Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Jeff Holidays Failed Defense of Benpai - Victim Shaming Galore

Transcript

Jeff Holidays Failed Defense of Benpai - Victim Shaming Galore · Brett Keane and Eve Show

• 0:38
  But this shit come on fucking stomach again.
• 0:41
  Never eat a fucking again. Pray for all my sin.
• 0:44
  I don't feel no pain again. Fucking quick.
• 0:47
  Come on fucking stomach again. I don't need a fucking get
• 0:50
  myself enough for all my sin. Never feel no pain again, ever.
• 0:56
  What I eat then I must be nothing nothing, nothing.
• 1:00
  What I eat then I must be nothing, nothing, nothing
• 1:03
  nothing. What I eat then I must be
• 1:05
  nothing, Nothing, nothing, nothing.
• 1:07
  What I eat, but I must be nothing.
• 1:15
  All I need to fucking smoke while fucking walk, drink
• 1:19
  another fucking coke who just make me want to choke on my
• 1:22
  stomach. I like smoke.
• 1:24
  No that's not a fucking joke. Clean my play.
• 1:26
  I'd rather crook extra shit like a bad blood mentally.
• 1:29
  All I do is rot. Feels like I've been fucking
• 1:32
  short. Fuck this, love.
• 1:33
  Only my Lord, you're so fat. You're so.
• 1:37
  I know, Tats. We're so fat.
• 1:39
  We're so fat. From what I eat, then I must be
• 1:43
  nothing. Nothing.
• 1:45
  From what I eat, then I must be nothing.
• 1:47
  Nothing. From what I eat, then I must be
• 1:50
  nothing. From what I eat, but I must be
• 1:54
  nothing. I don't know why.
• 2:04
  Makes me wanna fucking die. All I do is fucking cry.
• 2:08
  You won't see me either. I ain't hungry.
• 2:10
  Eat no steak. Want no bake for your cake?
• 2:13
  Fuck them bitches. They.
• 2:17
  All fake. Must be nothing, nothing,
• 2:29
  nothing. What I eat, then I must be.
• 2:31
  Nothing, Nothing, Nothing from what I eat, then I must be
• 2:34
  nothing. Nothing from what I eat.
• 2:37
  Then I must be. Nothing.
• 2:56
  All right, y'all? Finally, finally.
• 3:05
  We're fucking back yo poop balls.
• 3:07
  Poop balls indeed, yo. Poop balls indeed.
• 3:10
  Holy fuck. There's been a there's been a
• 3:13
  night, yo, there's been a night to be on YouTube or a night not
• 3:17
  to be on YouTube. Holy fuck.
• 3:21
  Well, we're back. It's it's working.
• 3:26
  At least it's, it's finally working again.
• 3:30
  Holy shit, Holy fucking shit. Fuck YouTube, right?
• 3:37
  Fuck it, like right up the butt. Holy shit.
• 3:44
  Well, here we are, guys. Here we fucking are.
• 3:49
  We're back. YouTube's been having issues, so
• 3:53
  we weren't able to stream earlier, but you know what?
• 3:57
  This, this is this, this is going to be a better stream.
• 4:00
  Yep, it's going to be a better stream than it would have been.
• 4:04
  Wait, do I have a different chat showing up on the screen stream?
• 4:08
  I have AI, have the wrong chat, whatever.
• 4:11
  You know what? Oh, Nope.
• 4:14
  There we go, fucking catching up.
• 4:16
  OK, Holy shit. All right, how's everyone doing
• 4:20
  tonight? Hope everyone is doing well.
• 4:25
  I'm a little frustrated. Little frustrated, you know had
• 4:30
  to had to do a bit of work to to get this shit back up also in
• 4:37
  case the in case in case that happens again guys, I'm also
• 4:45
  live over on D live, so I'll put the D live link in in the chat.
• 4:53
  It's also in the description all right.
• 4:56
  If anything happens to this stream, you can go over there
• 4:59
  and watch it. All right, I was going to do it
• 5:01
  on Twitch, but we're going to be talking about some triggering
• 5:05
  subjects tonight and I guess someone pointed this out to me.
• 5:08
  I should probably start my interviews and whatnot with like
• 5:13
  a a trigger warning of sorts. Oh my God, trigger warning SJW
• 5:18
  yeah, whatever. We're we're legit talking about
• 5:21
  some like traumatic subjects, OK.
• 5:24
  And it can be, it can be difficult to listen to, all
• 5:29
  right, even even on my end, It's, it's, you know, I, I can
• 5:35
  only imagine other people in the chat.
• 5:37
  So, yeah, the, the topics we will be discussing today involve
• 5:43
  sexual assault, date rape and abuse and other, other subjects
• 5:51
  like that. Yeah.
• 5:53
  So keep that in mind. If, you know, if that sounds
• 5:58
  like the kind of thing that you're not down for, then I
• 6:02
  guess go watch something else. I can't wait to sleep to this.
• 6:09
  Yeah. I mean, I mean, you, you've
• 6:15
  you're you're a veteran. I I take it you've seen some
• 6:17
  things, you know, take it. You, you, you've you've seen
• 6:22
  some fucking crazy shit. Yeah.
• 6:29
  All right, yeah, this shit's nothing, yo, compared to what
• 6:33
  security monitor lizard has seen, all right, Not to
• 6:39
  trivialize the experiences of the of the victims at all.
• 6:45
  It's it's a joke, guys, Y'all get it, all right?
• 6:48
  Y'all get it? It's it's fine.
• 6:57
  And here we go. OK, guys, here we are.
• 7:03
  Here we fucking are going to be, you know, going to be going to
• 7:09
  be addressing some shit, all right?
• 7:12
  I knew this was going to come. I knew.
• 7:14
  I knew it was coming, All right? I did those interviews.
• 7:18
  Ever since I, I mean, since before I did those interviews, I
• 7:21
  knew people were going to, you know, people are going to act
• 7:25
  uncharitably, uncharitably. People are going to, you know,
• 7:29
  attack me. I hoped they wouldn't attack the
• 7:34
  victims, but unfortunately that does tend to happen.
• 7:42
  So for those of y'all that don't know, last night Jeff Holiday
• 7:52
  went on Pimp monks, the, the, the wood or whatever.
• 7:56
  And I, I just want to say there, there, there, there were a few
• 8:02
  people on that, on that stream. It was, it was Pimp Monk, it was
• 8:08
  Shabisky, it was Missy Anne. It was someone who I believed to
• 8:13
  be a, a friend of ours, mine and Annie's and a friend of
• 8:17
  Underhaven Burnt toast, who I, I can't really hold her too
• 8:23
  harshly for the things that, that that she may have said
• 8:26
  during that stream because honestly, from what I can tell,
• 8:30
  it looks like she was blindsided and just brought on, well, you
• 8:38
  know, along with Jeff so that Jeff could, you know, say all
• 8:41
  his shit. And so I look, I'm, I'm willing
• 8:49
  to talk to burnt toast again. We've had her on under Haven.
• 8:54
  She's been friendly. We've I've not had an issue with
• 8:57
  her ever. I am fully aware that the way
• 9:05
  Jeff painted me last night, as well as the victims to someone
• 9:10
  who doesn't know the full story could maybe look a little bad.
• 9:16
  So we're going to address some shit, guys, and oh, there it is.
• 9:20
  OK, we're going to address some shit.
• 9:22
  We're going to take a look at the stream from last night.
• 9:27
  All right, I'm going to show you portions, but first I want to
• 9:33
  talk about something that I'm not going to show you.
• 9:36
  All right. And the reason I'm not going to
• 9:40
  show you is because I think it's disgusting and dishonest.
• 9:45
  However it's out there if people want to go look.
• 9:51
  But one of the most I, I, I guess what Jeff viewed as the
• 10:01
  linchpin in his defense of Ben, because let's all be very clear.
• 10:06
  That is exactly why Jeff Holiday went on the wood.
• 10:12
  It was to go and it, it, it was to go defend Ben Pie.
• 10:22
  All right, because Ben is too much of AAAA coward to defend
• 10:26
  himself. Ben won't address this at all
• 10:29
  himself, all right? He has to have his his friends
• 10:31
  go do shit for him. Now, Jeff Holiday claims that he
• 10:34
  actually told Ben not to, not to come on, which, OK, I don't
• 10:43
  believe that Ben was going to go on either way.
• 10:47
  I I do not believe that for a second.
• 10:54
  Yeah, like a Ben has showed no inclination towards, you know,
• 11:00
  wanting to address this in any way except for in in in pimp
• 11:06
  monks chat. A couple times I've seen him
• 11:09
  just say oh, people in their dumb false accusations.
• 11:13
  Oh, and of course, the only way he wants to address this is just
• 11:17
  the one of the other ways he'll address this, sorry, is by
• 11:20
  retweeting really old TJ tweets about fucking.
• 11:25
  Don't believe all victims, don't believe all women.
• 11:28
  False rape. False rape accusations exist,
• 11:32
  OK? Like, I'm sure false rape
• 11:35
  accusations do exist. I'm sure that happened.
• 11:41
  But we've already read some statistics on this dream about
• 11:45
  how just how rare they are. All right.
• 11:54
  In in fact, fuck, I I I forgot to.
• 11:57
  You know what? I want to go over that shit
• 11:58
  again. You know what?
• 12:00
  I'm going to read something else first.
• 12:02
  Chess. While I'm reading that, can you
• 12:03
  send me the other statistics? Because I want to.
• 12:05
  I want to look at that after I read this article.
• 12:10
  But yeah, OK, so let me get back to what I was talking about
• 12:14
  that. So the linchpin, it seems, in
• 12:17
  Jeffrey's defense of Mr. Benjamin.
• 12:21
  All right, Seems to be the fact some DMS, actually some
• 12:28
  screenshotted DMS, of which I should start by saying don't
• 12:36
  even contradict anything within the what?
• 12:47
  Sorry, Rose Black. I'll look at that in a second.
• 12:51
  I got to ignore the chat for a second.
• 12:54
  So, yeah, DMS. All right, Which contradict
• 12:57
  nothing in the witness's testimony.
• 13:00
  I want to repeat that. OK, I'm getting distracted.
• 13:03
  I can't get distracted by this shit.
• 13:04
  All right, the linchpin in Jeffrey's argument for Mr.
• 13:14
  Benjamin. All right, again I want to
• 13:16
  stress this are DMS which do not contradict in any way the
• 13:25
  stories of the victims. That being said, what was in
• 13:32
  these DMS was basically both Amina and Taylor after the trips
• 13:44
  were or they were both assaulted basically.
• 13:52
  Well, basically flirting with Ben, you know, acting all sweet
• 13:56
  with Ben, you know, talking really sexual.
• 14:02
  Again, I'm not going to show this, but there were a couple
• 14:05
  clips of Taylor, some little tiny like little short little
• 14:10
  video clips that I guess she sent to Ben while they were
• 14:13
  together of her being like I miss you or her being like, oh,
• 14:19
  the things I want to do to you or some some shit like that.
• 14:21
  I don't I don't know. And and Adm apparently of of
• 14:27
  Taylor implying that shit that she would like to try fucking
• 14:34
  Ben on LSD because they already did it high on weed and it was
• 14:39
  good. So I'll, I'll address these
• 14:46
  specifically, but then I have a broader thing I'd like to take a
• 14:49
  look at. But specifically, like both of
• 14:57
  the victims said, they continued a relationship with Ben
• 15:02
  afterwards. They you know, they may have
• 15:10
  like clearly had sex multiple times with Ben that that doesn't
• 15:16
  mean that assault didn't happen, not in the slightest.
• 15:23
  And they talked about how, you know, their relationships would
• 15:25
  kind of go back and forth. They didn't talk as much about
• 15:28
  like the the the lovey dovey parts of their relationship.
• 15:32
  But why would you at this point? Why would you?
• 15:35
  Oh, this was really sweet or oh, I remember saying this to Ben or
• 15:39
  I remember, like, why would you want it?
• 15:41
  Like, honestly, what pisses me off is the fact that they showed
• 15:47
  that shit because I don't think Taylor wants to see a video of
• 15:54
  her being like, I miss you so much Ben or whatever.
• 15:58
  I don't think that's helpful for someone who's still processing
• 16:01
  what they went through. And I know Jeff thinks that's
• 16:05
  some great refutation. He he he thinks that this is
• 16:08
  like that, that that's the nail in the coffin, right, clear.
• 16:13
  Clearly, clearly this can't be. It is dark.
• 16:19
  You're absolutely right. That is hell of fucking dark.
• 16:22
  Like imagine like having a watch some shit of of of before you
• 16:28
  realize that you were being abused by someone and and you
• 16:31
  were still under their spell. I, I, I bet you my dad could not
• 16:38
  to bring it to my trauma again, but I, I, you know, I've
• 16:41
  experienced a lot of fucking trauma.
• 16:43
  I bet you my dad could bring you videos or could, could find dig
• 16:50
  out videos of me as a little kid being like, I love you so much,
• 16:53
  daddy. I love you so much and you're
• 16:58
  amazing. Yeah.
• 17:00
  Sometimes abuse victims don't realize they're being abused in
• 17:03
  the moment. And sometimes they have really
• 17:06
  weird connections, really weird attachment attachments to their
• 17:09
  abusers. That absolutely fucking happens.
• 17:14
  But all right, let's take a look at something.
• 17:20
  I I I I want to read this, OK? Because don't don't just take my
• 17:24
  word for it that this is very complicated and that, you know,
• 17:30
  a lot of women, again, do continue having relationships
• 17:36
  with men who have mistreated them, men who have assaulted
• 17:39
  them in one way or another, and that this is going to explain
• 17:44
  why. All right, here, let's Nope.
• 17:53
  There we go. OK.
• 18:01
  What? Oh, you know what?
• 18:03
  Here to give me this one. There we go.
• 18:05
  That was better. OK.
• 18:07
  Why assault victims stay in touch with attackers in light of
• 18:12
  Weinstein defense? By the way, I just want to make
• 18:15
  it clear in case anyone is, is unaware, the exact defense that
• 18:20
  that that Jeff is using right now for Ben is the exact same
• 18:25
  defense that Harvey Weinstein's lawyers used.
• 18:29
  All right, let's let that sink in for everyone for a second.
• 18:34
  All right, again, why assault victims stay in touch with their
• 18:47
  attackers in light of the Weinstein defense?
• 18:51
  The downfall of Harvey Weinstein brought forth not only a tidal
• 18:56
  wave of accusations against the producer and other powerful men
• 19:01
  in Hollywood, but also a shift in the way many think about
• 19:06
  sexual assault. The accusations, amplified in
• 19:09
  the public sphere by the Me Too movement, forced many in the
• 19:12
  country to rethink stereotypical notions of rapists as violent
• 19:17
  strangers in dark alleys, instead acknowledging that many
• 19:21
  assaults are committed by someone known to a victim.
• 19:24
  Now, as Weinstein's defense attorney plan to bring to light
• 19:30
  dozens and dozens of loving emails sent sent to him by the
• 19:37
  wait. OK, sorry.
• 19:39
  Now, as Weinstein's defense attorneys plan to bring to light
• 19:43
  dozens and dozens of loving emails sent to him in the
• 19:47
  aftermath of the alleged sexual assaults, experts explained, the
• 19:51
  public will once again have to reckon with their
• 19:53
  misconceptions, But this time, misconceptions about victims.
• 19:59
  The reactions of victims are often very different from what
• 20:01
  we anticipate, Elizabeth Gel Geljic Jaglik Jaglik Elizabeth
• 20:10
  Jaglik, PhD in psychology, professor at New York's John Jay
• 20:16
  College, told NBC in a telephone interview Wednesday.
• 20:21
  I think there's the expectation that somebody will come forth
• 20:24
  right away, which is not the case.
• 20:27
  They expect them to be immediately traumatized.
• 20:29
  Sometimes it can take years for someone to realize it was rape.
• 20:34
  Defense attorney Damon Cheronis said that his team will use the
• 20:40
  emails to counter the accusations by the women with
• 20:45
  their own words where they describe loving relations,
• 20:49
  sensual encounters with Mr. Weinstein.
• 20:52
  All right, I, I, I, for anyone who watched the stream last
• 20:56
  night, the defense attorneys of Harvey Weinstein, their, their,
• 21:05
  their whole thing. Their defense was to counter the
• 21:09
  accusations of the women with their own words by describing
• 21:15
  their loving relations and sex sensual encounters with Mr.
• 21:19
  Weinstein. The trial for Weinstein, who is
• 21:28
  charged with five felony counts related to two women, including
• 21:32
  two counts of predatory assault, began Wednesday.
• 21:36
  Six women, including the two involved in the charges, are
• 21:40
  expected to testify that Weinstein sexually assaulted
• 21:43
  them during opening arguments. Chernosis presented emails from
• 21:48
  the two of the women. Miami Haley Haley and a woman
• 21:55
  ABC News is not naming because she hasn't publicly come
• 21:58
  forward. Mimi's was Weinstein's
• 22:05
  production assistant and she accused him of performing
• 22:09
  forcible A forcible sex act on her in 2006.
• 22:12
  OK. The emails presented in court
• 22:15
  included messages seeking jobs, wondering whether Weinstein
• 22:20
  would be in Los Angeles for one woman's birthday, and chatting
• 22:23
  about Broadway, Hawaii. At one point, according to
• 22:29
  Chernosis asked Weinstein to fly her to London for several days
• 22:33
  after the allegedly the the he allegedly after he allegedly
• 22:38
  sexually assaulted her. Ternosis said this indicated
• 22:43
  that they were in a comfortable relationship and that the
• 22:47
  accusers were trying to have it both ways.
• 22:50
  Experts who spoke to ABC News and have studied sexual assault
• 22:54
  disagreed. Jeglich said while victims
• 22:59
  respond to sexual assault in a variety of ways, some do
• 23:03
  continue or begin a relationship to help them cope with the lack
• 23:08
  of control they felt during the assault.
• 23:11
  Let me repeat that. Some do continue or begin a
• 23:17
  relationship to help themselves cope with the lack of control
• 23:21
  they felt during the assault. If they can now conceptualize
• 23:28
  this as a relationship, they can feel they have control, whereas
• 23:33
  before they didn't feel they have control.
• 23:36
  She said that while such a response is not uncommon,
• 23:40
  there's no data on exactly how often it happens.
• 23:48
  But other victims who don't want to acknowledge that it's rape
• 23:53
  will maintain that it was something that happened
• 23:57
  consensually or as part of a relationship, according to
• 24:01
  Jaglik. Acknowledging that it is rape
• 24:04
  can be something that is really painful, she added.
• 24:08
  A meta analysis conducted in 2016 published in the US
• 24:12
  National Library of Medicine examined 26 studies involving
• 24:18
  5917 female rape survivors and found that 60% didn't
• 24:27
  acknowledge the incident as rape. 60% many described the
• 24:35
  rape as bad sex or miscommunications.
• 24:39
  The meta analysis found. On average, there are more than
• 24:44
  four 433,000 rape cases and sexual assault victims or sorry
• 24:51
  rape and sexual assault victims aged 12 years or older in the
• 24:56
  US, according to the Rape and Abuse and Incest National
• 25:00
  Network. Most are women.
• 25:03
  Of those assaults, 51% of of female victims report being
• 25:08
  raped by an intimate partner and 40.8% by an acquaintance.
• 25:14
  While statistics vary among organizations, RAINN cites that
• 25:21
  one out of every six women will become a victim of an attempted
• 25:25
  or completed rape in their lifetime.
• 25:28
  The National National Sexual Violence Resource Center say
• 25:31
  that one in five women will be raped, and rape, according to
• 25:36
  the NCNSVRC, remains one of the most underreported crimes.
• 25:42
  We, I mean, we all know that I read some, I'll look at some
• 25:49
  statistics afterwards because yeah, it is extremely under
• 25:52
  reported. Most women don't want to fucking
• 25:54
  come forward. Most women are afraid to most
• 25:56
  women don't want to like acknowledge it in their own
• 26:02
  heads. They, they, they, they don't
• 26:03
  want to, like, they can't cope with the idea that they had
• 26:09
  that, that level, they were violated to that level, that
• 26:14
  they had that much control taken away from them.
• 26:18
  So they, they, they, yeah, they rationalize and try to be like,
• 26:25
  oh, well, it, it, it must, you know, yeah, we're in a loving
• 26:28
  relationship. It's fine.
• 26:29
  It's fine. Nothing fucked up happened.
• 26:33
  It's fine. And it's very clear to me that
• 26:38
  that's exactly what happened with both of these victims.
• 26:47
  They describe, you know, and, and they, they, they, they
• 26:51
  describe, you know, not, not really knowing how they felt
• 26:58
  about it, going back and forth, being in, in a relationship with
• 27:03
  him, but like constantly going, going back and forth, having
• 27:09
  like weird, him having like weird emotional outbursts or
• 27:13
  weird moods that would, that would last like, you know, weeks
• 27:19
  or some shit where, where Ben is just like in a terrible mood and
• 27:22
  it's everyone's job to fucking console him.
• 27:25
  Maybe there was some fucking stuff in between that wasn't as
• 27:28
  bad. But yeah, obviously there's
• 27:32
  going to be shit that he's going to do to keep you roped in, to
• 27:39
  keep you. Yeah, I, I, I don't know, guys.
• 27:56
  Yeah, obviously the guy is going to use whatever, whatever power
• 28:00
  he has over the woman to keep her thinking fondly of him.
• 28:05
  I mean, this is very clearly what Harvey Weinstein did.
• 28:12
  He had the, the power over these women.
• 28:17
  He had power over their careers. He was well known in Hollywood.
• 28:27
  Like are are, are you going to say like you could maybe say
• 28:30
  that these women that were victims of Harvey Weinstein or
• 28:33
  maybe acting in some self-serving ways or, or didn't
• 28:36
  have the best judgement at all times.
• 28:39
  But that doesn't excuse the person who was exploiting that
• 28:45
  power that he knew that he had over people.
• 28:56
  It's still fucked up. You can say all you want that
• 29:00
  people, you know, people might have made some bad decisions.
• 29:07
  Why do you think victims end up blaming themselves when someone
• 29:11
  takes advantage? Because it's like, oh, maybe I
• 29:15
  maybe I fucked up. Maybe I put myself in this
• 29:17
  situation. Maybe it's my fault.
• 29:24
  It's not your fault when you put your like you put yourself in a
• 29:28
  situation and, and someone takes advantage, they're still
• 29:34
  culpable. They're still to blame for their
• 29:37
  own fucking actions. All right guys, I, I don't know
• 29:47
  anything about this Vash thing. If if anyone finds a screenshot
• 29:50
  of that, feel free to send it to me, but I, I'm, I'm not.
• 29:54
  Yeah, someone earlier was right. Like the the every conversation
• 29:57
  turns to Vosh. I love Vosh, but like, not
• 30:01
  everything needs to be about Vosh.
• 30:03
  All right, it's a we'll, we'll talk about it later.
• 30:07
  I'll look into that later. All right, I I have no idea.
• 30:14
  Let's continue reading this. Fontes said the defense's
• 30:24
  arguments surrounding the emails could not only be potentially
• 30:30
  harmful to the victims on the stand, but to other victims
• 30:33
  deciding whether to come forward.
