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The Blow Out Of All Blow Outs · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This episode has been made possible thanks to our launch partner,
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  Speaker 1: Minnie and me, and their incredible Mama Bites, a six-in-one
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  Speaker 1: functional snack to nourish feeding mamas. Hello and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: The Mums Group, The Mums Group you actually want to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of. I'm Kate Torber and I'm joined
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  Speaker 1: in today's episode by my sisters and journalists, Amy and
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber. Now, I have to talk to you guys
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  Speaker 1: about something that's been on my mind for quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: The other week, Kik founder, Laura Henshaw, admitted that she
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  Speaker 1: didn't change her bedsheets after her newborn wheedled over them
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  Speaker 1: while she was breastfeeding. So she said that she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to give her baby Atlas some nappy free time, which
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  Speaker 1: everyone tells you to do like, oh, just take the
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  Speaker 1: nappy off and let them roam around. So it never
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  Speaker 1: ends well. So she decided to do that while she
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  Speaker 1: was breastfeeding. And she thought because she had a towel
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  Speaker 1: with her, that she would be able to catch the urine.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, To her credit, she's only a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months into parenting. So, I mean, I can imagine being like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that much. It's not just catch it in
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  Speaker 1: a cup. I mean, isn't that the worst time to
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  Speaker 1: give your kid nappy free time when they're literally feeding?
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  Speaker 1: You know, they feed then piss straight after. She's being
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  Speaker 1: a great mum and she's trying to multitask and saying, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll breastfeed and do nappy free time. This is a
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  Speaker 1: judgment-free zone. I just think, you know, whatever's working for you,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what felt right in the moment. But this
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  Speaker 1: isn't the part that's been living rent-free in your mind.
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  Speaker 1: It's the fact that she decided that after– Atlas pissed
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  Speaker 1: all over the bedsheets and I think her pillow as well.
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  Speaker 1: She thought, oh stuff, but I'm not going to clean
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  Speaker 1: it up. I'll just let it dry and then we'll
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  Speaker 1: go to bed that night with it. She justified it
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  Speaker 1: in her head, which I love, by saying, look, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's really hydrated. Yeah. It's basically my breast milk all
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  Speaker 1: over the blanket. I mean, it's hard to get anything done,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in those newborn trenches. I can see me being like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: get the hair dryer out, we'll dry it. Isn't it
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  Speaker 1: crazy how your child doesn't seem gross? Like I remember
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  Speaker 1: seeing Because I remember before I was a mum, you'd
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  Speaker 1: see the mums like wiping the kids' snotty noses with
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  Speaker 1: their hand.
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  Speaker 2: I always vowed never to have a snotty nose kid.
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm like, oh, you can't really help that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you realise you're like, oh, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about the grossness because they're my child. I remember Kate
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  Speaker 1: got really upset with me when I think Jack was
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  Speaker 1: like six months old and he started teething and dribbling
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  Speaker 1: a lot. And I remember I would get really freaked
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  Speaker 1: out by the dribble. And I remember trying it because
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  Speaker 1: I would be like, ooh, and you told me off.
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  Speaker 1: So I remember he once dribbled and I like trickled
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  Speaker 1: down my arm and I pretended to be really cool
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  Speaker 1: about it. I was like, that's fine, but was dying inside.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny how quickly you get out of that stage though,
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  Speaker 1: because now that I have a toddler, he's not drooling
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  Speaker 1: and he's not, you know, spewing up milk. And the
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  Speaker 1: other day, Luca, it was probably a couple of months
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  Speaker 1: ago now, Luca literally spat up all over my shirt.
