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Trade intel On New Eagles WR John Metchie III – Will He Make The 53? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on? Everybody is
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  Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan, and man, we got an action
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  packed inside the Birds because the Birds stay busy, Adam.
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  They are one of the most active teams at every
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  time in the calendar year to cover. So not only
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  do we have their preseason game to give intel on
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  discuss that, but then on Sunday they make a very
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  interesting trade that we're gonna go really inside, obviously, getting
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  Johnny Metchi from the Texans in exchange for Harris and Bryant.
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  We'll get into all the particulars of that, but you know,
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  even as we go through that, then Bam, camp is
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  gonna pick right up and before you know what, the
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  third preseason game and then the cutdown date is going
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  to be upon us. And that's the way it goes
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  in training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Meschi will see if Mechi will go into the
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  trade in medimal see if he's there today because they
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  they play Friday, walk through Thursday, practices Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday,
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  so he'll get some practice time in. And then the
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  question is what could have given a package to play
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  for Friday's game. They got to they kind of got
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  to get to know him very quickly. But yeah, that
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  was interesting. Another trade with the Texans man Nick Casserio
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  and Howie Roseman. The way it works is, folks, teams
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  have trade calls this time of year because they try
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  to see, Okay, who's available, who are you cutting? You
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  might ask about a player because you know that guy's
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  a third stringer or like with Mechi's case, it was
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  very questionable whether he's going to make the team. Harrison
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  Brian almost certainly wasn't going to make the team. So
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  and we'll get into what why both teams made in
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  all that, what we think, what we've heard, cash and
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  stuff like that, but it's always interesting, you know, it's
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  it's extremely a minor trade.
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  Speaker 3: But John Metchi was his second round pick.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's been a long time ago and there's
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  been some problems, but really good person. It's a shame,
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  you know, he had to go with what he went through.
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  Speaker 3: Helpful us but.
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  Speaker 2: He's doing great from one understand and we'll see what
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  happens here. But yeah, certainly when it broke what Sunday
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  afternoon was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely interesting and par for the course for
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  the Eagles. Just a few notes before we get started. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, people are they keep asking.
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  Speaker 2: We're like, hey, you know we we we just talked
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  the first two games, and.
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  Speaker 3: People showed up.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't sure if they show up, but two twenty
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  five Eastern on Saturday, they showed up.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually pretty good crowd.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. You know, the interest right now, it's sky high.
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  Everybody loves preseason, that loves training camp, and they love
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  figuring out those bottom roster spots. So and we listen,
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  we've got a couple of weeks here left, so we'll
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  talk about the preseason game and what that showed us
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  as well. Uh, the Mechi trade, So let's get it.
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  The funny if you're being a cynic or you're just
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  like making fun of a mid camp trade, you're like, oh,
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  this is a let's trade our guy who's not going
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  to make our roster but might make yours for your
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  guy who's not gonna make your roster, but Mike might
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  Mike ours. But the reality is, I mean, we were
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  talking about this from a Harrison Bryan standpoint last week.
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  We were sort of like, why is he even running
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  with the twos? Because in camp he's not even doing that.
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  He's not really producing much. He's almost invisible, hasn't caught
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  a lot of passes. Kylon Grantson has been playing not
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  only on tight end as well, but also on kickoff
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  coverage and punt coverage and special teams, which sometimes shows
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  you a guy who has a leg up there. But
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  it was clear Harrison Bryant wasn't gonna make this team man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And now a couple of things here.
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  Speaker 2: The Titans left brevn Jordan, their number two tight end
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  for the season, doing a severeknear injury, so they did
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  a third tight end when Bryant was in. It was
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  mostly as a backup why tight end to Dallas Goddard
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  does bot f the why and the other position that
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  they have, but in Calcaterra just doesn't block well off.
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  Speaker 3: And Brian actually came in. I think got my notes.
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  Speaker 2: I think he came in the first quarter on a
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  block and play. Kylein Granson is a better athlete, but
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  he doesn't block as well.
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  Speaker 3: And E. J.
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  Speaker 2: Jenkins says both. So someone had to go. And if
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  you're the Texans, you've got to have someone who's played before.
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  You need someone who's been there and done that. Harrison
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  Bryant's the one guy who had experience because if you
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  look at it, they've got Dalton Schultz clearly their story.
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  He got his contract extension. Kate Stover was a fourth
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  runner last year. Hasn't developed yet. Remember IRV Smith junior
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  unfortunately just has not been able to develop. You know,
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  he's been with a number of teams. I remember his
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  dad or senior for the Saints and Dolphins. But so
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  they needed a veteran tight end and that was it.
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  I totally get it from their stand but that's obvious. Now,
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  why would the Eagles want John MATCHI wasn't that they
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  needed another receiver if you look at it right, and
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  nice Smith didn't really play last season. Garris Cooper's been
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  the Darling Lett camp. Hasn't played, It hasn't played Terras,
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  Marshall has playing experience. Every Wims hasn't done anything as
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  a receiver. Logic, Cooks just got back, he didn't play.
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  Johnny Wilson's only had one year of playing experience. So
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  behind the top three, what do you have here? Not
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  a whole lot of experience. And there's this saying Bill
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  Polling told me this, and I use this as a guide.