• 30:35
  Absolutely. In fact, that's the whole point
• 30:37
  of this defense, as I'll get into a little later, it confirms
• 30:43
  the fear that all victims had have, that they will not be
• 30:46
  believed and that they were responsible in some way for the
• 30:49
  assault, Lisa Esfante's PhD, an international expert on sexual
• 30:55
  assault and intimate partner violence, told ABC News in a
• 30:59
  telephone interview. It could have a silencing
• 31:02
  effect. That is exactly the intent
• 31:06
  behind this. That is exactly why this is
• 31:10
  being done. That's why the lawyers used it.
• 31:16
  That's why Jeffrey's using it like Jeg Lick.
• 31:22
  Fantez said it's not uncommon. So this is the second person
• 31:26
  they interviewed, by the way, based on this, another expert on
• 31:28
  this, Fantez said it's not uncommon for a victim to contact
• 31:32
  their assailant after the assault, especially if the
• 31:34
  person have some has some sort of power over their career.
• 31:37
  Exactly. And, and, and it can be there
• 31:41
  can be different versions of this.
• 31:42
  Don't just say like, Oh, well, these people weren't working for
• 31:45
  Ben, you know, again, he was a, a, a, a well known podcast host
• 31:53
  with a lot of influence and a lot of notoriety.
• 31:57
  And that can allow someone to to have like a that person
• 32:02
  basically has all the fucking power in the in the
• 32:04
  relationship, especially when they're when, when, when they're
• 32:08
  all so flaunting around how much money they have and flexing that
• 32:10
  every 5 minutes, as both the fucking victims so far said,
• 32:14
  like Flauna, Oh, this is what it's going to be like when
• 32:17
  you're with me. Oh, look how much money I have.
• 32:24
  Many of us have experiences of difficult bosses and we put up
• 32:27
  with them because we don't feel like we have a choice.
• 32:30
  We need the job. Fontes said this is a very
• 32:33
  familiar experience, so it should not be difficult to
• 32:35
  understand. And as to whether or not she
• 32:39
  thinks people understand it, Fontes wasn't so sure.
• 32:41
  I think if explained property properly, the majority of people
• 32:46
  could understand it. Will they understand it?
• 32:49
  I have no idea. And again, this analogy here is
• 32:55
  like it. It might not be the most fitting
• 32:57
  for this, but it's still a similar dynamic.
• 33:02
  There's power dynamics at play. There's, you know, people with
• 33:10
  people in positions of power over other people, There's
• 33:15
  people that have more influence and notoriety.
• 33:21
  This isn't just two people in a relationship.
• 33:23
  And it got kind of toxic. So yeah, this, this whole thing.
• 33:32
  I, I, I, I recommend people check it out, look into it
• 33:36
  because there's, there's a lot of, there's a lot of data on
• 33:38
  this shit. This is not out of the ordinary
• 33:45
  behavior that we're seeing from the victims in this case at all.
• 33:50
  This absolutely happens. And Jeff thinking that, you
• 33:54
  know, his, his, his, him coming out with those DMS like they're
• 33:58
  the trump card. Well, I guess they are the trump
• 34:01
  card. They're just as effective as
• 34:03
  Trump. Good job.
• 34:07
  They're just as inept and and and weak and limp wristed
• 34:12
  because again, they don't contradict anything in the
• 34:14
  victims stories. None of them denied that they
• 34:17
  had relationships with Ben afterwards.
• 34:19
  And if you knew a little bit about psychology of abuse
• 34:25
  victims, and there's so much more on this guys.
• 34:28
  There is, there is so much more that goes into like this is just
• 34:32
  like a cursory, you know, like, like this was made to be
• 34:38
  digestible by the, by the public, right that this article,
• 34:41
  but there is a shit ton of research.
• 34:44
  As someone who's been in therapy for, for trauma and abuse, a lot
• 34:51
  of this matches up with shit that I've, I, I, I already knew
• 34:55
  and, and you know, talked about with therapists.
• 34:59
  When I, I try to understand certain behaviors of myself that
• 35:03
  I was like, you know what, why do I keep going back?
• 35:06
  Why do I keep going back to him? Why do I keep, you know,
• 35:10
  allowing people to treat me this way?
• 35:13
  Why do I feel like I have this connection?
• 35:15
  Like I like, I need to, like, you know, sometimes someone just
• 35:19
  has that power over you and it's fucked.
• 35:24
  It's fucked. When they take advantage of it,
• 35:27
  when they use it to manipulate you and silence you, it's
• 35:33
  absolutely sickening. All right, so that all being
• 35:56
  said, let's take a let's take a look at that stream from last
• 36:01
  night. All right, let's let's let's
• 36:03
  jump into that stream. Hang on.
• 36:12
  I actually don't have it pulled up because I totally fucking
• 36:15
  forgot to pull it up. Here we go got pin monk.
• 36:24
  There we go. All right here it is, the stream
• 36:33
  from last night, and I just want to say look.
• 36:38
  Oh, the stats, the stats, the stats.
• 36:40
  Thank you, Chess. So I am a little all over the
• 36:44
  place tonight. The, the the the bullshit with
• 36:48
  YouTube was kind of really annoying.
• 36:50
  OK, here. Yeah.
• 36:55
  I'm going to go over these stats that Chess sent me and then then
• 36:57
  we'll look at the video. All right.
• 37:00
  OK, so, so and Chess has been posting this stuff on her
• 37:04
  Twitter, so we can, we can just take a look at it there.
• 37:06
  All right. Only one in 10 women who have
• 37:11
  been raped will report it. That means if you were a rapist,
• 37:14
  you already have a 90% chance of getting away with it.
• 37:18
  The amount of falsely reported rapes is only 5%.
• 37:22
  That means for every five people that are falsely reported, there
• 37:28
  are nine. Wait, for every five people that
• 37:36
  falsely reported, there are 95 that reported it and 900 that
• 37:41
  were unable to report it. All right.
• 37:46
  For every 1000 victims, only 13 will go in front of a
• 37:50
  prosecutor, and out of that, only seven will see a day in
• 37:54
  court. The court is not fun.
• 37:56
  They will get attacked for wanting attention, for asking
• 37:59
  for it. They'll be told they're all
• 38:00
  lying all together. Yep, very fucking true and it
• 38:06
  happened and we watched it happen with the Weinstein and
• 38:08
  Cosby cases. Out of all cases that go to
• 38:12
  court, only 18% end in conviction.
• 38:15
  That only leaves A1 in 1000 reported cases that will end in
• 38:21
  a conviction. The Me Too movement was not
• 38:24
  started to protect people who are being falsely accused.
• 38:26
  It was started to help those who would not be listened to.
• 38:33
  Look at look at this, look at all the, all these, all these
• 38:35
  rape victims that go without justice and, and the one that
• 38:38
  might get some justice. These are the numbers we're
• 38:43
  dealing with. 51.1% of women who are sexually assaulted were by
• 38:49
  someone they were intimate with. 40.8% were by an acquaintance
• 38:55
  leaving the low 8.1% by someone they did not know.
• 39:03
  All right, all right, So guys, I, I, I, I know I've read this
• 39:10
  shit before, but like it. The facts have got to be out
• 39:13
  there, all right? You don't believe it, Go look
• 39:16
  at, go look up these statistics yourself, OK, Go look up these
• 39:20
  statistics. The court system is fucked.
• 39:23
  The any chance of women getting justice is is is almost none.
• 39:32
  It is a fucking travesty how rape victims are are treated in
• 39:37
  this goddamn country. And we're supposed to buy the
• 39:40
  narrative that like, Oh my God, oh, there's just a rash of women
• 39:44
  just falsely accusing, falsely accusing even when multiple
• 39:48
  women are coming out with similar stories.
• 39:50
  It's all false. It's all bullshit the fuck out
• 39:54
  of here, all right? It's.
• 40:07
  Going to be fun. Y'all ready?
• 40:08
  Y'all ready? OK, I'm ready.
• 40:09
  I'm going to take a look. I'm going to take a look at this
• 40:13
  stream. I've time stamped several little
• 40:15
  points that I want to respond to.
• 40:18
  Let's get through this as quick as we can, OK?
• 40:21
  Because there's a lot of bullshit in this.
• 40:31
  OK. Oh, where's the other?
• 40:48
  Oh, there. God damn it.
• 40:51
  There we go. That's better.
• 40:54
  All right, so here we go. So one of the reasons that this
• 40:58
  has to be addressed at this point is because.
• 41:00
  Oh, Oh yeah, and by the way, I want to make it clear I've
• 41:03
  already watched this entire fucking God awful stream and
• 41:07
  they look, they called my stream awful and boring and whatever
• 41:10
  and and obnoxious whatever. No, genuinely, this, this stream
• 41:14
  was painful to watch. And maybe it's just because I I
• 41:18
  cannot stand listening to to the victims get get shit on like
• 41:23
  this. I, I, I can't stand hearing
• 41:27
  this, this self-righteous ass Jeff Holiday act like he, he,
• 41:34
  him and his fucking dipshit squad have the moral high ground
• 41:38
  in anything. It was painful.
• 41:41
  But you know what? I did my due diligence.
• 41:43
  I watched the whole God damn thing.
• 41:45
  Because unlike these people, I'm willing to watch the streams
• 41:50
  that are criticizing me. All right?
• 41:52
  Pitmunk has already bragged that he doesn't and won't watch the
• 41:55
  streams about that that that I did about him or any of these
• 41:58
  streams about Ben. A lot of these people seem to be
• 42:02
  acting on hearsay based on what they've heard of my streams.
• 42:07
  I don't even know if Jeff has watched them to in their
• 42:11
  entirety. I don't know.
• 42:15
  But yeah, let's, let's respond to this point by point.
• 42:19
  OK, let's do this. There is a problem on the
• 42:23
  Internet and that problem is usually parasites.
• 42:26
  You know, people like Jamie Dark, you know, parasites who
• 42:29
  will try and take advantage of a of a certain type of drama and
• 42:33
  then try and make a profit off of it or make a name for
• 42:36
  themselves. And they have now done this in
• 42:39
  the case of two women levying accusations towards our dear
• 42:43
  friend that. So wait, I, I love how I, I,
• 42:46
  I've done this. So, OK, so I'm taking advantage
• 42:51
  of the victims and I did this twice.
• 42:53
  All right, Look, I, I, I, I'm just going to state this right
• 42:59
  off the bat because, and I'm, I'm not going to respond to it
• 43:01
  again because it's, it's really fucking tiresome.
• 43:06
  The reason I did this is because I saw the way in fact people
• 43:13
  like Jeff Holiday were attacking Alicia, harassing her, shitting
• 43:22
  on her, asking her impossible questions the minute she fucking
• 43:27
  came out. I did this because I watched for
• 43:33
  too damn long as Ben has bullied his way around the fucking
• 43:38
  Internet as he's bullied other creators, he's bullied women and
• 43:43
  and people that he's come in contact with and how his friends
• 43:49
  bully his victims. You want to believe that I'm a
• 43:57
  parasite that I'm just doing this because hey, I'm going to
• 44:00
  get some clout. First of all, I haven't made any
• 44:03
  money at all really off of any of this.
• 44:09
  I mean, I got some stream labs in the in the first stream I did
• 44:11
  about Ben, but not a lot since and I don't really expect them.
• 44:15
  I don't ask for them. I'm not going to ask for them
• 44:18
  while I'm doing this shit. In fact, I keep the fucking
• 44:22
  alert thing turned off so I can, if I want to read them at the
• 44:26
  end, maybe I will, but I'm not like, and what?
• 44:31
  Oh, oh, I, I gained some subscribers off of this.
• 44:35
  I get my subscriber count went up.
• 44:38
  OK, my subscriber count was going up anyway.
• 44:42
  And I'm not going to apologize for gaining subscribers while
• 44:46
  I'm talking about this, but if you're really going to be so
• 44:50
  uncharitable to make the assumptions, make these
• 44:53
  assumptions about someone, you don't know that.
• 44:55
  Oh, they must just be doing it for the, the clout.
• 44:57
  I, I don't really know how I could convince you otherwise.
• 45:01
  I, I, I really couldn't, right? I can't show you inside my head.
• 45:05
  I can't show you my intentions, what I believe in.
• 45:10
  I can only tell you the facts and I can tell you all.
• 45:14
  Another fact is I haven't been at least for the most part, for
• 45:20
  the last couple months. I wasn't streaming about this
• 45:23
  non-stop. In fact, for a few weeks I I
• 45:26
  didn't even talk about this shit at all because I just wanted to
• 45:29
  focus on my own content. I've talked about this when I've
• 45:34
  needed to, and I've kept my mouth shut when I've needed to.
• 45:37
  People want to criticize how I may have done that for a stream.
• 45:40
  I don't know that it was handled the best way.
• 45:43
  I don't know whether or not I'm handling any of this the best
• 45:46
  way. I'm one content creator trying
• 45:48
  my best to use my platform to get a message out there that I
• 45:53
  think people need to fucking hear because I seem to be the
• 45:59
  only one who's willing to actually talk about this.
• 46:02
  And that is why I'm doing this, because I don't see anyone else
• 46:08
  doing it. If, if, if fucking Repsy on or
• 46:15
  Stevie Wolf or whoever the fuck wants to fucking like, oh, Yep,
• 46:22
  I'll, I'll, I'll can, I'll take this.
• 46:25
  I'll, I'll, I'll handle this. You know, there's other people
• 46:27
  who I know are, are, are better at dealing with these situations
• 46:31
  than I am. I didn't, I, I didn't do this
• 46:35
  because I thought I would be the best person to break this story.
• 46:39
  I would be the best person to bring these accusations to
• 46:44
  light. No, I did this because no one
• 46:48
  else would. That's it.
• 46:50
  No one else would. I fully expected someone else
• 46:52
  to. I've expected someone else to
• 46:55
  start talking about this other than me since I did that.
• 47:00
  No one's done that up until now. And until someone you know who
• 47:07
  I, I, I believe will actually sufficiently see this through
• 47:11
  starts talking about this and dealing with this, I'm not going
• 47:14
  to stop. And you can have whatever
• 47:17
  fucking narrative of me, you like it, it honestly doesn't
• 47:20
  really make a difference for me. People that you know are already
• 47:25
  going to be uncharitable to towards the victims, of course
• 47:27
  are going to be uncharitable towards me as well.
• 47:30
  I, I, I fully expected that. I expected that before I did
• 47:34
  this shit. I knew people were going to
• 47:43
  fucking accuse me of cloud chasing.
• 47:45
  I don't care. I don't care about my
• 47:47
  reputation. I don't care if I end up
• 47:52
  completely losing my entire fucking following from this.
• 47:59
  I just want the victims stories to be fucking heard.
• 48:03
  You want to give them a platform, Ben?
• 48:05
  Jeff, how about you pimp? You want to give the victims a
• 48:09
  platform to go on your show and tell their story.
• 48:16
  I know you said you'd bring anyone on who who wanted to come
• 48:18
  on, but some tells me if the victims came forward to you, to
• 48:23
  your channel with their stories, they'd be getting a shit ton of
• 48:28
  pushback like they have been from almost everybody on this
• 48:32
  panel with the exception of burnt Toast.
• 48:37
  Every one of these people, Shabisky probably to the to the
• 48:41
  to the a less much lesser extent, but pretty much all
• 48:45
  these people have been bullying and harassing and shitting on
• 48:49
  Alicia ever since she first came forward.
• 48:51
  Why the fuck do you think that the victims don't feel safe
• 48:55
  coming on your fucking channel to tell the fucking story?
• 49:03
  I don't want to be doing this shit either.
• 49:06
  I want to do my fucking podcast. I want to do my politics
• 49:10
  streams. I want to do my gaming streams
• 49:14
  and I, I, I, I, I never want to hear fucking Ben's name again,
• 49:19
  or any of these fucking. I don't want to hear from these
• 49:20
  people again. I don't like dealing with them.
• 49:24
  I was perfectly content to just not watch drunken peasants not
• 49:28
  pay attention to it. Just let it be.
• 49:34
  But this is more fucking serious.
• 49:42
  He acted inappropriately. Now there is a problem with
• 49:47
  this, not just narratively, but evidence wise as well.
• 49:52
  Witness testimony is evidence and I'm, I'm gonna get so
• 49:55
  fucking annoyed by Missy Anne nodding her empty fucking head
• 49:58
  like yes, yes, yes she did. I, I just want to point the fuck
• 50:04
  out that like Missy Anne adds nothing.
• 50:06
  Nothing, except for when she interjects about herself, which
• 50:11
  we'll get to in a second. So.
• 50:17
  I also I. Probably need to mention this
• 50:19
  too real quick. I don't get paid by DP.
• 50:21
  The only time I ever get made any.
• 50:22
  That's fine, I don't care. DP was one time PJ paid me.
• 50:24
  Don't care, no one ever paid. Me any money.
• 50:26
  You don't need to be paid by by Ben for him to be, you know, use
• 50:33
  it using his influence over you in one way or another.
• 50:37
  You don't need to be paid by Ben for him to be manipulating you
• 50:40
  in one way or another. OK.
• 50:43
  Or maybe you're just defending him because you don't see a
• 50:47
  problem with his behavior. I don't know.
• 50:52
  Don't know. No money whatsoever.
• 50:56
  Yeah, I don't care whether or not you're paid by him.
• 50:58
  Doing this because he's my fucking friend.
• 50:59
  Sure there's going to be a bunch of assholes out there being
• 51:01
  like, well Jeff is obviously just an attack dog for bed.
• 51:04
  No, it's called. Wait that see again, you don't
• 51:07
  need to be paid. You're saying?
• 51:08
  Oh, he's just your friend. Yeah, he's your friend.
• 51:11
  So that's why you're as a attack dog.
• 51:13
  Yeah, you're because yeah, 'cause he's, he's not gonna come
• 51:16
  on and address this himself. Friendship, motherfuckers.
• 51:21
  All right. God forbid you defend your
• 51:23
  friend. Oh no, I.
• 51:24
  Don't understand that shit. I don't understand that kind of
• 51:27
  fucking narrative where people are like, well, if there's
• 51:29
  somebody who has counter evidence to this sort of thing
• 51:31
  or a counterpoint of view, obviously they're just an attack
• 51:33
  dog or they're being like. Counter evidence or bullshit?
• 51:37
  All right, look here. I'm.
• 51:38
  I'm gonna get to here. We're just gonna skip ahead to
• 51:41
  when he recaps her story. All right there, there's a lot
• 51:44
  of nonsense in this stream. I'm just, I'm going to jump to
• 51:46
  the specific points that I want to respond to so we can get
• 51:49
  through this. Because she intentionally went
• 51:50
  to see him and only met the other guys a few days later.
• 51:54
  So this is what happens. She claims that she hooked up
• 51:58
  with Ben. She got sexual with Ben then,
• 52:01
  and this is the most important part.
• 52:03
  She claims that at one point while partying she blacked out.
• 52:07
  She then woke up like in the middle of the night.
• 52:09
  She. Was all right, so first of all,
• 52:11
  not while partying. He, he recaps this really badly,
• 52:14
  which again makes me wonder if he actually listened to the
• 52:16
  whole thing or not. There wasn't while partying.
• 52:20
  It was while he they were at dinner.
• 52:22
  He took her to dinner, started buying her glasses of wine.
• 52:26
  She had, she had two, maybe 3 glasses of wine and the last
• 52:34
  thing she remembers is going to the bathroom and, and, and, and
• 52:40
  she has like some vague fuzzy memory of him dragging her down
• 52:47
  the streets of Santa Fe towards their hotel room and her, And
• 52:52
  this is very like, again, all these details are important,
• 52:56
  Jeff. I don't know why you're skimming
• 52:57
  over them details, you know, being like, oh, like the trees
• 53:03
  are so pretty. I want to climb them.
• 53:08
  Which then she just blacks out. She doesn't remember anything
• 53:12
  after that. That sounds like someone who's
• 53:17
  been drugged or roofied or something.
• 53:23
  Still clothed. Still clothed, But she was.
• 53:27
  You can you can fuck someone while they're still clothed.
• 53:30
  My guess is that, and Taylor did say, I don't remember if she
• 53:35
  said it on this dream, but she mentioned during when we were in
• 53:40
  DMS with her something about when she woke up, her crotch
• 53:42
  hurting. My guess is that what Ben did
• 53:47
  was maybe it was hard for him to completely take all her clothes
• 53:53
  off. So he just kind of like, you
• 53:55
  know, pulled her pants down as far as he could and then just
• 53:59
  fucked her awkwardly. That's what I'm guessing
• 54:03
  happened. There's, there's no way of
• 54:08
  knowing exactly what happened. But the fact that she woke up
• 54:14
  feeling that way, the fact that it it, it was very clear that
• 54:19
  there, there was a condom in the in the, in the bin.
• 54:21
  And then also the fact that Ben had that they talked about it
• 54:27
  later. Is that.
• 54:27
  Oh, yeah. What a crazy night.
• 54:30
  He didn't deny that they had sex together.
• 54:32
  He acted like they did it together, like they were just so
• 54:35
  both so crazy drunk. If you're gonna recap her story,
• 54:40
  do it fucking properly. Especially if you're about to
• 54:44
  show evidence that somehow refutes it.
• 54:49
  Durton And she uses this word that a rape happened.
• 54:53
  Now you can understand why I'm a little pissed off.
• 54:55
  There is somebody who is accusing my friend of the big R
• 54:59
  The big R then also in her own words, she continued then
• 55:02
  throughout the rest of the week to have sex with him.
• 55:05
  OK, now that does not necessarily mean.
• 55:08
  So we read that article earlier. If you didn't see it, you can go
• 55:12
  back. But there are reasons why
• 55:15
  abusers will stay in contact with their their reasons why
• 55:20
  victims will stay in contact with their abusers, why they
• 55:23
  will, you know, continue relationships with them.
• 55:27
  This is not out of the ordinary. Sometimes it takes people a
• 55:30
  while to figure out they were raped.
• 55:32
  Absolutely. That she's not telling the
• 55:35
  truth, Not at all, not at all. Listen, that kind of shit.
• 55:38
  That's exactly what you're. Saying I'm not here to try and
• 55:41
  tell you what happened. I'm not gonna tell you what
• 55:44
  happened because I wasn't there. You know who is gonna tell you
• 55:46
  what happened? Taylor's gonna tell you what
• 55:48
  happened. And you know how she's gonna do
• 55:49
  that? With her own goddamn private
• 55:51
  messages. All right, see, see, this is
• 55:54
  exactly the same for those of y'all that heard.
• 55:59
  This is exactly the same as the the the lawyers defense in the
• 56:06
  Harvey Weinstein case. Literally.
• 56:08
  Oh, we're going to we're going to show you why this isn't true
• 56:11
  when the victim's own words look at these emails and then what
• 56:17
  are there? It's not like he's showing DMS
• 56:20
  of her being like, you know, that stuff that, you know, was
• 56:27
  described in her story, that stuff didn't even happen.
• 56:30
  You know, like, I don't know how he would.
• 56:35
  She's not saying it did not. She's she's clearly in a
• 56:39
  different phase of her relationship with him.
