Latest / We Talk Back / Ep. 1 "Cheaters Never Win, Winners Never Cheat"
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- 0:03Speaker 1: We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion. Who
- 0:07Speaker 1: talks back? What game? Hey? This is Tam Bown and
- 0:14Speaker 1: this is a J and we talk back on the
- 0:18Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network. It's our very first episode. And
- 0:25Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Like how you feel a J girl?
- 0:30Speaker 1: I feel great on this custom, Ea goes. So I'm
- 0:35Speaker 1: a J and I'm originally from Chucktown, Charleston, South Carolina.
- 0:42Speaker 1: Box your knife, that's invitation boy? You know boy? Hey
- 0:48Speaker 1: box you a night boy. I am a serial entrepreneur.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I dibbling dab and a little bit of this and
- 0:57Speaker 1: a little bit of that. Scammer it up, whatever, bitch.
- 1:01Speaker 1: I am into white collar crimes. I do like mortgage. Listen,
- 1:05Speaker 1: she's just playing law enforcement. If you're listening, just keep talking.
- 1:11Speaker 1: But actually I do own and operate a commercial furniture
- 1:14Speaker 1: installation company. And I do have a food truck coming
- 1:17Speaker 1: in spring to Charlotte, North Carolina, trapped Veggie, so look
- 1:21Speaker 1: out for that. And I'm a struggle meal connoisseur. And
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be here as I am excited
- 1:29Speaker 1: to be doing this podcast. One of my very very
- 1:32Speaker 1: good friends. I wouldn't want to be doing this ship
- 1:36Speaker 1: with anybody else. So I just want to tell you
- 1:38Speaker 1: a little bit about myself. Girl. Buy, I do not
- 1:43Speaker 1: like oysters, I mean on humans. Oh I'm like what
- 1:51Speaker 1: you're trying to say about my vagina, bitch. I don't
- 1:54Speaker 1: like nothing slimy. Okay, that's how I know I can
- 1:56Speaker 1: never be a lesbian. But why you shocking the moisters
- 2:00Speaker 1: at your house? I can't believe that. But I stopped
- 2:03Speaker 1: eating when I saw a warm and one those same
- 2:07Speaker 1: ones we were get word. Okay, everybody, it's me tam Bam,
- 2:18Speaker 1: and I'm that bitch that you don't want to miss
- 2:21Speaker 1: every Thursday. Okay. I'm a hair stylust by day and
- 2:24Speaker 1: I'm a fucking superhero at night. I wear a smock
- 2:27Speaker 1: in a cape. Bitch. I'm originally from the Metro, which
- 2:31Speaker 1: is Columbia, South Carolina. Stand up South Carolina. I love
- 2:35Speaker 1: y'all so much. I live in Charlotte, North Carolina now
- 2:38Speaker 1: where I have my hair salon. It's Tamla Bow and
- 2:41Speaker 1: Vanity Studio. So check it out, y'all. You gotta pay
- 2:44Speaker 1: for the hair, but the entertainment is free. And honestly,
- 2:46Speaker 1: I'm just so grateful because not everybody has the opportunity
- 2:51Speaker 1: or the confidence to just be their authentic, true self
- 2:55Speaker 1: because the world around you will stifle you and make
- 2:58Speaker 1: you afraid to be yourself. But let me tell you
- 3:00Speaker 1: who ain't Tam bam and a j and So we're
- 3:04Speaker 1: gonna say this ship. You're probably thinking they can't say so.
- 3:07Speaker 1: The main complaint black men have with black women is
- 3:10Speaker 1: that we just don't shut the funk up. So while
- 3:13Speaker 1: we're doing why are you doing your dirt? We're just
- 3:15Speaker 1: talking all ship, while some ethnicities probably be a little
- 3:19Speaker 1: bit more like not submissive, but what's the word I'm
- 3:22Speaker 1: looking for, white bit? What like, uh, what's the word passive? Okay,
- 3:31Speaker 1: so we don't shut up, Thus we talked back. Overall,
- 3:34Speaker 1: the premise for this show is to create a safe
- 3:37Speaker 1: space where black women and women of color can come
- 3:41Speaker 1: together and talk shit and be empowered and feel loved
- 3:46Speaker 1: and have joy. That's all this is. So we have a
- 3:49Speaker 1: a lot of great uh segments for the show. Um
- 3:53Speaker 1: one of them we want to introduce right now is
- 3:55Speaker 1: our random sex facts. So apparently humans are just a
- 4:00Speaker 1: sophisticated animal, and the only thing that separates us from animals,
- 4:05Speaker 1: essentially our laws and religion. So I'm a little slew footed.
- 4:08Speaker 1: So apparently I'm related to penguins because the Random Sex
- 4:14Speaker 1: Fact today it says that female penguins engage in a
- 4:18Speaker 1: form of prostitution. Not to say I'm a prostitute, but
- 4:23Speaker 1: you got to have my like a resources cirin so says.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Researchers have repeatedly observed female penguins exchanging sexual favors with
- 4:33Speaker 1: male pigeons I'm sorry, penguins that aren't their mates, and
- 4:37Speaker 1: exchange for pebbles they will use to build nests for
- 4:40Speaker 1: their babies. So essentially the pebbles are equivalent or would
- 4:45Speaker 1: be the same as money. Penguins need stones to build
- 4:48Speaker 1: their nests, which is where females lay eggs, and if
- 4:51Speaker 1: a penguin couple finds themselves lacking in stones, the female
- 4:54Speaker 1: takes it upon herself to provide for her children, which
- 4:57Speaker 1: we would do because they said, mama's come with a
- 5:00Speaker 1: little for bread. Okay, so when her mate isn't paying attention,
- 5:03Speaker 1: she'll sneak off and have sex or males that have
- 5:06Speaker 1: a surplus of stones. That's right. Penguins will trade sex
- 5:10Speaker 1: for stones they need to build a nest, like I
- 5:13Speaker 1: got a pocket full of styles. Yes, yeah, so ship
- 5:19Speaker 1: basically with that. You gotta take care of your kids,
- 5:22Speaker 1: you know. You know when men pay ch'll support, they
- 5:24Speaker 1: always concerned about what money the woman is using to
- 5:28Speaker 1: pay for what. You can't differentiate what money is what money?
- 5:30Speaker 1: And if I need to get money from Joe smoke
- 5:32Speaker 1: and I need that yo'all support check to support these
- 5:35Speaker 1: kids whose fucking businesses that I don't understand. I agree,
- 5:38Speaker 1: and I'm here for the penguins. Do what you need
- 5:40Speaker 1: to do. Since hold on, oh that's the ductor, I
- 5:45Speaker 1: don't know what what sounds a penguin, mate, I don't know.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Obviously they'd be moaning all day because they're going with
- 5:51Speaker 1: the penguins who got the most sounds? And hold on,
- 5:54Speaker 1: before we get into anything else, let's pay some bills
- 5:56Speaker 1: real quick. So today we gotta real good episode lined up. Yes,
- 6:02Speaker 1: it's so much fun. You're going to hear from some
- 6:06Speaker 1: gentlemen today that are sharing with us why they cheat
- 6:11Speaker 1: or have cheated. So maybe the one that's cheating on
- 6:14Speaker 1: you is one of these. You know, because my philosophy
- 6:18Speaker 1: is women need a reason. Men literally only needed time
- 6:22Speaker 1: and a place and the opportunity. Yes, so here's the kicker.
- 6:26Speaker 1: We put that witness protection ship over their voice and
- 6:29Speaker 1: it got them to be a little bit more honest
- 6:31Speaker 1: than someone that you could pinpoint who the funk they are.
- 6:34Speaker 1: So our first guest is your certified hood nigga quintessential
- 6:40Speaker 1: hood nigga for sure listening. Thank you so much for
- 6:48Speaker 1: joining us today. How are you app good? Just getting
- 6:52Speaker 1: up that breath smell like, No, I don't brush my
- 6:59Speaker 1: teeth for whatever that make sure. I gotta make sure
- 7:01Speaker 1: I keep my diamonds. Wi wait, you have diamonds in
- 7:05Speaker 1: your mouth? Yeah, I gotta father's diamonds, tennant tin you know. Okay,
- 7:10Speaker 1: well that's like top and bottom diamonds. Yeah, you know.
- 7:14Speaker 1: You could see you on your on your local. You know,
- 7:16Speaker 1: I ain't gonna put all that out. I ain'tna say
- 7:18Speaker 1: you know, I'm not there with it, Okay, Okay, I
- 7:21Speaker 1: see you, Mr marcel Is Brown, so ye okay, So
- 7:33Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about yourself for Charlotte, North Carolina,
- 7:38Speaker 1: um born and raised, you know, the East Side. Currently
- 7:42Speaker 1: at this time, I do a little bit of everything.
- 7:46Speaker 1: When they come out to the freelancing entrepreneurs beat this
- 7:49Speaker 1: man manager of the music industry. Got a couple of
- 7:53Speaker 1: artists out there who I work with. I ain't gonna
- 7:54Speaker 1: put the names out there because they're gonna figure it
- 7:56Speaker 1: out too easy. But yeah, I'm hot to man. I
- 8:00Speaker 1: could definitely sham somebody. Okay, after it's called, maybe we
- 8:06Speaker 1: could talk about some other things. Ship ship, Mr Brown.
