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The Breakfast Club Best Of Episode(Joe Clair Interview, LL Cool J And The Roots Interview, Fab Five Freddy Interview, What Makes You Not Want To Hook Up With A Guy?) · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: My grandmother.
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  Speaker 2: Club Wa got the Breakfast Club, Envy and Charlomagne the
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  Speaker 2: voice of the culture.
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  Speaker 3: Then I'm gona come here when this see y'all different,
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  Speaker 3: y'all the culture it's different.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like y'all know what you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: This is probably becoming the most prominent form for hip problem.
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  Speaker 5: Being here next to all of you guys.
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  Speaker 4: It's really put it in perspective to the Breakfast Club. Bitch,
• 0:24
  Speaker 4: wake up. It's your time to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 4: Way up, whether you're man or bleats, time to get
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  Speaker 4: up and get something.
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  Speaker 6: Call up now.
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  Speaker 7: Eight hundred five eighty five one O five one. We
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  Speaker 7: want to hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: Hello. Who's this is?
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  Speaker 8: Nasty blind?
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  Speaker 4: But Hello Envy, nasty blind buck? What up? Brother? That
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  Speaker 4: sounds the gross man y'all y'all don't know where your
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  Speaker 4: mind nasty blinding up with.
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  Speaker 8: All blind beauty?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah from VA man somethtimes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, how are you, sir? How's it going?
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  Speaker 10: I'm good.
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  Speaker 6: How y'all doing?
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  Speaker 4: Man less black and Holly? Yeah? Man.
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  Speaker 11: I just want to tell y'all about my podcast that
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  Speaker 11: y'all got me started.
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  Speaker 8: It's called three am part. Okay, Yeah, so I'm just
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  Speaker 8: interviewing like a bunch of local and blind people out
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  Speaker 8: there in the world that's.
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  Speaker 6: Going through life andy doing different things.
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  Speaker 10: So John, following me on that, I g at three
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  Speaker 10: am part.
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  Speaker 4: You said you you interviewing local blind people.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, local blind people and blind people. Uh, just all
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  Speaker 8: over the world.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, my last interview I had a blind artist up there.
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  Speaker 8: He's from Maryland.
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  Speaker 10: So yeah, man, I'm just interviewing everybody that's doing something.
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  Speaker 6: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I like the idea of that podcast. Man, I can
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  Speaker 3: I can see that work.
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  Speaker 12: But there's a lot there's a lot of blind people
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  Speaker 12: that that actually listen, so so how can they get
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  Speaker 12: in touch with you if they want to get on
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  Speaker 12: your podcast?
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  Speaker 3: All right, listen following me with I g at three
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  Speaker 3: am pot a brother by the way, and you can go.
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  Speaker 8: On Spotify and listen to the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: If you're going to lot to launch a podcasts, you
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  Speaker 3: should think of a unique angle because there's so many
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  Speaker 3: podcasts out there, so in order to cut through the noise,
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  Speaker 3: you got to have like a unique angle, and that
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  Speaker 3: is a very unique game.
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  Speaker 12: I think he can get more creative with the name
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  Speaker 12: what was it all three am pogast?
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  Speaker 4: Oh what does that mean?
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  Speaker 13: Though?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think you some ofem more like
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  Speaker 4: let him know its blind people being interviewed. There might
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  Speaker 4: be it might be should I ask them, might be
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  Speaker 4: some meeting behind that. Hung up? Hello, who is this?
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  Speaker 6: Good morning, Envy?
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  Speaker 8: Good morning? Uh, good morning Queen.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah. I just Amy, please don't hang up for me.
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  Speaker 13: I got two things, man. I just want to talk
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  Speaker 13: about the topic you had yesterday, man, and when he
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  Speaker 13: touched me man and had my allergies acting up.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
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  Speaker 13: When it comes to the marriage thing, I've been married
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  Speaker 13: for pretty much fifteen years, been together for twenty two.
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  Speaker 13: I love my queen unconditioning. I don't care what she
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  Speaker 13: goes through. I'm going through that with her, and for
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  Speaker 13: the most part, man. My second thing is that I
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  Speaker 13: just want to shout my queen and my kids out, man,
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  Speaker 13: because I never got a chance to do that last time, Envy,
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  Speaker 13: And I just want to let them know that Shaun
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  Speaker 13: and Sandys, TJ Tyler, to Rio and j Jo Brad,
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  Speaker 13: you love y'all wholeheartedly. And every day I'm gonna strive
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  Speaker 13: to be a better father, a better friend to my wife,
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  Speaker 13: and it's a better person for the black community.
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  Speaker 8: Man.
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  Speaker 13: I just want to let y'all know, y'all make the
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  Speaker 13: red more logical when it comes to thinking about realizing
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  Speaker 13: that our communities need people like you guys, man, because
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  Speaker 13: it's a lot of negativity ill re is and one
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  Speaker 13: thing I said about you guys, you put it in
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  Speaker 13: perspective the way it needs to be put.
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  Speaker 8: And I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 13: Brothers man because every day you motivate me to be better.
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  Speaker 13: You motive beat me to get my buddy go make
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  Speaker 13: it happy for my family. And I just want you
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  Speaker 13: to know, man, I love y'all, man, and thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Is this that's me Kanya from the Well. I'm Jamaican.
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  Speaker 9: With nothing to give you guys.
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  Speaker 1: New my son got absected to heart bread doctor doctory
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  Speaker 1: say and guess what happened. I've been listening to you
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  Speaker 1: guys for years, every morning we dragged from the Bronx
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  Speaker 1: to Manhattan to suck this academy. And I've been reading
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  Speaker 1: for years, taking up to school every day to sit
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  Speaker 1: up to all the success teachers brings up to that school.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I'm so proud of my son.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 9: You know what happens. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 10: Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has a story, but Charlomy always did the craziest
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  Speaker 1: people from the Bronx in Florida. And I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: lying to you. Tell I mean, you're returning to your opinion.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you this. Great things is not
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  Speaker 1: where you're raised their kids is how you raised them.
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  Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. And my son put out
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  Speaker 1: the most effortless work. I watched him every day, how
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  Speaker 1: he goes hard, hard, really hard. And just keep his
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  Speaker 1: name in your mind because he's going in for economics
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  Speaker 1: and government and.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we wish him the best.
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  Speaker 3: May God be with him always.
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  Speaker 4: That's son. The smartest people come from the Bronx. Tell Charlamagne,
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  Speaker 4: the smartest people come from the Bronx.
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  Speaker 1: The smartest people come from the Bronx. But we original
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  Speaker 1: in Jamaican.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Okay, now cut it out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want them to pull the application right because
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  Speaker 3: you're acting like the fire a little too much.
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  Speaker 9: No no, no, no no no no, don't do that.
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  Speaker 4: Don't do that.
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  Speaker 12: Happy Holidays, get it off your chest. Eight hundred five
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  Speaker 12: eight five one oh five one. If you need to vent,
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  Speaker 12: hit us up now. It's the breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 7: The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it
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  Speaker 7: off your chest. Eight hundred five eight five five one.
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  Speaker 7: We want to hear from you on the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 6: Hello, who's this good morning?
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  Speaker 10: Should love me from the brook.
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  Speaker 4: I should have knew he was calling.
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  Speaker 6: Love.
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  Speaker 12: You got two brown skin women up here, and I
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  Speaker 12: know you were gonna call immediately.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, yes, I just want to say shout out to
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  Speaker 13: them because I don't like to see my queens go.
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  Speaker 4: At it so that browns go grand.
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  Speaker 6: I'm glad they grinded that out.
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  Speaker 8: I know Charlamagne tried to get him.
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  Speaker 4: To go at each other. Not true and love.
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  Speaker 12: He calls all the time, ladies because he has a
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  Speaker 12: thirteen and a half inch penis.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't even have to say that.
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  Speaker 14: Guy.
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  Speaker 4: Fact that you said that, it's silly because you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to.
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  Speaker 1: Say that, I know somebody number you start calling like thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't even have to say that, I have nothing
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  Speaker 4: to do with other. Just let him know.
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  Speaker 13: I'm glad you let him know.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, I love you.
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  Speaker 3: You never go on, and then y'all be wondering why
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  Speaker 3: people be saying stuff about men all of God. Damn,
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  Speaker 3: that's how you present Hi, I'm love You have a
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  Speaker 3: thirteen inch penis. Here you go, Hey, this is my
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  Speaker 3: friend love you. He got a thirteen inch penis.
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  Speaker 4: I did not say love. He was my friend. He
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  Speaker 4: called introduced him.
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  Speaker 6: And he calls all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he calls. That's how thirteen and a half already,
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  Speaker 4: that's about it when he calls. So it's kind of
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  Speaker 4: like his brain here.
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  Speaker 6: Is his calling hard all right, figeral check it out?
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  Speaker 4: So she said it's true.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 12: You gotta ask how she check it out?
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, playing, this is.
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  Speaker 13: My name is.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you good. I'm upset with my job because we
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  Speaker 11: just got worried that they are closing down.
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  Speaker 4: Spotify.
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  Speaker 10: Damn, No, I.
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  Speaker 11: Worked in Westchester County. It's an RTC. I don't want
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  Speaker 11: to say, but it's it's the RTC, you know what
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  Speaker 11: that is?
• 7:48
  Speaker 6: The residential treatment set us.
• 7:50
  Speaker 11: So it's just like a bad time for like just overall,
• 7:54
  Speaker 11: it's never a good time to get laid off. But
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  Speaker 11: it was no transparency, you know, with us, and they
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  Speaker 11: knew they were going down, but they just never you know,
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  Speaker 11: told us, and the more around.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, lo, yeah, I'm sorry, mama.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, they just they're just a bunch of snakes over
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  Speaker 11: there and right.
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  Speaker 12: By the hot right during the holiday season too.
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  Speaker 4: That really is exactly sorry about that. So yeah, sorry
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  Speaker 4: to hear that, queen. That's awful.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 11: But I'm looking to like going to some other things
• 8:24
  Speaker 11: as far as like ducking the contract. I'm the definitely
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  Speaker 11: go hard on that.
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  Speaker 4: You want to put your cash out out there, just
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: you know, just in case.
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  Speaker 14: I mean I can, but not of you know, mind
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  Speaker 14: now money, never mind, don't you worry about it?
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  Speaker 4: Don't you worry about it? Don't you worry about it?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, no no no.
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: No, no no no no, I don't even worry about it.
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  Speaker 11: What's your petty self?
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  Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, Go ahead, put it out there.
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  Speaker 10: Mama's dollar sign neb and easy A les l e
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  Speaker 10: Z twenty one.
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  Speaker 4: Now you're in west Chester, you're locks fan, oh big time?
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  Speaker 11: And Mary maybe underneath my window in the project.
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: So you're going to the show. Hold you said, Neva
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  Speaker 4: lens n e v a l.
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  Speaker 11: E d Neva les So you're going, yeah me, put
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  Speaker 11: my name out there.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, popped up on your cash. I'm gonna send
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  Speaker 4: you a little just for lunch today. That's all all right,
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  Speaker 4: thank you.
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  Speaker 11: I appreciate that.
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: If you got it, you got it. I just sent
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  Speaker 4: it to you. Sounds sweet. And you said you was
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: Mary J. Blige. Auntie. I gotta I gotta fit Mary
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  Speaker 4: set up under your window on the project. That's the Auntie.
• 9:35
  Speaker 6: You know, you'll be Auntie the person next door.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you, guys, jumpy, half a good week and be blessed.
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  Speaker 6: All right, you have holiday.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sweet, Thank you. Get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 12: Eight hundred five eight five one o five on if
• 9:48
  Speaker 12: you need to vent, hit us up now.
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club Morning, the Breakfast Club. More than
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  Speaker 4: everybody's dj n V.
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  Speaker 12: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got
• 9:59
  Speaker 12: a special yes in the buildinghold harm the legendary.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: I see he got his Morgan State. Really bro, really bro,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I just you know, want to put my helmet.
• 10:09
  Speaker 15: Oh man, brother, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning.
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: How y'all doing? Explain this to me? I know that
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: the Hampton Howard rivalry, but what's Morgan State.
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  Speaker 15: So every HBCU thinks it's the greatest HBCU that has
• 10:24
  Speaker 15: ever been HBCU guys, correct, The only real one is
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  Speaker 15: Morgan State.
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  Speaker 4: But then the other ones still feel like they are
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  Speaker 4: a Morgan State.
• 10:33
  Speaker 15: So you have that Howard Hampton thing on more House
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  Speaker 15: thinks it's Morgan State.
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: You know, fam you thinks it's Morgan State.
• 10:39
  Speaker 15: And know this, I love those institutions, great institutions who
• 10:42
  Speaker 15: turn out incredible people.
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: But then nines, watch your mouth. Yeah, Morgan State.
• 10:48
  Speaker 12: I was gonna go to Morgan State because that's the
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  Speaker 12: first school that's on the tour.
• 10:51
  Speaker 4: You know your argument. Let me tell you I was
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: gonna go to Morgan.
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  Speaker 12: I was gonna go to you know, we go to
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  Speaker 12: Morgan Howard vs U Virginia and then Hampton Hampton, right,
• 11:00
  Speaker 12: and I went to Morgan State. I remember it like
• 11:01
  Speaker 12: it was yesterday. The first thing we go on that
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  Speaker 12: on the campus, well what you want to call it
• 11:05
  Speaker 12: a campus?
• 11:06
  Speaker 15: Oh no, you didn't just be cause y'all got that
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  Speaker 15: little river running behind y'all, little school.
