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- 0:00Murphy, Jack. How do you feel about Insta
- 0:01travel? Oh fuck it.
- 0:03Monetize it $5 apiece. Get our second billion.
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- 1:41How are you doing? Thanks for having me, George.
- 1:43Dookie, wookie, dookie, you're the Co host.
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- 2:10So I'm I'm doing daddy jobs and Mama jobs.
- 2:13He, you, you texted me the other day and I felt the tears like my
- 2:20phone got wet. I don't know if that was me, I
- 2:23think you might have just been crossing streams again.
- 2:25Well, Speaking of crossing streams, we have a very special
- 2:28guest here today. Sometimes here in Open Comms
- 2:29Radio we do have special guests. And tonight's guest is indeed
- 2:34someone you may know, host of The Captain's Table, the Astro
- 2:38Historian Paul Shelley of the Astropub.
- 2:43Astropub, thanks for coming on open dot coms radio.
- 2:46I don't know how I feel about being being introduced as the
- 2:49crossing of streams. I've heard that there's that's
- 2:50when bad things happen, especially when splashback.
- 2:53Yeah, but sometimes you have to cross the streams in order to to
- 2:56defeat the big the big bad. Yeah, I mean, but I mean, isn't,
- 2:59isn't that kind of like like a like a very unhygienic way of
- 3:03defeating the big bad, you having to cross the streams?
- 3:06I mean, Oh my God, guys. Get tested it's it's free.
- 3:10Hold on a second, guys. Hold on.
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- 3:16Yeah. Is he?
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- 3:23We got it. We got it this time.
- 3:26We got meme dogs in chat. He's his very professional
- 3:28black, Wicked says Class act. This is the behind the scenes,
- 3:33OK, a lot of a lot of big Youtubers, they would, they
- 3:36would, you'd have to be you'd have to be like a double, triple
- 3:39Patreon in order to get like the, you know, the, the, the
- 3:43cutting room floor stuff. You have no idea how many things
- 3:46have gone wrong in the captain's table in like 10 years of me
- 3:49doing the captain's table like this is nothing I have.
- 3:51I've had computers literally light on fire in the in the
- 3:54waiting room or so it's like you have active fire in your room.
- 3:58Get off the stream or get off the prepare and get them and
- 4:00take care of the fire please. Yeah, honestly, our, our
- 4:06listeners, they don't care, you know?
- 4:09These are These are the. People who would stay bleed at
- 4:11night. 2:00 AM watching cartoon. Network.
- 4:13Oh man, those were the days. These.
- 4:16Were the days, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 4:20Anyway, this is Open Comms Radio, your star assistant
- 4:22calling show, and I'm here with the Astropub, The Astropub of
- 4:26Astro Historian, host of the Captain's Table Astropub.
- 4:30How you? Doing I'm good, thank good I my,
- 4:33my day job as a teacher. And so we've got, I've got about
- 4:37two weeks until school's over with.
- 4:39So I'm in that, that stage of like the, the good students are
- 4:44all like, yeah, I'm done, I'm good.
- 4:45I've got all my things done and my bad students are like, I am
- 4:48very far behind. So I, I have a combination of
- 4:51some classes, I'm just doing nothing.
- 4:53And some classes are like, like, Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr.
- 4:57Mr. Mr. Mr. Mr. like, yeah, 'cause I teach seniors.
- 5:00So a lot of them are like, I gotta go to college.
- 5:02I'm like, well, you gotta do your work.
- 5:03They'll go to college. Last two weeks of school,
- 5:05they're not done yet. They have senioritis.
- 5:08Hardcore senioritis. Yeah, I didn't do shit my last
- 5:13two weeks of high school. Less.
- 5:14Problems that they've been. In your first four years, so.
- 5:19That's fair. That's a good point.
- 5:21With them is they haven't done any.
- 5:22A lot of them haven't done anything in the last month of
- 5:24school, which is why they're currently panicking about not
- 5:27passing their senior year. That'll happen.
- 5:30You know who else hasn't done Jack shit recently?
- 5:33CIG. CIT all day today, hanging out
- 5:38waiting for the patch 4.80. Here it comes.
- 5:41Oh Gee whiz, look at these. Look at this big old new ship
- 5:45and here we are at 9:00 nine O 9:00 PM on Wednesday night.
- 5:51Nothing. Crickets.
- 5:53And it's got to be out tomorrow, right?
- 5:56Today. Today this is the.
- 5:59Day, but I mean it, you know, it could come out at like 11:59
- 6:03today and it'd still. Be good.
- 6:05It'll it'll it'll come out at 11:59 central time because they
- 6:09go by central time. So do that because their their
- 6:14head office or the the office that is all the pushing and
- 6:16publishing is Austin, TX where I am.
- 6:19So that's why they. That's good to know.
- 6:22So everything is done by their time.
- 6:24So it's like why All Star Citizen live and as inside Star
- 6:28Citizens release it like around noon Eastern between noon and
- 6:35one because all of it is in in the UK.
- 6:37So it's like 5 hours ahead. Like they're usually finishing
- 6:39up work. Right.
- 6:42Right, right. You know, these guys live in all
- 6:47over the world, all all this breadth of experience, you know,
- 6:51and everything they're doing it and it seems like they can't do
- 6:53anything, right? The community here starts in the
- 6:56community. I don't know if you've been on
- 6:57spectrum Astro. I try to avoid it.
- 7:01Try to avoid it. Well, here we live in spectrum.
- 7:05How can you yeah, this show this, this, this feels, this
- 7:07feels like a, a, a trap. I've been trapped inside the
- 7:10dumpster with the dumpster monsters.
- 7:13Hey, true powers only get in to those who are willing to lower
- 7:15themselves to pick it up, and you can't get much lower than
- 7:18spectrum. Go Reddit.
- 7:21Can't get much lower. Than but I mean, that's probably
- 7:23about the that's that was about the same, same, same the same
- 7:28level there for for my experience.
- 7:33Yeah, well, when this patch does finally release, supposedly it's
- 7:36coming with a big old wipe. That's right, big old wipe of
- 7:42everything. It's very hygienic.
- 7:43They're going to. I found it.
- 7:44They're going to wipe your money.
- 7:46Thank God. They're going to wipe your
- 7:48cruise locks. That one hurts.
- 7:52They're going to even wipe your reputation, who you were.
- 7:57That wasn't nobody anywhere. Listen, I had 1.5 billion
- 8:03credits. This is, this is communism, all
- 8:06right? That's all I'm going to say.
- 8:07This is this is, this is horrible.
- 8:11It's taking from the rich. The white.
- 8:13Yeah, no, I, I, I I am of the the the opinion that like wipes
- 8:17are important, especially in Alpha and we needed one for a
- 8:20while that CI GS been super like careful about it.
- 8:23Yeah, which I understand why, because they don't want to like
- 8:27I, I don't, I don't know how long either of you, you you've
- 8:29been in the game, but I, I remember back in the day when
- 8:35like they would wipe every patch.
- 8:37So it would be like like 2 months of play and then like
- 8:39it's all gone. So like, now it's back to about
- 8:43a year or so, which isn't, it's not awful, you know, a year of
- 8:46gameplay. Yeah, I I hope they just keep
- 8:52wiping it all the time. I'm going to be honest.
- 8:55And I hope when they do wipe, they wipe everything.
- 8:58I mean, I I hope they wipe it every time there's a big
- 9:00exploit. Definitely because it it ruins
- 9:03my gameplay when someone get, you know, gifts me like a random
- 9:06billion. You lose the motivation.
- 9:11You know and. That's yeah.
- 9:13Oh, yeah. As much as as much as folks love
- 9:15to spend, you know, thousands of dollars in Internet jpegs, like
- 9:19my most, my most cherished memories of Star Citizen are
- 9:22like starting off with them roaring a dream and just doing
- 9:25what I can on a, on a zero to zero.
- 9:27I'm not. I'm not even joking.
- 9:29It's it is. There's something there's
- 9:31something about like getting a bounty kill in a, in a, in a
- 9:35Mustang alpha when all you have is a Mustang alpha starter pack
- 9:38and you're like, I got 500 credits left because I keep
- 9:41messing up this mission. I either succeed this or I go
- 9:45broke and, you know, limping home after after have
- 9:48successfully getting that bounty and I'm like, I'm going to be
- 9:51plus 50 credits on this this bounty, but I could go from
- 9:55here. Like there's a something,
- 9:57something about that feeling about, about doing that this.
- 10:00Is all about it's about the risk and it's about the growth,
- 10:04right? I mean, I, I barely even played
- 10:06last patch very much because I just, I had all the ships, I had
- 10:09tons of money. The grind for blueprints was
- 10:13just kind of so I, you know, I took a back seat, but I'm
- 10:17excited again. Yeah, but you knew.
- 10:22You sensed this coming. I did know, yeah.
- 10:25I had. I had knowledge, foreknowledge.
- 10:29You felt it in your bones, but what a lot of people didn't see
- 10:32coming was you get to keep your Wicklow ships and Spectrum and
- 10:37Reddit for the first time in a long.
- 10:39Time agreed. I'm 100% on board with the rage
- 10:44is justified your your long long posts are are.
- 10:49I didn't read them but I assume they're brilliant pros of of
- 10:54perfectly defined answers. Wicklow.
- 10:56Didn't they go back? Should be gone.
- 10:58Didn't they come back? I said.
- 11:00Didn't they come back and say that they're gonna wipe
- 11:02everything but but? Everything but blueprints now,
- 11:06Yeah. Because I I think once they saw
- 11:09that Reddit and Spectrum were aligned, I mean, alarm bells
- 11:14probably went off at CIG. They were like, whoa, I don't
- 11:19know what's going on here, guys, but you got to hold on.
- 11:21I don't even think it's the same person posting.
- 11:23Something's wrong here. There's not a mob we need.
- 11:28Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right on.
- 11:31And look, the guys, civic action works.
- 11:34This is proof. Yeah, but only, only as long as
- 11:36we're asking to be hurt more. You know, CIG was like, they're
- 11:41going to be upset we're taking all their stuff.
- 11:44And we were like, no. Hurt me more do you do you and
- 11:48your viewers want to know a secret, a deep a deep held
- 11:51secret about how to actually get CIG to do stuff.
- 11:53Here's here's a secret, though. No, they don't want you to know.
- 11:56I I talk about this every so often, which is if you want to
- 11:59change something, you have to make something a meme because
- 12:03Chris Roberts is allergic to memes.
- 12:05So if he if if you make a meme that's like funny, but is also
- 12:09dog in on them specifically they they get it, gets them very
- 12:13annoyed until they change it. That's kind of how we we got the
- 12:16MPUV to become best in show. They tried, they tried real hard
- 12:21to stop it, but it's like, Nope, it's too funny.
- 12:24It's too funny. It's not going to you can't
- 12:26we're going to do it. And unfortunately they learned a
- 12:29long lesson because they got the UTV out the next year.
- 12:31They're like, no, you can't do the UTV.
- 12:32But like, you know, it's, it was one of those things where it was
- 12:35a glorious moment, but it also made she actually go, yeah, we
- 12:38need to change this 'cause this is broken.
- 12:40And we're like, yeah, we've been telling you it's been broken for
- 12:42years now. You should should have changed
- 12:43it a while ago. Yes, yeah, I think that was my
- 12:48first Best in Show event or whatever.
- 12:53And I remember being like, what's everyone's voting for
- 12:55this time 'cause I came from elite.
- 12:57So I came to like 2021 or something after that, and I just
- 13:02remember laughing hysterically at that, at that just idea that
- 13:06this little, teeny, tiny nothing ship and it just kept winning
- 13:09and winning. And I was like, this is exactly
- 13:11the kind of people I want to hang.
- 13:12Out with so part of it is my fault because another content
- 13:18creator, Red Lear, who's no longer with us, I think he's
- 13:20still alive, but he doesn't play Star Citizen anymore.
- 13:22Stuff we need good content wanted to do with you before.
- 13:25And I thought it was funny. So I started telling people on
- 13:28the captain's table who came on. I'm like, hey, this is what I
- 13:30want to do. I want to make the the MPUV best
- 13:32in show. And they were like, that's
- 13:34hilarious. And so they started talking to
- 13:36their communities about it. And so it ended up on Spectrum
- 13:38and read it and more and more people like the idea because he
- 13:42already had like his own community readily home community
- 13:45was doing it. So it just sort of kept creeping
- 13:47out and more and more people began to pay attention to it to
- 13:50the point where like the top content creators and Star
- 13:52Citizen were like, yeah, this is funny.
- 13:54We should do this. And good Lord, the amount of
- 13:58complaining on Reddit about it. Oh, oh, the tears that killed
- 14:01me. It was like, and it's and, and
- 14:04in the immediate aftermath, people found out that I was the
- 14:06one who helped organize it. And they're like, well, then I'm
- 14:09like, yes, blame me. Yes, blame me as I darn myself
- 14:14in my in my. Orange, my my orange.
- 14:17Glory. Glory with the with the with the
- 14:19short King of Star Citizen. Oh yeah.
- 14:24Oh yeah. You know, Speaking of a short
- 14:25king, we do have a, a caller in the in the waiting room.
- 14:27But before we do bring up our, our first caller, we're going
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- 15:33every week you'll have a question.
- 15:34This week's question Does CIG know how to wipe?
- 15:39And our guest right now is Lord Anubis.
- 15:41Lord Anubis, does CIG know how to wipe?
- 15:45I certainly hope so because you, you know, when times get shitty,
- 15:48you have to wipe. And, you know, unfortunately all
- 15:53the great things that they've been introducing into the game
- 15:56kind of don't mean anything because of the hyperinflation
- 16:00and, and the exploits. So yeah, I, I, I think they know
- 16:05how to wipe, but can it get shitty again I guess is the
- 16:09question. Can't escape the inflation.
- 16:14Do you do you think this is a good time for them to be wiping?
- 16:19Oh, this is the best. This is the best time to be
- 16:22wiping because, you know, introducing the new, you know,
- 16:27ship component engineering, for lack of a better term, crafting.
- 16:32I think is is, is going to change the game on a on a
- 16:37completely different level, just the way item crafting has.
- 16:41And I'm really excited for it. And I'd rather start that on a
- 16:44good foot rather than tell myself, well, they're going to
- 16:48do it eventually. So, you know, I'll just wait
- 16:50until they do it. They could do it now.
- 16:53And now I get to enjoy it all. Right.
- 16:56I, I think I've seen some people talking about the crafting ship
- 16:59components in particular in that it's an interesting economy that
- 17:04CIG is setting up, right? They're setting it up where the
- 17:08top tier components are now going to be player built.
- 17:14Because if you've got someone who has, you know, they've done
- 17:16the research, they've got the blueprints for, you know, some
- 17:19military grade quantum drive and then they've gone out or they've
- 17:24sourced, you know, the top quality resources.