- 8:12Speaker 1: All right, So the conversation at hand is, you know
- 8:16Speaker 1: why you keep stepping out in a relationship, like why
- 8:19Speaker 1: you can't keep your dick to yourself? So are you
- 8:22Speaker 1: currently in a relationship? Um? I like, I like, I
- 8:26Speaker 1: like to think, so you like to think? So? Yeah,
- 8:28Speaker 1: I mean I think, I think, I think she thinks that.
- 8:31Speaker 1: You know, we could say that you wait. Wait, wait,
- 8:34Speaker 1: so if the woman thinks that y'all in relationship, y'all
- 8:36Speaker 1: in the relationship, it's like this, man, I gotta I
- 8:39Speaker 1: gotta please my women, you know. So she feels like
- 8:41Speaker 1: that's what's gonna take to be happy happy, even if
- 8:45Speaker 1: you're not really in a relationship. You don't know. I
- 8:48Speaker 1: take I take care, I take care of my women.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So you know I'm in a relationship. But in the situationship. Wait,
- 8:56Speaker 1: so you have one main relationship and then you have
- 8:58Speaker 1: little outside with, so I think I think that's the
- 9:02Speaker 1: way it is right now to do the outside women
- 9:04Speaker 1: know about your main Oh yeah, for sure they got
- 9:08Speaker 1: to know. But how much do they know? Do you
- 9:10Speaker 1: pillow talk with these women? No, they just need to
- 9:12Speaker 1: know not to call me unless I can do you
- 9:14Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And the biggest thing, yeah, yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: because I take it them as well. Pretty sure they
- 9:19Speaker 1: got their own things going on on trip on the
- 9:22Speaker 1: too much I keep it playing. Wait a bit, so
- 9:29Speaker 1: hold on, let me ask you this, Mr. Brown, How
- 9:31Speaker 1: old are you? Kind of okay? Women? How old that? Yes?
- 9:36Speaker 1: How did these women are? They range? You know my
- 9:39Speaker 1: old lady? You know that's where I like to call
- 9:41Speaker 1: my main girl old lady. Reason why I called my
- 9:44Speaker 1: old ladies. I spent the most time she stayed down
- 9:47Speaker 1: with what's my old lady? But she liked one. Got
- 9:51Speaker 1: me up year old keep me she keep you up
- 9:55Speaker 1: to date on the fashion and ship. Everybody played the
- 9:57Speaker 1: all row. Okay, that's interesting. And you say they know
- 10:02Speaker 1: about each other like they saw each other. They would
- 10:04Speaker 1: be like my girl, my old lady don't need to
- 10:09Speaker 1: the problem none of that ship. Basically, what I got
- 10:12Speaker 1: going on with her. It is a school you know,
- 10:15Speaker 1: eventually one day that's gonna be mother and my kids.
- 10:18Speaker 1: And she she knows what's going on, but we don't
- 10:22Speaker 1: talk about it, you know what I'm saying, Like it
- 10:23Speaker 1: ain't nothing to be discussed. Okay, she gives you zero
- 10:27Speaker 1: fuss about your outside activities. She do, but it's like
- 10:31Speaker 1: she she should have talked. But at the same time,
- 10:34Speaker 1: I know how to handle her, you know what I'm saying,
- 10:36Speaker 1: or know how to get her back together. Sometimes she
- 10:38Speaker 1: gets she get a little straight. You got to bring
- 10:40Speaker 1: it back to the stable man. How do you do that?
- 10:44Speaker 1: Dick and some money? I mean, she had to dicker
- 10:48Speaker 1: with got but you know they came up since then,
- 10:51Speaker 1: so she seen what kind of lifestyles you're living right now.
- 10:54Speaker 1: And ship, I ain't saying another nigga can't give it
- 10:56Speaker 1: to her, but they can't give it to the round.
- 10:59Speaker 1: So you have unprotected sex with twenty four year old
- 11:04Speaker 1: as she she sucks, she's something like digging ship with
- 11:08Speaker 1: you know, I ain't I don't think. I think the
- 11:12Speaker 1: nigga game if you were economically picks up. I don't know,
- 11:18Speaker 1: but I mean, just think about it, like you have
- 11:25Speaker 1: a you have a blue bubble like she sunk around
- 11:28Speaker 1: and choke herself trying on my companion. That's on my conscience.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Al Right, Okay, I respect that. Do you ever feel
- 11:40Speaker 1: any guilt about, you know, going outside of the relationship
- 11:43Speaker 1: with your main girl? No, not, no guilt. So I
- 11:47Speaker 1: can't because I mean, if if I feel guilt, and
- 11:50Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I shouldn't be doing it,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I don't feel like that. I mean I feel like
- 11:54Speaker 1: my girl she there for what she there for, and
- 11:56Speaker 1: we just to maintain hold hot hope. But a lot
- 12:01Speaker 1: of times you don't get what you get in your
- 12:03Speaker 1: old lady that you're gonna get out here in the streets,
- 12:05Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And she's a lot of things,
- 12:08Speaker 1: you know, I mean, every man got his own you
- 12:10Speaker 1: know what he's talking what he don't like he personally
- 12:13Speaker 1: My old lady that she she went to school, you
- 12:15Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. She had traveling nurse and she
- 12:18Speaker 1: getting she getting on her day. She's trying to got
- 12:20Speaker 1: you and go back to school, get her masters, and
- 12:22Speaker 1: better herself. But at the same time, she's born conservative,
- 12:27Speaker 1: so you get you have the fun girl, it's twenty
- 12:29Speaker 1: four year old girl. You know, I ain't even gonna say,
- 12:33Speaker 1: my girl, I fun, we have fun, we laughed, you
- 12:35Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We're gonna little pick nicks and
- 12:37Speaker 1: days and ship that ship cool. But you know, my
- 12:40Speaker 1: twenty four year old she might she might pop up
- 12:42Speaker 1: on me and tell me about the new James is
- 12:43Speaker 1: coming out and my dad. I don't know ship about
- 12:46Speaker 1: none of that ship. She really trying to get me
- 12:48Speaker 1: stop doing time. Too old to be worried about ship
- 12:50Speaker 1: like that. And I feel like I'm only as olders
- 12:52Speaker 1: I feel, and I feel like that's the type of
- 12:53Speaker 1: ship that I liked. But at the same time, I
- 12:57Speaker 1: wouldn't want to let her go because that little stuff.
- 13:00Speaker 1: But she don't just have all the qualities. I won't.
- 13:02Speaker 1: No one, do you ever like talk with the sad
- 13:05Speaker 1: bitch about your relationship only disrespectful. I don't do that
- 13:10Speaker 1: as disrespects. Don't even know she don't know her name right,
- 13:17Speaker 1: her Instagram, my grandst She don't do none of that,
- 13:21Speaker 1: No Instagram, social media's she focused on guard She's not like,
- 13:27Speaker 1: she don't do no social media. But what about Facebook?
- 13:31Speaker 1: But on people she follows her opens you know what
- 13:33Speaker 1: I'm saying. She ain't. What's the reward for being a
- 13:37Speaker 1: reclusive like that? She don't want for nothing, she don't
- 13:41Speaker 1: need for Do you think she would trade the things
- 13:43Speaker 1: and stuff like that for her man to be a
- 13:45Speaker 1: hundred percent faithful They committed to her alone should be
- 13:49Speaker 1: stupid as him. It's like it's like this, It's like this,
- 13:52Speaker 1: you would funny, got time you followed, nigga, I've got
- 13:55Speaker 1: some way, yeah, because I don't got time to funk
- 13:59Speaker 1: with some to else. You got time in money, my girds.
- 14:02Speaker 1: She had traveled, nurse, she had the town right now,
- 14:04Speaker 1: I at my shot right, just want to go do
- 14:10Speaker 1: her little part of time at the mall watching ship.
- 14:19Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, um, if you were
- 14:21Speaker 1: to get the twenty four year old pregnant by accident,
- 14:24Speaker 1: what would that look like for you? Yeah? I said, y'all,
- 14:28Speaker 1: I disguised my ways right, yes, yes, you totally protected.
- 14:32Speaker 1: She got she gotta go? Wait what where she gotta go?
- 14:40Speaker 1: She gotta go like die go? Or are you just
- 14:43Speaker 1: getting rid of her? Right? I don't know to be
- 14:49Speaker 1: a fast Wait a minute, I respectfully respect that that's
- 14:54Speaker 1: your name, right, yes, yes, yeah, something they gotta be said,
- 14:58Speaker 1: she gotta go. Not even give her an opportunity to say, hey,
- 15:02Speaker 1: I'll get rid of rid of it, and she already
- 15:04Speaker 1: know that. But if she even come talking about anything else,
- 15:08Speaker 1: because this ship, I don't come before what I got
- 15:10Speaker 1: going on the home, you know, this ship fund him.
