Latest / Williamson County Neighbors hosted by Lyndsay Stafford / Habits, Health & High Fives with Ashley Plourde :: Ep 62 The Lyndsay Stafford Show
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- 0:00Unknown: This is the Lindsay Stafford Show. Welcome back to
- 0:05the Lindsay Stafford show. I am so excited today. My sister
- 0:09Ashley, Florida is back with me again. We had so much fun last
- 0:13time that we already booked another one, and here we are.
- 0:16Today we are this is not a traditional Lindsay Stafford
- 0:20show, podcast. So today we're talking about all things working
- 0:24mom, life hacks, how we fit things in, our favorite
- 0:27products, our favorite things that make us be able to function
- 0:30at a high level. My sister is a high achiever. She is a mom of
- 0:35two young kids. I'm a high achiever. Also type A
- 0:40personality. I think we both would qualify as a type A
- 0:42personality.
- 0:43Yes, I get mixed reviews about that. For you, yeah, I was like,
- 0:47not for me. People I work with think that I'm type A. People I
- 0:50don't work with know that I'm not type A.
- 0:52Oh, I think you're very much a type A personality. You know how
- 0:56you want things done, and you have a very strict routine,
- 1:00which I think is part of your secrets, yes, so I would
- 1:03definitely say we're both type A we're very similar in a lot of
- 1:07ways. We were just doing squats to warm up, and I was like,
- 1:11let's do a high five. And we just started, like, alternating
- 1:13high fives without even thinking about it. But we're going to
- 1:16talk about, how do you manage all that? So I've got two
- 1:19teenagers. She's got two young kids. We're both working, you
- 1:23know, and it's, it's a it's a lot, but we also both prioritize
- 1:26family and health. And so I want to talk through some of our
- 1:29favorite items, some of our favorite hacks, some of our
- 1:32favorite routines and activities. And so we're going
- 1:35to share all the secrets today are coming out in this episode.
- 1:41Remember when we first started the podcast and we were like,
- 1:44our whole premise is going to be like, how do you be a working
- 1:47mom and still have it all? And yes, because we have a lot of
- 1:51crossover there. Like, yeah, we both, I think that a lot of moms
- 1:55try to be selfless, yeah? And they kind of hang their hat on
- 1:58that, and they have guilt around things that they label as
- 2:03selfish, and for me, I just know I am a better person when I put
- 2:08my oxygen mask on first that I know it sounds so cliche, but
- 2:13I'm like a better wife, a better mom, if I have my strategies, my
- 2:18rituals to Start the day on my terms, before I go inside my
- 2:24chaotic life, and everybody wants something from me, and you
- 2:28can't. You really can't pour from an empty cup. So it's how
- 2:30do you fill your cup consistently every day so that
- 2:34you're not showing up as your worst self some days for your
- 2:37family, I love
- 2:39everything you said. I agree with all of that, and I think
- 2:41that is one of the founding kind of principles for you. And I
- 2:44that like and I think our mom did that honestly. I think mom
- 2:48showed us in a lot of ways, like I remember her saying, I'm a
- 2:52really good mom all day, and now it's my
- 2:55time, yeah. And I say that
- 2:58too, yeah. Now this is my time. We say that because, like, nine
- 3:01o'clock, obviously, sometimes it's different, because we have
- 3:04high school kids in sports, but nine o'clock, that's our time.
- 3:07Like, I'm happy to do whatever you need for me, but don't ask
- 3:10me at 9pm because that's when we get an hour together before we
- 3:13go to bed. That's like, our downtime to watch a show or talk
- 3:16or whatever. And I don't feel
- 3:17bad about it. No boundary. I'm, I'm like, I'm I'm present, I
- 3:20will do what you need me to do. And then Good night, yeah, and
- 3:24my sometimes, Andy will come down and she's like, Mommy,
- 3:26blah, blah. And I'm like, Hey, I'm off. I'm not gonna be a nice
- 3:30mommy right now. Yeah, I already said good night. If you don't go
- 3:33back to bed, you're gonna get mean mommy.
- 3:36Yeah, you don't want mean mommy. And I'm pretty sure I said the
- 3:38same things, but I think we had that example. And I also
- 3:41remember now we have five kids in our family. Obviously, I'm
- 3:45saying this to listeners. You know that? So it's I'm the
- 3:47oldest, you're four years younger, so I'm 24 and you're
- 3:5120, and then kind of gone. I would never want Me neither. Me
- 3:54neither. Yeah, me neither. And then Mark is four years younger
- 3:58than you, and then we have Billy and the twins that are four
- 4:01years mark when pregnancy. Yeah, surprise, oops, twin pregnancy.
- 4:05So I'm 11 and a half years older than the twins, and you are
- 4:10seven and a half years older than the twins, yeah. So I
- 4:13remember, even when we were growing up, mom would be like,
- 4:16I'm going for a walk. And like, she would make sure she got her
- 4:20time in to be the best version of herself. And I think having
- 4:24her model that was important to us,
- 4:27don't you remember, like, right after she had the kids, the
- 4:30twins, and we moved because dad was traveling and mom we were
- 4:35having babies in October, and he rented a house in Chicago. We
- 4:39were in Ohio. He rented a house in Chicago. He probably rented
- 4:42it sight unseen. He No, he did. He read the listing wrong, and
- 4:45we moved in, and it had one less bedroom than we thought it had,
- 4:49the mom thought it had, God bless her, that she didn't lose
- 4:53it regularly. With this situation, she was constantly
- 4:56alone with two babies in the NICU. And then I. Remember Aunt
- 5:01Ruth came and helped out when we moved to that rental house,
- 5:03because dad was still commuting, like, an hour a day up to the
- 5:07Chicago area or something like that, and she had to navigate
- 5:11that. But I remember once they built the house because they
- 5:14were building in Cary, Chicago area. We were living in Fox
- 5:17River Grove and building in Cary, yes, my gosh. And we used
- 5:20to go to that site all the time. Those are some good memories.
- 5:22Like, I love a construction site, house construction site. I
- 5:26love knowing about that stuff, and it was just a lot for her to
- 5:30handle. I remember a lot of screen time, which I'm very
- 5:33generous with, screen time with my kids. Now, I don't think it
- 5:36was harmful for me at all. And I remember her getting herself
- 5:41back, like, around two years later. Remember they had, she
- 5:44had the male nanny. Do you know what I was gonna say that? No,
- 5:47the male nanny, Ross, yes. And he would come, like, a couple
- 5:52mornings a week, and she would go walk, and he would help clean
- 5:55up, and just like, take a little bit of the burden of full time
- 5:58momming twin babies in a new home, yeah, where you don't have
- 6:02the support system. So that's one thing I like. The first
- 6:06thing I think about when people become a mom, I think like, be
- 6:11really patient with yourself, because for a couple years,
- 6:14you're going to be still finding your footing, and you can't have
- 6:17the same expectation that you're going to be 100% in every area,
- 6:21because it really does deplete you, and you have to transform
- 6:26into a new person when you first have a child.
- 6:28Yeah, you really do. And then at each phase, you have to make
- 6:32transformations in your life and adaptations. I mean. So I think
- 6:36one, one thing as we're sharing, kind of to summarize, is
- 6:39prioritizing what you need to feel better? Yeah, and whatever
- 6:42that looks like. And Dave and I, in our marriage, have a really
- 6:45good partnership. I know you and Andrew do the same kind of thing
- 6:47is, and maybe this is another thing. Another tip is, like, we
- 6:51can kind of tell when the other person is like, needing
- 6:54something like, whether it's a day to relax, whether it's like,
- 6:59how do you tell you bite each other's heads off. No, no.
- 7:02Actually, that for me, it's like, Dave just gets shorter a
- 7:05little bit with me, he's never like, mean, he just, I'm like, I
- 7:10can tell, I can sense that you're not like, here, like,
- 7:13what's going on and like, I think we we serve that for each
- 7:17other. Like, we both are, like, all right. I think you need,
- 7:19like, a minute to just, like, what do you want to do right
- 7:23now? And like, sometimes it is just like having a few hours to
- 7:26yourself to just not be in demand. And I think that
- 7:31communication on how having somebody that's looking out for
- 7:34you, because it's hard to do it on your own, to always know
- 7:38that, like, oh, wait, I didn't do that. I need to do something
- 7:40like he's Yes, we recently, as you know, our today, hopefully
- 7:44he's finishing right now our bedroom. So we did, like, a
- 7:46bedroom refresh and, and I say Refresh. We had the same
- 7:49furniture for the last 17 years time, and it came from Bob's
- 7:53Discount Furniture. And I think the entire set was, like, $1,700
- 7:56and every piece of it is broken in some way. And we've had it
- 8:00for, like, literally, it's been from Maine to Baltimore to or
- 8:03Maine to New Hampshire to Baltimore to Tennessee in two
- 8:06houses in Texas. And what a milestone, because I was living
- 8:09with you when you got that Bob's furniture. Oh my gosh. And
- 8:12things were tight. Yeah, finances were tight. Totally. We
- 8:16were just starting out. You could have bought new furniture
- 8:18a long time ago, but just like a picture of your life now versus
- 8:23then, to be like, This is not stressful. It's not like we
- 8:26needed to do this and you had to wait until it was, like,
- 8:29absolutely necessary we get to do this, yeah, to design our
- 8:32life the way we want to, because of how hard you've worked to get
- 8:35to that place. Yeah. And I remember you asking me, this is
- 8:38totally a side note, but being like, when are you gonna, like,
- 8:40slow down? Like, you probably asked me that, like, six or
- 8:43seven years ago, like, when is it when are you gonna slow down?
- 8:46And I was telling Dave the other day, like, I feel like we're
- 8:48there, but like, I'm definitely not slow by anyone's stretch.
- 8:52It's just that there's, there's breathing room now, like, right?
- 8:55Like, I think I have so many people around me that take some
- 8:58of the burden of having a great team that it's like, okay, we
- 9:01can breathe a little bit. So we were recently doing the bedroom.