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  You never turned down an upgrade. Right, it's John MITCHI
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  Talon and every backup receiver they have. That's not even
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  that to me. Other than Dotson, who was a first
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  round pick. He's better than Wilson and I Smith, Cooper
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  and Marshall, Avery Williams. Now, why was John Metchie available?
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  You know, he missed his first year due to leukemia.
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  He also came off the a c L injury I
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  believe his last year at Alabama, so he got over
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  all that. I'm so glad that he's doing well physically
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  and he's healthy, but he hasn't really played a lot.
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  He only played he's only played two years in the
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  NFL missus rookie season. Uh, he did play last year
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  he had they had a bunch of injuries, had to play.
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  It just it's never worked out for him. It's and
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  they you know, you go back to Houston. Tank Dell
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  probably not going to play this season, but they have
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  Niico Collins as a stud. They traded for Christian Kirk.
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  They drafted Jayden Higgins, They signed Justin Watson, who's who
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  could run. Jalen Wa was a third round pick. Xavier
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  Hutchinson was a six round pick two years ago. He
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  played a lot last year. It was gonna be hard
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  for Metch to make the team. So this is so
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  obvious why the Eagles made this trade. Not maybe at
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  first because I was like, wait a minute, why, and
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  then oh, yeah, upgrade.
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  Speaker 3: There there's your answer.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, right right, You're you're getting rid of a
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  guy who you were clearly sold on not making the team,
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  and you have an opportunity guy who could possibly again,
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  like you said, it's not guaranteed if if he balls.
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  And to go back to your point, yeah, Christian Kirk
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  playing the slot in Houston, I think really solidified that.
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  I mean, he's a pretty good receiver, Christian Kirk. So
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  it was, by the way, Mechi.
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  Speaker 3: Is the C.
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  Speaker 1: But I remember when coming out of college, even Greg
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  Cosell when we talked about him. He thought Mechi was
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  going to be more of a slot receiver than why
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  he's oute running well.
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  Speaker 2: He runs great routes and he's got good sary quickness.
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  He's not the biggest guy in the world, right and
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  you you know that that was a knock on him,
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  but man, it's he was a baller at Bama. Man,
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  the kick the kid could play now again, that was
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  then is now. They got to get him up to
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  speed this week. You want to get him to play
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  against the Jets on Friday night, and then you've got
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  the two post training camp weeks leading up to the season.
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  Being that they made the trade, it's likely he'll make
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  the team. It's not a lock. There's no guaranteed money.
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  He's on the Fani Vers rookie deal. If you look
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  at the money, the cash, Mechi's one point eight oh
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  five million. There's no guaranteed money. Harrison Bryant was making
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  one point one seven million, seven twenty fully guaranteed. The
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  Eagles were responsored forst thirty thousand dollars signing bonus. So,
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  but the Texans really need a tight end so that
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  I get that part of it. Yeah, we'll just say
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  we'll see, we'll see how Mechi looks. But again, it's
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  it's about a bit tentra upgrade. And I've never forget
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  when Bill told me that, because I'd asked him it
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  was related to something like this, like why would this
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  team made that trade and make that trade? And he goes, Oh,
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  if you can get an upgrade, you don't, it's a
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  no brainer. It's not a really hard conversation, right, Interesting, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It also shows you what hell he does well is
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  stockpile at positions and creates depth to where you can
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  make trades like this. I mean this is also sort
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  of like you trade Thomas Booker because you have a
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  lot of de tackles young who, like you traded trade
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  him to a team who needs a tackle. They don't
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  make the Raiders that deal if the Christian Wilkins thing
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  doesn't happen and they needed he tackled depth. So Booker
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  was perfect for them, and the Eagles were able to
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  get a corner who probably, like you know, probably will
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  make it. We'll see. I mean, he could fall in
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  his face, we don't know, but he's certainly in the mix.
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  And we'll get to that when we talk about the
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  preseason game, so interesting stuff there. There was one last
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  point I wanted to make on Oh, let's say he balls.
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  Let's say MITCHI does really well and makes a team.
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  What do you think this is bad for on the Eagles?
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  Because yeah, I feel like I'm Ania Smith and Johnny
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  Wilson are are draft picks who've had pretty good camps.
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  But how many Eagles are how many wide receivers are
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  going to keep well?
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  Speaker 2: Towris Marshall's been okay after coming back.
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  Speaker 3: He well, he was balling out that he got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: He mind, That's who came to my mind. I means Marshall.
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  Speaker 2: Now now we'll see. I don't people are concerned about
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  Darvis Cooper. I'm not personally. This is not a guy
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  you want to wave and hope that he passes through waivers.
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  Remember Joe Banner telling me, any player you wave if
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  you're willing to lose. This would be awful if they
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  if at the cutdown they cut Cooper, you subject to
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  waivers and he got claimed by someone else, that that
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  would that would keep me up at night. If IVE
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  was on a personnel staff, that would bother me. I
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  don't see it. Now, here's the question. We'll talk more
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  about this in three weeks when we get to our
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  cutdown shows.
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  Speaker 3: But I was thinking maybe they keep six.