- 17:27That's now the best drive you can get.
- 17:29And you're only going to get that from a player.
- 17:33And that's and that is exactly the type of economy we need, as
- 17:37evidenced by Star Wars Galaxies. Precinct.
- 17:40Oh, here we. Go fuck dude.
- 17:42Dude, you ain't like the Fed then.
- 17:43You up for that? That's for probably.
- 17:46I apologize. Every week I try to pick a
- 17:48question where you can't bring up that ridiculous game.
- 17:51If it was such a good game, we would all be playing it. 23
- 17:56years ago, it's dead. It's.
- 17:57Just let it. Go man, people are still
- 17:59playing. It I've had pets.
- 18:00But the the the thing that killed it, the ironic thing that
- 18:02killed it was agreed you're. Agreed.
- 18:06Oh, don't get them started on that.
- 18:08Yeah, no, I there's that's a deep, deep seated, deep seated
- 18:11wound in most the most players of of Star Wars galaxies is the
- 18:15is the freaking stupid Jedi thing.
- 18:17That stupid Jedi thing killed all the hype for it.
- 18:20Or just like done. So Yep.
- 18:24Have you guys considered talking to a professional?
- 18:26About that, yes, but I'm also a Titanfall fan so that that that
- 18:29doesn't happen. I would, I would, I would go, I
- 18:31would go bankrupt. The amount of therapy I need
- 18:34from all the games that have burned me so.
- 18:36Grief and loss. CNG is going to start offering
- 18:38actual. Insurance.
- 18:43Just for like like last they said they were going to release
- 18:45the patch. I stayed up until 2:00 AM and
- 18:47then at 2:05 they released it. How's that make you feel
- 18:53distrustful? Yeah, yeah.
- 18:58I mean, they, it, they, they, it really hurt when they said that
- 19:02they were going to change everything on a fundamental
- 19:04level to match, you know, World of Warcraft, because it's a
- 19:07completely different game. And it it it, it killed
- 19:12everything. I, I do, I do think there is
- 19:15some, some level for CIG to look at that.
- 19:18And it's clearly they are looking at that with a lot of
- 19:19the things that deal with Star Citizen, because it is honestly
- 19:24the closest thing we have to a Star Citizen experience.
- 19:27Because most of all the other Mmos that are popular out there
- 19:30are sandboxes and they're like wow and and so on and so forth.
- 19:33There's not a lot of or not sandboxes.
- 19:35I'm sorry, parks, theme parks. Whereas whereas Star Wars
- 19:44Galaxies was like one of the only successful sandboxes that
- 19:47existed in, in my experience in terms of Mmos.
- 19:50So and the fact that it's space themed is well helped, but I'm
- 19:54not going to give you more fodder because I also have been
- 19:56burned and will not let it die. Yeah, yeah, no.
- 20:03And and I don't want to bring up everybody's trauma here.
- 20:07You know, I think that's why we're having the wipe.
- 20:09Yes, we can. We can wipe away the past in
- 20:13more than one way here. I, I, we can start it.
- 20:15In I have a hard hitting question for Lord Nubis.
- 20:19So do you think that this is going to be a good thing for
- 20:22people who just recently got on or do you think this might drive
- 20:25some people away because you also have the typical like I
- 20:28just got on 2 months ago now all my stuff has been all my
- 20:31progress has been wired. Do you think this is because
- 20:35because they just kind of went, hey, by the way, we're wiping
- 20:37Like it was just, it was just a sudden announcement rather than
- 20:39like a like a announcement well ahead of time.
- 20:44I mean, I've seen people that have, you know, that have
- 20:48complained about it on YouTube. Oh, they said they weren't going
- 20:51to wipe. And no, this is this is
- 20:52horrible. And, and I did all this and I
- 20:54did all that. It'll be painful, but they'll,
- 20:59they'll, they'll stay. I mean, you don't abandoned
- 21:02something as, as as fast as this and knowing that you're going
- 21:06into something where it is now also growing, you know, I don't
- 21:12think we're going to really lose anybody.
- 21:14I think we just need to get out in front of it and tell those
- 21:16people how to think. Yeah, I.
- 21:21Don't. Think a bunch of.
- 21:23A bunch of a bunch of wimps. Stop getting gear fear.
- 21:26Yeah, yeah. There you go.
- 21:27Oh, no. Yeah.
- 21:28Oh no, my, my, my major shit just got kids there.
- 21:31Something a baby bro up. Space is tough, all right.
- 21:35Yeah, Bob. That's what this community
- 21:37really needs is more more toxic. Down talking, Yeah, talk, talk
- 21:41down to to to the after the person.
- 21:44I completely disenfranchise their experience.
- 21:46There's been lacking. Considering it's the community
- 21:49of mostly fathers, it is interesting how little down.
- 21:51Talking, Hey, that's because that's old school, OK?
- 21:53We don't do that anymore. What are you calling the the,
- 21:59the, the Star Citizen population at large, mainly millennials in
- 22:02their, you know, mid 30s to 40s. CIG.
- 22:05Is all of all of our stats are saying that my stats are like
- 22:10the the youngest person who watches my my show is my shows
- 22:13are 25 and that's probably just people living in denial of their
- 22:17of their coming 30s. That's that's someone someone's
- 22:21algorithm went away with the auto, the auto run feature or.
- 22:24Something like they an accidental click.
- 22:26You know what? What the heck is this, you know?
- 22:29Whereas me, I, I'll take this opportunity to fanboy, I mean
- 22:33you, you have joined me in many showers over the years.
- 22:38We've we've showered together numerous times.
- 22:41I'm glad my voice, I mean, usually people say my voice
- 22:44loves them to sleep, so I I don't know.
- 22:45No, they're excellent, you know. I've, I have, I have been in
- 22:52many people's beds and apparently many people's
- 22:53showers. So that's that's, that's a
- 22:56compliment, I'm sure. But it very, very confident.
- 22:58I always enjoy it. I, I got to meet you very
- 23:01briefly in LA. You won't remember, but I I
- 23:04remember. Your voice when when you were
- 23:06talking, I'm like this guy sounds freaking familiar.
- 23:08I don't know why he sounds familiar.
- 23:09And I'm like, no, So we met before, that's why.
- 23:13Yeah, saw you on the street in LA and I, I geeked out, I
- 23:15fanboyed. I love history.
- 23:17I, I also, I also was a teacher for a while.
- 23:19I taught some history. And so you're love listening to
- 23:23your podcast? Thank you.
- 23:25Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it is really good
- 23:27and and I made sure to thank you for the two hour long videos
- 23:32that like you can completely nerd out too.
- 23:34Thank you. Yeah.
- 23:36My wife calls you Space Tomato. That's so wrong, guy.
- 23:42You're with us the. Funny, the funniest part is that
- 23:45I have, I have actually been on Space Tomatoes podcast probably
- 23:49more than anybody else, so that's completely
- 23:51understandable. That's fine.
- 23:53There you go. There you go.
- 23:57Yeah, well enough. Ugin and and Oglin and and
- 24:00Googlin and Zhang. Hey, back-to-back to the
- 24:02question. I think that it's going to be
- 24:04really good for the new people because it's going to layer
- 24:08level the playing pool field for a little while.
- 24:11So instead of coming in and like, you know, everyone you run
- 24:13into has billions of space bucks and they've got all the ships
- 24:17they could possibly have. Everyone's, everyone's starting
- 24:21fresh. You know, we all got work to do.
- 24:23We all have things to earn and I I think that'll help them just
- 24:28in terms of like feeling like they're part of the community
- 24:33and also just their interactions with some of the other players
- 24:37out there will be less 1 sided. Yeah, like, like during the
- 24:42region crisis, everybody helped each other out.
- 24:44I I gotta think that's gonna happen again.
- 24:47They're, you know. Well, Speaking of somebody who's
- 24:50always helping out, he's our our first caller.
- 24:53Been here the longest. It is Wicket.
- 24:56Wicket, Thank you for calling to open Comms Radio, your Star
- 24:59Citizen call and show you're here live.
- 25:01Of course, I'm George Roger Brownie.
- 25:02You're here with Duke. Later the second Lord Anubis and
- 25:06our special guest this week, the Astro Pub.
- 25:08Wicket, the CIG know how to wipe.
- 25:14Citizens, long time listener, occasional caller, and I love
- 25:23the double entendre. Obviously they better know how
- 25:28to wipe with some of the shit that they put out.
- 25:33Second thing, of course it's a good thing that we wipe and it's
- 25:38they do know how to wipe, and they finally figured out how to
- 25:42wipe effectively by getting rid of Wiccolo too.
- 25:46Well, they didn't get rid of them.
- 25:47They just took away his his toys.
- 25:49They took back his presence for these.
- 25:51Yeah. I think we, I think you
- 25:53understand what I mean. He stands with xeno threat.
- 25:55That's what he said he means in. Any event, in any event, the the
- 26:03good thing about the wipe is that things like now that we're
- 26:06going to be able to craft ship components the way duping and
- 26:14crafting .5 used to work with duping ship components.
- 26:19Of course we had to get rid of that.
- 26:20Or why even craft new new gear when you can just dupe it.
- 26:25So and then to dupe the money dupes and all that stuff.
- 26:29My bigger, my bigger focus would have been, it's great that
- 26:33you're wiping CIG, but have you figured out how to catch and fix
- 26:37exploits? Because, you know, don't wait
- 26:41until the game releases to figure out exploits and exploits
- 26:44squashing. We need to figure that out now
- 26:47during the development cycle. And the sooner the better.
- 26:50Because, you know, learning these tools and these these
- 26:56methods to catch the scammers and the dupers and the cheaters
- 27:00now before the game goes live is vastly more important than
- 27:04figuring it out after the game goes live.
- 27:06Because once those dupes are in the in the final product,
- 27:10they're going to be hard as hell to get rid of probably.
- 27:12And it's going to just ruin everybody's experience.
- 27:15I'm going to make everything meaningless.
- 27:17So I'm all for wipes but I'm more for figuring out catching
- 27:22all these exploits and dupes and and things that break the
- 27:26economy and the need to play the game really.
- 27:29Yeah. I mean, will we be in the same
- 27:31situation in two weeks? Really, we don't know yet.
- 27:36Patch. Though I hope.
- 27:37I hope not, but I hope not. But who knows, I mean they're
- 27:43struggling to get this patch out it seems like, and I guess maybe
- 27:48the struggle is good because they know they have an inferior
- 27:52product and they want to release it.
- 27:54If they have to wait a day I'm I'd be fine with it.
- 27:56Yeah, yeah, I'd be OK too if they were like, hey, it didn't
- 27:59work out. But if this isn't just any
- 28:01patch, this shit is the money making patch right here.
- 28:06Do you think that had anything to do with CI GS session for the
- 28:09wife? They'd be like, hey, we're going
- 28:10to get rid of all your money and now here's some chips you can
- 28:12buy. Or do you think it was
- 28:14ultimately like to to stop because they they have been
- 28:17trying to chase down some of these X boys.
- 28:18We know that they've talked about that in the past.
- 28:20They've had posts on spectrum and stuff like that where
- 28:22they're being, that was the last one where everyone freaked out.
- 28:25It was like there's going to be a Wolf control 7 or not to just
- 28:28enough, right? But like, do you think they
- 28:30actually copied it or they just went, yeah, we could wipe it and
- 28:33then they make force them to buy some chips?
- 28:35I don't know if forcing people to buy chips, I think, I think
- 28:39the the the audience that CIG has are going to buy chips
- 28:43whether they need them or not. I mean that's been proven time
- 28:46and time again. You put up something shiny and
- 28:49then and just even semi cool people will buy it.
- 28:53You know. It could be garbage as long as
- 28:55you slapping else and go in there.
- 28:57Well, OK, to my point here. Thank you for the Segway Duke.
- 29:02We're talking about ships. The the big ship sales coming
- 29:05up. They offer these 10 year
- 29:07warranty war bonds. I have my ship package that has
- 29:12Squadron 42, Star Citizen and an Aurora.
- 29:16I don't like the Aurora but I don't want to upgrade it and not
- 29:20have insurance on it. It has like 3 month insurance or
- 29:22whatever it has on it. I know I can't upgrade to an
- 29:25LTI. Can I upgrade to a 10 year war
- 29:30bond? And can I stack them?
- 29:32Because I remember seeing accounts that had like stacked
- 29:34insurance, they had like 5-10 year war bonds or insurance or
- 29:40whatever. And am I hallucinating?
- 29:42I don't think you lose your insurance when you upgrade.
- 29:45No, that's so the, the, the rule of thumb is whatever you start
- 29:49off with is what you have. So I I recently did this because
- 29:54I went through and I applied ACCU chain to my to get my my
- 30:01ironclad assault and that process I had a LTIMPUV referral
- 30:10bonus that I got and I used that as the the base of it.
- 30:14But I also had a bunch of other like ones that I purchased that
- 30:17had like 10 year insurance on them.
- 30:19So my full CCU chain has like 710 year insurance plus LTI.
- 30:27Wait, hold on. Yeah, Wait.
- 30:28Go back. So how do you how do you Add all
- 30:31those insurance packages together?
- 30:32I. Don't get so every ship you have
- 30:35has insurance but you can't upgrade from to LTI from another
- 30:40package like LTI is like it's it's the base.
- 30:43So if you try to do upgrade something that was not LTI to
- 30:47LTI, it won't work because you can't cross chassis into an LTI.
- 30:51But right. But I can't.
- 30:52I can't upgrade to anything with any insurance.
- 30:55Every time I upgrade it says you'll retain.
- 30:57Your first level of insurance, Yeah, but on my account it says.
- 31:00So how do you have different? Insurance it just says 10 years
- 31:02insurance because it was it was calculating all of the upgrades.
- 31:07So it's not actually 10 years insurance.
- 31:10It just it's a bug effectively in the UI where like you'll see
- 31:14someone who says it has like 10 year insurance, 10 year
- 31:16insurance, 10 year insurance, 10 year insurance.
- 31:18It's like that's just because it was one of the things that was
- 31:21part of the package that you or part of the the the ship that
- 31:23you upgraded to. So it's it's always.
- 31:28So it's not 50. It's not 50 years.
- 31:30You're like, you're just getting whatever your base package was.
- 31:33The rest of the stuff isn't doesn't count, so.
- 31:37There is one exception to this suppose and that's the the the
- 31:42nomad. There was ACCU upgrade that you
- 31:47could upgrade to an LTI Nomad back in the day.
- 31:54I am not familiar with this now. This sounds made-up.
- 31:57OK, it's on star hanger, it's an upgrade so I could upgrade.
- 32:01It's like the common 1 is like from a reliant to a nomad and it
- 32:07says CCULTI upgrade and supposedly if you have a package
- 32:12that doesn't have the insurance you can buy upgrade it to a
- 32:15Reliant and then buy this chain and you get the LTI with it
- 32:20that. That that'd be used to me did
- 32:23this one. Sounds like sounds like scam
- 32:25citizen. That's.