- 9:04I think he's finishing it today. He's putting the nightstands
- 9:06together in the curtains. And I was pretty strict with my budget
- 9:09on the bedroom, because I have a hard time making, like, big
- 9:12purchases like that. And as I'm thinking about, like, doing
- 9:16this, he's been doing opening the boxes and putting these
- 9:19together and all these things for me while I'm like, you know,
- 9:22doing other things. And he said, I think I just haven't even
- 9:27worked out this week. And I was like, Okay, you need to not do
- 9:30anything today. Crazy. Like, just go, just take the day and
- 9:34just do what you need to do for you. And so I think my second
- 9:37tip for us is, like, because I think you and Andrew do it too
- 9:40for each other. Like, look out for like, what does my spouse
- 9:42need? And giving them permission to do that as a parent, because
- 9:46they're also a person. Well, your
- 9:48spouse knows you the best and and we can, it's been 13 years.
- 9:54It's been 15 years together. We can start to, I finally feel
- 9:57like I could start to identify patterns. Where I'm like, oh,
- 10:01you know, maybe there's like a seasonal thing where it's like,
- 10:03every December, this is how, how somebody's mood goes, or
- 10:07there's, what am I trying to say, anniversaries of things
- 10:12that can affect people. You know, I come from like, a
- 10:15background of studying sociology, social work, trauma,
- 10:20and I really think about like, supporting people
- 10:22psychologically, and the whole picture of what makes you a
- 10:26happy person, it's not just your physical health, it's also your
- 10:30mental health, your community and your spirituality. So all of
- 10:34those things need to be in place, and I can start to see
- 10:36how the dynamics play out after 15 years, and be a reflection
- 10:41for them, saying, noticing this, maybe I can help you this way.
- 10:45Yeah. And, of course, the same thing, you know, we reflect for
- 10:48each other, yeah, I think that's really a partner is very
- 10:50important. Yeah, it's really important, and it's really
- 10:52important to figure out how to get to that place. I was talking
- 10:56to somebody last week at a conference, and I could just
- 10:59tell she was struggling with her business, and I was kind of
- 11:02asking her some questions, and I could tell, just from experience
- 11:06and time, because I'm not young, yeah, that it, there's, it's
- 11:10real tension in the marriage, and that's probably causing and
- 11:13so I think it's important a lot of people go through life and
- 11:16they're like, this is just, is what it is. Like, we're just not
- 11:19ever going to communicate great. And like, you know, you just
- 11:23kind of choose to be okay with it not being great. And I think
- 11:27one thing that we've done, and I think you and Andrew do the same
- 11:30thing, is really make an effort to figure out, how do I make it
- 11:33great? Like, I remember you saying to me at some point, I
- 11:36don't know who knows when, but like, I if there's one thing I'm
- 11:39going to do great in my life like that. I want to be great.
- 11:42It's gonna be my marriage. And I thought I still sounds like me.
- 11:45I still hear that today, and I think, well, yeah, it should be,
- 11:49and I know that it's not for everybody, but that I do think
- 11:53makes a major difference, because I have this solid
- 11:56foundation of this person who cannot wait to hear what I did
- 12:00today, or wants to talk about it and wants to take the burden
- 12:02off. And you know that is so powerful. He texts me this
- 12:06morning. We I send him a text every morning that's like,
- 12:09something I just say, like, Thank you for taking such good
- 12:12care of me, or, like, something that's on our on my mind. So
- 12:15it's like, appreciative. And so we start our day like that with
- 12:18this exchange a word of affirmation, yes, because
- 12:20usually I'm up and at the gym and he's up after, like, right
- 12:23after me, but we don't, you're
- 12:25endorphin rush. You dump it on your husband. Yeah? It starts,
- 12:28it starts things good, yeah, exactly. It starts at the day.
- 12:31But he said, like, have a great day during your podcast today,
- 12:34you know, like, have fun. I know your sister's there. I know you
- 12:37guys can have fun. It was just, it's just sweet to have that
- 12:39Yeah. So I think that foundation of a partner is really a life
- 12:43hack with everything else that we're doing, right? Yeah, of
- 12:46course, yeah. So let's jump into some of our daily habits that
- 12:52keep us grounded. So as we talked about the first thing
- 12:56being prioritizing what you need, second thing having that
- 12:59support system. And it may not be a spouse. Not everybody has a
- 13:01partner or spouse, but have a friend or an accountability
- 13:04partner, someone I know dad plays a big role for me. He's my
- 13:07I say he's my business coach. Somebody asked me last week, do
- 13:09you think he could coach me? And I was like, No, he doesn't
- 13:12actually coach business he's just my dad. But yeah, probably
- 13:16would for free. I know because he's the most shirt off his
- 13:19back. He literally is the most generous, kind person. I'm like,
- 13:22so honored.
- 13:23Yeah, yeah. I'm like, Dad, you have to be like, I like, shame
- 13:27about about it. Sometimes. I'm like, no boundaries at all. Dad,
- 13:31he did read the book boundaries. I know it was life changing for
- 13:34him. He like, told me about he did. He didn't tell me about it,
- 13:36yeah. How funny is that? A little bit I can't remember the
- 13:39details. I'm gonna ask you to dig him up and let you know how
- 13:42it came up. Shame on me, because
- 13:43I didn't ask him about it. Like he reads after I read a book in
- 13:46my audible, he reads it so, like he just continues to read my
- 13:50library. But I need to ask him about it. So, yeah, our dad is
- 13:53literally the most kind, giving, generous person I think, I think
- 13:58I've ever met. I mean, I really think that dad puts humans
- 14:03besides himself before himself at all costs.
- 14:07Almost, yeah, yeah. It really drives him, and I think that's
- 14:10one of the things I want to talk about, like finding what you
- 14:15were talking about, an accountability partner, finding
- 14:18what makes you feel obligated to keep up with your routine,
- 14:23because the things that we do to take care of ourselves are
- 14:27really easy to quit. This is just This is just a fact of
- 14:31life, like the stuff that's worth doing and makes a
- 14:34difference is really hard to keep up with, but the secret to
- 14:38it all is consistency. The more that you do it, the easier it
- 14:43gets to do. I listened to a couple podcasts a long time ago
- 14:47that really shaped how I think about this stuff. One of them
- 14:50was about habit stacking. I'll talk about that in a second. And
- 14:54the other one just the the note the person, the expert was
- 14:58saying, is. With, specifically with an exercise routine. The
- 15:03hardest part, the hardest time, the one, the part when it's most
- 15:07at risk, is when you have to take a break and you're
- 15:11confronted with, do I start again? For some reason, that
- 15:14restart feels so much harder than it did when you were in the
- 15:19flow. So specifically, you go on vacation, you don't work out on
- 15:23vacation, when you come back, how do you make sure that you
- 15:26get back into your routine? And it could be exercise, or it
- 15:29could be taking your vitamins or whatever, meditation, like
- 15:33anything that takes you out of your routine, can you get back
- 15:36into it so mentally, knowing the restart is going to be harder,
- 15:41like preparing yourself to say, I'm not going to want to do it.
- 15:45I'm going to forget how good it feels to be in the consistent
- 15:48flow, and I'm going to make myself do it anyway, and setting
- 15:51that bar really low. So if it's working out, maybe it's I'm
- 15:54going to set my clothes out and I'm going to go to the gym for
- 15:58five minutes. Literally, I have done that so many times, where
- 16:01I'm like, I don't feel like it, especially babies up at night.
- 16:04I'm nursing like, you know, postpartum, I don't want to work
- 16:08out. Or even maybe I'm like, a little under the weather, not,
- 16:12you know, no fever, but just like, should I? Should I not?
- 16:15I'll be like, I'll go for five minutes. And if five minutes in
- 16:18I want to quit, I can quit. It's showing up. And we were talking
- 16:21about the power of just showing up often, just just being in the
- 16:26right place. You can follow through on your own, yeah, if
- 16:29you don't rely on motivation. Yeah? I think habit stacking is
- 16:33a huge life hack. We talked about that, yeah, you and I talk
- 16:36about it all the time. Anytime I want to start something new,
- 16:39That's literally how I do it. Okay, so you got me connected to
- 16:43we're going to be in true form for Ashley and Lindsay. We're
- 16:47going to be all over the place with the topics, because we both
- 16:50are ADHD, yeah, don't create an outline for this, no, but one of
- 16:55the things we
- 16:55love is the red light mask you it's your favorite product, and
- 17:00I use it every single morning, and when you kept convincing me
- 17:03that I needed to, I was like, All right, so I think Dave got
- 17:06them the neck and the face one for my birthday. So since
- 17:09August, I've been doing it, and my first thought was, When am I
- 17:12going to do it? That's going to be routine. And so anytime I'm
- 17:14teaching someone or coaching someone on implementing
- 17:18something new or different, yeah, the routine. So example
- 17:21would be, Ben's driving, right? He's going to be 16 and just a
- 17:25few days. And so when he drives out of the garage and gets ready
- 17:31to leave the driveway, My habit is I do not tell him to close
- 17:35the garage door until he's starting to pull out of the
- 17:37driveway, because if he's missed it, I want his cue to be I get
- 17:40to the end of the driveway, I close the garage door. And so
- 17:43we're leaving the other day, and Dave's with us, and Dave's in
- 17:46the backseat. I get to be the passenger princess with both the
- 17:48boys driving. And so Dave always sits in the back so I can sit
- 17:51next to Ben. And he told it in the middle of the driveway, he's
- 17:54like, garage door. And I was like, I always wait till we get
- 17:56to the end of the driveway, because I want him to have that
- 17:59connection. Yeah. And so anytime you're starting something new,
- 18:01habit stacking is really important. So with red light
- 18:04mask being one of the things that we both do every day, I
- 18:07think the only time I don't do it is if I'm traveling for three
- 18:10days, I'll do it before I leave, and I'll do it the night I come
- 18:13home, so I might skip a day. But for the most does travel pretty
- 18:17well. I had to go on one time. Well, yeah, but it's so easy to
- 18:21charge. Yeah, it's just an iPhone, and it's only 10 minutes
- 18:23that it stays on for. So it's just when I'm trying, I only do
- 18:27carry on. So like, occasionally it's like, I just don't, I'm not
- 18:30gonna mess with you in one day, but it's part of my morning
- 18:33routine. So like, I do my eye patches, and then I do my mask,
- 18:37and usually during that time, I'm like listening to my Bible,
- 18:42because I do the Bible every day, read the listen to it every
- 18:45day, and then the devotional that goes with it. And then I'm
- 18:48doing I'm usually starting laundry, making my mushroom
- 18:51coffee, which is another daily for me, the bravenly Mushroom
- 18:56coffee. I make that, and then I turn the lights off in the
- 18:59house, like the ones that we leave on at night and we keep
- 19:02our This sounds so silly that I'm talking about this every
- 19:04day, but we have a basket of snacks for delivery drivers that
- 19:08we keep out all the time. I have to bring it in at night because
- 19:11we have raccoons, and I've learned my lesson because it's
- 19:14been gone, so I usually replenish that in the morning.
