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Chuck in the Morning 8-17 Hour 3: MMQB with Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: All right, Happy Monday to you all, and here we go.
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Speaker 2: The start of it all.
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Speaker 1: Our first Monday Morning Quarterback session of the football season.
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Speaker 1: Our own QB won the Star of Monday Morning Quarterback
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Speaker 1: is back with us for another year. Hugh Millan joins
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Speaker 1: us here on the radio show Happy Football.
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Speaker 3: Hugh, Yeah, good to be with you. It's nice to
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Speaker 3: get things going. Yeah, it wasn't the Picasso that Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald was perhaps hoping for. But you know, if we fourge.
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Speaker 1: On, Yeah, but before we get into some of the details,
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that, because what
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Speaker 1: does he mean when How important is that to be
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Speaker 1: on time with getting the call in and getting all
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Speaker 1: of your community hation done and pre snap being in
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Speaker 1: the right position, the right mindset, knowing having just that
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Speaker 1: speed with which and that efficiency to get the play in.
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Speaker 1: How important is that to operating an offense and a defense.
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Speaker 3: Well, the way you pose the question, I don't think
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Speaker 3: there's a coach in the land that would not say
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Speaker 3: vitally important. You know, it's just it's the fundamental it's
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Speaker 3: probably just rooted in the DNA of every coach that Yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's a certain cadence to how you want the operation
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Speaker 3: to go. Hey, we need to get the play call.
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Speaker 3: You know, just intuitively, you have yet that time clock.
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Speaker 3: As a quarterback is expected to have a time clock
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Speaker 3: in the pocket for hey, I'm holding the ball too long,
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Speaker 3: as does a coach have an internal clock, Like wait
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Speaker 3: a minute, We're not this is not getting in fast enough.
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Speaker 3: We're not breaking the huddle. We're not calling it, you know,
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Speaker 3: calling the plays. You know, our alignment. Uh, you know
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Speaker 3: they have those those practices where they're just focus on
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Speaker 3: a walk through just alignment and assignment and and yeah.
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Speaker 3: So so being in the right spot is and and
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Speaker 3: and the mechanics of the game. I think you know,
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Speaker 3: some coaches say, hey, that that's the first building block, right,
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Speaker 3: you know, and and so when when he sees that
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Speaker 3: not at his standard, you're not gonna be upset. But
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Speaker 3: you know, the look, there's a lot of sloppy stuff.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a point where you were second
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Speaker 3: and thirty nine.
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Speaker 2: Oh I think it just popped off. All right, we
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Speaker 2: got to get that back.
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Speaker 3: We got to get that back, all right.
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Speaker 2: Hu Millan is with us.
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Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, this is like a new thing that we're
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Speaker 1: dealing with here. We heard it for the first time,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, a week ago or.
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Speaker 3: Something like that.
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Speaker 2: The pop wasn't as large. If that's a.
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Speaker 1: Silver Linniu and pop, it was just like a gentle
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Speaker 1: tap of a pop as opposed to one we heard last.
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Speaker 2: Week where it scared the Jesus out of me.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll get Humellan back here and we'll pick
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Speaker 1: it up at that second and thirty nine. And a
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Speaker 1: little bit of the sloppiness that took place on the
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Speaker 1: field that Mike McDonald was not happy with. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it didn't take him. He didn't need any encouragement from
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Speaker 1: the Seattle media hoarde whatsoever to complain about that. So
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Speaker 1: we'll get back to the conversation with you here in
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And there's a lot of other things
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Speaker 1: to cover, and some good things as well. But quarterback
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Speaker 1: play an offensive line, you were operating with your second
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Speaker 1: string offensive line throughout the course of the game, or
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Speaker 1: at least the course of the first half. Then you
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Speaker 1: had third string fourth stringers in before it came to
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Speaker 1: a close. I mean, twenty one penalties were called the game,
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Speaker 1: and so I mean that just shows you how sloppy
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Speaker 1: it was on Saturday on both sides of the ball,
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Speaker 1: but twenty one penalties kind of bogged things down. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that's as much to say about your lack of any
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Speaker 1: kind of continuity or speed or rhythm when you're constantly
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Speaker 1: stopping the game. And also, we did get to see,
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Speaker 1: by the way Saturday, since I got a little time
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Speaker 1: to point this out, I didn't think I would how easy,
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Speaker 1: how easy gene Sterotor and others make it look when
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Speaker 1: you're announcing penalties, because I don't know what happened to
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Speaker 1: the main guy, but he got removed from the game
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Speaker 1: and they had to go to the backup, and boy
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Speaker 1: did he struggle.
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Speaker 2: Boy did he have a rough time.
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Speaker 1: It looked like he didn't know the rules, he didn't
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Speaker 1: know which team was on which side of the ball,
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Speaker 1: any of that. But he certainly his his coorts didn't
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Speaker 1: make it easier on him. They were flag happy in
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Speaker 1: that second half.
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Speaker 2: Do we have h back? We don't have you back yet.
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Speaker 2: I'm working on it, I called. I think he's calling me,
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Speaker 2: now hold.
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Speaker 1: On, okay, all right, we'll get Hugh back in a second.