- 15:12Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of and make sure you know
- 15:13Speaker 1: everything taken care of. She good therapy, right. I really
- 15:20Speaker 1: think I could be that. Really I could be a thing.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Oh God, do you see yourself? Um? Every committee? Yeah?
- 15:27Speaker 1: Like how long? How long will this go on? Is
- 15:29Speaker 1: this just like a lifetime thing for you? Did you like,
- 15:32Speaker 1: could you be in like a polyamorous relationship where it's
- 15:35Speaker 1: kind of like fully open with both parties that way,
- 15:38Speaker 1: there's no deceit involved stuff on me? Are you dealing
- 15:43Speaker 1: with a complex type? Now? At myself? Some things that
- 15:46Speaker 1: my mindkey him, do you keep processed? I don't need
- 15:48Speaker 1: to be confused, that need to focus. You almost sound
- 15:51Speaker 1: like you speak like a pimp. Almost. You don't have
- 15:56Speaker 1: to focus on nothing, baby, follow me and bring me
- 15:59Speaker 1: the money back. It's not it's not more, I would
- 16:03Speaker 1: say more a god is counsel. I want to get
- 16:08Speaker 1: to a common goal, so we both to be successful. Guy,
- 16:15Speaker 1: all right, thank you so much, Mr Brown, you have
- 16:17Speaker 1: a good day. Did he just boat kiss? That was
- 16:23Speaker 1: a very interesting yeah right now, kind of crazy stuff. Look,
- 16:30Speaker 1: these are random people social media. It's not happening. I'm
- 16:37Speaker 1: not getting involved in no ship like that. Like he
- 16:40Speaker 1: wanted low polyamorous relationship. That's what he needs. He just needs.
- 16:45Speaker 1: Like I just feel like, if you're someone who wants
- 16:48Speaker 1: a bunch of women, why don't you just be honest
- 16:50Speaker 1: and y'all find women that are down with it? Like,
- 16:52Speaker 1: why don't we gotta these things? Because, like I believe
- 16:55Speaker 1: the deceit is a part of the whole ship, you
- 16:57Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yes, I think it makes it
- 17:00Speaker 1: fun for them. Sneaky Link is like on all time
- 17:03Speaker 1: high right now. Sneaky Link. Oh yeah, it's like if
- 17:08Speaker 1: Sneaky Link was a stock right now. But sneaky Link,
- 17:13Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sneaking to do ship all right.
- 17:17Speaker 1: One I decided that I'm going to practice safe sex,
- 17:20Speaker 1: right and I'm not talking about a condom, because I
- 17:23Speaker 1: mean I am going to do that too. But safe
- 17:25Speaker 1: is an acronym and it stands for the ass for
- 17:30Speaker 1: it's not secret. No, the seed is involved, nobody's sneaking around.
- 17:33Speaker 1: The A is for um, a's for abusive, it's not
- 17:37Speaker 1: abusive sex uh f is it doesn't alter feelings, So
- 17:41Speaker 1: like you're fucking to make me feel better over something
- 17:44Speaker 1: I'm sad about or something like that. And then the
- 17:47Speaker 1: E it's for it's not empty. So how do you
- 17:51Speaker 1: have just sex and then not be empty? I don't
- 17:54Speaker 1: just have sex. That's the thing. I'm not going to
- 17:57Speaker 1: protect cartake insects that doesn't have a meaningful Sex needs
- 18:02Speaker 1: to be a reinforcement of feelings that exists with someone.
- 18:05Speaker 1: That's it. So sorry, guys, No frivulous fucking this year.
- 18:10Speaker 1: No vacation pussy, none of that. No birthday pussy, No,
- 18:16Speaker 1: no vacation baby pussy. You know. So, I'm just gonna
- 18:21Speaker 1: get a very high pedigree dog and that brings to
- 18:26Speaker 1: our next person. So you'll understand what that means very soon.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Our next person is our corporate man. Man, I'm struggling.
- 18:41Speaker 1: That's a shame that I'm struggling. You want to say
- 18:44Speaker 1: corporate niggas so bad? I just I mean, alright, corporate man, yeah,
- 18:49Speaker 1: I did. But before we get to our next guest.
- 18:53Speaker 1: We have a steel words from our sponsors. This is
- 18:57Speaker 1: gonna be your your more high value grown man, all right,
- 19:04Speaker 1: and we're gonna hear how he feels about high values,
- 19:08Speaker 1: more high value, high value, high value to me. Makes
- 19:11Speaker 1: it to me based on the conversation, he's more responsible
- 19:16Speaker 1: than a last If I was like this nigga would
- 19:21Speaker 1: have me right right, But so alright, I want y'all
- 19:26Speaker 1: then listen to our corporate man and see and see
- 19:32Speaker 1: what you think in comparison to our street nigga. I
- 19:35Speaker 1: can say street nigga, but I can't say corporate nigga
- 19:38Speaker 1: like high value. All right, So y'all listening. Hi, this
- 19:44Speaker 1: is a J and TAM band from we talked back.
- 19:46Speaker 1: How are you doing? Good? Good? Thank you for participating
- 19:51Speaker 1: today in our conversation about keeping your dick to yourself.
- 19:55Speaker 1: I want to look at so you don't keep all right,
- 19:58Speaker 1: we'll get into that. Just tell us just a little
- 20:01Speaker 1: bit about yourself, Nathan, Who are you like? Who are you?
- 20:04Speaker 1: What do you do? I'm a four year old guy,
- 20:08Speaker 1: um black, well to do a guy in the middle
- 20:11Speaker 1: of La Georgia. Okay, And when you say well to do,
- 20:14Speaker 1: like what do you What kind of work do you do?
- 20:16Speaker 1: Are you corporate or you you know, like, um, well
- 20:20Speaker 1: I've been I've been an entrepreneur, meaning I sell for
- 20:23Speaker 1: companies for most of my career, which allows me to
- 20:26Speaker 1: create a lot of other revenue strings, which that's kind
- 20:29Speaker 1: of what I do. So I'm but but I do
- 20:32Speaker 1: pretty well for myself. Okay, cool, cool. So let me
- 20:35Speaker 1: ask you this. Are you currently cheating on someone right now?
- 20:38Speaker 1: Are you currently in a relationship? No? No, So I
- 20:41Speaker 1: am single now and when I am single, I am
- 20:44Speaker 1: a whole type of hope and I'm okay with that.
- 20:47Speaker 1: But when I'm in a relationship, in general, I don't cheat.
- 20:51Speaker 1: I towards the end of my marriage, she became, uh,
- 20:55Speaker 1: the edges became a little boggy. But but in general,
- 20:58Speaker 1: when I'm in a relationship, don't cheat because I just don't.
- 21:01Speaker 1: My ego won't allow me to get caught cheating. And
- 21:04Speaker 1: so it's rare that I'm going to to allow myself
- 21:07Speaker 1: to get caught up in something that I would have
- 21:09Speaker 1: to admit to or something like that. That's a different way, right, Yeah,
- 21:13Speaker 1: I like that. I meantime, people will cheat because of right,
- 21:16Speaker 1: you inazing. You don't cheat because of your ego because
- 21:19Speaker 1: you don't like to be wrong exactly exactly me. Imagine
- 21:23Speaker 1: that what you gotta what you gonna do? Someone dead
- 21:25Speaker 1: as catches you doing something, What are you gonna do?
- 21:27Speaker 1: Just sit around? You look like an idiot. Now you're
- 21:31Speaker 1: gonna want to flip it on them and make them? Yeah,
- 21:35Speaker 1: use it right? Yeah, I think that's I think that's
- 21:39Speaker 1: a large waste of everybody. I'm not saying that I
- 21:41Speaker 1: haven't done it before, and I'm not saying that when
- 21:43Speaker 1: I did it, I felt bad about it, um because
- 21:46Speaker 1: I felt I was justified in someone by behavior. But um,
- 21:50Speaker 1: but in general, I'm not a cheating in general. Okay,
- 21:54Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You said something earlier,
- 21:56Speaker 1: you say you're a whole code versus a half a home.
- 21:59Speaker 1: What does that the whole whole look like? When I'm single,
- 22:03Speaker 1: I don't have any allegiance to anybody that I don't
- 22:05Speaker 1: have relationship with, and I don't interpt the relationship without
- 22:08Speaker 1: some without without a strict conversation, and that that understanding.
- 22:13Speaker 1: So I'm okay with you know what, um, and I
- 22:16Speaker 1: do whatever I want to, And you're using condoms a
- 22:18Speaker 1: lot when you're single, right or no? Do you have
- 22:21Speaker 1: anybody that you don't use economic to the accidental? I'll
- 22:24Speaker 1: tell you that. Um. But I certainly we've had drug
- 22:27Speaker 1: nights where d you know what the fund did I do?