- 19:17You do that all year. Yeah, that's so nice we I mean,
- 19:22yeah, I have had so many delivery driver, yeah, we do get
- 19:24a lot of, a lot of boxes, and I've had so many people say,
- 19:27what a difference it makes. It's like, it's such a small thing,
- 19:30and now it's like, a habit. Yeah, I don't even really think
- 19:32about it. It's just I, I fill that and put it back out and so
- 19:37red light mask. I use eye patches every day. I also do,
- 19:40what's the stone that you use to, like the Gua Sha gua Shai.
- 19:43So they do that in the morning and at night. What else do you
- 19:47do? The eye patches under the red light mask? No. Okay, good.
- 19:50So I do the eye patches literally, like, I wake up,
- 19:53brush my teeth, put my, well, I put my eye patches on first.
- 19:56Brush my teeth. Put my gym clothes on without like, shoes
- 19:58and everything. I don't even give. Myself a minute to like,
- 20:01yeah, it's like, you get right in your your gym outfit, and
- 20:05then I do, I like, get dressed. I forget what else I do. I think
- 20:09that's it. Like, I brush my teeth. By the time I'm like, go
- 20:11to the bathroom, get dressed, brush my teeth. It's 10 minutes.
- 20:14And then I take those off, yeah. Then I wash my face, then I put
- 20:17my red light mask on, and then you do your skincare after then
- 20:20after my red light mask, I've got my coffee and I do my
- 20:23skincare while I am like, I listen to my Bible, if it's not
- 20:27done yet, and otherwise, I put a podcast on our book, and wash my
- 20:32face, do my my skincare routine, and yeah, and then go to the
- 20:37gym.
- 20:38Yeah. I think if it's not stacked, I don't do it me too.
- 20:42This is the thing I've been trying to fit in longer
- 20:46meditation sessions, and it is top of mind, and I can't do a
- 20:50longer meditation session every day. It's not stackable for me.
- 20:54So I try to fit it in on the regular things that happen on
- 20:58the weekend, because weekends sort of have their own flow. A
- 21:02lot of the things I can control in the morning, I'm still doing
- 21:05every morning, but the weekends. You know, it depends what we're
- 21:09committed to as a family, what obligations we have and how
- 21:12everybody's feeling, but we do have nap time, so that's one of
- 21:15the things where I can usually try to fit in a long meditation
- 21:19set session with binaural beats, which you last night.
- 21:22Were like, I'm gonna ask you about that. So do it? I was
- 21:24like, that's not happening. I'm at a basketball game. I know I
- 21:26want to ask you more about that, but we'll talk about we'll have
- 21:29to table that for next time. I guess I think you you have a
- 21:32different pace on the weekends, where it's like, not because you
- 21:35don't have to be at work. So there's a little more flexible.
- 21:37I feel the same way Dad and I meet our commitment is 6am to go
- 21:41to the gym Monday through Friday, yeah. And then on the
- 21:43weekends, we have to say it the night before, otherwise, I will
- 21:47just start doing stuff around the house. Weekends are
- 21:49optional. Weekends are optional, yeah? So I do five days in terms
- 21:54of, like, movement. I do five days of strength training. I
- 21:56usually do three lower body and two upper body. And I try to do
- 21:5910 minutes of core every one of those days. Today, I made the
- 22:03decision because I had to be here early for hair and makeup,
- 22:06and I made the decision to do the sauna instead of core. So I
- 22:10was like, I'll just add that tomorrow, I'll work out in some
- 22:13Dave. And I know we'll work out because we're not golfing
- 22:15tomorrow, so I know we'll work out together. So I'll probably
- 22:17get six days in, but I'm doing the sauna today, so that's
- 22:20another thing I added in this year. Was 60 minutes in the
- 22:23sauna and per week, and so I break it up into 320 minute
- 22:28sessions. It's the last five minutes I'm really hot and
- 22:31sweaty and, like, I just want to get out of there, and my phone
- 22:34is dead at that point because it's overheated.
- 22:36So like, what temperature is your sauna at 151 or 152
- 22:40Yeah, it's pretty hot. And I turn it on before I go to the
- 22:43gym, so then when I come back, it's totally hot. Yeah, yep. So
- 22:46I do that 60 minutes a week, and it's not something I enjoy, but
- 22:50I'm growing to enjoy the time, not the heat, but like I have 20
- 22:56minutes to sit here and shop or whatever I feel like doing it's
- 23:01like a break. A lot of times I work. I'm on the phone with
- 23:04Carrie or something, but that's one thing I work in three days a
- 23:08week, so I usually do it on hair washing days. Well, I
- 23:11got really interested in the habit stacking idea when I heard
- 23:15about this experiment they did, and it was so long ago that I
- 23:18won't remember any of the specifics, but they did this
- 23:21experiment with college kids, and they gave them a book, like
- 23:25a very addictive book, like Harry Potter was one of the ones
- 23:29they gave them, and they locked it in the locker at the gym, and
- 23:32they said, like, you have to read this book, or you have to
- 23:35work out. Your goal is to work out. When you work out, you can
- 23:38read this book. And then they didn't give the book to anyone
- 23:41else, so to the other cohort in the in the experiment, and
- 23:46people who have the book as the motivation to stack on top of
- 23:51their cardio did a lot more cardio. There were a lot more
- 23:54successful. And they gave other examples of pairing something
- 23:58you don't want to do with something that you do you want
- 24:00to do in order to make it more appealing and consistent? So one
- 24:04of the examples was, if you love beer, and you try to limit your
- 24:09beer every time you get out the vacuum, and you're vacuuming
- 24:12your house, you can have a beer with it, and you you will start
- 24:15to condition yourself, like Pavlov's dogs, to actually
- 24:19anticipate the reward with the action. So you can hack your
- 24:22brain this way to like you're saying with Ben, the trigger for
- 24:27closing the garage door is leaving the driveway. So there
- 24:31are lots of ways that this has worked. I have a friend who was
- 24:35trying to remember to take their medication, a really important
- 24:38medication. We were all mad at this friend for not taking their
- 24:41medication. You know, we're on the journey with them, and I'm
- 24:44like, can you please put it next to your toothbrush? And the
- 24:49friend tells me, I have taken my medication every day for the
- 24:53last 30 days because I said it next to my toothbrush. I can't
- 24:56believe I didn't think of this on my own. So it's things like
- 24:59that you. Know, you drink coffee every day. If you want to start
- 25:02taking one of the critical vitamins for your health, put it
- 25:06next to your coffee, and then take it with your coffee. It's
- 25:10once you kind of unlock this concept, you can start unlocking
- 25:14other levels in your life. I think that you and I, a lot of
- 25:18people ask me, How do you stay motivated to work out. Or people
- 25:21ask the world, I follow a lot of fitness influencers, and they're
- 25:24like, how do I get motivated? Or I'm on Facebook, on one of my
- 25:28favorite Facebook pages, and they're like, I really want to
- 25:30start working out. I know I need to. How do I get motivated to do
- 25:34this? And everyone who is actually doing it says, Why are
- 25:39you relying on motivation? We don't feel like working out
- 25:43discipline. Yeah, right. It's like, I'm not motivated to brush
- 25:46my teeth every day. I'm motivated to not have cavities,
- 25:50so I have the discipline to brush my teeth every day. So
- 25:53choose what you want to do. Set the bar really low and start
- 25:57stacking it on top of the things you've already designed your
- 25:59life to to put into practice every day. I also think people
- 26:04get very discouraged sometimes when I have conversations with
- 26:07them about my fitness routine, because it is very time
- 26:11consuming. I just got my whoop. I saw Yeah, and it was like 220
- 26:17hours of walking and about or 250 of walking and 220 of
- 26:21weightlifting, and that doesn't count anything I didn't log,
- 26:24which is a lot that I didn't log. So this is a big time
- 26:28commitment. A while ago, I wanted to take my I saw this,
- 26:32like, arbitrary statistic that was like, actual athletes work
- 26:36out at least. I don't know what it was. I can't remember. It
- 26:39was, like, at least two hours, I don't know, average a day or
- 26:44something, something. And I was like, I can do this. And I
- 26:47started. I got the walking pad, and I started making sure I
- 26:49walked an hour a day, and I did it. It was easy because I
- 26:52stacked it on top of other things. But I didn't start out
- 26:55working out two hours a day. I started out working out one or
- 27:00two fitness classes a week, or four fitness classes a week, you
- 27:04can get a lot of exercise benefits from 20 minutes three
- 27:08times a week, or 30 minutes three times a week. It really is
- 27:12exponentially more than the average person is doing. It's a
- 27:15lot more approachable than it looks when you look at someone
- 27:18like us who's been doing it for 15 years, right?
