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Never Forget · David Pollack Primetime

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  Speaker 1: 25 years ago this morning, 19 terrorists turned four airplanes
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  Speaker 1: into weapons and murdered 2,977 innocent people on American soil. Mothers, fathers,
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  Speaker 1: firefighters who ran up the stairs while everyone else was
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  Speaker 1: running down, people who stood at a shattered window 1,000
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  Speaker 1: feet in the air and had to choose how they
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  Speaker 1: were going to die. We said that day two words,
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  Speaker 1: never forget. And here's where we are, a quarter century later,
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  Speaker 1: Roughly a third of the people in this country today
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  Speaker 1: were either too young to remember that morning or not
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  Speaker 1: even yet born. To a third of America, 9-11, it's
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  Speaker 1: not a wound, it's a paragraph in a history book.
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  Speaker 1: And for a long time, you know, I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was just the natural sort of sad drift of time.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think that anymore. Because it's becoming clear
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  Speaker 1: that something else was being done to the memory of
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  Speaker 1: that day. It didn't fade. It was flipped. Think about
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  Speaker 1: the journey we've actually taken in 25 years. On September 11, 2001,
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  Speaker 1: there was no confusion in this country about who the
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  Speaker 1: villain was. Radical, Islamic, terrorists. They declared war on the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: And we knew it. Now look at where we've landed.
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  Speaker 1: Two years ago, a letter went viral. A real thing.
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  Speaker 1: It actually happened.
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  Speaker 2: So I just read A Letter to America. And I
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  Speaker 2: will never look at life the same. I will never
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  Speaker 2: look at this country the same. I will never. Please
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  Speaker 2: read it. And if you have read it, let me
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  Speaker 2: know if you are also going through an existential crisis
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  Speaker 2: in this very moment. Because in the last 20 minutes,
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  Speaker 2: my entire viewpoint on the entire life I have believed
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  Speaker 2: and I have lived has changed. Please read that entire letter.
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  Speaker 3: I need you to stop what you're doing and go
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  Speaker 3: read A Letter to America. It is literally the craziest
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  Speaker 3: thing I've read in a while. And while I can't
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  Speaker 3: say that I'm that surprised, I am pretty shocked. So
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  Speaker 3: go read it and tell me what you think, because
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  Speaker 3: I really also need to talk to other people about this.
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  Speaker 1: This was Osama bin Laden's letter to America. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of 9-11. This was his
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  Speaker 1: letter to America, the manifesto in which he justified murdering 3,000
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  Speaker 1: of our people. Started racking up tens of millions of
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  Speaker 1: views on TikTok. And it was not young Americans recoiling
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  Speaker 1: in horror. It was young Americans nodding along, filming themselves,
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  Speaker 1: saying the words, he was right. My eyes has been opened.
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  Speaker 1: It got so bad so fast that TikTok had to
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  Speaker 1: scrub the hashtag. The generation was siding with the man
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  Speaker 1: who ordered the towers to fall, responsible for the deaths
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  Speaker 1: of all those Americans. How does that happen? How do
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  Speaker 1: you get from the ash and the heroism of that
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  Speaker 1: morning to kids praising the terrorists who caused it? It
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  Speaker 1: happens on purpose. It happens when you spend 20 years
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  Speaker 1: teaching a generation that the greatest sin a person can
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  Speaker 1: commit isn't terrorism. No, it's Islamophobia. Islamophobia. THAT TO EVEN
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  Speaker 1: NAME THE ENEMY, THE TERRORIST, WELL, THAT'S BIGOTRY. YOU RAISE
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  Speaker 1: A GENERATION TOO FRIGHTENED OF A WORD TO TELL THE
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  Speaker 1: TRUTH ABOUT A WAR AND YOU FUSE TWO THINGS THAT
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  Speaker 1: SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER? THIS IS
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  Speaker 1: THE PART MOST PEOPLE MISS. WHAT TOOK HOLD ON THE
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  Speaker 1: AMERICAN CAMPUS OVER THESE 25 YEARS IS A STRANGE AND
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  Speaker 1: DANGEROUS ALLIANCE. The marriage of the radical left and radical Islam,
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  Speaker 1: call it Islamo-Marxism on paper. They agree on nothing, but
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  Speaker 1: they share one enemy. And that enemy, it's us. It's America.
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  Speaker 1: It's the West. The whole idea of it. The Marxist
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  Speaker 1: sees an oppressor and a victim. And the Islamist was
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  Speaker 1: handed the perfect script, the perfect opportunity, America the colonizer,
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  Speaker 1: America the oppressor, the terrorist, reimagined as the freedom fighter.
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  Speaker 1: Marched them together under the same banners, same quads, and
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  Speaker 1: you get exactly what we have now. A movement that
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  Speaker 1: looks at the towers coming down and asks what we
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  Speaker 1: did to deserve it. You don't have to take my
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  Speaker 1: word for it. You don't have to take my word
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  Speaker 1: for how deep this goes. Just listen to the people
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  Speaker 1: your own side has sent to power.
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  Speaker 4: CARE was founded after 9-11 because they recognized that some
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  Speaker 4: people did something and that all of us were starting
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  Speaker 4: to lose access to our civil liberties.
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  Speaker 1: Sitting congresswoman waving away the murder of 3,000 people as
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  Speaker 1: THE DAY SOME PEOPLE DID SOMETHING. OH, BUT THAT'S NOT ALL.
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  Speaker 1: ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR LEFT-WING VOICES ONLINE, A FRIEND
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  Speaker 1: OF ZORAN MUNDANI, HASSAN PIKER, A MAN THAT ZORAN MUNDANI
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  Speaker 1: CALLS A FRIEND, HAS SAID FLAT OUT THAT AMERICA DESERVED 9-11.
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  Speaker 1: AMERICA DESERVED 9-11, DUDE. I'M SAYING IT. I'M SAYING IT.