- 22:30Speaker 1: But I but you know, I wouldn't make sure that
- 22:32Speaker 1: from a pregnancy standpoint, I've I've handled my side of
- 22:37Speaker 1: that equation. So I don't know, no, no, no, pull
- 22:40Speaker 1: up that that's so many half plus are born on
- 22:42Speaker 1: pullout right, So I wouldn't got to desect me because
- 22:47Speaker 1: I don't want any more kids more than more than three,
- 22:53Speaker 1: let's six. Yeah, yes, I'm so. I'm good on kids
- 23:02Speaker 1: and I don't wish to be a fifty year old
- 23:05Speaker 1: running behind a ten year old somewhere, and so I
- 23:08Speaker 1: I'm good and so because of that, I kind of
- 23:11Speaker 1: take my my choices of of my you know how
- 23:15Speaker 1: he gets my last name very seriously and I'm and
- 23:17Speaker 1: I'm good on that right now. So do you want
- 23:19Speaker 1: I heard you say you were married once before? Do
- 23:22Speaker 1: you want to be married again? Yeah? I would. I
- 23:24Speaker 1: would marry a kid. I think that marriage is a
- 23:27Speaker 1: good thing. Um. Now understand that getting married at Gordy
- 23:32Speaker 1: um is a different calculation than getting married when I
- 23:36Speaker 1: did earlier in my in my early twenties, because we
- 23:39Speaker 1: were married before, you're married for a life. We're building
- 23:42Speaker 1: a kid to kids, were building children together, a family
- 23:44Speaker 1: and tribe together, and now largely we're gonna you know, listen,
- 23:49Speaker 1: just let's go on vacation and buck all the time.
- 23:51Speaker 1: And it's just a different calculus than that I did
- 23:54Speaker 1: what I was twenty in my early twenties. Right, So
- 23:58Speaker 1: basically you're saying you want someone to fucking travel with
- 24:02Speaker 1: as a wife, and that's about you know. But so yeah,
- 24:05Speaker 1: I'll have fun with a lot of these, um, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 1: young women, but in general, the women that I date
- 24:11Speaker 1: are going to be more age appropriate. They're going to
- 24:13Speaker 1: be um, you know, mature enough to handle my life,
- 24:16Speaker 1: meaning that you know, I have the complex life, a
- 24:18Speaker 1: lot of different people that make me money, and so
- 24:21Speaker 1: she needs to be able to be with me while
- 24:23Speaker 1: we're doing that. Um and you know, and that's kind
- 24:25Speaker 1: of you know, that's that's what that's what that's what
- 24:27Speaker 1: I have demand now. But you know that's that's not
- 24:29Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not not sugar daddy, So I'm not
- 24:33Speaker 1: We like sugar Daddy's over here. I'm sure you think
- 24:37Speaker 1: you do, but but that's that's just not what we're
- 24:42Speaker 1: doing over here. You know, are you exclusive to black women? Um?
- 24:46Speaker 1: During the daylight? You know? No, absolutely, Um, I mean absolutely,
- 24:56Speaker 1: very much. Publicly, I only date black women. Um. I
- 25:00Speaker 1: I try to be very loyal to black women. I
- 25:02Speaker 1: really believe that that's the right. It's very hard sometimes
- 25:06Speaker 1: because I've been very disappointed with a lot of the
- 25:10Speaker 1: interactions that I have with with black women. Outside of that,
- 25:14Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a get white women. I just
- 25:16Speaker 1: in jail, don't like the vaginas, and I don't want
- 25:19Speaker 1: to have sex with them, and I you know, they're
- 25:21Speaker 1: just you know, they're they're okay. But I just I
- 25:24Speaker 1: think that that that I's not gonna gonna be, you know,
- 25:28Speaker 1: waking up to when I'm sixty. Um, probably not. So
- 25:31Speaker 1: she doesn't quite understand the struggles. She doesn't understand what
- 25:34Speaker 1: we go through. She doesn't quite get it. And so
- 25:36Speaker 1: while it could be a lot of fun, it's just
- 25:38Speaker 1: I it's a cultural difference, and and you know that's
- 25:44Speaker 1: gonna just kind of limit me from from reaching what
- 25:47Speaker 1: I want to do. So, UM, when you said, because
- 25:49Speaker 1: you said you have cheated, but generally you are exclusive.
- 25:53Speaker 1: When you made that decision to cheat, what what was
- 25:56Speaker 1: the thought process that allowed you to give yourself permission
- 25:59Speaker 1: to do Um? It was maker's market. No, I was
- 26:06Speaker 1: by the time that I started, like honestly cheating, I
- 26:09Speaker 1: had already moved out of my home. I was sleeping
- 26:12Speaker 1: in a hotel room. Um, because I was already separated
- 26:15Speaker 1: from my from my ex wife. I was like on
- 26:18Speaker 1: months to be living in a hotel and basically a
- 26:21Speaker 1: girl from work wanted to come over and have drinks
- 26:23Speaker 1: after work and and just hang out, and we ended
- 26:26Speaker 1: up taking too much. And so cheating wasn't the reason
- 26:29Speaker 1: you got divorced. It wasn't because of infidelity. No, No,
- 26:33Speaker 1: it was it was There's nobody that I went to
- 26:35Speaker 1: when I left my hope I was in your marriage.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Did you cheat on your before? No, There's never been
- 26:42Speaker 1: a day where I'm going over to my happy wife
- 26:44Speaker 1: when she's you know, we're in a relationship and I'm cheating,
- 26:47Speaker 1: I just goft another woman. That that never happened. Um.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Certainly when I was in a hotel room, Um, that
- 26:53Speaker 1: you know, that kind of started a whole different path,
- 26:55Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I'm done with this relationship. Living
- 26:57Speaker 1: in a hotel gave you the opportunity. Basically, yeah, I
- 27:00Speaker 1: didn't happen. I was setting there and I'm a jacking
- 27:03Speaker 1: off on myself for you know. And and it wasn't
- 27:06Speaker 1: until that, you know, somebody else is a ball. And
- 27:08Speaker 1: then after that it became, um, it became more of
- 27:11Speaker 1: a regular current because I was like, you know, so,
- 27:14Speaker 1: let me ask you this, prior to you moving out
- 27:17Speaker 1: of the house, when was the last time you sucked
- 27:19Speaker 1: your wife before you went to that hotel, because obviously
- 27:23Speaker 1: out yeah, maybe it was some Uh, it's like we
- 27:26Speaker 1: don't like each other anymore. It starts for us mentally.
- 27:29Speaker 1: So if I'm unhappy my pussy now I didn't win. Yeah,
- 27:33Speaker 1: it's not damn that makes me Now, I'm just imagining,
- 27:37Speaker 1: just thinking about being in a marriage and feeling that way. Yeah,
- 27:40Speaker 1: how long were we married? Almost two years? Okay, wow,
- 27:44Speaker 1: so a long marriage. Well, I mean considerably because you're
- 27:47Speaker 1: only forty so that was a good portion of your
- 27:49Speaker 1: adult life. So let me ask you this. Do you
- 27:52Speaker 1: feel like because I heard you said you left, you
- 27:54Speaker 1: said back home, and now you're saying Atlanta, Um, do
- 27:57Speaker 1: you feel like dating in Atlanta is a different ball game? Um?
- 28:00Speaker 1: So I think Atlanta becomes a bad contil of ambition, misinformation,
- 28:07Speaker 1: and um, toxic feminism. And so we put all those
- 28:10Speaker 1: things together, that is dating in Atlanta. Um. And it's
- 28:14Speaker 1: a lot of very inbitious people here. Oh you know,
- 28:17Speaker 1: and we don't you don't have to be in a relationship.
- 28:20Speaker 1: And frankly, um, most of us are you know, we
- 28:23Speaker 1: wouldn't understand it, but we're all kind of polygue here
- 28:27Speaker 1: and it's and we and it's really uh, it's really
- 28:29Speaker 1: a thing that we kind of kind of step back
- 28:31Speaker 1: and look at. So when you say toxic feminism, it's
- 28:34Speaker 1: fine what that is for me? Um, So what does
- 28:39Speaker 1: it mean to you? Because to me, like it's like, uh,
- 28:42Speaker 1: too many alpha females in Atlanta, too many women that
- 28:45Speaker 1: may have their own So it's like, I don't need
- 28:48Speaker 1: a man type attitudes or well you want to encapculate
- 28:51Speaker 1: it that whole I don't need to I don't need
- 28:53Speaker 1: no man type of statement. That is a statement of
- 28:55Speaker 1: toxic feminism in my opinion, because you're you're saying, wow,
- 28:59Speaker 1: look at my last paycheck. That means I don't need
- 29:01Speaker 1: a man anymore because you've simplified the contribution to I'm
- 29:04Speaker 1: going to tell you just cry at night. Okay, they do.
- 29:09Speaker 1: And I'm because I have friends. I have a lot
- 29:13Speaker 1: of female friends that I fucking we're just female friends,
- 29:16Speaker 1: and I know that they have to struggle, right, And
- 29:19Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you've been like to like, you gotta change.
- 29:22Speaker 1: You can't just think of men as a resource pool
- 29:24Speaker 1: for you. These their whole human beings that you're not.