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- 33:16Well wicket, wicket here buddy. Anything else you want to say
- 33:19before I bring up our next guest here?
- 33:22Well, I'm, I'm, I'm looking forward to the new patch.
- 33:26I'm looking forward to have a reason to play the game again,
- 33:29to answer the earlier question about these new players that
- 33:32came on board. And you know, one way of looking
- 33:35at it would be, yeah, I'm pissed off.
- 33:37I lost all this progress that I just I just recently enjoyed.
- 33:41But for most people, I think that if, if, if you play Star
- 33:45Citizen, like out of free fly and you stick around past the
- 33:48free fly, they're they've already hooked you.
- 33:51OK, you're going to, you're coming back and you're going to
- 33:53keep coming back. Because sometimes, you know,
- 33:57especially during the free fly, there's going to be so many, so
- 33:59much garbage and, and bugs and, and other nonsense you have to
- 34:04deal with that most people don't have the patience for.
- 34:07So if you stick around past that and that you if, if, if you're
- 34:11smart, you're going to look at this this wipe as, Oh well,
- 34:14they've even the playing field sort of except for like if
- 34:18you're some kind of whale who has all these extra ships.
- 34:20But otherwise they've kind of even played in the field, even
- 34:24the playing field. So I think that's a good thing
- 34:27or how I would look at it if you know, But of course, we're not
- 34:31dealing with rational people. This is Internet spaceships
- 34:34after all. Hey, man, don't don't go name
- 34:40calling, OK? And Speaking of someone who
- 34:43really enjoys Internet spaceships, we have with us on
- 34:45the couch. If you guys can scoot down.
- 34:47Broccoli Rob, Broccoli Rob, Rob. Broccoli Rob, welcome to Open
- 34:51Comms Radio, your Star Citizen call in show you're on the couch
- 34:54with Wicket Lord Anubis Duke later the second.
- 34:58I'm George Jabroni and we have a very special guest today, the
- 35:00Astro Pub. Our question for you, Broccoli
- 35:03Rob, does CIG know how to wipe? How's it going, everybody?
- 35:10Do they know how to wipe? I I think so.
- 35:13Seems like they're kind of learning as they go.
- 35:15But they haven't, you know, hasn't happened too often.
- 35:19The Wiccolo is a little goofy. I kind of don't care either way.
- 35:27I'm excited. I'm excited for the wipe.
- 35:29You're just saying that cuz you have a lot of wiccolo stuff.
- 35:33I don't really. Actually, I was.
- 35:35I was doing my damnedest to get something the between when they
- 35:40announced the wipe and then when they announced the Wickle.
- 35:42No, I'd like, I like a gun from there, I think.
- 35:47Well then what do you? What do you needing fangs and
- 35:50eyeballs and and ronta poop for? But those man has a hobby, what
- 35:55are you going to show him? Broccoli for having a hobby.
- 35:58What do you do? What do you do with these piles
- 36:00of Ronta poop man? Honestly, getting it for other
- 36:03people, I want everyone else to try it out because I know I'm
- 36:09just going to be really, really disappointed when I try it and
- 36:12it fails. So I was like, I don't need
- 36:15that. Everyone has fifty.
- 36:17Well, everyone had $50 million, I guess.
- 36:20Still do. Still do, yeah.
- 36:24But as far as the, the new player question goes, I
- 36:29honestly, I think, you know, first hits free, I think they're
- 36:32going to, for better or for worse, this game, when you play
- 36:35it, it's taste that you're not going to be able to get out of
- 36:37your mouth. And they, they get into the 890
- 36:41jump for the first time. I'm sure we all remember doing
- 36:43that. And we're like, holy shit, this
- 36:45is incredible. Yeah.
- 36:46They buy one, they fly it around, they get an idea for
- 36:49what the game is. And then they take it all away.
- 36:51They're like, OK, got to come back.
- 36:53I got to come back. Yeah, the 890 is not going to be
- 36:56the thing anymore. Too small, you have bigger and
- 37:01better. Ships way too small?
- 37:02Yeah, not enough. Turrets.
- 37:05Now you. I know for a fact, Brock and
- 37:07Rob, you've been hanging out in that Kraken, Not that crack.
- 37:09What is it? That ironclad?
- 37:12Yeah. What do you think?
- 37:13How do you feel? Oh, it's great.
- 37:16It's they're really, they're improving with each new ship
- 37:22that they have made. I mean, Polaris was like kind of
- 37:26a, you know, it's, it's Spartan because it's military, right?
- 37:31But then after that, I feel like each new large ship they've
- 37:35brought in has brought in cooler and cooler features.
- 37:39Design, design languages for each manufacturer get better.
- 37:43I really think the Ironclad nailed it and I have very high
- 37:47hopes of cracking because of it. I'm can I be a little
- 37:54controversial here? And I know I'm, I'm going to be
- 37:56tuned up on. That's nothing like you, but all
- 38:00right. I'm not I don't the Kraken like
- 38:03cool, neat. You know, everyone's talking
- 38:07about how it's going to be game changing and this and that and
- 38:10I'm like, we already have ships that can hold other ships.
- 38:12I agree I I don't see what the big excitement is about the
- 38:16Kraken. I get that you like it.
- 38:20You can like it for sure. But what's it be certified for
- 38:24the rest of us? What's it Can I be a Can I be a
- 38:27certified Drake fanboy? Go for it.
- 38:29And back up broccoli I. Didn't I didn't fucking know
- 38:32this before I brought. You on the show, dude?
- 38:34I'm really wearing a Drake Trucker cap right now as I had
- 38:37to put it on to to do the ramp. Unbelievable, I know.
- 38:41I bet you paid Stig money to have your name on the door that
- 38:44says owner. Like actually the texture put in
- 38:47the game. I would.
- 38:48I would you gave him. 50 I would absolutely love that, but no, I
- 38:50I don't actually own a a Kraken, but I can't defend the Kraken in
- 38:56that. Up to now there has been no real
- 39:00carrier. Like you can argue that the,
- 39:03the, the, the Idris is a carrier, but it's really more a
- 39:06carrier for like 2 small ships. You can put some, you can cram
- 39:10stuff in there like it's like it's a sardine can, but you
- 39:13can't really use it as a carrier.
- 39:16Where is the flat top nature of the Kraken means you can put a
- 39:19lot of ships, and not just a lot of ships put them in there, but
- 39:22you also can bring them down, prepare them all while you have
- 39:26cargo Bay access. It's much more utilitarian than
- 39:30anything we have and of its size.
- 39:32It is going to feel more like a flying space station than
- 39:36anything. And because it's Drake and not a
- 39:39military, it's going to feel a lot less military themed and a
- 39:42lot more of a just sort of like an industrial.
- 39:45So I think it's both a aesthetic but also practical because like
- 39:50you can land A at least one if not multiple median ships on
- 39:56that thing. Like the the the Cutlass, I can
- 40:00hold like 2 cutlasses. And I think people measured us.
- 40:03You can put like a constellation on the large pad.
- 40:06So I thought I saw. Somebody had a Corsair on there
- 40:09too? Yeah, you can put some like very
- 40:11big ships on that thing, which means that you can effectively
- 40:15double the range of those larger ships as well, as well as not
- 40:19just putting those on there but also repairing and refueling and
- 40:21rearming. So it starts to look a lot more,
- 40:25it'll be a lot more game changing.
- 40:26The sense of just fundamentally you will have something that you
- 40:30don't have to spend 400 years to to build and maintain because
- 40:36you can just fly it around. Rather than having to go build a
- 40:38base and then figure building it out and then building a space
- 40:41station and taking the forever time to build a space station.
- 40:44You can basically have that in one go and not be stuck to one
- 40:47place. So the Kraken could be sort of
- 40:51the beginning of player bases. Yeah.
- 40:55Even if we had player bases, the time it would sort of be, it
- 40:58depends on when we have it, but it'll be the beginning of player
- 41:00space stations for sure. You'll begin to see like a taste
- 41:02of what it's like to have a space station.
- 41:05My worry with the Kraken is if it's, you know, they're laying
- 41:10it out so that it functions more like an action carrier, right?
- 41:16But I wonder how much of that will end up being Larping and
- 41:22versus like the interest. It just sort of works because
- 41:26gameplay is different from real life, right?
- 41:28A lot of times, you know, gameplay is so much simpler than
- 41:32real life. People skip a lot of the things
- 41:34that they would have to do in real life.
- 41:38So if they're designing the cracking around how an actual
- 41:41carrier would work, how much of that is going to end up being
- 41:44useful and how much is just going to be, you know, for
- 41:48looks? Yeah, I, I think that's what the
- 41:56what the ironclad is for. Sorry to to poop all on
- 41:59Broccoli's and Rob's answer because I'm sure Broccoli Rob
- 42:02had a similar answer being a certified trade fan.
- 42:08That's right. It's a.
- 42:09He's he's also an origin I think though, so he's not, he's not
- 42:12loyal. That's fine.
- 42:14Yeah, you know, nice things are nice.
- 42:16What? What can I say?
- 42:17At least he's not a Misk fan, says the Mist fan.
- 42:20You know what? I'm feeling ganged up on.
- 42:23I am a Mist fan. Yeah, actually, actually,
- 42:25actually, you could tell him, Brock and Rob.
- 42:29Yeah, I did. I actually got a tattoo of a.
- 42:32Freelancer. That's OK because it's a
- 42:33freelancer. It's the best.
- 42:36Exactly. It's the best person.
- 42:38So it's the Yeah. That's right.
- 42:41It's what got me into the game, the commercial I've had.
- 42:44My freelancer for so long I'm I am waiting for the freelancer
- 42:48rework for mark 2. I'll even take the mark 2.
- 42:51I usually complain about the the whole mark two thing, but.
- 42:55See how they've eased you into that?
- 42:57Feeling well, that's that's how their time relationship works.
- 43:01Yeah, yeah. Well, they can.
- 43:03They can remake. I'll buy them again.
- 43:07This time will be different. Anyway, Brock and Rob, Yeah,
- 43:10tell us about the ironclad broccoli, Rob.
- 43:15I'm just excited and kind of to speak to the Kraken and the hype
- 43:18that comes around it. I think it's it's matching up
- 43:22with timeline for other things that I'm expecting or hoping to
- 43:27be in the future, like improved ATC.
- 43:31There's a lot of stuff that I think gameplay wise will come
- 43:35with the Kraken. So it's not this just the ship
- 43:37itself, it's how the game is going to evolve by the time the
- 43:40Kraken is out that I think will. So I'm kind of looking as at the
- 43:44Kraken. It's like a vehicle, no, no pun
- 43:47intended, for the future of the game and how the game will be
- 43:51functioning when the Kraken comes out.
- 43:56OK, I'm honestly guys, I'm still not there.
- 44:00I hear you. Well, we'll get you.
- 44:01We'll get you. I hear you, Ironclad, as you've
- 44:04been exploring in the PTU where you're like, you know, this is
- 44:07going to be game changing or this is the seed of something
- 44:11big that's coming in the future. When I saw the assault at the
- 44:18fabrication bench, like it's on, it's on the Clipper, which is
- 44:21cool, but having that much cargo space just to sort of put some
- 44:27stuff on there. I guess it depends on if it's
- 44:30going to craft components or not.
- 44:33It looks like it could be big enough, but just to be, you
- 44:38know, out in the world and have someone have supplies to craft,
- 44:44like a new shield or something. Someone lands real quick, you
- 44:47craft it, you slap it in there, they get going.
- 44:50It is a little bit, you know, pie in the sky dreaming, like,
- 44:52how much of that is going to be practical?
- 44:54But I'm hoping for a situation where it is.
- 45:00Now I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, the only ships with
- 45:06crafting tables in them are those Drake ships, the Clipper
- 45:09and. See, this is the reason why
- 45:11Drake is so good. Yeah, so far.
- 45:13This is why why Drake is is so great.
- 45:15Favoritism. I mean, yeah, I I'll take the
- 45:18After years of John Crew pooping on my brand, I will.
- 45:22I will. I'll take the the West doesn't.
- 45:26The Carrick also have a. Craft it does technically, yeah.
- 45:29It's got the the the like the bench, the workbench.
- 45:32It's got like a like a tool, but it's just not in in game yet.
- 45:38Yeah. Well, did they make the the ones
- 45:42that are on the Clipper and the and the?
- 45:48We don't know that, right? This is.
- 45:51This is CIG, no? We know it's.
- 45:56Not working yet because it barely works in on station.
- 45:58But the the problem is it is the inventory.
- 46:01It pulls from inventory and pulls 2 inventory.
- 46:03So I think right now it's still. Oh, here we go.
- 46:05It still, it still ends up in the like station inventory
- 46:09stuff, so. The bane of CIG, of the Star
- 46:13Citizen's existence, is the those.
- 46:15Damn inventory in their I thought you were stupid
- 46:17elevators. It'd be great if the players I.
- 46:21Would never if it weren't for the players in there discovering
- 46:24all these damn bugs. Yeah, the.
- 46:26Game would be perfect. Now, I told you I'm in.
- 46:31I'm in accord with Reddit and Spectrum this week, so whatever
- 46:35they think, I think, yeah. Speaking of someone who doesn't
- 46:39follow the crowd, actually, we do have another guest down in
- 46:42the waiting room. Brock and Rob.
- 46:43Anything you want to say before you bring this guy up?
- 46:50No. All right.
- 46:52All right, well, here he is, our leader.
- 46:56Like Guild master. Not a Guild.
- 46:58Fellow guildy man who dresses like a cat.
- 47:02It is Murphy Jack. Murphy Jack, welcome to open
- 47:04Comms Radio. Your Star Citizen call in show
- 47:07you are on the couch. Familiar smell.
- 47:10You're here with Wicket Lord Anubis Duke.
- 47:13Later the second broccoli. Rob, I'm Jar Jar Jabroni and our
- 47:16special guest this week is the Astro Pub of the Astro Historian
- 47:20and Captain's Table. Murphy Jack.
- 47:24Does CIG know how to wipe? Well, I mean, we're going to,
- 47:28we're going to find out. Just think about all the other
- 47:31wipes and how many times they went exactly the way they said
- 47:34they were going to go, right. So I just, I'm going to laugh.
- 47:38We log in and we still have everything.
- 47:41I think it's possible. SharePoint.
- 47:42That's a pretty. Bad point.
- 47:43I mean, looking back, you know, every time they talked about
- 47:46doing this, that and everything and it was always janky.
- 47:50And then they how they announce it like a couple days beforehand
- 47:53and stuff. They're still still learning and
- 47:57I think blueprint should be wiped too, but we'll leave that,
- 48:01you know, we'll leave that one there.