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  Speaker 1: AND BANDANI ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE ATTACKS DIDN'T STAND
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  Speaker 1: UP TO MOURN THE DEAD. HE STOOD UP THROUGH TEARS
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  Speaker 1: TO TELL HIS STORY OF HIS POOR LITTLE AUNTY WHO
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  Speaker 1: HE SAID HAD TO STOP RIDING THE SUBWAY IN HER HIJAB.
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  Speaker 1: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A WOMAN WHO
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  Speaker 1: STOPPED TAKING THE SUBWAY AFTER SEPTEMBER 11th BECAUSE SHE DID
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  Speaker 1: NOT FEEL SAFE IN HER HIJAB. AND THE WAY PRESIDENT
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  Speaker 1: VANCE PUT IT, THE REAL VICTIM OF 9-11 WAS HIS
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  Speaker 1: AUNTY WHO GOT SOME BAD LOOKS. YOU KNOW, IT LATER
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  Speaker 1: CAME OUT THAT That same mayor was begged by 100,000
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  Speaker 1: New Yorkers, the families of the actual victims of 9-11,
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  Speaker 1: not his poor auntie who couldn't wear her job on
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  Speaker 1: the train. They begged him not to set foot at
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  Speaker 1: Ground Zero. You know what he did? He went anyway
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  Speaker 1: to mock them. And here is what he did when
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  Speaker 1: he got there. Ganesh K.
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  Speaker 5: Ladkut.
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  Speaker 1: THE VICTIM'S NAME IS JAMES PATRICK LADLEY. HE AND AOC
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  Speaker 1: SHARED A LAUGH WHEN THE VICTIM'S NAMES WERE BEING READ.
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  Speaker 1: THEY LAUGHED. WENT FROM THEY ATTACKED US TO WE HAD
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  Speaker 1: IT COMING TO THE REAL VICTIMS WERE US. They say
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  Speaker 1: this in the halls of Congress, in the mayor's office
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  Speaker 1: of the city that was attacked, and the conspiracy theories
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  Speaker 1: about that day, the endless theories shifting blame from the
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  Speaker 1: Islamic terrorists to dancing Israelis. When you've already decided America's
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  Speaker 1: the villain, the truth of that morning becomes negotiable. Arguing
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  Speaker 1: about who really did it is just one more way
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  Speaker 1: of forgetting who actually died. 2,977 people did not have
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  Speaker 1: it coming. They didn't deserve it. The death of the
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  Speaker 1: man with the red bandana was way better, was a
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  Speaker 1: victim than that fake auntie in a hijab. The passengers
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  Speaker 1: of flight 93 who charged THEY WERE THE BEST OF
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  Speaker 1: US AND THEY WERE MURDERED BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS. THAT IS
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  Speaker 1: WHAT HAPPENED. THAT IS THE TRUTH. AND ON THIS DAY,
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  Speaker 1: 25 YEARS LATER, REMEMBERING IT PLAINLY, So make that choice.
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  Speaker 1: Never forget what happened. Never forget who did it. And never,
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  Speaker 1: ever forget the ones we lost. 25 years ago, we
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  Speaker 1: made a promise. It's just as important today as it
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  Speaker 1: was 25 years ago. Possibly even more important now than ever.
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  Speaker 1: It's important that we keep it. Still ahead. A woman
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  Speaker 1: who was near the very top of the South Tower
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  Speaker 1: when the world went silent and lived to tell about it.
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  Speaker 1: Survivor Michaela Cruz comes on. And then a Green Beret
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  Speaker 1: who gave his own leg to the war on terror
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  Speaker 1: that followed the attacks. He joins me to answer the
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: hardest question there is. After 20 years, did we win
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: the war? And where does the fight go next? And
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  Speaker 1: the betrayal at Abbey Gate. 13 Americans dead in Joe
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: Biden's disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. Chad Caton's fired up about it.
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  Speaker 1: We got it all covered. Stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: BEGINNING OF THE SHOW, I TOLD YOU THE GREATEST DANGER
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  Speaker 1: 25 YEARS ON IS THAT WE FORGET WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED
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  Speaker 1: THAT MORNING ON 9-11. THAT IT BECOMES AN ABSTRACTION, A DATE,
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  Speaker 1: JUST A PARAGRAPH. SO I'M GOING TO BE SURE IT
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  Speaker 1: DOESN'T BECAUSE THE BEST WAY TO REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IS
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  Speaker 1: TO HEAR IT FROM SOMEONE WHO IS THERE. guest was
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  Speaker 1: at her desk on the 95th floor of the South Tower,
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  Speaker 1: Tower 2, on the morning of September 11, 2001. She
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  Speaker 1: was near the top of the world on a beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: clear morning. She heard the roar of a jet engine
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  Speaker 1: and a sound she would later say sounded like a bomb.
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  Speaker 1: The windows of her office blew in. The first plane
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  Speaker 1: had struck the North Tower right across from her. What
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  Speaker 1: she did in the next few minutes saved her life.
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  Speaker 1: She grabbed her things as much as she could, and
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  Speaker 1: she ran for the elevator. She made it. onto one
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  Speaker 1: of the very last elevators down and out of that
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  Speaker 1: building moments before the second plane tore into her tower.
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  Speaker 1: She walked 40 blocks to safety. And then she had
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  Speaker 1: to live with what so many survivors carry to this day,
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  Speaker 1: the knowledge that her colleagues and friends who didn't run
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  Speaker 1: for that elevator, they never got out. She turned that
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  Speaker 1: unbearable morning into a mission. bestselling book, and a life
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  Speaker 1: spent helping other people heal from their own darkest days.
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  Speaker 1: She joins me now on the solemn anniversary to tell
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  Speaker 1: you what that day was actually like. Michaela Cruz, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for being here. You know, tough day,
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  Speaker 1: 25 years, but it's just as raw as it was
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  Speaker 1: 25 years ago, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, there isn't a day, though, that goes by that
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  Speaker 6: I don't think about my friends. but it just seems
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  Speaker 6: to be so much more significant as the days approach today,
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  Speaker 6: every anniversary. Of course, this now is the milestone because
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  Speaker 6: it's a quarter of a century since this happened. And
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  Speaker 6: every moment now of today, I just think back on
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  Speaker 6: the times that we spent together and it's truly saddening,
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  Speaker 6: truly saddening.