- 29:27Speaker 1: You're interested in only one test of their life, and
- 29:30Speaker 1: so it's just the utility of man that wants to
- 29:32Speaker 1: be exported from them. You see a lot of that
- 29:34Speaker 1: here in the city, right, you see that, and the
- 29:36Speaker 1: women in this in this age, raams where they should
- 29:39Speaker 1: be the Becky's of the world, to figure out how
- 29:41Speaker 1: do I get married? And a lot of the black
- 29:43Speaker 1: women like how do I get rich? Right? And so
- 29:46Speaker 1: those are two different objectives. And so I don't know
- 29:50Speaker 1: how because all women are attracted to resources like no, no, no,
- 29:54Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Becky's are not trying to figure
- 29:56Speaker 1: out how they're going to do. I'm not saying that
- 29:58Speaker 1: women should not be do whatever they want to. I'm
- 30:00Speaker 1: not saying that. I'm saying that if you're if you're
- 30:02Speaker 1: not focused on a partnering at certain points in your life,
- 30:06Speaker 1: women will run out of what they will be more
- 30:08Speaker 1: complicated for you later. And I'm saying that there's a
- 30:11Speaker 1: lot of that happening with with women right now in
- 30:13Speaker 1: the city. And you know, I just I'm from out
- 30:16Speaker 1: of town. You've been through four years now, and I
- 30:19Speaker 1: can just see it's a different thing because you know,
- 30:22Speaker 1: they will they have their their their money and their
- 30:24Speaker 1: businesses and stuff like that, but they don't have relationships.
- 30:27Speaker 1: And it makes me sad. It makes and it's going
- 30:29Speaker 1: to be that can be good for our people, and
- 30:31Speaker 1: that is what I'm talking about, and that's what I'm about,
- 30:33Speaker 1: is how do I be better our people? And I
- 30:35Speaker 1: don't and I don't think that's good when women have
- 30:37Speaker 1: chosen to not see men for partners but just resources
- 30:41Speaker 1: that they can use for occasionally. So when I lived
- 30:43Speaker 1: in Atlanta, but I lived in Atlanta for some time
- 30:45Speaker 1: in my late journies, and it was the loneliest time
- 30:48Speaker 1: in my life, like because I realized there are just
- 30:51Speaker 1: a couple of different types of men in Atlanta you
- 30:53Speaker 1: have the hetero sexual bumass niggers and to come live
- 30:57Speaker 1: at your house. Then you have the hetero sexual guy
- 30:59Speaker 1: who has its whole shipped together. But then he has
- 31:01Speaker 1: a choice thirty different women. Um, you got to compete with,
- 31:05Speaker 1: and then you have the gay men, and then you
- 31:07Speaker 1: know all these other little people in between. But so
- 31:10Speaker 1: as a woman, you're getting your own money. I think
- 31:13Speaker 1: that black men sometimes have a misconception of exactly what
- 31:17Speaker 1: black women want. Like some Black women just yeah, I
- 31:19Speaker 1: want somebody to take care of me and I want
- 31:21Speaker 1: to keep my money. A lot of people do have
- 31:22Speaker 1: the attitude. They'll well they don't say that, right, but
- 31:24Speaker 1: they really don't live their lives like that because nine
- 31:26Speaker 1: times of the time they could be taking care of
- 31:28Speaker 1: a nigga similar. But um, we want we want a partner,
- 31:32Speaker 1: that I would want a partner, not just somebody that
- 31:35Speaker 1: I'm running through the check you know. So why but
- 31:39Speaker 1: then they're to white women, they are raised and they
- 31:42Speaker 1: practice hypergamy. But for whatever reason, for Black women, we
- 31:45Speaker 1: don't have that option. I don't know what that basically Okay, okay,
- 31:53Speaker 1: someone would say men are naturally polyamorous. Um, some would
- 31:58Speaker 1: say women are naturally hyper and meaning that men want
- 32:01Speaker 1: to funk around spread their seeds or in life, women
- 32:04Speaker 1: because they want to suck as as the highest status
- 32:07Speaker 1: male as possible. And so that is whatever they can
- 32:10Speaker 1: get their hands on whenever they can they want, that's
- 32:13Speaker 1: who they want to be with is the highest drivers man.
- 32:15Speaker 1: And why is that? Because I can create, you know,
- 32:18Speaker 1: come twenty times in a day where you used to
- 32:21Speaker 1: be able to probably can't do it more. But but
- 32:24Speaker 1: women can't make twenty babies in a day, right, you
- 32:27Speaker 1: get times you'll be able to make twenty babies in
- 32:29Speaker 1: this world. So you have to make choices around where
- 32:32Speaker 1: you put your wound. Do you want to align your
- 32:34Speaker 1: wound to the highest value mail that can help north
- 32:38Speaker 1: child the best chances of success in this world? And
- 32:40Speaker 1: that's all it is. And I'm not mad about hypergnmy
- 32:43Speaker 1: and I'm not mad about I think more women, based
- 32:46Speaker 1: on what you're like, I know what a hypergnmy is,
- 32:48Speaker 1: and more women need to practice hypergumy because if we did,
- 32:51Speaker 1: because we set the standards right, more men would be
- 32:54Speaker 1: successful exactly and children would be taken care of. We
- 32:57Speaker 1: wouldn't be having just just having a baby. Fan anybody.
- 33:00Speaker 1: I can't even argue with your descriptions the categories of men.
- 33:03Speaker 1: That's a good roundbout with thinking those couch flovers, you
- 33:06Speaker 1: know they go for wood counsel with others because is
- 33:10Speaker 1: you know. And that was so good, Nathan eas thank
- 33:15Speaker 1: you for joining us, and we'd love to have you back.
- 33:19Speaker 1: One more thing on your treating cheat. So he didn't
- 33:23Speaker 1: really cheat, I mean he didn't really talk about cheating
- 33:26Speaker 1: maybe in another relationship. But he spoke about how he
- 33:28Speaker 1: was married for teen years and sorry, yeah, so I
- 33:32Speaker 1: mean that count he was still married, so that means
- 33:34Speaker 1: he's just cheating, right, And he basically said because he
- 33:39Speaker 1: basically the relationship was over, even though the paperwork wasn't done,
- 33:43Speaker 1: the relationship was over and that's how he gave himself
- 33:45Speaker 1: permission to cheat. Do you think that holds value? Like?
- 33:48Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense for me. She probably didn't
- 33:51Speaker 1: give a funk no more either, and neither party is
- 33:54Speaker 1: in it. Yeah, and especially if a man ain't been
- 33:56Speaker 1: at home for two months, right, that's not your man.
- 33:59Speaker 1: He butted to the streets exactly wherever he had. But
- 34:05Speaker 1: out of the two guys we've heard so far, if
- 34:08Speaker 1: I had to kill, like funk with one of them.
- 34:10Speaker 1: It would be corporate bro. I think all right, listen,
- 34:14Speaker 1: I would funk with the corporate nigga and then oh
- 34:18Speaker 1: boy would be my side nigga. Shame. I don't want
- 34:23Speaker 1: no parts to that. I'm jumping street nigga man street niggas.
- 34:28Speaker 1: I know. But if I was a twenty four year
- 34:30Speaker 1: old fund girl, Hell yeah, I'm near and I don't
- 34:32Speaker 1: give a ship about your responsibilities at home. I'm running
- 34:35Speaker 1: to check up and damn vip like my favorite is
- 34:39Speaker 1: a corporate street nigga. Yes, I love hood niggas that
- 34:43Speaker 1: made it. They just treat you so nice that you're
- 34:47Speaker 1: just so nice. And even if they did, like maybe
- 34:49Speaker 1: three years in prison also just three now a little
- 34:53Speaker 1: bit more than that. They kind of need therapy. Ud
- 34:56Speaker 1: niggas who come home with the plan and yeah, I
- 35:00Speaker 1: like hooding examine it also my favorite time. But they
- 35:04Speaker 1: like they like the smoke weed too. They're not too stuffy,
- 35:08Speaker 1: but they're not like they still want to get up
- 35:10Speaker 1: and go work the next day. It's great for me.
- 35:14Speaker 1: So what do you think about are I call him?
- 35:17Speaker 1: I'm calling him high value? What do you think about him?
- 35:20Speaker 1: Um in his situation. I don't know why I'm receiving bitter,
- 35:24Speaker 1: a little little little hard, just a little maybe a
- 35:30Speaker 1: little jaded perhaps, No, I just I was receiving that
- 35:33Speaker 1: in the spirit. I didn't get that. I thought he
- 35:38Speaker 1: was a responsible man. You know what I'm saying. He's
- 35:40Speaker 1: singles and now he's doing what he want to do.
- 35:42Speaker 1: And he said he's the super whole. Now as long
- 35:44Speaker 1: as you know other people feelings involved. But can you
- 35:48Speaker 1: really be a superhole and nobody's feelings are involved? I
- 35:51Speaker 1: guess it depends on how you dealing with them, how
- 35:54Speaker 1: how you sucking them. So that kind of leads us
- 35:56Speaker 1: to the next conversation. Listen up, hi, this is a
- 36:02Speaker 1: J and Tamba And when we talked back, thank you
- 36:04Speaker 1: so much for participating in this experiment with dis experiment
- 36:10Speaker 1: with these niggers. Right, so we want to ask you
- 36:14Speaker 1: just like some questions about you, your relationship with your
- 36:18Speaker 1: dick and others. Okay, all right, so first, uh just
- 36:26Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about yourself, ezra Um. Well,
- 36:29Speaker 1: I'm an executive at my company and I graduated college,
- 36:33Speaker 1: kind of moved around on the dout West and I
- 36:35Speaker 1: live on the on the East Coast. Now, so I'm
- 36:38Speaker 1: a black gay male, so I've been in rights for
- 36:42Speaker 1: females and with and with I'm a guys. I'm a
- 36:45Speaker 1: little bit diversed in my dating population. Which do you
- 36:48Speaker 1: prefer guys? For sure? Yeah? Yes, it's my personal favorite.