• 56:41
  She's clearly, she's clearly, you know, kind of confused,
• 56:49
  still infatuated with him a little bit in, in one way or
• 56:53
  another. And, or, or, you know, these are
• 56:56
  confusing relationships. That doesn't mean they're not
• 56:59
  toxic. That doesn't mean that they're,
• 57:01
  they're not fucking problematic. You can have an extremely fucked
• 57:04
  up relationship and have moments where it's like, you know, oh,
• 57:08
  I, I really do love this person. I've seen people who are fucking
• 57:14
  married for years who literally go back and forth between
• 57:18
  despising the person and wanting to divorce them and, and, and
• 57:22
  hating them so much. And then and then like, oh, I
• 57:24
  actually love the person. Because you try to rationalize
• 57:27
  in your head that no, no, no, you're not making the wrong
• 57:29
  decision. This person isn't fucking you
• 57:32
  over. You do love this person because
• 57:36
  of all, all, everything you've invested it with them already.
• 57:38
  The fact that you know, you don't want to lose that control,
• 57:41
  that power. You don't want to, like, admit
• 57:44
  that you've been violated in one way or another.
• 57:47
  You have to convince yourself that you wanted this.
• 57:49
  It's continuing. So God damn dude, this is so
• 57:57
  fucking. This is so fucking shit dude.
• 58:00
  I hate that I have to. Fucking so Yeah.
• 58:01
  All right, so I've already explained that I'm not.
• 58:03
  I'm not showing this. I'm not showing it.
• 58:07
  I think it's really gross that Jeff showed this shit at all.
• 58:13
  It's disgusting. Like seriously, fuck you, Jeff.
• 58:20
  Go read up more on abuse victims.
• 58:23
  Go read up more on, you know, the, the victims of the Harvey
• 58:27
  Weinstein case and shit like that and a lot of other cases.
• 58:31
  Because you don't know what you're talking about.
• 58:34
  Your little DMS of them being friendly to each other, of them
• 58:38
  being loving of of your the the videos you showed of of Taylor
• 58:43
  being like oh I miss you or whatever of her being flirty.
• 58:48
  It is disgusting that you would leak videos and DMS of an abuse
• 58:56
  victim of not only just of an abuse victim, but of an abuse
• 59:00
  victim from a time that they clearly love to, to not relive.
• 59:07
  How, how, how, how, how hard do you think it is to, to, to deal
• 59:11
  with the fact emotionally and mentally that, yeah, you did
• 59:14
  have those moments where it was like, I love you and this and
• 59:17
  that. Like, again, I've not been
• 59:21
  sexually abused in my life, but I've gone through abuses.
• 59:25
  I've, I, I, I, I was raised in abusive situations.
• 59:28
  And there's been especially times when, when that shit like
• 59:31
  weighed on me more heavily, where I was, I was sickened by
• 59:35
  the fact that, that, that, that, that I had ever said certain
• 59:38
  things or, or allowed certain things to happen.
• 59:45
  No one wants to be like, especially when they're going
• 59:47
  through pain and trauma based on this shit.
• 59:49
  No one wants to relive the, the, the, the moments where they were
• 59:55
  completely under the, the spell of an abuser.
• 1:00:02
  You are absolutely disgusting, Jeff.
• 1:00:10
  All right, what? What was this point?
• 1:00:12
  Be shown now is what happens after when she alleged she
• 1:00:16
  stated first that she already was sexual with him.
• 1:00:18
  Then she alleges that she was raped even though apparently he
• 1:00:22
  he must have done it and then got her all dressed back up
• 1:00:24
  again, including in her boots. She obviously just didn't party
• 1:00:26
  really fucking hard. No, she she definitely had some
• 1:00:29
  sort of assault happen. I've already explained this.
• 1:00:32
  And she admittedly had more sexual encounters with her then
• 1:00:36
  this happens. So wait.
• 1:00:38
  OK. Oh, so he just shows.
• 1:00:40
  So yeah, he shows more DMS of, of her talking about, you know,
• 1:00:46
  you know, oh, I love you. And and at one point she
• 1:00:48
  apparently she says something like and Taylor, by the way,
• 1:00:52
  you're in the chat. Please correct me.
• 1:00:54
  It's very hard to see the DMS that are shown, so I can't tell
• 1:00:58
  if it's I can't even read them honestly.
• 1:01:00
  Like even if I showed them wait here, let me just hang on
• 1:01:05
  because I'm pretty sure even if I showed them, they wouldn't
• 1:01:08
  fucking come up. Yeah, you can't even make them
• 1:01:10
  out. You literally can't even make
• 1:01:13
  them out. But shit about her just being
• 1:01:17
  like, oh, I miss you. And apparently there's something
• 1:01:19
  where she was like, oh, you know, if fucking well, hi was
• 1:01:24
  that good, then we should fuck on LSD, which again, doesn't
• 1:01:29
  prove anything. In fact, I could if if she did
• 1:01:34
  say that, I could see an abuse victim absolutely being like,
• 1:01:40
  you know, you, you kind of violated me while I was on this
• 1:01:43
  drug. And then being like, well, no,
• 1:01:46
  no, no, no, it was good. It's fine.
• 1:01:47
  I wanted it, in fact. Yeah, let's let's do more.
• 1:01:49
  Yeah. Like, it's fine.
• 1:01:50
  This is a this isn't fucked up. This isn't fucked up.
• 1:01:53
  Let's do LSD next. It'll be fine.
• 1:01:55
  I'm not saying that's exactly what happened necessarily, but
• 1:01:58
  like, you know, there's a lot of complicated fucked up mental
• 1:02:03
  stuff with, with this, OK. And, and, and I, I, I, I just
• 1:02:10
  hate the the fact that he's playing ignorant here as if he
• 1:02:14
  doesn't know this. So what is this?
• 1:02:20
  OK. What is this one?
• 1:02:29
  Which I do have a copy of. I then also fascinating.
• 1:02:31
  I I feel like I really need to point this out on her original
• 1:02:34
  itinerary, which I do have a copy of.
• 1:02:35
  I then also have this itinerary as well.
• 1:02:38
  So here we go right? That's me upside down.
• 1:02:40
  Hey. OK so this this I am gonna show
• 1:02:43
  because all this does is backup Taylor's story.
• 1:02:49
  All this does is actually I, I'm, I'm, I'm glad I don't have
• 1:02:53
  to ask Taylor now for these for, for, for this itinerary to, to
• 1:02:58
  confirm that yes, she did have these flights.
• 1:03:02
  Because again, nothing that is being shown right now
• 1:03:06
  contradicts a thing that Taylor said.
• 1:03:08
  She said that she postponed her trip a day.
• 1:03:13
  She absolutely said that. It, it was, it was in the
• 1:03:18
  fucking. It was in her interview.
• 1:03:23
  Did you let Jeff? Jeff, you're defending your
• 1:03:27
  buddy Ben over here so vigorously.
• 1:03:30
  Did you watch my interview? Did you watch it?
• 1:03:33
  Did you listen to a goddamn word that was said because Taylor
• 1:03:39
  fucking said this? Holy fuck, yes.
• 1:03:43
  She stayed an extra day, she stayed an extra day and then Ben
• 1:03:51
  paid for her flight, but then she paid it all back when she
• 1:03:56
  she gave a bunch of donations during a show.
• 1:04:00
  She literally talked about this like holy fuck.
• 1:04:05
  So did Ben keep all these messages and videos because he
• 1:04:07
  knew this was going to happen in the future?
• 1:04:09
  Yes, yes, he that's exactly what he did.
• 1:04:14
  And Taylor doesn't have access to these messages anymore
• 1:04:17
  because Ben deleted them. So Taylor can't come now and
• 1:04:21
  show the messages from in between.
• 1:04:24
  She can't show, you know, some of his like, manipulative
• 1:04:28
  behavior, some of his really weird, you know, emotional
• 1:04:33
  abuse. She can't show that because Ben
• 1:04:36
  went out of his way to delete the records.
• 1:04:39
  But of course, first he he saved the fucking records.
• 1:04:43
  He saved screenshots of all of this.
• 1:04:49
  He absolutely has been saving this because he's paranoid and
• 1:04:53
  he's known that this could fucking come back to bite him
• 1:04:56
  one day. Why does he have all of this?
• 1:05:01
  Why does he have all these messages from from his ex that
• 1:05:04
  he doesn't see any more that that that all the messages are
• 1:05:11
  deleted. All the records are deleted.
• 1:05:14
  Amina can't get into her history of messages with Ben either.
• 1:05:19
  Why is that? Why do a lot of people Annie.
• 1:05:23
  Annie fucking showed me screenshots of of of their
• 1:05:28
  discord DMS. He deleted all of them.
• 1:05:32
  He screenshots shit and then deletes it and saves it for the
• 1:05:35
  future so that he can edit and and and cherry pick and and and
• 1:05:40
  show things that, you know, only bolster his narrative but keep
• 1:05:45
  anything that contradicts it completely hidden.
• 1:05:49
  Very fucking weird. All right.
• 1:05:54
  I think there's a little more on this bit.
• 1:05:56
  Original itinerary had her flying out February 2nd, yet
• 1:06:00
  when we look back on some of these receipts, when she left
• 1:06:05
  was actually February 3rd. February 3rd.
• 1:06:09
  I guess if the Dick is so good you put your flight off for
• 1:06:11
  another goddamn day. But oops, I guess four years
• 1:06:13
  later, suddenly you decide to go out.
• 1:06:15
  Taylor already explained why she postponed the trip.
• 1:06:18
  Go back and watch her fucking interview if you want to know
• 1:06:21
  why. Like again, Jeff, this is very
• 1:06:25
  fucking sloppy. This is very fucking sloppy.
• 1:06:29
  You, you care about your friend Ben, you really care about him,
• 1:06:32
  you care about defending him from these allegations, but you
• 1:06:35
  didn't even listen to all the details of the stream where he
• 1:06:40
  was being accused. You're, you're, you're
• 1:06:46
  literally, you think you're contradicting stuff.
• 1:06:49
  All you're doing is confirming shit.
• 1:06:51
  That Taylor already fucking said like this is really fucking sad.
• 1:06:57
  Go out and lambast this guy. Jeff really thinks he's a
• 1:06:59
  lawyer. Yeah, it it kind of does seem
• 1:07:01
  that way. Dude, Ben, Ben, just a little
• 1:07:05
  tip. I'd get a I'd get a new lawyer
• 1:07:07
  if I were you all right. I, I don't think Jeff Holiday
• 1:07:11
  is, is is your best choice. All right, I, I hey, maybe
• 1:07:15
  Keemstar, maybe maybe you could go get get someone like
• 1:07:19
  Keemstar. I'm sure he'd defend a a a scum
• 1:07:22
  fuck like you and I know y'all already have connections so.
• 1:07:27
  Not only that, but the stream that you did where you made
• 1:07:29
  these accusations was at the stroke of midnight on his
• 1:07:31
  birthday. On his birthday.
• 1:07:34
  So another thing that y'all would know if y'all actually
• 1:07:38
  paid attention to that stream was that until halfway through
• 1:07:43
  that stream when it actually came up and Taylor mentioned,
• 1:07:47
  yeah, Ben's birthday is actually sometime around now.
• 1:07:50
  It's I think it's this month. I didn't even know that Ben's
• 1:07:54
  birthday was anywhere near. Now, I I had no clue.
• 1:07:59
  Never observed Ben's birthday as a fucking holiday.
• 1:08:02
  All right? I've never really paid attention
• 1:08:04
  to it. Yeah, What up, Chelsea?
• 1:08:10
  I've not I've. I've not had that.
• 1:08:12
  Oh, Yup. Ben's birthday.
• 1:08:15
  Better make sure that I stream on Ben's birthday.
• 1:08:17
  But you know what else is interesting and and quite funny?
• 1:08:21
  This isn't even true. This isn't even true, guys.
• 1:08:30
  I want to take a look at something real quick.
• 1:08:32
  Real quick. OK, let's see.
• 1:08:36
  Oh, let's, let's go over here. OK, let's type in Drunken
• 1:08:45
  peasant's birthday, Ben. All right.
• 1:08:59
  All right, so every year, and I do know this, Ben has a stream
• 1:09:08
  on his birthday, which from what I can tell is May 8th, May 8th.
• 1:09:17
  One of these streams is on the 7th, one of these streams is on
• 1:09:22
  the 8th. But yeah, I'm pretty sure it's
• 1:09:25
  May 8th. From what I've been told.
• 1:09:28
  We did that stream on May 10th, not 10th, 6th, 6th.
• 1:09:36
  OK, it was, it was the 6th, all right.
• 1:09:39
  And I didn't do it on the stroke of midnight.
• 1:09:43
  I did it at 10:00 PM mountain time, which is where I live.
• 1:09:48
  And 10:00 PM mountain time is one of the my, my usual stream
• 1:09:54
  times. Thursday, 10:00 PM mountain time
• 1:09:57
  is one of my usual stream times. If not, sometimes I'll stream a
• 1:10:01
  couple hours earlier. But like if I'm going to stream,
• 1:10:05
  which I usually stream almost every Thursday and Tuesday at
• 1:10:08
  least. And then I do like other streams
• 1:10:10
  in between here and there. I do them the, the, the latest
• 1:10:15
  I'll do them is like, is, is 10 or midnight Eastern Time.
• 1:10:19
  All right, But I'm not on Eastern Time.
• 1:10:24
  I pay attention to mountain time.
• 1:10:27
  I, I, I know, like I, I, I pay attention to Eastern Time as
• 1:10:30
  well because Annie's on Eastern Time and you know, I work with
• 1:10:33
  other people who are on Eastern Time.
• 1:10:35
  So I got it at least, you know, but like, I didn't like, oh,
• 1:10:40
  let's, let's make sure I'm like doing this right on Ben's
• 1:10:43
  birthday, which by the way, Ben is on the West Coast.
• 1:10:46
  So his birthday is even an hour later.
• 1:10:52
  So like, what? What is this like?
• 1:10:54
  Like, is this just an attempt to make me look like an even more
• 1:10:58
  shitty person? Like, oh, oh, Oh my God, What a
• 1:11:03
  fucking piece of shit. What a piece of shit.
• 1:11:06
  You streamed this on his birthday.
• 1:11:09
  You can quite clearly see if you watch that stream.
• 1:11:12
  I didn't know when his birthday was.
• 1:11:13
  And I was like, oh, it's around now.
• 1:11:15
  And someone was like, yeah, it's in a couple days.
• 1:11:16
  I was like, hey, Ben, you know which by the way, I dream on his
• 1:11:23
  birthday. It's not something I would have
• 1:11:26
  avoided. It's not something I would have
• 1:11:27
  done intentionally either. Like, I, I don't give a fuck.
• 1:11:32
  I don't give a fuck about Ben's birthday, OK?
• 1:11:39
  But after all the fucking shit that he's put so many people
• 1:11:42
  through, like I, I definitely don't feel bad.
• 1:11:46
  I don't feel bad that it happened around his birthday and
• 1:11:48
  clearly it it triggered him. Although otherwise his, you
• 1:11:53
  know, his avid defender here, Jeff wouldn't be bitching about
• 1:11:57
  it. Just really fucking weird.
• 1:12:01
  OK, let's, let's, let's continue.
• 1:12:04
  Let's go, Let's, let's, oh fuck, let's go a little bit further
• 1:12:11
  in. I in the world.
• 1:12:16
  I wonder. Would four years later, all of a
• 1:12:19
  sudden this start coming out? This is strange.
• 1:12:21
  Could it be? Could it be that only until
• 1:12:25
  recently now, Ben has still been having to pay the other DFF
• 1:12:28
  people off to pay off their half of the goddamn show?
• 1:12:31
  And that now that they're all paid off, dealer comes out and
• 1:12:34
  says that. All of a sudden, yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Except no, that's not the case. Like, again, guys, this is so
• 1:12:41
  wrong on so many levels. Holy fuck.
• 1:12:44
  OK, first of all, I had no idea even that Ben was still paying
• 1:12:50
  the other guys off and that that ended recently.
• 1:12:52
  I knew something about some kind of legal agreement that was
• 1:12:55
  ending recent. I didn't know what was going on.
• 1:12:59
  But believe it or not, guys, TJ doesn't tell me this stuff, all
• 1:13:01
  right? Like, I, I, I don't have like a,
• 1:13:04
  a, a, a long DM sessions with TJ where, where, where he tells me
• 1:13:09
  all the deep, intimate details of his personal and professional
• 1:13:13
  life. All right, I, I, I don't know
• 1:13:16
  what the fuck is going on behind the scenes, but I love how they
• 1:13:23
  characterize this as being all of a sudden, all of a sudden,
• 1:13:26
  guys, all of a sudden they're coming out with this.
• 1:13:30
  Except yeah, no, except the reason, and it's been made very
• 1:13:35
  fucking clear throughout all of our streams.
• 1:13:38
  The reason that this is happening now is because Alicia
• 1:13:43
  came forward. Alicia came forward and released
• 1:13:52
  a bunch of information on her Twitter talking about Ben and
• 1:13:55
  the way he mistreated her. And the more I started talking
• 1:14:01
  about this, the more other victims came forward.
• 1:14:07
  And and and we're we're really glad to see that someone was
• 1:14:10
  finally talking about this and said, yeah, I want to tell my
• 1:14:14
  story too. Guys.
• 1:14:18
  If the stream is having issues, there is AD live link in the
• 1:14:23
  description. You guys can watch over on D
• 1:14:26
  Live, All right, Yeah, guys. The the if, if there's issues
• 1:14:34
  like I, I, I can't really do anything, just go to D Live and
• 1:14:39
  watch it there anyway. All right, let's continue.
• 1:14:57
  Actually, here, let me let me let me close some shit, just
• 1:14:59
  just in case that's contributing to whatever issues are
• 1:15:03
  happening. Gotta love YouTube, yo, Gotta
• 1:15:08
  love it. All right,
• 1:15:24
  let's see here. We're going to skip ahead again.
• 1:15:27
  We're going to go to OK, it's breaking up on D Live 2.
• 1:15:34
  Damn, that's really weird. Yeah, I got I, I don't know,
• 1:15:46
  look, if this has issues like I'm just going to keep going and
• 1:15:49
  the VOD of this will be up later and people can watch it then,
• 1:15:54
  but yeah, I'm I'm not going to not going to worry too much
• 1:15:58
  about about that. Going to keep chugging along
• 1:16:01
  because I want to get this over with.
• 1:16:04
  Yeah, lower the quality. It helps lower the quality of
• 1:16:07
  the stream. The entire Internet is broken
• 1:16:10
  today. Yeah, it kind of is.
• 1:16:12
  All right, let's continue. So here is the point where Missy
• 1:16:20
  Anne makes it all about herself again.
• 1:16:22
  Because as I said, Missy Anne adds nothing, nothing to this
• 1:16:26
  conversation except. Yeah, yeah, Yep, absolutely.
• 1:16:31
  And, and and then every once in a while, she'll say some shit to
• 1:16:35
  make this shit about herself. She'll she'll, she'll go into
• 1:16:40
  like and we'll, yeah, let's let's take a listen.
• 1:16:42
  Or even though it's been proven that the people that are
• 1:16:44
  accusing Ben have been going around for the past year telling
• 1:16:47
  people that I'm a murderer with no evidence.
• 1:16:49
  So. The people that are see this is
• 1:16:52
  the problem. This is why I don't take Missy
• 1:16:54
  Anne seriously in the slightest. The people who have been
• 1:16:57
  accusing Ben are going have been going around accusing you of
• 1:17:01
  being a murderer. What?
• 1:17:03
  What is this nebulous people that have been accusing Ben?
• 1:17:07
  What, what? What is what does that mean?
• 1:17:09
  What? What does that mean?
• 1:17:14
  That makes are you talking about Alicia?
• 1:17:19
  Are you talking about someone that Alicia was friends with?
• 1:17:22
  You talking with someone that was in my chat once?
• 1:17:26
  You're talking about people that I'm not associated with and that
• 1:17:29
  Alicia has already shown proof as well that she's not
• 1:17:32
  associated with that that that she she talked to them a little
• 1:17:36
  bit in the past or she talked to tragic a little bit in the past
• 1:17:39
  and then stopped being stopped paying attention to.
• 1:17:45
  Yeah, stop, stop being. She didn't feel comfortable
• 1:17:54
  talking that she, she, she, she felt weird about it.
• 1:17:56
  I felt weird about them. All right?
• 1:17:59
  I felt weird that this tragic and dark ninja and whoever the
• 1:18:03
  fuck else were talking about my stream and, and and talking
• 1:18:07
  about how, oh, Shabisky's a groomer to those claims.
• 1:18:10
  And see, here's the thing. We're that I love and Missy Ann
• 1:18:12
  is being really dishonest and really hurting her case and
• 1:18:15
  hurting all of their case by by doing this shit.
• 1:18:18
  And she she should shut the fuck up, keep keep her mouth shut
• 1:18:22
  and, and and do what she's clearly there to do.
• 1:18:24
  Stick to doing what you're there to do and being eye candy and
• 1:18:28
  and and and something for for pimp to to hit on and and and
• 1:18:32
  act creepy towards throughout his adding your fucking you
• 1:18:37
  doesn't help me doesn't help. Then it'll look like a bunch of
• 1:18:39
  liar makes you look like a pathological liar.
• 1:18:41
  It does. You accuse me at some point in
• 1:18:43
  the stream of of calling you a pathological liar.
• 1:18:46
  I never did, but I'm starting to feel like you kind of maybe are.
• 1:18:50
  I am not associated with the people who were doxing you for
• 1:18:54
  the people who were attacking your child.
• 1:18:58
  I do not associate with those people and I never did.
• 1:19:01
  I may have had one or two conversations with a tragic
• 1:19:04
  That's it, that's it. Not even conversations.
• 1:19:08
  Talk to them literally in over a month.
• 1:19:12
  Like Miss Missy, this is ridiculous.
• 1:19:16
  No one's attacking you. Like I have not said a goddamn
• 1:19:21
  thing about you. I went to you, Missy.
• 1:19:25
  I went to you. I heard Tragics specifically
• 1:19:29
  about the specifically about DMS and asking you.
• 1:19:32
  I asked you is there any weight to this?
• 1:19:36
  You said no. I haven't brought it up once.
• 1:19:40
  That's been the end of my interaction with those people.
• 1:19:44
  My DM with you Missy, has been the end of my interactions with
• 1:19:48
  those people and you still dishonestly dishonestly, like a
• 1:19:55
  lying fucking cunt, continue to fucking bring this up and and
• 1:20:02
  and act in bad faith. Act as if I I'm running around
• 1:20:10
  spreading rumors that I know nothing about, that I disavow,
• 1:20:12
  that I have nothing to do with. I already explained why I don't
• 1:20:17
  believe in guilt by association. You're doing like the worst kind
• 1:20:20
  of guilt by association. You're doing guilt by
• 1:20:22
  association by association. Because Tragic, by the way, is
• 1:20:29
  not even the person who doxxed you.
• 1:20:31
  I don't like tragic. I don't think he's a fucking a
• 1:20:34
  very trustworthy dude. I don't think he's a piece of
• 1:20:36
  shit necessarily either. I think he's an idiot, All
• 1:20:38
  right. He's not my favorite person, but
• 1:20:43
  I don't know the dude. What I what I have heard, and it
• 1:20:47
  seems credible is that he's not the one that doxed you or did
• 1:20:50
  that shit. It was someone who they kicked
• 1:20:53
  out of their community. Now they've been harassing you
• 1:20:57
  for a bit since they think you're a shitty person.