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  Speaker 2: This this brings up a and I know it's hard
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  because he goes love keeping lineman with They kept seven
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  defensive tackles for about three weeks in twenty twenty three
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  and they traded go Tavi Street. So it's hard, man.
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  It's a numbers game, man, and you know you it's
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  not easy. Teams don't loo because why would you keep
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  six if you're only going to draft four or five?
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  Typically five? Well, I mentioned this about Darvis Cooper. Remember
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  Mechi's contracts up, Dodson's contracts up after the season. Marshall
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  is on a one year deal. Everyone's is a one
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  year deal. Where are you going past the season as
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  a backup receiver? They have nobody?
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  Speaker 1: True? True?
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  Speaker 3: You always have to think for it, always think for it. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely. So now he met you becomes what the how
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  many guys from Alabama they have on this team at
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  this point? Fourth? Fourth guy from Alabama? You got Dvante Smith,
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  got Landon Dickerson, you got Tyler Steen, and I consider
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  Jalen Hurts Oklahoma. But everybody he's like the only player
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  that people do that for. Oh he's Alabama, right, every
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  other player who's been to like two or three school
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  whatever you always say he came from the like, like
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  we don't say Lance Dixon de Penn STATEIU, he came
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  from Toledo, right, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Right, yeah, Dixon was with three schools.
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  Speaker 2: But Stein didn't play with him, but Dickerson looked it
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  up Smith and Dickerson did, right. Uh So yeah, and
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  I'm sure Jalen knows him. So this is uh, this
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  is interesting. Uh uh, he's a really good kid match up.
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  So base the notes that have sent to me. Let's
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  see one of the top Z receivers for the twenty
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  twenty two drafts, second round forty fourth overall, five eleven
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  and a quarter one to ninety. Not frail, but not
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  not thick. So you know, that's why some people thought
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  he might have to play inside. Known for route running,
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  hands not sun but more quicker than fast. Had his
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  shoulder injury late last season. Does not return punch kicks,
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  but could cover on specials played. I think he led
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  them in snaps for the first two preseason games at
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  receiver and led them in the yard. So he's an
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  interesting player. We'll see what happened. I love the smart
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  how he trade nothing to lose. So, by the way,
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  so the official trade was suming he passes the physical
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  as expected. Mechi, Eagles get Mechi in a six round
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  pick for next year and Harrison Bryant and they give
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  a fifth rounder for next year in Harrison Bryant.
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  Speaker 3: So they lose a round, big deal.
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  Speaker 2: They still have thirteen or they're they're projected to have thirteen,
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  is how he said, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, those picks were the picks that they
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  had already traded each other as part of the CJ.
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  Gardner Johnson trade. They're just it almost like it's almost
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  like they were very so the Kenyan Green thing didn't
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  work out, and why don't we just give our trades
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  bad money?
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  Speaker 2: That that that that's just ridiculous. But it's hey, it
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  is what it is. And I'm like, Eagle fans should
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  be excited about John Metchi.
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  Speaker 3: You have nothing to.
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  Speaker 2: Lose, right, I understand, you know, once you get to
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  the NFL, what you did in college doesn't matter. But
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  he was a second round pick and he's got a
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  lot of urgency here because he's on the finale, his
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  rookie deal. He's just trying to make it. So we'll
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  say and and again before we move on here very quickly.
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  You guys have six tight ends here, well they keep three,
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  that's the question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so that's good stuff. I am excited too,
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  because I really like I have a I really enjoy
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  watching like the great route runners of the league, and
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  Metchi is very good with his feet that you mentioned
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  at short area quickness, good routes. It's because a lot
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  of times guys who project to be a slot or
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  even a move z, if they think you're more slot,
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  don't go that high in the second round. But he
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  was a guy who could they I remember Scott saying
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  he could play on the outside as a Z and
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  that he was really an elite mover, like fluid mover
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  and could get himself open. And that's why he got
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  got drafted that high. So you're right, nothing to lose.
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  And if he's healthy and he's strong and you know,
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  fits in, he can make some noise here. He's got
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  plenty of time. Was still three weeks to go, all right,
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  let let's get into the what we know about the
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  second preseason game. It was not a very pretty game.
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  In fact, I feel like this is the second time
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  the Browns and Eagles have played one of the ugliest
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  preseason games I've ever seen in my life. If you
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  would have told me the Eagles would not get one
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  hundred total yards in this game, I would say, come on.
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  But they did not. They did not even generate one
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  hundred total offensive yards. The quarterbacks were not great. I
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  know a lot of people like to say, well, they're
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  behind the third string offensive line. Well, yeah, but they're
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  also going up against you know, second and third stingers
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  by the second half. Anyway, It's just it was not
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  a I think the issue with dtr Adam, even though
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  he had some really nice camp practices, now you've got
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  him in a game environment. Now you've got him seeing
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  a different defense, and his pocket poise and awareness or
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  lack thereof really stands out in these moments because if
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  he could just sort of climb a little bit, I mean,
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  his arm is nice, he can make throws, but he
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  will crumble when that pocket starts to pinch around him.
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  And you saw some deflective passes and just some some
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  skittishness there.
