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Understanding the Trauma-Addiction Connection · Wake Up with Marci

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wake Up with Marcy, a deep dive in
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  Speaker 1: self discovery. I'm your host, Marty Hopkins, and this is
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  Speaker 1: the space where we get real about life, transformation and
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  Speaker 1: finding our true selves. Hello, al, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Wake Up with Marcy, where we have real, raw conversations,
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  Speaker 1: explore radical healing, and help you to wake up to
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  Speaker 1: your worth. I'm your host, Marcy Hopkins, and today we're
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  Speaker 1: diving into something that affects millions, but it's still so
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  Speaker 1: often misunderstood. And that is the link between trauma and
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  Speaker 1: drinking to cope. This is a deeply personal topic for me,
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  Speaker 1: one that I've lived through, unraveled and healed from. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm here today not just to educate you, but to
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  Speaker 1: walk with you wherever you are on your journey. I
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  Speaker 1: want to meet with you because this is not an
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  Speaker 1: easy journey and it's not easy to understand. But I
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  Speaker 1: want you to know first and foremost that you are
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  Speaker 1: not alone and that your past does not define you.
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  Speaker 1: And I really hope for all of you that are
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  Speaker 1: listening and watching that this episode helps you on your
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  Speaker 1: path to understanding how trauma has affected you and why
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  Speaker 1: you are using alcohol to cope. So many of us
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  Speaker 1: struggle with alcohol, but there is a lot of us
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  Speaker 1: that just use it to relax. But for someone like
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  Speaker 1: me and maybe you, we're drinking to survive, We're drinking
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  Speaker 1: to forget. And for many, trauma is the reason we
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  Speaker 1: ever picked up up whatever substance or drink that you
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  Speaker 1: picked up in the first place. So let's talk about trauma.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly is that that's an emotional injury from overwhelming,
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  Speaker 1: painful experiences. So a trauma rewires the brain, especially around safety, fear,
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  Speaker 1: and self worth, and alcohol or drugs often become a
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  Speaker 1: way to self soothe when nothing else seems to help.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, the first time I actually drank was
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  Speaker 1: when I was twelve years old. Now I have kids
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  Speaker 1: that are now nineteen and twenty two, and I can't
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  Speaker 1: even imagine them drinking alcohol at the age of twelve.
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  Speaker 1: But in my situation with my mother and my stepfather,
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  Speaker 1: it was something that was normal. I even was offered
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  Speaker 1: alcohol at the age of twelve and thirteen when we
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  Speaker 1: went on a vacation. Now, this also was a time
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  Speaker 1: when sexual abuse had started with my stepfather, So drinking
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  Speaker 1: was so normalized for me and maybe your trauma came
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  Speaker 1: later in life, and it wasn't something that you dealt
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  Speaker 1: with when you were really young, but it's something that
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  Speaker 1: you started using whenever in your life, that you used
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  Speaker 1: to quiet those screams in your head, the unhealed trauma.
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  Speaker 1: I used it to forget. I used it forget to
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  Speaker 1: forget that childhood abuse, betrayal, to not feel safe in
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  Speaker 1: my own home, and I needed something to numb that pain,
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  Speaker 1: and throughout my life. Wasn't just when I was younger.
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  Speaker 1: I used wine. I drank every single day of my
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  Speaker 1: life because to me, it was just something normal that
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  Speaker 1: I did. It was pushing down that pain, sedating and
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  Speaker 1: quieting whatever it was inside of me that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to face. Now, there were times that my drinking
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  Speaker 1: looked normal, and there were times that I'm sure there
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  Speaker 1: are those around me that worried about me, but it
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  Speaker 1: was really hard for me to really know the difference, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: because my mom was an alcoholic, and I just knew
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  Speaker 1: that she had the bar so high of what drinking
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  Speaker 1: too much look like that I thought that I was
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  Speaker 1: doing pretty darn good. But there are a lot of
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  Speaker 1: ways that we can look for the signs that we
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  Speaker 1: are drinking for the wrong reasons. Now, obviously, if we're
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  Speaker 1: drinking and passing out all the time, blacking out, things
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  Speaker 1: are being affected in our lives, our relationships, our work,
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  Speaker 1: and so on. Those are definitely big red flags. But
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about drinking to cope, and this is about
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  Speaker 1: drinking to avoid feelings of anxiety, shame, or painful memories.
