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James Corbett: The Nature of Power and Control · UK Column Radio

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It's been a long time. James Orbit, thank you for
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joining me in the trenches. No problem, thank you for having
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me back on. It has been a long time, hasn't
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it? Yes, and it feels like
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everything has changed and yet nothing has changed.
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That's a good way of putting it, yeah.
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In what way do you mean that? Well, everything seems like a
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circus and and theatre and, and it seems as though we could be
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having this exact same discussion 10 years from now.
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Yeah. Well, OK, maybe, maybe not the
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specifics, but the generalities, yes.
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And in fact, I would say we could have had the same
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conversation a couple thousand years ago because to my mind,
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there is an incredible continuity in human history that
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is always occluded from our attention.
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Because I think that the people in power don't want us to
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understand the simple fact that ruling oligarchies have always
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existed throughout history and presumably always will.
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Well, I hope not, but at any rate, they certainly do in our
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era. But for some reason, for
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whatever reason in our indoctrination systems, we grew
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up believing that that's crazy conspiracy theory.
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No, we live in democracies. The people are the government.
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You know, everything's above board.
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If there's ever in a conspiracy, it gets it gets found out, and
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it's only a little thing. It doesn't matter.
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No, ruling oligarchs work behind the scenes to consolidate their
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power and control over as much of the globe as possible, as
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they always have throughout human history.
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What we're living through right now is no fundamentally
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different in that respect. Yes, the particularities are
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different, usually just just the technological differences, but
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other than that, I think it's the same story over and over
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throughout many, many, many generations.
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That almost sounds a bit black pulled.
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Yes, yes it does. I will, I will concede because
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as I say presumably always will, right.
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And I get that particular turn of phrase from from Aldous
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Huxley, obviously of the Huxley family, well known in certain
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circles, eugenicist family with of course, Aldous brother Julian
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Huxley being literally a president, I believe, of the
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British Eugenic Society for a number of years.
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And someone who was certainly on the inside of the British upper
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crust establishment of his day and knew a thing or two about
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what was going on. And he talked about the I, I
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can't remember what he said, but something to the effect of the
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ruling oligarchy that has always existed and presumably always
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will. And I think he was speaking in
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that regard as if not a actual member of the inner clique, at
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least some sort of, you know, super Gopher or in some position
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to at least have one foot inside that world and to know what he's
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talking about. So maybe I have picked up a bit
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of that black pill from that. Now, ultimately, I mean, I guess
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ultimately, I wouldn't be here talking to you.
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I wouldn't be doing this work at all if I thought that there was
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no hope for anything and that we're doomed to an eternity of
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suffering or anything along those lines.
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No, I do what I do because I, I see a lot of good in the world.
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I see a lot of beauty in the world.
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I see things that I have family and friends that I love and want
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to protect and want to create things in the world and I want
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to preserve that. So that is why I do what I do.
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And I, if I didn't think there was any chance for that, I guess
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I would just be off whatever, drinking myself into oblivion or
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whatever it is people will do to distract themselves.
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I'm not. I am here doing this because I
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think that there is something worth fighting for.
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But I, you know, I try to be realistic about it.
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Do I know that we're going to win and forever upset the
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oligarchy and win forever? Well, I, I certainly don't know
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that. But my, I guess my view is that
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there will always be these periods of growing encroaching
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tyranny and then the kickback against that, the fight against
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that. And that that battle is always
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taking place throughout human history, and again, presumably
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always has. And to me, at the very least, as
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long as the human spirit exists, we will continue to fight back
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against tyrants and oligarchs. And there will still be at least
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that, that that spark of human unquenchable ingenuity, whatever
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it is that that keeps us going. And that's the beauty of it.
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But unfortunately, that is that is my real.
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If I have a black pill, that is it.
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As I say, as long as humanity is humanity, we will continue to
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fight against the oligarchs. But for how much longer will we
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be humanity? Because, as I'm sure you know,
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we're heading towards that transhuman nightmare that seems
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less and less like science fiction craziness and more and
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more like mundane reality. If we are in a perpetual war, a
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perma info war as you've said, for such a long time, and
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presumably for a very long time, what is the point then in
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fighting? Why not just resort to ignorance
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is bliss. That's a good question, and I
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think it presumes that what I am doing is fighting or fighting
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against. But as I say, I am not fighting
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against. I am protecting or carving out
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space for what I already see in the world.
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There is beauty in the world, there is good.
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There is love. There are things to cherish and
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to love and to create and all of the wonderful things they do
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exist already. And I, I want to preserve and
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protect that and hopefully expand the space for that.
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I'm not fighting against so much as I am protecting.
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And I think that's a different way of thinking about that I.
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Mean, I'm obviously being facetious because you do a lot
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of solutions based work, which which of course in itself is
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very important. But that for me is is a
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fascinating paradigm because I don't know if you've noticed how
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few people actually care about solutions.
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People love doom scrolling and sensation and sharing the worst
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of the worst in Telegram and WhatsApp etcetera.
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Yeah, you, you don't have to tell me that.
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I mean, you do you think I don't see, I don't, I do not look at
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the numbers and the stats and I don't have Google Analytics on
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my website or anything. I don't try to track this in any
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way. But from time to time I do see
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my various channels and things and I see the comments on, on my
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site and etcetera. And I, there is no doubt that my
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solutions watch series gets maybe half, maybe 1/4 of the
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traffic of my usual, you know, like, Oh my God, this is a
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horrible, bad thing that's happening that will get at least
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twice as many clicks as a, hey, here's what you can do about it.
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And you know, if I had some solution to that, I think I'd be
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implementing it myself. But it is just, it is part of
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human nature. We are hardwired to look for
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threats and to look for things that are, you know, going wrong.
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And I get why that happens, but it is to me.
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Maybe I'm just temperamentally built this way, but to me it's
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so weird because when I see a threat or a problem, my really
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my first thought is, OK, what are we going to do about it?
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And if the answer is nothing, then what do I care, right?
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If it doesn't have an answer, then why are you?
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Why are you even paying attention to it?
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Oh, James, come on, let's be real, you don't have to do
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anything. Q has told us that the white
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hats, the white hats are there and Trump is coming to save us.
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Yeah, yeah, I again, I completely understand why
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someone would want to believe that so hard that they actually
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convince themselves that it is true.
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But as, as I would hope some of your audience knows, I, I had a,
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a documentary a few years ago on opium, A brief history of opium
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that goes into that phenomenon and what it's about and why
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people hope it put their faith in these various political
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saviours that swoop in. And again, it's completely
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understandable because yes, the, it seems overwhelming.
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And certainly if all you do is the doom scrolling and listening
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to the naysayers and the everything's going wrong, then
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you would think, yeah, it's completely doomed.
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And the only hope we could possibly have is some white hat
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on the inside of this oligarchy that's going to throw everything
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into into chaos and and make everything better again.
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And so here we are. And now Trump says you are a
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weakling and an idiot for believing the stupid Democrat
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made Epstein hoax. Don't you know?
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So congratulations voters, you get what you want, which is
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another pathocrat in power. Just a different flavour of
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pathocrat. Yay.
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Well, that isn't the solution that I ever promote, so there
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you go. Trump is a fascinating
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phenomenon, isn't he? He.
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Completely uninteresting to me actually.
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He is a a a a textbook narcissist.
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And yes, the only, the only thing that I think is
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interesting about that is that yes, in a sense, I won't say.
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I mean, I don't want to say outsider because that's going to
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make it sound like, oh, he's an outsider.
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He's you know, but no, I just think he probably isn't that
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kind of World Economic Forum Davos going kind of, you know,
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globalist elitist. He's just a complete narcissist
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who truly only cares about himself and what he can do.