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Speaker 1: But yes, a lot of penalty flags in that game
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Speaker 1: last night and or Saturday night, and it was not enjoyable,
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Speaker 1: to say the least. That bogs down a good game,
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Speaker 1: a much less sloppy preseason game like we watched on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: All right, we got you back, hopefully for good here, Hugh.
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Speaker 1: But you were getting ready to talk about second and
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Speaker 1: thirty nine as an example of how sloppy the team
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Speaker 1: looked on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, second and thirty nine. I mean, that's just gonna
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Speaker 3: kind of rankle any coach. And then you know, he
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Speaker 3: made the decision to go forward on the first play
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Speaker 3: of the fourth quarter at the six yard line, fourth
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Speaker 3: and four. I understand why he would want on that
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Speaker 3: particular play to put his team in stress. His offense
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Speaker 3: see how Brian Florey calls a play. I see how
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Speaker 3: they can execute. But but I think they may have
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Speaker 3: been better served to kick the field goal. Kick the
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Speaker 3: short field goal. Pulled to within seventeen to ten. Now
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Speaker 3: you get to evaluate the players on the field on defense, Hey,
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Speaker 3: how do you respond when you're within a touchdown and
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Speaker 3: you have momentum to the players on offense, how how
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Speaker 3: you know, Hey, let's go try and win this thing.
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Speaker 3: You know, because now within a touchdown and and and
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Speaker 3: you know, I think it's hard sometimes for coaches to
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Speaker 3: to tell the players, hey, you know, you know this
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Speaker 3: is important. We're evaluating. And you know, if you if
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Speaker 3: the coach makes decisions not to win or I would
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Speaker 3: say that's that's probably an unfair comparison. I would say
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Speaker 3: that it's it's not a standard decision you'd make, right,
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Speaker 3: would you Do you think he'd make that in the
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Speaker 3: regular session? I do not.
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Speaker 1: I think to do with I know Jason Myers can
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Speaker 1: make a field goal, I'd rather work on fourth and four.
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Speaker 2: But you're right, there's some.
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Speaker 1: Learning to be done in you know, making it a
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Speaker 1: seven point game, and how do we play after that?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: And now I will say that in my own opinion,
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Speaker 3: if you said, if there was some you know, alternate universe,
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Speaker 3: you know where you could run an experiment a thousand times,
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Speaker 3: do the Seahawks have a Are they better off today
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Speaker 3: having beat the Cowboys and or having lost to the
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Speaker 3: Cowboys in pre season? I would argue that they're better
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Speaker 3: off today having lost. I think that this gives Mike
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Speaker 3: McDonald a chance to really, you know, grind on on
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Speaker 3: the details in ways that you know, the let's state
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Speaker 3: an obvious fact they've been practicing and their last game
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Speaker 3: was when they won the super Bowl, and so there's
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Speaker 3: no sense of urgency. Now. I'm not going to overplay
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Speaker 3: it and say there's a bunch of urgency because he
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Speaker 3: lost preseason game number one. But I was in somewhat
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Speaker 3: of a similar situation when I got traded. The Cowboys
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Speaker 3: went the after year one of their from three out
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Speaker 3: of four year period there where they won the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: So so, as the defending champions, the opening preseason game,
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Speaker 3: we lost to Minnesota at home and looked bad doing it,
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Speaker 3: and Jimmy Johnson was apoplectic, and I mean showed more
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Speaker 3: fury than I could ever imagine a coach could could
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Speaker 3: exhibit after a preseason game, let alone preseason game number one,
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Speaker 3: let alone near the super Bowl champions. But it did
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Speaker 3: allow him an opportunity to really kind of reset the
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Speaker 3: focus in those next several days after that. So I
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Speaker 3: think we're just fine in a night, and I think
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Speaker 3: this kind of sets out paradoxically as perfect for Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to use it as a coaching tool for sure.
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millan is with us. It's some Monday morning quarterback.
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Speaker 1: It's our first session as we talk about the preseason opener. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's get into some quarterback play. I know that on
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Speaker 1: Friday you circle Jalen Milroe as a guy to watch
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Speaker 1: certainly in this game, maybe the guy to watch in
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Speaker 1: this game. And then Drew Locke starts the game. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if there was a highlight, it's going thirteen plays, eighty
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Speaker 1: yards and seven minutes to score a touchdown the first
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Speaker 1: time you touch the football offensively, preseason game or not.
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Speaker 2: So let's start with that.
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Speaker 1: Let's start with Drew Locke and what you saw from
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Speaker 1: that drive and what you saw from the quarterback on Saturday.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think his best play was certainly the touchdown pass.
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Speaker 3: It's a quarters coverage, which means there's four defenders deep
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Speaker 3: in the back layer. And the way that play, you're
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Speaker 3: trying to get a slot receiver to pull the near
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Speaker 3: safety and then isolate one on one the outside corner
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Speaker 3: and with the guy in his face and him having
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Speaker 3: to have had to stem inside. Beautiful timing and ball placements,
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Speaker 3: so the execution was great. Thereafter a few things, he
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Speaker 3: turned down a slant route to to Jake Bobo where
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Speaker 3: they set the formation to the left and and he
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Speaker 3: had a slant he came out ended up throwing a swing.