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  Speaker 1: When you think, I mean, you've done a lot of
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  Speaker 1: good over the last 25 years to try to help
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people. When you look at where we
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  Speaker 1: are now, because those of us who remember or lived
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  Speaker 1: through 9-11, in your instance, we promise never to forget,
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  Speaker 1: and I've never forgotten. I honor this occasion every single year,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a whole generation that feels like it never,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's Pearl Harbor to them. They're young. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't know. And then the version they learned in schools
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  Speaker 1: was vastly different than the version we lived. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who were around and they've
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  Speaker 1: sort of reprogrammed their memory to believe something else happened entirely.
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  Speaker 1: 25 years later, looking back at where we are and
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  Speaker 1: what we've come to believe 9-11 is, I mean, what's
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts about where we are today on the 25th anniversary?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think the fact that, like you said, a
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  Speaker 6: whole new generation has come forward, And now they're living
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  Speaker 6: in an era where they could literally feel like September
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  Speaker 6: 11th was like Pearl Harbor, which many of us don't
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  Speaker 6: even know about to this day. And I think it
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  Speaker 6: gives us an opportunity to open their eyes to bringing
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  Speaker 6: this into history books. When this happened, I remember my
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  Speaker 6: brother telling me, you know, this is your story is
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  Speaker 6: going to be in history books. And I was hoping
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  Speaker 6: that that would be because it shows the resilience of
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  Speaker 6: not just New York, of my hometown, but the entire country,
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  Speaker 6: how we stood together in unison and wanted to make
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  Speaker 6: sure that justice was served. But I think that, like
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  Speaker 6: you said, there are ways that people are just kind
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  Speaker 6: of pushing it aside. They're forgetting the tragedy itself and
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  Speaker 6: how many people died and how many of our law enforcement, firefighters,
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  Speaker 6: first responders have died over the years from this tragedy.
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  Speaker 6: I just think it's really important that we open these
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  Speaker 6: kids' eyes and everybody else's eyes, especially those who don't
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  Speaker 6: believe that this is important enough to celebrate or honor
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  Speaker 6: every year.
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  Speaker 1: For those watching who may not have lived through it,
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  Speaker 1: who've only read about a paragraph of it in a
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  Speaker 1: distorted history book, what do you remember about that day?
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  Speaker 6: I remember how beautiful it was.
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  Speaker 2: I remember.
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  Speaker 6: just going into work thinking that if I did not
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  Speaker 6: have to come in early, which I had to that day,
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  Speaker 6: my hours were 9.15 to whenever I left the office.
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  Speaker 6: So coming in at 8.30 in the morning was a rarity,
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  Speaker 6: but I was asked to. And so the beautiful day
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  Speaker 6: that it was, I wanted to just walk out and
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  Speaker 6: go to the beach. That was the type of day
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  Speaker 6: it was. And as soon as I got into the
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  Speaker 6: office and I put my purse and briefcase down, When
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  Speaker 6: my ex-boyfriend called me, that I thought was just a
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  Speaker 6: normal day of him just trying to get back with me.
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  Speaker 6: And that call actually, it made the whole moment seem normal.
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  Speaker 6: That last space of normalcy before the first plane started
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  Speaker 6: to dive into the first tower.
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  Speaker 1: Did you realize what was happening when that first plane crashed?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what was that moment like, seeing the plane crash?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for all of us watching, we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was an accident. It wasn't until the second plane
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  Speaker 1: hit that we knew that there was an attack. What
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  Speaker 1: were you thinking when you saw that first plane hit?
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  Speaker 1: Did you think it was an accident, but we should
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  Speaker 1: probably get out of this building because there's a fire
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  Speaker 1: across the way and the window's broken? I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: were you thinking?
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  Speaker 6: When I was, I remember I was standing and I
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  Speaker 6: felt that vibration. And what I felt and what I
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  Speaker 6: heard was something that I never heard even that high up.
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  Speaker 6: You know, planes do not fly that low. And the
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  Speaker 6: sound of the engine is something that stays with me forever.
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  Speaker 6: Because when you hear an airplane engine that close and
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  Speaker 6: then you hear a crash, it just, it shook me
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  Speaker 6: to the point where I had no choice but to
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  Speaker 6: grab everything that I could and leave. But I knew
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  Speaker 6: that it was not our building.
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  Speaker 2: I knew it.
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  Speaker 7: I just knew it.
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  Speaker 1: If there's one takeaway that you want people to remember,
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  Speaker 1: we say we never forget. What is the one thing
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  Speaker 1: you want people not to forget about 9-11?
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  Speaker 6: How much our country stood by us in times of darkness, that.
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  Speaker 7: We were not alone.
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  Speaker 6: And we will not forget, but let's remember.
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  Speaker 7: Let's honor.
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  Speaker 6: Let's bring love back into this. And not just not forget,
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  Speaker 6: just remember. honor and cherish those lives that were so
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  Speaker 6: tragically lost that day.
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  Speaker 1: Important message. And we also remember the time we came
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  Speaker 1: together and we all stood for something and loved this nation.