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  Speaker 3: It was ugly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the coaching termis feel it, don't see it. I
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  use that one for you or somebody game, and I
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  think it's it totally encapsulates what you just said. You
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  have to play. You have to have a sense of timing. Okay,
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  I better get rid of it or else. And you
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  don't ever see the rush. You want to feel it,
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  and he just didn't do a good.
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  Speaker 3: Job of it.
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  Speaker 2: If McCord had a touchdown pass, of course it nice.
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  Smith had to reach back for it. You want to
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  put it out for him.
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  Speaker 3: That's a that's a truth. That's where the pass was.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, uh yeah, I didn't Cord's touchdown
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  drive was. It probably stuck out to people because he
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  took over immediately and then he goes downfield and they
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  score a touchdown. But you know, it wasn't like the
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  most impressive drive. And you're right that pass was thrown around.
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  If anything, I thought that the touchdown catch showed the
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  value of having a true slot like a NYA Smith
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  because unlike some pre unlike some preseason games where you
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  know a team's not gonna play that kind of defense
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  against that kind of formation, that was a spread like
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  two by two, I believe, and you saw you see
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  this all the time. Teams play man in the low
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  red zone because I really want to blitz a lot.
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  And so when you have a Nia Smith in the
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  slot on the left side like he was in a
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  man I'm in situation, he gets to run a two
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  way and you saw him break quick out and then
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  in and catch that slant. Those are the type of
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  plays that team's beat the Eagles with last year with
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  when they got CJ. Gardner Johnson matched up against the
• 16:57
  slot receiver. Right. Remember how we said CJ gave up
• 16:59
  about five or six low red zone touchdowns, So.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Then he cleaned it up there. Then he cleaned it up.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they did, they moved they well, you know
• 17:06
  obviously Coopy did. Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah yeah. Although
• 17:10
  the Washington game, I think he got the second one,
• 17:12
  the one they lost. But either way, the point is
• 17:14
  that's the value of a NYA Smith because if you
• 17:17
  put Johnny Wilson in the slot there, I think it's
• 17:19
  a little bit of a harder two way go. You
• 17:21
  can use him on a fade, but that's a lower
• 17:23
  percentage pass than just a two way go bam wide
• 17:26
  open like that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: By the way, to you may how you said it
• 17:29
  was ugly. Do you remember that? You know it was
• 17:31
  super ugly about that game two years ago in Philly
• 17:33
  against Cleveland. Oh man, uh, it was the dreaded tie. Oh,
• 17:41
  but a couple of things here. Tanner McKee had a
• 17:44
  really pretty good game. He ten for eighteen a touchdown.
• 17:48
  Here are your running backs for Shot Penny before he retired.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about two years ago?
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Trey Sermon, Kennedy Brooks, Yeah, you
• 17:59
  like that, Tyre Jackson for another return for him. Joe
• 18:04
  and Gotto was not in the league. I don't think
• 18:05
  Greg Ward one of the fifty times he was on
• 18:07
  the Eagles. Oh my god, Alamide Sakias, Oh, here you go,
• 18:13
  Devin Allen. You know with his situation tyr Cleveland. There's
• 18:18
  who is Arnold d Arnold?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Who the hell was Arnold Darius Arnold? No, oh, I
• 18:23
  can see it. I don't remember his name.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Oh, Dan Arnold, the tight.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: End, Yeah, the tight end. That's right, that's right. I
• 18:34
  don't believe Ward was still so Brett Toff is becoming
• 18:38
  the Greg Ward of Julian Vandervelts.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe we didn't mention him that
• 18:44
  it's crazy with with Toth. We never brought up Julian. Yeah,
• 18:48
  he he was very good on Twitter on that. So yeah,
• 18:50
  it look at our notes here. This is I thought
• 18:53
  this is interesting. Not that Dylan played a lot, but
• 18:55
  Chipley didn't play. He's the two Dylan's the three only
• 18:58
  played six naps in the first quarter.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Pulled him. Charle Johnson took over for Dylan.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: That's up.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Nice runs. One six yard run was nice.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I agree, It's just okay.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they started eleven personnel. Wilsons, a, Nyas and
• 19:09
  Cooper started. You mentioned to now here's the one that
• 19:12
  shocked me. I never saw Drew Kennell play left guard.
• 19:17
  It practiced at left guard at all, but he did
• 19:20
  in this game. He played left guard a little bit
• 19:21
  of left guard.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Woul Didn't he start camp as the third team left guard.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing it. Maybe you remember it. I
• 19:29
  don't remember seeing that. I talked to.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Told was the second team center when camp started, behind
• 19:36
  Cam Jurgens and then and Canard was still right on
• 19:39
  the right side and Stee not seeen. Kenyan Green opened
• 19:44
  as the third team left guard. So I think Kendall
• 19:47
  was the second team left guard, if I'm not mistaken,
• 19:50
  but as soon as they got him repping at center,
• 19:53
  he kind of stopped that.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Well, and remember Kegan had been in left guard. Maybe
• 19:57
  you're right, I don't recall that.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: But here's the I talked to someone in scouting with
• 20:01
  another team, So what did you have on on Conley Goes?
• 20:06
  He's not a guard, he's the center. He will never
• 20:07
  make it a guard at this league. I'm like, that's strong.
