearly we're beating our chests.
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Who does that? Just the Shia, just the Shia do
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that. So it's very clear that that he
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has a problem with Shia Islam and in fact he has a problem
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with Islam in general. I've come across a different
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clip where I think there was this presenter where she was
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asking him like, do you hate Islam?
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Are you racist or something? And so I don't remember the full
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context but once I watched that. You got that clip.
23:32
Oh, it's right there. Let's go there.
23:36
Are you anti Muslim? Anti Muslim.
23:39
I am, I'm, I'm against having, if people are coming to a
23:49
country with antithetical views, I am against that.
23:59
I'm against that, you know, I'm against, I'm against rape and
24:05
murder. I'm against the imposition of
24:13
rules and laws that are contrary to what we've come to accept in
24:22
the West. That's crazy.
24:28
Why do you Why don't you think he answered it directly?
24:31
Do you know how easy it would be for him to say no I'm not anti
24:34
Muslim? Forget even that if you wanted
24:37
to be politically smart and correct and appease his own
24:40
audience, he could say I'm against any extremist.
24:43
I'm against anyone who's pro crime, I'm against anyone who's
24:47
pro hate. If you didn't want to say no I'm
24:49
not anti Muslim. He could have just said I'm
24:51
against extremism. But for him to specifically talk
24:55
about antithetical views to Western values in Western
24:59
society and then to talk about rape and murder, which I think
25:03
is absolutely abhorrent and absurd, especially when you look
25:06
statistically at things. For example, he mentions murder.
25:09
Let's look at murder. If you look at far right attacks
25:11
in the US versus Muslim attacks, forget even as numbers, because
25:15
obviously Muslims are dominating.
25:16
They're 1 to 2% of the population in the US.
25:19
Look at it as a percentage, the percentage of, of, of attacks in
25:23
the last 10 years in the US that are classified as terror
25:27
attacks. The majority of them are far
25:29
right nationalists, OK, Even Charlie Kirk, who was obviously
25:34
assassinated last year of September, his own killer, was a
25:37
far right nationalist. So if you imagine all of these
25:40
things which have kind of led us to where we are now, even, for
25:42
example, the guy who shot Donald Trump in his ear is a white guy.
25:46
He wasn't a Muslim, right? So I'm not trying to say it
25:49
would be wrong of us to demonize any ethnic group or religious
25:52
group and say they are the cause and the source of antithetical
25:56
values to Western society. It would make no sense for him
26:00
to do that. I'm sure the world and
26:03
mainstream media would have reacted entirely differently if
26:07
someone asked him, are you anti Jewish?
26:11
And he didn't say no, but he did say I'm anti rape and murder.
26:17
Do you know what I mean? So I think everything is it just
26:19
comes back to the fact that, you know, if he was asked about
26:22
Judaism or Christianity or Hinduism, for example, we would
26:26
have probably heard a different. Answer Elon Musk is definitely
26:31
anti Muslim 100% it goes without saying I think he's anti anti
26:36
God in in all honesty and he's anti anything that takes you
26:40
towards the path of Torhid and it's.
26:42
Very clear. This is normalized now.
26:43
This is the problem. Trump is Donald Trump is the
26:48
president of the United States has been for 10 years minus the
26:52
four years where we had a absent minded Joe in power.
26:55
But in in reality, like this is normal.
26:58
Like this is completely normal. Do you see what I mean?
27:01
Like like lies, bigotry, racism, hate, sexism, all of these
27:05
things, allegations of association to paedophiles,
27:08
allegations of, of like saying extremely pervert things about
27:12
his own family, his own daughters.
27:14
Like the guy is, is like loony. And to normalize on top of that
27:19
anti Muslim rhetoric is completely like it's, it's, it's
27:23
not something which was pre 2016 where we lived in this age of
27:27
Prevent. And you know, in the UK, for
27:30
example, the crackdown on, on Wahhabism and Salafism, Jihadi
27:35
John and this and that Channel 4 docs.
27:38
And the world has changed now, bro.
27:40
We've seen, for example, Shia preachers, Shia scholars.
27:43
OK, let's talk about this. Let's focus.
27:44
On so for example, that Shia scholars, she are organizations,
27:48
she are charities and of course we don't have access to their
27:51
books, we don't have access to these details.