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  Speaker 4: Little campus.
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  Speaker 12: And then you know what I seen on my dad scene,
• 11:13
  Speaker 12: y'all playing craps on the steps. Now My dad was like,
• 11:16
  Speaker 12: this is the same.
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  Speaker 4: Thing as Queens. Why are you gonna leave Queens to
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  Speaker 4: come to Baltimore. That's the school you want.
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  Speaker 15: To play craps on the steps, That's what men need
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  Speaker 15: to go to. So mine was the complete object.
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  Speaker 6: As soon as I seen.
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  Speaker 4: The crowd, like this is the place for me.
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  Speaker 15: This is definitely the place for me to get a degree.
• 11:34
  Speaker 15: I was perfect made five years. Then five years served
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  Speaker 15: me well for five years in Baltimore. To do it
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  Speaker 15: for no, I ain't doing it for me if I
• 11:43
  Speaker 15: didn't five, No, I did. I did my five and
• 11:46
  Speaker 15: I was an r a man. I did everything you
• 11:48
  Speaker 15: could do at school. I was the mascot want semester.
• 11:51
  Speaker 15: I needed a gym credit. Okay, I needed a gym credit.
• 11:54
  Speaker 16: Uh.
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: They was like, you wanna go live weights or you
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: wanna be the mask? I said, man, give me the
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: bear outfits I was.
• 12:01
  Speaker 15: I was the most DC bed he ate I had
• 12:04
  Speaker 15: on my new Balance because it was a raggedy suit.
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: Listen Charlamne, it was a raggedy suit.
• 12:09
  Speaker 15: At the time, we didn't have the funding to get
• 12:11
  Speaker 15: a new mascot out for At that time, mortgage State
• 12:15
  Speaker 15: was going through something so they gave me the old
• 12:17
  Speaker 15: one that they used to have, and the the head
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  Speaker 15: was perfect, the suit, the feet cottage.
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: So I used to rock whatever.
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  Speaker 15: The bed would come out rocking fresh new bus, new
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  Speaker 15: butter tims, and everybody who was the bed.
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  Speaker 4: He fresh, whoever, the freshest man we ever had.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, if you walk on the HBCU campus and rolling
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: dice schedule, you might not need to go to ANHBC.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: Like, this is the same thing I seen in Queen's
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: and I don't want my kid, you know, rolling craps.
• 12:49
  Speaker 6: But that was so what it is.
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: We wasn't rolling craft. That was a probability study.
• 12:54
  Speaker 15: You wasn't your father, It wasn't your pops, wasn't here.
• 12:57
  Speaker 15: That was just a probability study in the engineering the park.
• 13:01
  Speaker 12: Now let's talk about what's going on here and Morgan
• 13:04
  Speaker 12: right now Morgan State, you know there was a shooting
• 13:06
  Speaker 12: there recently. You guys have canceled the homecoming and there
• 13:09
  Speaker 12: was a lot going on. So have you reached back
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  Speaker 12: out to the school. How is everything happening now? Because
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  Speaker 12: I know you're big when it comes to giving back
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  Speaker 12: to that school.
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  Speaker 14: So I was.
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  Speaker 15: Supposed to actually host our homecoming gala, which is the
• 13:21
  Speaker 15: biggest fundraiser of the year. I hosted Gaily years shirt
• 13:23
  Speaker 15: you know, Tuxedo out, and that got postponed to December
• 13:27
  Speaker 15: the eighth. The official homecoming got canceled, but Black people
• 13:32
  Speaker 15: Homecoming went on as playing. Oh they were still party.
• 13:36
  Speaker 15: They called it because the homecoming got canceled. Brunch because
• 13:39
  Speaker 15: the homegum got canceled. Day party because the home So
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  Speaker 15: we you know, you have thousands of people who were
• 13:44
  Speaker 15: looking forward to this weekend, so they came down and
• 13:46
  Speaker 15: had a great time and showed solidarity.
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: After the shooting. You had mothers.
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  Speaker 15: There was a group of mothers who got together who
• 13:54
  Speaker 15: didn't have kids in school, who came up just to
• 13:57
  Speaker 15: show support for kids who were far away from I'm home.
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  Speaker 4: Who needed a mom.
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  Speaker 15: If you need a hug, if you need to ask
• 14:03
  Speaker 15: a mom question real quick, we're standing right here. And
• 14:07
  Speaker 15: so while the tragedy happened, and you know, our prayers
• 14:10
  Speaker 15: are with those students and their families and everybody affected,
• 14:14
  Speaker 15: there's also this gigantic push of solidarity, this gigantic push
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  Speaker 15: of unity. This is a new Morgan State, and we're
• 14:21
  Speaker 15: gonna stand together to shake off some of the old
• 14:25
  Speaker 15: reputation and move in a new positive way. When things
• 14:29
  Speaker 15: like this pop up, it throws a monkey rich into
• 14:32
  Speaker 15: the we're a new Morgan thing. So we came out
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  Speaker 15: even stronger.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: That's why I've been I've been orange and blue since
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: that day.
• 14:39
  Speaker 15: You know, my kids are walking around with the hats
• 14:41
  Speaker 15: and everything else, and I'm screaming it out as much
• 14:44
  Speaker 15: as I possibly can these institutions. You know, I don't
• 14:47
  Speaker 15: have to come on here and preach to you what
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  Speaker 15: an HB means for our community. So you know, at
• 14:53
  Speaker 15: this time in my life, I'm happy to be able
• 14:55
  Speaker 15: to be there for my school. Whatever they need. They
• 14:58
  Speaker 15: call me for anything, if the you just need anything.
• 15:00
  Speaker 15: My five brothers need anything, they hit me up and like,
• 15:03
  Speaker 15: let's go do X, Y and Z.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Do you think they should have canceled on coming.
• 15:06
  Speaker 15: I think it was a good call by doctor Wilson
• 15:09
  Speaker 15: is an incredible leader for that school. And let's imagine
• 15:13
  Speaker 15: if he didn't cancel this. Black Mama ain't canceling. It's
• 15:16
  Speaker 15: a tragedy. So he did the smart thing. He did
• 15:19
  Speaker 15: the thing that someone in academia should do. Let's cancel this.
• 15:24
  Speaker 15: Everybody else, though, we went and partied and everybody had
• 15:27
  Speaker 15: a great.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Times, all the events around homecomings.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, none of that. You ain't.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: You ain't canceling rare essence.
• 15:34
  Speaker 15: You ain't canceling the go go because you know, you're
• 15:37
  Speaker 15: not even supposed to have a go go in Baltimore
• 15:39
  Speaker 15: in the first place. So the fact that you got
• 15:41
  Speaker 15: a go go in Baltimore or we coming and you're
• 15:44
  Speaker 15: not canceling that you can't have go go in Baltimore.
• 15:46
  Speaker 15: It's too old Baltimore.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Most of the country doesn't really doesn't know that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 15: There is a unspoken rivalry between the African American community
• 15:56
  Speaker 15: and Baltimore and the African American community in DC.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: They got their own language, and so we have two.
• 16:03
  Speaker 15: We grew up with two different like you said, culches,
• 16:06
  Speaker 15: different accents, music, food, we did, way we dress and
• 16:12
  Speaker 15: the and the like. So when I got to Baltimore,
• 16:15
  Speaker 15: there was no go go, but soever you did not
• 16:18
  Speaker 15: don't even don't even bring that up in Baltimore now
• 16:22
  Speaker 15: because of I think because of the twenty thirty years
• 16:24
  Speaker 15: that DC has been heavy going to Morgan State making
• 16:27
  Speaker 15: alliances in the city. My wife is from the West Side. First,
• 16:30
  Speaker 15: let me say that my wife is from the West
• 16:31
  Speaker 15: side of Baltimore, and when I married a Baltimore woman,
• 16:35
  Speaker 15: the DC women like.
• 16:36
  Speaker 17: Hold on ah ha jaa, No, you haven't had some
• 16:42
  Speaker 17: of that that old baita she served. She's got a
• 16:48
  Speaker 17: crab boy for your ass that you you don't know
• 16:51
  Speaker 17: nothing about.
• 16:52
  Speaker 15: And so I think that there's there's this slowly but
• 16:55
  Speaker 15: surely there's there's an alliance that has been coming between
• 16:59
  Speaker 15: Baltimore and DC, and the hard line has been softened.
• 17:02
  Speaker 15: I won't say this is an alliance, but the hard
• 17:04
  Speaker 15: line has been softened. But you never hear about this
• 17:07
  Speaker 15: rivalry that we have that goes on. I think it's
• 17:10
  Speaker 15: the stupidest thing ever. I think that the two communities,
• 17:14
  Speaker 15: African American communities in those major cities. D C's a
• 17:17
  Speaker 15: major city, Baltimore's a major city.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: I think we need to come. Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Is there anything that brings you all together? I would
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: think like comedy, right, because I think your comedy underrated.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Comedy is an underrated comedy scene in Baltimore, DC because
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: you got Dave, you got Donall so here just hilarious.
• 17:34
  Speaker 15: So here's how we feel about that. The same applies.
• 17:37
  Speaker 15: So it's like this growing up. Anything coming out of Baltimore,
• 17:40
  Speaker 15: you just automatically X. And if you in Baltimore, anything
• 17:43
  Speaker 15: coming out of DC, you just automatically X. Nadi, you
• 17:46
  Speaker 15: don't know them. I learned that from my.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Baltimore goons. What's up with y'all? I ain't saying no names,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: what's up with y'all? But I know some straight goods.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And you know Baltimore, you know the why it was real.
• 18:01
  Speaker 15: Let's let's let's keep let's keep it the buck, the
• 18:03
  Speaker 15: wire was real, and the climate in Baltimore.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: It's serious. It's very very serious.
• 18:10
  Speaker 15: So it's gonna take thirty forty years for that alliance
• 18:14
  Speaker 15: to pop off. We're talking about black folks who are
• 18:17
  Speaker 15: setting their ways. Black folks are very very slow to change,
• 18:21
  Speaker 15: and unless you have a reason to change, a very
• 18:24
  Speaker 15: straightforward reason to change, it ain't gonna be that much change.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: When we come back with Kicking It with Joe Claire,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: So don't move. It's the Breakfast Club, Good Morning, the
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Breakfast Club porting everybody.
• 18:37
  Speaker 12: It's DJ n V, Charlamagne the guy. We are the
• 18:40
  Speaker 12: Breakfast Club. But kicking it with Joe Claire, of course
• 18:43
  Speaker 12: from Rap City.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Charlomagne.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Another thing too. I was watching the doc. Man, I've
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: always loved the interview you did with Big. That's that's
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the iconic INTERVIGI, And I knew that was Big.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I couldn't. I knew that was big last interview. It
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: was his last television interview. I think, I think I
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: think sway might have been his last. He was going,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: he went and did the radio. Now, did y'all shoot
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: that in La? Shot it in La? That's what we
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: was laying like in the park, right, So we really
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: were on a sound.
• 19:09
  Speaker 15: Stage and they were shooting the hypnotized video. The dance
• 19:13
  Speaker 15: scenes were going on in there. So they took a
• 19:16
  Speaker 15: break from that sat us outside and that's how that
• 19:20
  Speaker 15: interview popped off.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Always wondered, were you concerned for your safety shooting at
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: in La at the time, because it was all the
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: East coast, West coast beef and all of that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 15: I'm concerned for my safety every day, so my head
• 19:30
  Speaker 15: is always on a swivel. So I didn't feel any
• 19:32
  Speaker 15: more concern than I normally feel when I go to LA.
• 19:36
  Speaker 15: I just know, like doing Rap City, the thing that
• 19:39
  Speaker 15: I knew was when you go to somebody hood, when
• 19:41
  Speaker 15: you go to a city, you abide by they rules.
• 19:43
  Speaker 15: You shut your mouth, don't start no shit, won't be
• 19:46
  Speaker 15: no tea. So Nah, I didn't have any extra concerns
• 19:49
  Speaker 15: for my safety that day. We had plenty of security.
• 19:51
  Speaker 15: ANIMI civilian y.
• 19:53
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Then I sit and I do the interview.
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: It's a great day season Junior Mafia right behind us,
• 19:57
  Speaker 15: the dancing girls over there.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Then he said, you want to smoke something to day
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: just got better.
• 20:03
  Speaker 15: I'm not a smoker, but if you're gonna smoke with somebody,
• 20:05
  Speaker 15: you're gonna smoke with Biggie Smoke. So I had to
• 20:08
  Speaker 15: catch a red eye that night because I was going
• 20:11
  Speaker 15: out on the Deaf Comedy Jam tour. This was the
• 20:14
  Speaker 15: first night, so I had to fly home Wednesday. After
• 20:17
  Speaker 15: getting the interview, pack my bags, get on the tour
• 20:20
  Speaker 15: buses coming from Kid and pre Little Jersey coming down
• 20:23
  Speaker 15: to DC, pick me up and then we drive to Dallas.
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: We do the show in Dallas. The next night we
• 20:26
  Speaker 15: go to Houston. Do the show in Houston.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Had a ball and three thirty four o'clock in the morning,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Kid called my.
• 20:32
  Speaker 15: Phone, like yo, they say, Biggie guys shot you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 15: it's four o'clock in the Morning've been out drinking, like whatever,
• 20:39
  Speaker 15: you know, it's just some more hip hop here say book.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: Then my girlfriend at the time called me.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: She was like, they say, Biggie guys shot. Let me
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: turn on headline news. Y'all remember headline News.