• 20:10
  You al ready know this Goes. Yeah, that's where we're
• 20:12
  scouting departs the guy. I guess the guy who's ever
• 20:15
  scouted him, and then whoever did the whoever else turn
• 20:19
  on grades. They just don't think he was functionally strong enough.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I just that a solid. It's weird because he's done
• 20:24
  nice yell.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Because I remember people saying that about Cam Jurgens when
• 20:29
  the Ugos played him at right guard and he was
• 20:31
  only a tight end and then a center and small
• 20:34
  at that at Nebraska, and people didn't and myself included,
• 20:37
  I said, this guy, he's barely three hundred pounds. He's
• 20:39
  going to struggle, but he he wound up like Jeff
• 20:41
  Stoutlin has been able to do this before. So I know,
• 20:43
  we'll see, we'll see. I mean, at least he doesn't
• 20:46
  have to start. I mean he's really just auditioning to
• 20:48
  be the backup left guard.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Well he's right now the back up. He's got to
• 20:53
  be the backup center, Drew Kennall. He's really come on, man,
• 20:56
  that Cincinnati game is really good. I know overall that
• 20:58
  their line didn't play for chickularly well, uh pass pro
• 21:01
  in particular, there were some issues. Yeah, so it's something
• 21:05
  they're gonna have to work on. But again, you're you're
• 21:07
  talking about backups, not starters.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Right right, Although if Landon Nickerson doesn't make it back
• 21:13
  for the season opener, then then it's a question who
• 21:16
  starts left guard?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And not good, that's you don't want to go there,
• 21:19
  You don't want to go there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if just based on you know,
• 21:24
  ear to the streets, if how we still wasn't done
• 21:28
  trying to improve areas that need depth and right now.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Oh of course that's what these trade By the way,
• 21:34
  that's what these trade calls are about.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: The every GM text, every GM were you light? Were
• 21:39
  you heavy?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And they ask about players and either they say, hey,
• 21:42
  call me back, right, you know, call me back in
• 21:45
  two weeks. We'll have a better answer for you. One
• 21:47
  more note about listen to this one. You'll never get this.
• 21:51
  Guess who just don't look it up. Guess who started
• 21:52
  on the give me I wouldn't have got one of them.
• 21:56
  Get you want to take a guess of their offensive
• 21:58
  line against Cleveland two years ago and the preseason game.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I can't believe this offense line two years ago. Well,
• 22:06
  I'm gonna guess Tooth was on it.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Nope, he didn't.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about starting starting, oh, starting offensive Well, you'll
• 22:12
  never get.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: If you get one, i'd be shocked.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you mean the first team are set, right, so
• 22:16
  the backups played?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I know, But again I won't believe this.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, So I guess Tooth wasn't one of them.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, how about how about the guy who was on
• 22:26
  injured reserve all last year from the Colts. What was
• 22:30
  his name? I can't think of it. You know what
• 22:32
  I'm talking about? No, do you know what I'm talking
• 22:34
  about though? Josh shild No, the offensive lineman they got
• 22:38
  from the Colts who played like a little bit of tackle,
• 22:41
  mostly guard, but he was on injured reserve practice squad.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Oh the tall guy, well, Raven Clark. No. But the
• 22:47
  reason why I said it is Josh Shill started left guard.
• 22:50
  Oh man, guess where Stein started? You might get this
• 22:56
  right tackle. Yep, okay, this one, and I vague I
• 23:00
  do remember this guy coming back. I just should have
• 23:02
  gave the hint. Guess who started center?
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Don't look it, and I didn't.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking. Uh. This is a great one. Uh.
• 23:12
  Two years ago he came out.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Of it, kind of came out. He wasn't retiring, but
• 23:17
  no people thought he was retiring. Josh Andrews, Oh my god, Josh,
• 23:21
  I know, dude, this is crazy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Sue a Peeda right guard, you'll never get the left tack.
• 23:26
  If you get the left tackle, I'd be shocked. This
• 23:30
  guy's definitely not a left tackle. I'll just give you
• 23:31
  a hint. He's no longer on the team and he's
• 23:33
  coming back from I think an ankle surgery.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I got nothing Jack dress Star left.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: He's really not a left tackle.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Wow, that's crazy needlessness. That might have been
• 23:47
  a deeper, though offensive line than this year's version because
• 23:50
  Sue Opeta wound up making himself into a decent backup guard.
• 23:54
  And you know, we know Driscoll had plenty of starts
• 23:56
  in the league. Funny, that is really funny.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Hear the backups quick real quick are one of our
• 24:02
  favorite names of all time. Cameron Tom, not Tom Cameron,
• 24:05
  Cameron Tom yep, oh your guy, Julian good Jones and
• 24:10
  this guy this. When we sat when they brought him back,
• 24:13
  we said, this will never work because we we know
• 24:15
  he beat up physically Dennis Kelly. Remember, yes, I remember,
• 24:19
  remember that I had I had imagined because this is
• 24:21
  fun anyway.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't, but I didn't think. Listen, the
• 24:25
  Browns played a lot of starters, not all of them.