- 36:57Speaker 1: Definitely need more. So we're just going to ask you
- 37:02Speaker 1: like a series of questions. The first one, all right, first,
- 37:06Speaker 1: I was what was your last When was his last
- 37:09Speaker 1: serious relationship? I'm currently in a relationship. I'm not currently
- 37:13Speaker 1: in a relationship. I just got out of a relationship yesterday,
- 37:16Speaker 1: so congratulations. I don't know middle things to my old
- 37:27Speaker 1: life before night, it was like, uh like three years ago,
- 37:32Speaker 1: and that's the last person a couple of years ago.
- 37:35Speaker 1: So question, have you ever cheated? Yeah, I've cheated them,
- 37:39Speaker 1: been cheated on, so I know I know boths Okay, facts,
- 37:43Speaker 1: I've never cheated. I'm innocent. But when when you decided
- 37:49Speaker 1: to cheat? How did you give yourself permission to do that? Like?
- 37:53Speaker 1: What was the thought that was, like, you know what,
- 37:55Speaker 1: I'm about to go do this? Um? For me, I
- 37:58Speaker 1: was kind of like the provider in that relationship, you know,
- 38:02Speaker 1: I was taking care of all of this I was like,
- 38:03Speaker 1: for lotting at the house of staying and I'll pay
- 38:05Speaker 1: for two cars. Like I had a lot of ships
- 38:07Speaker 1: that I'm taking care of as a man take care
- 38:09Speaker 1: of another man especially gets real real quick. And then
- 38:12Speaker 1: when it came downtime to like, you know, I'm coming
- 38:14Speaker 1: home from work or I had to work like an
- 38:16Speaker 1: hour and a half. But where I live, so I'm
- 38:18Speaker 1: coming home from work, you don't have like ship together.
- 38:20Speaker 1: You don't have like the house and order, you ain't
- 38:22Speaker 1: cooking nothing like what value or got into my life.
- 38:25Speaker 1: So when I'd be at work, you know, and people
- 38:27Speaker 1: showing me love and attention and affection and like, you know,
- 38:30Speaker 1: I'm at a place at work where people are like
- 38:32Speaker 1: spending on me and I feel good. I was like,
- 38:34Speaker 1: I want to do that. And I ended up like
- 38:36Speaker 1: working with a guy in the city that I was
- 38:38Speaker 1: working in just because I like nice stuff too. So
- 38:41Speaker 1: you basically yeah, so because because I've been in a
- 38:45Speaker 1: situation like that before and it does kind of put you.
- 38:47Speaker 1: And I'm a woman head of sexual and I was
- 38:49Speaker 1: in a relationship with a man at the time and
- 38:51Speaker 1: he wasn't doing much. I understand that. So if you
- 38:55Speaker 1: wear the pants. You think you can just go cheat.
- 38:58Speaker 1: I don't think yes said that you can in goo cheat.
- 39:00Speaker 1: I think that if you're not if something's not being
- 39:03Speaker 1: satisfied in your life, like now, I've been through like
- 39:05Speaker 1: therapy and ship, so I would know to like talk
- 39:07Speaker 1: about it and say, like be more vocal and say like, Yo,
- 39:11Speaker 1: this isn't working for me because once to three and
- 39:13Speaker 1: four vertu like just being upset about it coming home
- 39:16Speaker 1: and like flipping out and then when I get the
- 39:18Speaker 1: chance to get what I want getting it elsewhere, Like
- 39:20Speaker 1: I could have just talked about it. Because the sex
- 39:22Speaker 1: at home was good, as we had really good sects,
- 39:24Speaker 1: like every time we did hook up, like that's part
- 39:27Speaker 1: of the reason why I stayed. It actually good. But
- 39:29Speaker 1: with everything else, I just wasn't getting a full picture.
- 39:32Speaker 1: So I just got that from from somebody else who
- 39:34Speaker 1: could give it to me. So it was just about
- 39:36Speaker 1: the stuff that made you step out. It wasn't say
- 39:39Speaker 1: it was material things that was missing from relationship. You
- 39:43Speaker 1: can't say like material ship because I don't know. I'm
- 39:45Speaker 1: not the kind of person that needs material things as much.
- 39:48Speaker 1: It was more so the level of affection and like hustle,
- 39:52Speaker 1: like that was an attractive traite to me, and I wasn't.
- 39:54Speaker 1: I was losing that attraction from my partner. So I
- 39:57Speaker 1: found it in somebody else who was hustling on the
- 40:00Speaker 1: on and you know that that was attractive to me,
- 40:02Speaker 1: and I was able to get that versus at home.
- 40:04Speaker 1: I'm coming home and y'all lady asked me to the
- 40:06Speaker 1: house all day, like you know, you like, we ain't
- 40:07Speaker 1: got no kids, how you have to like to stay
- 40:09Speaker 1: at home mom? But you never had so. Through therapy
- 40:13Speaker 1: after the situation, you learned how to then communicate your
- 40:17Speaker 1: feelings better. So then at that time, you didn't communicate
- 40:20Speaker 1: to the person you were with how you felt and
- 40:23Speaker 1: how they weren't meeting whatever expectations you had for them.
- 40:26Speaker 1: You didn't communicate that. You just went out and slept
- 40:29Speaker 1: with somebody else to complete your happiness. I mean we
- 40:31Speaker 1: had some conversation, like I would express my frustrations in
- 40:35Speaker 1: general about like the fact that you're not on your ship,
- 40:38Speaker 1: and then I would say like, well, you know, I'm
- 40:41Speaker 1: kind of can be kind of an asshote sometimes, so
- 40:43Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, like somebody will make
- 40:45Speaker 1: sure I'm straight and just laugh it off. Like a
- 40:47Speaker 1: little joke. So I kind of like alluding to that,
- 40:50Speaker 1: but it wasn't a joke, right, do what I need
- 40:55Speaker 1: most to it? They do, and mine definitely packed a
- 40:58Speaker 1: big punch because I definitely you like, yeah, get my
- 41:02Speaker 1: dicks up. You ain't right. I feel like that's even trade,
- 41:15Speaker 1: like if you ain't done for twelve hours whatever I
- 41:18Speaker 1: want to. Did you possess any guilt? Um? Yeah, I
- 41:23Speaker 1: felt bad because I had to come home. You know,
- 41:26Speaker 1: I think it wasn't like out yeah, da, I felt
- 41:31Speaker 1: bad because I had to come home, like in the
- 41:35Speaker 1: spence like I just got my di and now I'm
- 41:37Speaker 1: about to come home to you. It's about to kiss
- 41:39Speaker 1: me my face, Like that's that's kind of sucked up, Like,
- 41:42Speaker 1: well let's do that. You You know you possessed the
- 41:44Speaker 1: guilt because some nig is like sleep peacefully after they
- 41:47Speaker 1: got come home and you too, right, they ain't even been. Yeah.
- 41:54Speaker 1: I did some of that too. I got that, like
- 41:58Speaker 1: when you come home and fitching about like how you
- 42:01Speaker 1: ain't do nothing all this time? Did you come home
- 42:03Speaker 1: that one time you're cheated? You come home and then
- 42:06Speaker 1: and clean the house, put the meal. I got the
- 42:07Speaker 1: whole situation together and you're like, and they want to
- 42:11Speaker 1: like funk with you right then, you know, because they're
- 42:13Speaker 1: working up to it. So it's like, I just you
- 42:16Speaker 1: gotta be able to get it back up, so it's
- 42:18Speaker 1: not ideal. Yeah, did you did you build a relationship
- 42:23Speaker 1: with your outside partner or was it just you know,
- 42:26Speaker 1: like it is what it is and I see you
- 42:28Speaker 1: later this ain't that and that ain't this, so don't
- 42:30Speaker 1: get too caught up. Or was it like y'all started
- 42:33Speaker 1: building an emotional connection perhaps, I mean bro had a
- 42:37Speaker 1: whole girlfriend like situation and we both were traveling for
- 42:42Speaker 1: work in town. It was like that was my niggawn
- 42:46Speaker 1: something else. So wait, so that makes it all right?