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  Speaker 1: This is something I did later on in my drinking.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't something I necessarily did throughout my time of drinking,
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  Speaker 1: which was the majority of my life. But at the
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  Speaker 1: end of my drinking around forty five forty six, I
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  Speaker 1: started hiding my drinking. So if that's something maybe that
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  Speaker 1: you're doing, you're hiding your drinking and you're feeling guilty
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  Speaker 1: about it. You need alcohol to sleep, socialize, get through
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  Speaker 1: the day. A lot of times we think that we're
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  Speaker 1: drinking to help us to sleep. The reality is, if
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  Speaker 1: you drink alcohol, it really does affect your sleep. You
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  Speaker 1: do not get into a deep rhythm of sleeping. And
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  Speaker 1: if we're not getting our sleep, it also affects how
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  Speaker 1: we feel and how we react to life during the day.
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  Speaker 1: And we think that we want to have that drink
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  Speaker 1: of wine or whatever it is that you are drinking,
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  Speaker 1: you can't wait to do it later on in the
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  Speaker 1: day so you can just calm yourself. Or maybe you
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  Speaker 1: think that drinking brings you back to life. You feel
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  Speaker 1: emotionally numb without it, and you think if you drink,
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  Speaker 1: that brings out who you are a good I'll never
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  Speaker 1: forget being out and just saying, like, my husband has
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  Speaker 1: no idea who I am. I'm this fun, lovable person.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality was I was out drinking, way too buzzed,
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  Speaker 1: going to clubs at an age that I shouldn't have been,
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  Speaker 1: so I was acting out. My drinking wasn't normal, but
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  Speaker 1: my excuse was my husband was basically no fun and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't know the fun side of me. I used
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  Speaker 1: to tell myself each day that I drink, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a glass of wine. But then of course it becomes
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  Speaker 1: more than one glass of wine. Okay, But being honest,
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  Speaker 1: every drink I took came with the price. It took
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  Speaker 1: my peace away. I wasn't being truthful in life. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't really truly feeling. I wasn't connecting with myself. I
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  Speaker 1: was hating myself. I had shame. I had guilt for
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  Speaker 1: the woman that I had become. I didn't think that
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  Speaker 1: I had anything to offer. I didn't know who I was.
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  Speaker 1: All I wanted was to be loved, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what that looked like because I hadn't been shown
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  Speaker 1: healthy love. I had the abuse. My mother didn't take
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  Speaker 1: me out of the home where I could feel I
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  Speaker 1: never felt safe. Then I was in bad relationship. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't allow people to treat me the way that I
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  Speaker 1: should have been treated because or I didn't set my
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  Speaker 1: boundaries or expect it from people because I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: what that looked like. And it's so important to know
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  Speaker 1: that once we start healing and we stop coping negatively
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  Speaker 1: and telling ourselves all these lies that we do, reconnect
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  Speaker 1: with ourselves and we begin to heal. So what really
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  Speaker 1: helped me was getting real, raw and truthful. So the
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  Speaker 1: first time I admitted my truth was October third, twenty fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: That was the last day I drank, and I woke
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  Speaker 1: up the next day. It was October fourth. I woke
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  Speaker 1: up in so much shame, guilt, dread. The night before
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  Speaker 1: I had gotten a DUI. There's a much longer story
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  Speaker 1: that surrounds that, but I went to bed that victim
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  Speaker 1: that I always had been. And I woke up the
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  Speaker 1: next day and I finally got honest with myself and
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  Speaker 1: surrendered to the fact that I needed help, that I
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  Speaker 1: had alcohol use disorder. Okay, this is a disease of
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  Speaker 1: the brain. It is a large spectrum, but there should
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  Speaker 1: be no shame around it. And that's why I have
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  Speaker 1: these conversations to break the stigma and normalize the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: because we've got to get educated, every one of us
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  Speaker 1: out there, whether we are dealing with it ourselves. So
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  Speaker 1: we're the ones that are dealing with alcohol use disorder
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  Speaker 1: or somebody else close to us. We all know someone.