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  Speaker 1: All over, it wasn't that much. I had to take
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  Speaker 1: the shirt off and be washed. Like it was, remember
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  Speaker 1: our family dinner, it was a considerable amount and I
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  Speaker 1: tried to play it cool, but I was like, Ew.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't play it cool. It's written all over your face.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Harry was really little and he'd wee
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  Speaker 1: through his sleep suit. I used to just go and
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  Speaker 1: blow dry it if I didn't have another one. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: guilty of doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And to make me feel better, I actually found this
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  Speaker 1: TikTok thread and it was all these mums divulging the
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  Speaker 1: most disgusting, in quotations, things that they had done in
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  Speaker 1: the newborn trenches. I need to read some of these
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  Speaker 1: to you. So the most common thing people said they
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  Speaker 1: did was they just didn't shower or brush their teeth
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  Speaker 1: for days. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I reckon I
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  Speaker 1: kept one of those, you know, those pads that you
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  Speaker 1: have to wear after having a baby. I reckon I
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  Speaker 1: kept one of those on for days. I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: have time to change it. No judgment. We said it's
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  Speaker 1: no judgment. No, like obviously once I'd sort of gone
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  Speaker 1: past the bleeding stage where it's sort of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a trickle's coming out, sort of like, oh, whatever.
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  Speaker 1: For multiple days. I just didn't have any time. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that's helpful to do. Should I not be
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  Speaker 1: mentioning that? I thought it was a safe space. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a safe space. But actually there were also a
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  Speaker 1: few mums who were saying that they also had their
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  Speaker 1: kids who'd weed on the bed and they left it there.
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  Speaker 1: They said, oh, the kid would do a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a wee or a vomit. But then there was a
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  Speaker 1: mum who said that her kid pooed on the bed
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  Speaker 1: and she also just left it, which pooed. As I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to judge anyone, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I draw the line at feces on the bed. I
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  Speaker 1: want to know if other mums do this or if
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  Speaker 1: I'm just being lazy.
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  Speaker 2: But anytime Luca.
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  Speaker 1: Does a poo, oh, you know, put the nappy in
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  Speaker 1: the little plastic bag. And we have a little balcony
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  Speaker 1: which has a sliding door and I will open the
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  Speaker 1: sliding door and put the nappy out there and the
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  Speaker 1: little fairy comes and collects them. Who's the fairy? Is
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  Speaker 1: it mum?
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  Speaker 3: Brandon.
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  Speaker 1: Mum sometimes too. I'm just impressed that you're putting them
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  Speaker 1: in the plastic little blue bag because I just will
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  Speaker 1: sometimes put them straight in the garbage. Not even in
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  Speaker 1: a plastic bag. That's disgusting. But I reckon it is
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  Speaker 1: a sign of a new mum if you've got bags
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  Speaker 1: of shit by your door when people arrive we just
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  Speaker 1: chuck them out on the doorstep bags of shit i've
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  Speaker 1: rocked up her house i'm like i feel a bit
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  Speaker 1: better she's got them too i'm wondering when does it
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  Speaker 1: get to the stage where you're meant to flush them
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  Speaker 1: down the toilet because everyone's like oh you just pop
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  Speaker 1: in there's a toilet okay this is like what do
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  Speaker 1: you oh the poo the poo yeah i thought you
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  Speaker 1: meant the whole nappy this is a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: confession though about poo if we're on the topic of
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  Speaker 1: poo they smell nice like when they're newborns not not
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  Speaker 1: now when they start eating solids i would be like
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  Speaker 1: And it was kind of like a rewarding smell.
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  Speaker 2: It smells like popcorn. It smells sweet like popcorn.
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  Speaker 1: And you're almost so relieved that they've done a poo
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  Speaker 1: that you don't have to worry about anymore. Just still
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  Speaker 1: on the topic of poo, which it's funny how that
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  Speaker 1: just becomes such a huge talking point between you and
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  Speaker 1: your partner. But someone admitted that they, if their child
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  Speaker 1: does a blowout in a onesie, they would just throw
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  Speaker 1: it in the bin. Oh, okay. Yeah, I respect that.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes when you just, there's no going back. Because it's
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  Speaker 1: so yellow as well. I mean, I've only just discovered
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  Speaker 1: Wonder Soap as of late. Like, mine starts close. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: I love the effort that we're taking at that shit.
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  Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, why are these stains not coming out?
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  Speaker 1: My mom's like, you just have to buy Wonder Soap
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  Speaker 1: because who's getting around in these stained onesie pajama things?
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  Speaker 1: It depends what type of onesie it is. Like, if
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  Speaker 1: it's a Bond's. Double zip wonder suit. I'm probably going
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  Speaker 1: to scrub it. But if it's just some cheapo Kmart one. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we love the Bonds ones. I love the Bonds ones.