• 20:49
  Speaker 15: Then every half hour, first story rapper Christopher Wallace has
• 20:52
  Speaker 15: gunned down.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: At this point, the interview wasn't out. Interview's not out.
• 20:56
  Speaker 15: I just was this is Sunday morning. I just dead Wednesday.
• 21:01
  Speaker 15: This is Sunday morning at six in the morning. So nah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 15: no interview out. They ain't get time to try. They
• 21:07
  Speaker 15: still in la party and just those next couple of weeks,
• 21:11
  Speaker 15: when I got to reflect on it, I realized I
• 21:13
  Speaker 15: was just numb because Tupac had just died and now
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: Biggie got killed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I was like, we cannot be that dumb?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Are we?
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Black folks were really not that stupid?
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: Are we?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Is this who we are? Time has shown that. Unfortunately
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: It's sad.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: It was one of those times Charlemagne and Envy where
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I really just I'm very us.
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: I was like, man, I man a lot of that,
• 21:37
  Speaker 15: so a lot of the like hanging out and I
• 21:40
  Speaker 15: just did not want to do like because I don't
• 21:44
  Speaker 15: know what you on. And then and I watched cats,
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: I knew some of the most righteous dudes. Next thing
• 21:49
  Speaker 15: I know, he he come with the chain and he
• 21:52
  Speaker 15: gotta get his swag together.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: You you, you've been made since you was nineteen years
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: and ten years old. You've been made. You've been a man.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I know your family, I know what you staying on.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: You switching up because you think this is what the
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: coach a dog man my head up and has colored
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: how I see us. Since then, nothing has changed your
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: mind about it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 15: I mean remember, leading up to that, I sat in
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: the middle of the East Coast West Coast thing every week,
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: every day, every rapper's got something to say about the
• 22:21
  Speaker 15: other coast.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Is that what made you start saying the East Coast
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: West Coast worldwide? I took it straight from the Lost Boys.
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: Yes, we really need to we really need to do
• 22:29
  Speaker 15: this big shout out to Mac ten and Fat Joe
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: because I don't know if you guys remember they did
• 22:34
  Speaker 15: a movie Thinking and Water Up something like that. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 15: then and Fat Joe realized and Fat Joe used to
• 22:40
  Speaker 15: be coming up to this show like man that I'm
• 22:42
  Speaker 15: keeping a flame going on this East.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Coast West Coast. After that, I see Joe and he's like, naw,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: they cool.
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: And then you used to see mac ten and Mactin
• 22:50
  Speaker 15: like nah they cool, They're super cool. And then you
• 22:53
  Speaker 15: found out it really wasn't the East Coast versus. It
• 22:56
  Speaker 15: was the media making in and it was Park against
• 23:00
  Speaker 15: Biggie and they used to be best friends, and now
• 23:02
  Speaker 15: we're looking at really just came down. The two best
• 23:05
  Speaker 15: friends fell out. Now they have other influences, and that
• 23:09
  Speaker 15: just got bigger and bigger and bigger.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Control.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You know, we have conversations on the Breakfast Club that
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: have ended up confrontational. Did y'all have any of those
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: on Rap City that y'all?
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: Y'all?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: The only person who ever like tried to sum me?
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: He sum me one time.
• 23:23
  Speaker 15: It was my first live taping and I'm interview on
• 23:26
  Speaker 15: Pete Rock and cl Smooth, my heroes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: My I know they album back to, backward and forward.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I know everything. I know every syllable of that album.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: So it's like five four three two go.
• 23:38
  Speaker 15: I'm like, hey, it's Rap City, Joe play Hea blah
• 23:40
  Speaker 15: blah blah blah blah blah blahn do my thing, So
• 23:43
  Speaker 15: what's up with you, and then I don't get nothing
• 23:45
  Speaker 15: from cl He's pretty so then the cameras cut off.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, son, you mad extra. I said, what
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: what you mean? He's like yo over the top, he
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: like mad extras. Yo, bring it down a little little bit.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Five four three two. All right, challie man, Joe clar
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: here on't rap City. I got bigger end for me.
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: I took it as a vet somebody who was in
• 24:10
  Speaker 15: the industry showing me what he thought I should be.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: No skin off my you know that's what you think
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: I should be already know Joe Cliar And if it's nothing,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I know joke. I know what Joe clet do. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I stayed extra for five years. I appreciate y'all this conversation.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Oh man, And we just let me get there's a
• 24:34
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• 24:35
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• 24:36
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• 24:39
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• 24:43
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• 24:47
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• 24:51
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• 24:54
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• 24:56
  Speaker 15: when you got your next shows. I do my own
• 24:59
  Speaker 15: shows monthly play at a spot called Bowie in Bowie, Maryland.
• 25:02
  Speaker 15: So we do a comedy show in Bowie. Very intelligent,
• 25:06
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• 25:09
  Speaker 15: in there. We got heavy hitters coming through each and
• 25:12
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• 25:13
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• 25:17
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• 25:19
  Speaker 8: Just go that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Just gonna thank you. Well, it's Joe Claar, ladies, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: you make sure you watched the Rap City dot Ye see,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club. Your
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: mornings will never be the same morning.
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: Everybody's DJ n V Charlamagne the guy we are the
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: Breakfast Club. He got our special guest co host Cappuccino here,
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: of course from Power ninety nine out in Philly. So
• 25:40
  Speaker 12: we're asking eight hundred and five eight five, one oh
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: five to one. Dingo is a gentleman that calls all
• 25:45
  Speaker 12: the time on the Breakfast Club during Get It Off
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: Your Chest. And he called this morning about his weekend
• 25:49
  Speaker 12: and this is what he said.
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: I unsplew this girl out this past week here it
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: was white I ain't gonna lie.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: It was whack.
• 25:57
  Speaker 10: Shout out to Kendrick G. I was all hers show
• 26:00
  Speaker 10: a couple of weeks back there. You know what I'm saying,
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: put up my little my little spiel pass some shorties
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: hit me up. It was cool on one that you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: I decided to fire her out, just having some good
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: conversation because she was from Atlanta, right, So I got
• 26:14
  Speaker 10: her out.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: We was chilling.
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: We was talking. I pay for everything right, take care
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: of her, take care of the arrangements, took caret a hotel.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Took care ofthing we did.
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: But she wasn't really giving me the vibes that it
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: was trying to be romantic. It seemed like she was
• 26:27
  Speaker 10: just looking for a trick.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Tyler, No, no, no, no.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: We talked.
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: We talked for like a good two weeks or so,
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: probably to her coming out right, and we could up
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: a startled there like hey, like you know, you don't
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: you don't want to do nothing like that. That's cool.
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: You just got to let me know before I spend
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: all this money you're making, all this arrangements that you
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: see me, I feel like that's it because you're coming out,
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: you're flying out and I'm taking care of everything. And
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: I told you that, right, and you get here and
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: you're like, oh, I ain't. I ain't trying to be
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: on that, which is cool. I get that. That's fine.
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: But called me up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: So we're asking eight hundred five eight five one oh
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: five one, ladies, what makes you not want to hook
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: up with a guy?
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: All right? He said? He you know, I guess they
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: had a discussion. He thought it was gonna get cheeks.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: He thought the vibe was there and he got nothing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: He was upset about it. Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I think that's a very important question to ask, because
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: we never asked that when we had these uh, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: conversations about women flying out. Because a woman gets on
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a plane, clearly she wants to go. She gets there,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: clearly she wants to be there. But something happens once
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: they meet the individual that turns them off.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I just wonder what it could be.
• 27:32
  Speaker 12: I'll be honest, did you ask the woman in the room, No, lady,
• 27:38
  Speaker 12: I'm not speaking for lady, but I will say this.
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: I don't think and shot the Dingo he calls all
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: the time. I don't think Dingo had a real conversation
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: about the vibe, because how can you have that conversation Kelly.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Flew you out? Did y'all have a conversation before him?
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: When all Kelly flew you out and left you sitting
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: in the hotel room? Did y'all have a conversation before hid?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 27:55
  Speaker 12: We were doing a mixtape. Okay, yeah, we were doing
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: a mixtape. I wasn't expecting nothing, neither was he. Everything
• 28:00
  Speaker 12: mixtape was understood. But I'm saying, like, how do you
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: have that conversation? Hey, I'm gonna fly you out. I'm
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: ana smash, like, you can't have that conversation. That's why
• 28:07
  Speaker 12: I know they didn't have that conversation.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: I mean you can't these days.
• 28:11
  Speaker 18: You know, everyone's bowling up front about stuff, So that
• 28:13
  Speaker 18: conversation's probably had.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: But as Charlemagne said, you know when you get there
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: in person, things change, or what change your mind? Cappuccino.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: If I'm down, you're not married?
• 28:22
  Speaker 18: If you're married, right, yeah, If I'm down with Smashing, cool,
• 28:25
  Speaker 18: But you know, if you drop your pants and something
• 28:26
  Speaker 18: just ain't.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Right, you know, it's like, oh, you mean too small that?
• 28:31
  Speaker 18: Or maybe if I see some stains going on, it's like, oh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 18: you know, the the the self care ain't there.
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: You know, that could be one thing, So maybe a
• 28:39
  Speaker 12: small dingo or some doodles things or something.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I would think the guy might be too thirsty too,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: because even if you know that you and the young
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: lady's supposed to get it in, you don't got to
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: act like that the whole time.
• 28:49
  Speaker 18: I think she'll know from jump when he says I'm
• 28:51
  Speaker 18: gonna fly you out and we're gonna do all this,
• 28:53
  Speaker 18: that alone tells me you're a bit thirsty because you
• 28:55
  Speaker 18: don't even know me. We only been talking for two
• 28:57
  Speaker 18: weeks and you're gonna fly me out and everything. It's
• 28:59
  Speaker 18: no holds bart type situation. Hey, that's a little thirsty.
• 29:03
  Speaker 18: It's a little thirsty.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Let's go to the phone lines. Hello, who's this? Hello?
• 29:07
  Speaker 16: Hid Shade from Columbia, South Carolina.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: What's happening? Talk to a shade?
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: What's going on?
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: Is?
• 29:16
  Speaker 16: My thought is is that you know, she could have
• 29:19
  Speaker 16: just not felt the vibe a lot of times the
• 29:21
  Speaker 16: way we date now, everybody talk and check so much,
• 29:25
  Speaker 16: and you're able to manipulate your personality that when you
• 29:28
  Speaker 16: get in front of each other, nobody has nothing to say.
• 29:31
  Speaker 16: And he could have been arguing and she could have
• 29:33
  Speaker 16: been like I was. But nah, it's no different than when.
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: We dated in the nineties.
• 29:37
  Speaker 16: Once you start interacting with each other, it's like, yeah,
• 29:41
  Speaker 16: this is not what I thought it was gonna be.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: It was you ever got flown out?
• 29:45
  Speaker 16: I have and I've had that happen before too.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: From Columbia.
• 29:52
  Speaker 12: No, no, okay, okay, And and what happened. He didn't
• 30:02
  Speaker 12: look the way he was supposed to look.
• 30:03
  Speaker 16: It's not about look, it's a personality. It's like you
• 30:06
  Speaker 16: talked so much during that timeframe that when you get
• 30:08
  Speaker 16: in front of each other, you don't have nothing to
• 30:11
  Speaker 16: really ask.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: There's nothing to engage each other in.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: So, Shae, how does that work?
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: He flies you from South Carolina in the Vegas So
• 30:17
  Speaker 12: y'all staying in the same moom and you dumb false.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: It's not like you could turn around right then and there.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: So what do you do?
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: I thought in the trooth?
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, so y'all slept in the same being. But yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: that was it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: That was it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: He ain't try to rub up or hump on your.
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: Nothing, right, of course they tried, But I mean it's
• 30:32
  Speaker 16: time my fault. You killed the moon.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's right.
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: Exactly.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Thank you. We got CC on the line, c C.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Good morning, one wing, how y'all one, But so, c C,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: what's your thoughts, Mama?
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: I feel like this it's multiple things.
• 30:48
  Speaker 16: But they said they were talking for two weeks, so
• 30:50
  Speaker 16: it maybe she got there and his bibles off or different.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: Maybe you know, people are different and hurt.
• 30:56
  Speaker 16: I saw some women just like to be promistic, and
• 30:59
  Speaker 16: he must have.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Knew that what she.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Women don't want to feel like something is just transactional.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: You paid for a flight, you paid for some food,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you paid for.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Me for a room. Now I'm just supposed to give
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: you something like maybe she don't want to feel like that. Process.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: You don't want feel like process. That's right. We got
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: we got a brother on a lot, Eddie. Yeah, what's
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: going on and he's looking at this different eddie. What's
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: your thoughts?
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: Man, So I know for a fact, man, chicks just
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: be using dudes. Man then lie to you whatever, you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: just to get flown out for the food or whatever.
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: I mean where I'm from, girl through that all the time.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: My cousin sisters whatever, they'll they'll go chill with a dude,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: go out because they know they gonna get them drunk
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: and eat and then you know they gone on their way.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: So does that does that not make the guy a
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: suck of that? If you know?
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: Because at the end of the day, if you really play,
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: you you still get her. I mean that's what you're
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: there for, you doing and meet and greet her. If
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: you get her and you really play it, I mean
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: you should be a turner.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I just understand what get her to come mence with
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: you just meeting greet on the first trip, you know
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and have her wanting to come back,
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and then maybe on the second or third
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: time y'all.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: You know, y'all might get it in. Like why you
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: got to force it on the first trip.