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And to the extent that whatever he can make America great by
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making himself great egg, whatever.
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But that's, that's horrible because he will absolutely has
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zero principle. He will trade away absolutely
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anything whatsoever in order to make the deal, to make himself,
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to enrich himself in some way. And whether that's just to put
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laurels on his crown or whatever it is.
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And we've, I mean, we're living through that right now.
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Hey, make America great again means bombing Iran for Israel.
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Make America great again means spend spending hundreds of
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millions of dollars more with aid to to Ukraine.
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Make America great again means Epstein was a stupid Democrat
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hoax and you're a weakling for believing it.
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This is what make America great again means because all it ever
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meant was make Trump great again.
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And people are starting, maybe hopefully to understand what
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that means. But what you know why?
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Why is someone in South Africa talking to someone in Japan
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about Trump? I mean, who cares?
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Let's stop obsessing about this guy.
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No. Well, what I was wanting to say
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simply is that it was very obvious that Biden wasn't
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pulling the strings. And somehow people think that
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now Trump is pulling the strings, and he has done a great
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job at pulling so many people back into the system.
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You know, now people are welcoming digital ID and
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vaccines and all these things that they were supposedly
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opposed to. You know, I will agree with you.
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And that regard. Yeah.
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And Trump to me is not an interesting person.
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But the phenomenon that is Trump is is interesting at the very
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least because, as you say, you couldn't have written a better
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script for pulling all of the people who were starting to see
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through the illusion and starting to understand.
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Oh, absolutely none of these puppets that are thrown out in
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front of us a are do anything or B are on our side, right.
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We're starting to see through the illusion.
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But then long comes the saviour and put all your faith in this
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person and he'll change everything.
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And now we can all believe in the in the in the system itself
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again. And the worst part of this
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ratchet effect is that the when there's a phenomenon like this
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and it gets someone, you know, a Trump figure gets into, gets
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into power, quote unquote, which means that the the oligarchy is
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using this particular puppet and starts using all of these powers
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and making it all about the executive power of the the
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president. Right.
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Then then it becomes even more important that you vote even
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harder next time because if you don't, you're going to lose it
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all. And then your political enemy is
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going to be in power and they're going to have all these powers.
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How did the how did Biden never get all these powers to do all
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this stuff? We better vote harder next time.
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And yeah, the the crystal clear moment that's embedded in my
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mind of what that exact process was right after the 2024
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selection cycle took place in the US there.
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I remember seeing the very first Joe Rogan podcast.
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After that, I think he was talking to Theo Von or something
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like that. But I remember I'm just saying
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that literally the opening words of the podcast was So it turns
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out voting works. And to me, I think that was the
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takeaway for the oligarchy. Hey guys, look, voting works.
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You got your wish. Yay.
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Now, now we can go bomb Iran and send all the money to Ukraine
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and cover up Epstein. Wait, is that what have you
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voted for? Whatever.
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I just want to do a hell of a segue, but you mentioned Japan
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and you do so much work in stuff that isn't related to yourself.
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I just want to quickly share with my UK column audience your
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background. We never, we never, ever find
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out about who James Corbett is. So who is James and how did you
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get to where you are now? Very good question.
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If people are interested in that, they can go to
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corporatereport.com. In the about section at the top
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they just click about and there is a little write up about me.
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But there's also a entire questions for Corbett.
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I did Who is James Corbett, where I go through my story and
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who I am and where I came from and how I got here.
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But Long story short, I am Canadian and I grew, born,
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raised, spent my whole life in Western Canada.
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Went to the University of Calgary to get my English
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degree, spent a year working around in Calgary and then went
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to Trinity College Dublin for a year.
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Studied there, got my master's degree in Anglo Irish
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literature. Wow, what a what a feather in my
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cap, right? What are you going to do with
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that degree? Well, I guess I'm going to go to
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Japan and teach English for a year.
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I don't know. Sure, it sounded like a good
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idea at the time because I've never been to Asia before.
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So I thought it was just a new place that I could go and spend
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a year doing something, just having fun and maybe earning a
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bit of money to pay off that student loan for Dublin and all
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of that. And somehow or other, you know,
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one year turns into 21. Yeah, I'm in my 21st year here.
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So family, kids, house, all of that.
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And somewhere along the way I fell down the rabbit hole,
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started the corporate report. So that's kind of my general
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background, but if you have any specific questions let me know.
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All I can say is people in the West need to visit Asia to break
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some some preconceived ideas. You obviously love it there.
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Are you? I don't know how to ask this.
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Are you Japanese or are you just a resident?
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I am a permanent resident, but yeah.
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Is there a point at which it would be worth getting
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citizenship? Maybe, but I haven't gotten that
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far yet. It's interesting you say I love
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it here and I don't know. I don't know if I, let's put it
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this way, I do not feel Canadian anymore, but I don't know if I
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feel Japanese. You know, I, I don't know what I
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am. I'm some sort of world traveller
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at this point. There are things to love about
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Japan and there are things that are not lovely, but I imagine
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like absolutely anywhere on earth.
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And yes, I, you know, I'm not going to tell people what to do
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Whatever, do whatever you like. But I think travelling and
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seeing other parts of the world is just generally healthy.
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It's good to know about other places and other people.
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And if one of the, if nothing else, just to discover that
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people are essentially people everywhere you go.
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They're they're humans and you know, they, they act and react
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and interact broadly similarly in a lot of ways.
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Of course, there are big cultural differences, but within
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those cultural differences, you start to see it's the same types
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of people. It's just they manifest their,
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the type of personality they are differently depending on that
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cultural context. So in Japan, one of the big
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differences that you note immediately is that it's there
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is the the saying that's very famous that the nail that sticks
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up will be hammered down. There's sort of a, you know,
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conformity to society here, which in some ways of course is
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horrific, especially for people who cherish their independence
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and their independent spirit like myself, like many other
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people, I'm sure. But in a way there, I mean,
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there's certain advantages that come along with that
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organisation of society. Because in certainly when I grew
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up in Canada, it was everything's more top down and
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hierarchical from obviously school where there is the
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teacher and there are the students.
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And obviously you enter your workplace and there's the boss
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and there's the workers. And that top down structure is,
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is very firmly ingrained. And I think in the Western mind,
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generally in Japan, it feels more like a horizontal
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structure, even within the school system, which I can speak
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to because I did teach here in the school system for several
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years. I, I noticed, for example, I
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mean, there's a lot more student directed work in the classrooms
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here where the teacher will just leave or, you know, be in a
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meeting or something and the students sort of run themselves.
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Generally speaking, the class will be broken down into groups
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and the groups kind of police each other.
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If there's somebody in the group who isn't pulling the weight,
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isn't doing the things, the other students kind of police
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them because, hey, you're going to drag down our group.
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And I think that horizontal mentality is much more ingrained
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in at least in Japan, if not in East Asia generally, which
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again, as I say, has its good sides and its bad sides.
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So one interesting aspect of that for me was during the whole
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scam demic, there were absolutely no mandates, legal
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mandates of any sort. There was no legal lockdown.
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There was no laws about masking, let alone mandates for COVID
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vaccines or anything like that. But there were for, you know,
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most businesses would wait, for example, the boss would put down
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a rule, you know, everyone's got to get jabbed.
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So everyone would get jabbed because you're what are you
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going to do? You've got to your boss said so
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now, so there's incredible sort of pressure from from around
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you, but there's no boots on the ground, you know, men and youth,
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Jack booted thugs dragging people away into prison that it
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didn't operate like that. So for someone like me, who I, I
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don't work in a Japanese company and I don't have a boss.