27:53
We're obviously independent and disassociated from anyone on an
27:56
official basis, but of course, some of these people are people
27:58
we know on a personal basis. There are scholars, charities,
28:01
organizations which have had smear campaigns directed towards
28:05
them recently, some scholars recently, some scholars in the
28:09
last couple of years. And some of these scholars are
28:12
friends of ours or perhaps even people that we've known for many
28:14
years. What's the first thing that
28:18
you'd want to say in regards to this?
28:23
Depends who we're talking to. Are we talking to our community?
28:27
Are we talking to the people who are doing?
28:29
I think the first thing is talk, talk, talk to our community
28:32
about this. Now, if I speak to our
28:35
community, when we look at, for example, our scholars having a
28:39
spare campaign going against them or parts of their texts or
28:45
lectures or sermons, are they deliver being taken out of
28:48
context? What's the reason behind it?
28:52
The reason behind it is, is #1 firstly, of course, is to bring
28:56
a bad image to Islam. There's definitely an agenda
28:59
there that's happening. 100% would be it's our scholars or
29:03
scholars from different sects or whatever it may be.
29:05
But when it comes to our people, when it comes to our teachers
29:09
and our scholars and everything, of course, it affects us on a
29:11
personal level because we think about the work that they do,
29:14
they continue to do over the many years and inshallah until
29:17
the very last breath that they take in this life before they
29:20
meet their Creator is that this is the path of hack, bro, the
29:24
truth, the truth, everyone's going to attack it.
29:28
The Quran says Ek thorough home little hack be carry the
29:31
majority, the majority of the people, bro, they hate the
29:34
truth. Why?
29:36
So ultimately, in my opinion, people are just afraid of the
29:40
truth. And I just want to focus on
29:41
truth and hack because it's very important because we can trace
29:44
the hack back to the Anil Bates, back to Amir al Mumi, and
29:47
eventually back to Rasoolallah sallallallahu alaihi wasallam,
29:50
where they called him a liar. And he was spreading truth and
29:55
he was taking people out of darkness and into lights and he
29:59
was giving rights to people and he was defending people.
30:03
And he was known as Saud Amin. Yeah, they called him a lion.
30:07
They said stay far away from Muhammad.
30:09
So of course this is something we're not strange with and we're
30:12
used to this people attacking. And The thing is, you know as
30:16
well, speaking in favour of people or something that only
30:19
prophet to us to do. Never let yourself get bullied
30:22
and never say anything. Never, never stay silent when
30:26
you see bullying take place. We've had friends or perhaps
30:29
people in in the Shia community in the West, scholars, teachers,
30:33
speakers who have spoken up against oppression, have spoken
30:36
up against genocide, for example, in Palestine, in
30:40
Lebanon, in Iran, wherever they've seen a form of
30:44
oppression or blood spilling taking place.
30:47
And people who have spoken up, unfortunately at times have been
30:49
targeted. And even in our university
30:52
societies, we're seeing that there are societies which are
30:54
being targeted, like a lot of the times, a lot of the times.
30:58
I appreciate that there has to be in this, my humble opinion,
31:02
there has to be caution when you speak about things, but never,
31:07
ever, ever, ever allow yourself as a Shia Muslim to say to stay
31:12
silent. Would you see something wrong
31:14
happening around you? That could be in your local
31:16
facilities, in your communities, in your families, in your
31:19
friends circles, or it could be on a national scale.
31:22
And what we see geopolitically at the moment, unfortunately is
31:25
not right. How can anyone say that it's OK?
31:29
We've seen 100,000 people minimum minimum be killed in
31:33
Palestine. Every single genocide scholar in
31:36
the world has said it's the genocide, has said apartheid.
31:41
And even on top of that to then say I am for example one may say
31:46
I'm an anti Zionist. To then equate that to be
31:49
anti-Semitic in and of itself is in my humble opinion it's
31:54
illogical. I'm against the political
31:56
ideology of expansionism, of apartheid states, of
32:00
discriminatory behaviour between two types of people from an
32:03
ethnic background, two different ethnic backgrounds.
32:06
This these are political matters, political matters which
32:09
unfortunately sometimes are void of human nature and morality.
32:13
We're not talking about religious freedom.
32:15
Muslims, Christians and Jews are Abrahamic faiths.
32:18
We consider ourselves cousins from the same lineage, right?
32:22
So with that in mind, we believe that pluralism.
32:25
There are Muslims, Shia, Sunni scholars who believe that those
32:29
of Abrahamic faith will eventually reach heaven, right?
32:33
But with that in mind, put this aside.