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  Speaker 1: If it's a country road, Soph's probably going to scrub it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? I have a confession to make. Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: Another one. Oh, what? It's funny because I got all
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  Speaker 1: the hand-me-downs and I think Amy drew like a J
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  Speaker 1: for Jack in a whole heap of them. And I
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  Speaker 1: reckon that Luca once had a blower in the early
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  Speaker 1: days in one of the ones with a J on it.
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  Speaker 1: And we were like, what do we do with it?
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  Speaker 1: Can't get it out. So we tossed it in the bin.
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  Speaker 1: Which one was it? It was a Pond's one. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't it the worst though when you have a baby
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  Speaker 1: and everyone just comes with their piles and piles of hand-me-downs?
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  Speaker 1: And like sometimes you genuinely do. There are some good things,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes I think just put them in goodwill. I
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  Speaker 1: remember getting boxes and boxes of hand-me-downs and mum and
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  Speaker 1: I went through them all. These are all disgusting. My
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  Speaker 1: mum just took them straight to Goodwill. I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why the person didn't want to do it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like because they're personally attached to them. That
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  Speaker 1: they like think that they're better than they are. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a really nice idea of what you can do
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  Speaker 1: with your baby's clothes, the ones that are particularly sentimental
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  Speaker 1: to you. It was some Instagram ad that was running
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  Speaker 1: and you can send off a few of your favourite
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  Speaker 1: jumpsuits and they make them into a jumper that says mum. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that. So the M and the M is
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  Speaker 1: spelled out. And you can also use the hospital blankets
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  Speaker 1: that you steal, you know, that iconic one. We steal
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  Speaker 1: so many of those. I reckon we've got like eight
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  Speaker 1: at our house. How? Because... You guys.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted some, so I took some for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got that. And then I think like they just–
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone sort of hid them in different compartments
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  Speaker 1: like you guys and then we were like, why do
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  Speaker 1: we have so many? I'm still upset about it because
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  Speaker 1: I took one because all the midwives were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just take it. You know, it's very sentimental. And stupidly
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  Speaker 1: I left it out while we had a midwife visit
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  Speaker 1: and this midwife goes, oh. Seems like you accidentally took
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  Speaker 1: that from the hospital. I'll take it back. Well, this
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  Speaker 1: is because of the pricks like soap stealing. Hey, this
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  Speaker 1: is why they're taking them back. On the topic though
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  Speaker 1: of clothes we just touched on, someone said that their
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  Speaker 1: confession was that they got out of the house looking
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  Speaker 1: like Adam Sandler every day, like just looking like absolute bum.
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  Speaker 1: How is that even a confession? I think that's just expected.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the uniform of a new mum.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. 20 months in, I'm still doing that. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: love this one from one mum. She said that She
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  Speaker 1: would lie to her husband when the baby would start
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  Speaker 1: crying that she'd previously comforted him and he just hadn't
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  Speaker 1: heard it. That's a good idea. Yeah. We've got to
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  Speaker 1: start a thread in our Facebook community for other mums
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  Speaker 1: to share their lazy mum behaviour. I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: read them. And no judgment. This is a judgment-free zone
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  Speaker 1: I need to add. I mean, I know we're having
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  Speaker 1: a laugh about it, but it actually will make other
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  Speaker 1: people feel better. Yeah, 100%. UK influencer and Love Islander
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  Speaker 1: Montana Brown has called out new dad's who choose to
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  Speaker 1: pound the pavement instead of spending time with their kids.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what she said.
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  Speaker 3: Shall I tell you what doesn't impress me and actually
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  Speaker 3: has pissed me off this morning is that I don't
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  Speaker 3: like it when male influencers who have children then proceed
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  Speaker 3: to run around doing like marathons and like flying to
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  Speaker 3: different countries alone when they've got young children and And
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  Speaker 3: start being like, oh my gosh, I ran the length
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  Speaker 3: of Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Woo, go me.
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  Speaker 3: How about go home and look after your own children
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  Speaker 3: rather than letting probably a woman pick up the slack
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  Speaker 3: for you not being a present father.