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So I, I didn't have to jab, I didn't have to mask, I didn't
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have to do any of that nonsense because there was no law, you
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know, no one's making me do anything.
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So there is, there's that aspect to it which, you know, obviously
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for the people who are in that system is terribly bad.
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But for people who are not in that system, hey, it works out
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for me. James, knowing what you know now
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with the with the COVID event, would you go back to 2019 or do
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you think we're in a better place now?
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I guess define better. I guess it depends on what day
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of the week you're asking me. Because sometimes I feel like an
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accelerationist, as in it's better if even if we have to go
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through hell, if more people are aware, oh hey, this is wrong,
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that we're heading the wrong direction.
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There is something totally I don't trust because in 2019, I
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mean think of it. In 2019 you were a crazy
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conspiracy theorist for even mentioning medical martial law.
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I mean what? That would never happen.
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What are you talking about? I literally, I had a podcast in
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2009 on medical martial law and I was a kooky crazy conspiracy
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theorist who would talk about such things, lockdowns and
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enforced mandated vaccines and things.
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What are you talking about? Or Epstein?
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I was talking about that in 2015.
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Were you crazy weirdo political paedophile rings That doesn't
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exist. Well, I guess, I guess we're
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back to that point now with Trump.
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But anyway, but you know, I think broadly speaking, there
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are way more people who are at least aware of these issues
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right now and and certainly less trusting, blindly trusting of
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authority figures. I mean, again, 5-6 years ago,
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who would have thought there'd be so many people who would
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understand that the World Health Organisation was something you
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should actually actively dislike, let alone be aware of
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the existence of who even knew about The Who those many years
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ago. So yes, no, are we in the better
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position or a worse position? At any rate, we're in a more
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knowledgeable position. And I will take that.
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Even if it means that we that people have to go through a
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certain amount of hell to get there, at the very least we are
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at least aware. Hell, hey, we are in an
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information war. We're, we're fighting this,
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whether we know it or not, whether we like it or not, we're
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in this war. So wakey, wakey.
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And let's start get start getting at it.
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More knowledgeable? But Tuesday's Met said that
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around 30%, more or less 1/3 of people at any given time will
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generally be aware of the totalitarianism going on around
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us. And I've noticed that in my own
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circles it seems to be consistent.
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Do you really think that we are more knowledgeable or more
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informed now? Or perhaps is it?
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Is it just being amplified by, I don't know, social media and the
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people we chat to? Well, well, I think 90% of stats
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are pulled out of people's asses.
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So I, I don't believe 30% really.
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Did he do a survey? In what way?
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No, I mean, that's just the kind of number that people throw
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around. And I understand why people
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would say that. Like in my experience, the
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people I talk to, there's, you know, maybe one out of three
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will kind of under, I get that sort of general sense, but at
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the same time, I have to check my own assumptions sometimes.
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For example, I listen to to Ryan Christian on the last American
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Vagabond does great work on the daily wrap up, you know, day
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after day, four or five hour podcasts, just going through
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everything that's happening in the world.
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And he will always make this point over and over and over.
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You know, I think it's a lot more people than you realise are
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actually aware of these things. A lot more people are waking up
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to this. And he keeps saying that over
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and over and over to the point where even I start to think,
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well, it really isn't that many, but I have to question
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assumptions. Why do I think that?
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Yes, of course, in open polite society to complete strangers,
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how many people are talking about, you know, conspiracy
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aware subjects? Probably not that many, but how
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many underneath understand that something is going on?
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Now, there is a difference between people who, what's the
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way to put this? Because there are people who
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know and see and actively understand what is happening
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and, and proceed based on that assumption.
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And then there are people who know and perceive and understand
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that something is happening and completely and totally put that
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away and act like it isn't happening.
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And I think there's, yeah, there's probably a lot of people
23:46
in that category right now because it's, it's almost, I
23:49
mean, I would say it's almost impossible to completely not see
23:52
anything that's happening right now.
23:54
If, for example, the average well meaning, let's put this in
23:58
the, you know, the US Western political terms.
24:02
If some average person on the left could not understand that,
24:07
hey, in the course of two 2 1/2 decades, you've gone from anti
24:12
war, hating the intelligence agencies and the the spook world
24:16
and all of that and and distrusting the the big
24:20
corporations and being concerned about health and environment and
24:25
stuff. To now like singing songs about
24:28
Pfizer and how much you love them and cheering for the CIA
24:32
and FBI operatives who were trying to take down the
24:34
president and all of this stuff. Just Ukraine war.
24:37
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, if you can't see the
24:40
exact inversion of all of these things that's taken place just
24:44
in the past couple of decades, then you're then that's proof
24:48
positive that Orwell was just a mundane documentarian.
24:52
It's just double thinking things like this is not even some weird
24:55
sci fi concept. It's just mundane reality.
24:58
I don't know if I believe that. At any rate, some people I'm
25:00
sure are able to just do the double think and never think
25:03
about it. But I I really do believe Ryan
25:06
Christian is probably right. There's probably a lot more
25:07
people than we suspect who at some level, at some level know
25:12
there is something deeply wrong with this.
25:14
What they do with that is of course a different question.
25:16
But that's again, that's why I'm trying to do things like
25:18
solutions. Watch and talk about what we can
25:20
do about some of these problems. Yes, the COVID event certainly
25:27
was a big wake up call for I think a huge number of people.
25:32
Another very big event obviously was 911.
25:35
However, I didn't wake up after that.
25:38
I just genuinely thought it was a bunch of evil Muslims who flew
25:42
planes into the towers because some old brown guy with a beard
25:46
in a cave with a Nokia 3310 somehow orchestrated it.
25:49
It took me many, many years to even start questioning that.
25:53
I guess it's as Yuri Besmanov said, you you can get taken
25:58
right to the gulag with an and you'll only wake up when there's
26:02
a boot on your head. It is that way.
26:06
Well, look, I, I certainly agree that I think everyone, not
26:09
everyone, but I think most people probably need some way in
26:13
which this personally effects them personally intrudes into
26:17
their life before they really start to question it.
26:19
So, you know, I don't know, just as an example, Jimmy Dore, for
26:24
example, talks about his experience now with suffering
26:27
his own I'll effects from the the COVID vaccines and talking
26:31
about what happened to himself and now realising, oh, that was
26:34
stupid and what were and now is starting to question a lot of
26:38
things. So it's that kind of personal
26:41
experience. Wow, this personal events.
26:42
Scott Adams. Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
26:45
There are many people we could talk to.
26:47
So in my, in my case, so generally when I'm talking about
26:54
my waking up experience, I talked about in late 2006 when I
26:58
moved into a new apartment here in Japan, I got for the first
27:01
time in years, I had an Internet connection in my home.
27:04
And so I started exploring the, the platforms that were
27:08
available then like YouTube, this new thing that just came
27:11
along and Google video and things like this.
27:13
And I was watching documentaries and stuff and I started to get
27:15
the recommendations to this crazy 911 stuff and eventually
27:19
fell down that rabbit hole. But what prepared me for that?
27:23
Was there a personal experience that prepared me for that?
27:26
And there are a couple of things that I could point to, one of
27:29
which was in the early part of 2006.
27:33
So before any of this experience that happened to me, before I
27:36
got that Internet connection and started falling down the
27:38
Internet rabbit hole, I was going back to Canada for it to
27:42
be the best man in my friend's wedding.
27:45
And so I was just going from Japan to Vancouver on to
27:50
Calgary. And in Vancouver, of course, I
27:52
have to clear customs. I'm a Canadian citizen with a
27:55
Canadian passport going into Canada.
27:57
I don't think it's a big deal, right?