32:35
Now we're talking about matters of human life and justice and
32:39
morale, a kind of morality. I think these are things which
32:43
we can never stay silent on. And I think those out there who
32:46
are considering whether to use their voice or for example, you
32:53
know, I might have some issues at the airport, whatever.
32:58
Like bro, unfortunately we're we're we're we're Muslims who
33:01
are born post 9/11. All of us have issues at
33:05
airports. Whether you like or no.
33:07
Yeah. Being Muslim or.
33:09
Comes in this package. Name or looking from a certain
33:13
part of the world, yeah, you're going to be brushed aside
33:16
whether you like. Or not.
33:17
Our faith, our religion teaches us to give a helping hand to
33:21
someone in need. But before I came here, a guy
33:23
broke down in his car. My faith, I remember in my mind
33:27
I was thinking the guys look like he looks a bit dodgy.
33:29
I don't think he, I don't think he, I think he might have been
33:32
drunk or whatever. His car broke down.
33:35
And I thought to myself, well, my faith has told me that if the
33:37
guy's stranded, I should offer him help.
33:39
So I did that. He said he had his own plan
33:44
sorted, but at the same time, like, that's what we're taught
33:47
to do, right? So yeah.
33:49
But you know with all this. This is what the holy.
33:51
Prophet has taught us with all this being said, and it's nice
33:53
that you just mentioned it right now, that this is what the Holy
33:55
Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Hawaii seldom taught us because it
33:58
shouldn't change who we are. I shouldn't change our ethics,
34:02
our our morals, our stances, our values, our principles.
34:06
They should remain the same whether the world is against us
34:09
or we're having a good day, whether we feel like God is not
34:12
on our side or God's given us everything in this dunya.
34:16
We shouldn't change who we are. And if we go back to the very
34:19
man himself who we are remembering, who is Rasulullah
34:23
sallallahu alaihi Wali wasallam, there are many stories that we
34:26
come across during his lifetime where it didn't matter where
34:30
people were throwing rocks or whether they were throwing trash
34:33
at him. He would not disrespect them.
34:36
He would not, if I can use the word scold them if that's the
34:42
appropriate word to use us. And there's there's even a time
34:44
where there is there was this individual who used to
34:48
constantly from their house throw trash and tell kids from
34:55
the neighboring homes to throw rocks and stones towards the
34:58
Holy Messenger, peace be upon him.
35:00
Arasul Allah would walk past this house almost on a daily
35:04
basis. And every time he passed this
35:07
house, he would bleed because of what these individuals were
35:11
doing. And this was happened many,
35:13
many, many times until one time the Prophet once once again
35:17
walked past this alleyway and no one threw rocks at him, no one
35:21
threw stones at him, no one threw trash at him, no one was
35:25
swearing towards him. So he went to ask.
35:28
He was like he asked the neighboring homes.
35:30
He was like, where are those people who used to throw stones
35:33
at me today? Where are they they?
35:36
And they said they are on their deathbed, they are sick, they
35:41
are soon losing their life. So Rasul Allah didn't say Oh no
35:46
good riddance or and handle Allah that dying or handle no,
35:50
he wants to visit them. He wants to visit the the the
35:53
head of that gang, if I can call them who are attacking the
35:56
Prophet and he went to them and he said, is there anything that
36:01
I can do before you leave this world?
36:03
Do you have any depths that I can look after?
36:05
Are there any members you want me to speak to?
36:08
Like this is how Rasul Allah was speaking to that individual.
36:12
That individual told him who are you like you, you are Muhammad
36:18
and people say you are Sadiq and you are Amin, but honestly who
36:22
are you? And he told that I am Rahmat and
36:24
Allah Amin, I am the mercy to mankind.
36:27
And was at that time they said Ashadu Allah Allah Allah Allah
36:32
Washhadu and Naka Muhammadan Rasool Allah Allah Muhammad, Ali
36:37
Muhammad. And it was that interaction that
36:39
saved this individual's life before the Angel of death took
36:43
us all. Lakshuf Rasoolallah didn't.
36:47
It didn't care if he bled. It didn't care if they threw
36:50
stones at him. It didn't care if they called
36:51
him a liar. Asana didn't care if his own
36:54
wife said he was bewitched, really didn't.
36:58
He didn't care. They used to say, at the time of
37:00
the Prophet, they used to say Rasoolallah wanted to commit
37:02
suicide. It didn't change who he was.
37:05
He didn't raise his volume at them.
