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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:08Welcome to the Deep Dive. We sift through the numbers and reports so you get the core insights.
- 0:12Today, we're digging into VicPlace International LTD's FY 2025 results.
- 0:18Now, this is an interesting one. It's kind of two companies in one, really.
- 0:21You've got medical devices, which is all about growth, and then pipes and pipe
- 0:25fittings, much more steady.
- 0:28And the first look at the numbers, It's a bit of a head-scratcher,
- 0:31group revenues up, operational profit, adjusted EBITDA, that's up too.
- 0:35But somehow, the losses got bigger. We need to figure out why.
- 0:39Yeah, that's the paradox, isn't it? And it really tells the story of where VicPlace is right now.
- 0:44Let's just lay out the top-line numbers for FY2025. These are all in Singapore
- 0:48dollars, so total revenue.
- 0:50S-115.8 million dollars, that's a pretty healthy jump.
- 0:5413.1% from the previous year. Okay, solid growth there. And adjusted EBITDA,
- 0:58which gives you a sense of the core operating performance, that also climbed,
- 1:02up 16.2% to $8.5 million.
- 1:04So the business operations themselves, they generated more profit.
- 1:08Right. So things are moving in the right direction operationally.
- 1:10But then the bottom line.
- 1:11Exactly. The loss after tax actually widened quite a bit. They ended FY 2025
- 1:16with a loss of S2.4 million dollars.
- 1:18Compare that to the S1.4 million dollar loss in FY 2024.
- 1:23Well, it's a 73.1% bigger loss. Wow. Okay. So that S 2.4 million dollars.
- 1:29That's the cost of something strategic, right? Not just operational inefficiency.
- 1:32Precisely. It's the price tag for positioning themselves for the future,
- 1:36especially in that medical devices space.
- 1:38Let's focus on that medical devices part then. Yeah. Forefront medical.
- 1:41That seems to be where the action is. It's now, what, two-thirds of their business? Yeah.
- 1:44A huge 66.7% of group revenue in FY 2025 came from medical devices.
- 1:50It's absolutely the growth engine. So what powered that engine?
- 1:53Why the big jump in medical revenue over 22%? Well, a lot of it comes down to
- 1:56timing and inventory levels.
- 1:59Remember the post-pandemic supply chain chaos?
- 2:01Oh, yeah, the de-stocking wave. Exactly. So their major customers basically
- 2:05finished adjusting the inventories from that period.
- 2:07Orders started flowing more normally, maybe even catching up a bit.
- 2:10That pushed their segment revenue up 22.3% to S77.2 million dollars.
- 2:15Makes sense. Did it pick up pace during the year?
- 2:17It really did. The second half of FY 2025 was particularly strong.
- 2:21Sales hit S42.2 million just in H2, that's 34.1% higher than the second half of the previous year.
- 2:30So real momentum building there. And they mentioned something about China specifically.
- 2:34Yes, they're in China for China. Strategy seems to be paying off big time.
- 2:38That specific business line grew, get this, 121.5% in FY 2025, reached $6.7 million.
- 2:46So they're definitely making inroads locally there. Okay. Impressive top line growth in medical.
- 2:50Yeah. But you said the segment still posted a loss. It did, still in the red.
- 2:54But, and this is important, the loss is shrinking.
- 2:56It was a negative S2.6 million dollar result for the segment.
- 2:59Which is better then. Better than the S4.2 million dollar loss they had in FY 2024.
- 3:04So they've improved it by S1.6 million dollars year on year.
- 3:07They're heading towards profitability.
- 3:09But, well, those big investments we'll talk about are keeping it negative for now. Got it.
- 3:13Okay, before we dive into those costs that seem to be dragging the whole group
- 3:16down, let's look at the other side of the business.
- 3:18The pipes and pipe fitting segment, big glass pipes.
- 3:21This is supposed to be the stable profitable part, right?
- 3:24The cash count. Traditionally, yes, it's the consistently profitable arm,
- 3:27but its contribution actually dipped a bit this year.
- 3:30How much did it dip? Well, revenue was down slightly, just 1.7%,
- 3:34landing at $38.6 million.
- 3:36But the segmental profit, the positive result, came in at $6.7 million.
- 3:41That's down 13.0% from the $7.7 million they made last year.
- 3:47A million-dollar drop in profit from the steady segment. Why the slip there? Was demand down?
- 3:54Not necessarily demand overall. They mentioned facing more intense competition,
- 3:57which squeezed margins, plus dealing with voluble raw material prices and being
- 4:02cautious about credit risks with customers.
- 4:05So they chose stability over maybe pushing for higher sales.
- 4:08Seems like it. They called it a prudent sales approach, basically managing credit
- 4:12risk carefully and adjusting their selling prices quickly when raw material costs change.
- 4:17So maybe sacrificing a bit of volume or margin for, you know, lower risk.
- 4:21Are they doing anything new in that segment? Yeah, they've expanded into UPVC door products.
- 4:26It's still early days, just starting commercialization, but it's an attempt
- 4:29to diversify within that building material space.
- 4:32Demand from Singapore housing is still expected to be strong, though.
- 4:35Okay. All right. So now the big question. We had the pipe segment, profitable but less so.
- 4:41We have medical devices growing fast, losses shrinking but still losing money.
- 4:45How do those two combine to create a bigger overall group loss of S2.4 million dollars?
- 4:52Where's the extra red ink coming from? This is where the strategy really hits
- 4:56the financial statements.
- 4:57The increased group loss is almost entirely down to the cost of getting their
- 5:01major new expansions up and running, specifically the new plant in Juarez,
- 5:05Mexico, and also an extension in Chengdu, China.