27:58
So I'm just kind of waltzing in, doing the usual thing, you know,
28:01
what are you here for? Oh, to be the best man in my
28:03
friends wedding and to watch the Flames win the Stanley Cup.
28:07
Apparently it is not a good idea to joke with customs officials
28:10
because of course the customs official did not seem to think
28:13
that was particularly funny and he made some sort of mark on my
28:16
customs form, handed it back to me and the next thing I know
28:19
there's some security guard coming up to me.
28:21
Excuse me Sir, we need to bring you over here for some special
28:24
screening. Oh great.
28:25
So I get my bag and we go into the special screening room and
28:29
they of course starts taking everything out of my bag.
28:32
My underwear, Everything, of course, takes out the book that
28:37
I was reading, Invisible Monsters by Chuck Poloniak, and
28:41
asks me what do you think about this book?
28:44
And immediately I start thinking, I don't know what
28:48
answer are they trying to get out of me that's going to like
28:51
prove I'm not a terrorist or like, well, how would a
28:54
terrorist answer this question? So I just, I said, I don't know.
28:58
I thought it was kind of interesting at first, but I
29:00
thought it got a bit weak in the second part.
29:02
Like, I don't know, like, what do you, how do you answer a
29:04
question like that? Are they asking for my literary
29:06
appraisal? And then they get my cell phone
29:09
and it's a brand new phone that I've just gotten here.
29:11
It was the pre smartphone age. So it was a pretty trendy cool
29:16
phone from Japan at that time. And so they're looking through
29:19
it, but it was brand new phone. So I only had like 3 pictures on
29:22
it. They asked me to show them the
29:23
pictures by the way. And so I show them like the
29:26
three pictures I have on and they're asking me like who is
29:29
this? Who is this?
29:30
It's my friend. Like I took a picture of my
29:33
friend. Like what is what on earth is
29:35
going on here? And then she pulls out my diary,
29:39
my journal and starts flipping through it and asking can I take
29:43
a photocopy of this? And I just, I, I, I had
29:48
absolutely no idea what was happening.
29:51
I had no idea. Can you, are you asking me?
29:56
I would not like you to, but I don't know what my rights are
29:58
here. I don't know what's going on.
30:00
I don't know what's going to happen if I refuse.
30:02
I just kind of shrugged my shoulders.
30:03
I don't know. Can you?
30:04
And so she goes into another room and comes back a minute
30:08
later. And I assume there's some
30:09
photocopies in my journal somewhere in the battles of the
30:12
Canadian custom service. Anyway, eventually I guess they
30:15
decide I'm not some sort of, you know, bearded Muslim terrorist
30:18
or something and let me go. But what, what the hell was
30:21
that? And definitely that was a moment
30:24
where I started to ponder, hey, you know, what is this War of
30:27
Terror nonsense? Like at first, you know,
30:30
obviously something's kind of crazy, something's weird about
30:32
this. But that was maybe, maybe a
30:35
preparatory stage to me finding out this information several
30:38
months later that goes, oh, oh, I see this is not quite about
30:42
finding those scary bearded Muslim guys.
30:44
This is, oh, this is part of a bigger police state plan.
30:47
So again, did did I need that personal experience in order to
30:51
better understand what was happening?
30:53
Probably. So I'm not going to blame people
30:55
if they don't understand it until it hits them in the face.
30:58
Yeah, everybody's on a different journey.
31:02
That's a that's a good, that's a good way of looking at it.
31:05
So would you consider that to be perhaps your Damascus moment?
31:11
I could, I guess I could say that, but that would, that would
31:13
imply that from that moment my life had changed.
31:16
But I think it took several months for me to process that.
31:19
I knew it was a number of things.
31:20
Another thing that I, I can point to is sitting in Japan
31:25
watching Gandhi, the biopic from 1982 or whatever, Ben Kingsley,
31:30
right? Remember.
31:31
And there's the scene in South Africa where Gandhi is burning
31:37
the papers, doing that protest, where they're burning their
31:40
identification papers because why should the Indians have to
31:42
carry around these identification papers?
31:45
No, we're going to burn them. It's obviously illegal.
31:47
They're doing it right in the front of the police, and the
31:49
police start beating them and beating them to a pulp before
31:52
they arrest them. Right.
31:53
And I'm sitting here watching this unfold and thinking, huh?
31:58
So as a foreign resident here in Japan, I am obligated by law to
32:03
carry around my foreign resident card at all times, to be
32:06
presentable to any police officer, whoever asks me for it.
32:10
And it had never occurred to me till that moment that, hey,
32:14
maybe this is something I shouldn't be comfortable with.
32:16
Like, here's people, you know, not even a century before who
32:20
are literally willing to be beaten to a bloody pulp and
32:22
thrown in prison burning their cards in these protests.
32:26
And here I am with a card in my pocket, not even thinking about
32:29
why that. And that certainly got me
32:31
thinking of, hey, how have we as a human species been conditioned
32:36
over the course of a few generations, domesticated into
32:39
being perfectly fine with things that would have absolutely
32:42
galled our forefathers? It maybe there's something going
32:46
on here. Maybe I should think about this.
32:47
So there's a lot of moments like that that I could point to that
32:50
could be potential Damascus moments.
32:54
I do think that incident that you spoke about, I mean, that's
32:57
part of the South African legacy of apartheid with carrying
33:01
around an Idi do think, and this is just my own speculation as
33:06
somebody who lives here. It played a very big role, I
33:11
think in why S Africans at large completely rejected the vaccine
33:16
and the vaccine passport idea because historically walking
33:20
around with the passport was was something that was imposed by
33:23
the state. And so I think in a in a weird
33:26
kind of paradox, it it came back to bite the state in.
33:30
And yet, and yet in Germany, for example, you know the story of
33:36
and for whatever reason, I'm blanking on his name, but you
33:38
know of the writer who wrote that book about the new, the new
33:43
Reich, or whatever he called it, it was the picture of the mask
33:46
with the faint. Outline of the swastika.
33:50
You know. Yes, yeah, yeah, he's got a,
33:54
he's got a great sub stack. I can't remember his name at the
33:56
moment, but anyway. He was a major.
33:58
What's his name? Yes, and he's been fighting with
34:01
the German authorities ever since.
34:02
Exactly. Yes.
34:03
And of course, yeah, they were. He's been fighting, I think.
34:07
Did he lose that case at any rate?
34:09
Yeah. They, they of course, prosecuted
34:11
him for it, for daring, daring to compare what happened in Nazi
34:16
Germany to this. Sharing your COVID papers, How
34:19
dare you make that comparison? Well, so I don't know.
34:23
It's great to hear that in South Africa people realised and
34:26
learned from history. But in some places, you're not
34:29
allowed to learn from history. You mentioned earlier about the
34:35
hierarchy and the order that that you've discovered in Japan
34:40
and, and how it has its pros and it's cons.
34:42
And as somebody lives in the African continent, it's
34:45
something I can't relate to. We don't understand that kind of
34:48
thing. It's just it's chaos in in so
34:50
many ways here. But within that chaos there
34:53
comes a sense of freedom. And I've often wondered whether
34:56
or not that is a more desirable future, you know, as a way to
35:02
buffer, to become more anti fragile with the sort of
35:06
technocratic Agenda 2030 type structures that are looming.
35:13
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have thought about this quite
35:15
a bit. So I have a new book called
35:22
Reportage Essays on the New World Order.
35:25
One of the essays in here is a book, an essay specifically
35:29
about spontaneous order, because I think it is incredibly
35:32
important for us to understand that the type of order that
35:37
people think of when they hear the word order is almost
35:40
invariably that type of top down hierarchical order.