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: I like that kis right, And sometimes it'd be like that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: As long as you have a good time you go
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: out to eat, y'all lave have some giggles. I mean,
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: what's wrong with that? Next time, y'all can do that through.
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: If not, wait till the next time. I mean, hey,
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: all right, sometimes you gotta wait for that cake.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the real thing to do. And don't ask me
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: because I'm a retire player, so I don't know anything
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: about this. But you fly her out.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Y'all have a good time, y'all kick it, love, you know, love,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: eat all that good stuff. Maybe the next time y'all
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: had such a good time, you be like, y'all want
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to come see you. Now you fly out to her.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, but what I mean is he expected expecting her
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: to pay for that flight.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna fly on my own dime, you know what
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, Just because I had such a good time
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: with you the first time. I guarantee you you play
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it like that, you fly to see her, You're probably
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: gonna get what you was looking for the first time.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Kids. Now, yay, good.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: Morning, kids, now, good morning, good morning.
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: Now we're asking eight hundred and five eighty five one
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: oh five one. Ladies, what makes you not want to
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: give a guy something or or not want a vibe
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: off guy?
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: Talk to us honestly, if they was talking from the
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: floor and they already lined it up, that mother took
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: herself out the drawers.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Sometimes men talk themself out the drawing. They talk too much,
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: talking too fast, okay, And the might of his boys
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: was wide.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I feel like you definitely the bron Okay. I can
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: hear it in your throat. She said, Brooklyn.
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: I'm a Brooklyn girl.
• 33:33
  Speaker 9: But to be honest, then really talk theyself out the drawers.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: Sometimes you'll be like, yeah, when I get over there,
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be orange.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Get there.
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: He's like just clown. Like my mother says, every man
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: you sleep with is your potential baby for the You
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: probably didn't want to waste o coolchie on him.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: No, but what she's saying is real. And I was walking, Yeah,
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I wish guys I was guys like that, and women.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: Thought, like every man you sleep with is your potential
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: baby for the girl. That would have been eighteen years
• 34:04
  Speaker 9: of battle. Luck you say, leave that. It's not that silly.
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: Five minutes for eighteen years of.
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: Stuff for a That's right.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: As the fire con said, the way that people treat
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the science of breeding is like you rolling dice in
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the back of a moving pickup.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: True, Bobby's mad. This is the last called Bobby. You mad? Hi,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Bobby No.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: I just think people's expectations be kind of crazy. Only
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: knowing somebody after two weeks and flying out and expecting
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: them to pay for everything, but you're not returning the favor.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: It's kind of crazy to me. Clearly, y'all are not serious.
• 34:37
  Speaker 9: Che Yes, I would have gave.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Him some seed just because you slew you out and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: paid for some food. Just because he flew you out
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and paid you paid for some food.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: She's from the.
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: Bronx, I mean, the fool if he took her shopping
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: or whatever.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: My thing is, though, if you're allowing a man to
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: pay for your plane ticket, for your the residency, for
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: your food, from clothes, and all of that for getting
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: in return, Like, how do you not to expect something
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: and rehearch?
• 35:03
  Speaker 18: It might be my conversation, he's getting my company, Bobby's
• 35:06
  Speaker 18: giving the cheeks.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, But if the conversation was had prior that he's
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: not flying you out just for some company, then you know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: then there's a problem.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I respected, I respect it. I just don't think a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: man should have you know, that expectation And why do
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: all that? I'll just get you a prostitute from the city,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Like why are you flying in stuffdy?
• 35:25
  Speaker 9: Maybe she flying?
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Maybe he can't find somebody that's fly in, so got
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: to fly me.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: Where are you from, Bobby, I'm from Cali?
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: Okay, Well, Bobby, we're gonna hook you up with didn't go,
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: He's gonna fly you out all.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Bobby Jesus. It was just actually mad because of how
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: much money he spent. He didn't set a limit for himself.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I think at the end of the day, that's why
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: he's upset. He said.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: He felt like a g He said, over g what's
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the mother of the story? I just don't think you
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: should expect nothing from nobody, you know what I mean.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I think even if you fly that person out, you
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: should just fly that person out with the expect that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: y'all gonna have a good time whatever that good time entails.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: God bless, but just have a good time. Don't have
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: no expectation of what you think that good time is
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: going to because that good time might not be what
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: you want it to be.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: And that's ending with some cheeks because she may have
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: had a good time. That's right, he just didn't. Damn
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: all right. It's the Breakfast Club on BT, the Breakfast
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Club wanting everybody.
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: It's DJ MV Charlamagne to God. We are the Breakfast Club.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: We got some special guests in the buildings. Yes, indeed,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: some legends, some icons. Of course, we got the roots,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: black thought and quest Love Welcome everybody is black from
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: the roots. They've been up here before.
• 36:39
  Speaker 12: And we got another icon that's never been up here before,
• 36:42
  Speaker 12: the legendary icon LLL cool J.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Welcome Queen. It's first time, first time LL stand for
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: a living legend. At this point, I appreciate that absolutely, absolutely.
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: So let's first start with you know, why you guys
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: are here together, because people are like, well, why is
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: ll and the Roots together?
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: So you guys are going on the road on the tour. Yeah,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: So how did this saw it come about? Whose version?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Well, I may really ensure and ensure you know, the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Planet Center stars sort of aligned themselves and made it
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: possible for us to work together on this huge segment
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: that we did for the Grammys this year. And I
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: think you know from that the idea of us always
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: haven't wanted to, you know, work together in some way,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: just you know, it opened the collaborative path and it
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: was like, Yo, why don't we try to take this
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: show on the road.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: It was huge. What we did just in that one
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: fifteen minute segment was so huge for the culture.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, this being hip hop's fiftieth anniversary and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: you know, that whole that that whole deal. It made
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: sense to try and you know, do something celebratory in
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: that way. You know, from region to region.
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: Now, ladies love cool James, what got you into hip
• 37:51
  Speaker 12: hop and said, you know what I want to be
• 37:52
  Speaker 12: emc Where where did the love come from? As a
• 37:55
  Speaker 12: kid from Queens and say this is what I want
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: to do.
• 37:58
  Speaker 19: You know, when those first wave of tapes came aroun
• 38:00
  Speaker 19: like you know Cole Crush Brothers and Fantastic Romantic Five
• 38:04
  Speaker 19: and Foursome Seeds and Treacherous Three, you know, Grand Master,
• 38:08
  Speaker 19: Furious Five and all of those groups, when they were
• 38:10
  Speaker 19: just tapes running around, you know, Haarlem World tapes, and
• 38:14
  Speaker 19: then the songs came later.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: That was the first time that I heard young black
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: kids sounding powered.
• 38:19
  Speaker 19: It was the first time that I heard or could
• 38:21
  Speaker 19: envision us doing something great because before that, all the
• 38:25
  Speaker 19: images I had seen were us like handcuffed beet putting
• 38:28
  Speaker 19: a police car or some sort of charge or you know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 19: So that empowering feeling, you know, the braggadocio thing that
• 38:35
  Speaker 19: you know that we really focused on came not from
• 38:39
  Speaker 19: a place of looking down on high on people, but
• 38:41
  Speaker 19: more about I could be somebody, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:44
  Speaker 19: The world looks at me and like I'm invisible. My
• 38:47
  Speaker 19: friends up the block get killed and nobody says anything.
• 38:50
  Speaker 19: So when I'm bragging and I'm boasting, what I'm really
• 38:52
  Speaker 19: doing is saying, hey, look at me, I exist, you
• 38:54
  Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. So for me, that was a
• 38:57
  Speaker 19: real special thing and a spectaclic thing. And I'm eight,
• 39:00
  Speaker 19: I'm nine years old. I'm ten years old, and I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 19: being introduced to this thing and I just completely fell
• 39:04
  Speaker 19: in love with it. And then you know, eight nine,
• 39:06
  Speaker 19: I'm a fan of the wrap. My grandfather broughts me
• 39:09
  Speaker 19: some equipment. At eleven, I'm DJing. I'm messing around with that,
• 39:12
  Speaker 19: but I'm still rhyming, and I'm going back and forth.
• 39:14
  Speaker 19: And then you know, eventually one thing led to another
• 39:17
  Speaker 19: and here we are death Jam and the whole whole nine.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Do you consider yourself a founding father of hip hop?
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: You know, people always gonna say, you know, cool her.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: You know, grandma has to flash people like that. But
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: as far as hip hop as we know now, I
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: would say you and run DMC.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: So so I'm you know, I'm definitely generation one point five.
• 39:35
  Speaker 19: You know what I'm saying. You got to give Flash
• 39:37
  Speaker 19: and HERK and Force and all them grab what's the
• 39:40
  Speaker 19: theodore They're do. The thing that myself from Run DMC did.
• 39:44
  Speaker 19: What we did is we took it to the world.
• 39:46
  Speaker 19: We took it global, you know what I'm saying. We
• 39:48
  Speaker 19: took it from the city and took it around the world,
• 39:51
  Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. And that was the difference.
• 39:53
  Speaker 19: So they they brought it, they took it from from
• 39:56
  Speaker 19: the Bronx and Harlem out to the Five Boroughs and
• 39:59
  Speaker 19: you around the world somewhat, they didn't penetrate the market
• 40:02
  Speaker 19: quite as deeply. Then we took it and made it global.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And I think I think from from a Philadelphia standpoint too,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: you know, just from the outside looking then with that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: one point five generation with you and all this like
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Running d that was our first time.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Sort of seeing our own reflection exactly.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: It was like you know, like again, I was a
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: huge fan of all the other founding fathers, but they
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: didn't look like people from around my way, you know
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And when I saw a run jam
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Master j L, they looked like the corner boys, like
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that was outside and I saw myself in that.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: So you know that that's where a lot of the
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: inspiration for me to do what I do came from.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Not to mention you know Ella.
• 40:42
  Speaker 14: You know l was very modest, but LLE literally invented
• 40:47
  Speaker 14: what I call post miner and hip hop, like the
• 40:49
  Speaker 14: three minute rap song sixteen bar like before L even
• 40:54
  Speaker 14: run DMC's first out, Like it's like that's like eight minutes,
• 40:57
  Speaker 14: like seven verses, you know what I mean. Like LLL
• 41:00
  Speaker 14: literally invented the sixteen you know, maybe the twenty fourth
• 41:05
  Speaker 14: the course you know what I mean, Like, oh the
• 41:07
  Speaker 14: song that's courses on it. So I love rap, Yeah,
• 41:11
  Speaker 14: like literally emotions on right. Like he's he's pioneered for
• 41:16
  Speaker 14: like so many things that he never gets credit for.
• 41:19
  Speaker 14: He was like the first teen idol, the first Like
• 41:22
  Speaker 14: there's so many first with him that you just you
• 41:24
  Speaker 14: take it for granted. So I was gonna ask when
• 41:26
  Speaker 14: you you talked about deaf Jam, So let's talk about that.
• 41:29
  Speaker 14: When they when they came to you with a contract
• 41:31
  Speaker 14: to sign. Do you remember what your first contract looked
• 41:34
  Speaker 14: like and how much they gave you. Yeah, well, I
• 41:36
  Speaker 14: mean talk about that. You know, you got to remember
• 41:38
  Speaker 14: that deaf Jam was a production company.
• 41:40
  Speaker 19: There was no label, Okay, It's Yours by Tila Rock
• 41:44
  Speaker 19: was on Party Time street Wise label. It was Deaf
• 41:46
  Speaker 19: Cham Productions, which was Rick was the producer along with
• 41:50
  Speaker 19: Jazzy Jay, and it was more than a contract.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: They were actually forming a label.
• 41:54
  Speaker 19: Rick was having a problem, you know him, and he
• 41:57
  Speaker 19: was having problems getting his money from from the other
• 41:59
  Speaker 19: label he was with, so they wanted to start this
• 42:01
  Speaker 19: new thing. So you know that first contract at the
• 42:04
  Speaker 19: time we split the publishing, they gave me like fifty thousand.
• 42:08
  Speaker 19: But before that, actually, my first single I ever made,
• 42:11
  Speaker 19: I didn't have a contract. When I made I Need
• 42:12
  Speaker 19: a Beat, which was the very first song I ever made,
• 42:14
  Speaker 19: I had no contract. It was just like, yo, let's
• 42:16
  Speaker 19: just get it and we'll figure it out. You know
• 42:18
  Speaker 19: what I'm saying. Sometimes you gotta be willing to crawl
• 42:21
  Speaker 19: over the barbed wide fence with no shirt on, you
• 42:23
  Speaker 19: know what I'm saying, to get what you want.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: With no shirt on.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, By the end of this,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: I might have one hundreds I'm already. That was what
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: it was. And you know how old were you at
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: this point? Sixteen? I was sixteen when I mean yeah,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: when we started Death jam I was sixteen. Did you
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: ever feel like you should have had like equity and depth?
• 42:50
  Speaker 14: Jam?
• 42:50
  Speaker 19: I did have equity in death Jam. I did have
• 42:52
  Speaker 19: equity and death Jam. I just sold it a little early.
• 42:54
  Speaker 19: But I definitely had ownership in death jam ownership in Fuoble.
• 42:58
  Speaker 19: I have ownership and yea I asked Los Angeles ownership
• 43:01
  Speaker 19: and damn lip sync battle, I have you know, I
• 43:04
  Speaker 19: own my catalog.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: So the things that I do, you know, I did well,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: But I didn't do it for the money. And where
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: did you get the business mind from? Was was it
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: your mom's? Was it you know, an uncle?