- 48:06Well, I just you know, you think about I think it was really
- 48:10needed, really, really needed now, especially with this with
- 48:15the component crafting and what vehicle weapon crafting, because
- 48:18now that that, you know, like you guys were saying, you're not
- 48:23going to be able to do the dupe that everybody was doing dupe or
- 48:26insurance fraud, whatever the hell you want to call it.
- 48:29Now there's the drive right to get out there and mine.
- 48:33But also on top of that, all those all every new big event
- 48:40from the worm, the radiation worm, Hyperion, the Vanduol tech
- 48:49smuggler, and now TSG, we we were already like pretty well
- 48:55set up when those came in, right for the first time.
- 48:58But now like, yeah, I specifically think of Rock
- 49:02breaker and like how the contested one was cheaper and
- 49:06then the the exclusive one was more expensive.
- 49:11We were just we the money didn't matter to us at all.
- 49:14We were just like, screw it. Does this get the exclusive?
- 49:17We want to try it out or let's do the contestants see if we get
- 49:19any combat. But now like it's going to
- 49:23matter as long as there's no ABC dupe, but it's going to matter
- 49:27like hey, we got to like do the contested one, but are we set up
- 49:32enough? We got to do the worm, we got to
- 49:35get fangs. But are we, you know, are we in
- 49:39a good spot? And just thinking of all the
- 49:43prep leading up to taking on like a, a big event like that
- 49:49worm, you know what I'm saying? All the prep and everything
- 49:54that's going to go into that, it's like exciting because now
- 49:58like we have in the org, we got the two recurring events that
- 50:03are geared towards getting us set up.
- 50:05So like on the weekend, we can, when everybody's around, we can
- 50:08get people set up, go out and do these things.
- 50:11Whereas before it was just kind of like, meh, let's go.
- 50:14You know, we just what we we sat in ruined for hours fighting
- 50:19Now, like there's a drive to go mine.
- 50:21There's a drive to get these better things and always be
- 50:25chasing a little bit better quality, a little bit a little
- 50:29bit more of this. And you know, everybody's going
- 50:33to need stuff and we can't just sit in a hanger and RIP it off
- 50:36and do and hit a button and there's another one.
- 50:39RIP it off, give it to somebody. There's actually got to go out
- 50:44and a lot of time is put into this, this stuff, but I think
- 50:50it's. Good.
- 50:50Now, yeah. Murphy Jack, do you feel like
- 50:54you've come around on the quality?
- 50:58Remember. A couple of weeks ago, a few
- 51:00weeks ago, every week. Quality I only because they
- 51:03what? It's down to 8 now right?
- 51:05This is 8 different things, not 1000.
- 51:08Yeah, yeah. Well, it's so they they
- 51:11downsized it and you still need it to to build the everything
- 51:16you feel like that's in a good spot.
- 51:20I don't know, it's definitely better, I feel like, but I, you
- 51:29know, you really don't. I, I, I'm fine with the way
- 51:32they're doing it because we got to just get in there and play
- 51:34with it right and figure out, and they got to figure out how
- 51:37what works and everything. And the thousand thing was a bit
- 51:42much, but it was good to start I think because it showed like,
- 51:49you know, we don't want to go out and 8's more manageable than
- 51:54well, I got 950 now I want 960, right?
- 51:59Yeah. Do you, do you see the, have you
- 52:02been mining? Do you, does it pop up on the
- 52:04scanner? Because I know it was just like
- 52:06it would pop up as 856 or whatever and then it would just
- 52:09round to 9 or. Whatever I think Rob, you did
- 52:12right. You said it was like 325 and 664
- 52:14and then these rent like 8 numbers.
- 52:17I haven't personally looked I'm I'm just going off of what I've
- 52:21seen other people reporting on. So hopefully there's a bunch of
- 52:26people that aren't wrong, but we'll, we'll find out.
- 52:28Soon. Is it in the scanner now or is
- 52:30it still just in the mining head when you put your mining head on
- 52:32it? My understanding is that it
- 52:37randomizes a like group of numbers, like somewhere between
- 52:421 and 1000. It picks that and then the
- 52:45number it picks it re, it changes it to the correct number
- 52:49in that band. So it say it picks between it
- 52:54picks, I don't know, 3:40 And then in that band 340 turns into
- 53:01like 400 even just cuz that's all of those in that like and
- 53:11are going to be 400. I think I understand that part
- 53:14of it. My broader question maybe I'll
- 53:16I'll try to rephrase. It is currently in 4.7.
- 53:22The only way you could find out what the quality of the ore
- 53:25contained in the rock that you were about to mine was to turn
- 53:29on your mining head and let the mining head scan the rock and
- 53:33then the quality would be presented to you.
- 53:36My question is, is that the long range scanner that you know when
- 53:40you're in your ship and you're pinging and you're you're
- 53:42getting the Rs signature? Or if you do a full directional
- 53:48scan on a rock that's very distant from you, multiple
- 53:51kilometers away, is that giving the quality or is it still just
- 53:55the mining? Oh no, no, nothing.
- 53:57Nothing's changed, only the the amount of quality.
- 54:04It is not no longer 1000, it's just 8 now.
- 54:06Everything else is exactly the same.
- 54:09So it's getting there, but I wanted to touch on you guys were
- 54:14talking about the cracking and everything and like we Paul or
- 54:18Astro pubs take on it. I also feel like when that when
- 54:24they bring that online and the Liberator is hopefully like not
- 54:29far behind or whatever, they really, I would really want them
- 54:34to put Pyro and other places back to their original what they
- 54:40were supposed to be. It was like no fuel.
- 54:42Well, not no fuel, but very limited fuel.
- 54:45So you really got to think about your jumps and like the, the
- 54:51social tools and everything are online for it where you have to
- 54:57interact with people to get like if I want to take my Hornet to
- 55:02so and so or whatever, it'd be worth it to hire a player or,
- 55:08you know, book transit on their carrier.
- 55:14I know it's, you know. I like, I like this.
- 55:16Go on, Murphy. Jacks, like everybody was
- 55:19saying, but well it just we need more interaction and like that
- 55:25that like this refueling thing. They hopefully I kind of missed
- 55:31the mark, I guess to what MP when you put out a beacon and
- 55:34MPC comes to refuel, it's not like a Med beacon, but hopefully
- 55:40they get that like a player. You know, think about the fuel
- 55:45rats and everything, right? Come over there and oh.
- 55:47Murphy Jack, you actually you bring me to the the second
- 55:51question of the evening here in Astropub.
- 55:54I don't know if you know this, but our second question,
- 55:56sometimes it's a fun one, Sometimes it's a goofy one,
- 56:00sometimes is a rage baiting question.
- 56:03And this week I opted for the rage bait.
- 56:06And I know someone here is going to want to give a long monologue
- 56:09about it. And Murphy Jack let us right
- 56:11into it. It has been brought to the
- 56:13attention of many of of the fandom and and I think maybe to
- 56:17Jared himself in the moment, maybe even that Star Citizen may
- 56:22be considering fast travel adds a mechanic in the game.
- 56:27Here, Oh man, do we I. I am a fan.
- 56:31I, I I. Hold on.
- 56:33Wait, wait, wait, wait. Line up, everybody.
- 56:35No, I was going to say I am AI am a fan of what I like to call
- 56:39touching the third the third rail Star Citizen whenever you
- 56:42want to when you want to like really rile people up.
- 56:45You want to touch that third rail, one of those third rails.
- 56:48I always I always like to touch is NPC crew sucks and I'm I'm
- 56:52tired of prevent pretending it doesn't because that just that
- 56:56just gets unreasonable angry comments in your in your in your
- 57:00anywhere. So this is.
- 57:02Yeah, fuck NPC crew. Exactly.
- 57:04Say that with you with your whole chest and see how many
- 57:07people get mad at you with the comments.
- 57:12I have a slightly nuanced take to this in the sense that I
- 57:17think fast travel is bad, but I think you can still accomplish
- 57:23the same thing without losing the sense of scale in the star
- 57:27scissors the universe. And we already have an example
- 57:29of that, which was the the public transit systems of Wow.
- 57:34And I remember there was, I can't remember the name of it
- 57:36specifically, but where you could get on like Griffin and it
- 57:38would like take you to different locations, but you'd have to
- 57:41like literally fly on those those Griffins.
- 57:46Skyrim had something similar where like with the with the
- 57:50the. Dragon well Skyrim you could you
- 57:53fast travel. From your you could, but you
- 57:54could also take the the like the wagon like you go pay, pay some
- 58:00money and go take the wagon and it would take you originally
- 58:03that was supposed to be a 1 to 1.
- 58:05You get into the wagon and it would just walk you through the
- 58:08entire thing. So you would have to like stay
- 58:10in the wagon. As it moved, they found it was a
- 58:11little bit too slow. So I could see something like
- 58:16that, you know, even if the early implementation is just
- 58:18like, hey, you got a timer 510 minutes you'll be you'll be to
- 58:23the location, but you don't have to worry about it.
- 58:25You can just go use the bathroom.
- 58:27You can go, you know, grab some E you just have a timer counting
- 58:31down until you arrive at the location, which works just like
- 58:34a teleportation, but it adds the whole, well, now you have to
- 58:37sacrifice some time, maybe some money to to get to that
- 58:40location. You're still there.
- 58:42You can still link up, but you can't just go instantly snap
- 58:45your fingers and be like, oh, I'm across the universe.
- 58:47It's like, Nah, you got to have some time waiting while also
- 58:52allowing for people to ease your link up and, you know, not be
- 58:55able to take your ships with you.
- 58:56Especially as the game gets bigger and they start doing what
- 58:59they already done with like ships where you have to pay
- 59:01money to get them back. I can see that starting to
- 59:07something like that could work. But I, I'm not a big fan of the
- 59:10whole just show up in the hangar kind of thing because that seems
- 59:13like it ruins a lot of the point of travel because, you know,
- 59:18that's time and energy and the risk of doing so.
- 59:25So, so you're saying this is like, this is like something
- 59:28where you you can go to a Kelto, you select your respawn point
- 59:32and then they humanely put your clone down and then you wake up
- 59:35somewhere else? More, more, more like you show
- 59:37up at like you go to like the, the like the the hanger section
- 59:41and there's like a a kiosk. It's like get Bojor Genesis
- 59:44Starliner today and you just click the hanger and and it'll
- 59:47just for early on you just trade to black.
- 59:50But otherwise you can just let go onto a onto a Genesis
- 59:54Starliner and just sit there while the thing flies, Even if
- 59:57it's like in a an instant zone or you don't or you don't even
- 59:59see anything. You just sitting there kind of
- 1:00:01like in the in Wow when you want to take the Griffin or the the
- 1:00:05flying creatures to to the different locations, you can
- 1:00:07actually look down and see the whole map as you're flying kind
- 1:00:10of thing. Space wave O.
- 1:00:12Yeah. Murphy, Jack.
- 1:00:13How do you feel about instant travel?
- 1:00:16Oh fuck it, monetize it $5 a piece, get our second billion.
- 1:00:19Fuck off man, get out. Of here.
- 1:00:22I like it. That's the best take I've heard
- 1:00:23so far. That is, that is amazing hyper
- 1:00:27capitalist go. Yeah, I mean, they can't wait.
- 1:00:31They just solve everyone's fears about how CID is going to
- 1:00:34monetize the game, right? Everyone's like, they're going
- 1:00:37to charge your subscription fee or oh, they're going to make it
- 1:00:40pay to win. Nope, it's just pay to travel
- 1:00:43folks. Ironically, that's not, that's
- 1:00:45my biggest problem is just it's, there's no punishment to it.
- 1:00:48If there's no punishment or there's nothing you have to give
- 1:00:50up in order to do it, then it feels weird.
- 1:00:52But like, yeah, pay $5 to move. Yeah, I'm OK with that.
- 1:00:55You want to move fast, you're going to be paying paying the
- 1:00:57server fees, you know. I mean, out of serious, no, I
- 1:01:02and I know he's going to pipe up too, because I, I, I really feel
- 1:01:06that it's not a good idea. It's just, it's just stupid.
- 1:01:12It's it's and I and I really feel like that the dev when they
- 1:01:16were talking and everything, this was kind of just like a he,
- 1:01:19you know, wasn't really didn't get the whole thing out maybe or
- 1:01:23it was just. AI mean he did.
- 1:01:25He basically said like it's just one of those things where they
- 1:01:28they have to talk about these ideas, right?
- 1:01:32That was yeah. And I mean, that's like they
- 1:01:33have to look at everything, talk about it.
- 1:01:37On stream, yeah. Well, officially.
- 1:01:40I mean, look how many things they've said before, right?
- 1:01:42Any press I I really. Feel like it's it's not going to
- 1:01:45happen. I mean, it's just it died,
- 1:01:47right? There I can, I can see the
- 1:01:49point, though. I mean, how it's, it's tough for
- 1:01:52some people to get I, I'm, I'm one of those people, right?
- 1:01:55I, I've got too many kids. I didn't pay attention in sex
- 1:01:59and back in the day. So I, I, I don't have as much
- 1:02:02time to play as I'd like. Like even tonight it took a
- 1:02:04bribe for me to be here for this outing.
- 1:02:09Yeah, space stat argument. Right.
- 1:02:10So go on. Maybe I've got an hour, maybe 2
- 1:02:13hours to play like two or three times a week.
- 1:02:17And it, it's good. I mean, it's a space SIM, right?
- 1:02:23So like that travel time is part of it.
- 1:02:25And we, I do enjoy that. And most people who are into
- 1:02:28this game obviously enjoy that. But then it's tough, like, you
- 1:02:31know, you, you joined your org and it's like, hey guys, what
- 1:02:33are we doing? And they're like, oh, well,
- 1:02:34we're all in Stanton at micro tech, you know, doing this.
- 1:02:38And I'm like, cool, well, I'm at Levski, so I'll be there as soon
- 1:02:44as I can. And then obviously you get in
- 1:02:45the strip, right? Fight your way through.
- 1:02:47And I know what it's gonna say about this, so hold on.
- 1:02:49Like it you're gonna fight your way through three or four
- 1:02:52different bugs just to get out of your hanger, and then you
- 1:02:54gotta fight with the bug to get the navigation to work.
- 1:02:58And then you go to jump and then hopefully the jump point
- 1:03:02actually functions properly and you come out and stand and then
- 1:03:05you get over there. And once that's all done, it's
- 1:03:07been at least like 30-40 minutes of all that stuff.
- 1:03:13And now you're, and now you're there.
- 1:03:14And then you die and you forgot to set your spawn.
- 1:03:20You're back at Lenski. And, and many times the reaction
- 1:03:23to that is, well, I guess I got to go to bed.
- 1:03:29So it, it, it is punishing. And I think that's what the,
- 1:03:32what the dev was saying too, is that, you know, they're, they
- 1:03:34have to have these, these conversations because they're
- 1:03:38trying to, and I know it's a dirty word.