37:07
He didn't go attack them. He didn't evict them from their
37:10
home. He didn't do anything of this.
37:12
He remained teaching the principles and the values of
37:14
what Allah, Subhanahu Attallah said them out to be.
37:17
And this is what's made this religion beautiful.
37:19
And Rasoolallah says there was no prophets.
37:22
That was hurt as much as I was hurt, yes, but that didn't
37:26
change who he was. And then Handela and Handela and
37:29
I think people are waking up. I've come across so many
37:34
interactions online, especially on on Instagram.
37:38
I've come across certain videos from certain creators and
37:41
influences who are not Muslim, who have never opened up the
37:46
Quran, who have never come across a Muslim community.
37:52
They've never spoken to any man from the local mosque.
37:54
They've never been inside the Masjid.
37:56
They don't know what the halal and harama of Allah, but they
38:00
read about the biography of Rasul Allah and rather the
38:04
beginning. I was like a lot of Shia.
38:06
I don't read the serial Rasul Allah.
38:07
Here we have non-Muslims reading into the life of Muhammad
38:11
sallallahu alaihi Wali wasallam and are being inspired and
38:15
what's what's inspiring them. It's not him saying OK, you have
38:18
to pray five times a day or for example, this is the way you do
38:22
or do. None of this is how he
38:24
interacted with the community. That's what and sometimes that's
38:27
what we need. And when the world is saying,
38:30
when the world is saying that we are evil, that we are murderers,
38:33
we are rapists, we are coming to conquer non-muslim lands and we
38:38
are no Barakis bro. Barakis, we are here to ensure
38:42
that your daughters, they grew up with good men.
38:46
They grew up in a society where there isn't a rise in STD's and
38:50
AIDS and all of these evil diseases.
38:54
And there's a reason why Allah sent Rasoolallah Salallahu
38:58
alaihi al Amin. And you want to attack out the
39:02
problem. The reason I mentioned that
39:03
because they attack our sisters, they say they are oppressed.
39:07
I will, I, I, I, I tell you now, do you know any sister Ahmet as
39:11
a Muslim? Do you know any sister who a
39:14
Muslim has put his daughter or his niece or his wife or his
39:18
auntie or his mum at gunpoint and said where the hijab or I'll
39:23
kill you? No, of course not.
39:26
But this is how they're portraying you.
39:30
That's a solid thumbnail, by the way, much You know what say that
39:33
is doing this, Yeah. There's a lot I want to say, but
39:38
I'm. Not no, I agree with you.
39:39
I agree with. You I don't want to get
39:40
cancelled. Look, ultimately, look, bro,
39:42
let's let's kind of wrap it up, but I think we're on the same
39:44
page here. And that's beautiful stories and
39:46
thank you for sharing that. It just goes to show ultimately,
39:51
you know, when we talk about what sallallahu Muhammad,
39:53
sallallahu alayhiwala, what he said, I have come to perfect
39:58
your akhlaq mukharam al akhlaq, you know, adab and kind of these
40:04
kind of basic human things. That is what religion is about.
40:09
Religion is about just being a good guy or a good girl, trying
40:14
your best, being nice to people around you, praying to your Lord
40:18
and returning to your Lord. And then with that comes all
40:20
these caveats like of course matter of Allah and his chosen
40:24
Hajj on earth. And these are the things which
40:26
we try and strive for. No one cares about hurting
40:28
anyone bro, just crack. On this, this is it, this is,
40:31
this is. This is the secret.
40:33
Be a good dude bro. Ultimately as well.
40:39
And my humble suggestion, my advice to my my brothers and
40:43
sisters at home, stop watching right wing streamers.
40:48
Don't watch any of these guys. I'm sure no one does but Ben
40:53
Shapiro or Nick Fuentes or Asman Gold or any of these guys.
40:59
Any of them are in town. Come on the podcast, we'll have
41:02
a chat. Sharla, we'll put you in in
41:04
place. You know, you know, there's, I
41:09
think we're coming towards the end of the conversation, but
41:10
there is one thing I want to mention because you mentioned
41:12
akhlaq and how Rasul Allah was, you know, come here to perfect
41:15
akhlaq and everything. Think of it as a Muslim
41:18
individual. I'm going to think of this you
41:20
think of and Sharla, those listening will think of this as
41:23
well. Imagine you pray five times a
41:26
day, not just at home. You go to the messages five
41:30
times a day, Marshall, but you have no o'clock.