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  Speaker 1: So just think about it, how important this conversation is
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  Speaker 1: and how important you are. There is something that is
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  Speaker 1: wrong with you, but it's a disease, and that disease
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  Speaker 1: can be healed, just like any disease. So the next
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  Speaker 1: thing I did was I went to the twelve step program.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you that first time I went
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  Speaker 1: to the well, actually this was my second time going
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  Speaker 1: into the twelve step meetings because a year prior i'd
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  Speaker 1: gone in to AA, but I really wasn't ready. I
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  Speaker 1: really didn't believe it. Yeah, I was dealing with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of shame and guilt and up overnight trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how I could healthy drink. But the reality was,
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  Speaker 1: I really wasn't ready. And you've got to be really
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  Speaker 1: ready to dive into a program or any way that
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  Speaker 1: you choose to navigate your addiction. You've got to truly
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  Speaker 1: be ready. So I was finally ready to surrender, to
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  Speaker 1: admit that I needed help, and I was willing to
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  Speaker 1: do whatever that I needed to do. So I went
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  Speaker 1: to the twelve step meeting. And let me tell you,
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  Speaker 1: before I went to that meeting, not only did I
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  Speaker 1: have to get truthful with myself, but it was so
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  Speaker 1: important that I got truthful with my husband. And I did,
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  Speaker 1: and it was hard. This is not easy stuff we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, listen, I was at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: of the barrel. I thought that I had no worth
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  Speaker 1: in this world, even though that two magical kids, I
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  Speaker 1: had a beautiful home, I had a husband living in
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  Speaker 1: a great community. Like I was. I had a big
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  Speaker 1: pity party going on around me. Okay, But when I
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  Speaker 1: got honest with myself and then I got honest with
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  Speaker 1: my husband, he did something that surprised me and that
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think would happen. He ended up embracing me,
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  Speaker 1: telling me that he loved me, and I felt like
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  Speaker 1: the weight of the world came off my shoulders. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe for you, that could be a parent or a friend,
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  Speaker 1: somebody at church. But there's somebody that's waiting for you
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  Speaker 1: to come to them and share with them. They're ready
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  Speaker 1: for you to admit your truth and they're ready to
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  Speaker 1: step up to help you. Now, there are many ways
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  Speaker 1: that we can get help. And like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: went to the twelve step program. I mean even the
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  Speaker 1: first meeting I went to, after I really really got
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  Speaker 1: raw and honest with myself, I ended up getting sick
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  Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Sick in the bathroom. I mean, could
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  Speaker 1: my shame and guilt get any worse? I was mortified,
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  Speaker 1: But you know what, I washed my face and I
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  Speaker 1: went back out there and I sat down because it
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  Speaker 1: was time. It was I was ready, okay. And there's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of things that you learn
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  Speaker 1: through this process that are going to help you. Now. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: there are sober coaches out there, there are online meetings,
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  Speaker 1: there are books you can read, there's rehab, which is
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  Speaker 1: really important. And this is something that I want you
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  Speaker 1: to really really ask yourself if you are active, how
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  Speaker 1: much am I drinking? And if you are drinking morning,
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  Speaker 1: day and night. Okay, if you are drinking excessively, if
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  Speaker 1: you drink more than four to five drinks three or more,
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  Speaker 1: you really need to talk to a doctor. And you
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  Speaker 1: cannot detox on your own. It is so so important.
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  Speaker 2: That you go to rehab or you go where a
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  Speaker 2: safe place that they can help you to detox, because
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  Speaker 2: you can die if you try to do this on
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  Speaker 2: your own.