- 27:21Yeah, no, I, you know when I it's funny because fitness is
- 27:24dad and I were talking about this. There's this Dad and son
- 27:27that come into the gym every morning together in the boys in
- 27:29fifth grade, and that's cute. Dad's like, good job. I wish I
- 27:34had done more of that when I was my kids were little, and I was
- 27:37like, Dad, all five of your kids work out on a regular basis like
- 27:40you did, just fine. Stop being so hard on yourself, but it's
- 27:44really sweet. Dad always wants to, like, recognize people. He's
- 27:46so sweet. But I did not work out. I mean, when, when Dave and
- 27:51I met, I was like, The gym is gross. You walked a lot because
- 27:55you had I was in I was in retail, and I was a store
- 27:58manager, and so I was before that, I was an assistant store
- 28:02manager, and so I was running around stores all day long. So I
- 28:06was naturally, you know, pretty thin, and just never, I was
- 28:10never strong, but I was like, fine. I never really needed to
- 28:13work out. I remember when I got promoted to a DM, and Kim Kiefer
- 28:16said, don't gain the freshman, freshman 15, because you're all
- 28:19of a sudden going to be in your car all the time. And guess what
- 28:22happened exactly that? And so. But anyways, when I had been,
- 28:26which was right before then I had been and then I was
- 28:28promoted, right away, I started going to the gym because I was
- 28:32like, Okay, well, I have to lose the last of this baby weight.
- 28:35And I started by saying, I'm gonna go for 21 days without
- 28:38quitting. I remember this, yes, living with Yeah, you were
- 28:41living with me. And so I would go 430 in the morning. Yeah,
- 28:44right. And so then again, it just 16 years later, here we
- 28:47are, and it's still part of our routine. But I think, to your
- 28:50point, it doesn't have to a lot of times I've worked with my
- 28:52coaching clients and said, All right, this week, or these two
- 28:55weeks before we meet again, I want you to be doing 10 push
- 28:57ups, 10 sit ups and 10 squats every day. Yeah, that's right,
- 29:00that's a great starting point. Just start with that body
- 29:02weight, and Mary, who you've, I think you've met Mary. Mary has
- 29:06lost 120 something pounds, maybe it's 150 actually, and now she
- 29:11goes to the gym every day, and it's like such a habit. And
- 29:14she's made this happen from something very, very small that
- 29:18she's morphed into a daily habit. And I think one piece
- 29:22that makes it easier when you're trying to do something,
- 29:25especially physical fitness, is an accountability partner. And
- 29:29for me, I have dad like, we live next door, we work out together
- 29:33every day. That's our that's our 6am call, yeah. And then on the
- 29:37weekends, Dave and I really push each other to be like, if we're
- 29:40not going to golf or play tennis, we're going to work out.
- 29:42To work out together. We're doing something physical
- 29:44together, and you have a similar story with your accountability
- 29:48partner, yeah?
- 29:50Well, I didn't have an accountability No, for a long
- 29:52time, but for me, working out was social, and that this goes
- 29:56back to habit stacking because I wanted a community. I'm very.
- 30:00Community driven. So I did a lot of group classes. So it wasn't
- 30:03that I saw the same person there every day, it was that I said
- 30:06hello to the teacher, and I got an endorphin rush and just those
- 30:09little connection points that made my day better because
- 30:12someone said, Hi Ashley, or just waved at me, yeah. And even if
- 30:15it was just the check in person at 5am and I was just going to
- 30:18the to the floor of the gym, so a really good way in is fitness
- 30:23classes, because you build community from there. For me,
- 30:27it's about I work out with one of my best friends, Holly, every
- 30:31day. I can't believe yes, we do seven days. We do seven days,
- 30:37yeah? Well, on Wednesdays, I work out with Megan,
- 30:40so we do six days, but I do seven days. Yeah, that's
- 30:43awesome. Yeah, and on, it's just walking on the weekends. Yeah,
- 30:46that's good. Isn't that such a good I always think that's like
- 30:49a break, like, when dad's like, I the headache. I'm like, just
- 30:51go walk. Like, it'll still feel like, movement, yes, it's hard
- 30:54because it's been cold, so I don't it's like, we're playing
- 30:57it by ear. We're trying to and they have a rule at our gym that
- 30:59you can only be on the cardio equipment for 30 minutes if
- 31:02somebody is waiting, which is a fair, that is fair, but we're we
- 31:06don't always know. So I'm like, let's go to my studio and dance.
- 31:10I keep trying to get her, Oh my gosh, wait, has she done it?
- 31:12Dance? She says that she will do it. It's coming. Finally find a
- 31:17video of somebody doing it, and be like, because I Okay, yeah,
- 31:20oh yeah, yeah. I forgot you have that, yeah. So mom came over
- 31:24twice this week and used our basement. So we have, like, an
- 31:27actual treadmill in the gym. And then in my office, I have a
- 31:30walking path, right? And I use them both if Dad and I for some
- 31:33reason, like if he's traveling and I won't go to the
- 31:36neighborhood gym, I'll just go to my basement gym, and I use it
- 31:39a lot in between sets. And then the one in my gym, in my office
- 31:42I use all the time. Like the walking pad is definitely for
- 31:46me. It's a huge life hack for footsteps and health. Yeah, I
- 31:49feel like it's the same for you.
- 31:51It's the same for me. I love well and for focus. I have ADHD,
- 31:55if I need to be in a meeting that I know will be
- 31:58boring, that will be hard to hold your attention.
- 32:01Yeah, that and I'll I'm a trainer too, so even when I'm
- 32:06sitting in trainings, I realize it's just hard to focus
- 32:11sometimes, and the phone is such a distraction, so I try to stay
- 32:14focused and moving well I am learning or listening is a great
- 32:18hack. If you have trouble staying focused. We don't need
- 32:22to be focused all the time at our job 100% but sometimes I do
- 32:25need, need that. And the movement the walking pad has
- 32:28been such a good way to to help me not feel stressed about
- 32:32trying to focus, and to make it easier to
- 32:34focus, I do the same thing ash. I mean, it's honestly like if
- 32:37I'm in an internal meeting, so meaning it's my team, and it's
- 32:42not a client meeting, or it's not a meeting with an external
- 32:47partner. I'm walking on my treadmill almost every time, and
- 32:51I do think 100% it's interesting, because we've not
- 32:53said this to each other, but I have said that to people like
- 32:56this keeps me focused. It actually keeps me from being
- 32:59distracted. If I am moving my feet and I can walk at a very
- 33:04reasonable pace and get two miles in an hour, yeah, and I'm
- 33:08not, like, right? It's distracted. Yeah, it's just
- 33:12happening, and that has been a huge factor. I'd like to know
- 33:16how many miles I logged on my walking pad this year, because I
- 33:20would say, on average, if I'm in the office, it's probably three
- 33:24to five miles a day. Yeah, that I walk in there. How about you?
- 33:29I don't know. I usually look at the steps, and I keep track on
- 33:32my watch too. I have no idea. I usually try for an hour, and it
- 33:36will kind of depend on my activity level that day, whether
- 33:41what speed I'm going at, and whether I have to talk, and
- 33:43then, honestly, sometimes, whether I feel like getting
- 33:45sweaty, because, yeah, sweat so easily.
- 33:48Yeah, I know it is hard. I feel like in the sauna, that's when I
- 33:51have to, like, really think about it, because I sweat in the
- 33:53sauna, and I don't want that. Yeah, I know it's good for you.
- 33:56So walking pad, we talked about red light masks,
- 33:59another thing I really appreciate or feel like
- 34:02optimizes me so I can be my best and serve everyone else. Is
- 34:08nutrition and yeah, and vitamins and supplements. There's a few
- 34:13key that I follow. Somebody named, bless you. Thank you.
- 34:16Rhonda Patrick, and she's very scientific, very data oriented.
- 34:22She talks about, like, some of the key supplements you should
- 34:25be taking, so fish oil, magnesium, of just a regular
- 34:30vitamin and vitamin D, so all of these things she'll outline,
- 34:35like, what improves with your cell function? Back to the red
- 34:38light. Like, yeah, it's all about making sure we can kind of
- 34:41decrease the damage and optimize our cell function, because those
- 34:45are the the pieces of our body, and if they're working
- 34:47correctly, then our body is I don't want my body to be the
- 34:50thing holding me back from being my best self. So taking care of
- 34:54my body is the number one priority so that I can take care
- 34:57of everyone else. And one of those things is. Vitamins and
- 35:00supplements. And, I mean, I can swallow like, 15 vitamins in one
- 35:05gulp. And, you know, it's just, I take a lot of them. I feel
- 35:09like they make a difference.
- 35:10I hate taking pills. Like I literally hate it. I would do an
- 35:15injection over a pill. If you could say to me, Lindsay, I'll
- 35:17put all those vitamins, yeah, in a vial. And you can inject it
- 35:21every day, or you can swallow these pills. I would choose the
- 35:24injection all day long.
- 35:26Well, you have many more opportunities to do that now,
- 35:28because these peptides. And I was just
- 35:30gonna say, it's a perfect conversation. I do take fish
- 35:34oils, one that I just it's such a big pill, yes. So I have,
- 35:38like, the little pill separators. I have day and
- 35:40night. Yes, me too. And I find a lot of times before I'm going to
- 35:44bed, I'm like, I don't want to take pills because it might not
- 35:46sit well, yes, in my breast. So I try to do it before dinner,
- 35:50or, like, around dinner time. Yeah, but the fish oil is one
- 35:54that I'm always like, I don't want to take that one. It's so
- 35:56big you can take a liquid and put it in your like, oh, that
- 35:58sounds delicious. It's not bad. It's not it could I do have a
- 36:02shake every day. Yeah? And part of as we talk about supplements
- 36:06I have, I always say I use the bravenly products, but I have
- 36:10gold, which is apple cider vinegar, ginger and turmeric,
- 36:13yeah, with greens, which I still need to get you those, because
- 36:16they're literally the only greens that I can stomach
- 36:18without feeling sick. Yes, I haven't had a lot of vegetables
- 36:21lately. I don't eat vegetables hardly ever colostrum, and then
- 36:25the protein has, like, all kinds of stuff in it. So I do that,
- 36:31and I know you do this also,
- 36:34what's it called the powder after you work out, creatine.