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Speaker 3: I think if I was quarterback coaching him, I'd probably
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Speaker 3: give him a minus on that play. That there was
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Speaker 3: a play over the middle that he tried to hit
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Speaker 3: Bobo on what in the I know the forty nine
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Speaker 3: Ers in their pass offense with Kyle Shanahan, they call
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Speaker 3: it a skid route. So Brian Florey comes over and
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Speaker 3: and and Bobo was a line to the left, and
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Speaker 3: you remember him running that inbreaking route. But the pass,
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Speaker 3: the pass gets defensed. The ball could have been out
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Speaker 3: in front a little more. But that's a next example
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Speaker 3: of just the precision is in the details. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if I'm coaching Jake Bobo, I say, hey, you're you're
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Speaker 3: losing ground up the field. You gotta particularly because corners,
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Speaker 3: when you watch the All twenty two tape, these corners
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Speaker 3: no Bobo cannot run. And in Manda Man's situations or
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Speaker 3: zones that resemble man de Man on the corner has
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Speaker 3: to mirror the wide receiver. The the wide receiver when
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Speaker 3: he makes an inbreaking round, he's got to flatten that
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Speaker 3: come downhill towards the ball. So I think that there
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Speaker 3: was an issue there. You know, he missed the go
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Speaker 3: route where you know it was, you know, a slant
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Speaker 3: and go. And when you get that kind of separation
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Speaker 3: of your professional quarterback, you got great protection. You got
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Speaker 3: to hit that. Yeah, yeah, you know, and and yeah,
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Speaker 3: and I would say, do you do you recall the
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Speaker 3: one where he threw the ball to the inside to Bobo.
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Speaker 3: This is this is different than the Bobo play that
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Speaker 3: that I'm talked about where they had the incomplete the
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Speaker 3: pass break up. But there was one where there was
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Speaker 3: clearly miscommunication on a deep a deep hook with Bobo
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Speaker 3: and and Drew locked through it inside. You know, you
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Speaker 3: look at that, and and you know, it's kind of
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Speaker 3: hard to imagine Bobo would be what what would hook
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Speaker 3: the ball when he's expected to go in. It's also
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Speaker 3: hard for me to imagine. Now Locke was under duress,
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Speaker 3: he throws the ball inside. But but if you look
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Speaker 3: at that, you know, we talked about the details of
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Speaker 3: the play. If you're going to have the split in,
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Speaker 3: run a deep hook route, and you have a crossing
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Speaker 3: route to influence. This is zone coverage. You get the
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Speaker 3: running back sitting over the middle, but there's a crossing
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Speaker 3: route coming from the right side in the person of
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Speaker 3: Cody White, and his split was well outside the formation.
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Speaker 3: You're asking him to get all the way over to
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Speaker 3: the other side to uh to influence what's called the
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Speaker 3: flat defender, to widen that hole for Bobo and Cody White.
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Speaker 3: I you know, he's at nine yards. I would have said,
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Speaker 3: you want to be closer to six yards. He's kind
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Speaker 3: of jogging and and it just looks like a mess.
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Speaker 3: It just doesn't look like Chris football. And and and
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Speaker 3: then you know, a veteran receiver and a veteran quarterback
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Speaker 3: aren't on the same page. So so I think you
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Speaker 3: know that that's one of many examples where you just
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Speaker 3: kind of go, wait a minute, it's just it's just
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Speaker 3: not tight. And uh So at an event, you know
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Speaker 3: Lock uh a lot. You know, he's got to hit
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Speaker 3: that that that slugo. I mean, I mean when you
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Speaker 3: run that slugo, there's two ways you can You can
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Speaker 3: coach it. You can coach and the slugg is a
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Speaker 3: word conjunction for slant and go. And this is the
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Speaker 3: this is the the deep ball that Lock missed up
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Speaker 3: the Sea Owks sideline. So the receiver, if you if
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Speaker 3: he takes a thin angle, meaning he comes up three steps,
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Speaker 3: and he and and he doesn't go hard to the inside.
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Speaker 3: He kind of goes at a at a what what
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Speaker 3: in math we call an obtuse angle, a more obtuse
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Speaker 3: angle that's called a skinny angle. Well, your momentum can
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Speaker 3: keep you going, but you may be less likely to
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Speaker 3: get the corner to bite. If you come up and
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Speaker 3: you go three steps and then you go flatter to
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Speaker 3: the inside, almost like an in route instead of a slant,
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Speaker 3: then then you you're more likely to get the corner
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Speaker 3: to drive hard, but your momentum is harder to get
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Speaker 3: you going up the field back to redirect your momentum
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Speaker 3: going back vertically. So this was a relatively flat angle.
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Speaker 3: And perhaps you know, if I showed one hundred slug
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Speaker 3: os in the NFL, you would see many that are
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Speaker 3: at that angle, but you would see menering it that
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Speaker 3: are a skinnier angle. So perhaps Locke, because what we
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Speaker 3: call the receiver gets buried on the first move of
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Speaker 3: a double move, then his acceleration and it's harder to
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Speaker 3: get going. But in any event, there was so much separation.
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Speaker 3: Lock's got to hit that.
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Speaker 1: Mom Let's talk about mill row. I mean, there were
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Speaker 1: some plays. He ran more than what we've seen him
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Speaker 1: run in the past, and tiptoed down the sidelines at
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Speaker 1: one point at a twenty yard run.