• 24:28
  They played starters on defense. And you know, I didn't
• 24:31
  think the Eagles offensive line was awful or terrible. I
• 24:34
  just think that they had a couple of issues at
• 24:35
  times in past pro But I thought both of the
• 24:37
  quarterbacks at times also held on to the ball a
• 24:40
  little a long, so that that's gonna happen.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I don't let me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Let me I do not believe they played any starters.
• 24:47
  They did not play any starters on defense. I thought
• 24:51
  line Now the only guy Dian But okay, so Dian,
• 24:54
  I mean Devin Busch may be yeah, you know what, technically.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I know it's on offense, but caught a pass, so
• 25:03
  I know.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just talking about defense.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Uh, look like Sam Kamara, he's gonna make
• 25:09
  it the third edge. Casey he's a backup safety. Ronnie
• 25:16
  Hickman might not. Yeah, technically like Devin Bush and Jerome Baker, right,
• 25:21
  Schwesters is probably gonna start an yeah you could, let's
• 25:23
  put it this way there, some of their backups might
• 25:26
  be playing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but offensively, Finger is definitely a starter.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: He just needed right.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't start right, he didn't start, but he also
• 25:33
  didn't play. No. In fact, if you look at the starters,
• 25:35
  Greg Newsom starter did not play m.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Schwestinger didn't start, didn't play their offensive Lineman didn't play.
• 25:45
  But Garrett of course didn't play. Harrod Fanner junor why
• 25:48
  did he play? That was Mason Grahame didn't play. I
• 25:50
  was disappointed and Joker Uh Cedar Tillman, Yeah, I don't know,
• 25:58
  that was really interesting. I was surprised because Judy didn't play.
• 26:02
  Tilman should be starting. I don't know why he wouldn't
• 26:04
  be starting.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Did you say that Joku did not play?
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: No, David and Joko did not play.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: That's I must have got the uniform wrong because the
• 26:11
  play where Ojeli covered, that must have been eighty six then,
• 26:16
  because it looked like eighty five to me, and I
• 26:18
  thought it was an a Joku that that Ojeli covered
• 26:21
  and then made Gabriel hold onto the ball and then
• 26:23
  try to thread that window that what's his face picked
• 26:26
  that Jermacoba picked off. So maybe it was eighty six,
• 26:29
  but it looked like eighty five to me.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Here's a problem. See, here's an interesting thing. Dewan Jones
• 26:34
  might be their left tackle. He started, He he shouldn't
• 26:36
  be starting. He's really a right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Tackle, right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: They wanted him to get work.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Clear, exactly like the Eagles did with Beck. Then last
• 26:43
  summer he was the one only started to play on offense. Yeah,
• 26:47
  but yeah it was it look get so we'll finish
• 26:49
  off with defense. Haul in Hall's fine come back with
• 26:53
  shoulders wey, Thank goodness young and Robinson started, but gab
• 26:57
  Hall shows good for him. I'm so glad Clint Hurt
• 26:59
  was able to reach him. That's what we talked about
• 27:01
  last year was that the scouting term as he was
• 27:04
  low burned, low energy, needed to be pushed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Well, the light has gone on for this guy. He's
• 27:08
  got elite length.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Good story so far young and Robinson started at young
• 27:13
  just came up back from his scroin injury. But one
• 27:15
  of the good stories of the game is isjlari Is.
• 27:18
  He said, not look particularly great this summer, but man,
• 27:21
  he had at least, look at my notes, at least.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Three quality rushers.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: One sack Q orange are basically if you get close enough,
• 27:27
  if you look explosive. He had one where he completely
• 27:30
  where he beat the guy but the quarterback got rid
• 27:32
  of the football. Ouche started and then I just I'd
• 27:37
  say this before we move on from this needed to happen.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: He really needed. Not say they would have cut.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Him, but you needed to see some explosives from him,
• 27:45
  and you certainly saw.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: That it was his Patrick Robinson moment at him where
• 27:49
  he shook off the all the the being invisible of
• 27:52
  Actually Patrick Robinson was actually awful. Terri hasn't been awful,
• 27:56
  He's just been invisible, but he certainly came through.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Patrick Robinson was so bad.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It was one of the all time turnarounds in training camp,
• 28:05
  I'm like, wow, this Scott can't play anymore.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: And then I don't know what happened, Like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe they moved him to the slot. That's what happened.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Was that? What was he playing safety?
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: It was a magazine on outside us camp.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I didn't know. I don't I forgot but
• 28:20
  eight years ago. But man, he balled out and what
• 28:22
  a story he was. But look, well we'll see what
• 28:24
  happens here. So inside backers Trotter and Campbell started. Uh
• 28:30
  trot you know, there were a couple of places I'm
• 28:32
  sure he'd liked to have back Campbell's flashing. No decision
• 28:35
  has been made, but folks will continue to say this.
• 28:37
  First rounders don't sit if they're ready. That's just the
• 28:39
  way it works, right. See, if Campbell's ready to start
• 28:41
  or out, that'll be up to Vic.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought Mondon played a way better game than
• 28:46
  he did against the Bengals. He was ever. You know,
• 28:48
  he had those two consecutive stops to start the second half.
• 28:51
  Uh well, there was one play where he struggled to
• 28:54
  get off a block, but that was the third down
• 28:56
  run where it was like third and five and they
• 28:59
  went spread and then they did the draw, so they
• 29:02
  literally there was only one guy in the box and
• 29:04
  it was mccouba, and he had a tackle come out
• 29:06
  and cover him up. So that's not mccouba. I'm sorry.