• 1:21:00
  I don't know, the way you're behaving, I'm inclined to maybe
• 1:21:03
  agree with them. You seem like a shitty fucking
• 1:21:06
  person, all right, and but that doesn't that that that also
• 1:21:13
  doesn't justify that that kind of behavior.
• 1:21:15
  So I honestly, Missy, like all you're doing here is trying to
• 1:21:22
  take your drama and drag it into this.
• 1:21:26
  It has nothing. One has nothing to do with the
• 1:21:28
  other. You're you're you're you're
• 1:21:30
  you're dragging your drama out out where it doesn't belong.
• 1:21:33
  All right, if people are harassing you, hurting you,
• 1:21:37
  attacking you, whatever you want, you want to come to me,
• 1:21:41
  You want you want it. You want to deal with that.
• 1:21:43
  Someone tells me you don't want to come on my channel, but like
• 1:21:45
  there's I sympathize with that. If that's what's happening, You
• 1:21:48
  want to tell me your story, feel free, but stop acting like it
• 1:21:52
  has anything to do with this Ben shit.
• 1:21:55
  Stop it. These same people, these same
• 1:22:00
  people who are saying things about Ben, also said things
• 1:22:04
  about me. Except we didn't.
• 1:22:07
  I didn't. Alicia didn't.
• 1:22:09
  Annie didn't. Taylor didn't.
• 1:22:12
  Amina didn't. You're lying.
• 1:22:16
  You are a liar, Missy. Like that's all.
• 1:22:21
  That's all. That's all I can fucking say.
• 1:22:23
  You're a liar. You know you're a lie.
• 1:22:25
  Maybe you don't. Maybe you're that dumb.
• 1:22:27
  I don't know. Clearly Pimp doesn't keep you
• 1:22:30
  around for your fucking brains. And by the way, yeah, she is the
• 1:22:37
  exact definition of a fucking pick me.
• 1:22:39
  It's fucking gross. All right.
• 1:22:49
  I think there's a little more here.
• 1:22:51
  Well, it seems to me kind of like there's a pattern coming
• 1:22:53
  out of your camp that y'all like to tell lies with no evidence
• 1:22:57
  and just see what the fuck sticks to the wall.
• 1:22:59
  That is. What?
• 1:23:00
  What camp? What camp are you talking about?
• 1:23:03
  Like what camp? There's a pattern coming out of
• 1:23:07
  your what camp? I don't have a camp.
• 1:23:12
  I have a channel. I have a tiny ass little
• 1:23:15
  platform that I decided to use to amplify the voices of victims
• 1:23:20
  because I heard a victim telling her story and being shit on by
• 1:23:24
  again, people like you Missy, I am not fucking.
• 1:23:42
  I'm not in a camp with these people that you don't like.
• 1:23:47
  This is the, this is the most fucked up thing.
• 1:23:49
  Like I don't know these people that she's talking about.
• 1:23:51
  I don't know them, I don't know them.
• 1:23:53
  I don't know the situation at all.
• 1:23:54
  I know nothing about it. I know literally nothing about
• 1:23:57
  it. All I know, I watched one or two
• 1:24:00
  streams from Tragic I I looked at some of that shit.
• 1:24:03
  I looked at some of the allegations they were making
• 1:24:05
  about Pimp and Chabisky. It seemed to be bullshit.
• 1:24:09
  They were making some allegations about Missy as well,
• 1:24:11
  seemed to be bullshit. That's the thing.
• 1:24:13
  I did not propagate this shit. I ignored it.
• 1:24:17
  I let it go. I don't like these people, guys.
• 1:24:20
  You see these three people right here?
• 1:24:22
  I think they're dip shits. I think at the very least
• 1:24:25
  they're dumb fucking people. But you know what?
• 1:24:29
  When I heard allegations about them that didn't seem to make a
• 1:24:33
  lot of sense or didn't seem to have a lot of weight behind
• 1:24:35
  them, I didn't push them. I let them go.
• 1:24:42
  I said, you know what? If any evidence of this comes up
• 1:24:44
  later, we'll see. But for right now I I don't have
• 1:24:48
  any reason to believe this stuff.
• 1:24:56
  So like you guys, like I've said this since the beginning, these
• 1:24:59
  three are absolutely making the shit about themselves because
• 1:25:01
  they've got their own little drama with other people.
• 1:25:03
  And they think if they can connect it, if, if they can
• 1:25:06
  connect the dots between their drama with those people and and
• 1:25:10
  this shit between me and and the victims and Ben, that if they
• 1:25:14
  can connect those dots and make it like, no, this is our camp,
• 1:25:18
  us and Ben. And that's the camp over there.
• 1:25:20
  All the trolls and haters. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, dumb fuck.
• 1:25:27
  It's not that black and white. I wish it was.
• 1:25:31
  Honestly. If I could just be like, hey,
• 1:25:34
  all you people are irredeemable scum fucks, I don't have to
• 1:25:37
  fucking take any of you seriously ever again.
• 1:25:42
  I would do that. It would be easy.
• 1:25:44
  It'll be a lot easier. And again, I might have fucking
• 1:25:48
  had a little bit of that attitude in my first dream.
• 1:25:50
  I was going to fuck all those people that are defending Ben,
• 1:25:54
  but I still had very specific criticisms of the people I did
• 1:25:57
  call out. I said that I suspected Billy of
• 1:26:00
  knowing what Ben was up to. Then I later retracted it
• 1:26:02
  because I said, you know what? I don't know?
• 1:26:05
  I said pimp. I know that pimp knows of some
• 1:26:07
  of Ben's manipulative behavior. And I think he, the only reason
• 1:26:12
  he's, he's doing this and, and, and you know, refusing to
• 1:26:15
  believe evidence, refusing to believe victims stories is
• 1:26:20
  because he's doing it out of his own self-serving fucking
• 1:26:23
  bullshit. It's his own self-interest.
• 1:26:33
  He doesn't want to piss off Ben because he knows that being on
• 1:26:37
  good terms with Ben benefits him too much.
• 1:26:39
  Same reason he he fucking backstabbed Annie after they
• 1:26:44
  spent a shit ton of time helping him build up his fucking show,
• 1:26:47
  his discord, helping him fucking, you know, work on shit
• 1:26:51
  and improve shit, being his fucking impromptu Co host
• 1:26:57
  constantly. Just some oh, Ben, Ben speaks.
• 1:27:03
  Ben says that this person's not allowed to be affiliated
• 1:27:06
  anymore. OK, you're gone.
• 1:27:08
  I, I made it very specific why I was calling out pimp monk and I
• 1:27:11
  never mentioned Missy or Shabisi once.
• 1:27:14
  OK, I didn't talk about those people.
• 1:27:18
  The people that watched my stream talked about those people
• 1:27:24
  and now you people want to act like there's there's, there's,
• 1:27:26
  there's 2 camps, 2 groups. Learn to use your God damn
• 1:27:31
  brains again. I know it's hard, Missy.
• 1:27:36
  I, I, I, I know you probably don't have a lot of them, but
• 1:27:42
  God fucking damn. Someone please just pull up her
• 1:27:48
  shirt a little. The girls are trying to escape.
• 1:27:50
  No, no, that she does that on purpose.
• 1:27:52
  That's exactly what like, in fact, I've been on in calls
• 1:27:57
  where like the, the, the, the show's about to start and like
• 1:28:00
  even before the show starts, pimps like, Oh yeah, Missy, show
• 1:28:05
  me that ass for a minute. I'll bend over again.
• 1:28:09
  And, and she'll like, she'll like get up off out of first
• 1:28:13
  chair and like, oh, so I'm just picking something up over here.
• 1:28:18
  I just have to like, and, and and they brag about the fact
• 1:28:21
  that, Oh yeah, that is why she's there.
• 1:28:23
  Like, yeah, she's she's eye candy.
• 1:28:25
  That's that's that's the whole thing.
• 1:28:26
  All right, look at her a little fucking Rybi 2 point O over
• 1:28:32
  here. Holy fuck.
• 1:28:38
  OK, let's, let's, let's, let's continue this travesty.
• 1:28:41
  Holy fuck. I'm not even nearly as far in as
• 1:28:44
  I want it to be by now, OK? Basically, that is basically how
• 1:28:48
  this whole shit has been going down.
• 1:28:49
  But like, and, and I, I just, I'm, I'm trying to wrap my head
• 1:28:51
  around how, how they, they, they thought that this was just going
• 1:28:55
  to basically fly. And I can only think of one
• 1:28:56
  thing. And this is, this is really what
• 1:28:57
  it, what it comes down to for me.
• 1:28:58
  And this is what pisses me the most off.
• 1:28:59
  And then I'll have to get to Amina because Amina is a fucking
• 1:29:01
  psychopath as well. This is what it really gets down
• 1:29:03
  to for me is they had to rely and they were right.
• 1:29:09
  They had to rely on the fact that the NDA that is signed by
• 1:29:12
  all the former parties that were involved in DP together meant
• 1:29:15
  that Ben could not necessarily address these accusations.
• 1:29:17
  What? That is bullshit.
• 1:29:19
  No, no, seriously. The I, I honestly didn't know
• 1:29:25
  that there was that, that the NDA extended that I don't even
• 1:29:29
  believe it does that he can talk about these allegations.
• 1:29:33
  That has nothing to do with the, the, the, the stuff about the
• 1:29:37
  show that they're not allowed to talk about.
• 1:29:39
  They're not allowed to talk about each other.
• 1:29:40
  They're not allowed to talk about the show.
• 1:29:44
  Ben could easily, you know, come out and, and, and address these
• 1:29:48
  allegations. He doesn't want to address the
• 1:29:50
  ones about Taylor. He can address the ones about
• 1:29:52
  Alicia and Amina, but he hasn't addressed any of it to get the
• 1:29:57
  fuck out of here. I, I believe Ben's not
• 1:30:03
  responding because he's a fucking 'cause, cause 'cause,
• 1:30:06
  'cause he's scared. It's not 'cause oh, oh, I'm,
• 1:30:08
  I'm, I'm being, I'm being restricted by an NDA.
• 1:30:12
  Like get the fuck out of here. Like like like you're that is so
• 1:30:17
  full of shit. Taylor didn't sign an NDA, but
• 1:30:26
  you know what? Neither did I or did I, or did
• 1:30:29
  you or anybody. So fuck it man.
• 1:30:30
  Fuck, You don't know anything. Missy.
• 1:30:32
  Anne, shut up. No one cares whether you sign
• 1:30:35
  anything. You're not a part of this.
• 1:30:37
  You have nothing to do with anything.
• 1:30:38
  I know you want to, like, shove your little drama in there, and
• 1:30:41
  then you can feel vindicated for hating us, but you're not part
• 1:30:45
  of it. Got, guys.
• 1:30:47
  It. It's so hard.
• 1:30:48
  It's so hard. She is so infuriating.
• 1:30:50
  Holy fuck. I'll.
• 1:30:55
  OK, let's go a little further. Here we go.
• 1:31:02
  And the thing that's so weird too is I should have known that
• 1:31:05
  this is going to be a fucking shit show when it was obvious it
• 1:31:07
  was Jamie fucking Dark who was going.
• 1:31:08
  To be doing that's the, that's the mother fucking shit.
• 1:31:10
  Right, if it's such a huge allegation, right and it's oh,
• 1:31:12
  Ben did this to me and and it it's so important that I get
• 1:31:14
  this message out, why are you doing it on a shit fucking
• 1:31:16
  channel with, you know, less than however many subscribe.
• 1:31:19
  A shit fucking channel. Look, guys, like it, it's a real
• 1:31:24
  easy attack, but like, I, I, I mean, I could say the same thing
• 1:31:27
  to y'all. Like what?
• 1:31:28
  OK, whatever the reason it was addressed on my channel and not
• 1:31:34
  as the the reason it was addressed on my channel and not
• 1:31:40
  a better channel again is 'cause I was the only one who would
• 1:31:45
  fucking talk about it again. I was hoping after Alicia's
• 1:31:50
  allegations came out that pimp monk that the geek room that any
• 1:31:55
  other fucking show within these fucking like little circles
• 1:31:59
  anyone burnt toast. Even she loves drama.
• 1:32:02
  I was hoping anyone would pay attention to this and talk about
• 1:32:06
  it. No one did, no one did.
• 1:32:10
  And so I knew that since I have a tiny platform, but I am a
• 1:32:14
  little bit known in DPDFF circles, I hope that just maybe
• 1:32:20
  if I talk about this on my channel that I can push it a
• 1:32:24
  little further than it would have gone otherwise.
• 1:32:27
  You know, I, I expected to be the, the, the, the, the first
• 1:32:32
  person to talk about this. I didn't expect to be the only
• 1:32:35
  person talking about it for that for long.
• 1:32:39
  I don't want this to be coming out on my channel.
• 1:32:42
  But again, no one else wants to address it, so I kind of fucking
• 1:32:47
  have to. And again, I'm not calling out
• 1:32:50
  any of the shows and or any of the channels that I said didn't
• 1:32:52
  talk about it. I look, not everyone knew the
• 1:32:55
  situation. All right, geek room, burnt
• 1:32:58
  toast, whatever. They didn't know the situation.
• 1:33:02
  But which is why I felt like, OK, I have to talk about this
• 1:33:07
  because at least if I talk about this, maybe some other channels,
• 1:33:10
  some other people that, you know, are in these circles that
• 1:33:13
  pay attention to me, maybe they'll see this shit and, and
• 1:33:18
  they'll, you know, talk about it too.
• 1:33:22
  But I also wasn't going to go around to every fucking channel
• 1:33:25
  that I'm friendly with every other content creator and be
• 1:33:28
  like, Hey, look at my drama video.
• 1:33:30
  Hey, look at my drama video, especially when I'm already
• 1:33:32
  being accused of fucking clout chasing.
• 1:33:36
  I mean, not that I really fucking give a fuck, but like,
• 1:33:39
  you know, I, I, I don't, I also don't want to like force other
• 1:33:43
  people into drama. I don't want to drag other
• 1:33:45
  people. It's the same reason, same
• 1:33:48
  reason. Like I, I'm not having guests on
• 1:33:50
  my channel right now. I, I was told you guys, I was
• 1:33:52
  going to do that here soon, which, by the way, that's how I
• 1:33:54
  was planning on growing my channel, not by talking about
• 1:33:57
  this shit. I was getting ready to have
• 1:33:59
  guests on. But you know what?
• 1:34:00
  Unlike these people, I don't. I don't bring guests on when I'm
• 1:34:04
  talking about serious fucking drama that I know that the
• 1:34:07
  guests probably wouldn't want to be dragged into.
• 1:34:12
  My my goal is not to blind side people and then rope them into
• 1:34:16
  drama that they're not involved with.
• 1:34:21
  I want people to talk about this because they see it, they
• 1:34:23
  realize it's fucked up and it needs to be talked about anyway.
• 1:34:32
  I was to 50 viewers at midnight on a fucking Thursday.
• 1:34:34
  Right. If it's that big of a story and
• 1:34:36
  it's that important for you to get it out there, why aren't you
• 1:34:38
  doing? It I love how they keep calling
• 1:34:39
  out the midnight thing again, My I'd go live at 10, all right,
• 1:34:42
  not 11 mountain time, all right, Like people watch me at
• 1:34:45
  midnight, OK, a lot of bit a lot of fucking night owls watch me.
• 1:34:50
  Like what? What's your point?
• 1:34:52
  On the channel, oh, we have hundreds of thousands of Subs.
• 1:34:54
  Or we know why Jamie's doing it. Jamie's going to the cloud.
• 1:34:56
  Oh yeah, yeah, maybe he's. Not because he's got a hate or
• 1:34:58
  she's got a boner for fucking Ben.
• 1:34:59
  You know, I'm just gonna say this.
• 1:35:02
  I, I I don't, I'm not saying it's a big thing or anything,
• 1:35:05
  but that's the second time now that Missy Anne has had to
• 1:35:08
  correct herself when referring to me.
• 1:35:10
  Kind of again, kind of weird for the mother of a trans child to
• 1:35:14
  to have to remind herself to not misgender a trans person.
• 1:35:18
  Yeah, I I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:35:20
  We'll get more into that later. She, she gets mad because I
• 1:35:24
  called her a trans fellow. I'm trying to do these in order
• 1:35:26
  so. And that she's had for years.
• 1:35:28
  Years and all, my God, who? Are capitalizing.
• 1:35:31
  On the vendetta against Ben by the way.
• 1:35:33
  Again by the way, even if I know a lot of y'all have seen the
• 1:35:36
  stream of Pull the Trigger where I had Paul and TJ on and Taylor,
• 1:35:41
  y'all can go watch that. We also had a dude on called
• 1:35:43
  Kawaii Cost who had some drama with fucking DDFF back at the
• 1:35:49
  time. Whoa, I had no clue she had a
• 1:35:53
  Yeah guys, did you know she has a trans?
• 1:35:56
  Yeah. I wouldn't have known, you know,
• 1:35:58
  except for the fact that she talks about it every five
• 1:36:00
  fucking seconds. Sorry, but yeah, during that
• 1:36:09
  stream, we had someone in Kawaii Kostan who wanted to deal, deal
• 1:36:16
  with some drama with, with Paul because he had been, you know,
• 1:36:20
  pirating and leaking all, all of their patron shit back then.
• 1:36:24
  He had a server. He, you know, he, he got, he got
• 1:36:27
  kicked out, he got banned. There was a whole thing.
• 1:36:29
  But I was willing to cut, let him on and let him talk for a
• 1:36:31
  little bit. You know what the point is?
• 1:36:34
  I kicked him off the show. I kicked him off the show at the
• 1:36:39
  very moment when he started saying Ben cheats on his wife
• 1:36:43
  and started doing memes about Ben.
• 1:36:45
  Ben did this or that or whatever and I was also watching another
• 1:36:50
  stream that I was watching another stream where from back
• 1:36:59
  then where I kicked off another one of my old Co hosts because
• 1:37:03
  she was talking about some shit that that that she heard of Ben
• 1:37:07
  doing. And I at the time I viewed it as
• 1:37:10
  unfounded rumor because I had heard nothing deeper about it.
• 1:37:14
  I had seen no evidence to it and so I didn't want to propagate
• 1:37:19
  it. I didn't want to propagate it on
• 1:37:21
  my show. I kicked off two people that I,
• 1:37:24
  that I know of for talking about that kind of stuff about Ben.
• 1:37:29
  Because no, I have not had a vendetta against Ben.
• 1:37:32
  I've had criticisms against Ben. There's a difference.
• 1:37:36
  I can criticize a show that I enjoy.
• 1:37:38
  I'm very critical of Paul. I'm still I, I, I would say I'm
• 1:37:41
  still friends with Paul. I hope I'm still friends with
• 1:37:43
  Paul at least. OK, you know, we've gotten very
• 1:37:47
  heated with each other, but I still think he's a good dude.
• 1:37:51
  I have no issues with him. I'm very critical of TJ.
• 1:37:53
  I've done entire fucking streams going after T JS positions that
• 1:37:58
  I disagree with. All I've ever done with Ben is
• 1:38:03
  the exact same fucking thing. I've disagreed with Ben.
• 1:38:07
  I've been critical of his positions, of some of the shit
• 1:38:10
  that he said and done, and I've been critical of his show, and
• 1:38:14
  Ben is the one that, to my knowledge, has had a vendetta
• 1:38:18
  against me this entire time. Ben has been the one who's been
• 1:38:21
  seething about me for years. I've gone back and forth, well,
• 1:38:32
  Ben was fucking, you know, sending my streams to people and
• 1:38:34
  being like, what is this people talking about me, you know, and,
• 1:38:39
  and, and, and telling other people they're not allowed to
• 1:38:41
  stream with me and shit. I was still a patron of his.
• 1:38:46
  I was a patron of his until Annie finally, until I think it
• 1:38:53
  was shortly after Annie left. I don't know.
• 1:38:58
  Oh, Speaking of Annie, we're about to get into something else
• 1:39:01
  here. Let's.
• 1:39:02
  But. Ben doesn't have Alicia to sit
• 1:39:06
  there and stand up for him and go into the battle against.
• 1:39:08
  We're taking advantage of the fact that Ben doesn't have
• 1:39:11
  Alicia to stand up. Oh my God.
• 1:39:13
  So this is like, Missy is just the dumbest.
• 1:39:15
  She has nothing to add. Like nothing.
• 1:39:17
  There's a holy fuck, holy fuck. Don't forget that Taylor Taylor
• 1:39:23
  was the one going around calling Alicia a whore, but now all of a
• 1:39:26
  sudden these two are buddy fucking buddy because Bad Ben,
• 1:39:28
  right? I won't say.
• 1:39:29
  How are they buddy? Buddy.
• 1:39:32
  Maybe it you know you and I find funny.
• 1:39:35
  Why were they calling each other whores?
• 1:39:37
  Hmm, I wonder. Maybe it was because Ben was
• 1:39:39
  fucking 2, timing them and turning them against each other.
• 1:39:45
  And now that they realize what kind of fucking person Ben is,
• 1:39:50
  they realize that their petty dislike for each other was
• 1:39:56
  stupid and it was based on a guy who was a fucking piece of shit
• 1:40:00
  in the 1st place. What are you talking about,
• 1:40:02
  Missy? You don't understand this.
• 1:40:05
  You, you've never, you've never seen two women who hate each
• 1:40:11
  other because because of a guy before.
• 1:40:14
  And then the guy fucking, you know, turns out to be a piece of
• 1:40:17
  shit and they both realize, oh, why were we fighting again?
• 1:40:22
  And they're not even buddy buddy, they're just not shitting
• 1:40:25
  on each other anymore. I don't think they're BFFS or
• 1:40:29
  anything now. Like what the fuck?
• 1:40:35
  Like I'm not one and I know Jeff would.
• 1:40:37
  Jeff would never victim blame or anything like that.
• 1:40:40
  That is something I we're not trying to do.
• 1:40:42
  Jeff would never victim blame, except that's exactly what he's
• 1:40:45
  what he's doing. That's exactly what this entire
• 1:40:47
  fucking stream is. Victim blaming and and and what
• 1:40:52
  what they they stayed with him afterwards.
• 1:40:59
  Fucking dishonest fucking piece of shit.
• 1:41:02
  Not only is is Jeff victim blaming, Jeff is a rape
• 1:41:06
  apologist as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:41:12
  Do here let's say if you got proof.
• 1:41:13
  Whatever here I'm going to. Show it.
• 1:41:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. If I have proof, show it apart.
• 1:41:20
  I bet you will. I bet you will.
• 1:41:26
  I promise you if you show me proof that man.
• 1:41:28
  Right. Wait, that he raped.
• 1:41:31
  OK, see what proof again then, Ben?
• 1:41:33
  So you say, oh, show me proof and you'll believe it.
• 1:41:35
  The proof's on my channel. There's two fucking witness
• 1:41:37
  testimonies. And there's more that I've
• 1:41:39
  talked to, some of which I really hope you guys haven't
• 1:41:42
  scared away from coming up, coming on soon, because there's
• 1:41:46
  more that want to come on and tell their stories.
• 1:41:48
  All right? And Alicia has sent you fucking
• 1:41:52
  DMS. Alicia has told you her fucking
• 1:41:55
  story. What?
• 1:41:56
  What evidence do you need to see?
• 1:41:58
  Oh, evidence that That he raped someone.
• 1:42:00
  What evidence do you expect to see, Pimp?
