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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is taking stock with Kathleen Hayes and Pim Fox
- 0:05Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio the Rio Olympics gold medals and swimmers
- 0:12Speaker 1: telling stories. But let's not forget us gymnasts as well
- 0:17Speaker 1: as the other athletes who managed to pull off great
- 0:20Speaker 1: feats of sporting expertise. Is that what NBC has been
- 0:25Speaker 1: able to do. Here to tell us more, Jerry Smith,
- 0:27Speaker 1: media reporter, Bloomberg News. He can be followed on Twitter
- 0:31Speaker 1: at Jerry F. Smith. Great to have you with us, Jerry,
- 0:34Speaker 1: thanks for being here, Thanks for having me. So do
- 0:37Speaker 1: you think that the our ratings, Now, I was gonna
- 0:40Speaker 1: say our ratings like NBC's tell us about the ratings
- 0:43Speaker 1: that NBC has been able to generate with their coverage
- 0:47Speaker 1: of the Olympics and the business of advertising, how that
- 0:51Speaker 1: all works together. Sure. So the ratings NBC's Olympics ratings
- 0:56Speaker 1: on the brad on its broadcast channel are down about
- 0:59Speaker 1: seventeen invent so far this year compared to four years ago,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and they're down even more about among eighteen to forty
- 1:07Speaker 1: nine year olds, which is that demographic that advertisers really
- 1:10Speaker 1: want to reach. So, you know, there's a lot of
- 1:13Speaker 1: different theories for why that is. I mean, you could
- 1:15Speaker 1: argue that Netflix, for example, four years ago, had half
- 1:19Speaker 1: as many subscribers as it does today, so it's a
- 1:22Speaker 1: much more popular. Uh. Snapchat was still in its infancy
- 1:25Speaker 1: back in two twelve. There's just a lot more entertainment
- 1:28Speaker 1: options for people than there was four years ago. And
- 1:32Speaker 1: another theory is that NBC for the first time put
- 1:35Speaker 1: all of the Olympics online more than six thousand hours,
- 1:39Speaker 1: and what that might have done is actually deluded the
- 1:42Speaker 1: ratings on the traditional television broadcast, which is where most
- 1:46Speaker 1: of their advertising revenue still comes from. All right, well,
- 1:49Speaker 1: if that we if that's the case, uh, would NBC
- 1:54Speaker 1: have to make good for the Uh, I don't know
- 1:58Speaker 1: what you would call it the guarantee east of ratings
- 2:01Speaker 1: that advertisers thought they were buying. Yes, yeah, NBC says
- 2:05Speaker 1: that they actually set aside enough extra advertising during the
- 2:09Speaker 1: Olympics to make the advertisers whole, because they guaranteed the
- 2:13Speaker 1: advertisers they would reach a certain number of viewers. And UH,
- 2:17Speaker 1: during the first week at least, they were falling short
- 2:19Speaker 1: of those guarantees. But looking forward, you know, the ratings
- 2:23Speaker 1: being down does raise a question about whether NBC can
- 2:27Speaker 1: continue to make the same sort of advertising revenue and
- 2:30Speaker 1: profits that it did this year and that it has
- 2:33Speaker 1: in the past. With the ratings being down this year,
- 2:36Speaker 1: and if you're looking at those, Olympics are going to
- 2:40Speaker 1: be in the Asian time zone, which is uh not
- 2:44Speaker 1: as advantageous as this year in Rio, which was only
- 2:47Speaker 1: a one hour time difference from New York. So there
- 2:50Speaker 1: was the ability to show more of the events live
- 2:53Speaker 1: this year, and this has added importance because of the
- 2:56Speaker 1: price that NBC's parent company, Cast paid for the exclusive
- 3:02Speaker 1: US broadcast rights to the Olympics all the way through
- 3:05Speaker 1: twenty thirty two. They paid twelve billion dollars. That's a
- 3:10Speaker 1: lot of money. It is a lot of money and Comcast,
- 3:13Speaker 1: which owens NBC is making a really big bet on
- 3:17Speaker 1: the Olympics, and a lot of other media companies have
- 3:19Speaker 1: made similar bets about the value of live sports because
- 3:23Speaker 1: right now audiences are becoming more and more fragmented, and
- 3:27Speaker 1: the thinking has been the one sure thing that's still
- 3:29Speaker 1: going to get large numbers of of live viewers is
- 3:32Speaker 1: live sports. And NBC did still dominate the television landscape
- 3:37Speaker 1: for the past two weeks with their Olympics coverage, but
- 3:41Speaker 1: it is the ratings are down from four years ago,
- 3:44Speaker 1: and it does raise the question of what what's going
- 3:48Speaker 1: to happen in future Olympics. What do we know about
- 3:51Speaker 1: the viewership of NFL, you know, uh, National Football League
- 3:56Speaker 1: as well as Major League Baseball would have been the
- 3:59Speaker 1: trends there tell us about some of the demographics that
- 4:02Speaker 1: these the broadcasters are facing. Yeah, what's really interesting is
- 4:06Speaker 1: that in some sports the fans are actually getting older. Um.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and the NFL have both seen the
- 4:14Speaker 1: average age um increase about four to seven years, so
- 4:18Speaker 1: their audience is actually getting older. And what happened with
- 4:23Speaker 1: the Olympics is the ratings for that younger demographic, the
- 4:26Speaker 1: eighteen to forty nine year olds, actually they watched less
- 4:30Speaker 1: of the Olympics than the overall population. So, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 1: it does raise the question of there's just more entertainment
- 4:38Speaker 1: options for those younger audiences. NBC did something really interesting
- 4:42Speaker 1: this year where they had a Snapchat channel and they
- 4:46Speaker 1: asked BuzzFeed to run their Snapchat channel, and the thinking
- 4:49Speaker 1: is that they could entice more young viewers who are
- 4:52Speaker 1: on Snapchat to you know, check out the Olympics. On television,
- 4:57Speaker 1: and that's really I think going to be a bigger,
- 5:00Speaker 1: a bigger part of their strategy going forward, where a
- 5:03Speaker 1: lot of that that next generation of television viewers doesn't
- 5:07Speaker 1: immediately go on television to to watch the Olympics. Is
- 5:11Speaker 1: there some is there some way to kind of judge
- 5:14Speaker 1: which events did really well on the during the Olympics,
- 5:18Speaker 1: like the US gymnastics. Yeah, I think the big events
- 5:23Speaker 1: where generally the events that have the big American stars
- 5:27Speaker 1: like Simone Biles for example. Right, the gymnastics did did well. Uh,
- 5:32Speaker 1: the swimming did well, but it didn't overall, the Olympics
- 5:37Speaker 1: were down this year and we will have to see
- 5:40Speaker 1: how NBC approaches that going forward for future Olympics. I
- 5:43Speaker 1: want to thank you very much for spending time with me.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Jerry Smith is our media reporter for Bloomberg News. You
- 5:49Speaker 1: can follow him on Twitter at Jerry F. Smith. Talking
- 5:53Speaker 1: about Comcast and NBC shares a Comcast down a little
- 5:56Speaker 1: bit more than a dollar share right now. This is
- 5:59Speaker 1: Bloomberg