• 29:09
  It was Mandan as the only guy in the box
• 29:11
  because they were in a pass heavy look, thinking that
• 29:14
  the Browns were going to pass the ball on third
• 29:16
  and five or third and six, whatever it was. So
• 29:19
  the Eagles do this to teams a lot. They'll spread
• 29:20
  it out third and six and they hand it off
• 29:22
  and use their big offensive line to get big yards.
• 29:25
  He used to do it under Doug Peterson all the
• 29:27
  time and get success with it, so I don't really
• 29:29
  blame him for not getting off. I think it was
• 29:31
  Dewan Jones's block there. That's tough, But in general, I
• 29:34
  thought the inside linebackers played well. I like that Vic
• 29:37
  showed you his signature sim pressure or creeper pressure if
• 29:41
  you will, which is you know Ojulari was dropping or
• 29:44
  no uce on that played dropped the second play of
• 29:46
  the game, and Campbell just shot the gap and you
• 29:48
  could see the beautiful Yeah, the protection scream of the
• 29:51
  Browns was not ready for that, and he went right
• 29:54
  through and got the sacks.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I can't wait if he's starting Week one, you know
• 29:58
  it's gonna I know Vic doesn't like the blitz, but
• 30:00
  I've talked about three years. Linebacker coaches love inside backers
• 30:04
  who can who can rush. It's it's such an added bonus. Yep,
• 30:08
  he doesn't have to line up outside. You could rush
• 30:10
  him from the inside, just like you talked about. Mom
• 30:12
  had actually played it. Tell you he played fifty percent
• 30:14
  of the snaps.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was good.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: You know, he's got really good length.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Not know, he's not a wide body, clearly not uh
• 30:22
  at safety mccouba and Brown started we know about Obviously
• 30:25
  he had the two big plays to pick six, the
• 30:27
  fumble recovery. But the thing with him is he plays
• 30:30
  downhill man. That this kid he could play nickel, he
• 30:33
  could cover. He had five picks last year. This kid's
• 30:37
  a player, man. He and the thing was, he's another guy.
• 30:40
  Second round picks typically don't sit if they're if they're
• 30:43
  if they're mentally ready. If if Vic thinks he's ready,
• 30:46
  he's better football player than Brown.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Let's call it like it is.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: He just has way more to him, especially in covers.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Than city does.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and look this thing is still going. If
• 30:56
  anybody thought that round one won this competition because mccoub
• 31:00
  was out for a little bit, Nope, it's a competition.
• 31:02
  And just like you said, with the first round pick,
• 31:04
  not always this case with the second round pick. But
• 31:06
  if it's tie, it's gonna go to Drew mccouba because
• 31:10
  he's the second round pick.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: People always ask I always hate this question. Who do
• 31:14
  they want to start? Of course, folks, they want this.
• 31:15
  The guy's the higher draft pick of who's making more money.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That's what they want and more years of cost control left,
• 31:20
  you know, right right, So, and this is Brown's third
• 31:24
  year was for year Rockie deal.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I'm glad he's healthy and it'll help them with special teams.
• 31:28
  But it Drew is just you see the way that
• 31:30
  he moves and great energy, super smart guy.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And look if if for the future, if they move
• 31:36
  coop to safety, mccoba could be their neco next year.
• 31:41
  We'll see what happens.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Plus, I do think that there's a there's potentially a
• 31:44
  role for it's not Sidney Brown has played fine, he's
• 31:46
  learning the defense. I think he's looked good. So if
• 31:49
  they want to play some versatile three safety packages. They
• 31:52
  have the ability to do that, getting Brown right, Yeah, absolutely.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: They don't really do that with Vick here. They haven't
• 31:57
  done really since Denver.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Probably haven't had like the personnel to do it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah ball the way mccollull had them and snaps. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: So and they know what he's a for safety, but
• 32:10
  that's you know, I know Vic likes him, but the
• 32:11
  reality is he's a force safety.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And then at corners, obviously you saw Ringo
• 32:18
  and Jack and start now Ringo again. You know, we
• 32:21
  talk about this. He was a little I don't know
• 32:23
  if you want to say slow or late or didn't
• 32:25
  get his hips turned fast enough on that third down
• 32:29
  crossing route, and because he was late on it, he
• 32:32
  got caught up in the wash of the which is
• 32:34
  exactly what the play is designed to do. But a
• 32:36
  good smart corner can get a beat on that, get
• 32:38
  his way through the traffic, or get there before the
• 32:41
  traffic even starts to pile up. But he got caught
• 32:43
  up between I think it was Jamari Thrash caught the ball,
• 32:47
  had time to turn upfield and got the extra yardage.
• 32:51
  I mean, it's just one play, but it's sort of
• 32:53
  like highlights that these are the kind of plays that
• 32:55
  Killer Ringo has got to start to like tighten up.