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  Speaker 1: And we need to get back to that. Michaela, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for coming on and sharing your story
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  Speaker 1: and all the work you've done in the wake of 9-11.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you so much, David.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Coming up, he watched 9-11 unfold from airborne school,
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  Speaker 1: I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN
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  Speaker 1: NEW YORK 25 YEARS AGO. A GENERATION OF YOUNG AMERICANS
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  Speaker 1: WATCHED THOSE TOWERS COME DOWN IN NEW YORK AND THEY
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  Speaker 1: MADE A DECISION. THEY DIDN'T ASK WHAT THE COUNTRY WAS
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  Speaker 1: GOING TO DO FOR THEM. THEY WALKED INTO A RECRUITER'S OFFICE,
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  Speaker 1: THEY SIGNED UP TO GO FIGHT THE TERRORISTS. ONE OF
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  Speaker 1: THEM WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS THAT VERY MORNING
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  Speaker 1: AT ARMY AIRBORNE SCHOOL. HE WATCHED 9-11 HAPPEN AND HE
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  Speaker 1: KNEW RIGHT THEN HE WAS GOING TO GO DO SOMETHING
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  Speaker 1: WITH HIS LIFE TO AVENGE THOSE ATTACKS ON 9-11. HE
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  Speaker 1: WAS GOING TO BECOME A GREEN BERET AND TAKE THE
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  Speaker 1: FIGHT TO THE ENEMY. AND HE DID. HE DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN,
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  Speaker 1: TO IRAQ, AGAIN AND AGAIN. ON ONE OF THOSE DEPLOYMENTS
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: HE WAS SHOT IN THE ARM AND KEPT FIGHTING. IN
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: THE PAST, HE'S BEEN IN THE PAST, HE'S BEEN IN
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: THE PAST, IN ANOTHER COMBAT, IT COST HIM HIS LEG.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: AND THAT'S THE PART THAT TELLS YOU EVERYTHING ABOUT THE
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: MEN WE SENT. AFTER THEY AMPUTATED HIS LEG, HE PUT
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: ON A PERSTATIC, REQUALIFIED AS A FULLY DEPLOYABLE GREEN BERET
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: AND WENT BACK TO WAR FOR FIVE MORE YEARS. THAT'S
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: THE MAN WHO IS NOW THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: STATE OF FLORIDA. It became the longest war in American history,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: 20 years. And the price we paid for it is
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: almost beyond comprehension. More than 7,000 American service members were
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: killed in action fighting the war on terror. Tens of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: thousands more came home with wounds they'll carry for the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: rest of their lives. And then there's a toll almost
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: no one has the courage to talk about. Since those
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: wars began, it's estimated that we've lost more than 30,000
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of our post-9-11 troops and veterans, not on the battlefield,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: but to suicide here at home. That's roughly four times
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the number we lost in all of combat combined. Four times.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: So on this anniversary, we owe it to every one
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: of them to ask the hardest question there is. After
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: 20 years, after all the bloodshed, all the sacrifice, did
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: we win? We killed Osama bin Laden. We shattered al-Qaeda.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And there hasn't been another 9-11 on American soil, thank God.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But the Taliban? They're still running Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda still exists.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: My kids, they still get patted down at the airport.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: My hand sanitizer gets thrown in the trash before security.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The government spies on us. And Islamo-Marxists are taking over
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the country. One of them's a mayor of New York.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So do we end terror? Or do we just watch
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it become something new? Now, there's no one better to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: answer that question. The man who gave his leg, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of his life to this fight. Joining me now,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Lieutenant Governor of Florida, Jay Collins. Welcome back to David
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Pollak Primetime. First, let me say thank you for your service.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you for fighting for this country in the wake
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: of the worst terror attack on American soil. Where are you?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: What's your mind today? I mean, 25 years since 9-11,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you fought so hard against these terrorists. What are you
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: feeling today?
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: You know, the same thing I do every day. You know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: On one hand, you have to deal with the reality
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: of the world as it is, to your point. Look, socialism,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: communism never goes away. It comes back under a new name,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: new guise, and infects our universities, our schools, our families,
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: and our communities.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: People want to take it for a test run.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: You have radical Islamic terrorists that attacked America on September 11, 2001.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: And you saw al-Mamdani and AOC joking while names of
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: those gone too soon were being read. The fact that
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: that happens in America, that a city like New York City,
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: the city that never sleeps, the city that paid a
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: steep price, that they had to learn a lesson for
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: what leadership should be like, what the costs of taking
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: our eyes off the prize and eyes off the ball are, guys,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: it's real. The enemy is not at the gates. The
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: enemy has infiltrated the gates that are within our ranks
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: and they want to decimate and destroy the American way.
• 24:08
  Speaker 8: And we have to be equally committed to standing for
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: American values, principles, and what's right. And I'm focused more
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: today than I ever have been because I see what's possible.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: We in Florida do things a different way. We beat
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: to our own drum. We fight for limited government for
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: the things that are right. We need to have 49
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: other states be a whole heck of a lot more
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: like Florida and America would be in a lot better place,
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: my friend.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Now, Lieutenant Governor, and I'm going to be very careful
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the way I ask this question, because I think there
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is no greater sacrifice than serving this country. And you
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: never want to dishonor those people who laid down their
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: lives in defense of it by calling into question what
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: they went and sacrificed their lives for. But 20 years
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: after Afghanistan, when you look back and we talk about
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the things we're still fighting, did we win that war?
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: And if we did, are we losing it now after
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: we won it?
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: You know, did we win the war? I don't know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: I think it depends on how you look at winning it.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: First off, I would say the warriors, yes, we know
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: how to win a war. Politicians got in the way.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: Politics got in the way. And we spent two years
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: pushing the enemy out to the outer edges. You know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: young men on horseback in a special forces tab pushed
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: them out, worked with warlords, and had Afghanistan settled in,
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: our enemy on their heels. And then politics happened. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: we spent 18-plus years figuring out how to prolong this
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: nation-building process. Our job is to find, fix, and finish.
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: Kill the enemy, leave them where they lie, and then
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: move on to the next target. Our job is to
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: protect our people and our way of life, not the
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: nation built. That should never be where we are. And
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: I think what you see today is the fact that
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: we got bogged down in Afghanistan for a long time.
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: You know, if you're going to do that, you better
• 25:59
  Speaker 8: be equally committed to the generations you're going to have
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: to teach to do it. And the fact is, People
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: didn't want to pay that price in America. So we
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: need to go in, handle our business, and put a
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: focus on the American people.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: And I think that's what you see people talking about.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: But my frustration, simply put, is we have to have
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: politicians who have the spine, the courage, and the fidelity
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: of action to stand and be equally strong, just like
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: our men and women on the ground out there on
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: the ragged edge of freedom. I'm so grateful for President
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: Trump and his team because they do have the courage
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: to do that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: They're willing to act. They're willing to stand. They're willing
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: to fight. Our enemies are real. They're out there.