- 42:50Speaker 1: So maybe this tell me if this term is correct,
- 42:52Speaker 1: that would make him a trade. A trade. Yes, so
- 42:55Speaker 1: he wasn't openly bisexual to his girl. No, he wasn't
- 42:59Speaker 1: open to nobody at all. We actually met the hotel,
- 43:06Speaker 1: like we were at the hotel, like he was traveling,
- 43:09Speaker 1: I was traveling, was at the bar and like, so
- 43:11Speaker 1: I'm aggressive with my shots. I'll just be like, yo,
- 43:13Speaker 1: would not be cool, like we should hang out? And
- 43:15Speaker 1: did We just hung out and he started like you
- 43:17Speaker 1: know he had a better job to need. In general,
- 43:19Speaker 1: he was just a bean, you know, who was taking
- 43:21Speaker 1: care of peace and whatever form that was. So that
- 43:24Speaker 1: was attracted to me that you know. So we're up
- 43:26Speaker 1: in town, we were working around, and we go back
- 43:28Speaker 1: to our houses and it is what it is. That's
- 43:31Speaker 1: so fu scary man trying to figure out okay, because
- 43:37Speaker 1: this is going into something different. I'm trying to figure
- 43:39Speaker 1: out the and I guess this is not a question
- 43:41Speaker 1: for you. We have to find somebody who is a
- 43:44Speaker 1: trade basically because I want to understand their dot process
- 43:47Speaker 1: when with the same sex. That's a different episode. Well
- 43:50Speaker 1: not definitely took you up for the next episode. Please yes, nigger,
- 43:55Speaker 1: please the real yes, okay, And they're not who you
- 44:00Speaker 1: think they are. I already know. I already know already
- 44:03Speaker 1: because everybody like the things like light skinned, green eyes,
- 44:06Speaker 1: the gay guy know the trade is omar from wire
- 44:13Speaker 1: or the nigger riding around here with the don't right
- 44:17Speaker 1: here and I'm about to brown thin muscles like you
- 44:20Speaker 1: know this stuff, like you know, every girl I know
- 44:22Speaker 1: was won the interesting What do you think you were
- 44:26Speaker 1: a different person in the affair to the outside partner,
- 44:30Speaker 1: like were you the same at home with this person
- 44:33Speaker 1: or did you display a different side of yourself to him,
- 44:36Speaker 1: Like were you more the submissive with the trade? I
- 44:40Speaker 1: mean not really because at the same time like the
- 44:43Speaker 1: trade to think about them, and they usually want you
- 44:45Speaker 1: to be like the man when they comes like the
- 44:47Speaker 1: bedroom stuff, like they really like Yeah, in the city,
- 44:51Speaker 1: like around town, they're giving off like I'm a man,
- 44:53Speaker 1: I'm a man. But when they get in that bedroom
- 44:56Speaker 1: down like they turned into a whole ldy. So you know,
- 45:01Speaker 1: I was still that I was running it either way sextually,
- 45:04Speaker 1: but when it came to like when we went out
- 45:06Speaker 1: to dinner or something like that, he's running now, you know.
- 45:08Speaker 1: So it's like he was the dude out quote unquote
- 45:11Speaker 1: to Doude in the in the street, at the hotel
- 45:14Speaker 1: room he was. He was the girl. Interesting. Interesting. See,
- 45:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here for everybody. You know, I would
- 45:23Speaker 1: kill my nigga if I found out that he was
- 45:27Speaker 1: getting you feel bad if he was doing yes really
- 45:31Speaker 1: to a woman. Oh either way, I'm mad. It's the
- 45:34Speaker 1: nigga and not another woman. But to insult the injury,
- 45:39Speaker 1: not only are you working with another nigga, but you're
- 45:41Speaker 1: also getting fun. Yeah, it's crazy. We don't talk anymore
- 45:48Speaker 1: because the way I got caught cheating is that niggating
- 45:50Speaker 1: stp Wait so wait all right, we got unity the trade.
- 45:55Speaker 1: The trade gave me st Did you pass it on
- 45:57Speaker 1: to your partner at home? I did, and that's how
- 46:01Speaker 1: you got caught. That's how I got caught. And what
- 46:03Speaker 1: was the conversation that name? Hey, my dick is burning
- 46:07Speaker 1: a little bit, but I didn't say nothing at first.
- 46:11Speaker 1: I woke up and I was like, this ain't the thing, right.
- 46:15Speaker 1: I went to head and went to the urgent care,
- 46:17Speaker 1: you know, I got checked out and they told me
- 46:19Speaker 1: I had gone a real I was like, because I
- 46:21Speaker 1: knew I had just like both of my main like
- 46:24Speaker 1: my like to do that with me. So I knew
- 46:26Speaker 1: I had just had sex with him. I was like, dang,
- 46:27Speaker 1: that means he probably got it. I gotta tell him.
- 46:29Speaker 1: And O Loki was scheming on like if I was
- 46:31Speaker 1: gonna just like get extra pills and just like put
- 46:34Speaker 1: him in a smoothie or something. So I didn't want
- 46:35Speaker 1: to have that. I was like doing playing bees. Probably right,
- 46:44Speaker 1: you want another mimosa, Right, I'm gonna make that. I
- 46:49Speaker 1: think I saw the pizza. Now, yeah, stop babysitting there.
- 46:53Speaker 1: Drink drink. That ship read seventy two hours, right, and
- 46:56Speaker 1: we got one more hour before I with daddy, right,
- 47:02Speaker 1: you know. But then the doctor told me how to
- 47:03Speaker 1: get like a shot to what I'm shot. We had
- 47:08Speaker 1: that nigga from the back and stabbing in the button, yeah,
- 47:15Speaker 1: I said, I just like accused him of cheating. Oh wow,
- 47:20Speaker 1: I was on the most Yeah, that was what boy behavior.
- 47:26Speaker 1: And then he probably got it from his bitch who
- 47:30Speaker 1: was getting some dick on the side too. Yeah. I
- 47:33Speaker 1: actually did tell him, but he like after that, he
- 47:36Speaker 1: just ghosted because you're gonna give me leave me along creek.
- 47:44Speaker 1: That made me feel like he knew he had something, right,
- 47:46Speaker 1: we knew. I really feel like he knew it. But
- 47:48Speaker 1: I mean, at the same time, like I did appreciate
- 47:50Speaker 1: the great sex for that time, for that like conference,
- 47:53Speaker 1: So I mean the probace you pay for being a
- 47:55Speaker 1: home no more. I just have one bit of advice.
- 47:59Speaker 1: No more outside dick, look, because that outside did keep
- 48:05Speaker 1: them most sick. All right, thank you so much. All Right,
- 48:11Speaker 1: the man, we definitely have to have him back on
- 48:17Speaker 1: the trade. I care wait to talk about the trade,
- 48:22Speaker 1: because that's a whole another ball game, baby girl, I'm
- 48:25Speaker 1: scared of he's scared of the trade. That was very interesting.
- 48:32Speaker 1: So basically he said that the person he they had
- 48:35Speaker 1: bomb sex at home, but this person wasn't doing anything.
- 48:39Speaker 1: So this person was bringing me resources to the pot.
- 48:42Speaker 1: So I'm the man in the house, I'm financing your
- 48:44Speaker 1: entire life. I deserve to cheat. So with his attitude, right,
- 48:49Speaker 1: and the moral is nobody woman or man wants lazy dick,
- 48:54Speaker 1: get up yourself. Nobody wants it gay straight, Well, I'm
- 49:00Speaker 1: nobody wants. I wonder. I wonder if society would say, oh,
- 49:04Speaker 1: his his standards too high? How they do us? Is that?
- 49:08Speaker 1: How you do black women? Out stand this too high?
- 49:10Speaker 1: Because we want you to meet us halfway. I don't
- 49:13Speaker 1: want my man to also enjoy that. I don't. Yeah,
- 49:17Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not opposed. Like I have gay friends.
- 49:21Speaker 1: I hate to say it, like that people have white
- 49:22Speaker 1: people like I have black friends, but I have gay friends.
- 49:26Speaker 1: But I have gay friends. They're not straddling the fence, right,
- 49:30Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. So if that's what you like,
- 49:33Speaker 1: you need to make you need to at some point,
- 49:35Speaker 1: man you gotta come out the closet because there are
- 49:39Speaker 1: women out here who are okay with that ship, right, Like,
- 49:42Speaker 1: it's not a problem. You can do both, and y'all
- 49:46Speaker 1: can all do it together like a little by little
- 49:49Speaker 1: sequel type ship. Right, whatever you want, but don't be deceitful, man.
- 49:54Speaker 1: So let me tell you. Let's tell you all a
- 49:56Speaker 1: little secret that I do when I'm like getting in
- 49:59Speaker 1: all man, before we fuck, Like, oh, I'll put on
- 50:03Speaker 1: a movie with a gay scene in it, and then
- 50:06Speaker 1: we'll just be chilling. And then when the gay scene
- 50:08Speaker 1: comes on, when it's good into it, I grab this
- 50:10Speaker 1: dick just to see if it's hard, because if it's hard,
- 50:16Speaker 1: baby sending you back to the straights. But that's terrible.
- 50:20Speaker 1: Why is that terrible? I don't know, because I feel
- 50:22Speaker 1: like it is there a correlation, Like, Okay, so it's
- 50:25Speaker 1: a sexual act going on, right, So should the man
- 50:29Speaker 1: penuts not get hard at all? But two niggers fucking no? Oh? No, man?
