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Jaguars Happy Hour | Pete & Tony Recap Week 13 Loss to Texans · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, December second. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick with you busy
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  Speaker 2: two hours ahead. In the aftermath of the loss of
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  Speaker 2: the Texans twenty three twenty the final score, Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 2: in Concussion Protocol Walker Little Extended Jaguars will officially be
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  Speaker 2: fully eliminated with a Broncos win tonight. The Keeping It
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  Speaker 2: around the NFL. The Jaguars have been eliminated from the
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  Speaker 2: Vision title contention after yesterday's loss. Plenty to get to,
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  Speaker 2: but Trevor Lawrence in the Protocol is priority number one.
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  Speaker 3: He's also dealing with a.
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  Speaker 2: Left shoulder issue five games to play. Let's hear from
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  Speaker 2: head coach Doug Peterson today on the possibility of shutting
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  Speaker 2: him down for the season.
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  Speaker 4: You still want to send you know, a positive, good
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  Speaker 4: message to your team that we're still we're still fighting,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to the end. Still got five games on
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  Speaker 4: the schedule. Obviously, you know we'll see but you know
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  Speaker 4: we got to be smart too for the for his
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  Speaker 4: you know, his long term health as well.
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  Speaker 2: So he also said today that they'll see what happens
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  Speaker 2: when he comes out of the protocol, reassessed, see where
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  Speaker 2: the team is.
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  Speaker 3: That's Doug Peterson. Earlier today, Hall of.
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  Speaker 2: Fame left tackle Tony Boselli with me here in the
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  Speaker 2: Hyundai studios and senior writer for CBS Sports Pete Prisco
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  Speaker 2: down in South Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Pete. Let's start with you. How are you.
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  Speaker 5: What's up? Guys? Boy? That was bad?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, that was a bad bad scene, bad hit, dirty hit,
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  Speaker 6: flagrant hit. I thought the team responded when it happened,
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  Speaker 6: and probably could have even responded a little bit more.
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  Speaker 6: But again, you never like to see that ever in
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  Speaker 6: a game. And you know it was when the elbow
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  Speaker 6: comes up and goes to the head. That's a dirty hit.
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  Speaker 6: And he's had some dirty hits in his past too,
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  Speaker 6: So there's a suspension coming. I think his statement that
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  Speaker 6: he sent out he's trying to get ahead of that
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  Speaker 6: a little bit, but it was it was brutal to
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  Speaker 6: see and I was watching I can't imagine what you
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  Speaker 6: guys saw it when you saw it, lie because I
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  Speaker 6: was watching it on TV.
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  Speaker 5: But it looked awful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was. You could see it coming
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  Speaker 3: as far as where Al Alshazier was and how Trevor
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  Speaker 3: was going. I'm like, and I was like, get down,
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  Speaker 3: get down, because I was worried about his shoulder more
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  Speaker 3: than anything.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he's out there running for the first time. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wait a minute, he's got a bad shoulder.
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  Speaker 3: Get down. And so he starts getting down and just
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Al al SA's ear just takes
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  Speaker 3: Al Shaiir al shay al Shair to.
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  Speaker 5: Give him about four more tries.
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  Speaker 3: You'll get it right, Al shai Eir pub going to
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  Speaker 3: be number one. You should know it by sorry. Al
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  Speaker 3: Shaiir took the form right to the head and and
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  Speaker 3: that that wasn't what gave him the concussion. It's his
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  Speaker 3: head bouncing off the turf with the force of all
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  Speaker 3: of al Shair coming through them, and that right there.
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  Speaker 3: You knew it was bad when you saw it and
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  Speaker 3: you saw his arms freeze, which is the telltale sign
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  Speaker 3: of a severe concussion. It was a cheap shot. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: we see it every week in the NFL. I don't
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  Speaker 3: I don't care. Maybe it was a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: a late slide, but we see late slides like that
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  Speaker 3: all the time, and the defender what they do is
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  Speaker 3: they end up going over the top of them and
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  Speaker 3: maybe the slight contact incidental. And everyone understands it because
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  Speaker 3: it was a little bit of a late slide and
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  Speaker 3: the defender goes over the top and it's over.
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  Speaker 2: But he was purposeful or they hit.
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  Speaker 6: Him and it's a foul. But you're trying to slide
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  Speaker 6: over him. If you hit him, it's a foul.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that, but it's they're trying to get out
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  Speaker 3: of the way he was. I don't care what his
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  Speaker 3: statement is. You watch the tape.
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  Speaker 2: He was leading with the forearm through.
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  Speaker 6: Trevor yep, right that that was a dirty that's a
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  Speaker 6: dirty play. There's no the forum comes up like that,
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  Speaker 6: that's a dirty play.