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: And we have to protect our people and our way
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: of life from them every single day, ever vigilant.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: What a great point you make with respect to the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: warfighters versus the politicians that, you know, that pull the
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: levers of war, because you're exactly right. I think the
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: military showed its efficacy there. in pushing back the terrorists.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we killed Osama bin Laden. We definitely beat
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: al-Qaeda at the time, pushed out the Taliban at the time.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: We did our job. And you're right, the politics inserted itself.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: We got bogged down. Later on in the show, I'm
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: talking about the disastrous withdrawal. And I remember my dad,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: he was in Vietnam, and he was on the ground
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in infantry, and he was responsible for clearing Highway 1,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: you know, that went through Vietnam. And I asked him
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: about it all the time. I'm like, you know, he
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: was drafted, and I was like, do you feel like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: we won that war? And what was your take on
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the war? He goes, he says, You know, he didn't
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: talk about it a lot, but what he said is
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he says it was all political.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: It was the.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Politicians back home. He says what we should have done
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: is just bomb the hell out of Vietnam and got
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: out of there. But instead, they put us on the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: ground every single day to get shot at while the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: politicians figured out what to do. And I kind of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: feel the same thing happened in the 20 years of
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the Afghan war, where we did our job and then
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the politicians just basically left our soldiers there as sitting
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: ducks while they figured out the politics of it. And
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Abbey Gate is really the ugliest example of that, thanks
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to no thanks, I should say, to Joe Biden. And, man,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: 20 years of war. Looking back on your time in
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: service and looking at where you are now, what is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the takeaway of the sacrifice? And what message do you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: have to other veterans who for 20 years fought this
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: war and then came home? What do you want them
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to focus on now? What's the mission now?
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Well, look, what I'll say is this.
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: If you fought, you served our nation abroad, you know
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: what the price of freedom is. You know the cost
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: that we have to pay to protect our people and
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: our way of life.
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: You know, when you leave service, when you get into
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: the civilian.
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: World, guys, we got to stop thinking that it's a
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: magic switch and you have to become a civilian in
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: every way, shape, or form. The battlefield changes, but the
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: mission continues. You know, I think often our guys struggle with,
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: you know, transition into what's next because we try to
• 28:46
  Speaker 8: philosophically change who we are and what we stand for. Guys,
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: I was willing to sign a contract to give up to,
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: if necessary, the last full measure of devotion, that last
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: breath in my chest to protect the nation that I
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: believe in. It's the same exact way now. I just
• 29:01
  Speaker 8: do my mission in a slightly different way. I serve
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: our people, 23 and a half million people. Find a
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: way to give back, give value. But what I'll tell
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: you is if you're a veteran, You've served, you've sacrificed,
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: you've done this. You've worked with people from all walks
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: of life, every race, creed, color, gender, every ideology, rich people,
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: poor people, people with great families and people who didn't
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: know their families at all. And you've kicked ass and
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: you've taken names. You've solved complex problems with bubble gum
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: and duct tape, more than likely. And you've done this
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: while people shoot at you abroad. What America needs right
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: now is more grit, determination, the ability to overcome, and adapt,
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: and solve problems. We need more of what veterans bring.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: Step in, lead, do what we do best, make a difference,
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: give back to the community. And every single time our
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: nations hit the skids, you know who's come to the rescue?
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: It's not the politicians, it's not the bureaucrats, it's the
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: working class and the warriors. the people who create jobs, opportunity,
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: and those who put their neck on the line for
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: everybody else.
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Nothing changes. The mission continues. Let's go.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: We need warriors now more than ever, and the fight continues,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: and I think the fight is more consequential coming up
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: in 2026 and 2028, and I'm thankful. I thank God
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: for warriors like you. Thank you for your service, both
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: abroad and here at home. Lieutenant Governor, thank you so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: much for joining.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: David, I appreciate you, brother. God bless my friend.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: God bless you too, my friend. Well, the 20-year war,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: we all remember how it ended, right? It ended at
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a gate in Kabul with 13 flag-draped coffins thanks to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden's horrific withdrawal. We talk about that later. And remember,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: we killed Osama bin Laden. We shattered al-Qaeda. So why
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: does it feel like we're losing a different war entirely,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the spread of radical Islam across the West? We're going
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to talk about that later with Frank Gaffney. All that's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: still to come. Do not go anywhere.
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• 31:43
  Speaker 1: WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE 20-YEAR WAR THAT ANSWERED 9-11.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW IT ENDED. BECAUSE IT ENDED
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: PRETTY MUCH IN DISASTER THANKS TO JOE BIDEN. FIVE YEARS
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: AGO THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN COLLAPSED INTO ONE
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: OF THE DARKEST, MOST SHAMEFUL CHAPTERS IN THE HISTORY OF
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: AMERICA MILITARY. THE WORLD WATCHED IT LIVE. of the Taliban
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that they clung to the outside of departing planes falling
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: from the sky. And in the middle of that chaos,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a gate called Abbey. An ISIS-K suicide bomber detonated himself
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in a crowd and murdered 13 American service members, 11 Marines,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: one soldier, one sailor, 45 more wounded. One of them
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: was a young Marine sniper named Tyler Vargas Andrews, who
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: lost an arm and a leg that day. and endured
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: more than 40 surgeries since. That's what he told Congress
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: Plain and simple, we were ignored. Our expertise was disregarded.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: No one was held accountable for our safety.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: That's the testimony of a man who gave two of
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: his limbs at Abbey Gate. He told Congress through his
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: pain that his team had warned their commanders about a
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: suspected bomber. They never got answers. Or the authority they needed.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden chose to abandon Bagram Air Force Base WE
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: HAD TO RUN EVERYTHING THROUGH THAT ONE EXPOSED AIRPORT. AND
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: BY THE WAY, WHEN WE LEFT BAGRAM, WE HANDED THE
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: TALIBAN TO PRISON BESIDE IT AND THEY THREW OPEN THE DOORS,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: RELEASING THE VERY ISIS-K TERRORISTS WHO WOULD BUILD THE ABBOT
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: GATE BOMB 11 DAYS LATER. WE LEFT BEHIND $ 7 BILLION
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: OF AMERICAN WEAPONS FOR THE TALIBAN TO PARADE THROUGH THE STREETS.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: And for the rest of his presidency, Joe Biden never
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: once admitted that any of it was a mistake. Blame Trump.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: It was his plan. Thirteen families buried their sons and daughters.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And until President Trump came back, not one single person
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: in the administration was ever held accountable. Now, my next
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: guest is a veteran who never stopped fighting for the
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: men and women who serve. And he is fired up
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: as always, probably more than ever. Joining me now, Chad Caton,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: former Navy Seabee. founder of Operation Free Nation. Chad, welcome back.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Dave Pollack, primetime. Man, it is 9-11. We remember, we
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: won't forget, but man, people are sick, aren't they, Chad?