- 36:37Yeah. So that's all every day in the shake. And then I take a
- 36:41bunch of the same things that you're talking about and a
- 36:44couple of others, and you're you say that your shake doesn't
- 36:47taste bad, right? No, it's really good, actually. Yeah. So
- 36:49this is another example, like the things that are good for us.
- 36:53If we're creative and persistent, we can find ways to
- 36:55make it not miserable, like something that you actually look
- 36:59forward to. Yeah, that's how I feel about my yogurt protein
- 37:02bowl. I have been making this protein for years, and I love
- 37:06it. It's Greek yogurt, it's protein powder and a couple of
- 37:10other things to make the flavor good. And it is like what else
- 37:13is in it, because I want to try it. Okay, so, Faye, non fat,
- 37:17Greek yogurt, 170 grams. Can I make a different brand this? To
- 37:20you. Well, I've tried many Faye is, what do you like? Why?
- 37:24Because it's thick. It has, like, a really good texture.
- 37:27Doesn't get watery, and it's not too, like, Yeah, I like that.
- 37:31Oh, he goes, Oh, he goes, good too, yeah, they make one that's
- 37:3520 grams, yeah, that's what I usually buy. I think that's,
- 37:38that's similar. That would work, yeah. And then 21 grams of
- 37:43whipped cream cheese, 12 grams cream cheese, yeah, so it's a
- 37:48little bit lighter, lighter, yeah, okay. And pudding mix,
- 37:52sugar free pudding mix, you could do regular if you don't
- 37:55like the like, fake sugar, yeah. And protein powder, so you mix
- 38:00this all together really, really well. So it forms like a
- 38:03cheesecake consistency. If you need to add a little bit of
- 38:06almond milk, you can sometimes I make it with pumpkin puree, and
- 38:09then I put pumpkin spice in it, and it's like a pumpkin
- 38:12cheesecake. I top mine with sugar free whipped cream. And I
- 38:17look forward to this every day. And it's about 35 grams of
- 38:20protein, and the macros are really good. It's like, 300
- 38:23calories, 35 grams of protein. It's amazing and very filling.
- 38:28And just like easy to prepare. I sometimes prepare four at a
- 38:31time, so I can, you know, go in in the morning, look forward to
- 38:35that after my workout, eat that right away, and then make
- 38:38lunches and feed everybody else. And I don't have to, so it's
- 38:42okay to meal prep for yourself too, like you don't have to do
- 38:45this all with your family. You don't have to eat what your kids
- 38:48are eating for breakfast. And think about the things that you
- 38:52can control that don't affect the other people in your life.
- 38:54And that's the way I've been able to optimize these choices.
- 38:57Now I don't have to choose my breakfast every morning. And
- 38:59same thing with lunch. I usually have the same lunch every day.
- 39:02It's just dinner that I change it up and it makes it so that I
- 39:06can easily hit my goals and not be like, Oh, I accidentally
- 39:09gained five pounds this month, and now I have to work harder
- 39:13and adjust things, yeah, because we all just want to be able to
- 39:15fit in the same clothes we bought and, like, feel confident
- 39:18about who we are, we don't want to. And this is true. When I
- 39:20worked in durable medical equipment, it's all about
- 39:25insurance reimbursement. So they would give you like, let's say,
- 39:29a walker. Somebody has to walk with a walker for the rest of
- 39:32their life. Let's say so they would expect, Medicare would
- 39:36expect that you would need the next level up Walker like that
- 39:40would hold more weight with a certain timeframe, because they
- 39:44believe, based on data, that that adults are gaining five
- 39:49pounds a year their whole life. So then they would be like,
- 39:52you're going to be over the threshold for this Walker in 10
- 39:55years. And I saw this and was like, That is not going to be
- 39:59me. You, hell no, I'm not gonna have a sneaky five pounds added
- 40:04to my life for the rest of my life. I don't like focusing on
- 40:07weight and size, like, I think health comes in many different
- 40:11forms, but for me, like, I know how I feel, and when I was
- 40:16heavier, it wasn't as easy to be alive and feel good, right?
- 40:20Well, I think, you know, I've been on a journey and lost
- 40:23almost 30 pounds in the last few years. Yeah, and when you pick
- 40:27up a 30 pound dumbbell, or 215 pound dumbbells, I fully
- 40:31acknowledge that it's not the same as carrying it on your
- 40:33body, but the reality of that's a lot of it's the same. I think
- 40:37so too it, but it's not exactly the same, because, you know,
- 40:40whatever, but it's distributed differently. Yes, they need
- 40:43weighted joints, all the things can be so it's so much more
- 40:48pressure to put on your body, and you're less motivated to do
- 40:52more stuff when you have more weight. So I think you and I are
- 40:56on the same page with that. I want to talk about the nutrition
- 41:01fact. And I think there's two parts from what you said. One is
- 41:06the nutrition and being routine with what you eat. I am very
- 41:10boring with what it's the same thing. I have a shake, and then
- 41:13I have, because of speed, Costco has these Starbucks fake I mean,
- 41:19they do also carry Starbucks ones. I just happen to, like,
- 41:22bites, their egg white bites, and I have two of those. And my
- 41:25shake for breakfast, that's I make my shake as soon as I get
- 41:29done with my workout. And then after I'm, like, ready for the
- 41:31for work, for the day, I eat my, usually, Dave and I eat
- 41:34breakfast together. And then for like, I usually for a snack, I
- 41:37have cottage cheese, and recently I've added pickles to
- 41:41it, and that is the best thing ever. It's remember we were
- 41:44talking about it? Yes, I forgot that I put pickles. I bought the
- 41:47right kind of pickles, like the dill pickles, the littler ones.
- 41:50It's freaking unbelievable. You're gonna be obsessed with
- 41:53it. So cottage cheese is usually a snack, and then it depends. A
- 41:57lot of times I'm out at a lunch with a client, so I typically am
- 42:00still pretty consistent I do like a salmon or grilled chicken
- 42:03salad. Yeah, that's pretty much what I eat most times.
- 42:06Yesterday, I went to an AI workshop to learn how to
- 42:09integrate AI into your business, and they had sandwiches and
- 42:13salads and nothing was gluten free. So I was like, Okay, I
- 42:16guess I'm eating my snacks that are in my bag, which I is
- 42:19another hack. I always have something healthy with me, so
- 42:23that I'm never in a position where I say I have to eat
- 42:26McDonald's, because that's all there is I and it's a choice.
- 42:29Then it's like, do you want to have McDonald's, or do you want
- 42:32to eat the protein? Because I always have the probiotic
- 42:35things, the little Yes, those are like, yogurt bites. Yes,
- 42:38Costco. I love those. Me too. And then the chicken, chicken
- 42:41sausage stick and a protein bar, and so I always have those with
- 42:45me, so I can always be fine if you're in a pinch. Yeah? And
- 42:49then for dinner, it's the same thing. We mix up. Dinner is not
- 42:52always consistent, yeah, but we prioritize protein. That's
- 42:55another thing. Both of us
- 42:56prioritize family dinner, and that's, that's why you know
- 42:59you're you have to consider what everybody will eat, true? Well,
- 43:03yeah, yeah.
- 43:03And so family dinner, we do talk about it usually on Sundays. I'm
- 43:07like, does anyone have any votes? Because if you don't, I'm
- 43:09choosing, and you're going to just take what you get. And I
- 43:11didn't used to do that. I used to try to cater a lot more, and
- 43:14now I don't. But even when Dave and I go out to eat, we're
- 43:18pretty consistent with what we eat and the portions, right?
- 43:21Like, it's pretty rare I'm going to eat more than half of a meal,
- 43:25and a lot of times we end up just splitting stuff, because I
- 43:28know it just neither of us are going to eat as much. I have a
- 43:31much bigger appetite than that. I'm a such a sucker for French
- 43:34fries. But the routine with food, I think, keeps me from
- 43:39keeps both of us, I think, the same from having that creep that
- 43:42weight creep in, but also, like, I know how I'm gonna feel when I
- 43:45eat these things, because I eat them all the time. I know how
- 43:47much I'm gonna feel okay eating. I don't just kind of react. And
- 43:51I think with how fast the world goes by, sometimes you eat an
- 43:54entire whatever, and you don't really pay attention to how
- 43:57you're feeling, and then you're like, Whoa. I'm too full. I
- 43:59shouldn't have eaten all that. Right? Yeah. So the second
- 44:02factor that I wanted to bring up is eliminating decisions that
- 44:06don't need to be made on a daily basis. And food is one of those
- 44:09things. So talk to us about other examples that you use,
- 44:13because I know you do to minimize the this is decision
- 44:17fatigue is a real thing. Yes. And if you think about, how do
- 44:20you prevent yourself from having to make more decisions than
- 44:23necessary each day? And food is one of those. Like, I don't
- 44:27think. I don't stand in front of the fridge and go, What am I
- 44:29going to have for breakfast today? Hmm, even dinner. I'm
- 44:32like, okay, these are on a rotation. This is tonight. I've
- 44:34already gotten it pre that's good. This is what we're doing.
- 44:37I usually am pretty consistent. I need to adopt that. We really
- 44:40need, like a dinner calendar, and then to plan the groceries
- 44:44and all of this, I have grocery delivery. I do Walmart, plus
- 44:47they deliver to my door. They make it so easy for me to order
- 44:51the same thing over and over again. So all of those
- 44:53decisions, like going to the grocery store, when you have
- 44:55ADHD and you have kids with you, is really hard. Like. You have
- 45:00to have a plan. You can do it. You can definitely do it, but
- 45:03you should have a plan. And if I rely on 8pm Ashley to make a
- 45:08decision. APM, Ashley is terrible at decisions, like she
- 45:12needs to be off the clock, yeah. 4am Ashley is excellent, very
- 45:16good at decision. 5am I am peaking. It's great, but by 8am
- 45:21a PM, I'm off, I'm I won't, I don't trust that person.