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  Speaker 3: Dirty play. But you said something I thought that was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: You liked the initial response, but you thought there could
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  Speaker 3: be more. Before I tell you what I believe, I
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  Speaker 3: want to hear what you think more could have been done?
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  Speaker 3: You have questions, Well, I.
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  Speaker 6: Don't mind the initial stuff. You gotta defend your quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: I thought Evan Ingram did a great job. I thought,
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  Speaker 6: you know, when they started carrying on a little bit,
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  Speaker 6: that's like the Jaguars did a great job.
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking about in the second half.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you gotta you gotta go back in there
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  Speaker 6: and show some of your physical play.
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  Speaker 5: And maybe push the envelope a little bit to show, Look,
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  Speaker 5: you got our quarterback. We're not gonna take this crap
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  Speaker 5: from you. And Tony, Look, I'm gonna be honest with you.
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  Speaker 6: And even dating back to when you guys played, the
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  Speaker 6: reputation of the Jaguars was that you were you were
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  Speaker 6: a tad soft.
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  Speaker 5: Remember the Titans.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to say it like the movie,
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  Speaker 6: but the Titans always came in like they were the
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  Speaker 6: tougher team than you were. And there were times and
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  Speaker 6: I remember, you were not in this game back in
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  Speaker 6: the day. You were not in the game. You're hurt,
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  Speaker 6: I think, But I think it was Scott Sanderson.
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember him? Played for the Titans.
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  Speaker 6: He was an offensive guard and one of your guys.
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  Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was busted through and he
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  Speaker 6: came from behind and cut and chopped him from behind
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  Speaker 6: with one of the most illegal blocks.
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  Speaker 5: You'll ever see, and I think he sent them to
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  Speaker 5: the side.
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  Speaker 6: I can't remember who it was, and there was no retaliation,
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  Speaker 6: And I said something I think even to you after
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  Speaker 6: the game, because you weren't in the game, and knowing
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  Speaker 6: you the way you were, you probably would have retaliated.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't think there was enough of that in
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  Speaker 5: the second half yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying go out and physically hurt somebody, because
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  Speaker 6: nobody wants to see anybody hurt in the game. Nobody
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  Speaker 6: wants to see, you know, that kind of dirty hit
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  Speaker 6: like he had. But I think there's moments where you
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  Speaker 6: have to show that you're not going to be pushed
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  Speaker 6: around and you won't allow your quarterback to be hit
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  Speaker 6: like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pee, I would disagree with that. Your description of
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  Speaker 3: the teams in the nineties. I mean, I thought, if
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  Speaker 3: you go back anytime anyone got illegally or stretched the
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  Speaker 3: play to hit Mark Burnell or any of our skill guys,
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  Speaker 3: there was usually a fight happening. So I would disagree,
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  Speaker 3: But do.
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  Speaker 5: You remember that playing. I don't think you were in
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  Speaker 5: the game. I don't think you were in that game,
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  Speaker 5: so I would.
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  Speaker 3: Disagree with your your description there. I thought the response
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  Speaker 3: by Evan Ingram and the guys right when it happened
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  Speaker 3: was fine, great, that's that's what you're supposed to do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I would have wished like
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  Speaker 3: they would have jumped up, like just not let him
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  Speaker 3: get up and just bury his head in the turf
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  Speaker 3: with multiple forearms in the back of his head.
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  Speaker 5: But I kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Onde, well, I mean, they could have got But I
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  Speaker 3: thought the response was perfect. I really did. I thought
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  Speaker 3: Evan Ingram didn't hesitate. I have no issues. If they
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  Speaker 3: all would have got kicked out of the game for
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  Speaker 3: beating and fighting the whole text and sidelines after what
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  Speaker 3: was happened, I'd have been fine. At some point, you
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  Speaker 3: have to police the game yourself during it, and I
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  Speaker 3: know the game has changed, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: you just can't allow that to happen. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: the team responded and as far as could they have
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  Speaker 3: done more.
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  Speaker 5: Not in the moment.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying in the second half, you know, you
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  Speaker 6: might have been able to blast somebody right, maybe a
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  Speaker 6: second after the whistle or whatever, just get get a
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  Speaker 6: message sent a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: We're not going to tolerate that, and so be it.
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  Speaker 5: If you got a fifteen yard flag, take that you gotta.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes the end result for the long term is better
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  Speaker 5: than what would happen in the moment. That's that's what
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  Speaker 5: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And at what point, though, if that were to happen Peede,
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  Speaker 2: do they get labeled as an undisciplined team for going back?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: Not in this case.