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Speaker 3: At one point.
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Speaker 1: He did have that creative little lake sidearm throat of
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Speaker 1: a net late in the game, and I thought I
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Speaker 1: had a couple little crisp short passes that were accurate.
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Speaker 1: But he did look sloppy for most of the game,
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Speaker 1: and sloppier as the players around him were less experienced
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Speaker 1: as the game went all. So, overall, your assessment of
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Speaker 1: what you saw out of Milrow, somebody that you were
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Speaker 1: looking forward to breaking down.
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Speaker 3: Well, they're calling relatively simple concepts for him. A lot
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Speaker 3: of mirrored stuff. No I can recall breaking them down
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Speaker 3: coming an all out of Alabama. And and if Mike
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Speaker 3: Holmgren we're here, we talk about the Hank route, which
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Speaker 3: is a very simple route where it's a double you know,
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Speaker 3: double cool routes on each side, and then there's the
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Speaker 3: tight end is over the middle, and then there's two
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Speaker 3: guys in the flat and you can invert it so
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Speaker 3: instead of the wide receiver going up the curl, you
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Speaker 3: can have the slot doing the curl and then the
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Speaker 3: wide guys just sit in the flat. Uh that that
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Speaker 3: was the first play that they ran for him in
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Speaker 3: a bowl game at Alabama there or where, Hey, let's
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Speaker 3: just give him something simple. You saw derivatives of that
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Speaker 3: play on Saturday night, you know, just kind of trying
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Speaker 3: to stay with the basics and there's variations. Like I said,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the details. So so
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Speaker 3: they tried to keep it simple for him. You know,
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Speaker 3: double slant, you know what what's called lying in that
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Speaker 3: that offense where you just you know, the quick game.
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Speaker 3: I think his running, his running nobility was good, but
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Speaker 3: you know he had a couple scrambles when only had
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Speaker 3: two yards and and you know, you come back and
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Speaker 3: you look in and you say, wait a minute. The
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Speaker 3: biggest thing he has to work on is his anticipation.
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Speaker 3: Did he have an in route from right to left
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Speaker 3: where if he if he put his foot in the
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Speaker 3: ground and he smoked it out there, did he have
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Speaker 3: the time one of the cops the pocket was claps
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Speaker 3: and a lot on them. The Seacak quarterbacks had thirteen
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Speaker 3: pressures against them, whereas the Seahawk defense only produced nine
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Speaker 3: pressures against Cowboy quarterbacks. So that was a factor. I don't.
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Speaker 3: I do not think he had good protection. But while
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Speaker 3: he did on a third and eleven have a twelve
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Speaker 3: yard scramble and he had another twenty yarder, there's a
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Speaker 3: couples where I thought, you know, maybe he's a little underwhelming. Look,
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Speaker 3: we know he's an elite runner. You know he's not
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Speaker 3: young Lamar Jackson runner. But if he ever plays in
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Speaker 3: a game, he's going to be a force with his
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Speaker 3: running ability. But when you evaluate a preseason game, we
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Speaker 3: can postulate it very simple, like this regular season starting
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Speaker 3: defenses that we can assume that they have more team
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Speaker 3: speed than backups in the preseason. Is that a fair assumption?
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Speaker 3: So we know that if we take a quarterback like
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Speaker 3: Milrow in his athleticism, whatever we see when he's beating defenders,
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Speaker 3: it's going to be harder if he's doing that in
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Speaker 3: the regular season. And then Lamar Jackson would attest to
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Speaker 3: this point. Then it ramps up even more in the
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Speaker 3: playoffs because you've got great team speed and everybody's motivated
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Speaker 3: on every place or so some of those running plays
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Speaker 3: that you could get in September you cannot get in
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Speaker 3: in January, and so it just elevates. So when you're
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Speaker 3: talking about a quarterback who's who's running ability, but specifically
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Speaker 3: scrambling ability is a big part of what they contribute.
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Speaker 3: Then you know, you've got to really look at that
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Speaker 3: with a keen eye and and and say, hey, are
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Speaker 3: you are you scrambling? Are you turning down some plays?
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Speaker 3: Are you? Are you scrambling when you could have just
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Speaker 3: turned to your left, there's a checkdown right in front
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Speaker 3: of you. Dump it to him, let him go. And
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Speaker 3: there there were some minuses on his sheet in the
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Speaker 3: manner that I described or I think that you know.
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Speaker 3: And in some cases his eyes weren't even in the
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Speaker 3: right place and he missed guys that he could have
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Speaker 3: with with I'm not going to say elite level, but
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Speaker 3: just normal level good timing that there's some opportunities to
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Speaker 3: get some intermediate cuts down the field.
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Speaker 2: You Mellani is with us our QB one.
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Speaker 1: It's our first official Monday morning quarterback session of the
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Speaker 1: brand new football season. And I appreciate that Hugh dressed
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Speaker 1: up for it. You should see him with his tucks
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Speaker 1: on right now.
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Speaker 4: And yes for the opener. Yeah, we should go on
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Speaker 4: Thursday morning. We should get the match in touch Thursday morning. Now, Softie, would.
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Speaker 3: This on me if if he knew I was wearing
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Speaker 3: a tuck?