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  Speaker 1: It is rather ironic when a new dad suddenly discovers
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  Speaker 1: this new hobby that they must put time and effort into. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she was actually taking aim at Spencer Matthews. He used
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  Speaker 1: to be on Made in Chelsea and he ran 30
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  Speaker 1: marathons I think it was across 30 different days overseas
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  Speaker 1: in Jordan. I think the thing that irks me the
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  Speaker 1: most about these types of dads is that they don't
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  Speaker 1: think for a second that perhaps their wife or partner
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  Speaker 1: who's gone through the most physically demanding thing that a
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  Speaker 1: woman will ever go through, i.e. being pregnant, they might
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  Speaker 1: like some time to work on their fitness or get
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  Speaker 1: back into it or even just have some alone time.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that most women lose all of their hobbies
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  Speaker 1: when they become a mum because they simply don't have time,
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  Speaker 1: whereas rather than the dad supporting their partner and going, oh,
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  Speaker 1: hang on, Let me take on some of this load
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  Speaker 1: so you can do something for yourself. No, I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: going to add something else to do. Whenever anyone runs
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  Speaker 1: a marathon, they are this legend because usually they're like
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  Speaker 1: raising money for charity and they're promoting it and everyone's like,
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  Speaker 1: good job, well done you. But it's sort of like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not doing a good job. You should actually be
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  Speaker 1: at home. Like this isn't the time for personal projects
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  Speaker 1: like that. Did you guys see Gordon Ramsay's new show
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  Speaker 1: on Netflix? Because that kept popping up. Those thoughts kept
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  Speaker 1: popping up for me. So he has six kids. The
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  Speaker 1: eldest is 27 and the youngest is 18 months. Which
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  Speaker 1: he's 57 and his wife's 51. He's there opening all
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  Speaker 1: these new restaurants and flying overseas and he and his
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  Speaker 1: wife must have some arrangement. Like she seemed very supportive
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  Speaker 1: of him. Well, I mean, he's filthy rich. They probably
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  Speaker 1: got a nanny. Yeah, but I just felt sorry for
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  Speaker 1: her and he was actually talking about how difficult it
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  Speaker 1: was for him as a dad to spend all that
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  Speaker 1: time away from his son. And you could tell, I
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  Speaker 1: think the kid was around six, his son, Oscar. He
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  Speaker 1: idolized Gordon and he would count down the days until
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  Speaker 1: he got home. And it almost gave me this different
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  Speaker 1: perspective because I was talking about it to Dale and
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  Speaker 1: he said, you know, when I am at work, I
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  Speaker 1: know you think that you're having to do X, Y,
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  Speaker 1: and Z, but I'm really sitting here, you know, heartbroken,
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  Speaker 1: missing out on seeing Harry grow up. See, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you do have to look at it from both perspectives
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  Speaker 1: because I My husband's the same. When I was in
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  Speaker 1: the trenches and I'm like, this is really hard for me.
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  Speaker 1: Like you get to go and drive in the car,
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  Speaker 1: which is a treat. Like these little tasks that you
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  Speaker 1: take for granted when you're not a parent. And then
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh my God, I would love to be
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  Speaker 1: in peak hour traffic listening to a podcast. But then
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  Speaker 1: I had the taste of my own medicine when I
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  Speaker 1: actually had a day at work. We actually went and
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  Speaker 1: did a photo shoot for the mum's group. And I
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  Speaker 1: felt like I had just missed out on everything Jack
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  Speaker 1: had done that day. And I felt really sad about it.
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of the men who run these marathons,
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  Speaker 1: this is something in addition to their full-time jobs. So
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  Speaker 1: this is something that they're choosing to do away from
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  Speaker 1: their families. That being said, Dale did go and run
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  Speaker 1: the city to Bay. I don't think it was a
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  Speaker 1: half marathon. I think it was like 16 Ks because
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  Speaker 1: his work had all decided to do it. And at
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  Speaker 1: first I was like, oh, that's great. He's getting fit.
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  Speaker 1: And then suddenly when it was like, oh, I've got
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  Speaker 1: to go and do this running training, like you're okay
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  Speaker 1: to look after Harry. And even on the day of
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  Speaker 1: the marathon, it went for quite a considerable amount of time.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, have to just go out and run around.
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  Speaker 1: But the issue is when you're a mom, any me
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  Speaker 1: time is literally you doing jobs for your child or
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  Speaker 1: household job. So if you get some me time, you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I better do the logistics for getting their food organized.