41:34
Yeah. What's the what kind of?
41:35
Sun Yeah. And of course, of course.
41:36
What's the point though? On the day of Ashura, they
41:38
prayed. Look what they then did. 2 hours
41:42
before that, they were spoken to by the Holy Imam.
41:46
On the day of Ashura, they prayed.
41:48
While some of them were praying, the others were shooting arrows
41:50
at the Imam while he was praying.
41:52
Can you imagine what sort of people are these?
41:54
The same people who prayed behind the Imam with then the
41:57
ones who killed him or attempted to assassinate him during his
41:59
Salah, like they assassinated his father during his Salah.
42:03
You know, Allahu Alam, These are the kinds of people they will
42:06
always be the sons of Habil and the sons of Kaabil.
42:08
Ultimately, that's what it is. Speaking about his father, Emir
42:10
Al Mutmaneen and how I said earlier on people used to call
42:13
Muhammad Alaya, you know the word, Speaking of Salah, Pete,
42:17
when when Imam Ali was killed by Ibn Munjalah Ali, when he was
42:21
struck by the sword, eventually a few days later he was martyred
42:25
by that strike, the poisonous strike.
42:27
People were shocked in Sham in Surya, they said what Imam Ali
42:34
died was was struck was on Salah because there was Mahawya made
42:39
the huge campaign the way Elon Musk does or the way Bibi
42:43
Netanyahu does or the way Donald Trump does of how Muslims are
42:47
right now. Imagine Mahawya being the Trump
42:52
of that time, for example. He made the the Muslims in Sham
42:55
to believe Imam Ali didn't pray to that extent, of course.
42:59
So it it shows you, it's, it's the media, it's the narrative,
43:02
it's so the more you consume the wrong content, the more you're
43:07
likely you're bound to. Which is why.
43:09
To be misguided or you know, have certain views, which is
43:13
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Visit aftermath.com. But there was a clip I came
44:02
across a final thing where I saw, you know, Sneako and he's
44:11
Hamdullah Riva to Islam. And then he was in a
44:14
conversation with Adam Saleh. Unfortunately a lot of Muslims
44:19
watch this content lol. And.
44:22
Yeah, but I. Was saying I said we don't want
44:25
to judge people but you should not be watching this content.
44:28
Sorry. I'm sorry, Adam, watch your
44:29
entertainment. No.
44:31
No, no. I don't watch it.
44:32
Look up to him as a Muslim. Unfortunately bro, I'm I'm not
44:34
going to lie, I do judge Muslims.
44:36
But they were in the. Same way I judge myself if I
44:38
came on the podcast now and I said some wack stuff, judge me.
44:42
Please judge me because I may learn from that experience but I
44:46
want to see this clip most about.
44:48
About Karbala. Yeah, yeah, let's pull it up.
44:51
I want to go to Karbala. You want to pull up?
44:53
You want to come to Karbala? I'm down.
44:56
Well, I always want to go to. I'm like why if I go my family
44:58
with this one? Why?
45:00
Well, you can go to Iran, bro. You can go to.
45:04
It's worth that. It's worth the grave of Imam
45:05
Hussein. This is the grand son of the
45:06
Prophet. Yeah bro, just.
45:09
Don't you don't have to, Don't worship the grave.
45:11
The same thing when you go to Medina to have the prophets
45:12
great peace upon him, but you don't worship it.
45:14
So you can go and visit, but just don't pray to it.
45:17
Yeah, you can go. Just don't do that.
45:21
Just don't play on the rock. Yeah.
45:24
No rock. No rock, no rock.
45:30
I have Shia allegations and 1. Uma.
45:39
You know all one, Uma. I've never seen a Sunny
45:40
willingly go there. That 'd be a great video.
45:48
I don't want to hear this guy man shut this thing off, but
45:51
that guy man, allow it. Allow it, God.
45:54
My God, we don't. Want to hear Shamsi.
45:56
Sorry mate, you. Heard that?
45:57
Yeah. Three.
45:57
Yeah. Look, yeah, go on, go on, go.
46:00
The first thing now Sneako, if you are watching, I will take
46:03
you to Karbala after Maghrib will take you to Karbala.
46:07
In fact, if you do end up in Karbala, just understand that it
46:10
is an invitation inshallah by the very grandson of Rasulullah
46:15
Salallahu Alayhiwali Wasalaman that has Imam Hussein, the son
46:18
of Amir Al Mukhmanin Ali Abdullah Alayhi Salaam.