- 1:03:39They're trying to make the game more accessible, but that it's a
- 1:03:44very delicate balance. I mean, I, there are definitely
- 1:03:48games that have been destroyed by becoming more accessible.
- 1:03:52I, I was always, I, I've, I love home world.
- 1:03:55If anyone's played that series before, like I, I love playing
- 1:03:58those games when I was younger. Homo three finally came out
- 1:04:02recently, which was like, yes, it's, it's been so long.
- 1:04:05It's so exciting. And all throughout the
- 1:04:08development process, they kept mentioning we're going to make
- 1:04:09it more accessible and, and they did, which meant it was garbage.
- 1:04:13And you know, it didn't do all the things that the original
- 1:04:17did. And then it, it, it failed, it
- 1:04:20collapsed. And I think they could do that
- 1:04:23here too. I saw a quote recently, I forget
- 1:04:26where it was, but talking about the insta travel, someone said
- 1:04:29once you have insta travel the universe just becomes a lobby.
- 1:04:34Yeah, right. Yeah, and it and I, I feel that,
- 1:04:38but I also feel the pain of of not being able to easily join
- 1:04:44your org for certain things. So I don't I don't know what the
- 1:04:47answer is there. Maybe the answer is suck it up
- 1:04:50and then I'm fine with that too, honestly.
- 1:04:52But there's they've got to have the conversation.
- 1:04:55We've got to talk about it as a community and and see what we
- 1:04:59can come up with. And maybe it is just, you know,
- 1:05:01you go to the clinic voluntarily euthanize yourself, you know,
- 1:05:06and you can be. Transported to.
- 1:05:07The other clinic, but you don't have you don't have your stuff.
- 1:05:10You can't claim your ship over there.
- 1:05:13I I don't know, you know, there can be downsides to that as
- 1:05:16well. I like the idea of using public
- 1:05:18transit, but also that's supposed to be another game
- 1:05:21loop, right? Like I don't want to take that
- 1:05:24out. Like we're trying so hard to
- 1:05:27create this systemic open world with, with all of this emergent
- 1:05:32gameplay. And then we keep shooting it in
- 1:05:37the back of the head while it's holding a little Bunny.
- 1:05:39You know, it's like, oh, we're going to have we're going to
- 1:05:41have fuelling in the game finally, because lips he's
- 1:05:44coming in and you're you're going to be running out of fuel
- 1:05:46constantly. And then it was like, actually
- 1:05:48we're going to increase the fuel, you know, the fuel reserve
- 1:05:51of each ship by like 4, you know, four times.
- 1:05:53Then we're going to cut the system in half and now we're
- 1:05:56going to sprinkle space stations all over the place.
- 1:05:59So really, you know, don't worry about it.
- 1:06:02So yeah, just that's, we just got to talk about it.
- 1:06:05That's all I'm saying. I, I, I agree.
- 1:06:08One thing I'll just say real quickly is that I think but a
- 1:06:11lot of stuff you, you pointed out is more of ACIG fixture
- 1:06:15stupid game. And CIG you have, you have the
- 1:06:18buttons. Please, please push the buttons.
- 1:06:20Like is there a game? Is there a mission out there
- 1:06:23that CIG has made that is less than 20 minutes?
- 1:06:27That is one thing like I wanted to touch on is that the the fast
- 1:06:31travel thing and everything and everybody being upset, like
- 1:06:34Duke's saying dying and stuff. If we didn't run into as many
- 1:06:38bugs as we did trying to get somewhere, right, The jumpgate
- 1:06:40to just just take the jumpgate for one example, right?
- 1:06:44Being spit Outback and standing at three times if we didn't run
- 1:06:48into all these bugs. Would it be not my fault?
- 1:06:50Not my fault, by the way. It's the game the.
- 1:06:51Travelling bee that bad? Really, if it worked
- 1:06:55consistently. And then maybe like the Genesis
- 1:07:00Starliner, the Kraken, the all these big ships that the focus
- 1:07:05is transport, give them a wicked quantum drive that makes them go
- 1:07:09four times as fast as an XL1 or whatever, right?
- 1:07:12Yeah. Make it make it quick so I
- 1:07:17don't. Know game breaking.
- 1:07:19The the the point is, is that there are solutions other than
- 1:07:23go jumping straight to, you know, instant transmission that
- 1:07:27I think CIG is jumping over. Yeah, so it feel, it feels like
- 1:07:32a Scopeland CI GS finding a a solution to a problem that
- 1:07:36doesn't exist. Oh yeah, you know what way to
- 1:07:40rehash? The past, I've not let it go.
- 1:07:44It still burns in my heart. Well, like you said, Murphy, if
- 1:07:48you know a big part of the delay in in that whole story is the
- 1:07:52bugs, right. So if the if they do allow a
- 1:07:56fast travel and that fast travel was literally it was, oh,
- 1:07:59you're, you're getting in a star liner and it's going to take you
- 1:08:02there, I think that could work. Give it even the exact same
- 1:08:07amount of time, right as like let's say the fastest drive in
- 1:08:09the game, just give it that. But it's a, it's not
- 1:08:14physicalized. There's so there's no travel
- 1:08:17bugs opportunities along the way.
- 1:08:20So someone could just, you know, click that, you know, pay a fee
- 1:08:23for it, leave, go go use the potty and get something to eat
- 1:08:29and come back and then be ready to play with their org.
- 1:08:32You know, something like that might work if like, you know,
- 1:08:36like we said, if it's really just all those bugs, then it
- 1:08:40doesn't need to be instant. It just needs to be hassle free.
- 1:08:46Yeah, and fast. I do have a a a bit of an
- 1:08:50opposing viewpoint on this. Brock, the Rabblord and then
- 1:08:53Wicket will finish it. So it's, you know, a lot of like
- 1:09:00carpool citizen, it's a lot of catching up trying to get to
- 1:09:02people. I saw a morphologist had
- 1:09:05something where it's like treat the treat bed logging like Med
- 1:09:10beds how they should Med beds are going to work where there's
- 1:09:13like multiple Med beds because you know, everyone wants the
- 1:09:18team bed logging back. But to effectively do that,
- 1:09:22excuse me, everyone has to bed log at the same time and
- 1:09:26everyone has to log back on at the same time.
- 1:09:28And like if the owner of the ship is like, oh, actually, I
- 1:09:32have something else I got to do, it's like, OK, well shit.
- 1:09:33Do do we just not play tonight? Like do we wait for him?
- 1:09:38Do we like what do we do? Like we all prepared to like do
- 1:09:40this big fun adventure all on the same ship because we all
- 1:09:43grew bed logged. Now are we all just going to
- 1:09:47respond back at our home location?
- 1:09:49So I think having an easy way for everyone to spawn onto a
- 1:09:55ship together, kind of just like gets the gets the ball rolling
- 1:09:59it, it cuts out that like 20 minutes of like, oh, hey, I'm at
- 1:10:03the space station, I'm here, I'm there.
- 1:10:04Like I got to claim a ship. And I understand like preparing
- 1:10:08is part of it, but it feels like everyone needing to drive to get
- 1:10:15to the event instead of just waking up at the event doesn't
- 1:10:20feel like that drastic of a of an ask.
- 1:10:23You're like, you see how it's? Easily exploited though right?
- 1:10:29Like explain it to me. Well if I can, if you're my
- 1:10:33party leader and I can log on to you and be insta travelled
- 1:10:36somewhere else, I can just pay someone money to let to have
- 1:10:41them let me and their party when they're somewhere else and you
- 1:10:45affect. No, no, that's not.
- 1:10:46I'm not saying, I'm not saying party leader.
- 1:10:47I'm saying you get onto like I get onto a Kraken and I pick one
- 1:10:53of the beds and I say, OK, this is one of my spawn locations.
- 1:10:57Like one of three, one of five, one of However, I log out and
- 1:11:03then next time I'm on, when the captain of that of that Kraken
- 1:11:07is on, I'm like, hey man, what's going on?
- 1:11:09Like what are you up to? Nothing.
- 1:11:10I'm just like hanging out and like Levsky, think I might get
- 1:11:14up to something later. You want to join me?
- 1:11:16It's like, yeah, sure, I'll be there in a SEC when you pop on.
- 1:11:18Then you're just you're a screw like beds.
- 1:11:20Beds are going to have to do something.
- 1:11:22Yeah, the. Gamify on the bed a.
- 1:11:24Little bit yeah. And it's it feels like it's not
- 1:11:28like I don't, I don't know, I don't, I don't give a shit.
- 1:11:30Like sometimes like you just want to like get in there and
- 1:11:33like play. And I don't want to be chasing
- 1:11:35the, the, the team or the org to try to get the kind of like what
- 1:11:39Duke was saying, like you got to spend 10 minutes here.
- 1:11:42And I'm not going to like factor bugs into it, but like spend 10
- 1:11:46minutes here, spend 10 minutes there, like trying to catch up
- 1:11:48with everybody. Then you got to ditch your ship.
- 1:11:50And now that like when tier one insurance is in, like, do I
- 1:11:53like, where do I ditch it? Am I going to be able to get
- 1:11:55back to that station later? Like it's just, it's just like a
- 1:11:58lot of a lot of like clumsy logistics that I feel like we
- 1:12:04don't necessarily need. Lord Nubis, what do you feel
- 1:12:09about this? Yeah, it's got to be a mechanic
- 1:12:16that is an instant and it's got to cost something either by
- 1:12:21autopilot like the like the spaceway mode concept or by
- 1:12:27killing your clone. But I, I think if it's too easy,
- 1:12:31you're not going to see the grandeur that is, you know,
- 1:12:35traveling across the verse and that that's going to, it's going
- 1:12:38to miss something. Yeah, I like travelling across
- 1:12:44the verse wicket, last word here on Insta travel.
- 1:12:48Great idea or fantastic idea? Well, let me preface this I'm
- 1:12:54I'm going to read something that I wrote in in our Guild disc
- 1:13:00Guild slash org for those purists org discord.
- 1:13:04When we were talking about this, this topic back and forth, there
- 1:13:08were several people, you know, giving their feedback about,
- 1:13:12about this and this is what I had to say.
- 1:13:15So I wrote and I just want to read it basically verbatim for
- 1:13:20Save It for Prosper. For the court.
- 1:13:23Yeah, for the court of public opinion later on when they
- 1:13:26proved me correct. So I wrote no instant travel
- 1:13:31ever, please. Lots of arguments or
- 1:13:34justifications for fast travel or arguments about time.
- 1:13:38That's valid. But consider your metric.
- 1:13:41This is all gauged against the current game, including all the
- 1:13:44jank and bugs. Elevator eats your ship?
- 1:13:47Time waste. Elevator eats you time waste.
- 1:13:50Unable to quantum to fill in the blank.
- 1:13:52Can't find my team? Party markers are not working.
- 1:13:55I can go on but think everyone gets the idea.
- 1:13:58Everyone knows this. You all play the game.
- 1:14:01Now consider we live in a game world that these issues are
- 1:14:04solved. We no longer need fast travel.
- 1:14:08I go on to say I've been playing Mmos for a very long time.
- 1:14:12All the quality of life slash fast travel are world killers,
- 1:14:16community killers, vibe killers. If you make the world
- 1:14:20irrelevant, you no longer need it.
- 1:14:22In fact, if fast travel is implemented in any form, it will
- 1:14:26be abused once in the game. It's here forever and everyone
- 1:14:31will want more of it. There will be arguments for less
- 1:14:34cooldown on fast travel, more ways to use fast travel.
- 1:14:38Example I need to fast travel my ship and gear to X.
- 1:14:43The argument will be it's QOL quality of life.
- 1:14:47I don't have time to play. Please make it easier to play.
- 1:14:51This is a very stupid argument. If you don't have time to play,
- 1:14:55I. Feel personally.
- 1:14:56If you don't have time to if you if you don't have time to play,
- 1:15:02you don't have time to play. Simple play when?
- 1:15:07You have. Time.
- 1:15:10I've said it in the in in an earlier post, but planning and
- 1:15:13logistics in this game will become a major strength for the
- 1:15:17guilds that can pull it off successfully.
- 1:15:21The distance in SC is a feature and should not be spoiled by our
- 1:15:25current bugs and problems. With SC in its current state and
- 1:15:29looking for workarounds, I say fix the problems and the
- 1:15:32workarounds like fast travel become irrelevant.
- 1:15:35Thank you. You know what I liked about that
- 1:15:38wiki defense? Rest.
- 1:15:39Defense Rest I I like that you call it a feature.
- 1:15:46I think that I think distance. Is a feature.
- 1:15:48Yeah, you're right. Think about it.
- 1:15:49Look, look, look at this way. Listen, people would have been
- 1:15:52fighting to the nail to get to take away fast travel in
- 1:15:55Starfield, and Bethesda wouldn't have spent all that time and
- 1:15:58effort to actually add in travel between between planets if they
- 1:16:03didn't think it was an important feature that people want in
- 1:16:05space games. If we don't need.
- 1:16:09If we don't need the space that our game inhabits.
- 1:16:12If we don't need to get out of the bed and take the elevator to
- 1:16:15the hangar. If we don't need the hangar and
- 1:16:18ATC, if we don't need the warp Dr. slash quantum drive to from
- 1:16:23X to to Y, from A to B. If we don't need all that, then
- 1:16:28why don't we just have loading screens?
- 1:16:31We can just pop into our ship, You know, pop out of our ship
- 1:16:35when we need to. Why have they spent all this
- 1:16:37time and effort to animate, to create these spaces, these
- 1:16:43environments and all this tech to make it, to enable it, just
- 1:16:47to fast travel away from it? I think it would.
- 1:16:52I think fast travel in any form will be the death knell for Star
- 1:16:57Citizen in one way or another. It may happen gradually or it
- 1:17:01may happen very quickly. I hope to God they don't ever
- 1:17:04implement it. Go fuck yourself, Duke.
- 1:17:07I I wanted it. I was just having the
- 1:17:09conversation. I personally don't want it.
- 1:17:12Listen, Duke, we heard you. It's.
- 1:17:13Recording. I mean I.
- 1:17:15I don't. I want it.
- 1:17:16I don't like. I want it too, yeah.
- 1:17:18We know we we pegged you broccoli, right, I think.
- 1:17:23You what? Casual.
- 1:17:25I I I think the. We pegged.
- 1:17:27Me, we pegged. You quickly.
- 1:17:29We all pegged you. I pegged you.
- 1:17:30Anubis pegged you. Wicked pegged you.
- 1:17:32Astro Puppy. He's new.
- 1:17:34Boy. Listen, listen, listen.
- 1:17:36As long as it's consensual, it's OK.
- 1:17:38But you know, you got to ask. Ask Broccoli first if he if if
- 1:17:41he wants to get pegged. Yeah, you know, I'll get in
- 1:17:45here. All right, boom.
- 1:17:48It's Overcoms radio. We're having fun here, baby.