• 43:14
  Speaker 14: Like?
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Where did you get that? Because I don't think a
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: lot of people were thinking ownership back then. They were
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: just thinking I need to blow up.
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: You know what?
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: You know what I've learned? Man? You know, like and
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: people may have heard me say this before.
• 43:23
  Speaker 19: You know, if a homeless man tell you not to
• 43:25
  Speaker 19: do push ups some traffic, you should listen because you
• 43:27
  Speaker 19: might get ran over.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: A lot of times people are like yo, another one yo.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: A lot of people are like yo, you homeless? What
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: do you know?
• 43:33
  Speaker 19: Like all right brown today in the news. Right, So
• 43:40
  Speaker 19: the business thing I learned from people before me and
• 43:42
  Speaker 19: after me. Now what the Monica ladies love cool j?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 43:45
  Speaker 12: Did you always feel like these dudes are gonna think
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: I'm sweet? So I'm gonna I have to have these
• 43:50
  Speaker 12: these rhyms in the corner just in case.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: The ladies love.
• 43:53
  Speaker 19: Cool Jay thing was just wishful thinking. Yeah, you know,
• 43:56
  Speaker 19: I'm fifteen on one girls ladies love cool Jack?
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: It was really manifest.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Not being true. It didn't have to be that like
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: people took that a little. It just kind of worked out.
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I have ill cool Jack.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I hope you know what I mean.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: But you never rebelled against the sex symbol image. I
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: saw no like it. I mean, look, I made I
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: need love because I like girls.
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: I made like rock the Bells because I like the
• 44:25
  Speaker 14: do the hard for me growing up, I like girls, right,
• 44:28
  Speaker 14: So putting I need love out me doing love songs
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: is the equivalent of me walking into projects with a
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: next full of jury.
• 44:35
  Speaker 19: It's the same thing. The strength isn't doing what you
• 44:38
  Speaker 19: want to do artistically. That's the way the strength is.
• 44:41
  Speaker 19: I do what I want to do artistically. I don't
• 44:43
  Speaker 19: do what they say I should do, because then I'm
• 44:46
  Speaker 19: not being me. I'm fronting I'm being somebody else, right,
• 44:49
  Speaker 19: So I think that you know, and I just say
• 44:51
  Speaker 19: just a lot of young men in general, never limit
• 44:55
  Speaker 19: yourself to the perception of what other people think you
• 44:58
  Speaker 19: should be.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Don't limit your to that be yourself, right. We got
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: more with L cool J in the Roots when we
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: come back, don't move.
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: It's the Breakfast Club the Morning Morning everybody is DJ
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: Envy Charlamagne, the god we are the Breakfast Club is
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: still kicking it with LL cool J in the Roots,
• 45:13
  Speaker 12: does that have a baldy with both of y'all that
• 45:16
  Speaker 12: you know, yell are so legendary and hip hop, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 12: people might not look at.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: You as a rapper. They might just look at you
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: as an actor, or people might not look at.
• 45:22
  Speaker 12: Y'all as the Roots as in a group, but just
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: the guys we're being for to night with people, the
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: younger generation especially.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: No, I think I think there's value in that we've
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: been able to reinvent ourselves in a way that our
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: brand has had, you know, different iterations, different complete just lives.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So the fact that yeah, we've been on you know
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: TV every day for the past fifteen years, it's a
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: whole demo. They only know us from that, so that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: leaves a whole new space for them to explore when
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: they discover our body at work. And then there's people
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: who've been die hard fans of you know, L and
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the Roots forever who may have lost track of our
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: musical contributions along the way.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: So I just appreciate the chance to sort of keep
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: reintroducing myself.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Me and Elle was just talking about how, you know,
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: you just pop out every now and then as an
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: artist to shut it down with those little, you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: not not so general reminders, you know what I'm saying,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: And you're good, and that's sort of how we navigate
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the space.
• 46:14
  Speaker 19: And you know, the way I look at it is
• 46:16
  Speaker 19: it's just an opportunity, you know what I'm saying. It's
• 46:19
  Speaker 19: a beautiful opportunity to put you up on something new.
• 46:21
  Speaker 19: And if you don't know, to come find out, come
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: to the show, you know what I'm saying. That's why
• 46:25
  Speaker 19: we're on tour. You can come see some music. It's
• 46:27
  Speaker 19: multi generational, you know, just like the festival multi generational.
• 46:30
  Speaker 19: So come out to the tour, come to the fourth tour,
• 46:33
  Speaker 19: see what we're doing. You know what I'm saying, Get
• 46:34
  Speaker 19: put onto something new It's that simple. You know what
• 46:37
  Speaker 19: I'm saying. If you don't know, come find out.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Is it true that Jimmy Fallon is paying the staff
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: out of pocket?
• 46:41
  Speaker 14: Why?
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Y'all straight? That's a question my check. Let me check
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: my account right now.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: That I got like nineteen other jobs.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: It's not like you know, no one knowing is getting paid.
• 46:54
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: After that, that's kind of a myth.
• 46:56
  Speaker 12: I was gonna ask, was there any at any point
• 46:59
  Speaker 12: of any of your lives lose love for hip hop?
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: Maybe it was the sound change, maybe it was wasn't
• 47:04
  Speaker 12: received the right way, or maybe it was I'm getting
• 47:06
  Speaker 12: money over here?
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Was there any time at that at all?
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: For me?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: No, because I'm getting money over here has nothing to
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: do with love and hip hop.
• 47:14
  Speaker 19: I don't make rap music and do hip hop culture
• 47:16
  Speaker 19: and rock the bells and all this to make money
• 47:19
  Speaker 19: to survive.
• 47:20
  Speaker 14: Well, I will say that, you know, there's times if
• 47:22
  Speaker 14: you're creative and your passion turns into your livelihood, that
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: sometimes you might have to leave it for a second.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, there definitely been moments where.
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: Like you know, like he and I put since ninety three,
• 47:34
  Speaker 14: probably somewhere between one hundred and fifty to two hundred
• 47:38
  Speaker 14: shows a year, you know what I mean from ninety
• 47:41
  Speaker 14: three up until like when we start FOU in two
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: thousand and nine. Like our lives was on a tour
• 47:45
  Speaker 14: bus and you know, the grass is always green on
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: the other side. And so during the tonight show allowed
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: us especially to see what other magical powers we had,
• 47:56
  Speaker 14: like I didn't know, like, oh, I can write books.
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: And both of us are professors at NYU. You know,
• 48:03
  Speaker 14: he wrote a play, I did a movie and all
• 48:05
  Speaker 14: those other things. So small team man, not more than sports,
• 48:10
  Speaker 14: just curious, like we're I think all of us are
• 48:12
  Speaker 14: creatives and that's that's the thing, Like we're creatives that
• 48:16
  Speaker 14: are discovering that sometimes our talent is transferable to.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Other mediums in avenue like Tarik, he's a better cook.
• 48:25
  Speaker 14: That's I'll put him against any three micheline star chef
• 48:28
  Speaker 14: or black grandmother.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: About now for real, Like he's the king Gordon Ramsey,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: you wanted to smoke. Now he's getting up before m
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I think I catered. I catered for the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Boost other night. Yeah, I brought a bunch of grubs
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: to the up to rock the bell. So I mean
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: you're going to tell him what I brought, you.
• 48:50
  Speaker 14: Know what I'm saying, Yes, everything from crab Legs to
• 48:54
  Speaker 14: lobster to kylein greens to like his cookie.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: But that's what I'm saying, like his creativity. Check all
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: the box you left.
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the chillers, Oh, I love the chillers on the grill.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: A moment in your careers where y'all questioning things though.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, definitely there have been many moments, uh,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know where I've questioned you know, myself and where
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: we've questioned ourselves, you know, I mean as a collective,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and you know, in those moments of pause, that's when
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: you're able to answer the call.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: And I think, you know, you just get those versts
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: of of clarity.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: And it's been a blessing that we've been able to
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: reinvent ourselves, you know, because yeah, you know, I just
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: like I was saying, I would be making music. I
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: would be writing songs and you know, creating art, whether
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I was able to you know, support myself and my
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: family off it or not. So it's it's a blessing,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: like you know, I mean, the plus is that I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: also able to make a career out of it, you know,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But yeah, there have been times that
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: I've questioned, you know, like what the next chapter will
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: look like or what the next you know, sort of
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: act like three of my career, you know, am I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: gonna be able to swing another? You know, reinvent is
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: those moments when you sort of listen to the universe
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: and you go with your heart and things become more clear.
• 50:06
  Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, listen, man, There's always gonna be a
• 50:08
  Speaker 19: time in life where you have doubts and you have concerns,
• 50:11
  Speaker 19: and you have insecurities, and you feel like uncomfortable or
• 50:14
  Speaker 19: discomfort about certain things. But like Tarik said, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 19: answering that call and following your intuition, following that small
• 50:21
  Speaker 19: voice inside of.
• 50:22
  Speaker 10: You and go for it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 19: You know, you can't be fearful in life. You can't
• 50:27
  Speaker 19: be scary, and you the person that has to be
• 50:29
  Speaker 19: able to you have to be able to trust the
• 50:31
  Speaker 19: most is yourself. And you have to be able to
• 50:33
  Speaker 19: trust yourself in moments when you are susceptible to fear
• 50:38
  Speaker 19: and weakness and you just have to find that strength
• 50:40
  Speaker 19: and keep moving through.
• 50:41
  Speaker 12: You have times have been challenged and you throw shots,
• 50:44
  Speaker 12: whether it's mo d back in the day cannabus or
• 50:47
  Speaker 12: people even say, oh, have you ever ran into the
• 50:49
  Speaker 12: people that you've ever had a lyrical sparring? And is
• 50:52
  Speaker 12: it all jokes and fun now or is it still
• 50:54
  Speaker 12: like standoffish?
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: No, ain't no standoffish man, that's the spot. Okay, there's
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: no time. I mean some dudes. Look, everybody is different, man,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: some people, you know, it really bothers them, like you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: some people as like post Jack the Ripper, right or
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: post how you like me?
• 51:12
  Speaker 14: Now? Like were you and mod ever in the room
• 51:16
  Speaker 14: together at any of that those periods like I walked
• 51:19
  Speaker 14: out on stage of this concert before like I'm crazy,
• 51:21
  Speaker 14: Wait what there was no there was no social media.
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: Man, yeah we see each other.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: We laugh.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: When you walked out with nothing, that's ridiculous.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: Kind of pioneered the rap, yes, well.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, but then with cannabis, you know what
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, have y'all left y'all focus? Brought them out
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: at Barclays when I perform. Remember that's right, you know
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. You know, I see you and I
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: see pictures.
• 51:49
  Speaker 14: I mean, yeah, we got the you know we're doing
• 51:51
  Speaker 14: We've got things we're doing now together You know what
• 51:53
  Speaker 14: about you and what was what was you in whole?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: But I never understood that one either. That felt like
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: just ego. I really, I honestly couldn't tell you, bro,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. All I know is it's all love.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, it's we
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: gucci like for real, like you know, you know, listen, man,
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: does a conversation make things great or just over time?
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: It just you realize it wasn't really about nothing.
• 52:12
  Speaker 12: They said you at the time that you didn't like
• 52:13
  Speaker 12: him as president or death ya, and that's where they
• 52:15
  Speaker 12: said it came from.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Dude. Next question, is it a question? Y'all in the
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: old street stuff and the stuff like yeah, next question,
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I tell you like this.
• 52:34
  Speaker 19: I tell you like this man. You know, at the
• 52:36
  Speaker 19: end of the day, I got love for everybody. You
• 52:39
  Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. I just want to do great things.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 52:41
  Speaker 19: As a matter of fact, I think there's a part
• 52:44
  Speaker 19: in the show where I actually get into this stuff
• 52:45
  Speaker 19: a little bit with a freestyle. So you know, people
• 52:49
  Speaker 19: should just come to the show and check it out
• 52:50
  Speaker 19: and hear how I address it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I will keep a lock. We got more with LL
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: and the Roots. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: EJ n V.
• 52:58
  Speaker 12: CHARLAMAGNEA God, we are the Breakfast This club was still
• 53:00
  Speaker 12: kicking it with ll cool J in the Roots.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Che How do y'all feel about lists? Because Billboard had
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: y'all ranked number ten group of all time?
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Really yeah, Lla As.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: You ranked number fourteen of the top rappers ever and
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you coined the term goat. But for some reason your
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: name doesn't always get put in those goat conversations?
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: How did that?
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: Because he's too good? People can never look at it? Well,
• 53:24
  Speaker 14: you know, you know, I guess I just got to
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: do something about it. You know, I guess that just
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: means I got some work to do, you know what
• 53:29
  Speaker 14: I mean. I guess that's what it means.
• 53:31
  Speaker 19: I mean, I could sit here and come up with
• 53:33
  Speaker 19: a thousand different excuses, but at the end of the day,
• 53:35
  Speaker 19: I guess my job is to change that narrative.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, to be continued for me, man Like, I'm
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: not you know, I'm fine.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Like Whoever, when I do fall like on those lists,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it's always, you know, just an honor to be held
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: in the company that I'm held in.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: It's never any other artists on those lists that I
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: don't feel, you know, deserve it, but you know where
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: you rank. I think that you know it's relative and
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: think that you know it varies from person in person,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: different folks opinions.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I'm I'm a force to be reckoned with.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I know everybody know that I'm fine with it, you know. Yeah.