• 1:42:03
  You wouldn't even watch the fucking streams, Pimp.
• 1:42:06
  What evidence? What evidence do you want to
• 1:42:08
  see? It's on my channel.
• 1:42:10
  Go watch it. This does prove he hasn't
• 1:42:13
  watched anything. No, he brags about it.
• 1:42:15
  Pimp has bragged that either I'm not.
• 1:42:17
  What? I ain't watching Jamie stream.
• 1:42:19
  No, I ain't gonna watch that shit.
• 1:42:21
  I don't. I don't watch that drama.
• 1:42:23
  Shit. I'm going to ignore it.
• 1:42:30
  If you ignore the drama, it goes away.
• 1:42:34
  Yeah. Yeah, except this isn't going
• 1:42:37
  away, pimp. You want to continue to play
• 1:42:40
  dumb? You, you you want to continue to
• 1:42:43
  act like you? You you just don't know what's
• 1:42:45
  good. What?
• 1:42:46
  Yeah. I'm just being reasonable.
• 1:42:47
  I'll listen to both sides. Alicia has tried to go to you
• 1:42:52
  with her story and you've ignored her and you've shit on
• 1:42:56
  her and your friends have shit on her.
• 1:43:00
  Your, your, your, your channel has become a platform for
• 1:43:04
  shitting on her and and invalidating her story.
• 1:43:09
  Go fuck yourself, pimp. All right, here's Jeff's opinion
• 1:43:23
  on Taylor and why she's doing this.
• 1:43:25
  Let's let's listen. That he's a fucking Angel,
• 1:43:29
  right? Yeah.
• 1:43:30
  Bit of a man whore if you ask a look.
• 1:43:32
  Bit of a man whore but dude fucking all the OGDP people were
• 1:43:35
  man whores and I mean all of them.
• 1:43:38
  I honestly don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck who was just
• 1:43:42
  a man whore. He's not a man whore.
• 1:43:44
  There's there's difference between a man, between being a
• 1:43:46
  man whore and being a predatory abusive asshole that date rapes
• 1:43:51
  women, that gets them drunk and high out of their mind, that
• 1:43:55
  gets them black out multiple times so you can fuck them.
• 1:44:00
  That's not just being a man whore.
• 1:44:06
  That's got a little bit in that fame.
• 1:44:07
  I'll keep a man whore all over America because oh, that's no
• 1:44:10
  more. He got a little bit of attention
• 1:44:12
  and and in the girlfriend, yeah. I mean, it's just like fucking
• 1:44:15
  I've I've even had like the OGDP, like the first time I did
• 1:44:18
  AI did a meet up and met the guys like they yeah, I don't to
• 1:44:21
  to be around in my in my opinion, this is basically what
• 1:44:25
  happened with Taylor. This is my opinion.
• 1:44:27
  Her and Ben just didn't fucking work out and I don't know why.
• 1:44:31
  I don't know why. And maybe Ben kind of let her
• 1:44:32
  on. I don't know.
• 1:44:33
  Maybe it was a jerk. I don't know.
• 1:44:34
  And if he was, well, bad Ben, but also not fucking illegal.
• 1:44:37
  The shit that's going on now, it's out of fucking hand and
• 1:44:39
  it's disgusting and it's fucked up.
• 1:44:40
  But it's clear it didn't. It wasn't just that it didn't
• 1:44:44
  work. Listen again, listen to Taylor's
• 1:44:48
  story. And again, like, even if, by the
• 1:44:52
  way, I want to make this clear because people keep saying, oh,
• 1:44:54
  this isn't illegal or that's not illegal, I don't care.
• 1:44:57
  Even if it turns out that what pimp didn't do is did what what
• 1:45:02
  Ben did is technically not illegal, that doesn't make it
• 1:45:06
  right. That doesn't make it OK.
• 1:45:08
  A lot of what Onision did was technically not illegal.
• 1:45:13
  Doesn't make it OK Doesn't make it not scummy.
• 1:45:17
  But by the way, yeah, getting someone black out out of their
• 1:45:21
  fucking mind, pressuring them to drink and and do drugs the first
• 1:45:26
  time you meet so you can fuck them while while they're fucking
• 1:45:28
  blacking out. Yeah.
• 1:45:30
  Yeah, that is illegal. That is, Yeah.
• 1:45:35
  That fits the definition of rape.
• 1:45:37
  Yeah. Come on, guys.
• 1:45:46
  In Ben's defense, we've all passed out after sniffing a
• 1:45:50
  glass of wine. Yeah, yeah, a glass and two,
• 1:45:56
  maybe 3 glasses of wine and a little bit of weed is going to
• 1:46:01
  make you black the fuck out the fuck out of here.
• 1:46:10
  And shame fucking on you Jesus fucking.
• 1:46:13
  Christ. And there is another, I don't
• 1:46:14
  know if you don't mention that person, I don't like saying
• 1:46:17
  angels. But there's another person that
• 1:46:18
  was behind the scenes with DP and being for a long time, got
• 1:46:20
  fired, got fired, got really pissed off.
• 1:46:22
  And this person? So this person that they're
• 1:46:25
  referring to this is hilarious. I love it.
• 1:46:27
  Again, all their facts are wrong.
• 1:46:29
  So Annie, who is formerly known as animancer Anna, Anna Haven.
• 1:46:34
  All right, my Co host on under Haven was not fired.
• 1:46:41
  Was not fired by Ben. Annie worked for Ben for a long
• 1:46:47
  ass time and was considering leaving for weeks and a couple
• 1:46:54
  months even me and Annie would talk about it and they're like,
• 1:46:57
  I, I can't stand it. I, I hate it.
• 1:46:59
  I hate the way that it's like, I don't want to leave though.
• 1:47:02
  I, I don't know that it's, it's going to be a good idea.
• 1:47:04
  I don't know. And he was going, they were
• 1:47:07
  going back and forth on it until finally again, Ben gave Annie
• 1:47:11
  the ultimatum of, you know, it's either me or it's Jay Jamie.
• 1:47:19
  Ben basically told Annie, you're not allowed to stream with Jamie
• 1:47:24
  Darkay, with Jay Darkay at the time not allowed to stream with
• 1:47:27
  me because Ben didn't like me. Ben didn't like that I was
• 1:47:32
  critical of him. That is when Annie quit.
• 1:47:37
  Annie left and said I'm not doing this anymore.
• 1:47:43
  They always want to skip over that part and lie about it and
• 1:47:45
  act like Annie was fired. Annie left of their own goddamn
• 1:47:50
  accord because they were sick and tired of being mistreated by
• 1:47:53
  Ben. So yeah, here.
• 1:48:00
  Let's see what else they say. It's been trying to destroy and
• 1:48:03
  take down and do anything that they can to make sure that, you
• 1:48:06
  know, DP goes under. They don't want to see DP heavy.
• 1:48:09
  And he didn't want DP to go under either.
• 1:48:11
  In fact, Annie didn't even want to address a lot of this and he
• 1:48:15
  kind of just wanted to move on and and live their life and not
• 1:48:19
  have to relive the fucking shit that Ben put them through when
• 1:48:22
  they when they were a part of DP.
• 1:48:26
  But the worse this shit gets, the more victims that come
• 1:48:31
  forward, the harder it gets for us to ignore this.
• 1:48:33
  Again, This is why me and Annie haven't been doing these streams
• 1:48:36
  together. Originally we we thought about
• 1:48:38
  maybe interviewing the victims together, but Annie doesn't want
• 1:48:43
  to be reliving this every day. And I don't blame them because
• 1:48:48
  Ben put Annie through a shitty fucking time as well.
• 1:48:56
  Again, definitely not as bad as others, but.
• 1:49:11
  Yeah, no, Alicia just DM Ed me to let me know that yeah, she's
• 1:49:17
  already showed Missy proof multiple times that that she's
• 1:49:21
  full of shit. She didn't propagate rumors
• 1:49:25
  about Missy killing someone. She's already showed proof that
• 1:49:30
  she even told tragic the the exact opposite.
• 1:49:33
  But yeah, Missy wants to keep propagating this shit 'cause she
• 1:49:36
  is a liar. Absolutely.
• 1:49:46
  Any success? They especially don't want to
• 1:49:47
  see Ben having any success. And it happens to be a person
• 1:49:49
  extremely close to Jamie Dark. I don't think we all know who
• 1:49:51
  the fuck we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:49:53
  I mean, and you know, the thing that's really frustrating about
• 1:49:55
  it too, is I tried to be I tried to be cool with with Jamie Dark
• 1:49:58
  on behest of that person too. But I'm sorry, Jamie Dark is an
• 1:50:01
  insufferable, insufferable fucking cunt.
• 1:50:03
  I I That's just the truth of the what's.
• 1:50:04
  So insufferable about me. Dude, you don't know me.
• 1:50:07
  I, I can promise you've never like actually sat and watched
• 1:50:10
  one of my streams. Even if I, even if you say that
• 1:50:13
  you've watched my entire fucking stream with a a a Taylor, which
• 1:50:18
  I don't believe you did. What?
• 1:50:21
  What does that tell you about me other than oh, oh, I'm attacking
• 1:50:25
  your friend? Oh, I'm such an insufferable
• 1:50:28
  fucking piece of shit. Like get out of here.
• 1:50:30
  What are these weak ass attacks you have?
• 1:50:33
  You have nothing to come at me on, dude.
• 1:50:37
  Like literally nothing. Oh wait, they're they're about
• 1:50:40
  to wait. Are they about to get into it?
• 1:50:41
  Let me see. Matter.
• 1:50:44
  I mean, for fuck's sake, Jamie at one point saw a picture of me
• 1:50:47
  in my car holding a sealed can of white cloth and I I captioned
• 1:50:50
  it. Ain't no laws and you're doing
• 1:50:51
  claws. And Jamie said I was supporting
• 1:50:53
  drunk driving. So no, at first of all, it
• 1:50:58
  wasn't. I love dude.
• 1:50:59
  They do this. Oh my God.
• 1:51:01
  They always accuse me of guilt by association of doing guilt
• 1:51:04
  by, but I never do it and they always do.
• 1:51:07
  Chess was the one who commented on his fucking stupid ass
• 1:51:12
  picture and said that's kind of dumb.
• 1:51:15
  I don't know why you would take that that kind.
• 1:51:17
  No one said you're supporting drunk driving.
• 1:51:19
  It was like no. It just kind of makes it look
• 1:51:22
  like that. This isn't a smart thing to
• 1:51:23
  post. That's what Chess said and then
• 1:51:27
  I reiterated I commented later after he fucking lost his shit
• 1:51:31
  on it. Yeah, sitting in the front seat
• 1:51:34
  of a car with a a thing of alcohol in your hand and saying
• 1:51:38
  ain't no law when you're drinking the claw.
• 1:51:40
  What do you think that sounds like it means?
• 1:51:43
  Maybe Jeff is too fucking dumb to understand.
• 1:51:47
  Like what most people would glean from that me say, hey,
• 1:51:54
  look at me guys, I'm sitting in the front seat of my fucking car
• 1:51:57
  with a can of alcohol talking about how I don't care about the
• 1:52:00
  law. What do you think that sounds
• 1:52:03
  like? And aside from all of that, it
• 1:52:07
  was cringe. It was a cringy fucking picture.
• 1:52:10
  I don't know if you were meaning.
• 1:52:11
  I don't know if it was some zoomer meme, some, some fucking
• 1:52:15
  some fucking ignore me ass. I don't know what you were
• 1:52:18
  doing, but Chess laughed at it 'cause she thought it was dumb.
• 1:52:21
  No one called you a drunk driver, no one said you support
• 1:52:24
  drunk driving. We just thought it was a fucking
• 1:52:27
  dumb photo to take, all right? All right, let's let's listen to
• 1:53:07
  some more. You out of your fucking mind?
• 1:53:12
  What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you out of your mind?
• 1:53:16
  That was a dumb picture to take. All right, fuck off.
• 1:53:18
  Jamie piece of shit. Jamie is a piece of shit.
• 1:53:20
  And you've been triggered by it ever since.
• 1:53:22
  I'm a piece of shit. Again, Where's the evidence of
• 1:53:24
  me being a piece of shit? Where's the what?
• 1:53:26
  Like what? What have I done that makes me a
• 1:53:28
  piece of shit? Like, aside from believe some
• 1:53:33
  fucking abuse victims that, that, that, that are accusing a
• 1:53:36
  friend of yours. I guess I can kind of understand
• 1:53:39
  that. Yeah, they view me as a piece of
• 1:53:41
  shit 'cause I'm attacking their friend.
• 1:53:43
  But like, what? What?
• 1:53:45
  Like what? What do you have on me outside
• 1:53:48
  of that? What have I done outside of
• 1:53:49
  that? Even if you want to say I'm
• 1:53:51
  wrong about Ben, what have I done to show you that I'm a
• 1:53:56
  piece of shit? Chasing ass no talent.
• 1:54:02
  Insufferable and obnoxious ass motherfucker.
• 1:54:04
  By the way, that's not what you said when you came on my show
• 1:54:07
  and you said you're going to be big someday.
• 1:54:09
  Jamie or Jay at the time, which he actually says that to
• 1:54:13
  everyone whose show he goes on. Yeah, now I'm some no talent
• 1:54:18
  fucking piece of shit. Me dishonest and you walk around
• 1:54:22
  the Internet with a fake UK accent for how many fucking
• 1:54:24
  years when you never lived in the fucking UK?
• 1:54:25
  But I'm dishonest right? Why in the fuck I I even had?
• 1:54:28
  I just, just because I know I was gonna bring it up, I had to
• 1:54:30
  go and download like a bunch of videos of Jamie Dark talking the
• 1:54:32
  fake English fucking accent. Why?
• 1:54:34
  Why? Why'd you have to download
• 1:54:36
  those? Hey Jeff, again, I know you
• 1:54:37
  don't pay attention to my channel or my content or know
• 1:54:40
  anything about me, but again, this is something that I have
• 1:54:44
  talked about at length on my channel.
• 1:54:47
  I've gone in depth into why I used to speak with that accent.
• 1:54:51
  I even got, I've gone so far that I now joke about it and I
• 1:54:54
  laugh about it on a lot of my patron streams.
• 1:54:57
  I show my old videos from back when I had the accent and I
• 1:55:02
  laugh about it and I say, Oh my fucking God, I can't believe it.
• 1:55:06
  I was that fucking cringy. Even though like, I, I, I, I'm,
• 1:55:12
  I'm not going to apologize for using the accent all right?
• 1:55:16
  Again, I've explained why I did it.
• 1:55:19
  All right. Again, if anyone doesn't
• 1:55:22
  understand this, I grew up with a lot of fucking trauma and I
• 1:55:34
  had a lot of trouble coming to terms with my identity.
• 1:55:38
  And I was talking about this a little bit last night.
• 1:55:39
  Another thing that I didn't mention that adds on to it, I
• 1:55:43
  had an abusive father which I've talked about before and I hated
• 1:55:49
  my voice for an I hated my identity.
• 1:55:52
  I hated looking at myself in the mirror.
• 1:55:53
  I hated everything about myself. I, I, I wanted to fucking kill
• 1:55:57
  myself. I was extremely suicidal and had
• 1:56:00
  a lot of self loathing. And one of the things that I
• 1:56:03
  hated about myself was that I sounded like my father.
• 1:56:07
  I hated that I had my father's voice.
• 1:56:11
  And I also knew that I hated my identity and I wanted to be
• 1:56:16
  anything else. So yeah, I built up a false
• 1:56:19
  persona around myself. Yeah.
• 1:56:21
  I put on an accent and I, I, I started, you know, altering my
• 1:56:26
  personality as a defense mechanism because I was scared.
• 1:56:31
  I was scared to admit who I was about myself.
• 1:56:35
  I, I, I, I was, I was scared to just be myself.
• 1:56:38
  I, I needed a defense. I needed a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,
• 1:56:43
  an armor around me. And you can say that's dumb and
• 1:56:48
  it's really stupid and whatever you can say it's dishonest.
• 1:56:53
  But I, I made that decision when I was a teenager.
• 1:56:59
  I'm, I made the decision. I, I can't remember when I, when
• 1:57:01
  I, I started speaking that way widely, but I pretty much made
• 1:57:06
  the decision when I was like 16 or 17.
• 1:57:11
  And I just started talking with the accent and I, I, just, what
• 1:57:17
  was I going to do? Like most of my friends, most
• 1:57:19
  people that knew me knew me as having the accent.
• 1:57:21
  And when people would always ask where it came from, I would
• 1:57:23
  always defend it in one way or another.
• 1:57:25
  Or I'd, I, I, I didn't like talking about it for the most
• 1:57:27
  part, but I, I'd be like, this is just how I talk.
• 1:57:30
  And it was, it was how I talked. I, I, I spent a lot of time
• 1:57:36
  watching nothing but like British shit.
• 1:57:40
  And I don't know, I, I kind of, I liked the accent and it came
• 1:57:44
  naturally to me. And I was very heavily
• 1:57:47
  influenced by a lot of British entertainers, a lot of British
• 1:57:51
  comedians and, you know, British Youtubers even like, I, I was,
• 1:58:00
  you know, I, I, I, I felt a connection to them to, to, to,
• 1:58:05
  to that culture that I didn't have, I didn't have that
• 1:58:08
  culture. That's the thing.
• 1:58:10
  I, I, I wasn't a part of that culture.
• 1:58:12
  And, but like I, I, I felt I, I, I want it to be and I want it to
• 1:58:17
  be anything but my fucking self. So I held on to that identity
• 1:58:22
  that I built for myself. Acting like that proves I'm some
• 1:58:28
  kind of piece of shit or that I'm dishonest, especially when
• 1:58:31
  I've been very dishonest. I've been very honest about it
• 1:58:36
  since I've been talking about it.
• 1:58:38
  I mean, I've had, I'll be honest since I first came out.
• 1:58:42
  I've, I've given you guys little bits and pieces of the accent
• 1:58:46
  story because I, I didn't want to do it's not, it's not a
• 1:58:48
  comfortable thing to, for me to talk about, all right.
• 1:58:51
  It's just not because there's layers to it.
• 1:58:54
  And, and it's, it's again, related to my internalized
• 1:58:57
  transphobia. It's related to my, my, my
• 1:59:00
  abusive upbringing and, and you know, and at the end of the day,
• 1:59:06
  it was a cringy decision I made when I was a child, when I was a
• 1:59:10
  teenager. Holy fuck, this has turned into
• 1:59:16
  a shitty bitch bitch fest about Jamie.
• 1:59:17
  Yeah, well, because they have to discredit me.
• 1:59:21
  They have to make me look like a, like a, like a worthless
• 1:59:23
  clout chasing, dishonest piece of shit.
• 1:59:26
  Because that's the only way to ensure that most people who are
• 1:59:33
  already on these people's sides, most people who already like Ben
• 1:59:36
  and these other people just completely discount my stream,
• 1:59:41
  don't even go take a look at it. That's that's that's the goal
• 1:59:44
  here. They don't want people to even
• 1:59:45
  come take a look. They want the cringy ass Jamie
• 1:59:49
  Darkay. Why would I go watch her?
• 1:59:55
  Like it's absolutely, yeah, like it, it's, it's completely
• 1:59:59
  unfounded and bullshit and really weak, really weak, weak
• 2:00:03
  ass attacks, yo. Just in case.
• 2:00:09
  Just in case she decides to, like, scrub it off the fucking
• 2:00:10
  Internet because holy fuck is the most goddamn funny shit on
• 2:00:13
  the planet. Holy.
• 2:00:13
  Is it? Yeah, I've, I've laughed on it
• 2:00:15
  about it on my channel too. I don't think it's that funny,
• 2:00:18
  but I think it's a little like, yeah, you know, there's even a
• 2:00:21
  video that's on my channel that's clipped from a patron
• 2:00:24
  show where I start off by taking a drink for the cringy accent in
• 2:00:29
  the old video I'm watching. And, you know, yeah, I've joked
• 2:00:34
  about it, but also, Jeff, see, I don't scrub things off the
• 2:00:40
  Internet. I've been really honest about my
• 2:00:43
  accent. I haven't hidden it, haven't
• 2:00:45
  deleted old content from before I, I, I transitioned and started
• 2:00:49
  talking like this. I I haven't deleted anything.
• 2:00:52
  I'm not I'm not Ben, honestly, yeah, I, I don't need to go
• 2:00:56
  scrub my past. I'm not that afraid of it.
• 2:00:59
  I mean, there's certain things that are down that are private
• 2:01:01
  now on my channel because there's shit that I don't stand
• 2:01:04
  by and that would also get me in trouble with YouTube.
• 2:01:07
  So I I take it down. But and, and because there's
• 2:01:12
  content on my channel that has other people that, you know,
• 2:01:15
  don't want to be associated with me anymore.
• 2:01:17
  So I I'm not going to, you know, I, I'm not going to like put my
• 2:01:22
  videos and shit of ex Co hosts that I'm not on good terms with,
• 2:01:26
  you know, there, there's just no point.
• 2:01:31
  But like, I'm not hiding anything.
• 2:01:33
  I'm very honest about my past. Ask me anything.
• 2:01:36
  You want to know something about me, Jeff, come and ask me.
• 2:01:39
  I'll tell you. All right.
• 2:01:41
  I don't need to hide shit. All right, you know what?
• 2:01:50
  I'm not even going to show this part.
• 2:01:52
  They they start showing Amin as DMS.
• 2:01:56
  It's it's the same story as Taylor.
• 2:01:58
  Like, oh, look at her flirting with Ben.
• 2:02:00
  Look at her talking to Ben still, although there's here's
• 2:02:06
  something weird. See, you can't even make out
• 2:02:11
  these fucking screenshots. Wait, where is it, 33?
• 2:02:19
  All right, Yeah, So what? He points out this screenshot
• 2:02:23
  where she goes. I won't.
• 2:02:24
  I won't retaliate or anything against you, so don't worry.
• 2:02:29
  All right, listen. Listen to their take on this.
• 2:02:31
  Here's that one. This one's this is juicy.
• 2:02:33
  I won't retaliate or anything against you, so don't worry.
• 2:02:35
  Don't worry. How the fuck did that turn out?
• 2:02:39
  Well, maybe she realized that was a dumb promise to make
• 2:02:41
  because she actually was mistreated.
• 2:02:45
  She actually was mistreated. And you know, yeah.
• 2:02:48
  Why are we here? Why are we here?
• 2:02:50
  Why do? You even need to say the fucking
• 2:02:51
  thing. I won't retaliate against you.
• 2:02:53
  Like, who thinks about retaliating against like, just
• 2:02:56
  the fact that you had to say that sentence?
• 2:02:57
  Yeah, no, Missy, that's actually a good .0.
• 2:03:00
  I love it guys. I love it.
• 2:03:02
  Every time Missy speaks, she get she she she makes my arguments
• 2:03:06
  for me. Yeah, why would she have to say
• 2:03:10
  that? Why by the way, is that look,
• 2:03:14
  it's, it's clear he like searched for it to to find it
• 2:03:17
  and screenshot just that he didn't show the context of the
• 2:03:20
  broader conversation. He didn't show what the fuck
• 2:03:23
  they were talking about. He just showed that.