- 1:17:50We're having fun here tonight. No 111 more thing I will say
- 1:17:54about this like if you want, if you want unattended travel, you
- 1:17:59know if they want to bring the the the Galaxy space liner in or
- 1:18:04they want to have some kind of travel system as long as it
- 1:18:07happens in game in game time. Yeah, that makes.
- 1:18:11Sense that's fine, you know, and if something happened like, you
- 1:18:15know, there's a lot of Mmos that have travel mechanisms.
- 1:18:18World of Warcraft have the Griffins.
- 1:18:20I mean they have other animals that fly, they have the boats,
- 1:18:24they have the undersea tram that goes from Iron Forge to
- 1:18:27Stormwind. You know arc agent it's day it
- 1:18:31had the Stagecoach right? That all happened in real time
- 1:18:35in the game. Well, if I log out, I can take
- 1:18:38the taxi cab to a station and it can travel me as I log out and
- 1:18:44so I won't get killed or anything.
- 1:18:46But when I log back in then I can be at my other place.
- 1:18:48I think that's cool. Yeah, but it would.
- 1:18:51But if you log in right away, you'd log in on the taxi, yeah.
- 1:18:54100%. So you think you should be able
- 1:18:56to do it and log out? There's ways, so you would say.
- 1:18:59There's ways to initiate travel that isn't instant and that
- 1:19:03doesn't break the reason to have the space.
- 1:19:06Listen, if we're already we want we, we barely have three systems
- 1:19:11right now and they're talking fast travel.
- 1:19:14They want to release 5 systems and a. 100.
- 1:19:17The, the, the, the big pie in the sky dream is 100.
- 1:19:22You know, if, if, if, if you're going to fast travel from system
- 1:19:26one to system 100. You know, whatever that
- 1:19:29mechanism is, it's a, for me, the game is.
- 1:19:33Over. I want slow travel.
- 1:19:35That's not the game, that's on my ship.
- 1:19:37I signed up for Yeah, well, I think I here's I think I made
- 1:19:42my. Here's an edge case that like
- 1:19:44I've been thinking about that I, I don't know, like there's,
- 1:19:48there's certain cases where I like, I feel like it's needed
- 1:19:50say I wake up on an Idris, right?
- 1:19:54And I don't have the permissions to go.
- 1:19:57I'm alone. The owner of the Idris is in
- 1:20:01Europe for the week. I wake up on it and I don't have
- 1:20:05permission to go to the pilot's seat.
- 1:20:06Like I'm locked out of pretty much everything.
- 1:20:09Do I just not play the game for a week?
- 1:20:12Do I in that case, like punch the door open Like there's
- 1:20:16there's got to be. I don't think that.
- 1:20:18There's got to be problem. That's a problem that needs to
- 1:20:21be solved. OK, those are mechanics that can
- 1:20:23easily be solved by the developers, but for right now
- 1:20:27that's already a a solved issue. Back before meshing and when we
- 1:20:30had ships where you can bed log off of if you didn't bed log, if
- 1:20:35you bed logged on somebody's ship back when it used to work
- 1:20:38and that ship was no longer in the universe because guys off to
- 1:20:41Europe and his and his Idris has not spawned in.
- 1:20:43You're just going to spawn back either at your home location or
- 1:20:46at your your last port of call. That's easily fixed.
- 1:20:50But that's teleporting. That is teleporting, but that's
- 1:20:56that's I mean, what what at at some point you have to be able
- 1:20:59to to to continue to allow to play Now if you if you want to
- 1:21:03have. Absolute.
- 1:21:04If you if if you absolutely want to not have that because that
- 1:21:07that's an edge case like you said.
- 1:21:09And I think in an edge case like that, there should be some
- 1:21:13mechanic to solve it, unless you think that maybe you you spawn
- 1:21:18in and you spawn in space where that last, that interest was
- 1:21:21last at. And now it's up for you to call
- 1:21:24for rescue. I could see that happening.
- 1:21:26But I mean, at some point, you know, it's, it is a game, it's
- 1:21:29not real. But then where do?
- 1:21:32You go, I mean, but that's, that's why I think like there
- 1:21:35should be 4 spawn locations that you can use.
- 1:21:39Like, you know, I log on and someone's like actually I don't
- 1:21:43really want to do this. I got to log off and you're
- 1:21:46stuck out there and because like that's it.
- 1:21:49Like you're just like, OK, that's it.
- 1:21:50I have to, I have to. I think it's a simple home
- 1:21:53location now. I think it's a simple solve.
- 1:21:55You either they either force spawn you back at your home
- 1:21:58location or they force spawn you at your last port of call.
- 1:22:02Now do you call that Portland? I guess you could, but I call it
- 1:22:05spawning. I mean it is after all a game
- 1:22:07and you actually have to start from.
- 1:22:09Somewhere real quick. Real quick.
- 1:22:10Yeah, 100% agree. But say I don't know and the
- 1:22:15captain's like delayed an hour, like there's there's going to be
- 1:22:17like situations where you are locked out of the game because
- 1:22:21of that. And like Idris persists, like it
- 1:22:23doesn't go away. It spawns in with you and you
- 1:22:27say, hey, on my Mobi glass, I'm actually all done here taking
- 1:22:32back to Morrison. It just feels like, I don't
- 1:22:36know, like you're kind of you bed logged for a reason and now
- 1:22:39it's gone. And like the whole thing with
- 1:22:41like group bed logging is that everyone has to bed log at the
- 1:22:44same time and they have to jump back in at the same time.
- 1:22:47It just feels like an unnecessary limiting factor to
- 1:22:53in to gameplay. That is, I think this is a
- 1:22:57problem That's, that's not, this is a good idea.
- 1:23:01It's a good thing, but it's not the problem they're trying to
- 1:23:04solve because the problem they're trying to solve right
- 1:23:06now is grouping out and. And I feel like that's a good
- 1:23:10idea, but it's one of those things where it'll eventually
- 1:23:12have to happen down the road. But yeah.
- 1:23:18Yeah, gripping up is always the biggest barrier of entry to this
- 1:23:20game. Well, the first the the the the
- 1:23:22first part they have to fix is being able to bed log on on on
- 1:23:26on someone else's ship. The first thing you have to fix
- 1:23:29is social tools that work. Well, I mean, we're also think
- 1:23:32we're also going to think about things like persistence, being
- 1:23:34able to log back in where you last were.
- 1:23:36You know, those those are all things that like, and This is
- 1:23:38why, like I said, it's this is a problem, this is a non, this is
- 1:23:43a solution looking for a problem like that.
- 1:23:45There's so many other things that are broken like get those
- 1:23:47done 1st and then maybe talk about the teleportation you.
- 1:23:52Know they need to fix the flight model first.
- 1:23:54Yeah, well. Every time he humbles us.
- 1:24:01Today's any metric they need to learn how to release a patch.
- 1:24:04First release a patch, fix the flight model.
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- 1:24:50Where's Atlantic? City let me gamble a little bit.
- 1:24:54This is. This is the reason give.
- 1:24:55Me some give me some loop. Back this is the reason why I I
- 1:24:58stay in Nick's 'cause it's the it's the, the, the Pine Barrens.
- 1:25:01So I'm I'm OK with living with the the Jersey Devil.
- 1:25:07There you go. There you go.
- 1:25:09Look, there's so this week is defense con we we haven't even
- 1:25:12touched. That's how large.
- 1:25:13This game is. The biggest event of the year.
- 1:25:15We haven't touched on Defense Con other than to shit on them
- 1:25:18for not releasing the patch in time, but we do have a Defence
- 1:25:21Con coming up. So I do like our episodes to be
- 1:25:25a little bit Evergreen, but sometimes you got to be timely.
- 1:25:28We have the Ironclad coming out, which we spoke a little bit
- 1:25:32about. What Is there another Drake ship
- 1:25:35coming? Out bulldog or bull Pitbull,
- 1:25:38what is it? Pitbull, Pitbull.
- 1:25:40That's what it is. I keep calling a pit bulldog and
- 1:25:42people got mad at me. I'm like, I'm glad somebody else
- 1:25:44got the the name wrong as well. Yeah, I'm here.
- 1:25:47I'm here. You've.
- 1:25:47Been you've been getting. You've been getting actually.
- 1:25:50I've been getting them actually. Actually, I'm used to it.
- 1:25:56Yeah, we're not going to spend time talking about that.
- 1:25:58Whatever. Snooze, Drake snub.
- 1:25:59Who cares, Whatever they they? Let's talk about the Starlight.
- 1:26:04Now there there aren't the Starlight we can talk about.
- 1:26:08It looks cool. We a little bit of refueling
- 1:26:10neither. Doesn't look like it's going to
- 1:26:12have that refueling stuff work. So it looks like it's going to
- 1:26:14be internal, it looks like. It kind of has its own big fuel
- 1:26:19pod, but it's sort of on its side in the middle of it.
- 1:26:22That's it. All right.
- 1:26:23I got to look at that again. Yeah, I, I, I maybe this is
- 1:26:28going to sound disrespectful, but it's such, it's such a.
- 1:26:31Oh, go for it. That's what we do here.
- 1:26:33That's a chubby little bastard. It's so, it's so fucking like
- 1:26:36big. It's not.
- 1:26:37It's not fat. I like.
- 1:26:39It because it's chewed, man. It's, it's a, it's like a puffer
- 1:26:42fish, you know, it's, it's just this, this big.
- 1:26:45He's a whole, oh Lord, he coming.
- 1:26:47It's just a very fat tea line, yeah.
- 1:26:50I like. You know, yeah, 'cause it's,
- 1:26:53it's deceptively big. It's like, oh, it looks pretty
- 1:26:55small. And then you, you look at the,
- 1:26:57the, where the, the seed is and it's like, holy shit, this thing
- 1:26:59is huge. It's not as big as you.
- 1:27:01It's not as big as you want it to be or hope it will be, but
- 1:27:03it's not as small as you think it would be.
- 1:27:05It's like AC2 or AC1 I should say.
- 1:27:07Well, it's like the front of the Star Lancer without, you know,
- 1:27:12just kind of squished in in the back.
- 1:27:14Yeah. And it it looks like it has two
- 1:27:16large fuel fuel pots that are mounted laterally in a line
- 1:27:23there. Interesting.
- 1:27:26Yeah, yeah. Now we also have an Origin
- 1:27:29fighter coming in. I miss.
- 1:27:33Mady, Mady and then the the. Tiburon.
- 1:27:37You're missing the Tiburon. The.
- 1:27:40Tiburon, Yeah, the the hammerhead shark.
- 1:27:43Freaking. Laser gunship, all look all
- 1:27:46really cool. Not really too many surprises
- 1:27:49here. I don't want to talk about the
- 1:27:50ships that are coming out. I want to talk about the ships
- 1:27:53that aren't coming out. I want to talk about
- 1:27:55particularly, as we mentioned last week, is our good friend
- 1:27:59Cosmic Kobo, who is not with us this week, unfortunately.
- 1:28:04I tried to get his mom on, but she's busy.
- 1:28:07But we were talking about Consolidated Outland and
- 1:28:12Consolidate Outland, a manufacturer that has been
- 1:28:15teased at with the Forge and gotten no love.
- 1:28:18Maybe they have some some Elon Musk remorse.
- 1:28:24Do you think he's that scared him away?
- 1:28:26They're like we. Can't they're like we went pull
- 1:28:27in on Elon and now? We put all our cards on.
- 1:28:32Put it all in and now? Now he's showing his true
- 1:28:34colors. Listen, listen.
- 1:28:39Matthew Musk there with Matthew McConaughey and Elon Musk having
- 1:28:44a baby is is a is a great with Silas Kroner.
- 1:28:46He's fantastic. But I can tell you, I can tell
- 1:28:49you why we don't have a CNOU ship.
- 1:28:51It's because all all the CNOU ships are either based off of
- 1:28:55the new ones are either based off of fabrication, ground
- 1:28:58extraction or base building. And we only have one of those
- 1:29:04three. Yeah, because we because we've
- 1:29:06got the what is it called the like there there's one that they
- 1:29:10showed off before. It's like the forge.
- 1:29:12The forge. I think it's what it is, the
- 1:29:14forge that right that. Kind of means seems.
- 1:29:16Like a dream. Yeah, that, that and that one,
- 1:29:19they need ground extraction, which I need Genesis, the new
- 1:29:22Genesis system in to to to actually work.
- 1:29:24And the other one's the pioneer. So it's like, it's kind of like
- 1:29:27how we have the, to a degree, the Kraken is sort of just the
- 1:29:33ironclad scaled up because a lot of the stuff that's in the
- 1:29:37Ironclad Assault and Ironclad are going to end up being in the
- 1:29:39Kraken. And how I'm pretty sure that the
- 1:29:42Liberator is sort of the precursor to the Odin that's
- 1:29:46coming out. It's just a lot of the stuff
- 1:29:48that they were planning with CNOU is all on things that just
- 1:29:51aren't available in game yet. So they're delaying until those
- 1:29:54are ready. And I and I got a.
- 1:29:57No, but they were cocky, yeah. They got, they got sorry.
- 1:29:59I just want to say they were arrogant.
- 1:30:02They got that swag, they got that swagger a little UN UN.
- 1:30:05We'll have this out by 2026. Christmas 2025 and then nothing.
- 1:30:12If only there were some. If only we had someone from CIG
- 1:30:15on the show that we could talk to.
- 1:30:17About that if you ask YouTube I'm I'm already the head of CIG
- 1:30:21so the amount of the amount of comments I get being being like
- 1:30:24stop stop doing lore and start losing the game.
- 1:30:27Yeah, get your shit together, man.
- 1:30:31I I like, I like, I like Consolidate Outland.
- 1:30:34Oh, who's this? What's what's going on here?
- 1:30:35We could. We could call Jens.
- 1:30:39You want to give yens a call. We can, yeah.
- 1:30:42You know, did you want to? Yeah, Duke, can you plug us in?
- 1:30:45See. If you we're, we're officially
- 1:30:47doing a bit now, but yeah, we'll do that.
- 1:30:50All right, All right, You don't. Wait, don't blow it.
- 1:30:54Yeah. What do you fuck Duke?
- 1:30:56You're fired. You just broke the 4th wall.
- 1:30:58I am. We have no walls anymore.
- 1:31:01Murphy, Jack, Hook hook us in. We're all couch.
- 1:31:05Well, unfortunately all our. All our lines are busy.
- 1:31:10All. Jesus Christ.
- 1:31:11OK, that's OK. We'll take a class later.
- 1:31:14Cofido. Bring, bring, bring, bring.
- 1:31:15I'll take care of it. They're all, they're all too
- 1:31:17busy trying to fix the 4A. That's why they're not here.
- 1:31:21Bring, bring. Yep, or advising against Hello
- 1:31:26scammers. Hello.
- 1:31:28Is this yen? Yeah.