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Speaker 2: All right, well, we got more with you. On the
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Speaker 2: other side, we got a lot more to break down.
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Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three k A R F M.
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Speaker 1: All right, season's under wide preseason game, a loss to
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys seven teen to seven.
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Speaker 2: Nobody's worried about that. On Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: We've already talked about some of the sloppiness that Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald was referencing in his post game press conference comments.
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Speaker 1: But there's some good things to dive into as well.
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Speaker 1: Hugh Millan is here diving along with us our QB
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Speaker 1: one here on a session of Monday Morning Quarterback. Can
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Speaker 1: we talk about Tyresee Knight, Hugh. I mean, he seemed
21:25
Speaker 1: to be everywhere. I don't know if he was just
21:27
Speaker 1: Jesse tuggling it where he was just collecting tackles everywhere
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Speaker 1: he went, or if he played really that well. But
21:37
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald said he was clearly the best player on
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Speaker 1: the field, So I assume you thought highly of Tyree
21:43
Speaker 1: Knight's performance.
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Speaker 3: Too, Yes, really really good. And I do want to
21:49
Speaker 3: start off I've read I've heard it said that he
21:54
Speaker 3: was wearing the green dot and that he was the
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Speaker 3: Mike linebacker. To the first point, he's wearing the green dot,
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Speaker 3: the communication that that that's just visible on the end zone.
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Speaker 3: But I would I would say this. I can't prove it,
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Speaker 3: but I do not believe there is one quarterback room
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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. They would watch that tape
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Speaker 3: and say that Night was the middle linebacker. He was
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Speaker 3: the will linebacker, and uh, you know, it's the Drake
22:30
Speaker 3: Thomas position he had, and then Drake Thomas took he
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Speaker 3: played will linebacker and the fact that he was doing
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Speaker 3: any of the communication doesn't uh change the fact that
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Speaker 3: he was the weak side linebacker. Now you could say
22:42
Speaker 3: he was an off the ball linebacker. So he's a
22:45
Speaker 3: middle lin if if if you want to use a
22:47
Speaker 3: term in a very generic sense, he's a middle linebacker.
22:51
Speaker 3: But Patrick O'Connell was the mic h on, which is
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Speaker 3: the actual middle linebacker. And and I'd be stunned if
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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald wouldn't agree with that, I'd be I'd be flabbergasted.
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Speaker 3: So at an event week sidelinebacker beautiful uh instincts in
23:10
Speaker 3: terms of recognizing, you know, gap schemes, the backside guard
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Speaker 3: coming at him and understanding how to beat the blocks
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Speaker 3: step up. His awareness of how to beat blocks was
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Speaker 3: was really really on display with when you're playing the
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Speaker 3: weekside linebacker and you have to walk out on a
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Speaker 3: on a slot on a third down, you know, to
23:34
Speaker 3: too high structure. If he was protected by what's called
23:38
Speaker 3: the cloud corner, meaning to he's he's aligned on the
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Speaker 3: right side of the field and there's a corner I
23:47
Speaker 3: believe it was. It was thirty four. Uh you know
23:50
Speaker 3: our boy, uh Sama teen Charles Road. But but but
23:56
Speaker 3: if he would have had a zone there to his outside,
23:59
Speaker 3: then that would have been a less a less h
24:05
Speaker 3: less of an area that he had to cover. But
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Speaker 3: when the corner clears out of that and runs down
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Speaker 3: the field, there's a lot of grass that that that
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Speaker 3: the will linebacker Tyreese Knight has to cover. And so
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Speaker 3: on a third down he gets the pass breakup against
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Speaker 3: number eighty three. I look it up. Eighty three is
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver. So he's covering a wide receiver in
24:28
Speaker 3: the slot on a on an outbreaking route where he
24:31
Speaker 3: doesn't have cloud help, which is the corner too was
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Speaker 3: outside in the shallow zone. So so I think just
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Speaker 3: you know, as I said, recognition is tackling and and
24:44
Speaker 3: and that really was going back he played. Remind me
24:47
Speaker 3: again he played at Texas, not San anton That was frequiling.
24:50
Speaker 3: But look up his college. I know it was a
24:53
Speaker 3: small college, but I remember watching them. They played the
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Speaker 3: game against the Arizona. Was he tear text. I don't know.
25:00
Speaker 3: Maybe Astley can help us, but he played at the
25:03
Speaker 3: smallest pology. I remember studying the Arizona tape air every
25:07
Speaker 3: single play, and I remember writing down up that utap
25:13
Speaker 3: okay so utep plays Arizona, and I remember just going
25:17
Speaker 3: his eye discipline. Whoa, he's just you can fool him.
25:21
Speaker 3: He want you know, one fake fly sweep and he's
25:25
Speaker 3: you know, he's just all over the place like a
25:27
Speaker 3: chicken with his head cut off, and and and so
25:30
Speaker 3: you know, his movement was good, but his his recognition
25:34
Speaker 3: was not. So now you're getting a young player that's
25:37
Speaker 3: got some experience getting obviously elite coaching, and uh, it
25:42
Speaker 3: all came together for him on on Saturday and night
25:44
Speaker 3: he had a he had a had a hell of
25:46
Speaker 3: a game and in coverage, being tough physically, recognition, uh,
25:53
Speaker 3: the awareness to take on blocks physically, or sidestep a
25:56
Speaker 3: block if he could without getting himself out of a gap.