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  Speaker 1: Because you have to remember, your body is physically addicted
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  Speaker 1: to that alcohol and doesn't think it can live without it,
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  Speaker 1: so your body could shut down. So please make sure
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  Speaker 1: that you talk to someone that can help you. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So if you are in the twelve step meeting, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to encourage you to get a sponsor. This is
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  Speaker 1: something that's really important and can be difficult. But this
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  Speaker 1: person is somebody that has gone through the program, gone
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  Speaker 1: through the big Book, and they're going to help you
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  Speaker 1: to go through the program and go through that big book. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So you're going to look to them as your mentor
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  Speaker 1: and they're going to help you step by step. But
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  Speaker 1: this could be a hard process to find the right
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  Speaker 1: person for you. So don't feel guilty or bad if
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  Speaker 1: you feel like that person's not working out for you,
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  Speaker 1: because believe me, I had one sponsor and she was
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  Speaker 1: so hard on me. I remember telling her like she
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  Speaker 1: was telling me I couldn't go to a part of
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  Speaker 1: my home because she said that that would be a
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  Speaker 1: trigger for me. And I was telling her honestly, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not being triggered by going in this room, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I told her because every time I would talk
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  Speaker 1: to her every single day, I said, you make me
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  Speaker 1: want a drink. So obviously, big red flag, right, not
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  Speaker 1: the right sponsor for me. But there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people in the rooms. So build a community. Maybe AA
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  Speaker 1: is not for you, but find a community like minded
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  Speaker 1: people that can help you go through this experience because
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  Speaker 1: you're going to need the help. You're going to build
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  Speaker 1: a sobriety toolbox. This consists of a ton of different
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  Speaker 1: things that can help you when you're triggered. You want
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  Speaker 1: to change people, places, and things. Meditation, gratitude box. This
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  Speaker 1: is where you find things you're grateful for during the day, journaling,
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  Speaker 1: a morning routine, a community. What you can do if
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  Speaker 1: you have a craving there's many things that you will
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  Speaker 1: be learning through a sobriety box, okay, creating your own
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  Speaker 1: sobriety box what works for you, and also knowing that
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  Speaker 1: sobriety is not the end. It is the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the most beautiful life. I promise you. I'm almost ten
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  Speaker 1: years sober. October fourth, twenty twenty five. I'm ten years sober,
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  Speaker 1: and I am living the best, most magical life. I've
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  Speaker 1: healed from my trauma. I've made so many changes in
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  Speaker 1: my life. I've shifted my mindset. I don't talk negatively
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  Speaker 1: to myself anymore, and if I do, I know what
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  Speaker 1: to do with that. I know how to respond to people.
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  Speaker 1: I know how to have patience. I'm spiritually connected. Like,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many beautiful things that you're going to learn,
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  Speaker 1: because recovery doesn't mean you're weak. It means you're strong
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  Speaker 1: enough to stop pretending. Stop pretending that everything's all right. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So a few tools that you can use today are
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  Speaker 1: mindfulness practices to ground you in the moment. These are
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  Speaker 1: breathing exercises. These are short meditations. I myself go on YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many meditations that can help you with trauma.
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  Speaker 1: Can help you to calm your nervous system that can
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  Speaker 1: help you with sleep, connect to your higher power. There
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  Speaker 1: are so so many different YouTube videos, meditations, all different purposes,
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  Speaker 1: all different links. And then journaling, And I want to
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  Speaker 1: offer these things to you because I myself have created
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  Speaker 1: one sheets that I would love to share with you.
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  Speaker 1: Journaling prompts for emotional release. These are things that are
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  Speaker 1: so important for you to build and have because we
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to write. Sometimes maybe you don't need
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  Speaker 1: to know what to write. You just start writing right,
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  Speaker 1: and then you're gonna need daily rituals, gratitudeless warning check ins,
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  Speaker 1: breath work. Like I talked about your support groups, AA,
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  Speaker 1: sober circles, online communities, talking to a professional, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you've experienced trauma. I mean, I would say therapy is
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  Speaker 1: so so vital through all of this because it's not
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  Speaker 1: about just putting down the drink. It's about all the
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  Speaker 1: work that goes on after it to heal, to change,
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  Speaker 1: to shift how you live and how you think. So
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to know that no one heals alone.