• 54:10
  Speaker 19: And you know the other thing I would add is
• 54:12
  Speaker 19: that I think this is an overused term, but in
• 54:14
  Speaker 19: my cases, I'm different.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Fact, I really am.
• 54:19
  Speaker 19: So it's like if they don't understand, like how much
• 54:22
  Speaker 19: I changed the world, if you wasn't there, you just
• 54:24
  Speaker 19: don't understand that. Like you have to remember that just
• 54:27
  Speaker 19: with death Jam alone. Name the artists that will signed
• 54:29
  Speaker 19: the Death Jam over time.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Name five. So let's stop right there. Right.
• 54:43
  Speaker 19: So I'm the first artist on Death Jam. It was
• 54:45
  Speaker 19: a production company, Tela Rock. I'm the first artist. I
• 54:48
  Speaker 19: put the label on my back and I got us
• 54:50
  Speaker 19: the distribution deal.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: With my album.
• 54:52
  Speaker 19: What are we talking about? What are we really talking
• 54:56
  Speaker 19: about it? Like, so that's putting the work into be
• 55:00
  Speaker 19: a pillar.
• 55:01
  Speaker 12: I gotta ask Mount rushmore of hip hop to y'all,
• 55:03
  Speaker 12: who would be the four faces on that?
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Not even personally. You can't be personal, And we're.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Telling me some of those people that put his self
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: on I mean you, I'm just saying, like your personal favorites.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Like in the future when we're not here and somebody's
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: looking like, who are those people?
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: They call me big man? All right. So my as
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: as as a.
• 55:24
  Speaker 14: Music lover, DJ and a producer, my mount Rushmore of
• 55:29
  Speaker 14: albums would probably be Nation of Millions, three ft I
• 55:34
  Speaker 14: and Rising, and then the thirty six and probably lastly
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: I might say Midnight Marauders. Like those four records sort
• 55:45
  Speaker 14: of informed me to go deep into the culture and
• 55:47
  Speaker 14: actually to get my own career.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: So look, man, I just keep it. Keep it simple.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: To me.
• 55:53
  Speaker 19: When you talk about like a real rush More and
• 55:55
  Speaker 19: you talk about the shaping of the culture, you have.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: To look at its first principles.
• 56:00
  Speaker 19: You know, it's like anything else, you break it down
• 56:02
  Speaker 19: the first principles, right, you know, you gotta put DJ
• 56:05
  Speaker 19: cool Hirk.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: He ain't on Rushmore. I just he just started it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 19: No big deal, no big deal, this is something I did, Okay,
• 56:13
  Speaker 19: And then you have to put run DMC up up there.
• 56:16
  Speaker 19: Because they kicked down the doors and the walls and
• 56:19
  Speaker 19: you know, put me on their back to a certain
• 56:21
  Speaker 19: stand as well. And I was the solo guy who
• 56:23
  Speaker 19: went out there got shot out of that cannon. And
• 56:26
  Speaker 19: then you have to put Flash and Mel Flash because.
• 56:29
  Speaker 14: He made us dream of the culture, the DJ, the
• 56:33
  Speaker 14: art of the DJ, the idea that a DJ could
• 56:36
  Speaker 14: affect culture and move culture.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: Flash made us do that.
• 56:39
  Speaker 19: And then you gotta say Mel because he was the
• 56:41
  Speaker 19: first original prolific writer. Like those are the core, you
• 56:45
  Speaker 19: know what I'm saying. You have a couple of others,
• 56:46
  Speaker 19: but like that core right there is the real core.
• 56:49
  Speaker 19: Anything after that fan based this. You know, it's based
• 56:52
  Speaker 19: on oh he made money or oh he had a
• 56:54
  Speaker 19: lot of platinum albums. Oh he got people to change
• 56:57
  Speaker 19: their shirts. Oh yo that he got you know, all
• 57:00
  Speaker 19: of that is cool. But DJ Cool, Hirk, Run, DMC, Grandmaster,
• 57:04
  Speaker 19: Flash and Mail. You removed that and like what you
• 57:08
  Speaker 19: got for me?
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I think it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Boils down to, uh, just who had the most impact,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: you know, upon my craft. So I'll give props to
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the the L's and you know the BC
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Boys and the Chuck D's and even running them even
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: though they weren't depth jam artists, but that whole first
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: wave of depth jam artists were the first people that
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I heard had that rush roster. They had that powerful
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: cadence that was just different from with Mel and Curtis
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Blow and everybody was doing.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, run DMC. You know what
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: They came out like balls go in on El cool
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: than Chuck d you know what I mean.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: Yelling.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: There was the yelling, so it was you know, that
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: was like wow, like they had arrived. They you know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: changed the way I wrote. You know what I'm saying.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: After I was exposed to that, did you.
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Ever write for you eborate on that You can still
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: tap his je right for me? You can still tap
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: to Joe l.
• 58:00
  Speaker 16: No no, no, no no.
• 58:03
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: We never did any music together. I saw this on
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: the internet. Somebody said around that time Cube was helping you.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: You know what, people have this. You know, you know
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: people they got a lot of stories, bro, They come
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: up with a lot of stories, you know what I mean.
• 58:14
  Speaker 14: Hey, Hey, hey, Michael Jordan, did uh somebody ever bounced
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: the ball for you and shoot your jump shot for you?
• 58:21
  Speaker 14: Like no, I shot the jump shot listen.
• 58:23
  Speaker 19: I'm not above collaborating on a chorus or working on
• 58:26
  Speaker 19: something like I'm not I'm not piggy like that. If
• 58:28
  Speaker 19: I was writing the rhyme and somebody said, YO said
• 58:30
  Speaker 19: a word, I'd be like, all right, I like that word.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: I'm cool with that. But you know, I write my songs.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I have to because it
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: has to come from me.
• 58:37
  Speaker 19: And if you collaborate too much on the at least
• 58:40
  Speaker 19: from LL COOLJ fans, if I collaborated too much with
• 58:43
  Speaker 19: somebody on writing, it would affect what they're listening to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 19: It wouldn't sound like me, you know what I mean,
• 58:49
  Speaker 19: because they are very unique things to ll cool J.
• 58:52
  Speaker 19: So I'll give you I'll give you an example. So
• 58:54
  Speaker 19: I tried to do a more collaborative writing album. I
• 58:57
  Speaker 19: did a whole album with fifty cent and we were
• 59:00
  Speaker 19: writing together on this album, and when it was done,
• 59:03
  Speaker 19: I listened to it, I'm like, it sounds good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: I like the music, the rhymes, it sounds cool, but
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: it ain't me. So I didn't put it out.
• 59:10
  Speaker 19: It wasn't nothing against fifty I love fifty I just
• 59:13
  Speaker 19: wanted to try something different. Maybe we collaborate right together.
• 59:16
  Speaker 19: It didn't work. I think you think Paradise was the song, No, no, no, No.
• 59:19
  Speaker 19: Paradise is totally different. Fifty wrote the chorus on Paradise
• 59:22
  Speaker 19: for a Marie what she sung. He didn't write my rhymes,
• 59:26
  Speaker 19: you know what I mean? Like people get that a little,
• 59:28
  Speaker 19: you know what I'm saying. That being said, when that happened,
• 59:31
  Speaker 19: I didn't even know fifty was involved. That was the
• 59:33
  Speaker 19: track masters. They got that done right and they played
• 59:37
  Speaker 19: with the chorus.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: I liked it, etc.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: You know, we tried to work together and that's my man.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 59:42
  Speaker 19: We real cool, But the collaborative thing when it comes
• 59:45
  Speaker 19: to my verses, that doesn't work for me.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: And you know, I'm kind of like, it's funny when
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: you do this a long time.
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: The longer you do this, the more people does he
• 59:53
  Speaker 14: still got it? Can he still do it? Is he
• 59:55
  Speaker 14: gonna be able to do it? It kind of reminds
• 59:57
  Speaker 14: me of the Crawfit fight the other night. A lot
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 14: of people who like were really like nervous for Crawfit, right, Yeah,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 14: it was a lot of people that were nervous for
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 14: Crawfit when he was walking in the ring and he
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: showed what it is. And I think with me, for
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 14: whatever reason, people are never quite sure if how it's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 14: gonna be. But do you like being underestimated? I love it,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 14: I actually love it. I'm good with that. I'm good
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: with that because that, you know, that only makes the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 14: JAB that much stiffer.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: You we appreciate. Make sure you get the tickets for
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: the tour. How can they get tickets if they need
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: to go to I mean, just go to ticketmaster dot
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: com and check it out.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 19: The fourth tour. I love Cool Jay and the Roots
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 19: and oh one other thing. I want to tell you,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 19: this show is not like the music stops. Then another
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 19: artist comes on and the music starts, and another.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 13: Out of.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 14: Yeah, don't show up. This is one long what is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 14: it two three hours? Yes, it's one long mixtape. It's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 14: a MIXTAPEAMS and that's how fortune day. So get there,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 14: you know, get there on time and be trying to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 14: make a grand interest in hurting and all that.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Just get in on time. Let's have some fun. Hedge Sprung.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: The first song that comes, they called me Big.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 13: Cool.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning this time for Donkey
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: O the day Donkey.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 11: I'm a Democrat, so being junky of the day is
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 11: a little bit of a mixed question.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: So like a dope donk the other day, the club bitch.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Now, I've been called a lot of my twenty three years,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: But donkey of the day is a new white. Yes,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: donkey to Dave goes to thirty seven year old John
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Garza and forty three year old Arlely Nemo of Virginia.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Suit everybody in Virginia.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Now, these two convicts have been in custody in Newport
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: News for months, facing a bunch of charges, including, but
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: not limited to, contempt of court, probation violations, failure to appear,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: credit card fraud, forgery, possession of burglary tools, grand larceny.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I mean they just both career criminals, or should I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: say they made being criminal their career, Okay, because life
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: is about choices, and they chose a life of crime.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: It is what it is, and I must admit they
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: seem to be pretty good at it. Okay, never mind
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: the fact that they're in jail. Okay, everyone gets caught
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: at some point in time.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: That's just the way it is.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: But what kind of run do you have when you're
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: out all right, Garza and Nemo in regards to crime,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: especially like petty crime.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: It seems like they're up there with Jordan and pippin Baby.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about Lebron, James and d Wade
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: like they are the splash Brothers of criminology and their
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: latest crime, their latest crime takes the cake or should
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I say pancake?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about, Uncle Charlotte.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: I know they've never been specific about what kind of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: cake people be taken, but I'm pretty sure it's a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: cake from a bakery, not a pancake.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: Never mind all that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, you want to know what I'm talking about, Let's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: go to WTKR CBS News three for the report.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 20: In what may seem like a movie plot, the Newport
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 20: News Sheriff's Office says two inmates tunneled this hole in
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 20: a cell wall to escape from the Newborn News jail
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 20: NX Monday evening. The Sheriff's office says Arly Nemo and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 20: John Garza were able to exploit a construction design weakness
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 20: in the building and used a toothbrush and metal object
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 20: to make the hole. Once outside, they scaled a security
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 20: wall and got out the jail ANX is a minimum
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 20: security facility, and the two were discovered to be missing
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 20: during a routine headcount, but it was a tip from
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 20: the public that led police to the ihop on Mercury
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 20: Boulevard and Hampton, where the two were apparently eating at
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 20: about three am this morning. Hampton Police say the two
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 20: were taken into custody without incident. Garza had been in
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 20: custody since December on several charges, including probation violations. Nemo
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 20: had been in custody since last October on charges including
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 20: credit card fraud.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Ladies and gettlemen. These men a career criminals.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Uh, this is a crime, Okay, But I don't know
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: if that news report said it or not, because I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't paying all the way that much attention. But these
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: guys escaped jail with a toothbrush. A toothbrush, and guess
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: where they went after they got out of prison? Envy
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: I heard, Oh they said it, Dad, they did?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Oh. I blinked out. Something's wrong my brain lately.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: But yes, I want to say that even though these
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: men are career criminals and this is a crime, you
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: have to admit escaping jail with a toothbrush just to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: go get some ihop legendary, drop on a clues bomb
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: for those legends. I mean, come on, man, you went
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: from that, You went from the International House of Prison
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: to the International House of Pancakes.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, you gotta let a legend be a legend.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Baby, I can both acknowledge that this is Donkey of
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: the day worthy and legendary at the same time.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: These men exploited a construction design weakness.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: With primitive made tools made from a toothbrush and a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: metal object, put a hole in the wall, scaled, went
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: through the wall, then scaled over another security wall just
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: to get some of the those world famous buttermilk pancakes. Man,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: drop on a clues bomb for them, and I hope
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: they had a full stack. Okay, eleven twenty nine before attacks,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: six hundred and ninety calories.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Alright, I'm gonna be honest with you.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: They deserve it all big steak omelet for those two
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: all right, sixteen thirty nine before attacks, one thousand and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: forty calories. Give it to them, all right, Send a
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: stack pancakes twelve fifty nine before tax, eight hundred and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: seventy calories.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: Give it to them.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Now, do I think it's extremely stupid that they escape
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: jail just to go to I hop yes, But if
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: you're already facing.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: A bunch of charges and you're going to prison for.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: The next decade or the next couple of decades, and
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: you really don't have no place to go, if you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: actually escape, you just want to get up, get out,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: and get some fresh air.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Yolo? Okay, yolo, you only
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: live once? All right?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: In this case, I hop International House of Pancakes. Please
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: give John Garza and Arlenimo of Newport News, Virginia the
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: sweet sounds of the Hamiltons.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Oh no, you are of the day, well the dog
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: gee all the day. Yee. I respect it. Let's let's
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: play a game. You want to play a game, I do. Okay, well,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: let's play a game of yess.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: All right, we got thirty seven year old John Garza
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: and forty three old Ary Nemo of Newport News, Virginia.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: They both escaped prison just to go get some eye
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: hop dj n V. Yess what raison? I'm gonna say, White?