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a lot of good stuff. I'm sure
26:02
Speaker 3: his grade seat looks really sterling.
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Speaker 1: Now you said our boy Jean Chamar or Chamar Jean Charles,
26:10
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you heard my segment from earlier where I
26:15
Speaker 1: said it seemed like every good play the Cowboys made,
26:19
Speaker 1: he was in the picture trying to defend. So I
26:22
Speaker 1: guess you're with me that he was sort of on
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Speaker 1: the other end the guys that seemed to struggle on
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Speaker 1: Saturday night.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, in his defense a couple of things.
26:38
Speaker 3: First of all, you know, it was kind of going.
26:40
Speaker 3: There's some plays, you know, as I'm watching the tape,
26:43
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to get me really excited because
26:45
Speaker 3: it's preseason. But like Jared Ivy came down and just
26:48
Speaker 3: stoned this pulling lineman and I go, wow, that is
26:53
Speaker 3: some serious violence. But but I didn't say wow. I
26:56
Speaker 3: said whoa, you know, And there's a few times where
26:59
Speaker 3: I go whoa. And then I was talking with my wife,
27:02
Speaker 3: I'm like, is wow more of an expletive than than woe?
27:06
Speaker 3: And She's like, yeah, maybe so, And then you could
27:09
Speaker 3: argue that there's there were several looe plays, but only
27:12
Speaker 3: two Wow plays and they were both made against him
27:16
Speaker 3: by the same receiver. You know that the touchdown to
27:21
Speaker 3: track the ball and convert that to a touchdown that
27:25
Speaker 3: was you know that that could have made sports Center
27:27
Speaker 3: top ten. And then the catch in the end zone,
27:32
Speaker 3: the one handed catch that could have made a sports
27:35
Speaker 3: Center top ten. I don't know if it did, but
27:37
Speaker 3: certainly they seem like candidates. And so so, yeah, he
27:40
Speaker 3: was victim. You know, he was at the other end
27:43
Speaker 3: of really great plays. But and and you know they
27:45
Speaker 3: also if you're rolling to me, Ami Pritchett, that on
27:50
Speaker 3: the coverage and Seattle's they are there are number one
27:53
Speaker 3: coverage is a coverage called Cover six, and they are,
27:57
Speaker 3: depending on on how you want to look at it,
27:59
Speaker 3: either number one or two, number two in the league
28:01
Speaker 3: and in percentages and and the total number of plays
28:04
Speaker 3: and what have you. So they're big Cover sixteam. And
28:06
Speaker 3: what that means is the two safeties that are high
28:12
Speaker 3: and and you're you're playing what's called quarters coverage on
28:16
Speaker 3: one side and cover two on the other. What does
28:18
Speaker 3: that mean? You're rolling the coverage down to one side.
28:22
Speaker 3: So one corner has a really easy job. He's in
28:24
Speaker 3: the flat because he has a safety over the top.
28:28
Speaker 3: But the opposite corner he's got he doesn't have any
28:34
Speaker 3: helps safety help over the top, so he's got to
28:36
Speaker 3: cover everything from the lion scrimmage to the back of
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Speaker 3: the end zone on that particular widest receiver. I don't
28:44
Speaker 3: know if that it'd be better to if I had
28:46
Speaker 3: a napkin to drive. But the point is, if you're
28:49
Speaker 3: rolling to pretch it, he's got an easy job, but
28:52
Speaker 3: here you're giving a tougher job to Shamir John Tarls.
28:57
Speaker 3: So that that that came in play a bit. And
29:02
Speaker 3: yet and yet you know, look, I don't know we
29:05
Speaker 3: need to spend a lot of time on a guy
29:07
Speaker 3: who's likely to get cut. But yeah, it was a
29:08
Speaker 3: tough day for Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Hugh Mellan is with us. It's our first Monday morning.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback session of the football season, and certainly more to discuss.
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Speaker 1: We'll continue the conversation next on Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three KJRFM. Oh, many more observations from our QB one.
29:31
Speaker 1: He's very observant that QB one Hugh Mellan with us
29:34
Speaker 1: here talking about the preseason opener seventeen to seven loss
29:36
Speaker 1: to the Dallas Cowboys. We've certainly broken down a few
29:40
Speaker 1: of the essentials, but there are just some open ended questions.
29:45
Speaker 1: I have to ask you to see where his eyes
29:48
Speaker 1: and his thoughts took him in this preseason opener. Plus,
29:52
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure since we've got Hugh with us here today,
29:55
Speaker 1: we need to talk about Devin Witherspoon and also trying
29:59
Speaker 1: on Arnold, but I think we're gonna hold him over
30:02
Speaker 1: into the next segment, so we'll talk about those two
30:06
Speaker 1: contractual decisions that took place over the weekend. Certainly we
30:10
Speaker 1: need huge thoughts on that before this Monday morning quarterback
30:14
Speaker 1: session comes to a close. But let's stick with the
30:16
Speaker 1: game for now. Give me a few other things you
30:20
Speaker 1: that stood out to you about Saturday night.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think defensively, probably the very first impression I
30:27
Speaker 3: had was Noah Igbinoghny playing as the the Nicol Sam
30:33
Speaker 3: and that is the position the Nick Iman Worri plays,
30:39
Speaker 3: and so one could assume that if you had to
30:43
Speaker 3: line up, you know, tonight or Saturday night and play
30:47
Speaker 3: real football, that he he is in a battle, apparently
30:50
Speaker 3: with the Anthony Bell for that spot. But I think
30:56
Speaker 3: that his you know, he really kind of made a presence.