35:44
There is a boss or a leader or someone, some central planner
35:48
who is giving orders to underlings and they give orders
35:51
to their underlings, etcetera. There's some sort of top down
35:54
way and that is the only way that we can rent order from this
35:58
chaos of the world, chaos of existence, all of these people
36:01
Willy nilly doing their own things.
36:03
How terrible, terrible freedom. We must bring order to the
36:06
freedom. But I think it's much to our
36:10
detriment and perhaps not coincidental that we do not
36:14
reflect on and do not think about the other type of order
36:17
that exists and so obviously exists when you start to think
36:20
about it, which is spontaneous order.
36:23
So there are people who see millions or billions of human
36:27
beings going about doing their own daily things and, you know,
36:30
without someone telling them what to do and think, Oh my God,
36:33
how can this possibly? And yet somehow all of these
36:38
people somehow tend to form these structures and, and
36:42
cooperate and work on various things and sometimes fight,
36:45
Sure. And all of these things.
36:47
But somehow human, humanity has developed through this.
36:50
You know, thousands of years ago, there may not have been
36:53
that hierarchical order that existed to rend order from the
36:57
chaos. It was just people doing things.
36:59
And now we've become used to this idea that there must be the
37:02
single leader who tells us what to do.
37:05
And we see this in every aspect of our lives except for a few.
37:09
And for example, no one is telling you you well, hopefully
37:14
no one is telling you who you must marry.
37:17
No one is telling you what what clothes you must wear today.
37:20
No one is telling you how you must cut your hair.
37:22
No one is telling you what foods you must buy today.
37:25
Unless you live in whatever some horribly oppressive, brutal
37:30
total tyranny state in some North Korea or something.
37:32
But for people who are not being told all these things, how, how
37:36
can we let all these people just make all these important choices
37:39
about their life for themselves? Can't they think of the, the
37:42
overall plan for the, the, the order of the state?
37:45
And when you really drill down on the assumptions about order
37:50
and how order comes about, you start to realise that not only
37:54
is central planning and a central view of 1 particular
37:57
ruler who's going to tell everyone how to live their
37:59
lives. Not only is it stupid, it's
38:01
actually truly impossible and for people to get get their head
38:05
around that, I'll suggest two sources, one of which is
38:07
probably my favourite essay of all time and my listeners would
38:11
be sick to death of hearing about it, but I love it.
38:13
It's called I Pencil. It was by Leonard Reed and it
38:16
was about how an absolutely mundane everyday object like a
38:21
pencil is actually a miracle. And how on earth can this pencil
38:27
be created? It's mind boggling when you
38:30
start to think of all the constituent materials that went
38:33
into this pencil and how they were collected from disparate
38:35
parts of the world and how they were all shipped to some
38:38
location and processed in various ways, kiln dried and
38:42
waxed and vulcanised and all of these things and then brought to
38:45
a factory where they're assembled into this pencil.
38:48
It is absolutely miraculous. And there isn't a single person
38:52
on the entire planet who could detail every single part of
38:56
every single person who was involved in collecting on and
39:00
assembling all this material. And all the people who were
39:02
helping all of those people who are making their clothes and,
39:05
and, and making their their meals and growing their food and
39:09
all of this. It's almost like there's this
39:11
incredibly vast worldwide span of human connection, which makes
39:16
all of these totally boring everyday objects into reality.
39:21
Wow, how does this exist? It's because of all of this
39:24
chain of connection. And you know what?
39:26
Not only is there no one telling every single person in the world
39:29
how to live their lives so that we can make pencils, it would be
39:33
impossible. There is no one who can direct
39:35
all of that human effort into that one object.
39:38
And once we really wrap our head around that, I think we'll truly
39:41
have a different understanding of that.
39:43
I said I'd give you 2 sources. 1 is that eye pencil essay.
39:46
The other is a podcast I did a little while ago on an
39:49
announcement from the Ministry of Toothbrushes.
39:52
And if that sounds humorous, I hope it is, because it's stupid
39:56
and ridiculous and actually based on something that really
39:59
happened in the Soviet Union, where the technocrats were truly
40:02
trying to order every aspect of people's lives down to what
40:07
colour toothbrushes, brushes and how many shall we produce this
40:11
year? What will satisfy the plebs?
40:14
It's ridiculous on its face and worthy of being laughed at.
40:18
But for some reason. We're never taught about
40:20
spontaneous order, we're only taught about top down
40:22
hierarchical order. I think that's a very, very good
40:26
point. Spontaneous order.
40:29
You're right, I almost never hear anybody talking about that.
40:34
Why? Why?
40:37
And you know what the funniest part is?
40:39
When you bring it to people's attention, some people get very
40:42
defensive about it. Oh, yeah.
40:44
But you, you need to have order at times, and you need the
40:47
person who's going to tell people what to do.
40:49
There are people who really viscerally react strongly
40:53
against the idea that human freedom and people making their
40:56
own choices can actually lead to anything good.
41:01
And I don't know, I don't want to start psychologizing people,
41:03
but I think, you know, what happened to you in your
41:05
childhood that you, you turned into this type of person.
41:08
I think something must have, you know, there must be some trauma
41:10
that you're working through right now.
41:13
CJ Hopkins. Ping pong.
41:16
Yeah, you got it. Absolutely.
41:17
CJ Hopkins. Now can you remember the name of
41:19
the book? No.
41:24
Anyway people can look it up. I'm so sorry, CJ, if you happen
41:28
to be listening to this, you know, James, the covert event, I
41:38
was so interesting in so many ways.
41:40
I am very grateful for it because I, I realised how many
41:45
people I probably don't actually want to be associated with
41:49
anymore friends, you know, and, and how many new friends I've
41:52
gained as a result. You know, it was a, it was a
41:57
very sore filtering experience for I think a lot of people
42:00
though, a. What experience?
42:04
Filtering it filtered. Filtering filtered a lot of
42:07
things and people and stuff. Yeah, I have made this
42:12
observation too, that at any rate, it is sort of a big
42:17
sorting event and you got to see who was on your side and who was
42:22
not. And that doesn't even mean
42:24
necessarily people who agree with you and everything that you
42:27
believed about what happened and what didn't happen and
42:29
everything, but just people who would allow you to live your
42:33
life the way you saw fit. Like, OK, I don't agree with
42:37
you, but whatever. If you're not going to wear the
42:38
mask, if you're not going to take the jab, that's your
42:40
decision. I, I could live with that in the
42:43
same way. I mean, for example, I was
42:45
making the point at the time, it's not like I think there
42:48
should be government mandates that no one should be allowed to
42:52
wear a mask or no one should be allowed to take this vaccine.
42:56
No, because the very power for a government to dictate that no
43:00
one should do this thing is the very power that a government can
43:03
use to dictate that everyone should do this thing.
43:05
So I mean, it's it's no, I don't want them involved in this
43:08
decision at all. I just, yeah, if you're going to
43:10
wear the mask or whatever, take the jab, OK, That's your
43:14
decision. I don't think you should.
43:15
Here's why I don't think you should.
43:16
But I'm not going to tell you what to do with your life.
43:19
So that was what really was interesting to me is, yeah, to
43:22
see the businesses or the people who are going to stick, stick up
43:26
for you and allow you to make your decisions and the people
43:28
who aren't. And at any rate, it certainly
43:30
did show us who who some of our friends really are.
43:35
How much of all of this that's going on in the world do you
43:39
think is by design and how much of it is by emergence?
43:46
Excellent question. In a way it almost gets
43:48
metaphysical at some level. I mean, is there some grand
43:51
divine plan for all of this or there are there certain things
43:55
that just as you say, emerge from human activity in a way
44:00
that so, for example, one way that I could approach this is
44:03
that I think there is a certain technological progression to the
44:09
development of events as we see them.