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: Well, they are, because essentially what I'm saying is people
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: have forgot. We have a radical Muslim is the mayor
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: of New York right now, but we're talking about Afghanistan.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: And at the end of the day, we had Joe
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: Biden that had a great way to try to make
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: Trump look bad.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I used your plan, Donald Trump. And I left $ 7.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: Billion worth of hardware, the best hardware in the world,
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: and handed it right back over to radical Muslims. They're
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: selling it on the black market to God knows who, Syria,
• 34:49
  Speaker 9: you know, Hamas, Houthis, we have no idea. And they left,
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: and we still have no real validity to what happened
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: in Afghanistan. And after 20 years of American soldiers missing birthdays, anniversaries,
• 35:10
  Speaker 9: getting divorced because of it, and worst of all, coming
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: back in a box with a flag draped over it,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: and the 20,000 that were wounded and.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Forever will carry those scars of war. They get no justice.
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: They used our soldiers as pawns in a geopolitical game
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: so that they could proverbially slap Trump. by saying, well,
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: this was his plan. We were just trying to get
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: it done. We all know it wasn't.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: This is sick.
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: And on September 11th, the very action that made us
• 35:43
  Speaker 9: end up in Afghanistan to hunt a guy who was
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: never there or isn't there when we found him, it
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: was Pakistan.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Have we bombed Pakistan? Have we shot Pakistan? No, they
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: got a nuclear arsenal.
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: Our American sons and daughters went over there and traipsed
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: around the country the mountains of Afghanistan, through the poppy
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: fields of the heroin fields. And all we have 20,000
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: and let's see, 1,926 dead in 20 years.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: We've got to do better.
• 36:17
  Speaker 9: And our military needs to be in the front of
• 36:20
  Speaker 9: that and be respected.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: They're not. Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at the 20 year war and,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to Lieutenant Governor of Florida,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a Green Beret who fought in the war on terror,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: lost a leg, re-qualified, fought for five more years in
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the war on terror. You know, we talked about, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: that war and where the fight goes, and it's the withdrawal.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: You know, it was really just... Because what Lieutenant Governor
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Collins said was that politics got in the way. He
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: said the fighters, the war fighters did their job, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: then politics got in the way, and that's why they
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: messed everything up. And I think there's no better example
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: of how politics... messed everyone up than that withdrawal from Afghanistan.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: There was a plan in place. There was a way
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to withdraw from Afghanistan to get our troops out. Trump
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: had planned it. But this is where stolen elections have consequences,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: because instead of leaving in a way that made sense,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden just cut and run. And the aftermath was
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: not only 13 dead warfighters and thousands of injured. It
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: was also the Taliban reasserting control of Afghanistan. It was
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: AL-QAEDA BEING ABLE TO FLOURISH, AND NOW WE'RE IN A
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: WAR WITH IRAN AND THEIR TERROR PROXIES. BASICALLY, WE TOOK
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: THAT 20-YEAR WAR, ALL THOSE LIVES SACRIFICED, ALL THAT TREASURE,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: AND WE JUST FLUSHED IT DOWN THE TOILET BECAUSE JOE
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: BIDEN WAS INCOMPETENT, RIGHT?
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: We go with incompetence, and we also go with I'm
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: better than that kind of a situation. And the soldiers
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: and sailors are always looked at as the whiny people
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: that want to come home after being on the middle
• 37:51
  Speaker 9: of a boat.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: For 265 days.
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: And then when they do get a chance to get
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: some fresh air, the press is over there trying to
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: find out what bar they're drunk in.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 38:04
  Speaker 9: And again, we come back to where the American warfighter
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: is the one that's dealing with it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I have a suggestion.
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  Speaker 9: Y'all want to do convention estates and you need to
• 38:14
  Speaker 9: put term limits on.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: People, whatever.
• 38:17
  Speaker 9: But how about if you want to serve in the
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: federal government as an elected official, you serve your country first.
• 38:24
  Speaker 9: How in the wide world of sports are you able
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: to be in an empty suit and formally sold insurance
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: and you can send hundreds, if not hundreds of thousands
• 38:34
  Speaker 9: of young Americans to their death based off an ideology
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: of a lobbyist? Maybe we should have those people in Congress.
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: Could you imagine AOC doing drill? I can't either.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: We need to do better.
• 38:50
  Speaker 9: And the good news is, and what America has ridden
• 38:53
  Speaker 9: on forever, is that the 11 millions of veterans in
• 38:57
  Speaker 9: our active duty military and national guard are the break glass,
• 39:03
  Speaker 9: pull handle situation. We've always dug this country out of situations.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: Maybe we need to start figuring out the people that
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: are senators to those terrible situations so we can actually
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: do the right thing for once. Not saying I'm not
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: about protecting our country and getting behind these geopolitical situations.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: But, dang, if we ain't doing.
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: It the dumbest way possible because some guy in an
• 39:24
  Speaker 9: empty suit who's never stood a post in his life
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: could tell a four-star general that you're going to do.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: What I tell you.