• 32:57
  And you know Vic, you'll hear Vic say he's got
• 33:00
  to play more football and learn how to deal with
• 33:02
  those situations.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is why OTA's folks, it's double a
• 33:06
  baseball if you use this turn this phrase for years
• 33:09
  and it really hasn't changed. You got to be careful
• 33:11
  of hype of any player, not just a corner in
• 33:13
  ots I means very little. He's been unable to carry
• 33:17
  this is two years now. He's not carried over the
• 33:20
  outstanding OTA's. It's it's almost like it's never happened. I
• 33:22
  hate to say that, but he's just not carried over.
• 33:25
  He got beat for the third cornerback job last year
• 33:27
  after one week. A guy who didn't play football the
• 33:29
  year before beat him out in Isaiah Rodgers. Great story
• 33:32
  from Rodgers, who parlayed that into a really good season,
• 33:35
  got a nice to agent deal with the Vikings and Ringo.
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  It's just just because you have got the height, weight
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  and speed doesn't make you a great football player. I
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  think we're all learning that. But there's time here. He's
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  kind of running out here kind of running out and
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  that Dory Jackson. See here's the thing, here's the quick
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  and Bennett hurt his arms. So we'll see if he's
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  available this week. Let me ask you this question. It's
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  a starting corner opposite Quina Mitchell on this football team.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great question. I think it. I think it is.
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  I just don't think it's gonna have great results early on.
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  I like do I think that very very could Howie
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  Rose and Paul off for trade for a true starting
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  corner before the season opener, like he did with say
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  getting the nickel when he got to Gardner Johnson. Sure,
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  but you have to tell me who's available, you know, Nichols.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I hear you. Starting credit for a starting.
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  Speaker 1: He's giving one up, right.
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  Speaker 3: I get that now.
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  Speaker 2: Bennett was buried on their depth chart with the Raiders
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  because he was coming back from the shoulder surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And and he's not, to be honest and fair,
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  he's not like a proven starting corner either. He's right,
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  you know, he got he was on a bad team,
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  so he did a good job for you.
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  Speaker 2: He got hurt last year. But yeah, I hear you.
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  I just I know the way how he thinks he's not.
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  He's just not accepted. If he doesn't work, you're just
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  not gonna stand. You're not gonna throw your hands up.
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  You got picked for next year. I mean, if it
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  doesn't work, go get to one. But on your point,
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  it's gonna to me, it would have to be more
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  of a situation like Bennett, who's better to depth, Charter's
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  got it, who would high grades?
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  Speaker 3: Whose tape has actually been pretty good in.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL, who just needs Look how he's had, He's
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  done really well with this kind of stuff. Yeah, you know, look,
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  you just never know. But I can't. He's not gonna
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  stand idly by. And obviously they're having these kind of
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  discussions internally, and you know this is what this is
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  what happens a couple of weeks before the season starts.
• 35:29
  You start saying, Okay, if this doesn't get better, what
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  are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Now some people were a little like I guess,
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  surprised that Brandon Johnson, Yeah, a nickel role. But if
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  you've been following along, you know, whether it's Andrew de
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  czech O daily or his notes or even us talking.
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  Mac McWilliams is also getting cross trained on the outside
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  happened about started happened about a week and a half
• 35:50
  or maybe after the first preseason game, where they're giving
• 35:53
  him more outside looks, which Vic said he was going
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  to do. He's evaluating him at outside and Nickel at
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  corner and nicol. So obviously, if mac McWilliams is not
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  going to be playing nickel, then you need nickel and
• 36:04
  Cooper Jean's not playing in this game in general. So
• 36:07
  Brandon Johnson's had a decent camp, by the way, I
• 36:09
  think he's actually showed some pretty good awareness and alertness
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  and made some plays. But he's not going to make
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  the fifty three. I mean, I just can't see that happen. Yeah,
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  I agree, I agree, but it happens to be next
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  man up at that position.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and mac mcwain has been a really nice story
• 36:23
  who they've crosstrained a little bit on the outside.
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  Speaker 3: So that that's pretty much it. By the way, one
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  more note for you for that.
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  Speaker 2: I just think this is funny two years ago who
• 36:33
  started against Cleveland the preseason game. Almost all these players
• 36:36
  are gone, Dark Barnett gone, Zach Cunningham gone with Detroit,
• 36:43
  Mario Goodrich, I know who's working out for I don't
• 36:45
  even know if he's in the league. Josh Job now
• 36:47
  he's revived his career well with Seattle. Zach McPherson. I
• 36:50
  think it was Wave injured. I think he got hurt
• 36:51
  somewhere as Waved injured, Terrell Emans and Kevon Wallace. So basically,
• 36:57
  in summary, what do we see. Gabe Hall showed up,
• 37:00
  It's been a good story. Development, Macouba showed up. It
• 37:02
  wasn't just those two plays. He's closing in on. He's
• 37:06
  closing in on that job. Nothing official. Brown's still technically ahead,
• 37:09
  mccooba's doing well, Ringo's got to pick it up. They
• 37:12
  may not have a number two corner right now, but overall,
• 37:16
  it's not.
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  Speaker 3: The end of the world.
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  Speaker 2: At Peoples a preseason game, don't read much into it.
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  It's all about the backups of development. We'll see what
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  happens this week. By the way, they got free practice.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely a lot, a lot, a lot going on this week.
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  Speaker 3: All right, That is gonna.
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