44:12
And I say that advisedly because, for example, I, I've
44:15
done a, a deep dive on the media matrix where I was looking at
44:19
the development of the history of mass media and mass media
44:22
technologies and how that has shaped human society.
44:25
And it's not like I think the Gutenberg press or anything was
44:29
a, was a well, actually, it literally was a conspiracy for
44:32
people who don't know about it. And if people want to hear about
44:34
that, they can hear about that in Part 1 of my media matrix
44:36
series. But but I don't mean it in the
44:38
sense like it was some sort of grand, you know, Free Masonic
44:42
plot or whatever. To a certain extent, it's just
44:45
techno technological processes brought about this thing which
44:49
utterly transformed our world and our place in the world and
44:53
human society and what that means and the concept of the
44:56
nation state and the Renaissance and the Reformation and all of
44:58
these things that came out as a result of that, good and bad.
45:04
And I think there are a number of things like that, a number of
45:07
technological things that add up to.
45:10
And so the question, as he always is, what do we do with
45:14
these technologies and how do we use them?
45:16
But to certain extent, the technologies use us and there is
45:19
a certain logic to certain technologies that point us in a
45:21
certain direction. And I, I'm, I, I don't know how
45:28
convinced I am, but I think there is something compelling in
45:30
the, in the argument that some people throw out that we're,
45:33
we're simply the organic substrate that is bootstrapping
45:38
the silicon artificial intelligence of the future.
45:41
And that's what's going to go out and propagate the, you know,
45:44
the universe. And we're just going to whatever
45:47
go extinct or not, or who knows, who cares?
45:49
We're just bootstrapping the next form of intelligence.
45:52
And to a certain extent, I, I don't think that's what we're
45:55
doing. But that is, that is the way
45:57
that humanity is acting. We are developing these
46:00
technologies and putting ourselves more and more and more
46:03
and more into these technologies at this point, putting into
46:07
technologies wearables and stuff.
46:09
But eventually we know it's going, you know, with the brain
46:12
chips and what have you. And to what extent is that going
46:15
to? I mean, anyway, so the original
46:18
question, yeah, is this all part of some conspiracy or is it an
46:22
emergent developing thing? I think there's there's an
46:25
admixture of that because there is clearly an oligarchical
46:27
group, as I say that clearly is trying to steer events.
46:31
But I do not think that there is a script that every single event
46:37
is scripted out. And here is how you are going to
46:40
react to this. And here is how you are going to
46:42
react to this and you're going to do this.
46:43
Yes, Sir. I don't think that's how it
46:46
operates. But for example, how can that
46:51
operate? I mean, let's put it this way.
46:53
Yeah. OK, here's a stupid example, but
46:55
one that, you know, will be interesting to some.
46:59
I, I'm a Beatles fan, whatever. I think they made good music.
47:03
Or did they write their music? Maybe it was all Theodor Adorno,
47:08
who managed to write in four different styles and keep those
47:11
styles separate. And you can identify certain
47:13
things that Paul did in 1963 that he did again in 1970, that
47:17
he did again in 1987. Oh, wait, no, Paul's dead.
47:20
I forgot about. Anyway, there's all sorts of
47:22
conspiracies that swirl around The Beatles.
47:24
But of course, the big one is, well, clearly they were a
47:26
construct that was designed to tear down the fabric of Western
47:29
society and all of that, blah, blah, blah.
47:31
OK, to a certain extent, I'm sympathetic to that.
47:34
That idea and the idea that just generally musicians and pop
47:37
music and rock groups and whatever can be used as
47:40
battering Rams against Western civilization, Sure, I agree.
47:43
But I don't think that means that these people are born and
47:47
bred and raised to be these people in this plot.
47:51
No, you take someone who's young and vivacious and clearly has
47:55
some energy and has some talent, and you recruit them one way or
47:59
another. You get them into your circle,
48:01
you get them, you direct them. You, you, you encourage certain
48:06
cultural trends, you discourage other cultural trends.
48:08
You give the, the sort of the, the, the, the, the golden star
48:12
to the people who do the things that you want and make all the
48:14
gang signs that you want them to make and all of that.
48:17
And they, they just start to adopt it.
48:19
They know, oh, OK, if I do this, I'll make it in the industry.
48:22
And by that you can shape the direction of say, popular music
48:26
or culture, culture, entertainment in general.
48:30
It doesn't. So is there a script that
48:33
everyone is being given and you must do this and you must do
48:36
this and you must do this? I don't think so.
48:38
I think people are sort of steered and directed in certain
48:40
directions in the same way. Does that mean that every single
48:44
event that ever happens, every terrorist event or whatever is,
48:47
is a false flag that's been planned out and direct?
48:49
No, not necessarily, but certainly any event can be used
48:54
as, hey, this is a good opportunity for us to present
48:57
the the problem, the crisis, to exacerbate the problem so that
49:00
people cry out for a solution and we just happen to have a
49:02
solution. And it's at the end of the day,
49:05
it's ultimately about the the narrative or the, the narrative
49:08
construct, the ideology of the people who are in positions of
49:12
power. If they are only thinking
49:13
towards what will increase and centralised power more in their
49:17
own hands or increase their wealth or whatever their goal
49:19
may be, then that's everything they offer is going to look like
49:22
that. No matter what happens, no
49:24
matter what happens, if it's a wonderful, beautiful, sunny,
49:27
happy day and everyone's happy, then hey guys, why don't we make
49:30
it even better? We'll live in these 15 minute
49:32
cities. If it's a terrible, Oh my God,
49:35
it's a it's a stormy day. Oh, the weather gods are angry.
49:38
You better live in these 15 minute cities so that we can
49:40
appease the weather gods if there's an explosion and a
49:42
terrorist event and whatever, Oh my God, it's so scary out there.
49:46
We better live in these 15 minute cities so we can organise
49:48
society and make sure that these terrorist events don't happen
49:51
again. Whatever happens, you can find a
49:53
way to push your agenda. And I think that's generally
49:56
speaking how the conspiracy tends to work.
49:59
So yes, there's an admixture, there is conspiracy, there is
50:02
emergent properties that come from just random events as well
50:05
as technological progression. I know it's a lot to put in
50:09
there, but I think there's, I mean, it's a complicated
50:11
question. You probably always get this
50:14
question, but I'm going to ask it anyway because it will no
50:17
doubt come up after this conversation.
50:19
But who is the oligarchy? You know, obviously that's the
50:26
that's the question. Let me give you a multiple
50:27
choice. Let me give you a multiple
50:28
choice. Is it the the Committee of 300?
50:33
Is it the Black Nobility? Is it the Jews, is it the
50:40
Jesuits? Or is it a mixture of people
50:43
that keeps changing throughout time?
50:47
Can I go with all of the above? I mean, again, yes.
50:52
So people want to narrow it down to the one identifiable.
50:56
It's this one clique, it's this one group.
50:58
And the reason, of course they want to do this because of all
51:02
the Hollywood conditioning and programming they've had all
51:04
their lives. Here is the big epic battle
51:06
scene in the movie. There's here's the good guys,
51:09
there's the bad guys, there's the big battle.
51:11
You know, it's a lot of horrible bloodshed and violence.
51:14
It's terrible and tragic. But at the end of the day, you
51:16
know, the good guy cuts off the head of the the, the king and
51:20
wins the the battle. Yay, now we're fine, right?
51:23
You can find that one identifiable clique and get rid
51:26
of it and all. Problem solved.
51:29
To me it's it's just another side of the same coin as the one
51:32
white hat will swoop in and save us all and we just have to kill
51:35
that one group or get rid of that one group and everything.