- 45:25So the decision planning ahead, so that the decisions that you
- 45:29have to make are the only ones that you have to make that day,
- 45:32like the ones that you don't expect. And when you're working
- 45:35and you're in a meeting and you're making decisions and
- 45:38you're advising people, and you're determining how to spend
- 45:41your time for the day. Those are the decisions that that I want
- 45:44my brain power to go to, not what I'm going to eat and
- 45:47whether or not I'm going to work out that day, that stuff. And
- 45:50then you lead yourself to disappointment, like, how many
- 45:52times you have people who are like, I've been really bad. I
- 45:55didn't work out for the last week. I didn't, you know, I all
- 45:59the time. It was cookies for lunch the last week, or they was
- 46:03at work and they had this, and so I ate that instead of lunch.
- 46:05And you know, when you have these options already planned
- 46:08out, you don't end up in that situation as much, or you feel
- 46:11empowered to make that choice when it happens, right? You
- 46:14know, because it's your default to already make the good
- 46:16decision and which is stacked on top of the habit.
- 46:20Well, when you set up and go and say, I'll give an A not food
- 46:24example, yeah, but when you set yourself up and say, I know this
- 46:27is going to happen, so how am I going to combat that? And food
- 46:30is a great you know you're going I don't go anywhere to work. I
- 46:33at social things. I mean, yesterday I did go to a meeting.
- 46:35There's there's food there. But I'm gluten free, so that for me,
- 46:38eliminates a lot of those impulsive decisions, and I've
- 46:41been gluten free for 16 years. So before gluten free was a
- 46:44thing, I had been gluten free it was after I had been I just
- 46:47couldn't tolerate it anymore. And so I've been gluten free for
- 46:5016 years. It's great, honestly, there are so many, yeah, and
- 46:57like, I'm never gonna be tempted to eat a donut, because they're
- 47:00just I will feel horrible. Yeah, I can't do it, but I think about
- 47:04the barriers that we know are going to happen. So for us, like
- 47:08we go to church of the city, and there's, if anyone knows, Church
- 47:12of the city, Franklin is under major construction right now,
- 47:15building the village, which is incredible, but it's already a
- 47:19barrier for us to physically get to church of the city on
- 47:22Sundays, because it's about 35 minutes right then, you add in
- 47:25walking from the massive parking lot, and it's, we're talking 45
- 47:28minutes before the sermon. If we're going to get there and get
- 47:31coffee and get there, get sit down. I don't drink coffee, but
- 47:34my husband does, so he wants coffee at church. So he has
- 47:38stacked that habit. Yeah, it really is. You get a reward, and
- 47:41when he's in a meeting, that's when he drinks coffee. Like, if
- 47:44he has to sit in a meeting, that's when he has his coffee,
- 47:47and which is, anyways, interesting, but we've we found
- 47:52ourselves, like, coming up with excuses like, oh, you know, and
- 47:56we have kids in sports, so, like, a lot of times, Sunday is
- 47:59the only day when I'll have to leave our house, and we are home
- 48:02buddies. So we decided this year, default is virtual church
- 48:07at 1030 on our couch, and unless we say otherwise, that's what's
- 48:10happening on Sundays. And just putting that expectation and
- 48:14saying this was too hard for us right now, it's just the season
- 48:17that we're in, this is hard, but this is the next best thing. So
- 48:20this is what we're going to stick with, and we don't need to
- 48:23make a decision. It's what we're doing. The other thing is, it's
- 48:26on the calendar working out whatever, whatever the habit is
- 48:30that you're trying to create. Today, I had sauna and washed my
- 48:34hair before I started this podcast, and I did not feel like
- 48:38doing that, but it's on my calendar, so I do it because I
- 48:41know the smart me when I was thinking about what I really
- 48:45want more, not what I want. Now, put that on my calendar. Yeah, I
- 48:48want the health benefits of being in the sauna for 60
- 48:51minutes a week. I don't feel like doing it, but I know I
- 48:53should, yeah. And so using your calendar, and just saying, if
- 48:57it's on there, I'm going to treat it like a doctor's
- 48:59appointment and I'm going to it is another tip, commitment
- 49:02to yourself. And yeah, people really, I know people struggle
- 49:05with that, and they would, I have friends that would show up
- 49:08for me, you know, even if they didn't want to, but they won't
- 49:11show up for themselves. And that's why I think it's
- 49:14important to lower the bar. And you know, as we go into the new
- 49:18year and people think about who do they want to be next December
- 49:21or think I want people to think about lowering the bar, and what
- 49:25is the entry point for that habit? Not I want to work out
- 49:29two hours a day, but what can I do right now, like tomorrow, to
- 49:33fit 20 minutes of activity in? And one great example,
- 49:37lunchtime, like all of us are taking lunch, we all hopefully
- 49:41know that it's great to get a little bit of walking in after
- 49:44you eat. It's great for digestion and blood sugar. This
- 49:47is an opportune time to do a little bit of activity right
- 49:51after you eat before you go back to work. It makes work a lot
- 49:54smoother when you just move your body and get the blood flowing a
- 49:57little bit. Is that something you can commit to for? 10
- 50:00minutes a day, five days a week. Yeah. And then that the amazing
- 50:04thing about being human, and like the way that the world
- 50:07works, the way that existence works, is these things add up
- 50:11over time, and suddenly you've walked five times in a week.
- 50:14Suddenly it's easier to say, want to go for a walk together,
- 50:17and you're walking an hour instead of 10 minutes. It really
- 50:21the momentum, like becomes a factor in all of this. And
- 50:25you'll find that these small choices lead to bigger,
- 50:29excellent outcomes that you can't really predict, but you
- 50:32just have to get started. That's the that's the thing. Make a
- 50:35couple of choices. The new year is the time when everybody's
- 50:38going to pressure you into what do you want to change? And I
- 50:41know that there's a whole like narrative around we don't need
- 50:45to change, like, just be happy with who you are. But I I'm
- 50:49obsessed with growth, and I think all of us can be a little
- 50:52bit better than we were last year. So pick something that
- 50:56that actually serves you. Don't let it be guilt, but think about
- 50:59what can I give to myself this year. Can I give a little bit of
- 51:02activity so that I don't gain five pounds like every other
- 51:06Yeah, person, well, we're
- 51:08habitual, and the older we get, I love your points. And the
- 51:10older we get, the easier it becomes to just do what we've
- 51:14always done. And then you turn around and you're like, Wow, I
- 51:18can't believe I'm doing that. Or why? What is the purpose, and so
- 51:21one of my best practices is that in December, I mean, I probably
- 51:25drive my entire team and my husband crazy because I'm
- 51:29literally thinking about every activity, every thing we're
- 51:32spending money on, every behavior that's happening, every
- 51:36habit we have, how we're spending every hour I have our
- 51:39trips and vacations planned for the entire year. That makes him
- 51:42insane. He's like, just keep me through January, please. But all
- 51:45those things I analyze, what can we do better? And I think about,
- 51:50I don't know if I've told you this, but when I teach, I've
- 51:53done this for several years, but when I teach planning sessions
- 51:57for months, quarters, years, I look at six categories. And
- 52:01there's six categories that I break down. What are my goals
- 52:03this year? In that category, and I've done this for many, many
- 52:06years, it's faith, family, fitness and fitness and health,
- 52:10finance, business and community. So within those six categories,
- 52:13what are my goals? What did I do this year that worked really
- 52:16well. How do I how do I build upon that? And sometimes it's
- 52:19like, I don't have a growth goal in that area. It's a maintenance
- 52:23goal. And sometimes it's a huge growth goal in one area and the
- 52:27other. It's like, well, you know, one thing that's important
- 52:30to me is one on one time with the most important people in my
- 52:33family, yeah, who have I not getting enough time with? I'm
- 52:36always asking, Mom, do you want to start like, yoga or something
- 52:39together? So we have something we do? We do walk together quite
- 52:42frequently, not as much as I'd like, because she walks when I'm
- 52:45already like working for the day. It's easier if we can go
- 52:49early, but on the weekends, I will as she walk. Wants to walk.
- 52:51So, yeah, I think we've got to always think about, how do we
- 52:55get better? And when we stop trying to grow, we kind of find
- 52:58ourselves just stagnant and then also not as happy. I think
- 53:03growth fuels that internal happiness.
- 53:06Yeah, I've been I've seen a couple of things. Maybe other
- 53:10people have seen this where, like hospice nurses talk about
- 53:14what people say at the end of their life, what were their
- 53:16regrets? And I don't remember all of them, but the one that
- 53:21couple that speak to me are like they regret the things they
- 53:24didn't do, the chances they didn't take, and that I really,
- 53:29I don't want to end up in that position like our number one,
- 53:34taking care of our bodies. Our bodies are the thing that are
- 53:37going to eventually
- 53:38kill us. Let's keep our engine running. Yeah, keep our engine
- 53:43running as best as we can, make sure that we're doing all of
- 53:45those health things. And then number two, making sure that
- 53:49we're being intentional about the time. And sometimes we don't
- 53:52want to show up and do the things that we want to do when
- 53:55it's presented to us, but planning ahead is a great way to
- 53:59make sure that you make the decision, so you don't have to
- 54:02make the dishes in the moment, right? Yeah, and I think you
- 54:05brought up family dinners. I do want to, I do want to give a nod
- 54:08to that, because that's something that has been integral
- 54:11since, even since we were children, we had family dinners.
- 54:14Growing up, it was just expected. We were eating dinner
- 54:17together as a family. I think when I was like a junior and
- 54:19senior in high school, was probably a little bit more lax,
- 54:22because I was working. Because I was working, but family dinners
- 54:24were Yeah, unless you were had an obligation, like you were
- 54:27working or at a practice you were at dinner, yeah, dinner,
- 54:30yeah, and we were home. And we still do that. It's not every
- 54:34night, because I do have two teenagers, so like a lot of
- 54:37nights, it'll end up like last night Isabelle was babysitting,
- 54:40and we were at Ben's game, and so dinner after the game was
- 54:43just Dave and Ben and I. A lot of times it's me and the boys.