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: What makes you think they would honestly? Mm hmmm. I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: think I hope you're being honest. I think black people
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: would have went to waffle House. You're crazy. You're crazy,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: and you're disrespectful. In the South, don't but the ie Hop.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: Don't act like I hop, ain't ain't I hop? Ma,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: if you got a choice, you go to waffle house,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: you ain't gonna go.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Actually, actually, what if I had a choice, I'm going
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: to I Hop me too. But in the South, we
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: go to waffle house.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: When you're in the.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: South, you do waffle House. I'm South Carolina born and raised.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to IE Hop. Okay. I can think of
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: plenty of knights in Columbia, South Carolina when I went
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: to IE Hop over everything else.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 12: I know, and I know the I Hop or Mercury Boulevard,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 12: they usually open twenty four to seven. You know, I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 12: went to school in Hampton, Virginia, so I know that
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 12: I hop. But when I'm in the South, I got
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 12: I Hop in New York, I'd rather go to waffle
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 12: house and get my chicken and waffles.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: I know black people they going to what are they
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: white or black? They're Caucasians, see it, I know it. Okay.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think ie hoping waffle House is a black
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: or white thing, because I'm I'm telling you plenty of
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Knights in Columbia, South Carolina. I took my ass to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: ie Hop on Assembly Street, slutha everybody that's working on
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: working in ie Hop on in Columbia, South Carolina on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Assembly Street. Take thirty one Assembly Street. Baby, my goodness,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: actually putting handcuffs in there one night. But and I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: have on a symbolist street back in the day.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 12: Though, I do want to know what's wrong with the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 12: Virginia jails, the fact that you can get your way
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 12: out with a toothbrush.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: Like they said it was a construction design weakness, and
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: they say they don't want to speak too much on
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: it because of security security concerns.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: If you can use a you got out with a toothbrush.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess they don't want to give too
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: much away because then it'll give other prisoners ideas. But
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, if you if you can escape
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: with a primitive made too, you know, made from a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: toothbrush in the metal logic, man, Jesus man, I'm gonna
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: be honest with you. When you do stuff like that,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: you kind of deserve to be free. I guess would
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: be almost like a game. If you can get out,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: you deserve to be out Jesus Christ.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, well thank you for that donkey today. Yes,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: indeed the Breakfast Club.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 12: On everybody is DJ Envy CHARLAMAGNEA god. We are the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 12: Breakfast Club special guest in the building. A legend when
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 12: it comes to this hip hop thing. Ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 12: fab five Freddy, welcome.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: Brother, okay man, pleasure to be here.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Man, what's happening. Let's have pleasure to have you brother man.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: Thanks so much.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: And you know, we just celebrated fifty years of hip
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: hop incredible. Did you ever think that hip hop would
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: take it this far?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 17: Her?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: To quote the lady, I know, I loved that call.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: Not not at all, not at all. I mean, I
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 6: mean I was clearly thinking of, like, you know, in
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: terms of the moves I made, having some control over
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: the narrative, you know, being that being aware that people
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: that look like us in previous generations of our culture
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: didn't have that ability to host the shows that you know,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: you know, the footprint that you guys have and the
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: things that others like us in media and do these things.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: So that was like a super significant thing that I
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: thought about from beginning. But to see it come to
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: this point globally the most listened to form of music
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 6: around the world. Still, it's just astonishing.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 12: Let's let's go back for people that don't know who
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 12: Fab five Freddy is. So let's let's start from the beginning.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: How you got into this thing called hip hop and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 12: what you created Because you started off as a graffiti artist,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 12: right and I'm sure you were tagging trains back in
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 12: the day because that was the thing to do, the trains.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: That was the thing to do, the trains, the walls,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: the buses, right anywhere. It was an audacious thing to do.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: When I think back, so many New York teenagers back
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: then in the seventies just felt like it was okay
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: to put your name anywhere you felt it needed to be.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: And then the competition of that developed into a real,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: you know, refined and defined form of expression. Ways of
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: using them spray cans that nobody ever envision anywhere, Like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: you know, spray cans is just just you know, the
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: pain and an old piece or whatever right around the house.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 6: Now we've created, you know, a way to make murals
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: that kind of tell stories about who we are and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: where we are and what we want to be and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: do and all those things. It was like a fantasy.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: And then that began a journey that I kind of
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: helped lead take graffiti art into galleries, turning it into
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: something called street art, which is also like a global thing.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: You know, probably heard of my homie rest in Peace
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: Jean Michel Boskio young brother out of Brooklyn, and we
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: met on that downtown scene. Had similar aspirations figure out
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: a way to be artists, like Malcolm X said, by
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: any means necessarily, yeah, he used to. Jean was tagging,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: but he was putting up these like poetic phrases, quotes
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: that were not in any way like typical graffiti, but
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: it was a part of graffiti and nobody knew he
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: was a young brother doing it. Initially he started out
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: doing something called same O, which was sort of short
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: for same o, you know what I mean. And then
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: that developed and then we met and he was on
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: the scene. He turned out to be a brother, like
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: he was doing stuff around Soho in the village area.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: People didn't know he was a brother, and we met
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: at a party writer as I'm kind of stepping on
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: that downtown art scene, and we both had similar aspirations
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: to try to figure this out, so we began the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: you know, we kind of linked up and we're in
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: the same circuit. Blondie was somebody that we met pretty
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 6: much at the same time. I'm in their ear about
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: this new culture, and then they kind of took us
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: under their wings, so to speak, and brought out work
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: some of the first people to buy paintings for myself
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: and Jean Michelle and then made you know, took some
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: inspiration from them stories I told them and made a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: record called Rapture.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Altho we got to stay here for me.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: Rapture was the first video on MTV that was one
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: of the MTV's first videos which I'm featured if I,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: along with Jean Michelle, I tried to get Flash was
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: supposed to have come to be the DJ i'd met
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: because you know, it was working on the first hip
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: hop movie while Style in that same time frame, early eighties.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: I said, Flash, come down and be in this video.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: You know, to think that there was no MTV at
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: that time, so we did. Music video was not a thing,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 6: but still I'm like, they had this idea to create
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: a music video. All the people we hung out with
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: were in the video. Flash never showed up, so I said,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: John stand at the turntables, and I try to tell
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: Majean just stood there with a grin on his face.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: So in the raption, so as Debbie starts to rap
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: and the first line is fab five, Freddy told me,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: everybody's fly. She's saying it to Jean and then she
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: you know, the song goes on. So that turned out
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: to be one of MTV's first videos when the channel launched,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: and close to ten years later, they would they were
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: kind of pressured into trying to, you know, to do
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: a show about rap music. And I got the call
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: MTV raps what MTV was trying to do. It's interesting
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: that you you guys are now, you know, have this
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 6: big position doing radio.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: The guys like you absolutely guys.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, the thing was radio was pretty segregated,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: and in the American charts, I mean, England was different.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: That's why I referenced America pop pretty much meant white essentially,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: So no matter what kind of record you made, if
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: you could, you know, make a record that was popping
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: all the descriptive ways, the people doing that were black,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: they would most often off end up on the R
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: and B or the soul chart or the dance chart,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: and so MTV was set up to try to mirror
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: that a visual form of of what American radio stations were.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: And so when black acts got big, they were like,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 6: why am I not getting any love on there? And so,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: with the exception of a little line of Richie, a
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 6: little Prince, there was very little black music to be seen.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: And then I think it was Michael Jackson's label, Columbia's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: CBS if I'm not mistaken, Epic, whichever one of those
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: really pressured them and they said, listen, we're going to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: pull all out other acts, which included Bruce Springsteen off
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: of MTV if you don't play Michael Jackson. I think
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: that specifically was Billy Jean, and then they played it.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: The numbers went through the roof and then came Thriller
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: and everything like that, so that really they had to
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: realize that this time to change up that attitude. And
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: then there were two young white guys at MTV, Peter
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: Doughty and then Ted de me rest in Peace. Peter
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: I had known on the downtown scene. He knew things
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: I was moves I was making with Blondie and the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 6: hip hop's first film, Wild Style, and so he was
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: in their ear, like records were selling like crazy, run
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: dmc ll, some of those first early hip hop records
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: were going crazy, no marketing, no promo, and so they said, Okay,
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: we're going to try it, try this out. And they
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: tried it and it.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: Wasn't You wasn't upset with leaving or you wanted to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: leave or was it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: Well when it ended about six or seven years in
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: which was incredible run, it was kind of sad that
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: it came to an end. But I realized, like you know,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: those acts that debuted on your MTV raps were so pivotal,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 6: they were so defining of the culture. Like the first
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: time people saw you know, Tupac Nwa, you know, Luke
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: and them. I would go to these areas where they were.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: You invented that. Everybody that's doing these shows now where
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: they go to, where people are.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: That's absolutely fab far Freddy, fab far Freddy invented on
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: location conversation. And I know you said you didn't see
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: hip hop going as far, but as far as hip
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: hop becoming mainstream, you played a big role in that.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Like when I think of the movie Wild Style, like
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: what did that movie mean to you and hip hop
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: at that time.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the idea that I had had for Wild Style
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 6: was to show a way to show the connection between
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: all these elements that are part of hip hop now
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: that didn't exist before. So the idea was to make
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: a film that showed the connection between this rapping, this djang,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: the breakdancing, and the visual form of expression. Graffidi and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 6: I hooked up with this cat, Charlie Ahearn, who was
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: an underground filmmaker on the downtown scene in New York.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: He had made a super low budget movie about kung
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: Fu that had caught my eye. When I linked with him,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: I basically pitched this idea for the movie and he said, essentially,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: let's get busy. So then we started researching going to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: parties in the Bronx, going to the T Connection, the
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 6: Ecstasy Garage, meeting Busy, Cold Crush, Fantastic Funky four plus
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: one more including shot Rock, and that was how to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: jump back to the blondie thing. When they got the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: opportunity to host Saturday Night Saturday Night Live, they also
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: got to pick who the support act was and they
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: wanted to bring somebody hip hop on, so we talked
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: about flashing the Furious five. Of course they were big.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: But then I said, you know, the Funky four, similar
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: to Blondie, has a female like out front, and I
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 6: thought it was a nice counterbalance.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 12: All right, we got more with Fab five Freddy when
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 12: we come back, don't move. It's the breakfast Club, Good morning.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: Owning Everybody's dej.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 12: Envy Charlamage, the god we are. The Breakfast Club was
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 12: too kicking it with Fab five Freddy Charlamage.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: I keep hearing you talk about you wanted to make
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: sure hip hop was presented in the right way, right,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: So I wonder, like, what are your thoughts on the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: genre of hip hop now?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, hip hop has continually amazed me with
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: the different turns and the evolutions that have happened within it.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 6: That's been the most fascinating thing for me. Some of
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: the things that I've hoped for have come to light.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 6: Like I remember the very early days when it was
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: all pretty much throw your hands in the air waving
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: like you just don't care. Everybody say, oh, it's pretty
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 6: much a party, uplifting kind of vibe, and that was cool.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: But then I said, man, if somebody can figure out
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: a way to say something that was socially relevant. I
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: knew that would elevate us, and that was the message
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: broken Glass everywhere, you know, don't push me because I'm
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: close to the edge. Really articulated how a lot of
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: people were living in New York and other hoods, and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: everybody got the memo that we can now throw our
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 6: hands in the air and have a party, but we
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 6: can talk about our realities in these streets. And that
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 6: was exciting. So there's been things that have happened along
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: the way that I've been really enthusiastic about. Obviously, when
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: the conscious movement came in me working with KRS one
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: in the beginning, then Chuck D and everything that opened
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: up a whole another chamber that was incredible. Didn't see
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: it coming, but it was definitely needed. And I think
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: hip hop is gonna fit. It constantly figures out a way.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: It's like a living organism and different things affected come in.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: It may go off the track a little bit with
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: certain things, and then they'll come back with something that
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: totally blows us away. Like I think the African even
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: though it's not specifically hip hop, it's very inspired by
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: the things that we've done. So the afrobeats and the
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: Ama piano, which is a sound coming out of South Africa,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: a young kind of dance type sound which is unique,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: is incredible as well as well as what the cats
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: in England have figured out on the grime side, you
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: know storm Z and those cats that were constantly early
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: in the early days of what they were doing, they
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: were constantly trying to emulate rap groups from over here.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: I went to England and covered them during the Your
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: TV Raps era. I remember London Posse was one of
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: the hottest groups at the time that had a New
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: York East Coast kind of wrap flow. But they never
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: really blew up as big as they wanted to in England.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: But then they figured out how to do it their
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: own way, with their own slang and their own way
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: way of speaking, and they made some dope records and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: blew ups.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I thought about that with y'all, like what
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: was the future for vj's back then, Like, did y'all
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: even know what the future looked like?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Like? What did y'all aspire to be after the VJ thing? Well?