51:38
No, no. So to me the question itself is
51:42
wrong. It isn't who is at the top of
51:44
the oligarchy, it is what is at the top of the oligarchy and the
51:47
what is an ideology. It is the concept.
51:51
It is the idea of centralised top down power.
51:56
When I say like, here's the thing that really gets to me is
51:59
that I say it's it's globalist. I use that term globalist and
52:04
people, you know, some people think, oh, that's a code word.
52:07
And what you really mean is you mean the Jews or what you really
52:10
mean is you mean the lizard people or you mean the Vatican
52:12
or whatever it is, whatever their particular.
52:15
No, no, I mean the globalist. I mean people whose ideology is
52:19
that we need a global centralised power structure and
52:22
they come from very different walks of life.
52:24
And there are many different people in that globalist elite
52:27
cliques that are there for their own separate reasons.
52:32
And some of them surely are religiously motivated,
52:35
ethnically motivated, monetarily motivated.
52:39
There are all sorts of reasons for people to do that, but
52:41
they're all working towards a similar goal.
52:46
And I mean that not in the sense that the end result of all of
52:49
these different people is necessarily aiming at the same
52:51
thing, but they're all aiming at increasing power for themselves
52:54
and their their oligarchical pals.
52:57
And that is the game. And so I am, I am exactly
53:01
opposed to that. I am on the other side of that.
53:04
I think we should decentralise power as much as possible.
53:07
I do not want to centralised power.
53:09
I do not want power for myself or anyone else to wield over me.
53:13
I think everyone should, to the extent possible, live lives of
53:17
voluntary free paddled human association.
53:20
I'm a free adult human being. I get to decide what to do with
53:23
my life. Why would you interfere with
53:25
that? What right do you have to
53:27
interfere with that? So that's, that's my ideal and
53:30
the way for see again, the idea is if you can find the one
53:34
person at the top of the oligarchy or the one group, then
53:37
you fight them and you defeat them and good, game over, we
53:40
win. But no, I think whoever, if the
53:43
even if there was a single person or a single group at the
53:46
top of the oligarchy, you get rid of them.
53:48
There's a million people who would clamour to jump into that
53:52
vacated seat of power because they want the power.
53:55
The power, the ideology of the power is the problem.
53:59
So the way to defeat that is not violent revolution, fighting,
54:03
bloodshed. It is not that the the real
54:07
thing that we can do is to withdraw ourselves from their
54:10
systems of control, to withdraw our participation, because it is
54:14
our labour, it is our time, our blood, our sweat, our resources,
54:18
our energy that powers this beast system.
54:22
And until we realise that, until we start directing these time
54:25
and energy and resources and attention in areas that we want
54:29
to build up the things that we want, we have the power.
54:33
And until we truly believe that we're going to look for the
54:36
white hat or we're going to look for the people at the top of the
54:39
oligarchy so we can kill them and save the day, I just don't
54:42
think that's the way forward. So I'm I'm doing everything I
54:45
can to try to tell people, no, we have to start directing our
54:48
attention at what we want, not at what we don't want, at what
54:52
we actually want. So it's back to that question,
54:55
that problem that you were bringing up earlier.
54:57
Everyone loves to look at the dooms to doom scroll and look at
55:01
the, you know, the fear porn. Not many people are as
55:04
interested in solutions. So.
55:06
I'm trying to change that. Yeah, yeah, I agree with what
55:09
you're saying. The decentralisation aspect
55:11
particularly. So for example, during the COVID
55:14
event, my wife and I obviously didn't get jabbed.
55:17
We didn't get a single PCR test. And in fact, we didn't even want
55:21
to legitimise the system by getting a fake vaccine passport.
55:26
Nothing like nothing at all. We just simply did not
55:29
acknowledge any of it. And if it meant that we couldn't
55:31
travel internationally, well, then so be it.
55:34
Thankfully that didn't play out, but that's what I'm saying to
55:39
you is that I'm agreeing with the decentralisation thing.
55:42
It is a solution. It is based on what we can
55:46
ourselves do. Yeah.
55:49
And look, I get why people are not not happy with that answer
55:52
because it isn't the complete answer to everything.
55:55
You taking your power back into your own hands and deciding
55:58
things for your life is great. But yeah, it's certainly not
56:00
going to solve all problems. And it just because you declare
56:03
that I'm an independent free human being being doesn't mean
56:06
that Jack booted thugs of the police state aren't going to
56:08
come down and knock and knock down your door and take you to a
56:11
cage. Maybe they will.
56:13
But the one thing that they can't do is imprison you in your
56:17
mind to take you and and to make you into a slave or a subjected
56:22
being. You do that yourself.
56:24
Either you know and claim your individual sovereignty or you
56:27
give it up or some admixture of the two.
56:30
But it's your decision. And that's why the ending of
56:34
1984 is so soul crushing, because in the end, he learned
56:39
to love Big Brother. It wasn't.
56:42
It wasn't even that they they took him and caged him and
56:45
tortured him in the room, one on one and all that.
56:46
No, it's that at the end he was happy.
56:49
He loved Big Brother. Are we coming in for the final
56:54
lap? More or less, James and I like
56:58
you. Sorry I comma like you also
57:03
enjoy solutions and and Silver Linings just as as as a way of
57:10
of bringing everything to a positive ending.
57:12
Give me some Nuggets of advice, of wisdom, some solutions.
57:17
Sure, let's do it so I could go through some, if not even
57:20
greatest hits, at least things that stick out in my mind as to
57:24
solutions that I've talked about before.
57:26
Some incredibly simple, absolutely mundane things that
57:30
people wouldn't get think twice about.
57:32
But here's an idea. When some soulless big tech
57:36
corporation is asking you for personal data that they don't
57:40
need, don't give them their your real data.
57:43
It sounds so absolutely basically stupid, but I can't
57:46
even remember what it was. I was signing up for some
57:48
service the other day and they were asking my birth date, you
57:51
know, to determine I'm over age 18.
57:52
So of course I'm going to say I was born in 19 O 6.
57:55
What? What do you say?
57:57
Of course, Yeah, whatever, who cares?
57:59
You don't have any need to know this data, so don't give it to
58:01
them. Again, that's such a stupidly
58:03
simple thing, but it's actually important, and perhaps
58:06
increasingly important as they are snarfing up all possible
58:09
data in the universe. Let's feed as much junk data
58:12
into their AI monstrosity garbage as we can.
58:16
But that's, again, it can be stupidly simple things like
58:19
that, or it could be incredibly complex things.
58:21
Of course, I have talked about the concept of building
58:24
community, which can be an incredibly daunting and
58:27
incredibly difficult process. But there are different steps
58:30
that you can take towards doing that.
58:31
And one step would be, for example, to start something
58:34
small. For example, I've talked about
58:36
freedom cells before. It's a concept of finding a
58:39
group of eight people in some sort of physical proximity to
58:44
you that you could form a group with that you could then start
58:48
to teach each other, for example, or help each other on
58:51
various basic things like, hey, someone needs, someone needs
58:55
help, you know, raising their barn or the 21st century
58:58
equivalent of that. You know, we're all going to
59:01
chip in and help them on that. And it starts from there.
59:04
And you start then to connect to other groups who are doing the
59:06
same thing and hopefully building community that way.
59:10
I've talked about the monetary problem because of course, yeah,
59:13
it's great to talk about how you're going to, you know,
59:15
change the world and take power back into your own hand.
59:17
But if you're using the dollars or yen or pesos or whatever that
59:21
the government is the central banks are giving to you, then in
59:24
some way or another you're still a slave to their system.