• 2:03:28
  Why would she have to say that? How fucked was their
• 2:03:30
  relationship that she had to go like, yeah, it's fine, I won't
• 2:03:34
  retaliate against you. How much did he have to have
• 2:03:37
  been harassing her? Like oh, don't don't do this or
• 2:03:39
  don't say that. She already both the victims
• 2:03:44
  have have described how when they tried to break up, how how
• 2:03:53
  he was like harassing them and and, you know, messaging them
• 2:03:58
  every five fucking seconds and like begging them to get into
• 2:04:04
  voice calls so we can fucking whine at them for hours.
• 2:04:08
  Really weird, fucked up behavior.
• 2:04:11
  Yeah. I wonder why she would have to
• 2:04:12
  say that. I wonder why you fucking people,
• 2:04:18
  you, you think you have a smoking gun and literally all
• 2:04:21
  you, all you're doing is shooting yourselves in the
• 2:04:23
  fucking foot. I can't believe Ben let Jeff do
• 2:04:27
  this fucking stream. Holy shit, what an idiot.
• 2:04:32
  This only makes like everything that they think is like, you
• 2:04:35
  know, making Ben look better just makes him look worse.
• 2:04:37
  This is this is really funny. It really is.
• 2:04:40
  Guys. Here, let's see 30.
• 2:04:49
  OK, there we go. Go over here it's.
• 2:04:51
  This is just complimentary stuff.
• 2:04:52
  It'll all be in the archive, but this is something that I think
• 2:04:54
  is kind of important to to point out too.
• 2:04:56
  There's a couple of things that are that are really important.
• 2:04:58
  Three points. Amina claimed that it was very
• 2:05:00
  creepy that Ben was so much older than her.
• 2:05:02
  Yet a very quick browse of her Twitter, she has had I think at
• 2:05:05
  least three boyfriends in the past that are significantly
• 2:05:07
  older than Ben. That proves nothing.
• 2:05:12
  She pointed out that she thought it was weird that someone not
• 2:05:14
  much older than her was like, you know, approaching her like
• 2:05:22
  as a, as a fan and, and, and, you know, I, I think it was kind
• 2:05:25
  of weird too. If she's gotten into
• 2:05:28
  relationships with other older men, I, that's none of my
• 2:05:31
  business. I'm not a fan of age gaps that
• 2:05:34
  large. But, you know, maybe it's
• 2:05:36
  something she's come to terms with later.
• 2:05:38
  I that that's that proves nothing but OK, keep going Jeff.
• 2:05:48
  Like significantly on top of that.
• 2:05:50
  And besides, who gives a shit as long as it's fucking legal?
• 2:05:52
  I also don't know that you've proved it or not, but like, OK.
• 2:05:56
  Also who gives a shit as long as it's legal?
• 2:05:59
  No, I think there's some. I think there's shit that fall
• 2:06:02
  in legal Gray areas. If you want.
• 2:06:03
  To think that are still kind of fucked up, all right?
• 2:06:06
  And I still think gross behavior needs to be called out and
• 2:06:10
  talked about. Like I said, even if this shit
• 2:06:13
  wasn't illegal, I'd still probably be talking about this.
• 2:06:16
  I was talking about this before I knew that anything illegal
• 2:06:18
  happened. And I wasn't saying anything
• 2:06:19
  illegal happened until I realized that it did.
• 2:06:23
  But, you know, yeah, disgusting, creepy, gross, manipulative,
• 2:06:29
  emotionally abusive behavior is still fucked.
• 2:06:31
  It's not OK. All right.
• 2:06:36
  Let's let's continue. Yeah, but it's.
• 2:06:38
  Still not a fucking illegal thing.
• 2:06:41
  It's not creepy is not legal. Creepy is not crime.
• 2:06:43
  Doesn't make him a criminal and it doesn't make him a rapist.
• 2:06:45
  No, it definitely fucking doesn't.
• 2:06:47
  No, him date raping women makes him a rapist him and again,
• 2:06:53
  allegedly, all right, we don't know that he slept anything in
• 2:06:56
  these women's drinks, but kind of sounds like it kind of
• 2:07:00
  fucking sounds like it. And that is illegal.
• 2:07:05
  And again, whether or not this is a this shit is illegal anyway
• 2:07:08
  needs to be talked about. Ben can't keep hiding this shit.
• 2:07:12
  Like if he wants to use the defense that what I didn't do
• 2:07:15
  anything illegal, guys, I I'm not I'm not a I'm not a
• 2:07:18
  criminal, guys. I didn't break the law.
• 2:07:21
  I mean, fine. You want to make the onision
• 2:07:23
  argument? I mean, the the argument that
• 2:07:26
  Onision was making for the longest ass time before it
• 2:07:28
  realized, Oh, he actually was dealing with underage girls and
• 2:07:33
  there actually was some fucked up shit that went on with him
• 2:07:35
  and Kai, You know, holy fuck, guys.
• 2:07:43
  Listen, she claimed that Ben got her removed from Reddit.
• 2:07:45
  Ben is not in control of Reddit. No one said that Ben got her
• 2:07:48
  removed from Reddit. He got her bullied off of the
• 2:07:51
  fucking DP discord server. If she got removed from Reddit
• 2:07:55
  later that's completely different.
• 2:07:56
  But like she was treated like garbage.
• 2:08:00
  She was attacked and bullied and harassed for just for bringing
• 2:08:05
  her fucking stories out out. And yeah like I I love it too
• 2:08:12
  because Ben is is is super quick to show little bits and snippets
• 2:08:16
  of DMS Amina and Taylor have both tried to go back and look
• 2:08:19
  at their old chat logs with Ben. They can't, it's gone.
• 2:08:23
  He deleted it, he made it so they can't go back and look at
• 2:08:25
  it. But he's got all the little
• 2:08:28
  fucking cherry picked DM saved that that that that he thinks
• 2:08:31
  will make him look better. But honestly it just ends up
• 2:08:34
  making him look worse. It it ends up corroborating some
• 2:08:37
  of the information from the stories.
• 2:08:39
  That last one from Amina just again, made it look like there
• 2:08:42
  was some. It, it, it, it.
• 2:08:45
  Well, all it did really was confirm the idea that there was
• 2:08:47
  some maybe weird fucked up shit going on with them or some
• 2:08:51
  reason why she might want to retaliate.
• 2:08:54
  You know, some reason why Ben might have been worried that she
• 2:08:57
  would retaliate. That's all it showed.
• 2:09:08
  Yeah. He deleted on our ends what you
• 2:09:12
  can do on Facebook. So we can't even show the other
• 2:09:14
  side. Yeah.
• 2:09:17
  I, I, I, I It's fucked. And then he deletes a bunch of
• 2:09:26
  shit from Twitter too. Yeah.
• 2:09:29
  All right. Ben does not have Reddit friends
• 2:09:41
  that can ban her from the entire tell you he can't control who
• 2:09:44
  gets banned. That's not Yeah, no one said he
• 2:09:46
  did. 3rd there was another part of the stream that she did with
• 2:09:49
  Jamie. Obnoxious goddamn mouth breather
• 2:09:50
  dark, but was it was really uncomfortable how sexually
• 2:09:53
  explicit Ben was in DMS. Yet by the things that I've
• 2:09:56
  already shown you. Well, she apparently was as
• 2:09:58
  well. But she said she was
• 2:10:01
  uncomfortable with how sexually explicit he was at 1st at first
• 2:10:06
  when they first met. She might have later again.
• 2:10:10
  Victims, a lot of victims try to regain their control by like,
• 2:10:15
  rationalizing it as no, no, no, this is a relationship.
• 2:10:18
  I didn't. I wasn't violated.
• 2:10:20
  I didn't. I, I, I didn't have my control
• 2:10:22
  stripped of me in that way. No, no, no, no.
• 2:10:23
  This is a real relationship. Again, I've already explained
• 2:10:26
  this earlier in the stream. People can go back.
• 2:10:30
  Again, I don't want to be here. I don't want.
• 2:10:32
  To be OK, yeah, let's skip ahead again.
• 2:10:34
  What was this Something I'll miss the end line again.
• 2:10:44
  Don't have a habit of presenting things with no evidence.
• 2:10:48
  You have a habit of hanging out with people who like to lie and
• 2:10:50
  present things with no evidence. I can pick out five people in
• 2:10:53
  Jamie's chat right now that I know have participated in
• 2:10:56
  revenge porn, who have threatened children, who have
• 2:10:59
  called Shabba Pedo pimpa rapist me a murderer.
• 2:11:02
  But you want all of us to believe what you got going on.
• 2:11:04
  So you want to call out people that are in my chat?
• 2:11:07
  First of all, yeah. What are these five people?
• 2:11:09
  At least five people in my chat? Do you mean 5 people who have
• 2:11:12
  ever been in my chat ever? I can't control who comes in my
• 2:11:15
  chat. I can tell you this if what
• 2:11:20
  you're saying is true, I'm not friends with those people.
• 2:11:23
  I've already told you I'm not friends with those people.
• 2:11:27
  You see, this is the there's no point.
• 2:11:29
  Missy Alicia has already showed Missy Anne proof that she's not
• 2:11:32
  friends with those people and that she didn't propagate that
• 2:11:35
  shit, but she still says this shit.
• 2:11:37
  Missy is a pathological liar. Like she's already had this
• 2:11:41
  explained to her a million fucking times.
• 2:11:44
  Like how the fuck how how the fuck does she not get this holy
• 2:11:51
  shit. Yeah.
• 2:11:54
  That makes me self-centered. Yeah, you are self-centered and
• 2:11:59
  no, I ain't sucking your gross ass clit, all right?
• 2:12:03
  Yeah, you are self-centered because you've been explained
• 2:12:05
  1,000,000 fucking times, bitch. I'm not.
• 2:12:08
  I'm not friends with everyone in my chat, and I'm not friends
• 2:12:11
  with everyone who covers one of my videos, and I'm not friends
• 2:12:15
  with everybody who also dislikes Ben.
• 2:12:18
  All right, I'm doing my thing here.
• 2:12:21
  I'm giving the victims a platform.
• 2:12:23
  That's it. I'm not in anyone's camp, and
• 2:12:27
  I've explained that to you a million fucking times, but
• 2:12:30
  you're never going to get it. It's never going to sink into
• 2:12:32
  your empty fucking head. So I don't know why I'd bother.
• 2:12:38
  Yeah, and they want to talk about like, oh, I talk about
• 2:12:40
  this shit with no proof. Except I do have proof.
• 2:12:43
  I have witness testimonies, which again, is what sunk
• 2:12:48
  Weinstein and Cosby. Never forget multiple women
• 2:12:53
  coming forward with similar stories.
• 2:12:57
  At what point how many women have to come forward before you
• 2:12:59
  start believing shit? I've presented.
• 2:13:07
  I've presented interviews, guys. I presented these women's
• 2:13:10
  stories to you. You want to not believe them?
• 2:13:12
  That's up to you. You want to say the evidence
• 2:13:15
  isn't sufficient? You want to say you don't
• 2:13:17
  believe the evidence, that's fine.
• 2:13:19
  But quit calling it not evidence.
• 2:13:21
  It's it's, it's getting old. All right, let's see.
• 2:13:34
  All the fucking his whole situation is Jamie Dart.
• 2:13:35
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely, Amy.
• 2:13:39
  I'm the biggest piece of shit. You know what?
• 2:13:41
  I honestly don't mind that they're directing all their hate
• 2:13:43
  and vitriol at me at least. At least it takes a little heat
• 2:13:46
  away from the victims. But it's fucked because they're
• 2:13:50
  attacking the victims too, so. Look, I'm going to, I'm going to
• 2:13:54
  reiterate this for the people who came in a little, a little
• 2:13:56
  late. It's real fucking simple.
• 2:13:58
  There is a group of people who have it out for fucking Ben.
• 2:14:00
  There's a group of people. See, you're already wrong.
• 2:14:03
  It's not a group of people who have it out for Ben.
• 2:14:05
  What's your proof of that? Dude?
• 2:14:07
  What's your proof that there's a group of people who just hate
• 2:14:10
  Ben so much that they want to destroy him?
• 2:14:13
  What was your proof of that? OK, continue.
• 2:14:21
  And you can identify them quite easily and quite expediently.
• 2:14:24
  And they all have their own dark, dark little and.
• 2:14:26
  Again, I'm not part of any group, I have my own opinions.
• 2:14:29
  Oh I can't stand Missy Ann. I can't stand her guys.
• 2:14:31
  I can't stand looking at her face.
• 2:14:33
  Holy shit she is such a pick me. This is really gross.
• 2:14:37
  I I forgot how cringy she was. Dude I forgot.
• 2:14:40
  I have not watched the wood in a long fucking time.
• 2:14:43
  Holy fucking shit this is like it's so painful.
• 2:14:47
  Pass as well. Fancy manager that you know
• 2:14:51
  really don't need to. Be oh, the fancy badger shit,
• 2:14:54
  yeah, we already talked about that.
• 2:14:55
  I'm I'm, I'm not going into that.
• 2:14:57
  They're trying to, again, always trying to deflect, bring up shit
• 2:15:00
  that other people did. Yeah, they won't.
• 2:15:03
  They're not even going into it here, so I'm not going to.
• 2:15:05
  Pointing any fucking fingers. Jamie Dark.
• 2:15:07
  Jamie Dark herself has enough troubling fucking things in her
• 2:15:09
  past you don't. Need to be waiting.
• 2:15:10
  Wait. Hey, wait, Jeff.
• 2:15:11
  What troubling things are in my past?
• 2:15:14
  What trouble? What do you want to tell?
• 2:15:15
  What do you want to tell people about me?
• 2:15:16
  I'm. I'm all out in the open.
• 2:15:18
  You want to talk about me? You want to talk about my past?
• 2:15:20
  Let's do it. You've said nothing except Jamie
• 2:15:23
  is cringy. Jamie is obnoxious.
• 2:15:27
  Jamie sucks. She's a piece of shit.
• 2:15:29
  She's a clout chaser. What have you said?
• 2:15:33
  What do you? What do you know about me?
• 2:15:34
  Dude, you don't know shit about me.
• 2:15:40
  Any goddamn fingers or things? But then to go on and field two
• 2:15:43
  different people with no evidence claiming that a very
• 2:15:45
  prominent YouTube. People telling their story,
• 2:15:47
  victims telling their stories, are evidence.
• 2:15:49
  Is a rapist, especially when I can, with their own fucking
• 2:15:51
  words, prove that their stories don't make any fucking.
• 2:15:54
  You don't, all you. No, you don't contradict a
• 2:15:56
  goddamn thing in their stories. Nope.
• 2:15:58
  What kind of a goddamn idiot are you JB?
• 2:16:00
  Are you really that fucking brain dead because I didn't
• 2:16:03
  counter? It you see, I'll be honest, I
• 2:16:06
  think you're the one that's brain dead here.
• 2:16:08
  Dude. I think you are affixing
• 2:16:11
  yourself to a sinking ship. And I think when all of this
• 2:16:16
  shit goes down, when all the dust settles, you're not going
• 2:16:18
  to be looking very good, Jeff. So keep being a rape apologist.
• 2:16:25
  Keep defending abusers. I, I, I don't care.
• 2:16:29
  I don't care about your fucking reputation.
• 2:16:32
  That's something you should care about.
• 2:16:34
  You see, I, I, I also don't get like, if this blows up in my
• 2:16:37
  face, whatever. I tried, I tried.
• 2:16:41
  I tried to get the stories out there.
• 2:16:43
  I tried to help the victims be heard.
• 2:16:45
  If I end up losing my fucking reputation and becoming nothing
• 2:16:49
  on this site, OK, I don't have a shit ton to lose anyway.
• 2:16:59
  But I'm more interested in doing what I believe is right.
• 2:17:03
  I'm more interested in giving victims a platform when no one
• 2:17:07
  else will. So, OK, let's move, let's let's
• 2:17:18
  go, let's jump a little more in. All right, there's a guys,
• 2:17:23
  there's a lot in this stream. There's a big chunk where
• 2:17:25
  there's like where they don't talk about anything, but there's
• 2:17:27
  a lot of points that I need to address.
• 2:17:33
  I'm way behind on this and just got here.
• 2:17:35
  Where to TJ Palm Scotty land on the drum.
• 2:17:37
  Are they Taylor Jamie at least associated with tragic?
• 2:17:39
  And so I don't think well, I don't think Taylor is associated
• 2:17:43
  tragic. I think Alicia is in a way I
• 2:17:45
  don't know. I'm not sure.
• 2:17:46
  I know that Rafi sangs out. No she isn't.
• 2:17:48
  She already showed you proof she's not.
• 2:17:49
  She's not friends with them. Jamie Darkin's chat there and we
• 2:17:53
  don't know who Rafi's hangs out with so.
• 2:17:55
  Rothfest is welcome to come into my chat until he does something
• 2:18:00
  that you know is fucked up, or until someone can prove to me
• 2:18:04
  that he's done something fucked up.
• 2:18:06
  Well, actually from what I've seen, I've heard that he's done
• 2:18:09
  some unsavory shit. I'm not friends with the dude.
• 2:18:12
  We've had him on Underhaven a couple times in the past.
• 2:18:14
  Haven't had him on recently. Again, I'm not going to kick the
• 2:18:17
  dude out of my chat. I don't kick most fucking pieces
• 2:18:21
  of shit that I don't like out of my chat unless they're being
• 2:18:24
  incredibly fucking dishonest and and bad faith or attacking
• 2:18:29
  victims. But I'm I'm yeah, there's people
• 2:18:34
  in my chat that I don't agree with or I'm I'm not friends
• 2:18:37
  with. Like it's stop with this kill by
• 2:18:39
  association shit. You're so dumb.
• 2:18:43
  Association, right, Jamie? I don't know.
• 2:18:44
  No, no, Missy, not guilt by association, because I said in
• 2:18:49
  my very first stream, I don't, I'm going to talk in this voice
• 2:18:52
  because I don't know if you can understand anything else.
• 2:18:55
  So listen real closely, Missy Anne, I told you in the first
• 2:19:00
  stream and in the second stream as well when I addressed you
• 2:19:04
  directly that I'm not doing guilt by association.
• 2:19:08
  I don't believe in it, but Oh my God, yeah, the the head tilts.
• 2:19:15
  I don't believe in guilt by association, Missy.
• 2:19:18
  What I criticized people for was very specific shitty behavior.
• 2:19:24
  What I criticized Pimmunk for was some shitty behavior.
• 2:19:28
  And I've already said that I'm not associated with these people
• 2:19:34
  and I have not propagated their rumors.
• 2:19:38
  Kay. Holy fuck.
• 2:19:50
  Guilt by Association, 4815. Then they decided to end the
• 2:20:01
  show and it got all fucking weird and complicated and shit
• 2:20:03
  and it was real far. That sucks.
• 2:20:04
  No tacos tonight. I'm just going to.
• 2:20:06
  We're not going to threaten anyone in this chat.
• 2:20:08
  We're not going to threaten violence towards anyone and
• 2:20:10
  unlike Jamie, I'm not going to allow that shit in the chat.
• 2:20:12
  I'm not gonna let boxing happen. I'm not gonna let people
• 2:20:14
  threaten violence to other people like she let happen to
• 2:20:16
  Rybee be. Like I let happen to Rybee Oh my
• 2:20:21
  God one of my viewers made a bad joke and y'all are gonna fuck
• 2:20:25
  it. Oh my God I let Rybee get get
• 2:20:28
  fucking threatened in my chat. Dude look a super inhuman.
• 2:20:36
  The dude who was in my chat who said that?
• 2:20:38
  First of all, I didn't see it because I don't pay attention to
• 2:20:40
  every little thing in the chat, especially when I'm in the
• 2:20:43
  middle of an interview or some other shit.
• 2:20:48
  But maybe one of my other mods should have like timed him out
• 2:20:53
  for it or whatever. But like, I also know the dude
• 2:20:56
  and I know that he was not fucking serious.
• 2:21:00
  I'm sorry if anyone thought that he was serious.
• 2:21:03
  I don't think it was a smart joke for him to make.
• 2:21:06
  He made a joke about Rybie needs to catch these hands or
• 2:21:09
  whatever. I, I don't know, like it's not a
• 2:21:12
  smart joke. I wouldn't have made it.
• 2:21:15
  I would have if if I would have told him don't make that kind of
• 2:21:18
  joke. I asked him to not make that
• 2:21:19
  kind of joke in the future because no, I'm not.
• 2:21:22
  I don't like when people are threatened or doxxed or
• 2:21:25
  whatever. And who got doxed in my chat
• 2:21:28
  either? I even though Ben's real name is
• 2:21:30
  out there, anytime anyone posts his name in my chat I delete it
• 2:21:34
  just because I don't want to get accused of doxing him.
• 2:21:38
  So yeah, fuck off. Holy shit.
• 2:21:41
  I. Think one of the biggest things
• 2:21:48
  I didn't want to clarify this. I think one of the one of the
• 2:21:50
  biggest reasons I have gotten a lot of big distaste for Jamie is
• 2:21:55
  Jeff knows this and I know this. If you're doing a stream of
• 2:21:57
  pockets, you're gonna present something like that.
• 2:21:59
  You're not. You're not supposed to do it
• 2:22:00
  unless you have proof. Right.
• 2:22:02
  Because it's. Witness testimony is proof.
• 2:22:06
  Pimp monk come on you're this is so weak.
• 2:22:11
  You people just make the same points over and over and over
• 2:22:14
  and like y'all just bring up the same shit.
• 2:22:22
  I've already refuted it. Yeah, I'm I'm done with this
• 2:22:24
  section. I'm let's, let's move on.
• 2:22:33
  Where you're lying. Well, here's the here's the
• 2:22:34
  problem with that is like, Jamie's got a great, a great
• 2:22:36
  retort for it. I I even heard her saying it
• 2:22:37
  herself. And she's like, does anybody
• 2:22:39
  know how often a rape prosecution actually happens?
• 2:22:41
  Yeah, I know it's awful and it sucks and it's fucked up, but
• 2:22:43
  that does not give you creative license to be like, well, I'm
• 2:22:45
  just going to say it anyway that way just in case it's true.
• 2:22:47
  And The thing is, too, Jay. I'm not saying it anyways, just
• 2:22:49
  in case it's true. I'm saying it because I've
• 2:22:51
  talked to enough victims who have accused Ben of the same
• 2:22:54
  thing. I've interviewed 2 of them and
• 2:22:57
  there's more coming out. So I.
• 2:23:01
  Mean, and this is probably the most important thing I know,
• 2:23:03
  Jamie's just losing her shit on her stream right now because I
• 2:23:05
  went over there under her chat and like fucking called her an
• 2:23:06
  idiot. Losing my shit.
• 2:23:08
  Oh no, I was kind of heated like Jeff was for a lot of this
• 2:23:11
  fucking strict. I love it, dude.
• 2:23:13
  It's the same thing that Paul did to me was just like, oh,
• 2:23:15
  look at Jamie, Jamie mad. Jamie's mad.
• 2:23:18
  What? You were mad when you first
• 2:23:20
  addressed me? Like, what is this?
• 2:23:23
  Are we not Youtubers? Do we not like ham it up a bit
• 2:23:30
  for performance value? Get mad, yell like should I just
• 2:23:36
  say that anytime you get mad on stream?
• 2:23:39
  Like don't. Come on.