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  Speaker 1: You deserve to be supported, seeing and heard healing as possible,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't need to have it all figured out
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, and you don't need to have it all
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  Speaker 1: figured out to begin who does, right. So another thing
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to have to do is talk to
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  Speaker 1: our family, right, We've got to be honest, but you
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  Speaker 1: could set your boundaries, okay, And if you're a family
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  Speaker 1: member or a loved one that's dealing with addiction, just
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  Speaker 1: know that you cannot heal them, You can't make them
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  Speaker 1: get well. Just be there to support to support them.
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  Speaker 1: And also if you're talking to a family member, explain
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  Speaker 1: that you're on this healing path, right, and to be kind.
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  Speaker 1: You need to be kind to yourself and you need
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  Speaker 1: your family to be kind and realize also that and
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  Speaker 1: this is something for those that are going through this
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  Speaker 1: path of healing and also family members. If there's a relapse,
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  Speaker 1: don't punish the person and don't punish yourself. Just start
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  Speaker 1: over the next day. Start over the next day. And
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  Speaker 1: if it's with kids, keep it age appropriate. If they're
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  Speaker 1: really young, Mommy, daddy's sick, they need to get some help.
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  Speaker 1: If they're older, you can begin to become more honest
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  Speaker 1: with them about what's going on because they're going to
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  Speaker 1: see you doing things right. Maybe you're not able to
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  Speaker 1: drive them. Maybe you're passing out on the couch. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you are being very embarrassing by your actions. So just
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  Speaker 1: remember children are brilliant. They see what is happening, so
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  Speaker 1: our honesty because that scares them. Our honesty is so important.
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  Speaker 1: But again, just be age appropriate and let your family
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  Speaker 1: in gently, okay, because they may really surprise you. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening to this and wondering if you drink
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  Speaker 1: to cope, know that you're not alone and you're not broken.
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  Speaker 1: You are carrying pain that deserves healing, not judgment. The
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  Speaker 1: bravest thing I ever did was admit I needed help,
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  Speaker 1: and the most beautiful thing that followed was finding myself,
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  Speaker 1: finding self love, finding gratitude for life, forgiving myself and
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  Speaker 1: forgiving others. So I want to thank you all so
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  Speaker 1: much for joining me today. I mean, what an amazing,
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  Speaker 1: amazing time with you. I feel like I'm sitting in
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  Speaker 1: the room with you. And if this episode has resonated
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  Speaker 1: with you, share it with someone you love, share it
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  Speaker 1: with someone who needs it, and let's continue breaking the
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  Speaker 1: stigma around addiction, trauma and healing. And if you're walking
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  Speaker 1: this journey, I want to remind you that you are strong,
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  Speaker 1: that you are beautiful, and you are capable. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to also let you know that my book Chaos to Clarity,
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  Speaker 1: Seeing the Signs and Breaking the Cycles is here as
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  Speaker 1: a companion to help you to see the signs, break
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  Speaker 1: the cycles, and step into your worth. I share everything
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  Speaker 1: I've learned through the twelve steps my trauma, how I
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  Speaker 1: recovered my addiction, what I went through the recovery, how
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  Speaker 1: I shifted my mindset. I educate you, I give you prompts,
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  Speaker 1: action items. I have shared with you everything that I
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  Speaker 1: believe can help you through this process until next time.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to keep walking, keep healing, and keep
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  Speaker 1: remembering that you are worth every beautiful gift this life
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  Speaker 1: is capable of giving you. And I also wanted to
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  Speaker 1: let you guys know that I am going to be
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  Speaker 1: releasing a new book in April of twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: called Unbroken, a Companion for the first thirty days of sobriety.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm here to help you. I'm here to walk
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  Speaker 1: this journey with you. I'm here to listen, be kind yourself,
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  Speaker 1: and let's wake up to our worth. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. Have an amazing one.