- 54:47Now it's just the three of us. And then there's every Wednesday
- 54:50night we do date night. So that's like, the kids know
- 54:53that's they don't have to be home for dinner because that's
- 54:56date night. Yeah, but we've flexed on that a little bit
- 54:58while we still have been doing it. But with change in
- 55:01schedules, it's been a little bit easier to not always have to
- 55:04do that. But family dinner is something that we are pretty
- 55:07pretty we've stick pretty hard to that, like we're gonna look
- 55:11at the calendar on Sunday and go, who has what commitments,
- 55:14because we have to come together as a family at least three or
- 55:16four times a week.
- 55:17That's amazing, and it's so good for the outcomes for your
- 55:20children. There's all these little like tidbits about how to
- 55:24give your kids the best life possible, and family dinner is
- 55:28one that always shows up on that kids do better when they have
- 55:31these consistent routines. That's something I have never
- 55:34fluctuated on with my children, is they are very routine. It's
- 55:38actually something I think people give me advice about
- 55:41being more relaxed with but it's been so good for my mental
- 55:44health to know my kids are always going to be napping from
- 55:47this time to this time, and we're going to get up at this
- 55:50time. We're going to go to bed at this time, like we've been
- 55:53over at mom and dad's. And I think one time we got home at
- 55:56like, nine o'clock and I was like, You guys, this is the
- 55:59latest you have ever stayed up very late.
- 56:01I bet Jenny was like, Are you serious? Yeah, right. I can see
- 56:04her eyes. It's so late. Am I gonna get in trouble?
- 56:07But that's not always how that every family isn't that way. But
- 56:10I think kids really crave routine and those meaningful
- 56:13interactions that they can rely on, even if from 16 to 18, Ben
- 56:18doesn't have family dinner every night, he's still going to tell
- 56:22his friends and his kids. We always did family dinner every
- 56:25night. That's still the impression,
- 56:26yeah, and we still will make the kids. I mean, yeah, even
- 56:30Isabelle at 18, she still lives with us, so we still expect that
- 56:34she's going to be there, not every night she has she can
- 56:37communicate what she has going on. We don't expect her to,
- 56:40like, skip something, to be at family dinner. But you know, we
- 56:42do expect there's communication on Sundays. We talk about, like,
- 56:45after church, we pull out the I pull out the calendar, and,
- 56:48like, all right, this is what we have going on this week. This is
- 56:51what's important to you. Like, what do you have on your
- 56:53calendar that you haven't showed me yet? Isabelle, that's a
- 56:56great. Happy job. Yeah, thanks. So then, then I do the grocery
- 56:58shopping. It's like, okay, let me Instacart, Walmart and
- 57:01Instacart. Yes, everything. We need to have the meals for the
- 57:04week, and so by Sunday afternoon, I don't have to think
- 57:07about schedules or meals for the rest of the week. That's great.
- 57:12I do the thinking on Sunday. And I think that is one major hack,
- 57:17yeah, that has helped me be successful in business, because
- 57:19I can go into the day and I'm not worried, what am I gonna
- 57:21make for dinner tonight? It's like, tonight? It's like, what?
- 57:24How's Ben gonna get to practice? It's no, everything's figured
- 57:26out. I can focus on what I'm doing right now. Family meeting
- 57:29on Sunday, yeah? Family meeting on Sunday. That's a good idea.
- 57:31Yeah, we do that. And then another thing we do, I think
- 57:33that is a really positive thing, is the highs and lows. Yeah, at
- 57:37dinner, the kids love that. And we have a lot of friends that
- 57:40come over and say they love off doing highs and lows, and mom
- 57:43and dad are usually with us a few nights a week for dinner.
- 57:46Typically, that's awesome. So many routines. I think it all
- 57:50comes back to routine for me in order to be successful. And I
- 57:53know we kind of came into this saying, how do we what do we do
- 57:57in our life to make sure that we can be a good parent and a good
- 58:00employee. We didn't talk a lot about work, but I'm sure that
- 58:03your listeners have received a lot of information, yeah, over
- 58:07the time. But all of this leads to better outcomes as an
- 58:10employee because I'm taken care of. I have a time of my
- 58:14employment where I'm like, back to back eight to eight to four
- 58:20every day doing onboarding, virtually, onboarding people.
- 58:24And for two years, knock on wood. This is, this is going to
- 58:27be the year I have not gotten sick once or called out once for
- 58:30these three months of just every day showing Yeah, and it's
- 58:34because I'm healthy, because I take care of myself, because
- 58:37even if I have a little tickle in my throat, like the vitamins
- 58:40in my body are fighting this for me, and I'm not exhausted, and
- 58:43so those things lead to me being a better employee. And there's
- 58:47there's statistics about this too, where people who are active
- 58:51have a fitness routine, are better employees. They're more
- 58:53consistent, they're promoted more they're paid more like all
- 58:56of these things compound into being a higher performing human.
- 59:01And for me, it's not about what can I how much money can I make
- 59:05as a high performing human? It's about what can I do that that
- 59:08honors this life I've been given so I can be the best person I
- 59:12can be and really make the most out of this life. For God, you
- 59:16know, for humanity,
- 59:18I love that. I love everything that you just said, the whole
- 59:22like, being in your the best version of you, physically. Why
- 59:28would you not give yourself every advantage? Yeah? Is like,
- 59:31I think a point of what we're saying, yeah, and you're right.
- 59:34Everything we talked about, it's like prep for the show of when
- 59:39you can show up for others in for work, right? Whatever your
- 59:42work is that you're doing, all this stuff is what fuels you and
- 59:45gets you ready. I do want to say one more thing about fewer
- 59:48decisions. I don't really think about what I'm going to wear
- 59:50very often, and I make that decision in advance, and that
- 59:53was something we learned growing up. We always had to have our
- 59:55outfit picked out the night before school. We were not
- 59:58allowed probably, because I'm sure. One of us, or both of us,
- 1:00:01had a little temper tantrum at some point about what to wear
- 1:00:04before school. And so only once, that definitely only happened.
- 1:00:07So it became a rule that we had to have as kids, we had to have
- 1:00:12it picked up before, and Isabelle does that still, yeah,
- 1:00:15I think I don't look at Ben's room, but I have seen him. I
- 1:00:19mean, he's very particular about what he wears. And so they both
- 1:00:22kind of, I think, prep, like, yeah, even Sunday, Isabel said,
- 1:00:26Can I wear the white aviator sweatsuit on Tuesday? Mom? And I
- 1:00:29was like, Sure, wow. Because we, you know, we share a lot of
- 1:00:32clothes, yeah. So picking out your clothes, and then also,
- 1:00:35like, having a uniform, yes. So when I go to the gym, I'm gonna
- 1:00:39wear the same kind of outfit different colors. Like, I don't
- 1:00:43think about it, but it is laid out the night before, so I'm
- 1:00:45literally not making that decision. Just waking up, what
- 1:00:49I'm going to wear during the day, if I'm working at home, is
- 1:00:51probably going to be pretty consistent in different colors
- 1:00:54every day. Dave's like, do you really need the same thing in
- 1:00:56four colors? Yes, I do. Yeah, I do. Actually, that's my uniform.
- 1:00:59Yeah, that's my uniform, actually. And then when I'm
- 1:01:01going to work, I have, you know, this shirt in three colors, and
- 1:01:04I have the button down I like in three colors. I have the same
- 1:01:07shoes in two different colors. So I think minimizing your
- 1:01:10decisions and, like, figuring out this probably really, I
- 1:01:13didn't get really comfortable until I was in my 40s. Of like,
- 1:01:17what am I most comfortable wearing? What do I like? And I
- 1:01:19think you're in the same place too. Of like, you're not in your
- 1:01:2240s yet, but in the same place, of like, I know what I feel good
- 1:01:25in. I feel best in. And I don't really need to, like, explore.
- 1:01:29Like, we'll shop Izzy, and I will go shop, and I'm like,
- 1:01:31well, that's cute, but, like, I don't need it. It's not gonna,
- 1:01:35like, fit in my
- 1:01:36I definitely feel like having a personal style is a good a good
- 1:01:40hack for not making decisions and it I wish that I had, like,
- 1:01:46done a personal stylist early. Now I feel like I'm I'm mature
- 1:01:51enough that I figured it out on my own. I can, like, label what
- 1:01:54my personal style is. If it's not within that, then I know
- 1:01:57that it's not really going to go with my wardrobe and also having
- 1:02:00a color palette, like I did one of those free, online color
- 1:02:04palette assessments, and now I only buy things that are in that
- 1:02:07color palette. I like them. I think that they're the they
- 1:02:11paint me in the most flattering, like flattering light. So that
- 1:02:13kind of limited my options as well. So that helps with, like,
- 1:02:18not being overwhelmed with shopping, which is something
- 1:02:20that I always experienced. And then the uniform thing
- 1:02:23definitely, like, if it's not within that style, then I'm not
- 1:02:27going to buy it. Yeah, yeah. And I like to, like, look at things.
- 1:02:31Like, I think our sister and our sisters in law, sisters, yeah,
- 1:02:36sisters, yeah. Both have, like, really nice taste. And like, I
- 1:02:39always look at stuff on Sloan. I'm like, she looks amazing. I
- 1:02:42would not be able to pull that off, like, but I'm gonna admire
- 1:02:45it on her. I'm not gonna go try that style because I love it on
- 1:02:48her, yeah, because it fits her. But it wouldn't be my it
- 1:02:51wouldn't look I wouldn't feel right. That's not me, yeah? But
- 1:02:54I think my point is it's okay to enjoy looking at a style or
- 1:02:57admire it on somebody else and not have to make it yours, yes,
- 1:03:00or experiment and try it well. And we both do newly Yeah,
- 1:03:06because it is still fun to experiment with new styles. And
- 1:03:09sometimes you find something you want to wear one time, but you
- 1:03:12don't need it in your closet forever. So that's been a good
- 1:03:15option to curb my shopping.