• 39:30
  Speaker 10: Why?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Because he was appointed. That's not okay. No, that's the
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: lesson of the Afghan war. It's the lesson of Abbey Gate.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And it's why we don't forget. We don't forget what
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: got us here. And certainly we remember, so we don't.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: repeat the mistakes of the past. Chad Caton, thank you
• 39:49
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• 39:52
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• 39:54
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• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Still ahead, we won the war of bombs and bullets,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: but there's another one we may be losing now. And
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: they're not fighting with planes. They're fighting it with politics,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the war for the West over Sharia law. More on
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: that right after this.
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  Speaker 1: For 25 years, we have fought radical Islam as a
• 41:59
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• 42:04
  Speaker 1: hiding in caves on the other side of the world
• 42:06
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• 42:09
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• 42:13
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• 42:15
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• 42:20
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• 42:24
  Speaker 1: really have been I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT
• 42:25
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• 42:27
  Speaker 1: FOR 25 YEARS WHILE WE WERE BUSY FIGHTING THE WAR
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: ON TERROR, BOMBS AND BULLETS, WE'RE QUIETLY LOSING A DIFFERENT
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: WAR ENTIRELY HERE AT HOME BECAUSE THE IDEOLOGY THOSE 19
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: HIJACKERS KILLED FOR ON 9-11, RADICAL POLITICAL ISLAM, THE BELIEF
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: THAT ISLAMIC LAW SHOULD RULE OVER THAT IDEOLOGY, IT DIDN'T
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: DIE AT ABBEY GATE. IT DIDN'T DIE IN SOME MOUNTAIN
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: IN KABUL. IT DIDN'T DIE IN THAT COMPOUND IN PAKISTAN.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: DIDN'T NEED A PLANE OR A BOMB. IT FOUND A QUIETER,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: MORE PATIENT WAY IN. LOOK AT EUROPE FIRST WHERE THE
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: POLITICS OF RADICAL ISLAM IS NOW A RISING ELECTORAL FORCE
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: RESHAPING THE CONTINENT COUNTRY BY COUNTRY. LOOK AT OUR OWN
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: COLLEGE CAMPUSES IS NO LONGER A THREAT WHISPERED BY OUR ENEMIES.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: IT'S A SLOGAN CHANTED BY OUR OWN CHILDREN IN OUR
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: OWN STREETS. LOOK AT THE WAY ANYONE WHO DARES TO
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: NAME THIS THREAT IS INSTANTLY SHOUTED DOWN AS A BIGOT
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: OR ISLAMOPHOBE IN SILENCE. THAT WAS ATTACKED 25 YEARS AGO.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: NOW RUN BY A MAYOR, THE FAMILIES OF THE MURDERED
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: BEGGED TO STAY AWAY FROM GROUND ZERO. THOSE PLANES HAD
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: A GOAL FAR BIGGER THAN ONE TERRIBLE MORNING. THEY WANTED
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: TO BRING THE WEST TO ITS KNEES TO REPLACE OUR
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: WAY OF LIFE WITH THEIRS. THEY FAILED TO DO IT
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: WITH TERROR. SO THE REAL QUESTION 25 YEARS LATER IS
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: WHETHER THAT SAME GOAL IS NOW BEING PURSUED A DIFFERENT WAY.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: NOT WITH VIOLENCE, NECESSARILY, BUT WITH DEMOGRAPHICS AND POLITICS AND PATIENCE.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: AND MY NEXT GUEST HAS SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER SOUNDING
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: THE ALARM ABOUT PRECISELY THAT. HE'S TAKEN A GREAT DEAL
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: OF HEAT FOR IT. JOINING ME NOW IS FRANK GAFFNEY,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: PRESIDENT OF THE INSTITUTE FOR of securing America.
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: Mr.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Frank Gaffney, welcome back to David Pollack Prime Time. This
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: fight against Sharia and radical Islam is a fight that
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you have been very passionate about. That's how we met.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: You wear the Stop Sharia pin. Everywhere you go, you
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: make sure people understand how dangerous this is to America.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: 25 years after 9-11, cities in Texas want to enact
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Sharia law. Where do we go from here?
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: We have a very important opportunity to learn the lessons
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: of 9-11, which we have largely not learned, in a
• 45:07
  Speaker 10: way that will provide a choice for the American people
• 45:13
  Speaker 10: in this midterm election cycle between freedom and slavery. Freedom
• 45:20
  Speaker 10: that the Republican Party has been associated with from its
• 45:23
  Speaker 10: inception versus slavery, with which the Democratic Party has been
• 45:28
  Speaker 10: associated from its inception. That choice comes down to, will
• 45:33
  Speaker 10: you stand against those trying to supplant it, overthrow it,
• 45:37
  Speaker 10: or bring down the government and country based upon it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 10: The latter would include, in addition to the Sharia supremacists,
• 45:45
  Speaker 10: which were the focus properly of your intro, but aided
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: and abetted by their so-called Democratic Socialists of America allies, Marxists,
• 45:56
  Speaker 10: who are envisioning a different end state. than the jihadists
• 46:01
  Speaker 10: with their caliphate. This would be global communist rule under
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: the Chinese Communist Party, probably. But they have a common purpose,
• 46:11
  Speaker 10: and that is essentially the same as what bin Laden
• 46:13
  Speaker 10: and his merry band had in mind, which is destroying
• 46:17
  Speaker 10: the United States of America. So if we learn the
• 46:21
  Speaker 10: lessons properly, which is this is about Sharia, or this
• 46:25
  Speaker 10: is about Marxism, totalitarianism, whichever stripe. This is about conquest.