- 50:35Speaker 1: So you I heard porn Hub. Porn Hub said there's
- 50:39Speaker 1: a lot of gay porn being watched. So guys, honestly,
- 50:42Speaker 1: are y'all getting hard on during gay scenes with men?
- 50:47Speaker 1: If you are then you need to explore that. But
- 50:50Speaker 1: they may not necessarily like a man. Then maybe they're
- 50:52Speaker 1: aroused by that. Explore that. Because I don't like women,
- 50:56Speaker 1: but I like orgy sex. I like to watch orgy
- 50:59Speaker 1: porn or every body fucking and touching and spitting and
- 51:01Speaker 1: sucking I like, but you don't. You might want to
- 51:07Speaker 1: explore that. No, I don't. I like a lot of dick,
- 51:10Speaker 1: not like at one time, right, I like um woman
- 51:19Speaker 1: on woman porn, and I don't usually watch porn with
- 51:21Speaker 1: a minute. But you just watched Lesbie important. That's it.
- 51:25Speaker 1: I don't really watch porn though, I'm more of an imagination.
- 51:28Speaker 1: I haven't watched porn in a while. I only discovered
- 51:32Speaker 1: poor in two thousand seventeen. Really, yeah, I always use
- 51:36Speaker 1: my imagination. That's it. So if you're in a relationship
- 51:40Speaker 1: and masturbating and then having a thought about somebody else,
- 51:44Speaker 1: and I've seen that you somebody relationship. If I'm masturbating,
- 51:49Speaker 1: I think about him. Okay, you're not thinking about somebody else. No, really,
- 51:54Speaker 1: I think about like past sexual experiences, and usually with
- 51:57Speaker 1: that person. It's with the nigga that I'm dealing with
- 51:59Speaker 1: at the time. Okay, So yeah, that's how it goes.
- 52:04Speaker 1: I don't know. I watched I watched the porn. Yeah
- 52:08Speaker 1: it's cool, you watched the port of Lot. Who's your
- 52:10Speaker 1: favorite porn female? Oh? I forgot. You don't like girls.
- 52:15Speaker 1: I don't even know, Like who's the popping porn guys? Now, Like,
- 52:20Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not into it, like not. I
- 52:23Speaker 1: used to like Mr Marcus. Yeah that's the old school, yes,
- 52:28Speaker 1: but then one day he was like fucking a bit
- 52:30Speaker 1: in the kitchen on the scene and he had like
- 52:33Speaker 1: this dent in his bowls, and it turned me off
- 52:38Speaker 1: from that point, and I did not like Mr Marcus.
- 52:41Speaker 1: He had like a little dent in his balls. I'm like,
- 52:43Speaker 1: he does not does not like balls. But it's like
- 52:46Speaker 1: almost the equivalent to like, like I went, men like
- 52:49Speaker 1: to talk to about women who have like longer ladies
- 52:53Speaker 1: or whatever. That's the equivalent, like your dick is ran through?
- 52:55Speaker 1: Why your balls look like that ran through? Eat up?
- 53:01Speaker 1: I think I've been beat up, Bob, I can't do it.
- 53:07Speaker 1: And then you know he'd be ashy down there like
- 53:10Speaker 1: that's not cute. And then I remember I don't know
- 53:12Speaker 1: if it was him, Oh, what was other guy's name now.
- 53:15Speaker 1: I used to like to see this dude. Fuck um
- 53:19Speaker 1: oh no, Helen, not viroling. I don't have a guy
- 53:24Speaker 1: could be giving you backrubs while he got the dicking, Like,
- 53:28Speaker 1: how are you rubbing the damn porn bitch? You're giving
- 53:32Speaker 1: her a back beside with the dick. It's for the
- 53:34Speaker 1: entertainment purposes for girls. But man, that sounds really good.
- 53:38Speaker 1: So trying that with your lady tonight. You're welcome, ladies.
- 53:44Speaker 1: So what what did we learn today? I don't feel
- 53:47Speaker 1: like I learned ship maybe either, man, I feel like
- 53:49Speaker 1: you need to interview some more people. I don't think
- 53:52Speaker 1: we're gonna learn anything different. These niggas just go are
- 53:55Speaker 1: we are sorry? These men? We should also do women
- 53:58Speaker 1: to see why women? Oh yeah, we need to talk.
- 54:00Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want this to be
- 54:02Speaker 1: one sided. I don't want men to feel like this
- 54:04Speaker 1: is like a man bash podcast, because it's not. You know,
- 54:07Speaker 1: it's not because we'd be on some both shoot two.
- 54:09Speaker 1: There's such thing as a fun girl, right, and we
- 54:11Speaker 1: just wanted to hear him it's truth, you know, And
- 54:13Speaker 1: I feel like we got to receive that today, just
- 54:17Speaker 1: the voice, the recognition like so women. If if there
- 54:23Speaker 1: are any ladies who would like to participate again, send
- 54:28Speaker 1: us an email or you can hit us up on
- 54:31Speaker 1: Instagram or Instagram. Is we talk Back Podcast? So it's
- 54:35Speaker 1: at We Talked Back Podcast, or you can email us
- 54:39Speaker 1: and let us know you want to participate at We
- 54:42Speaker 1: Talk Back p o D at gmail dot com and
- 54:45Speaker 1: we would much appreciate it. We're gonna be talking some
- 54:50Speaker 1: real ship on this show. We have like so many
- 54:52Speaker 1: different segments that we've created. There's gonna be so much
- 54:57Speaker 1: fun for y'all to participate with us. Um, we're some
- 55:00Speaker 1: of the segments that we got. One of my favorites
- 55:03Speaker 1: dumb bitch stories. Yes, we want to hear your dumb
- 55:08Speaker 1: bitch stories. You know, not necessarily just you know, trying
- 55:11Speaker 1: to play you, calling you a dumb bitch, but you know,
- 55:13Speaker 1: it gives us an opportunity to maybe coach you a
- 55:16Speaker 1: little bit. I like to think of myself as a
- 55:18Speaker 1: whole coach and um, it also gives us an opportunity
- 55:24Speaker 1: to laugh at your Yes, we can't laugh at our
- 55:29Speaker 1: own ship. What can we laugh at? All of us
- 55:31Speaker 1: have been a dumb bitch before? Because I remember crying
- 55:34Speaker 1: in my eclipse bit that was no fun and it
- 55:41Speaker 1: was different. Yeah, I had to level up, but them
- 55:46Speaker 1: tears and the eclips and clips didn't have no a C.
- 55:49Speaker 1: I used to ride with the top by, but when
- 55:52Speaker 1: I remember, it was raining, so I have no a C.
- 55:55Speaker 1: And I rolled the windows up in the summertime. Bitch
- 55:57Speaker 1: almost died. Motherfucker. Guy Steve out and I called the
- 56:07Speaker 1: same nigger that was cheat up. He's like, I can't
- 56:09Speaker 1: see and he was just like, he said the same
- 56:14Speaker 1: thing that was cheating on you, and he was just like,
- 56:17Speaker 1: a bitch, just let me know when you make it
- 56:19Speaker 1: home safe like you have. Damn, man, women, do not
- 56:24Speaker 1: be out here using your vagina on someone that you
- 56:27Speaker 1: cannot depend on. That's our dumb bitch advice for today. Okay,
- 56:32Speaker 1: along with dumb bitch stories. The first dumb bitch motherfucking show.
- 56:38Speaker 1: God damn, that's an old dumb bitch story. Know you
- 56:42Speaker 1: have that, dumb but that was a long time ago.
- 56:45Speaker 1: We're making new dumb bitch memories now. We're talking to
- 56:50Speaker 1: any women out here right now who has a quarter
- 56:52Speaker 1: tank of gas ball tires oil oil oil, change light
- 56:57Speaker 1: on and you're calling your brother and you inig house
- 57:01Speaker 1: in those conditions, right, and then when you need to
- 57:03Speaker 1: help your brother come out to help you instead of
- 57:05Speaker 1: then you're getting the whole attitude because your brother won't
- 57:08Speaker 1: come right. Don't be her reevaluate your vagina. Man. So
- 57:14Speaker 1: that's gonna be a real fun segment. Um, ask a
- 57:17Speaker 1: Black friend. This is an opportunity for you nine black
- 57:22Speaker 1: people to call in or email us and ask questions
- 57:26Speaker 1: to us that you wouldn't normally ask the black people
- 57:30Speaker 1: who existing around you. Or maybe you don't even have
- 57:32Speaker 1: any black people around you and you're in Wyoming or
- 57:36Speaker 1: some ship like that, and you want to ask some
- 57:38Speaker 1: black people about some ship, anything like why do we
- 57:41Speaker 1: use lorries? So that's ask a black friend. Call up,
- 57:46Speaker 1: ask us anything, email us, ask us any question. It
- 57:49Speaker 1: will save you from getting your ass be in your
- 57:51Speaker 1: own community or going viral for some dumb ship. And
- 57:55Speaker 1: now you out here in the airport screaming talk about
- 57:59Speaker 1: I love y'all saw that white man? Yes, all right, y'all.
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