- 5:07Ah, the startup costs. What kind of costs are we talking about? Let's tick them off.
- 5:11First, raw materials and consumables used, up 8.9% to S54.7 million dollars.
- 5:17That reflects the higher production activity, mostly in medical.
- 5:20Okay, making more stuff cost more. Makes sense.
- 5:23Second, employee benefits. Payroll, basically. That jumped 11.3% to $39.5 million.
- 5:31And the main reason, hiring staff for the New Mexico plant before it was fully operational.
- 5:36Right. So you're paying people while the factory is still ramping up.
- 5:39That's a drag. A significant one.
- 5:41Then you have the cost of the building and machines themselves.
- 5:44Depreciation and amortization rose 10.6% to $7.7 million.
- 5:49Again, mostly the New Mexico facility is starting to depreciate in the second
- 5:53half of the year. So paying for the assets even before they're running at full steam. Exactly.
- 5:57And fourth, how did they pay for this new factory? Borrowing.
- 6:00So finance costs were way up 65.3% higher, reaching, I'll go, $1.7 million.
- 6:06That's the interest on the debt taken on mainly for the Mexico plant. Okay.
- 6:09Prior material costs, higher payroll for the new plant, depreciation on the
- 6:13new plant, interest on debt for the new plant.
- 6:16That paints a clear picture. Anything else significant? Yes.
- 6:19One more big swing factor, especially when comparing year on year, foreign exchange.
- 6:23Ah, the Forex impact. Was it bad this year? It was.
- 6:26In FY2025, they recorded a net foreign exchange loss of Sibahoff $9 million.
- 6:32But here's the kicker. In FY2024, they actually had a Forex gain of S1.1 million dollars.
- 6:39Wow. So that's an S2 million dollar negative swing just from currency movements
- 6:43comparing the two years. Precisely.
- 6:44That swing alone accounts for a huge chunk of the increase in the net loss from FY24 to FY25.
- 6:50It's not an operational cost from the expansion itself, but it definitely made
- 6:54the headline loss look worse this year. Okay, that helps connect the dots.
- 6:57So the bigger loss isn't really about the core business failing.
- 7:00It's the upfront investment pain for Mexico and Chengdu, plus an unlucky forex swing.
- 7:06So what's the outlook now? When does this pain potentially turn into gain?
- 7:10Management sounds, I say, cautiously
- 7:13optimistic. They expect overall group revenue growth to continue.
- 7:16And for the medical segment specifically, will that turn profitable soon?
- 7:19Revenue should keep improving there. They've got new projects coming online,
- 7:23and the Mexico plant will gradually ramp up its commercial production.
- 7:27But, and they're quite clear on this, the segmental result, the profit or loss
- 7:31for medical devices, will likely be constrained in the short term.
- 7:35Meaning still loss-making for a while.
- 7:37Probably. Or maybe just hovering around breakeven. They still have to absorb
- 7:40all those fixed operating costs and the depreciation from both Mexico and the Chengdu extension.
- 7:47Utilization needs to climb higher before those fixed costs are properly covered.
- 7:51So profitability lags revenue growth for now.
- 7:54What's the prize at the end of this tunnel? Why take on all this cost and complexity?
- 7:59The long-term strategic prize is significant. This Mexico plant isn't just about
- 8:03adding capacity. It's about geographic diversification.
- 8:07It gives them a near-shoring option for U.S. customers, a China plus one capability,
- 8:12which is really important for supply chain resilience these days.
- 8:15A big draw for medtech companies, I bet. Absolutely.
- 8:18They know that it's already proving popular and attracting new projects.
- 8:21So once they get through this phase of absorbing the startup costs,
- 8:24They should have much greater manufacturing flexibility and be really well-positioned
- 8:29for growth in the U.S., Europe,
- 8:31and even Japan. And the outlook for the steady pipe segment.
- 8:35Stable. Demand in Singapore is expected to hold up, especially from public sector construction.
- 8:40But they'll have to keep managing that competition, the cost pressures,
- 8:44and the credit risks very carefully, and keep an eye on those new door products.
- 8:48Any big worries on the horizon?
- 8:50Macro stuff. They mentioned being vigilant about global challenges,
- 8:54specifically calling out global trade and tariff policies.
- 8:58Standard, cautious corporate language, but something they're watching.
- 9:01OK, so if we boil it all down for the listener. Yeah. Vic Plus is basically playing the long game.
- 9:05Absolutely. They're consciously trading short term profit.
- 9:09Hence the $2.4 million loss driven by those expansion costs for what they hope
- 9:14will be a much stronger, more flexible long term position in the medical device
- 9:18manufacturing market. Building the foundation now, paying the price now for
- 9:22future growth. That's the strategy.
- 9:24Recognizing that building this kind of global footprint, especially with the
- 9:28Mexico facility, it just comes with a hefty upfront cost.
- 9:32Right. And that sets up our final thought for you, the listener.
- 9:34The source material highlights the massive market VicPlus is targeting.
- 9:38The global medical device contract manufacturing space could hit something like U.S.
- 9:44$216 billion by 2034. Vic Plus has clearly taken on significant financial pressure
- 9:49today, higher costs, more debt to build the capacity and the strategic footprint
- 9:53they believe they need to capture a bigger slice of that pie tomorrow.
- 9:57So the question is, do you think this big expensive bet on expansion,
- 10:01prioritizing future market share over current profitability,
- 10:04will actually pay off over the next decade?
- 10:06Will they successfully navigate this costum and achieve that market leadership?
- 10:10Something to think about.
- 10:11That's it for this deep dive. We'll catch you on the next one.