• 46:32
  Speaker 10: This is not about accommodating or somehow living side by
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: side with those who believe that it is either a
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: law's will or, you know, the legacy of Karl Marx
• 46:45
  Speaker 10: that they must defeat and destroy us, force us into submission,
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: force us into enslavement. That is the core of the
• 46:56
  Speaker 10: challenge we face at the moment. I was very heartened,
• 46:58
  Speaker 10: I have to say. I was at the Republican convention
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: in Dallas yesterday. There was some very, very compelling arguments made,
• 47:08
  Speaker 10: briefings offered, the sort of insights that have really not
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: been much in evidence since 9-11, frankly, that we have
• 47:18
  Speaker 10: no choice. But to resist these threats. And I think
• 47:24
  Speaker 10: the time has come when a mandate will be given
• 47:28
  Speaker 10: to political leadership to do just that come November. I
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: pray that's the case.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And for the audience to understand, we did a whole
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: hour special about this. And if the audience missed it,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: I'd encourage you to go back to OAN Live, find
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: the episode that we did for an hour together talking
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: about the threat. of radical Islam, about Sharia and the
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Islamo-Marxist sort of red-green alliance that's taking place in the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: United States and in Europe. But what's important for the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: audience to understand is we have this— Basically, through Marxism
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and through Marxist tactics, we have a coalition between Islamists
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and communists who are using the same tactics to overthrow
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: the government, essentially. And they're—an enemy of my enemy is
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: my friend. And they didn't learn their lesson in Iran.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: They're cozying up with the Islamic extremists, thinking that, yeah,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be hunky-dory when we overthrow the U.S.
• 48:18
  Speaker 10: Government.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened in Iran. The Islamists got rid
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: of all the communists. They'll do the same thing here.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: We're starting to see that. in the United States itself.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Now is the time where the communists and the Islamists
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: get together and sort of kumbaya so they can overthrow
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: the government, take power, and then it becomes time to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: get rid of the communists, and then it becomes an
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Islamic— basically an Islamic state, a caliphate, as you said. That
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: is the real risk, and people need to take it seriously.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: If you look at Plano, Texas, if you look to— what
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: do they call it? What do they call that? Megacity?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: They had some weird name for it.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Epic.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Epic city. That's what, epic city. They wanted to.
• 48:54
  Speaker 10: Islamic center.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That was a Muslim only community where with Sharia law
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: was going to be enacted. The state had to ban it.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's how serious it got. That's what they
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: want to do here, right?
• 49:06
  Speaker 10: Very much so. And it's not just in East Plano.
• 49:09
  Speaker 10: This is happening in Katy. This is happening in Southern Texas.
• 49:12
  Speaker 10: This is happening in other parts of the country where
• 49:17
  Speaker 10: inexorably following a playbook that was laid out by the
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: Muslim Brotherhood back in 1991, it's called the Explanatory Memorandum.
• 49:26
  Speaker 10: It was introduced into evidence in the largest terrorism financing
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: trial in U.S. history, the Holy Land Foundation trial back
• 49:32
  Speaker 10: in 2008. And it helped convict five individuals who were
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: raising funds for Hamas. using that Muslim Brotherhood playbook. What
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: we know is over time, they will use the phenomenon
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: of the Hidra, as they call it, immigration to spread
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: the faith, to increase their numbers here. And people will say, well,
• 49:56
  Speaker 10: you're talking about all Muslims. I'm not, I'm talking about
• 49:59
  Speaker 10: Muslims who adhere to Sharia. I'm talking about those who
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: believe that jihad is their way. They must conquer us,
• 50:07
  Speaker 10: they must pursue our submission. There are Muslims who don't.
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: Some of them are Muslims who came here to get
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: away from Sharia. Unfortunately, the majority of those of the
• 50:20
  Speaker 10: Muslim world follow the authoritative version. And they have a
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: term for those that we would call good Muslims, the
• 50:30
  Speaker 10: people that we may know, that we work with, maybe
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: they're our doctors, what have you. They call them apostates.
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: And that is a capital offense. And so consequently, it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: very dangerous to exhibit their deviation. Therefore, we don't hear
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: much from them. Therefore, they're not much help in this fight,
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: which brings us back to the core.
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: Of the matter.
• 50:51
  Speaker 10: Those who are Sharia adherent are obliged to try to
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: make a... global caliphate, if you will, a mechanism for
• 51:01
  Speaker 10: imposing Sharia law everywhere. And yes, David, people might hear
• 51:05
  Speaker 10: this and say, well, that can't possibly happen in the
• 51:07
  Speaker 10: United States. First of all, you've pointed to examples of
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: how this is built out. I call it frog boiling.
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: You know, how do you boil a frog? Slowly, you
• 51:17
  Speaker 10: turn up the heat. That's what they've been doing, these
• 51:21
  Speaker 10: accommodations one after another, many of which seem innocuous at
• 51:25
  Speaker 10: the time and consequently sometimes corrupt politicians, sometimes people who
• 51:29
  Speaker 10: simply think, well, this isn't that big a deal. It
• 51:32
  Speaker 10: ultimately results in that end state. And take, not my
• 51:37
  Speaker 10: word for it, the example of what has been happening
• 51:41
  Speaker 10: in Europe. You had some references to that in your clip.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: It's palpable. We are losing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: Western civilization country by country as a result in part
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: of that immigration, but also in part of the accommodations,
• 51:54
  Speaker 10: the acquiescence, the submission, that we have seen other nations
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: engage in, and we're in the process of doing it
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: here as well.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Frank Gaffney, 25 years after 9-11, the fight continues. Now
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: it's at the ballot box, and it's incumbent on all
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: of us to keep that fight going.
• 52:12
  Speaker 10: To defeat— Election jihad.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: That's it. We have to defeat radical Islam in this country.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: Frank Gaffney, thank you so much for being here today.
• 52:19
  Speaker 10: Thank you for attending to this matter.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: God bless you, David.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: You too.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Well, that's our show for tonight on this 25th anniversary
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: of the day that changed everything. We do the one
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: thing our enemies never wanted us to do. We remember.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: We remember the 2,977 souls stolen from us that morning.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: We remember the firefighters who ran up while everyone else
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: ran down. And we say it again, and this time
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: we mean it, never forget God. As always, you can
• 52:45
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• 52:48
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• 52:51
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• 52:54
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