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  Speaker 2: I better clean up their bedroom or their nursery, whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's always about helping your future self out. It was funny.
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  Speaker 1: I had two hours to myself the other day, which
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  Speaker 1: is so rare. And I was like, so overwhelmed with
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  Speaker 1: what to do. I was like, do I sit down
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  Speaker 1: and watch maths and actually relax? Or Do I go
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  Speaker 1: vacuum Jack's room, which I've been wanting to do all week,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because it's just frustrating me. And I ended
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  Speaker 1: up going, oh, I'll do an hour of chores and
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  Speaker 1: an hour of relaxation. Of course, it ended up being
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  Speaker 1: two hours of chores. We're just back to Montana's post.
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  Speaker 1: There were quite a few women who seemed quite triggered
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  Speaker 1: by her content and they were saying, well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see a problem with parents having goals outside of having children.
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  Speaker 1: But someone pointed out in the comments, you've missed the
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  Speaker 1: mark completely. This isn't about parents having goals. It's always
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  Speaker 1: a dad has a dream, but a woman's never going
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  Speaker 1: and running a marathon after having a child.
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  Speaker 2: Some do, but it is a rarity.
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  Speaker 1: And generally it is when the child is three, four,
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  Speaker 1: when they're a bit more of a manageable age. It's
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  Speaker 1: not straight after they give birth or anything. The reality is,
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  Speaker 1: and I have always been a feminist, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like I'm even more of a feminist after having a child.
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  Speaker 1: The inequality that women face once you have a child
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely extreme. And it doesn't matter how good your husband,
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  Speaker 1: like how nice your husband is and how supportive they are.
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  Speaker 1: There are just unfortunately things that get placed on the woman,
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  Speaker 1: such as having the baby to begin with, having to
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  Speaker 1: go through the pregnancy, breastfeeding. all of those type of
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  Speaker 1: jobs that do get put on the woman. Well, particularly
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  Speaker 1: also because it's generally women who get the paid maternity leave.
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  Speaker 1: So then they are the expert at.
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  Speaker 2: All of the jobs.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes it's just easier to do the job yourself
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: than have to sit there and explain it to someone. Yeah,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: and I read this really great post. I think I
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: sent it to you guys on Instagram. It said, men
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: easily say, I want children because they risk nothing. For
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: a man, a child is often status. For a woman,
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: it's a sacrifice of her entire previous life. A man says,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: let's have kids and continues living almost the same life.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: A woman agrees that her life permanently divides into life
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: before and after. It does go on. It's a really
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: great post, but I think that's why so many people
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: get triggered by men going off and doing these activities
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: because it's like, wait a sec, your life just resumes.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: Whereas mine, I'm having to go through all this shit.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: My body's recovering. I don't get the luxury of going
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: and running a marathon. That is why quite often you
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: will see new dads in the best physical form of
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: their lives because it's kind of a bit of an
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: excuse to go and do this outside project and get
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: away from things, whereas the woman will be the most
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: depleted they've ever been. Do you think it's a bit
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: of a midlife crisis for men as well? Because doing
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: something like a marathon, that's something that they can control.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I personally think it's just selfish. And if my husband
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: came to me and said, I'm thinking of running a
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: marathon after I had a newborn, I think I'd say,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: there's the door, get out, because you're clearly not going
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: to help me at all. I read an article and
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: it said that men only start to experience that all-encompassing
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: aspect of parenthood that women experience the first time around
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: when they have their second child because if you think
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: about it that's when they have to step up more
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: they've got a parent the.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Second child because you're having to tag team yeah.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: They can't get away with not doing as much okay
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: so there's a benefit of having a second that if
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: your partner finally understands what you've gone through but then
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: normally you get given the harder newborn the article was
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: saying this is when people start to get divorces because
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: they're they start well their relationship starts to fracture because One,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: the dad's now having to deal with this stuff that
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: he previously wasn't doing and it causes his animosity and
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you don't get to see your partner anymore. Yeah, and
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: you also don't have much time for your relationship and
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: to do things ever one-on-one because you're tag teaming the
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: whole time. Let's get into our recommendations. And my recommendation
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: is if you have a favorite childhood book that they
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: no longer sell, go on eBay and try and find
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: it because I absolutely loved this book called Mr. Plunkett's Pool.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone actually remembers it. I don't