- 1:03:17I totally agree that's another half is newly, and it's $100 a
- 1:03:23month. We get six pieces Isabelle, and I split it so we
- 1:03:26get each get three, and it's totally fine for both of us.
- 1:03:29And they have a great thrift option. They have. You can buy
- 1:03:32thrifted pieces there if you find something that you like,
- 1:03:34and you can purchase what you have. I've gotten many items
- 1:03:37that were brand new, and then I purchased them.
- 1:03:40What was I gonna say about this? I can't remember. Well, while
- 1:03:44you're
- 1:03:44thinking about it, I wore last, last rental. We Isabelle and I
- 1:03:48both were like, This was awesome. Yeah, I had a birthday
- 1:03:50party for a friend, one of my closest friends, to go to, and
- 1:03:53it was, like, a pink theme, yeah, I don't want to own a pink
- 1:03:56sparkly dress, but I rented one, and it was perfect. It was like,
- 1:03:59the perfect dress for that occasion. And I forget what else
- 1:04:02I wore, but it was like or what else I rented, but it was
- 1:04:04occasion specific. Yeah, things I Oh, I know, Christmas
- 1:04:07pictures, yeah, the skirt I had on, I rented two different ones
- 1:04:11for Christmas. Oh, that was from newly Yes, the plaid that, I
- 1:04:14mean, it was too big. I had to clip it in the back, but I had a
- 1:04:16plaid one and a red one. I got two, and I didn't end up wearing
- 1:04:20the red one, but it would have worked, yeah? But I was really
- 1:04:22happy that I didn't buy an outfit for pictures and I didn't
- 1:04:25have to buy a dress for an event. So newly, it's one of the
- 1:04:29things. As we get to, like, week three of the month, Isabel and I
- 1:04:31fill the cart, fill like, all right, this is what do we have
- 1:04:34going on next month that we're going to want? Yeah, items for
- 1:04:36and it's turned out perfectly to, like, curb that shopping,
- 1:04:40right? You don't really have to shop, because you and it's and
- 1:04:43we do live in a community where that is consuming more than, I
- 1:04:47think, the average American community. So there is that
- 1:04:50pressure to, like, not repeat outfits. Like, I literally feel
- 1:04:52that pressure, which is so stupid, but especially for an
- 1:04:55event or, like, Christmas pictures, you don't want to wear
- 1:04:57the same thing you wore last year. Totally. Pictures. I mean,
- 1:05:01not that anyone remember, right? Yeah, right. I mean, they're on
- 1:05:05my Facebook page forever, so they are there if you want to
- 1:05:08audit it, but that's a great option to just one time and not
- 1:05:12have to own it, and then you can try something else next year or
- 1:05:15rent it again next year. I definitely think that's a good
- 1:05:18yeah. Newly has been a really good hack. So we talked about a
- 1:05:20ton of things today. I know we're out of time, but we could
- 1:05:24sit here and talk about life hacks and everything forever.
- 1:05:27But, you know, I think about we, although we came from the same
- 1:05:32home, same parents, yes, all five of us kids have the same
- 1:05:36parents, and they're still married. They live next door to
- 1:05:38me. We have a lot of the same life hacks, and we grew up
- 1:05:43together, but we've also had our separate times living in
- 1:05:46different areas. We have we found our way on these life
- 1:05:48hacks independently. That's my point. Is that, like, we didn't,
- 1:05:53it wasn't like we always shared these, like, just kind of, it's
- 1:05:55like, oh, you're doing that too. Yeah. Oh, okay, that's cool. We
- 1:05:59do share things. And you brought up the toothbrush, putting it by
- 1:06:01your toothbrush when I used to sell used to sell rode in and
- 1:06:03fields and lash boost, I would always be like, put it by your
- 1:06:06toothbrush. So How funny is that, that we would both get had
- 1:06:09given that advice to someone. So I think hopefully today
- 1:06:13listeners heard something that they can take into their life
- 1:06:17and just either implement something new or adjust
- 1:06:20something that they want to change, or try something that
- 1:06:23makes them feel better about themselves. And worst case, you
- 1:06:26just heard from us that like it's okay to put yourself first
- 1:06:29right. And that is not selfish. It's selfless. It's actually
- 1:06:32selfish to put other people first and then show up poorly
- 1:06:35for them. So you're better off putting yourself first. And I
- 1:06:38think we've figured out a way to kind of balance all of that my
- 1:06:40kids are going to have to take care of me when I'm aging. I
- 1:06:43really want to delay that as long as possible. I want to, you
- 1:06:46know, so I think it feels selfish because of their the
- 1:06:51stigma, but in the end, you're really serving everyone else by
- 1:06:54remaining independent and strong and healthy for as long as you
- 1:06:57can. Yeah, thank you for coming back. You know, you have a lot
- 1:07:02going on. You've got a three year old with a broken arm at
- 1:07:04home, second broken arm in two months.
- 1:07:07Yeah, yeah. Traumatic. Traumatic. It was.
- 1:07:11I did sign up for a CPR and first aid course, because when
- 1:07:14it happened and his arm was visibly broken, I couldn't
- 1:07:21function. I was like, so shocked. And everyone is like,
- 1:07:24even if you're trained, you're you still might feel that way.
- 1:07:26But I am such a like, I am a person who follows the book, and
- 1:07:31I need to read the book. I need someone to teach me the book of
- 1:07:34what to do in an emergency, how to assess it, what to do first,
- 1:07:38like, you know, if there's a broken bone, stabilize it and
- 1:07:41move it. I just none of that stuff came to me. I should
- 1:07:43probably do that with you. I'll send you the details. Yeah, in
- 1:07:46my neighborhood, because I don't, I
- 1:07:49don't have little kids, but that doesn't mean I won't be around
- 1:07:51them. I mean, we have a young nephew, right, who will be one
- 1:07:55this month, and, you know, there's, you just never know.
- 1:07:59And then you have your two kids. I mean, I don't know, live next
- 1:08:01to mom and
- 1:08:01dad, who are getting old, that's for sure. So maybe you girl,
- 1:08:06it's gonna be us.
- 1:08:07Girl, we're in this together. I actually thought you
- 1:08:11handled it well. It was a pretty traumatic moment, and I thought
- 1:08:14you handled it. Andrew, excellent. I think you guys
- 1:08:17handled it. You both handled it well. I texted him and told him
- 1:08:20that I think you guys both did. Ben was standing over him, and
- 1:08:22Ben just, Ben just goes, Dad, like, Ben was like, something's
- 1:08:27wrong with Alex. He could just, I think he stayed so calm. Alex
- 1:08:32handled it at the best of anybody, he really did. He was
- 1:08:34amazing. He was just like, Well, I told you at the at the
- 1:08:40hospital where, like, Alex, you have to stop jumping and playing
- 1:08:44rough, you're gonna keep getting hurt. Have to stop jumping off
- 1:08:47of furniture. And he was like, I'm not gonna stop.
- 1:08:53That's so Alex though broken arm. Like, don't move. Your arm
- 1:08:56is broken. I'm not gonna stop. He was like, that's fine. It's
- 1:08:59worth it. I think that that's a boy thing too, but now he's sad
- 1:09:02he I mean, he needs to learn. He's bummed
- 1:09:05about it. But, yeah, that's parenting, and you figured out
- 1:09:08how to work and do everything while still managing a baby with
- 1:09:11a broken arm, not a baby, but your baby. He is my baby. He's
- 1:09:15only three. I mean, yeah, I think he's still a baby. He's
- 1:09:18not a baby. I can still pick him up. Yeah, I can still pick up
- 1:09:21Ben, really, barely. I'm strong enough. I mean, he's 510 can,
- 1:09:27like, pick him up and put him down. He's 510 I don't know how
- 1:09:30much he weighs. He definitely weighs more than me, but
- 1:09:33I should say I can carry him. Yeah, he's still in a crib.
- 1:09:36I did tell, yeah, I did tell Ben that for Christmas, I want him
- 1:09:40to just let me snuggle with him for two minutes.
- 1:09:43Oh my gosh. I can't believe you just said that on a recording.
- 1:09:46Mom, I'm not giving you that gift, and I'm like, it doesn't
- 1:09:50cost you anything. That's what I want for Christmas.
- 1:09:53Oh my gosh. I was holding Alex last night thinking, How many
- 1:09:56more times can I do
- 1:09:58I used to do that all the time. Just think. When is it? I hope I
- 1:10:00don't want it to stop. But every phase is beautiful. Every phase
- 1:10:04they're in is my favorite. It always is. I was like, I'm gonna
- 1:10:06get a puppy.
- 1:10:09I need a very affectionate puppy. Well, we have the cats
- 1:10:13that they definitely are. It helps, right? It does. Nola sits
- 1:10:16with me all the time. Yeah? It's nice to have just the physical,
- 1:10:20the warmth of another
- 1:10:21being, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you for coming back. I know you
- 1:10:26may. I know you made this a priority today, and I appreciate
- 1:10:28you coming back. I mean, we talk every day, and I love our
- 1:10:32conversations, and I love that my audience gets to hear you
- 1:10:35have so much value to add. I love that you were able to share
- 1:10:38that with them today. So thank you for being here. I love you.
- 1:10:41Thank you for listening. Thanks for tuning in to Lindsay
- 1:10:44Stafford show. This was Ashley plored, my sister, my only
- 1:10:48sister, with me today, and I hope you've picked up some life
- 1:10:51hacks. She has a lot to share. We do a lot of back and forth
- 1:10:53sharing things, and she's got a lot of things to share. She's
- 1:10:55extremely intelligent and knows how to function and make
- 1:10:58everything work. So I hope you took some things today. If you
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