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: Good question. Thankfully for me, I was doing something prior.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: I was already making moves, you know, making art, you know,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: making films like Wild Style and the VJ thing just
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 6: came to me really honestly, which was great. People would
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: run up to me, I want to do this, How
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: do you do it? I was like, man, I'd be
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: awkward because I'm like, I can't tell you how to
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: do There's no go to go to VJ school do this.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: It was just a moment. Clearly MTV is a different
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: you know, all that stuff like doesn't exist. People can
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 6: do millions of people do that on YouTube, you know,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: if you will. So there wasn't really a clear path
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: if you will, but if you like you say, like
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: I think interestingly lover going to radio along with Doctor
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: Dre initially and being really good at it was a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: great transition. There were some people that had worked that
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: radio behind the scenes and whatever that then came to MTV.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 6: Stephen Hill had been a radio person that then transitioned
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 6: to become one of the producers at MTV. But yeah,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 6: that's a good one man. It wasn't too many clear
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: paths other than radio or some type of TV announcing
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: maybe commercials or whatever. But for me, like, I wanted
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: to just get back to doing the things that I'm doing.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: I'm like an obsessive creative and so that's it, you know,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: it's just creating, and that's still what I primarily do.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: You do you remember that day you shot with NWA,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: when you went out there.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, and it became
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: a lot of people's favorite show. I remember vividly. We
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: have been playing videos by Easy on the channel and
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 6: Ted Demi and he would talk to Easy often and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: Easy was like, mant you all to come out. We
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: have a new group. And I remember them sending us
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 6: a memo the day before us to listen, nobody don't
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: wear anything red or bluething black.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I'm black either.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry, red or blue, We're black, is what
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: they said. And I was like, man, I've been to
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: LA a bunch of times, but I didn't understand the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 6: dynamics in the hood. You know, I be in West Hollywood,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: in and out on some art business or what have you.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: And so we were like, okay, so we want to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: show people this scene. So let's runt a flatbed truck
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 6: and let's ride around because you know, we hadn't seen
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: like what the hood is like or any semblance of LA.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 6: And so we meet at the Welcome the Compton sign,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: and then we get on this flatbed truck and ride
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: around and do segments from the truck. They take us
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 6: to a swap meet and they give us a little
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: insight on how they live, and it was crazy. I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: know it was going to be a great show. I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: get back to the hotel and I put the walk
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 6: Man on, got the cassette of the new album n
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: WA album Straight out of Content. I listened to it
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: for the first time, and I'm literally snatching the headphones
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: off my head. Can't believe the things that they're saying
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: f the police and just the aggressiveness. And the music
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: was amazing and incredible, but the things they were saying.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: I was like, Man, MTV is not gonna let this
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: this happen. They gonna pull this. Man, were done shot
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: this incredible show riding around. There's nothing's gonna happen. Well,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: the videos, they weren't able to play the video for
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: Straight out of Content, but they still had other videos
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: and other content and the and the interview played and.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: It and it took off.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: Man, it took off so lovely.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 12: When you're talking, when you hear the mount rushmore of
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 12: hip hop, right what was your on your Mount Rushmore?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: As far as artists are concerned.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, when when I get asked those kind
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: of questions, I'm basically like, I've loved so many and
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: and I'm also aware that there's different errors where different
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: people were the most important people at that time. So
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: as the errors have evolved that my Mount Rushmore would
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: it would be various versions based on But I'm a
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 6: lyrics guy, primarily based on lyricism. Oh man, it'd be
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: in the beginning, you know, I'll screw up, and I won't.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: I'm sure there's names I forget, but in the beginning, of.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: Course, you know, only before for every erar look at you,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: you know, Mount.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 14: Mo d.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 6: Kaz Cowboy, you know. And then going on further from that,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: you know Caine, Rack, Kim, g Rap.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: People forget about g Rap a lot, and I don't
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: understand why, because when you listen to you clearly get it.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: His lyrical game was masterful, just incredible way he played
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: with words. Who else was my mother? Forth from that
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: in that early period, I guess I would have to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: put I'll drop a cube in there, you know, And
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: then moving forward, you know, you know Biggie pack of course.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm stuck right now. I can't think of
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: all the names that I would love, but pretty much
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: those that you know, Nas of course, who I luckily
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: got to direct his one of his first one one
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: love Yeah, that that Q Tip produced, you know, so man,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: just and then to see Nas still putting out incredible
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: music on a consistent basis, it's like a jazz artist.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: It's just look, I got something to say. I'm not pressure.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: It's not about the paper if you will, I'm just
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: want to express this. I'm gonna drop this on you.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: And so it's it's just probably all the time he
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: probably get deferment pops.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, Olu Dara who used to live near me
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: in Harlem and we would talk because you know, and
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: that's a key thing that Nas has similar to something
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: that Rock him has both of them. Obviously, Nas dad's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: a jazz musician. Rock Kim had jazz musician. It was
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 6: a sing I can't remember her name, but earlier connection
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: to to jazz and that sensibility I think is a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 6: is a big part of his flow and his dynamic
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 6: as an artist.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: All right, Well on movie got over with Fab five
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Freddy when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club sporting Everybody's tea.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 12: Charlamagne, the guy a breakfast Club was too, kicking it
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 12: with Fab five Freddy Charlamagne.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: You didn't fox for an interview the first first time
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: on national TV. A lot of those cats. The first
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: time I interviewed Park was on this set of the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 6: movie Juice, and and then we held that show until
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: the movie dropped a few months later, and then we
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 6: added you know, and I'm also did a cameo in
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Juice as myself, you know, hosting your TV reps while
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: the DJ battle was going on.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: And uh, talk about that set. Juice, classic movie to
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: this day. Man, Amazing stars from that movie too.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of good stars, a lot of just
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: really good dynamics. And I'm pretty sure Tupac would definitely
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: have excelled in acting and clearly would have been Oscar
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: nominated by now. His dynamism on the screen was just
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: something I think like people like that have been able
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 6: to do it in music and then do it on
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 6: the screen. It's just a it's just a rare group
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 6: of people that have been able to do that. And still,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: you know, resonate to us in such a powerful way.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: But your Pock and I were pretty tight. The second
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 6: time I interviewed Pak once again, this was pre death row.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: I like to that's when because it was the first
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: time I knew his background, like he had a black
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: Panther link family wise, and that was the first time
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: he'd spoken about that when I pulled that out of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: him and he explained how his mother was panther fathered,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 6: so that that fire and that awareness of what they
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: were fighting for was part of his consciousness, so which
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 6: was really interesting. He was a dynamic cat, like I mean,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 6: he could be the most militant for a while, Fruit
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: of Islam, Black Panther and then spin on a dime
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 6: and just be the illess thug. And that was I
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: think a part of the actor in him. He could
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: completely be those people or any other people. I'm sure
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: he would have gotten to play in films. He would
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: have been super effective and compelling. So that was a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: great loss. So you saw that back then even absolutely,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: because it was just talking to him and he you know,
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  Speaker 6: and then he flipped and be just super hood And
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  Speaker 6: I think the persona that he remained in for most
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  Speaker 6: of his public life after was the persona of bishop
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  Speaker 6: in Jewics like that was his character that you know,
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  Speaker 6: he wanted to become on everybody and as many people
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  Speaker 6: wanted to wish to have been a big dude on
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  Speaker 6: the New York scene or strong cat that conflects like
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  Speaker 6: in Harlem and all that, and juice was his way
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  Speaker 6: to do that. And because come on, he he wasn't
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  Speaker 6: that dude prior. But he stayed in that character largely
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  Speaker 6: and then unfortunately got caught up.
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  Speaker 4: And this that and the third on the New York side,
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  Speaker 4: if you know, the drum.
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  Speaker 6: And then went West Coast, and you would think he
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  Speaker 6: was born in South Central the way he rapped, you know,
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  Speaker 6: on out there in Cali, which so super effectively, but
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  Speaker 6: he could he was convincing in any of those genres
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  Speaker 6: or any of those formats he would put itself in.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think commercially, because you was there from
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  Speaker 3: the inception, why do you think commercially the West Coast
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  Speaker 3: took off?
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  Speaker 4: It seemed like to me before the East Coast, like
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: With the massive mainstream success that we see in hip
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  Speaker 3: hop now interesting, I just.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that's but would you say that because
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  Speaker 4: he had run DMC had I.
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  Speaker 6: Thought it was their term. Yeah, we blew up big
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  Speaker 6: and dug out and planted a firm foundation. That's why
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  Speaker 6: this culture still rocks so hard today day because the
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: roots went deep without anything going viral too early or
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  Speaker 6: people jumping out there. Tucson and was.
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  Speaker 4: Jef Rowe was a monster.
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  Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg sold what eight hundred plus thousand his first
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  Speaker 3: and second week. He was like the first hip hop
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  Speaker 3: artist on certain magazine covers, like he really was. It
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  Speaker 3: was something else, that was something else, and it started
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  Speaker 3: with NWA to me, but.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was a big thing.
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  Speaker 6: They had an incredible movement. It was I think it
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  Speaker 6: just followed they They added on nicely to the foundation
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  Speaker 6: that was laid right here in New York. And then
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  Speaker 6: once again, I was honored to get to direct Snoop's
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  Speaker 6: first video for What's My Name and turned him into
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: a dog. And then interestingly, you know, I'm in the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: cannabis business now with a brand called b Noble, which
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 6: grew out of a film I made which you can
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: see on Netflix called grass Is Greener. And I got
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: Snoopers in my film, and Snoop tells the story, which
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know that he Dre. I spent that whole
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  Speaker 6: summer living with Ray in Calabasas, because the first day
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: of shooting Snoop's video him performing on VIP Records. Right
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: after that we changed locations in Long Beach. That turns
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  Speaker 6: into a near riot. That's like not more than a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 6: year after the La riots, So we got shut down.
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  Speaker 6: Draces fab I gotta finish Snoop's album. If you can
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  Speaker 6: chill and hang, we will get the video done. My
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  Speaker 6: priority is getting this record done. So that Let's led
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  Speaker 6: me to spend the rest of that summer out there
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: hanging with Dre and the dog Pown, getting to know
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: them real well, seeing Dre's process in the studio, which
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 6: was remarkable, and then we would get a moment to
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: run out and get some scenes that would be other
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: parts of the video. And then towards the end of
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: the summer there was a big scene that I never
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 6: got to shoot because Snoop got caught up famously murder
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: was the case. I said, Man, I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 4: This is just not enough. I want to document.
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  Speaker 3: You need you need a document like you yourself, like
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  Speaker 3: you have to tell how did you get your name.
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  Speaker 6: I became a part of a graffiti crew called the
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  Speaker 6: Fabulous Five. They were the one of the dominant groups
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 6: of graffiti painters in New York, which were known for
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: doing murals on this side of the primarily on the
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  Speaker 6: Lexington Avenue number five train. So what you would tag
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  Speaker 6: up was, you know, you tag your name and the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: group you was down with and then off. And then
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  Speaker 6: sometimes I would be referred to as, Oh, that's Fab
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  Speaker 6: five Freddy. You know what I'm saying, that's fab five
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  Speaker 6: fred And when Blondie made Rapture, it just embedded it
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  Speaker 6: and solidified it. When she dropped my name, when she
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: basically was like fab five Freddy told me everybody's fly
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  Speaker 6: and I was like, man, wow, I never thought of
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: it as the whole thing. But that's a good look,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I mean. She represented and gave me
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  Speaker 6: a look and it it booms. So that's how that
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: really came together.
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  Speaker 4: I just want you to tell people how difficult it
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: was to tag trees back in the day. It was
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: so just just talk about that.
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  Speaker 6: There's a great documentary that was done the same time
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  Speaker 6: we making Wild Style early eighties. There was a documentary
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  Speaker 6: called Star Wars that illustrates. In fact k Slay, whose
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  Speaker 6: rest of Young graffiti Rider named Dez is featured as
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  Speaker 6: a young graffiti rider and he's you see him in
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  Speaker 6: Star Wars. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 6: You had to know where the trains what we called
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 6: called the called the layup or in times when the
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: rush hour is not running, the extra trains are placed
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: in different areas in the city, sometimes in tunnels, sometimes
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: at the yards. So you had to know which train
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: you wanted to get to get up on where that
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: train was going to be, whether in a tunnel or
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: way up in the train yards at the end of
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: the train line somewhere. And then you had to be
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: stealthy on some ninja type energy to get up in there,
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  Speaker 6: because one of the objectives is also you know, not
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: to get caught, and so you had to have all
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: those pieces together to get in, get out, and hopefully
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 6: not get caught.
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  Speaker 4: You ever got caught, taken the tray never never.
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  Speaker 6: If you get caught, one of your sentences was to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 6: go wash walls, so you clean the graffiti off the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: trade on the overalls. They you're your bucket and a
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: bunch of chemicals, and you be at some platform and
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: some station having the clean walls, feeling like, man, I
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 6: got caught out here. I feel I'm like a herb now,
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  Speaker 6: you know. So it wasn't easy. It was a very
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: difficult thing.
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  Speaker 3: And uh it just made something that people thought was
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: just vandalizing back in the day became something so synonymous
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: part with New York City.
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  Speaker 4: It gave the city character. You see it in video games,
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  Speaker 4: cartoons and everything.
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  Speaker 6: That blows my mind. You know, graffiti fonts, you can
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: get a font and just use graffiti letters. So that's
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  Speaker 6: that's really satisfying to see that. That's a lot of
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: these ideas we had have really worked, and I'm excited
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  Speaker 6: for the next fifty. All right, well, we appreciate you
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  Speaker 6: for thanks, having wanted to be up here with you.
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  Speaker 12: You brother, absolutely the Breakfast Club, Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: Your morning's will never be the same.