- 1:31:29Is this yen from from Deutschland?
- 1:31:32Yes, yes, I am from Europe. Yen, I'm I'm here live.
- 1:31:38This is George Jabroni calling from open Comms radio and I'm
- 1:31:41here with some of the usual guys on the couch.
- 1:31:43We got wiki, we got Murphy, Jack, broccoli, Rob and Duke.
- 1:31:45Later we have a special guest with us at the Astro Pub Yens.
- 1:31:49We were wondering what this what's your problem?
- 1:31:52Why do you hate the Consolidated Outland?
- 1:31:56Well, they were designed by Dave, and no one likes Dave.
- 1:32:02Dave. Who's Dave?
- 1:32:04He's no longer here. What happened to Dave?
- 1:32:09You don't want to know all. Right, that was Jens fucking
- 1:32:14Flores from CIJ, everybody. Brilliant.
- 1:32:18Must have been he. Walked me into that one it.
- 1:32:20Was the same thing that happened to the guy who was designing the
- 1:32:23band of merchantmen, which so remember.
- 1:32:25So that guy left, right? And he took like, his whole team
- 1:32:28with them. Yeah, yeah, he took his fire.
- 1:32:30Where did they go? I didn't think they went to some
- 1:32:32game that already failed, I think.
- 1:32:36He went to Ubisoft. Oh yeah, so they.
- 1:32:41They went somewhere that's always failing I.
- 1:32:43Got Paul Jones. Paul Jones was promised his own
- 1:32:45game at Ubisoft and he brought a bunch of people with him and
- 1:32:49yeah, they they did. They jumped on on the exact
- 1:32:51wrong moment in Ubisoft's. Career.
- 1:32:54Ouch. Yeah.
- 1:32:56They just got immediately laid off.
- 1:32:58Is that what? Happened, I think, I think
- 1:33:00they've been working for a couple years and they got they
- 1:33:02got hoisted. I don't know what they were,
- 1:33:05what they were working on, but I assumed it was something that's
- 1:33:08similar to Star Citizen, but we've never heard anything.
- 1:33:10I didn't heard any rumors from it.
- 1:33:12I got my ear to the ground because I'm like, I'd love to
- 1:33:13see what Paul Jones is doing but I, I'm last I heard Paul Jones
- 1:33:17is looking for work so and he's moving back to Manchester.
- 1:33:21He was he was working on a Star Wars video game starring BB8.
- 1:33:26Maybe. Yeah.
- 1:33:29Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't play that,
- 1:33:31but I'd play one star. Chopper.
- 1:33:34Was a platformer. It was a platformer with.
- 1:33:37PBA, Yeah. Give me pretty sounded pretty
- 1:33:41cool. Give me give me Chopper any day
- 1:33:43and I'll play it like PBA can go suck it but someone build that
- 1:33:47game. You just want to.
- 1:33:49You just want to commit some. Genocide you.
- 1:33:51Want to commit some war crimes? What you're looking for?
- 1:33:53I mean, I mean, yeah. And be able to to cuss on Disney
- 1:33:57Plus. Oh yeah, Fairpoint.
- 1:34:02Fairpoint yeah. So consolidate Outland, we're
- 1:34:06probably not going to get anything.
- 1:34:09I mean, maybe Christmas. When do we think they're going
- 1:34:12to have Genesis in the game? 4/9 right?
- 1:34:15Hasn't been in 4-9. Is that the idea?
- 1:34:18Love it. If, if if if 48 releases the
- 1:34:21day, you know, maybe the latest tomorrow, as soon as 4/8
- 1:34:29releases, the talk for 4-9 will start so the 48 will be old and
- 1:34:34everybody will be wondering when the first evil cadi of four 9
- 1:34:38will come out so we'll. Probably next week, this
- 1:34:42Wednesday, Really. It's like a what, a week?
- 1:34:45Well, they said the next road map roundup is going to be first
- 1:34:48taste of 49. That's going to be the next. 1.
- 1:34:53I, I guess there's something to be said for rapid development
- 1:34:56now, because they seem to be really ramping it up and it to
- 1:35:00me. It.
- 1:35:01Makes me kind of hopeful. It makes me hopeful that that
- 1:35:04they, that they, that they're ramping up so quickly because a,
- 1:35:09that means there's more assets coming to, to, to the SC
- 1:35:14hopefully leaving squadron and then B, that means we're getting
- 1:35:19closer and closer to 1. Possibly, possibly.
- 1:35:25I mean, I am one of those guys who thinks they're just going to
- 1:35:27shadow drop Squadron 42 because at this point.
- 1:35:30Why the fuck now? They doubled down on.
- 1:35:32It just punch me in the Dick right now, all right, like like
- 1:35:35I've already I already I already I'm already a Titanfall fan.
- 1:35:40You don't have to like like just run over me with a car twice in
- 1:35:44a row. I.
- 1:35:47Why would that drop? Why?
- 1:35:50So Titanfalls tight shadow drops are great for companies that
- 1:35:54actually have games that have released and have fan fan base
- 1:35:57live. Hey, hey, hold on.
- 1:36:01Not so good for a brand new IP, a brand new IP that's coming out
- 1:36:05for the first time because you want to like actually like
- 1:36:09release something to you. You want to get like people who
- 1:36:12know to know your game exists. According to Chris Roberts,
- 1:36:16everyone knows. Chris Roberts, that was his
- 1:36:19point. When it comes to that, that's
- 1:36:20that's like the the last, what was the last marketing push for
- 1:36:24Squadron? It was 2023 I.
- 1:36:27Was there? I was there.
- 1:36:29I held the line. Yep.
- 1:36:31Fucking young fools. Dude.
- 1:36:32Yep. Yeah.
- 1:36:34Fucking eating that shit out so. Hyped.
- 1:36:37I was there. In the wrong, I left, I left my
- 1:36:38wife. I just say go do something,
- 1:36:41lady. And I went there with you guys.
- 1:36:43It smelled like sweat, smelled like gym shoes in that place.
- 1:36:47You know, it was, it was the. Duke spent money for the first
- 1:36:51time in. 10 years at that. Time, it was the most It was a
- 1:36:54very, very weird experience because I was there and I was
- 1:36:58talking with another content creator and someone stopped,
- 1:37:01turned around, they looked at me and said, wait, are you the
- 1:37:04Astro historian? They didn't see me because I was
- 1:37:06my back was facing them. They just heard me talk and,
- 1:37:09and, and recognized me by their voice, by my voice.
- 1:37:12And I was like, if I got to the point where people know me just
- 1:37:15by my voice, that is terrifying that someone can identify me
- 1:37:20just by my voice. And I realized that probably
- 1:37:22that person probably listened to me in the shower.
- 1:37:25That's you and Amaranth. But but I mean, the last time
- 1:37:31was was wasn't even was it 2024 that they did the the big like
- 1:37:35playthrough they did in Manchester?
- 1:37:37So like 2023 and 2024, the last time they did any advertising
- 1:37:42for squadron at citizen Con and it's been nothing since there's
- 1:37:46been so they need to to just at least release something to be
- 1:37:51like, Hey, remember this thing exists.
- 1:37:54So people go, oh, right, that thing exists.
- 1:37:57That's why I'm I'm so because because here's the thing, I
- 1:38:01absolutely do not want to the shadow drop.
- 1:38:03But knowing Chris Roberts, he absolutely would shadow drop.
- 1:38:07He'd just be like, oh, by the way, it's coming out two weeks.
- 1:38:10Enjoy. Yeah, I think they should.
- 1:38:14Now this show here we had some predictions, pretty much
- 1:38:19everyone had at this point had similar predictions.
- 1:38:23Wiki I remember you saying if they don't do something by March
- 1:38:26or at the latest April, it's not coming out.
- 1:38:29This year everybody had a very similar April ish May ish
- 1:38:33timeline. Here we are the night before
- 1:38:35defence gone. They can't even get the paths
- 1:38:37out. The Squadron 42 website is down
- 1:38:41and last time I checked at least, meaning there's probably
- 1:38:46an update coming for that. This would be the final moment.
- 1:38:52Yeah. And this is this show.
- 1:38:53Hopefully by the time this recording gets put on the on the
- 1:38:57tubes there, there's a patch out.
- 1:38:59If there's if by this point, if you're listening to this and
- 1:39:02there's not a 4.8 patch out and we do not have defense kind of
- 1:39:06happening, go outside. Touch.
- 1:39:09Grass and if you're you've waited long.
- 1:39:11And if you're in the future, still can can you call in right
- 1:39:14now and give us lottery numbers? And give us lottery numbers.
- 1:39:18Yeah, but do we think Squadro 42 is going to come out this year
- 1:39:25still? Just very quick one word
- 1:39:26answers. We'll start with Astropub.
- 1:39:28Astropub is Squadro 42 coming out in 2020. 6 yes.
- 1:39:33Whoa, Lord knew. This I will reiterate because
- 1:39:36you said one word answers potato.
- 1:39:41OK, that's his answer. That's his answer.
- 1:39:45It doesn't matter what you feel about it.
- 1:39:47You said one hard answer. He's he's switched the.
- 1:39:50Answer well the. The answer is the same, it's
- 1:39:52just I I would say to to. I can't say the full
- 1:39:56explanation, so I just have to say potato.
- 1:40:01Interesting, Lord Nubis. Potato, Potato, potato.
- 1:40:06I will say yes, it comes out in 2026.
- 1:40:09I will play it for approximately a month and a half and I'll go
- 1:40:13back to Star Citizen. Wow, Wicked 2026 Squadron 42,
- 1:40:18definitely, definitely. But you, I remember you saying
- 1:40:22if it's not up by April, it's not coming out.
- 1:40:26I'm flexible. Yeah, you are.
- 1:40:30Movie Jack Squadron 422026 No Yeah, boy.
- 1:40:37Naysayer. Broccoli, Rob.
- 1:40:41Go. Yup.
- 1:40:42All right, dookie. What do you think, baby?
- 1:40:45Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:40:48So it's just I'm going to join Murphy Jack because I can't, I
- 1:40:51can't leave our leader alone. So we got 3-4 Yas, 2 Nos and a
- 1:40:56potato. You want that kind of hard
- 1:41:00hitting journalism? You've come.
- 1:41:01To the I need this man. This is the place and and you
- 1:41:04should like, comment and subscribe.
- 1:41:07Oh, Oh yeah, all that stuff. If you made it this far, yeah,
- 1:41:10yeah. Give us give us one of those
- 1:41:11like comments subscribes. This is open comms radio.
- 1:41:14You start to see us in Colin show every What do we mean
- 1:41:17Wednesdays? Wednesday night. 9:00 PM Eastern
- 1:41:20Time, Aster Pub. What time do we meet at Central
- 1:41:23Time? 8 Central. 8:00 Central Time
- 1:41:29which? Is 7 correct?
- 1:41:30Time zone, it's 6:00 PM. Yeah, nobody could get out of
- 1:41:35here. Go go watch a sunset.
- 1:41:38Go go, go. Enjoy moderate temperatures year
- 1:41:41round, goddamn it. Yeah.
- 1:41:45You know, you know, it was, it was like 71 with a little bit of
- 1:41:48drizzle in the morning. You know, it's been nice, yeah.
- 1:41:52Happens that old. You're gonna.
- 1:41:53Would you say you had a golden shower this morning?
- 1:41:58Yeah, look, come, come back to me when it's when in the burning
- 1:42:00hot summer of of in in August when it's 73.
- 1:42:05Oh, that's why I've got solar panels.
- 1:42:09Good for you, Lord Nubis, good for you.
- 1:42:13Did you put those together? Do you have a whole like system
- 1:42:15there like a Nas setup? Or are you are you paying rent
- 1:42:19for the solar panels? No, no, no, no, no, I'm I'm
- 1:42:21buying them post market and putting them up myself.
- 1:42:26I kind of, that sounds like you kind of an electronics guy now,
- 1:42:30so you know. Yeah.
- 1:42:33How's it working out for you? You got old solar panels.
- 1:42:38Yeah, yeah. I mean, you could, you know, if
- 1:42:40you, if you put it together, you know how to swap it out.
- 1:42:42I mean, their ones are a little bit degraded, but it's fine.
- 1:42:46It still lowers my bills, you know, pay it.
- 1:42:49It pays for electricity for the car.
- 1:42:52New solar panels used to be like 10s of thousands of.
- 1:42:54Dollars, yeah. I mean, you can get stuff for
- 1:42:56like 100 bucks like per panel. Really from China?
- 1:43:00No, no, no, no, from like locally.
- 1:43:03Locally you got a lot of vendors who are no longer like
- 1:43:05Chinatown, a lot of installations, they're from
- 1:43:07China and they have a lot of stuff leftover.
- 1:43:10But you know, we're talking like LG panels and stuff too.
- 1:43:14So it's not just China. What?
- 1:43:18What country is LG? Korea.
- 1:43:20Is that Korea? Made in China.
- 1:43:23Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm going to read.
- 1:43:25I'm actually going to completely upon further review, my answer
- 1:43:30is completely wrong. It's not yes.
- 1:43:32It's not potato. It is, in fact, pumpkin.
- 1:43:36Oh, oh, pumpkin. OK, now.
- 1:43:38That is. Thanks for.
- 1:43:39Clarifying. Yeah.
- 1:43:41Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we're going to do on the
- 1:43:45show here, we're we're going to wrap things up very shortly.
- 1:43:47But before we do Duke Lado, you want to read some comments.
- 1:43:49Yeah, you know, occasionally we like to, but to give back to the
- 1:43:53community, give everyone a spotlight who might not have
- 1:43:55been able to actually join us on the show.
- 1:43:58We are on. Where?
- 1:44:00Where are we, George? We're on YouTube.
- 1:44:02We're on. Twitch, we're all over the.
- 1:44:03Place we're on some stuff that I still haven't even never even
- 1:44:06looked at before but it's. French it's the.
- 1:44:08French one, Yeah, anyway. On Geocities.
- 1:44:12And if you can't join us live, you know, leave, leave a.
- 1:44:14Comment We're on Penguin Town. And we'll we'll read it out loud
- 1:44:17here and we'll make fun of you. We'll agree with you.
- 1:44:21We might even threaten you personally.
- 1:44:22But so we had it was some really good ones, which is so at at
- 1:44:28vile vile Blight says great podcast.
- 1:44:31No citizen con, no guarantee squadron this year.
- 1:44:34But the Tiburon looks cool for money.
- 1:44:39But you know the important part there was great podcast.
- 1:44:43Yeah, I like that one. At ASOG 88, that baby Pitbull
- 1:44:48better have a quantum drive. I don't I don't think it's I
- 1:44:53don't think it's going to have one.
- 1:44:56I'm pretty sure that's definitely not that's definitely
- 1:44:58not happening. I don't think I don't think
- 1:45:03we're going to read that one. That's love this show.
- 1:45:07Thank you at Lethor. Oh, I know who that is.