46:21
So don't just you. Know.
46:23
Speak with Adam Saleh Hamara. No, no, no.
46:25
Come chat to Ahmed Gokul, for example, our ulama, our
46:30
scholars, our teachers, where we can answer any questions that
46:34
you may have, misconceptions that you may have.
46:36
And of course, if you go Karbala, you're welcome.
46:40
There, Yeah, of course, that's important. 20 million people
46:44
have just come back from Karbala, 20 million people who
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have visited Karbala and the peak of war in the middle of
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August or July and beginning. 47°.
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Incredibly hot. I can't even imagine as hot in
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here. I can't imagine.
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But with that as well, on top of that, people prioritize this
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year. Why does it?
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Why do they go? What does it teach them about
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standing up against oppression today?
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You mentioned we're all one Omar.
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You want to see what Omar looks like come to Kabala.
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That's where you see what the profit envisage for an Omar.
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In reality, you see generosity beyond bounds beyond you see
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sacrifice beyond comparison and the comprehension.
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You see what people stole heed looks like when they're going
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towards the one who gave his life for a lot and saying I want
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to be like you, teach me how you gave towards God.
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I want to, I want to give towards God in the same way you
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gave towards God. Your companions gave towards
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God. This is what Islam is,
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submission at its finest. If submission is not what Imam
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Ali Salaam did, then what did he do?
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He's the pinnacle of submission, like his grandfather, you know
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what I mean? So these are the things which we
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learned. Also.
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Last thing I want to say is, yeah, bro, these guys, Adam
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Saleh, Slim, and I think, I think that's his name.
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The two guy and the other guy. Yeah.
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You guys are equally as welcome. I have a lot of words I want to
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say but just to keep it aside because I said Ammar did a
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lecture did you hear and other by and he was talking about this
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exact clip subhanallah and he addressed.
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The same clip. Same clip.
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He addressed it really well. So I don't want to go like,
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repeat anything. There's a lot of things we could
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say to these guys. But what I would say is you're
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welcome. You know, Karbala, I feel like
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it's my home. I'm not an Iraqi.
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Every Muslim. I'm not an Iraqi, but when I go
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there, I feel like I'm visiting my home, my hometown, my people.
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Because the level of, of, of hospitality, you get us off the
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charts. Home is where the.
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Shirk shirk if there is any Haram in Karbala, it's like any
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city in the world like Mecca and Medina as well where you do see
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Haram. They do see people.
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Sorry, there's no shark though. I'm saying if there's any Haram
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in Karbala, there's Haram. Anywhere in the world, there's
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Haram someone. There are people who are
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sinning, right? Yeah, sinning is common.
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Sinning is everywhere. We're not flaws.
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We go to these places to wipe our slate clean and ultimately
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to try and remove those flaws within.
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Finally, the last thing I say is I will give you one of these
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rocks, I promise. Well, I need a rock.
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There's a rocks everywhere where they're not rocks, bro, they're
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turba, they're turab. They're from the the dust of the
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earth. Of course, the Holy Prophet and
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Sahil Bukhari, it says that the Prophet used to pray.
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He said that Allah, Subhana Allah has made these lands for
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prostration and purification. So use it for these purposes.
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We see so many times that when he rose from Sir Jude, he had
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marks of earth on his forehead. We see that beyond that as well,
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the Holy Prophet and some of his companions even used to carry
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small pieces, pieces of clay with them on their travels.
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Why? For Salah, for prayer.
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So these are the things which we learned from.
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We're trying to be like the Sahaba.
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We're trying to be like the Ahmedabad.
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I am a salati or Salaam. And who else better to learn
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from than the grandson, the Holy Prophet?
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So the last thing I'll say is to use Nico to Adam Saleh and to
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all of the brothers in this video.
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If you do want to go to Karbala during Alabain or even outside
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of this period, let us know after Mahadev personally, we
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will take you will fund the whole trip.
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We will introduce you to dignitaries.
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We will introduce you to high-ranking Shia scholars from
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the East to the West, whether they speak English or they speak
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Arabic. You will speak to those who
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represent our mud hub and who work towards the unity of our
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ummah. You can get a first hand,
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unfiltered, realistic and undiluted opinion of what this
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school of thought is. So make sure you reach out to
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us. We will be there and then shot a
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lot. We will be back next week and
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shot a lot on the Aftermarket podcast.
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Make sure you're there. Salaam Alaikum.