• 2:23:40
  It's fucking I am a grown up going to say Jane is not going
• 2:23:45
  to eat it. If if like like hearing the
• 2:23:47
  actual debunking of this by the very words of the people that
• 2:23:49
  Jamie was feeling. Jamie's not going to be like,
• 2:23:51
  well, I was wrong. It's not the see again, he's
• 2:23:53
  just all he's doing is just doubling, tripling, quadrupling
• 2:23:56
  down on the fucking Weinstein defense.
• 2:23:58
  The Weinstein defense, they, the victims talk to the abuser after
• 2:24:03
  the victims talk to him after Ree.
• 2:24:05
  They had a relationship with him.
• 2:24:07
  Ree innocent, He's innocent. Oh my God, you're so dumb.
• 2:24:15
  Maybe he's got to do that. Well, it's a different opinion
• 2:24:17
  because Jamie has this ID. By the way, if I was proven
• 2:24:20
  wrong, I would be, I would absolutely come forward and say,
• 2:24:23
  Yep, I made a mistake. I was wrong.
• 2:24:26
  But you know what? I don't think I fucking am.
• 2:24:28
  I don't think all these different women that I've talked
• 2:24:30
  to are all fucking just just like, because they would have to
• 2:24:34
  be lying to me too. They would have had to be like
• 2:24:38
  all coordinating behind the scenes and lying to.
• 2:24:42
  I mean, I guess from your narrative, I'm with these people
• 2:24:46
  in coming up with these stories or whatever.
• 2:24:50
  I, I, I don't even know. I, I don't, I don't even fucking
• 2:24:53
  know what you guys think the situation is.
• 2:24:58
  But like, from my perspective, if this shit wasn't true, these
• 2:25:01
  women would have to all be lying to me.
• 2:25:04
  And they would have to like have some concerted effort behind the
• 2:25:06
  scenes that I don't know about to take down Ben, in which case
• 2:25:11
  they're using me. But I don't think that's
• 2:25:16
  happening either. I think that's ridiculous.
• 2:25:19
  But yeah, if that were to fucking be the case, I would
• 2:25:22
  absolutely come forward and say, OK, I was wrong.
• 2:25:25
  I was lied to. I, I was led to believe
• 2:25:29
  falsehoods. Yeah, because I'm intellectually
• 2:25:32
  honest, unlike you, Jeff, I'm willing to face the truth.
• 2:25:36
  I'm willing to face my mistakes. I'm willing to unlike Ben, I'm
• 2:25:39
  willing to fucking answer for my mistakes and not run and hide
• 2:25:43
  from them. So fuck off.
• 2:25:48
  Idea that the Internet is is real and that these that these
• 2:25:52
  things are, are not just like these ephemeral bullshit.
• 2:25:55
  When Jamie has ever respected Ben.
• 2:25:57
  No, never. But.
• 2:25:58
  Jamie, wait, when has Ben ever deserved my respect?
• 2:26:01
  What do you mean? Tell me when Jamie is ever
• 2:26:03
  respect. What?
• 2:26:04
  What are you talking about man? She adds nothing.
• 2:26:06
  She's so dumb. Oh my God, I don't owe Ben my
• 2:26:10
  respect. I've never owed Ben my respect
• 2:26:12
  however. So here's The funny thing.
• 2:26:14
  Show me when actually that that's the fucked up thing.
• 2:26:17
  I could probably actually go comb through my channel and find
• 2:26:21
  numerous sound bites of me saying I respect Ben.
• 2:26:25
  I respect, but literally those words I respect Ben.
• 2:26:28
  You will find me literally if you look guys to like old
• 2:26:31
  streams of me talking about my my criticisms of DP.
• 2:26:35
  You will hear me say almost every fucking time I don't like
• 2:26:39
  Ben. I don't disagree with what he's
• 2:26:41
  doing, but I respect him or I don't like what he's doing, but
• 2:26:44
  I like him as a person and I respect him.
• 2:26:47
  I have said so many times I have actually undeservedly given him
• 2:26:51
  my respect over the years just because he he was instrumental
• 2:26:56
  in starting the drunken peasants I have.
• 2:27:00
  So that's not even true. You don't even know what you're
• 2:27:03
  talking about. And Oh my God, I love how they
• 2:27:05
  talk about me as if they, like, know anything about me or pay
• 2:27:08
  attention to me, but they don't like it.
• 2:27:11
  It's Oh my God here. Why isn't Ben standing up for
• 2:27:20
  himself? Internet, Do you really think
• 2:27:22
  that's the wisest course of action when legal proceedings
• 2:27:24
  are drama streamers channel and and put the allegations out
• 2:27:26
  there on the Internet. Do you really think that's the
• 2:27:28
  wisest course of action when legal proceedings are happening?
• 2:27:30
  Are you fucking mental? What the fuck?
• 2:27:32
  First of all, it's not necessarily legal proceedings.
• 2:27:34
  The victims tried to go to the police and file a report.
• 2:27:38
  It went nowhere, as it often fucking does.
• 2:27:40
  And I waited, you dip shits. That's why I didn't come out
• 2:27:44
  about this shit right away. That's why I didn't tell
• 2:27:46
  Taylor's story or or anyone's stories right away.
• 2:27:50
  I waited because they were filing their shit and I knew
• 2:27:55
  then it probably wasn't going to go anywhere, but I stayed
• 2:27:58
  silent. I didn't do stream for a few
• 2:28:00
  weeks about this shit, but when it was clear it wasn't going
• 2:28:06
  anywhere, it became clear that no, just filing a police report
• 2:28:10
  is not the only course of action here.
• 2:28:12
  Coming out and and and and talking about these stories and
• 2:28:16
  not allowing the fucking abuser to hide them is the only course
• 2:28:21
  of action in situations like this.
• 2:28:23
  Again, what the fuck is the entire Me Too movement?
• 2:28:29
  I don't know, you guys probably don't even respect the me too
• 2:28:30
  movement. I know DP has shit on it a ton
• 2:28:32
  over the years. I figured that at least of like
• 2:28:36
  come to like the the the common popular position on it, which is
• 2:28:41
  that yeah, Me too at least does some good instead of believing
• 2:28:45
  the bullshit dishonest narrative that like Oh my God, me Too is
• 2:28:49
  just a movement for a bunch of women that are that are have a
• 2:28:52
  vendettas against men and want to ruin them.
• 2:28:55
  Get out of here. Regarding the to tailor sweater,
• 2:29:00
  illegal proceedings are happening.
• 2:29:02
  Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. Fire their lawyer.
• 2:29:05
  Because the first rule is. Don't talk about it.
• 2:29:07
  There's no lawyer involved. Burnt toast, you fucking
• 2:29:10
  dipshit. Stop.
• 2:29:11
  Inject. You don't know anything that's
• 2:29:13
  burnt toast. Come talk to me.
• 2:29:15
  If you want to know about this situation, come talk to me.
• 2:29:20
  We've had you on our fucking show recently.
• 2:29:22
  We've been friendly with you. The only reason that I didn't
• 2:29:25
  fucking bring this up to you when we were when you were on
• 2:29:30
  our show is because I didn't want to drag you into drama that
• 2:29:33
  had nothing to do with you. I didn't want you to force you
• 2:29:35
  to get involved in this shit if you didn't want to of your own
• 2:29:38
  volition. But since you're inject
• 2:29:40
  interjecting yourself here, burnt toast, why don't you do
• 2:29:43
  your fucking due diligence and go talk to the other side
• 2:29:46
  instead of just leaving our discord during the course of
• 2:29:50
  this stream and and and, you know, not trying.
• 2:29:56
  Did you watch my stream about with Taylor or did you just
• 2:29:59
  believe everything these fucking dip shits have been telling you
• 2:30:01
  the whole the whole night? And I think it's just look, I'm
• 2:30:04
  not even that mad at her because I think it's disgusting that
• 2:30:07
  they brought her on like this and and, you know, blindsided
• 2:30:11
  her with this drama and and are painting a very fucking weird
• 2:30:16
  picture, a very skewed picture of me in this situation and
• 2:30:22
  expecting her to like comment on it and and just go along with it
• 2:30:26
  as really fucked. So I'm not going to hold
• 2:30:29
  anything she said here against her in the long term, But just
• 2:30:32
  seriously toast. Like, you want to know what's
• 2:30:36
  going on? Talk to me and Annie.
• 2:30:39
  All right, At least at least do us the courtesy of hearing our
• 2:30:42
  fucking side of this shit instead of just believing all
• 2:30:45
  these dip shits. You know what, if the defense
• 2:30:49
  wants my my nice zip file here full of all this shit that I
• 2:30:52
  already showed, cool. Fucking go for it.
• 2:30:54
  Fucking go for it. Or just shut the fuck up and
• 2:30:56
  leave it alone. Look, maybe, maybe he was at.
• 2:30:58
  This this is, again, lawyers, this is a Me too case, all
• 2:31:01
  right? That this is, there's nothing
• 2:31:02
  else that we can't. This this isn't going to go
• 2:31:04
  anywhere legally. It's just not it's not.
• 2:31:09
  We've already showed you why. We've already gone over the
• 2:31:11
  statistics of why. We've already going over the
• 2:31:15
  fact that like that. Yeah.
• 2:31:15
  The the the they filed police reports that went nowhere.
• 2:31:19
  They always go nowhere. Dickhead to you or something
• 2:31:27
  like that, and you guys just split up and it just didn't
• 2:31:29
  fucking work out. It was four years ago.
• 2:31:31
  You're fucking married now. Get over it.
• 2:31:32
  What the fuck? My God, yeah, as as if abuse and
• 2:31:36
  and and shit can't take a long time.
• 2:31:40
  I've already gone over this shit.
• 2:31:43
  Victims a lot of time take a long time to come to terms with
• 2:31:45
  their fucking abuse. All right.
• 2:31:57
  You know what? I'm not even gonna address that.
• 2:32:00
  They were gonna talk about me. They got mad at me for bringing
• 2:32:03
  up the fact that or someone in the chat said something about
• 2:32:07
  tips. I don't whatever, I don't care.
• 2:32:09
  I don't care but pimp can ask for.
• 2:32:11
  I don't care that Pimp asks for tips.
• 2:32:12
  I'm not getting back into that. If people want to see my
• 2:32:15
  criticisms of pimp, the fact that he pressures his audience
• 2:32:18
  to donate and shames them and and shits on them when they
• 2:32:23
  don't don't I'm I've already explained all that.
• 2:32:25
  Y'all can go back and watch the pimp monk stream.
• 2:32:38
  Like I said, somebody wants to come on the show in a couple of
• 2:32:40
  days and retort, wow, you're welcome.
• 2:32:42
  Yep, Yep. But but now I will say this, if
• 2:32:45
  Jamie Darkey will come on children, I'll go cuss your ass
• 2:32:46
  out. I'm just like.
• 2:32:49
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you're welcome to come on
• 2:32:51
  and tell your side of shit, Jamie.
• 2:32:53
  You're just going to get cussed out.
• 2:32:55
  You're just, you're just not going to be able to get a
• 2:32:57
  fucking word in. We're just going to fucking
• 2:33:00
  yeah. Like, why would I waste my time?
• 2:33:02
  Like, why? Why would I waste my fucking
• 2:33:04
  time with you people? All right, again, like all I'm
• 2:33:12
  doing is giving people a platform to tell their fucking
• 2:33:14
  stories, and I'm giving my fucking two cents on it here and
• 2:33:17
  there every once in a while. Gross calling me a pathological.
• 2:33:24
  You're calling me self-centered. Oh yeah, man.
• 2:33:26
  You are self-centered, Jamie. Fucking dark.
• 2:33:29
  One of your victims has been the reason that I've been harassed
• 2:33:32
  for over a year and a half. No, she was.
• 2:33:35
  See, you're a liar. You're a liar, Alicia.
• 2:33:38
  Like now you're saying one of the victims was the reason you
• 2:33:40
  were back. So Alicia is the reason you were
• 2:33:43
  harassed and doxed? Really.
• 2:33:45
  You're blaming it on Alicia now? Like, holy fucking shit, dude.
• 2:33:52
  He'll invite you, but he won't. Come on and talk 10.
• 2:33:55
  No, see, that's the thing. If I went on, I'd probably be
• 2:33:57
  going on with Missy Anne. Pimp Monk Shabisky.
• 2:34:00
  No, no, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
• 2:34:04
  So I, so I, so they can like sit there and and, and not let me
• 2:34:07
  speak and, and you know, I, I'm not interested in that.
• 2:34:10
  All right, I, I'm, I'm telling no, they can come for you know
• 2:34:14
  what? How about this?
• 2:34:15
  If you all can prove to me that you all have sat through an
• 2:34:17
  entire one of my fucking streams, even at fucking 2X
• 2:34:20
  speed or whatever, that then maybe I'll consider it.
• 2:34:22
  All right, you guys don't listen to me.
• 2:34:24
  Why should I come and engage with you people?
• 2:34:33
  Oh, this is really gross. This part's really fucking
• 2:34:35
  gross. I and I, this is like the only
• 2:34:40
  thing I want to say about this particular person.
• 2:34:42
  I actually really love Alicia. Makes sense.
• 2:34:44
  She really doesn't like me anymore.
• 2:34:45
  And it's unfortunate that that's the case, but I still really
• 2:34:47
  like her and I still really care about her.
• 2:34:48
  Alicia had a bad breakup and she ran her mouth and she said some
• 2:34:51
  shit. And you know what?
• 2:34:51
  People need to vent and so you know that it fucking happens.
• 2:34:54
  Maybe she was keeping some some bad company.
• 2:34:56
  Honestly I think the people who were involved with this Jamie
• 2:34:57
  Dark and all this like allegation shit tried to fucking
• 2:34:59
  take advantage of her in her moment of pain.
• 2:35:01
  So we try. I love this narrative, guys.
• 2:35:04
  I love the narrative that I've been taking.
• 2:35:09
  I decided to take advantage of Alicia.
• 2:35:13
  Poor Alicia. She had a bad breakup and you
• 2:35:17
  know, she was upset about it and I came along and took advantage
• 2:35:22
  of her. No, Jeff, what happened was
• 2:35:26
  Alicia came forward and told her story and people like you and
• 2:35:37
  Missy Anne shot on her, bullied her, harassed her, and I was
• 2:35:45
  done sitting there watching it and not talking about it on my
• 2:35:51
  fucking channel. No one was talking about it.
• 2:35:54
  When Alicia came out with her story, I thought, hey, maybe at
• 2:35:57
  least someone will talk about this.
• 2:35:58
  And finally, like, you know, people will see what kind of
• 2:36:01
  person Ben is. And then instead she got shit on
• 2:36:06
  and treated like garbage by you, by you people.
• 2:36:13
  And I offered her a platform. I used my platform to, to, to
• 2:36:22
  amplify her story, which in turn got the attention of a lot of
• 2:36:28
  other victims of Ben who have since come forward to me and
• 2:36:32
  asked me for a or, or or a, you know, accepted my offer for a
• 2:36:37
  platform to talk about this if they would like to.
• 2:36:41
  Because no other platform would give this the time of fucking
• 2:36:45
  day. And y'all want to claim like, oh
• 2:36:53
  y'all, you love Alicia, you love Alicia.
• 2:36:56
  Except you people were the ones that were shitting on her the
• 2:36:59
  minute she came out with this. You people are the ones who have
• 2:37:02
  not stopped harassing her, not stopped giving her endless
• 2:37:05
  amounts of shit for telling her story.
• 2:37:09
  Go fuck yourselves. You people have been
• 2:37:13
  instrumental in, in, in, in a lot of Alicia's fucking bullshit
• 2:37:18
  that she's been put through since this shit.
• 2:37:24
  Holy fuck. Yeah.
• 2:37:28
  What is this show? A bunch of nobodies defending a
• 2:37:31
  rapist because they want to get a little bit of his fading
• 2:37:34
  limelight? Yeah, that's literally what's
• 2:37:38
  going on here. They call me a cloud chaser.
• 2:37:43
  Get out of here. And we all know why Pimp Monk
• 2:37:45
  continues to work with Ben even though Ben tells him who he is
• 2:37:49
  and isn't allowed to stream with.
• 2:37:50
  We all know why why why these people are so invested in
• 2:37:54
  defending their buddy the fuck out of here.
• 2:38:00
  I want nothing but the best for Alicia.
• 2:38:02
  I do. I legitimately think she's a
• 2:38:03
  sweetheart then. Stop attacking her, stop
• 2:38:07
  shitting on her. And then maybe I wouldn't have
• 2:38:09
  felt the need to do my fucking first stream in the fucking
• 2:38:12
  first place. Why didn't you, Jeff?
• 2:38:14
  Why didn't you give her a fucking platform to tell her
• 2:38:17
  story? Why didn't you listen or, and
• 2:38:21
  hear her out and and and and and let her fucking say her piece.
• 2:38:27
  Go fuck yourself, you dishonest fucking piece of garbage.
• 2:38:33
  Holy shit you dishonest fucking rape apologist.
• 2:38:44
  I'm not doing that time stamp Missy ends like we don't do
• 2:38:46
  guilt by association. I'm not in high school lol.
• 2:38:50
  Cut a fool me bitch. Holy fuck you're all the worst
• 2:38:57
  things I hated about fucking high school people like you.
• 2:39:00
  Holy fucking shit you are a child.
• 2:39:06
  Oh here we go. Let's look at this part.
• 2:39:08
  Missy gets mad because I called her transphobic.
• 2:39:11
  She really did say that. That's just favorite.
• 2:39:14
  I'm the mother of a trans child. I'll be transphobic again.
• 2:39:18
  You're transphobic. You're transphobic.
• 2:39:22
  By the way, I love how your argument is I'm the mother of a
• 2:39:25
  trans child. I'm not transphobic.
• 2:39:27
  My argument is you're the mother of a trans child.
• 2:39:30
  How the fuck could you be so goddamn transphobic you fucking
• 2:39:34
  cunt? How the fuck could you shit on
• 2:39:38
  you're not friends with Annie anymore?
• 2:39:40
  Fine. How the fuck could you shit on
• 2:39:42
  their fucking gender identity and tell them it's not valid?
• 2:39:46
  Fuck you. Fuck you.
• 2:39:49
  Yeah, just because you have a trans child doesn't mean you're
• 2:39:52
  exempt from being a transphobe. Absolutely not.
• 2:39:54
  My mother is a transphobe, she has a trans child.
• 2:39:59
  Only difference is she doesn't run around using it as a fucking
• 2:40:02
  token. Running around the I'm the
• 2:40:05
  mother of a trans child. I'm the mother of a trans child.
• 2:40:09
  Look how amazing I am. Give me a medal guys.
• 2:40:12
  I'm the mother of a trans child. Good job doing your fucking job
• 2:40:17
  half decent and not shitting on your child.
• 2:40:20
  You don't get a reward for that. Stop acting like you deserve to
• 2:40:25
  be fucking venerated or some shit.
• 2:40:28
  A lot of people have trans children.
• 2:40:31
  A lot of people don't realize that they have trans, but a lot
• 2:40:33
  of trans people don't realize they're trans.
• 2:40:35
  All right? And there's a lot of transphobic
• 2:40:39
  parents that have trans children.
• 2:40:42
  All right, you can virtue signal all you want.
• 2:40:46
  Tell me how much you love your child all you want.
• 2:40:48
  That's fine. I think it's disgusting.
• 2:40:50
  And I think if the way you treated Annie, and I think that
• 2:40:53
  if you really cared about trans people, that you would never,
• 2:40:59
  ever deny someone's gender identity.
• 2:41:01
  Fuck you. Yeah.
• 2:41:02
  God. Damn, oh God damn.
• 2:41:07
  Jamie said it was transphobic to bring up Jamie's accent because
• 2:41:09
  it was tied to herself loathing. No, I, I didn't say that per SE.
• 2:41:13
  I said, look, I said I feel like it's a little bit if you know
• 2:41:16
  the situation and you've heard my explanation for it, because
• 2:41:19
  most people do know why and most people do know that it's kind of
• 2:41:23
  tied to that. Most people, again, kind of
• 2:41:25
  realize the minute I stopped using the accent, I didn't need
• 2:41:28
  to explain it to that many people.
• 2:41:31
  Like I, I don't get what the big mystery is there.
• 2:41:36
  I was wearing a mask. I was putting on a fake identity
• 2:41:39
  because I hated myself and didn't want to admit who I was.
• 2:41:43
  And when I admitted who I was, I didn't need the fucking accent
• 2:41:46
  anymore. I didn't need the persona.
• 2:41:47
  I could finally be myself. I wasn't being myself before
• 2:41:51
  Missy. That's what my point was.
• 2:41:54
  I get a little transphobic or it's a little, I won't say
• 2:41:57
  transphobic. It's a little insensitive to to
• 2:42:00
  a trans person to ignore that and and and pretend that that's
• 2:42:06
  not a a a valid explanation as to why they, they used to, they
• 2:42:12
  used to be fake. Why they used to lie about their
• 2:42:16
  identity. That's really uncharitable and
• 2:42:19
  bad faith. OK, it might not be outright
• 2:42:23
  transphobic, but I think you are kind of transphobic.
• 2:42:26
  At least you're NB phobic. You're non binary phobic because
• 2:42:30
  non binary people aren't trans. Why why why why why don't you a
• 2:42:36
  fucking Blair White, go start a fucking podcast together.
• 2:42:39
  Your politics are already fucking close enough.
• 2:42:44
  Your, your, your, your view on your I don't know about
• 2:42:47
  politics. They're they're they're shitty
• 2:42:49
  enough people. All right.
• 2:42:50
  They they got their similar views on certain things, all
• 2:42:53
  right. But actually, I think even Blair
• 2:42:55
  White would look at this Ben situation, be like, yeah, this
• 2:42:57
  is kind of fucked. No it's not.
• 2:43:04
  You're a fucking cringe cannon. You're an absolute cringe cannon
• 2:43:07
  who used to talk in a fake English accent and you're so
• 2:43:09
  You're so fucking uninteresting. You had to make up something
• 2:43:12
  that was fake about you so that people would think you were
• 2:43:14
  special. I'm so uninteresting.
• 2:43:16
  I had to make up something that was fake about me to seem
• 2:43:18
  interesting. No, dipshit, I hated myself so
• 2:43:21
  much and I, I, I, I, I fucking abhorred my identity so much
• 2:43:28
  that I fucking had to, to, to, to build up a persona around
• 2:43:32
  myself as, as armor to fucking 'cause I, 'cause I couldn't come
• 2:43:37
  to terms with who I really was. And then when I did that armor
• 2:43:41
  slipped. It, it, it shattered.
• 2:43:43
  I no longer needed it. I'm myself now.
• 2:43:47
  Holy fuck. Thank you, Raisin girl.
• 2:43:52
  I appreciate that. Use you being trans as a
• 2:44:02
  defense, as a shield and everything that is bullshit.
• 2:44:04
  Oh. My God see I love how they try
• 2:44:06
  to like reduce it to oh you're just using being trans as a
• 2:44:09
  defense for everything. No I'm fucking not.
• 2:44:12
  I it it. I only bring it up because it is
• 2:44:16
  part of the explanation for why I did that.
• 2:44:19
  And I'm sick and tired of people dishonestly acting like there's
• 2:44:24
  more to that than just, you know, what I already have
• 2:44:28
  explained. And people want to act in bad
• 2:44:31
  faith as if I haven't explained this already or and people like
• 2:44:36
  want to act as if I don't already even make fun of it and
• 2:44:39
  be like, yeah, this is, this is dumb.