30:59
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be part of this football team.
31:01
Speaker 3: And and when you see him lined up on the
31:04
Speaker 3: outside now it happened to have been against Marcus Valdez Scandling,
31:10
Speaker 3: who we know he's been on eight teams at age
31:12
Speaker 3: thirty one. But he's covering a go route on perfectly
31:17
Speaker 3: up the sideline. But he's also playing, you know, in
31:21
Speaker 3: the slot and playing, you know, showing some versatility. There's
31:25
Speaker 3: been a lot of you know, a lot of chatter.
31:28
Speaker 3: I was hoping to find Bud Clark some opportunities for
31:34
Speaker 3: him and what would he be in there? But he
31:36
Speaker 3: was more of a Kobe Bryant replacement than he was
31:41
Speaker 3: a you know, down in the box type of guy.
31:44
Speaker 3: So the ball just didn't find him. Yeah, but you
31:47
Speaker 3: know that that's some of the thoughts I had on defense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I noticed that IgG Monogay play as well.
31:54
Speaker 1: And I also love saying the name, so I hope
31:56
Speaker 1: he sticks around.
31:58
Speaker 3: All right, what about it? Do you do? You're for professional?
32:00
Speaker 3: I'm a rank amateur at this this radio stuff, and
32:04
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just gonna go eggy or I'm gonna go
32:07
Speaker 3: seventeen or whatever. Just but I do not need to
32:11
Speaker 3: be saying that every Monday morning.
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Speaker 2: You're one for one so far this season, so you're good,
32:17
Speaker 2: you nailed it.
32:18
Speaker 3: Retire while I bat in a thousand.
32:21
Speaker 2: All right, what about then on the offensive side of
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Speaker 2: the ball.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think that Elijah Royo is on
32:30
Speaker 3: my mind watching the tape because here's a guy coming
32:33
Speaker 3: out of Miami runs like a receiver on tape. You know,
32:38
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, high end potential for him
32:42
Speaker 3: because of that, But there's some things I just feel
32:46
Speaker 3: like he is desperately in need of coaching and and
32:50
Speaker 3: maybe maybe a little bit of a I don't want
32:53
Speaker 3: to say attitude adjustment, that that'd be overreaching, but watching
32:56
Speaker 3: him block was just painful. He has got to he's
33:01
Speaker 3: got to pick it up. And you know, he comes
33:03
Speaker 3: across as a puller and when he uh is, you know,
33:08
Speaker 3: starts chopping his feet before contact, and you know, it's
33:13
Speaker 3: just a a conspicuous lack of physicality. I'm not gonna
33:18
Speaker 3: say that he's not tough, but on that play he
33:23
Speaker 3: shows shows all the signs of got of a guy
33:27
Speaker 3: who's not tough. And again, I hope there's a semantic distinction.
33:30
Speaker 3: He's got to pick that up. And then, you know,
33:32
Speaker 3: running as much as they want to run the outside zone,
33:35
Speaker 3: running the stretch to him, watching his technique, putting his hand,
33:39
Speaker 3: his head down, you know, not even seeing uh, you know,
33:42
Speaker 3: a narrow base instead of a wide low base, like
33:45
Speaker 3: there's there's the the you know, the the blocking was
33:48
Speaker 3: really subpar. And then while I see elements, he had
33:54
Speaker 3: a nice, beautifully designed play, arguably one of the best
33:57
Speaker 3: plays of the night. He catches the ball over the middle.
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Speaker 3: When he gets going, the athleticism pops. But there's things
34:05
Speaker 3: a tight end is gonna run, you know, routes within
34:07
Speaker 3: five yards where he chatters his feet too much, his
34:10
Speaker 3: shoulders come up. I think he's an easy cover. And
34:14
Speaker 3: so I'm a little disappointed where we are at this
34:17
Speaker 3: stage in the game. With Eliza Arroyo, now Jake Ferguson
34:22
Speaker 3: a tight end for the Cowboys. He only had one
34:25
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy four yards receiving him. By the way,
34:28
Speaker 3: Arroyo had one hundred and seventy nine. Ferguson one hundred
34:30
Speaker 3: and seventy four. His first year, then he popped his
34:33
Speaker 3: seven sixty one. Trey McBride had two sixty five for
34:37
Speaker 3: the Cardinals in year one, then eight to twenty five.
34:40
Speaker 3: Second year, Cole Comet had two forty three, then six twelve.
34:44
Speaker 3: So there we can point to several tight ends who
34:48
Speaker 3: really had nondescript rookie years and had a nice bounce
34:51
Speaker 3: in year two. Let's hope obviously that Royo has that
34:54
Speaker 3: he has the physical ability, but right now his football
34:57
Speaker 3: play needs to improve, my opinion.