59:27
So how else can you do it? Well, there's lots of different
59:30
ways. There isn't one or two different
59:31
ways. There's many different ways.
59:33
So I had a whole podcast about survival currency on all the
59:36
different ideas of from precious metals to cryptos to let's and
59:40
exchange systems, etcetera. Yeah, there's lots of things
59:43
that people doing out there on the monetary side of it.
59:46
Or hey, how about, OK, yes, these dollars or pesos or yen or
59:51
whatever they are are changed to the system, but at least they're
59:55
not CBDC's. So while you can, you better
59:57
start using cash as much as you possibly can with people who
1:00:00
will accept it. And hey, the last several years
1:00:03
have been a filtering event in the number of ways, one of which
1:00:06
is now you know, which businesses might potentially be
1:00:08
on your side on this that aren't going to go into the cashless
1:00:11
society nightmare and ask you to, you know, scan and make sure
1:00:14
that you're up to date with your 18th booster or whatever in
1:00:17
order to buy goods and services from them.
1:00:20
So now you can start thinking about that.
1:00:22
And OK, I'm going to, I'm going to transact with this, this
1:00:24
person. Etcetera, etcetera.
1:00:27
There's there's a million different things that people can
1:00:29
be doing. But really it's about, as I say,
1:00:32
it's about the mindset. Once you start looking for
1:00:35
solutions, suddenly they're everywhere.
1:00:37
It's funny how that works. Just quickly James, what search
1:00:40
engine do you use? I use every search engine.
1:00:46
I do not subscribe to anyone search engine at this point.
1:00:52
In the past I've talked about Scroogle was this one Google
1:00:57
scraper that worked at some point, you know, 15 years ago or
1:01:01
something And I did a video about it.
1:01:02
Hey guys, this is a way it doesn't give any of your data to
1:01:05
Google. It goes through a proxy to get
1:01:07
OK, great. That worked for a while until it
1:01:09
didn't. I've talked about start page,
1:01:11
which for a time was this privacy, a heavy search engine.
1:01:15
And I just talked to Katherine Albrecht about it, etcetera,
1:01:18
etcetera. But then they turned into
1:01:19
essentially Google Part 2 and I don't even know what they're
1:01:22
doing anymore. At some point there, you know,
1:01:24
DuckDuckGo seems like a viable alternative, but they've done
1:01:27
various things that make me question that over the years.
1:01:30
I, I use Brave browser sometimes and the search in Brave browser
1:01:36
is the Brave search, which is generally pretty useless.
1:01:41
You know what, sometimes I will take a certain phrase, put it in
1:01:45
quotation mark. So it's looking for that exact,
1:01:48
those exact words in that exact order, which I know exists in
1:01:52
this article over here somewhere.
1:01:54
I'll put it in the search term into say Brave, can't find it,
1:01:59
put it in DuckDuckGo, can't find it, put it in Google, there it
1:02:02
is. So whatever magic sauce that the
1:02:06
NSA has still is at times can be useful.
1:02:11
So anyway, Long story short, I don't put my faith in any of
1:02:15
these individual search engines. I know there are things like
1:02:20
Seer X and others that you can use to basically search every
1:02:23
search engine and customise your search in a million ways, but
1:02:28
yeah, there's nothing out there that I'm impressed with at this
1:02:31
point. And then quickie just adding to
1:02:35
that LLMS use any. As in, do I use them?
1:02:43
Certainly not, no. I was.
1:02:45
So when ChatGPT 3 came out and everyone was talking about it,
1:02:49
everyone and their dog, I, I decided I was going to do an
1:02:51
article about it. And I thought, oh, wouldn't it
1:02:54
be funny? I'll ask ChatGPT 3 to write an
1:02:57
article in the style of James Corbett, right?
1:02:59
And see it and see and put it out there as if it's me and just
1:03:02
see if any of my audience calls me out on it or if they all
1:03:05
believe it. And I thought that would be a
1:03:06
funny thing. Anyway, that was a funny thing
1:03:08
to think about a few years ago, but back before everyone, you
1:03:11
know, was trying that kind of thing.
1:03:13
So I went, so I'm like, OK, what's this ChatGPT thing?
1:03:16
And so I went to go and use it and found out.
1:03:18
Oh, I have to sign up for some account and I have to give them
1:03:21
my phone number and I was just instantly Nope, not going
1:03:25
anywhere near that with a 10 foot pole, never Nope, Nope,
1:03:28
Nope. So I have never used ChatGPT,
1:03:30
I've never used any LLM. I have used AI Image Creator
1:03:37
called Firefly, which is part of the Adobe suite.
1:03:40
And I do not endorse Adobe. I think Adobe is the devil.
1:03:44
But I do use Adobe products. And there was a time when my
1:03:49
graphics guy, my video editor, Brock W there in Vietnam, he was
1:03:53
not available. I needed this thumbnail with a
1:03:55
specific image. So I'm like, let's see what
1:03:57
happens. And I typed it in and there's
1:03:59
more or less the image I was looking for.
1:04:03
I get why people use it. It is certainly a handy tool, is
1:04:06
it not? But nothing goodwill come from
1:04:09
this. I really, really, genuinely,
1:04:12
deeply in my bones think that we are what, what did Elon say?
1:04:17
Summoning the demon, I believe was his exact term.
1:04:20
And I think he's probably, you know, I don't think he's right
1:04:22
about a lot, but I think he's right about that.
1:04:25
It's it sounds a bit silly, but James, how can I follow your
1:04:29
work? It is not silly because you
1:04:33
would be surprised how few people actually know the answer.
1:04:36
There is one right answer to this.
1:04:37
The right answer is corbettreport.com.
1:04:39
corbettreport.com. Yeah, I'm on Rumble.
1:04:45
I'm on Bit Shoot, I'm on Odyssey.
1:04:48
I was on Rockfin. They kicked me off.
1:04:49
I don't know. I have no idea what's going on
1:04:51
over there. I was on YouTube for many years.
1:04:55
They kicked me off because of the scam Demic, of course.
1:04:58
And suddenly a couple months ago, I'm back.
1:05:02
Why? I don't know.
1:05:03
I I filed an appeal because I was talking to Ricky Verandas on
1:05:07
the ripple effect. He said, I just filed an appeal
1:05:09
for my YouTube channel and they just gave it back.
1:05:12
And I thought, oh, that wouldn't happen.
1:05:14
So I filed the appeal. I got this email back a couple
1:05:17
hours later. We're very sorry to have caused
1:05:19
you inconvenience. You did not break the community
1:05:21
guidelines. Here's your channel.
1:05:23
What the hell does that mean? I don't know.
1:05:26
But at any rate, I have been using YouTube for many years to
1:05:29
reach into the matrix, to pull people out of the Matrix.
1:05:32
At what point does that become a losing proposition?
1:05:35
I don't know, but there I am again.
1:05:37
But anyway, that's just a case in point because when I got back
1:05:40
on YouTube, everyone has so many people.
1:05:42
Wow, you're back. Oh, wow.
1:05:44
I Corbett, I never thought I'd see you again.
1:05:46
I didn't know. I thought you'd retired.
1:05:49
I thought you were dead. Nope.
1:05:50
I've been doing my same work absolutely in the same way all
1:05:53
this time. It's just you didn't see me
1:05:54
because you were trying to follow me on a platform that is
1:05:57
going to censor. So go to corbettreport.com.
1:06:01
At some point they will start coming after the domain name
1:06:04
servers and start, you know, stopping you from getting to my
1:06:08
servers. But until that happens, I think
1:06:10
that's the best place to go. James Corbett, the OG Thank you
1:06:15
for joining me in the trenches. Thank you for being here and
1:06:19
thank you for doing what you do.