- 1:45:12No, you don't at. He doesn't his comments.
- 1:45:14Barely now. Furious imp.
- 1:45:17What happened to the title? I think he's referring to the
- 1:45:22the intro. He's obviously a fan of the old
- 1:45:25intro. Oh yeah, we'll we'll edit that
- 1:45:30one out. Yeah, that's good.
- 1:45:34Bring back the old intro. Wicket.
- 1:45:36I'm sorry, do you want to say something?
- 1:45:37Wicket. Bring back the old intro, yeah.
- 1:45:41Get rid of the clown car song, yeah.
- 1:45:44You know, we're an episode like 14 or 15 or whatever we are now
- 1:45:48of the of the second season. I can't let it go.
- 1:45:52We'll never give up and never surrender this 'cause you got to
- 1:45:55understand that. OK.
- 1:45:57And. We got one more.
- 1:45:58This is. Very before wait, wait a minute,
- 1:46:02wait a minute, Astropub. When when we get done here, look
- 1:46:05at some of the earlier shows from last year just long enough
- 1:46:09to look at listen to the title, the intro title for on YouTube.
- 1:46:12You'll see what I'm talking. We're talking about the superior
- 1:46:15title intro. Yeah, I've I've I use my
- 1:46:18creative liberties as master of the show or whatever.
- 1:46:22I don't know. I don't know what my title.
- 1:46:23Master Blaster. Supreme.
- 1:46:26Supreme show leader? Yeah.
- 1:46:28Master Blaster, you're. The first one debate everybody,
- 1:46:30so master. Master.
- 1:46:31No, it's master. I don't know.
- 1:46:34Master. Yeah, Masticator.
- 1:46:36Masticator. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:46:41Anyway, we we I made a new intro.
- 1:46:45Had to be done. All I can say because I'm I'm
- 1:46:48looking through your your your your YouTube channel and the
- 1:46:51first thing I thought is the YouTube in me is like God damn
- 1:46:53y'all need to fix your thumbnails.
- 1:46:57Hey, hey, hey. I'm proud of those I can't.
- 1:47:00Tell you something, don't know what you're getting better at
- 1:47:02it, I'll say that. But but yeah, now trust me, it's
- 1:47:06it's the the never ending search of fixing your thumbnail so that
- 1:47:11the the almighty AI that runs the YouTube algorithm goes, yes,
- 1:47:16I shall ordain you with a new views.
- 1:47:19Here you go. Does it look at the thumbnail?
- 1:47:23It does. Well, it's.
- 1:47:25Interesting. You'll have to share.
- 1:47:27You'll have to share your. Knowledge with them, the very
- 1:47:30the very brief brief thing is it's the thumbnail gets you
- 1:47:33clicks, and the amount of clicks you get early on determines how
- 1:47:37much they want to promote it. Yeah, but I don't know what's a
- 1:47:40good. I can't say something.
- 1:47:43It's a lot of. Time.
- 1:47:43It has a lot of time. It takes a lot of time.
- 1:47:46There's some people who don't even.
- 1:47:47The thumbnails people don't realize.
- 1:47:49Yeah, the work that can go into a fucking thumbnail.
- 1:47:53Yeah. But I will say you've gotten,
- 1:47:54you've gotten better. It's gotten a lot better.
- 1:47:58Oh yeah, I think the same thing of the intro.
- 1:48:02No, I'm not the, I got to say. Laughable, I got to say, The
- 1:48:05shorts work. Yeah, enough, enough.
- 1:48:11Of this. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:48:13Come on, move on. Well there, there was just one
- 1:48:16more. It was a a gentleman called RN
- 1:48:191441. Is that the one for Cosmic Hobo?
- 1:48:23No, no, no, this is just someone just generally, you know,
- 1:48:27quality of life wish list type things.
- 1:48:30And he obviously this first, he he has a lot to a lot of
- 1:48:34feelings before even watching our podcast.
- 1:48:37He says, here are here are my top ten.
- 1:48:40One, fix the problems with the basic physics and hit detection
- 1:48:442. Fix the ridiculous D sync and
- 1:48:47interaction delay problems 3. Actually implement the gameplay
- 1:48:52systems that were sold. 4. Actually implement the AI and
- 1:48:59PCs that were sold. This guy's going to actually the
- 1:49:01hell out of us 5. I'm going to actually, I'm going
- 1:49:05to interrupt you real quickly and say I know RN 11441.
- 1:49:09I recognize that name in the in the avatar.
- 1:49:12And the only way I can respond to him is the way I've always
- 1:49:14responded to all of his posts, which is Sir, this is a
- 1:49:17whammers. Fair enough, fair enough.
- 1:49:27All right, we'll, we, we won't give him any more any more time
- 1:49:29tonight then because. It's fine, it's he didn't even
- 1:49:32watch the freaking video give. Him time the whole time all
- 1:49:34right all right actually implement the social features
- 1:49:36that any so-called MMO should have number six actually deliver
- 1:49:43the dedicated servers and modding support that was sold
- 1:49:47they sold the modding manual up to October 2023 for the
- 1:49:51dedicated servers Seven stop pushing regressions of
- 1:49:56functionality to live test things then deploy #8 actually
- 1:50:04deliver chapter one of three or whatever squadron 42 is now so
- 1:50:10you have a prayer of finishing the game within our lifetime. 9
- 1:50:16this one does not start with actually remove Aaron Roberts
- 1:50:20and put in someone who oh shit who can actually create and
- 1:50:25follow a road to this guy he's like this this guy is the the
- 1:50:30final boss of actually 10 stop using our money to put out
- 1:50:36marketing videos claiming CIG is the best at everything when they
- 1:50:40can't deliver working basics in year 14.
- 1:50:44I feel like that was a really good place for another actually,
- 1:50:46but but that's it. OK, Well, thank you at RN 1441.
- 1:50:53Sounds like a CEO, Sir. Sir, this is a.
- 1:50:56This is a wammers, Yeah, now you understand.
- 1:51:00Now you understand like. I almost.
- 1:51:03That was a lot. I mean actually.
- 1:51:07Come on to the show, buddy. Come on.
- 1:51:09They have open comms. You can come on.
- 1:51:12We. We will.
- 1:51:12Give you a platform to come on here and yeah and tell CIG
- 1:51:17exactly how you feel. And there's there's.
- 1:51:20Because that's what we want. Yeah, that's what we want.
- 1:51:23We want commenters who actually call into the show.
- 1:51:29Well done, Lord Nubis, Well done.
- 1:51:31Well done. Every everybody here today,
- 1:51:32everybody who called in. I love having you guys.
- 1:51:36It's a great time. Brock and Robin probably not
- 1:51:39going to be coming up to New York City, so wow, why not?
- 1:51:44Plans change. I was going to go for three
- 1:51:46days. I guess he's busy those three
- 1:51:48days now for work, so he's just going to come down and visit me.
- 1:51:52Gotcha. Also yeah my brother-in-law is
- 1:51:54staying with us so you would have been out on your ass.
- 1:51:56Shit, sorry about that. Well that's that's what a Guild
- 1:52:01gets you folks. If you want to join a Guild or
- 1:52:03an Oregon and get friends, don't do it any money.
- 1:52:08Join a fraternity or a religious organization.
- 1:52:11I started a whole Star Trek group.
- 1:52:15There you go. There you go.
- 1:52:17Well, Astropub, I don't know if you've listened open Comms rated
- 1:52:22before, probably not because you agreed to come on the show, but
- 1:52:25at the end of it, you're a special guest.
- 1:52:26So I will give you the last word to to say anything you'd like to
- 1:52:30say. Thank you for having me on.
- 1:52:34And you are all Mad Men. But this is the thing about
- 1:52:39about Star Citizen is that it collects a bunch of crazies and
- 1:52:42it puts us all in one room together.
- 1:52:44So it's kind of like a civil service.
- 1:52:47So make sure if you're watching this or listen to this right
- 1:52:50now, you subscribe, you like you follow, you leave a comment and
- 1:52:56a rating, whatever to keep, to keep all of the crazies in the
- 1:53:01insane asylum tier together so we do not come to your
- 1:53:04communities and tell you how to play League.
- 1:53:09Or magic. Thank you for the Astropub.
- 1:53:12We appreciate it. We're looking for two stars.
- 1:53:14Anybody giving ratings? We're looking for two star
- 1:53:16ratings. I find that's where the that's
- 1:53:19where the good food lies. So Astropub, what we usually do
- 1:53:22here is at the end of show we go around backwards and we ask
- 1:53:27everybody if there's anything they'd like to say to CRG, Chris
- 1:53:30Roberts or the people on the Internet.
- 1:53:32Our last guest today was Broccoli Rob.
- 1:53:34Broccoli Rob, is there anything you'd like to say to CIG, Chris
- 1:53:37Roberts or the people on the Internet?
- 1:53:41Social tools please. Same thing I say every week.
- 1:53:45Long time, long time, or for Jack, anything you want to say
- 1:53:50to CIG, Chris Roberts or the people on?
- 1:53:52Internet, yeah, with Rob's social tools and we need more
- 1:53:57player interaction, so that's right in there with social
- 1:54:00tools, right Susan? More.
- 1:54:03Fast travel. No, no fast travel, just more
- 1:54:06relying on other players for things, which hey, this patch,
- 1:54:10you know, it's probably going to be maybe it'll be a lot of that,
- 1:54:13you know, UE X is going to be going crazy probably so.
- 1:54:17It's good. Yeah.
- 1:54:21Wicked, Wicked. Anything you want to say to CIG,
- 1:54:24Chris Roberts, or the people on the Internet?
- 1:54:25Here it comes. Well, well, well, it's Andy
- 1:54:29Ross. You're in charge of marketing.
- 1:54:33I think start marketing. We should start seeing some some
- 1:54:38kind of hype happening for the squadron to be released later
- 1:54:41this year. Bro, you just gave me the
- 1:54:43thought that like, what if Chris Roberts has been the entire time
- 1:54:47intending to be marketing Squadron 42 and Sandy is just so
- 1:54:52bad at her job, but because they're married?
- 1:54:56He can't do anything about. It he can't do anything about
- 1:54:58it. So there's just no marketing and
- 1:55:01so. Hey, Sandy, do you think we're
- 1:55:04going to release that marketing next week?
- 1:55:09Oh, Chris, you know we're going to my mother's this.
- 1:55:11Weekend. Oh right.
- 1:55:12Oh, right. Right.
- 1:55:13It's just, you know, it's kind of a big deal.
- 1:55:18Yeah. Is she English?
- 1:55:20Is she British? Australian we didn't.
- 1:55:21We did this cross episode. We talked about this.
- 1:55:24Tonight, Oh Chris, I did that. Yeah, you did.
- 1:55:26OK, Colby, let's not do it again.
- 1:55:31In two weeks. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
- 1:55:33One more thing. Yeah, two weeks from now is the
- 1:55:3527th of May. It's a Wednesday.
- 1:55:38It'll be a show day. We'll be celebrating our our
- 1:55:42Lord and Savior Chris Roberts birthday.
- 1:55:44Yeah. And and the announcement of
- 1:55:47Squadron's release date. You know what Chris is?
- 1:55:51Chris is is just egotistical enough that he might actually do
- 1:55:54that. Is it really his birthday?
- 1:55:57Yeah, yeah, it's two weeks from now.
- 1:56:02The Sunday before is Aaron Roberts birthday or.
- 1:56:08Not Aaron Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts and then Julia
- 1:56:13Roberts. Birthday is the week after,
- 1:56:15yeah. We're the third.
- 1:56:16The third Roberts, whose sibling is actually Julia Roberts, just
- 1:56:19doesn't want to. The dynasty and then John
- 1:56:22Roberts, Supreme Court Justice. His birthday is in a few weeks,
- 1:56:25but we're not going to do anything for that one.
- 1:56:28We're going to let that one pass.
- 1:56:29That's just to piss off the commenters that happened to
- 1:56:32comment. They don't like us getting
- 1:56:33political. They don't like, I don't like us
- 1:56:36getting political. Listen, I'm going to get
- 1:56:38political and just say that the curtain parroter is doing
- 1:56:41nothing wrong, all right? Anybody who thinks that the
- 1:56:43curtain parroter is is absolutely wrong.
- 1:56:45No idea. Shit, dude.
- 1:56:47Great. I just, I just want to say
- 1:56:50before we, before we, before we stop the show, I just want to
- 1:56:54say a comment in the Twitch channel Meme Dog, one of our
- 1:56:58guildies, he's, he's bemoaning the fact it's 4.
- 1:57:02AM in his part of the world, fuck.
- 1:57:08Meme. Dude meme go to bed bro man.
- 1:57:13It'll it will be, it'll be there later, OK?
- 1:57:17It'll be there later. You don't have to stay up.
- 1:57:19It's not like it's not like it's going to disappear just because
- 1:57:21you're asleep. He doesn't have a job, so
- 1:57:24whatever. Cool.
- 1:57:28I hate that out him. Laura Nubis.
- 1:57:31Anything you want to say to CIG, Chris Roberts, or the people on
- 1:57:33the Internet? I want to say to the people on
- 1:57:35the Internet and to Astro Astropub, Astro Historian, thank
- 1:57:43you for being such awesome people.
- 1:57:45Thank you for coming on and we hope to still, you know, have
- 1:57:52this show going on for years and years and years after this game
- 1:57:55becomes a success. Well, like it's looking like
- 1:57:57it's turning into being, you know, obviously Star Wars Galaxy
- 1:58:00style. And you know or keep listening
- 1:58:05to the only, as you said, public service that can result in a
- 1:58:10sentence of community service. So, Astropub, is there anything
- 1:58:17you'd like to suggest? COG Chris Roberts of the people
- 1:58:19on the. Internet, please, please return
- 1:58:22my calls. All right?
- 1:58:23Like I've been trying to call for the last 10 years and you've
- 1:58:26never picked up. Please, in all honesty, I'd love
- 1:58:31to, if very serious right now, please tell me something or
- 1:58:38tell, tell us something about Squadron 42 because the, the,
- 1:58:41the, the inmates are getting restless and I don't know how
- 1:58:43long we can all handle not knowing if it's going to even
- 1:58:46release this year. Hey Ben, data drop two weeks
- 1:58:53from today. Hope.
- 1:58:56Here's hoping and. Foreseen.
- 1:58:59Well, Duke, we did it. We did it all on our own, you
- 1:59:03and me. No help, all by our thousand
- 1:59:05years. Yep, that's the two of us. 1000
- 1:59:07years Duke Lato and. Jar and Duke together forever.
- 1:59:12On the radio waves. How many are you in your shower?
- 1:59:15Just the two of us. Well, Duke, you know what to do
- 1:59:20now. Yep.
- 1:59:22Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke,
- 1:59:25Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke.
- 1:59:31Duke, Duke, Duke, Duke.