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Speaker 1: Interesting running backs, we were already a little concerned about,
35:04
Speaker 1: perhaps more so than we were about Arroyo. So did
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Speaker 1: you see anything promising Saturday from the group that took
35:11
Speaker 1: the field.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to just tell you my hunch. I
35:15
Speaker 3: couldn't really prove it in a quarter law, but I
35:17
Speaker 3: think what's going on with George Halane is something I've
35:21
Speaker 3: seen for forty years plus. When you get a guy
35:25
Speaker 3: who's really a good dude, a really good guy, the
35:30
Speaker 3: beat writers who are in the locker room, they they
35:34
Speaker 3: tend to want to favor him and and you know,
35:38
Speaker 3: maybe maybe kind of blow up, you know what they are,
35:41
Speaker 3: And I think that that's kind of might be going
35:44
Speaker 3: on with Halani. I will not debate you that Halani
35:48
Speaker 3: can be a valuable member of the Seattle Seahawks. He
35:51
Speaker 3: had kickoff return, he had over he had of all
35:54
Speaker 3: kickoff for turners that were over fifteen, which he's in
35:58
Speaker 3: that group. The average starting field position is at the
36:03
Speaker 3: twenty nine point eight yard and essentially the thirty yard line.
36:06
Speaker 3: Rashishi heat is at the thirty four year yard line.
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Speaker 3: He's fifth out of fifty eight qualifiers. Halani is fifty
36:13
Speaker 3: third out of fifty eight qualifiers rushing over twenty yards attempt.
36:17
Speaker 3: Ninety unqualified running backs yards per CA nine was at
36:21
Speaker 3: four point seven yards per attempt sharbonnety four point zero.
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Speaker 3: Halani's at three point one eighty fifth out of ninety
36:28
Speaker 3: running backs. But he was on nine different spots on
36:32
Speaker 3: the kickoff coverage, five different spots off on the kickoff return,
36:37
Speaker 3: ten different spots on punt return, two spots on the
36:42
Speaker 3: punt coverage. And so there's a versatility, a utility infielder
36:47
Speaker 3: quality to him, and a really good guy. But I
36:52
Speaker 3: will fight you on the beach if you think in
36:55
Speaker 3: your eyes, tell you that this guy he had twenty
36:58
Speaker 3: two cars last year, which in my opinion is probably
37:03
Speaker 3: three two many. If he has anything more than than
37:10
Speaker 3: in the teens in rushing carries this year, I think
37:14
Speaker 3: it's a problem for the Seahawks unless your eyes tell
37:17
Speaker 3: you something that my eyes don't tell me. I just
37:21
Speaker 3: I don't see a burst. I don't see great vision.
37:24
Speaker 3: I think that he is a third string running back,
37:27
Speaker 3: and I think that I think his tires are getting
37:30
Speaker 3: pumped up because he's a really good guy and he's
37:32
Speaker 3: really really versatile. But I'm that scares the hell out
37:35
Speaker 3: of me. I'll just talk about well, Hallani'll be fine.
37:39
Speaker 3: Go ahead, have that opinion. You asked me my opinion.
37:43
Speaker 3: I'm not close to that. So we got to get
37:45
Speaker 3: some running backs healthy because being a Super Bowl champion,
37:49
Speaker 3: trying to defend the Super Bowl title and handing the
37:53
Speaker 3: ball to thirty six, I don't see it. I'm sorry.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think John Schneider is gonna be
37:59
Speaker 1: the first iron line looking in at the running back
38:02
Speaker 1: store after that cut day in the National Football League.
38:06
Speaker 1: So even if Jadarian Prices does work out, I think
38:10
Speaker 1: he's desperate for a little more depth.
38:14
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I think Vellis Jones just you know, just
38:16
Speaker 3: kind of watching him you know his footnote, his lateral quickness.
38:20
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you'd be better off if you're
38:22
Speaker 3: playing varsity hardball, uh in in regular season. I mean,
38:28
Speaker 3: I'd rather give the ball to Bellas Jones. I think
38:30
Speaker 3: you'd get more out of it. So at an event,
38:33
Speaker 3: I'm I I'll praise Halani. Great teammate, great dude, very
38:39
Speaker 3: versatile player, No problem with him being a Seattle Seahawk.
38:42
Speaker 3: But we I don't know. I guess I'm repeating myself,
38:46
Speaker 3: but I'm looking forward to seeing Price in action when
38:49
Speaker 3: he's healthy.
38:50
Speaker 2: He's your Michael Rucker. That's I think that's what I
38:53
Speaker 2: took from that. All Right, we're going to continue with
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Speaker 2: Hugh Melan.
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Speaker 1: Great description anymore if we get to some more thoughts
39:06
Speaker 1: on Saturday's game, But certainly I want to bring back
39:09
Speaker 1: you for one more segment because two huge stories over
39:12
Speaker 1: the weekend. I mean, we've got we've shared our thoughts
39:15
Speaker 1: about Witherspoon in this contract situation, and also whether or
39:20
Speaker 1: not we should or shouldn't sign Terry and Arnold. Well
39:23
Speaker 1: now it's fact now they've both been signed, and so
39:27
Speaker 1: we'll get huge thoughts on those two subject matters. Next
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