• 2:44:40
  It was dumb of me. I wish I didn't make that
• 2:44:43
  decision when I was a teenager. Wait, you know we can't take you
• 2:44:53
  because you're trans? Fuck you in the ear and.
• 2:44:58
  Yeah, Missy uses that that defense cause I have a trans
• 2:45:01
  child. I have a trans child as a
• 2:45:04
  defense for everything. So fuck you.
• 2:45:09
  But yeah, I know I don't use that as a defense for
• 2:45:11
  everything. In fact, I didn't.
• 2:45:13
  Like if I've been accused of some shit, if someone shows me
• 2:45:19
  something that I've done wrong in the past or tells me like,
• 2:45:22
  hey, this is fucked up. I've admitted it and said yeah,
• 2:45:24
  that's fucked. I'm working to be a better
• 2:45:27
  fucking human being. I'm trying trying hard, unlike a
• 2:45:31
  lot of you clearly. It's not involved around you
• 2:45:36
  being a trans person. I respect you as a female.
• 2:45:40
  I'd never respect you as a person.
• 2:45:41
  Yes, let me save that. Well you don't have to.
• 2:45:43
  I don't respect you as a person, pimp.
• 2:45:45
  So I guess I guess we're mutual there.
• 2:45:48
  But no, not everything has revolved around me being trans.
• 2:45:51
  Dude, get the fuck out of here. What's next?
• 2:45:57
  I've only got a few more time stamps.
• 2:45:58
  We're home. We're almost done, guys, we're
• 2:46:00
  almost done. Holy shit.
• 2:46:02
  I know this has been painful, but like I've I really, I really
• 2:46:05
  I needed to get through all of this and respond to all these
• 2:46:08
  points. I did respond to the most
• 2:46:10
  important ones near the beginning, but yeah, we're we're
• 2:46:12
  let's look at a couple more. Whatever.
• 2:46:20
  Now I'll skip that one, Missy. Just more bullshit guilt.
• 2:46:24
  Guilt by association shit and lying about who I associate
• 2:46:28
  with. I've already gone there.
• 2:46:31
  Let's see. All right, let's see what this
• 2:46:36
  one was about 13240. Anything like what do you mean
• 2:46:47
  don't do anything like don't fucking do anything about it.
• 2:46:48
  Just make your fucking. Video.
• 2:46:49
  It's the first. Video that Jamie does right.
• 2:46:52
  Jeff is talking about how he told Ben not to do anything and
• 2:46:55
  not to come on. Yeah, OK.
• 2:46:58
  I'm sure Ben was was definitely gonna gonna do something about
• 2:47:01
  this or talk about this shit. The first video Jamie darted
• 2:47:04
  about and brought me up in and everything.
• 2:47:06
  TJ was in the chat and TJ actually defended me and Billy
• 2:47:08
  the fridge, yeah, and the chat. So I respect that, TJ.
• 2:47:12
  Yeah, TJ said he likes Billy and Pimp.
• 2:47:14
  Yeah, that's fine. Me and TJ can disagree, all
• 2:47:16
  right? I don't like you, Pimp, and I
• 2:47:18
  don't like Billy. All right, again, I retracted
• 2:47:21
  what I said about Billy because I don't know and so I'm not
• 2:47:24
  going to spread shit that I don't know anything about, but
• 2:47:26
  like I still I still think it's a little SUS and I made my so
• 2:47:30
  this is the thing they're going to about.
• 2:47:31
  They're about to do guilt by association.
• 2:47:33
  Again, say I'm doing guilt by association.
• 2:47:35
  I've already explained the reasons I've called out Billy
• 2:47:37
  the fridge were because I think it's a little SUS guys, little
• 2:47:41
  weird, little fucking weird. The kind of people that he
• 2:47:44
  fucking defends and the fact that he defended Onision longer
• 2:47:48
  than anyone else and that he will probably be one of the last
• 2:47:51
  people defending Ben. I think that's a little fucking
• 2:47:54
  weird. And I think it's a little weird
• 2:47:55
  that that that that Billy the fridge keeps getting super close
• 2:47:59
  with people who, you know, do this kind of shit.
• 2:48:04
  The little suss. That's all I said.
• 2:48:06
  I never accused Billy of nothing.
• 2:48:10
  I made it very clear. And it's not just, oh, you're
• 2:48:12
  associated with him and like you're associated with a lot, a
• 2:48:16
  lot of shitty people. You defend a lot of shitty
• 2:48:19
  people. And from from from from what it
• 2:48:22
  sounds like, sounds like Billy knows at least a lot of what Ben
• 2:48:27
  has done. Maybe not all of it.
• 2:48:30
  Maybe I jumped to some conclusions.
• 2:48:31
  That's why I retracted and said I'm not accusing Billy of shit.
• 2:48:34
  But you know what, pimp? You're the one who keeps getting
• 2:48:37
  more and more down in the dirt. If you'd have done nothing since
• 2:48:39
  that first stream, in fact, if you'd have just said, hey, why
• 2:48:42
  are you calling out me out for this?
• 2:48:43
  I don't know anything about this, Leave me out of it.
• 2:48:46
  I would have said, you know what?
• 2:48:46
  Fair enough, fair enough. The only reason I did that
• 2:48:51
  follow up Pimmunk stream is because you people have been so
• 2:48:53
  goddamn obsessed. And again, maybe I didn't go
• 2:48:57
  about it in the best ways. Maybe I I went after a little
• 2:49:00
  pimp pimp a little too hard in a stream that was meant to be just
• 2:49:03
  about Ben. Although it was also like, I, I
• 2:49:06
  I, I don't know, I I yeah, it should have just been about Ben.
• 2:49:09
  I agree with that. OK, that's fine.
• 2:49:12
  But like, holy fucking shit how vehemently you people defend him
• 2:49:16
  Like it, it, it, it only confirms what I first said about
• 2:49:19
  you, pimp. You're a piece of shit.
• 2:49:22
  You're a piece of shit. You are.
• 2:49:24
  Fuck you. Stop acting like you're in the
• 2:49:26
  middle. Stop acting like you're not
• 2:49:27
  taking sides. You're very clearly taking
• 2:49:29
  sides. Absolutely.
• 2:49:36
  That's awesome. It's amazing.
• 2:49:37
  You and me or something like that.
• 2:49:39
  And so, I mean, I think TJ gives the fact if you don't have to
• 2:49:41
  like hate somebody because somebody else hates.
• 2:49:42
  You sure, and I hope I I, you know, it's, it's just it's so
• 2:49:45
  frustrating. You know, it's so weird, but I
• 2:49:47
  mean. Me and TJ can have disagreements
• 2:49:48
  about certain people, all right? TJ can like certain people that
• 2:49:52
  I don't like. I don't gotta agree with TJ on
• 2:49:53
  everything. And I think.
• 2:49:55
  There's more, you know, in like, in like a fucking month.
• 2:49:57
  Nobody's gonna give a shit about any of this.
• 2:49:58
  No, nobody's gonna talk about it.
• 2:50:00
  Tragic wheels that motherfucker. This is Dick but.
• 2:50:03
  Still. I really do hope that's not the
• 2:50:05
  case because from where I'm sitting, in a month or so, maybe
• 2:50:12
  things will be looking a little worse for you.
• 2:50:13
  Maybe even more people will care.
• 2:50:15
  You know, I, I'd be careful if I were you, Ben, Not Ben.
• 2:50:21
  Jeff, Jeff, you're defending this shit really fucking hard.
• 2:50:25
  Really fucking vehemently. You're doing a lot of victim
• 2:50:29
  blaming. You're doing a lot of fucking
• 2:50:32
  attacking of victims. It's not a good look.
• 2:50:42
  OK, there's one last thing that I wanted to address.
• 2:50:49
  And then we're done with this goddamn stream.
• 2:50:51
  Holy fuck. It's super that simple now I
• 2:50:54
  hope. When people say shit, they have
• 2:50:56
  no absolute fucking clue what they're talking about.
• 2:50:58
  Apparently Jamie just said that I could come on her show and
• 2:51:00
  talk about how being manipulated me.
• 2:51:02
  Shabisky, you witnessed the conversation went out between me
• 2:51:06
  and being. Am I manipulated by being?
• 2:51:10
  Manipulated my band. Oh yeah, Shabisky is the one to
• 2:51:12
  be able to. Shabisky is the one to be able
• 2:51:15
  to read the deep nuances between human interactions, I'm sure.
• 2:51:22
  They say the same shit about like Missy and shit.
• 2:51:24
  Like we're like as if Missy controls shit and everything.
• 2:51:26
  All of your channels I think. People want to know the fuck I
• 2:51:28
  am or. Something.
• 2:51:30
  He's got them hypno boobs. She said, look, should we just
• 2:51:35
  be yelling at me and one night screaming at.
• 2:51:37
  Him. Oh, oh, you yelled at, you've
• 2:51:39
  yelled at Ben before. You've screamed at Ben before.
• 2:51:42
  So, yeah, that proves it. Yeah.
• 2:51:44
  He's why were you yelling and screaming at him?
• 2:51:47
  Why'd you get to that level with him?
• 2:51:49
  Is is it maybe because he he doesn't always treat you the
• 2:51:52
  best? Is it maybe because he's an
• 2:51:53
  asshole sometimes? You know, he's an asshole.
• 2:51:58
  Like, and I'm sorry you want to sit there and pretend that like
• 2:52:02
  Ben has never done anything manipulative to you, Like, I'm
• 2:52:05
  sorry telling you who you can and can't stream with if if you
• 2:52:08
  want his continued support is fucked up.
• 2:52:11
  It's fucked up. And yeah, you know what?
• 2:52:14
  Maybe that's the extent of it is that maybe that's that's all
• 2:52:17
  there was and you just want to view it as, oh, what?
• 2:52:20
  It was a business decision. All right, If you ever change
• 2:52:24
  your mind and realize, oh, it wasn't just a bit.
• 2:52:26
  See, this is the thing. I'm.
• 2:52:29
  I'm saying that I fully realized that you could maybe realize one
• 2:52:32
  day later, oh, shit, I was taken advantage of by Ben.
• 2:52:37
  I wouldn't say now. Oh, what?
• 2:52:38
  You defended Ben. Now you're going to say that he
• 2:52:41
  took advantage of you? I'd be like, oh, yeah, now you
• 2:52:44
  finally realized he was taking advantage of you the whole time
• 2:52:48
  you finally realized. And I'd listen to you.
• 2:52:51
  That's all I was saying. I don't expect you to come on.
• 2:52:54
  But all I was saying is, yeah, I'll give you the benefit of the
• 2:52:57
  doubt. I, I, I don't want you to go
• 2:52:59
  down with Ben. I don't want anyone to go down
• 2:53:02
  with Ben. I want Ben to be held
• 2:53:04
  accountable for his fucking actions.
• 2:53:07
  That's it. I want Ben to be held
• 2:53:09
  accountable. And as I was saying in my
• 2:53:12
  stream, if the people who are surrounding him come out later
• 2:53:16
  and say, oh, I know about this or I know about that, or like,
• 2:53:19
  yeah, he kind of was shitty in one way or another.
• 2:53:23
  I'll have you people on and, and you know, I'll be willing to
• 2:53:27
  look past it, put it behind us, 'cause I don't, I, I, I, I don't
• 2:53:35
  think my point was, pimp Monk, that I don't think you're as
• 2:53:38
  disgusting as Ben, all right? And I'd be willing to forgive
• 2:53:42
  this Ben Simperi if you came to your goddamn senses and stood up
• 2:53:45
  for yourself and stop defending a fucking abuser.
• 2:53:56
  Anyway, yeah, that's all from this stream that I wanted to
• 2:54:06
  cover. Holy fucking shit, that was a
• 2:54:10
  lot. Guys.
• 2:54:11
  That was a lot of bullshit. Holy fucking shit that was not a
• 2:54:17
  fun stream to watch again for the second time.
• 2:54:24
  Yeah, pretty fucking disgusting. Oh, I forgot about this because
• 2:54:28
  it's in the title and I talked about it earlier when I went
• 2:54:31
  live, but then the stream went down again.
• 2:54:36
  Ben has been doing some really SUS behavior himself his entire
• 2:54:39
  time. Like I showed in the last
• 2:54:40
  stream. He he he he retweeted a bunch of
• 2:54:44
  shit from TJ about false rape accusations.
• 2:54:48
  He also tweeted a picture of himself as a child and a picture
• 2:54:51
  of himself in trap and then deleted them shortly after.
• 2:54:57
  He posted a couple pictures of him in trap and deleted them
• 2:54:59
  after. Really weird.
• 2:55:02
  And then like deleted a a shit ton.
• 2:55:06
  Where is it? Here it is deleted a shit ton of
• 2:55:10
  DMS, not DMS tweets. Look at that on May 5th so wait
• 2:55:17
  this is actually this was taken on Oh this is the last update I
• 2:55:23
  guess on on May 5th, so wait no no no, never mind May 14th,
• 2:55:26
  never mind I was wrong 14th May 14th.
• 2:55:28
  I was going to say this was before my stream No, this is
• 2:55:30
  after my stream OK, he deleted. Look at this, over 1600 tweets
• 2:55:35
  were on the on the account. Suddenly 15124 tweets gone.
• 2:55:43
  Gone from the Where'd they all go?
• 2:55:44
  Ben? He, he loves, he loves deleting
• 2:55:49
  shit. He deletes DMS he deletes.
• 2:55:52
  Why are you so paranoid, Ben? I thought you were sweet boy.
• 2:55:55
  I thought you were being framed. Why?
• 2:55:58
  Why is someone who's being framed constantly running around
• 2:56:02
  trying to bury evidence, trying to hide shit?
• 2:56:06
  Explain that to me. Really fucking weird.
• 2:56:19
  When's the next hope? I'm done.
• 2:56:22
  Hopefully on Thursday. Hopefully we'll do an unrelated
• 2:56:25
  stream. Holy fucking shit.
• 2:56:28
  I wonder what his wife would think of all this.
• 2:56:31
  Yeah, I'm curious about that too.
• 2:56:33
  I, I, I don't even, I, I, I don't even want to know what's
• 2:56:37
  going on with his wife. I mean, I do because it, it
• 2:56:39
  might be relevant to all of this, but I, I don't know, I
• 2:56:45
  don't know the situation with his wife.
• 2:56:48
  I know he claims she would be homeless without him and
• 2:56:53
  whatever can act like you're being noble all you fucking
• 2:56:57
  want, but something tells me there's more to that story.
• 2:57:02
  I I don't know, though. So that was it, guys.
• 2:57:15
  That was my response to a really terrible, really painful stream.
• 2:57:22
  Really dumb stream. Or these people did nothing but
• 2:57:25
  refute themselves the whole time.
• 2:57:32
  As I said, if anyone wants more context, go back and watch my
• 2:57:37
  other two interviews. If anyone wants to know more of
• 2:57:41
  my issues with pimp, go watch my Pimp Monk stream.
• 2:57:43
  Although I'll be honest, I don't think that the Pimp monk, like
• 2:57:47
  my criticisms of Pimp Monk are, are not that serious.
• 2:57:50
  I just think he's AII think he's shitty.
• 2:57:57
  Wouldn't someone being framed want the evidence still up?
• 2:57:59
  Yeah, you'd think, right? Why is there so much stuff being
• 2:58:03
  deleted? What?
• 2:58:05
  What are you scared of, Ben? Why?
• 2:58:07
  Why won't why don't you want people who who were once in
• 2:58:10
  contact with you to have your the the the records of your
• 2:58:13
  conversations with them at that? Why not Ben?
• 2:58:16
  What's the problem? Doesn't that exonerate you, Ben?
• 2:58:21
  You're the one showing these DMS right now.
• 2:58:25
  Why the fuck aren't you? Why don't you leave them up so
• 2:58:30
  the victims can show their sides of them?
• 2:58:33
  Because you're full of shit and you know you are.
• 2:58:39
  And Ben is scared because he knows he done fucked up and he
• 2:58:44
  knows this shit is coming to get him.
• 2:58:46
  He knows he ain't escaping this anytime fucking soon.
• 2:58:52
  After I do each one of these dreams, I, I almost always get
• 2:58:55
  contacted by one or two or even 3 or 4 people new that that just
• 2:58:59
  want to give me information or want to tell me some shit.
• 2:59:04
  And hopefully if all goes well, we're going to have more victims
• 2:59:09
  on soon. We're going to interview more
• 2:59:11
  people. There's more of this.
• 2:59:13
  It's not just two stories. There's more.
• 2:59:16
  I'm in contact with at least two people right now who are
• 2:59:21
  considering coming on. All right.
• 2:59:26
  But again, guys, those of you that are watching, those are
• 2:59:32
  those of you. I'm two.
• 2:59:36
  I'm two hours into the one with Taylor.
• 2:59:38
  I'll be having words with people trust Raisin girl.
• 2:59:41
  I really appreciate that and you've been really sweet
• 2:59:44
  throughout this entire stream. I'm just going to say I, I, I
• 2:59:48
  don't think it's going to go well.
• 2:59:52
  And, and I, I, I can already kind of predict what's what's
• 2:59:56
  going to happen if, if you start, all I can say is if, if,
• 3:00:02
  if you feel you can actually like influence certain people,
• 3:00:05
  maybe like urge people to watch these things themselves and not
• 3:00:09
  just take other people's summaries of them.
• 3:00:14
  All right. Because it it's it's also guys
• 3:00:17
  and this this is I will, I it will.
• 3:00:26
  I don't do mean I do firm. Well, I, I hope you I I wish you
• 3:00:29
  luck raising girl. I've always I've I've I've, I've
• 3:00:33
  always thought you were a you, you were a decent person and
• 3:00:36
  I'm, I'm glad you're, you're willing to at least listen to
• 3:00:39
  the evidence for yourself instead of a lot of other people
• 3:00:42
  that are that hang around pimp and and them who, who just, you
• 3:00:47
  know, other people are saying a narrative and it's like, oh, it
• 3:00:49
  must be true. But guys, for all the other
• 3:00:57
  people out there, for those of you who you know, these stories,
• 3:01:01
  the, the, the interviews with the victims, that this shit
• 3:01:04
  that's going on, if it resonates with you, if you think that
• 3:01:07
  people need to hear about it, please do your best to spread
• 3:01:12
  this shit around this stream as well as the first two interviews
• 3:01:18
  with the victims. Feel free to spread them in
• 3:01:22
  communities that you think might give a shit.
• 3:01:26
  People who you think should know about this because I'm just one
• 3:01:32
  content creator and I'm doing my best to get this out there, get
• 3:01:38
  this in front of people like I've said, I would love to not
• 3:01:41
  have to be the one to be breaking this.
• 3:01:47
  I would love if some other YouTube YouTube was doing this
• 3:01:52
  and not me, but at this point, I I, I just I just want to get
• 3:01:58
  this out there More people got to know more people got to be
• 3:02:01
  talking about this. This is really, this is some
• 3:02:07
  serious shit, and Ben has been going out of his way and his
• 3:02:11
  friends have been going out of their way to bury this shit,
• 3:02:14
  Hide it, not allow it to be talked about.
• 3:02:19
  Please guys, if you think that this is serious, this is
• 3:02:23
  something that needs to be talked about.
• 3:02:24
  This is something that needs to be heard.
• 3:02:27
  Spread this shit around, share it, share it in Discord, share
• 3:02:30
  it on Reddit, share it on Facebook groups or whatever.
• 3:02:36
  Don't let Ben bury this because make no mistake, that was the
• 3:02:40
  attempt. That was the whole point of that
• 3:02:44
  stream on Pitmunk's channel. That was an attempt to bury
• 3:02:47
  this, to make it no longer talked about.
• 3:02:51
  And it was an attempt, a very clear attempt to scare the
• 3:02:54
  victims into not coming forward to to, to, to, you know, scare
• 3:02:58
  future victims from wanting to come forward.
• 3:03:01
  This needs to go further so that we get more love and support on
• 3:03:05
  these streams for the victims, so that more people realize,
• 3:03:10
  more victims realize that it's it's safe.
• 3:03:12
  It's safe to come forward and they're not just going to be
• 3:03:15
  shit on. They're not just going to be
• 3:03:17
  bullied off the Internet if they try to tell their stories.
• 3:03:20
  They're not going to be disbelieved and told they're
• 3:03:22
  fucking lying. They're not going to have to
• 3:03:24
  deal with victim blaming, at least not here, not from this
• 3:03:27
  community, not from the people who watch me and even the people
• 3:03:30
  who don't watch me regularly. Because I've got seen a lot of
• 3:03:34
  positive support for the for the victims.
• 3:03:36
  And I, I, it really warms my heart to see how many people
• 3:03:43
  are, you know, showing their support and willing to stand
• 3:03:46
  with the victims. But we need more.
• 3:03:50
  I, I don't like going around, you know, sharing my own shit
• 3:03:56
  everywhere. I feel like it kind of
• 3:03:57
  undermines it when a creator shares their own shit.
• 3:04:01
  Feel like people are less likely to pay attention to it.
• 3:04:04
  So those of you, you know who got your little communities and
• 3:04:07
  shit, let people know. Let people know what's going on.
• 3:04:12
  And like I said, I know I keep getting accused of doing this
• 3:04:17
  for the clout people want. Like I said, when I'm done
• 3:04:21
  talking about this, I'm done talking about this.
• 3:04:22
  And I fully expect to lose probably most of the subscribers
• 3:04:26
  I've gained over this period. And that's fine because I just
• 3:04:32
  want people to pay attention to this while it's going on.
• 3:04:36
  If they're not interested in me, I am more than happy to let
• 3:04:40
  people go, leave, unsubscribe, because I don't want to be a
• 3:04:44
  drama channel. I never wanted to be a drama
• 3:04:46
  channel, guys. I want, I want this to get out
• 3:04:50
  there. I want it to be talked about.
• 3:04:52
  I want this to be put to bed so I can move on and more
• 3:04:56
  importantly, so the victims can move on.
• 3:05:01
  So thank you everybody for watching.
• 3:05:04
  Thank you everybody for being supportive in the chat.
• 3:05:12
  I really appreciate all of you who have, who've been supportive
• 3:05:15
  and, and shown your, your support for the victims.
• 3:05:18
  Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
• 3:05:21
  Those of you who just came and listened, those of you who who
• 3:05:24
  are just willing to hear both sides and make up your own minds
• 3:05:28
  because that is also so fucking valuable.
• 3:05:31
  Don't allow other people to control the narrative.
• 3:05:36
  Come up with your own opinions, you know?
• 3:05:41
  Anyway, guys, I'm going to go. I'm tired and I'm fucking
• 3:05:45
  starving, so thank you for watching, thank you for
• 3:05:49
  everything, thank you for subscribing and the likes and
• 3:05:52
  everything. I will see y'all next time.
• 3:05:55
  I'll probably see y'all on Thursday for a unrelated Hopeium
• 3:05:59
  hour. It's going to be a, it's going
• 3:06:01
  to be fun. We're going to talk about, I
• 3:06:02
  don't know, whatever anything else, anything else, I'll put
• 3:06:05
  together a good show for y'all. I promise.
• 3:06:07
  OK, I love y'all. Peace out, have a wonderful
• 3:06:11
  night and we'll see y'all next time.
• 3:06:14
  Bye.