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: even know if it was that popular. But it is
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: an incredible book by Gillian Rubenstein. And we have a
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: copy that is very much loved. Mum still had it
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: at her house. But it is falling to pieces. All
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the pages are coming out. And it got to the
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: point where I just can't read it to Jack any longer.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: And I was so excited. I found it on eBay.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: And I also found this iconic book called Mona the Hairdresser.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: So it used to be yours. In mint condition. And
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: they were only like $ 15 each. The joy it brought
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: me when those books arrived, I always want Jack to
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: ask for them. He is obsessed currently with the Lightning
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: McQueen movie book. It's like Cars 3 or something.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Which is actually the worst book I think I've ever read.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: No, this is a different one. It's even worse than
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the Christmas one. Oh, they're so bad. And they're so
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: boring but he loves it and he wants to read
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that book on repeat and I'm like, can't we read Mr.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Plunkett's book, please? My recommendation is for parents to buy
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: a video camera. So back in the day, our dad
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: had this massive video camera and he would film– so
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: many different aspects of our childhood. Like, you know, those
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: old videos where the person just literally sets up the
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: camera on a tripod and they just film the whole
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: family event. Yeah, and you get to hear all the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: conversations people are having. And it's not particularly the best
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: quality vision, but I love it. It's just so nostalgic
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: to be able to hear those conversations, particularly of people
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: who are no longer with us anymore. Like just hearing
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: our grandparents in the background is amazing. And the conversations,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: even like hearing our grandma talk about what was in
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: the price at Coles, just in the background, like just
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: even comparing the prices. Anyway, so before Luca was born,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I thought, I really want to get a video camera.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't get around to getting one until I think
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: he was six weeks old, but I got a Canon
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: vlogging camera and it's just so small, so easy to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: pull out at any moment. And I know that in
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a couple of years time, when I look back at
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: these videos, I'm just going to feel so nostalgic. The
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: only issue is I bought the same thing and I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: love the camera because you can literally just chuck it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in any small bag. The only thing it doesn't do
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: is take photos. And I know you've always got your phone,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: but I'm actually, that's the next big purchase I'm going
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to make is, I think it's called the GX7. It is,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, I love cameras, but I kind of want
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a small little camera I can just chuck in my
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: bag as well that takes good quality photos. It's got
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a flash.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: It's quite a flattering.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a good one. Devil's advocate. What's the difference
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: between just filming on your phone? I think the big
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: difference is that you never really do anything with the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: vision on your phone. It might sit there and you
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: can go back through, but With these cameras, I would
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: download all the stuff off my SD card and make
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a whole video and then I'll save it. It's a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: bit more deliberate. Yeah, you can actually, I feel like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: it's a safer way to hold onto your memories. But
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: also you can have those videos where you just press
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: record and you can capture the whole family event. You
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? You can't do that with your phone. Well,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: my recommendation is to follow TikToker Hannah East Comedy. She's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a UK comedian and oh my gosh, I resonate so
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: much with her video. She's fucking hilarious. I'm going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: insert a grab to one of her videos.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Given you got home from hospital earlier, I wasn't expecting
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the hallway to be so messy and the house to
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: be a shit tip. John, be careful of all these
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: shoes scattered on the floor. You'll go arse over tit
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: in a minute.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: He's got bad knees.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: You've named the baby what? Is that middle name your
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: dad's name? Because that's not one of our family names.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: It's not fair. It smells of a suffocity in here.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: It was a difficult labor, was it? We've all done it, Hannah. Well,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: as soon as I'd given birth, I went home and
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: did a triathlon.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: They are so funny. I love the one about daycare.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I think our mum actually is a bigger fan of
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: her than you, Amy, if that's possible. She is always
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: sending them to our group chat and they are so good. Well,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's it for another Mums Group. Thank you
• 19:25
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• 19:28
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• 19:51
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. Amy, I hope you do something to get
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: rid of my bags in this. Anyway, this episode was
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past and present.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you to our launch partner, Minnie and me and
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: their delicious mama bites for making this episode possible.