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  Speaker 6: Anybody knows, anybody knows has ever played football, and Tony
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  Speaker 6: knows that. It'll tell you if something like that happens
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  Speaker 6: at some point, there's usually an eye for an.
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  Speaker 3: Eye, okay.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not saying go go at CJ.
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  Speaker 6: Stroud's knees or anything stupid or ignorant like that.
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  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is get a shot in at the end.
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  Speaker 5: You know, receiver goes across the middle and the ball
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  Speaker 5: goes through his arms.
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  Speaker 6: Get a shot, good shot, blast him, and maybe you
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  Speaker 6: get a fifteen yard penalty.
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  Speaker 5: But you're sending that message back what you do to
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  Speaker 5: our guy, We just got.
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  Speaker 6: One back, and that's the message you sent, right.
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  Speaker 3: There, Pete, I know what you're saying, and I understand it,
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  Speaker 3: I think, and you gotta be careful here because there
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  Speaker 3: is a line like I was never like I'd go
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  Speaker 3: after guys like we remember Jesse Armstad from the Giants, Pete, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he hit Mark Low during the preseason, knocked Mark out
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  Speaker 3: for the first three weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 5: I remember it.
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  Speaker 3: And we played them week two and we purposely we're
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  Speaker 3: going to go after him and we made it no.
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  Speaker 3: And from the first play to the last play, if
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  Speaker 3: whoever what offer offensive lineman was getting the next level,
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  Speaker 3: you went and found him and you just beat the
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  Speaker 3: hell out of him. And there was multime like the
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  Speaker 3: whistles blow, You're still blocking him, trying to throw him
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  Speaker 3: on the ground, hit him in the head. With that said,
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  Speaker 3: I would not go at his knees, No, because I'm
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  Speaker 3: not trying to end his.
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  Speaker 5: Career, right, You're not taking away somebody's slightly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. As bad as what
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  Speaker 3: I thought Al Shazir did, Alshair did, like going after
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  Speaker 3: his knees or going after CJ. Stroud's needs or something
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  Speaker 3: like that, that's not that's just I don't like that with that,
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  Speaker 3: But I would have been okay if Trey Ron or
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  Speaker 3: Josh maybe took three steps till the ball was thrown
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  Speaker 3: and hit him right in the back of the head.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have probably wouldn't been like, okay, fifteen yarder. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: there was a play down the sideline when CJ. Stroud
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  Speaker 3: was getting ready to run out of bounds and tray Von,
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  Speaker 3: which he did the right thing. He did the right
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  Speaker 3: on the sideline there, because if he hits him there
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  Speaker 3: the whole I don't I'm not sure you finished the
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  Speaker 3: game right. So there's that's what.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Doug Peterson said that the referee said zero tolerance
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  Speaker 2: from here on out anything else happens.
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  Speaker 3: So what close to that? They're probably getting run out
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  Speaker 3: of the gemit.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's zero tolerance usually in a game anyways
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  Speaker 5: for that stuff. So what's the difference.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look where I understand what Pete's saying, but
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  Speaker 3: I was okay with them not doing that either. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it showed a laugh lack of toughness or
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  Speaker 3: caring or having Trevor's back.
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  Speaker 5: No, it didn't show.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't show a lack of caring or not having
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  Speaker 6: his back or any of that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that what it shows is that you're
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  Speaker 3: not going to take it. That's right. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: they sent that message down.
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  Speaker 6: The quarterback even in the pocket, grabbing him and throwing
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  Speaker 6: them down after the whistle, you know, which like nine
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  Speaker 6: times out of ten, isn't gonna it's not probably not
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  Speaker 6: gonna hurt it, guy, throw him down laughter the whistle,
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  Speaker 6: just show look you got ours, well here we're getting yours.
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  Speaker 6: We're not going for his knees. We're not trying to
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  Speaker 6: get his shoulder, his arm or anything. We're just sending
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  Speaker 6: a message back to you, just to remind you that
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  Speaker 6: we're not gonna take the crap.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I like, the only thing I was
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  Speaker 3: thinking back is I wouldn't mind a couple like kind
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  Speaker 3: of situations, like all right, we're all on blitzing and like.
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  Speaker 5: Hit him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care hit him, hit him as hard as
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  Speaker 3: you can. We're gonna play man in the back end.
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  Speaker 3: We'll take some chances, but just hit him as hard
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  Speaker 3: as you can. I got that would have been okay,
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  Speaker 3: But like I was thinking, we said it on the
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  Speaker 3: air when Trayvon pulled up. Jeff and I both said it.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, man, part of me wanted him to knock
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  Speaker 3: him out, but Trayvon did the right thing. Yeah, Trayvon
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  Speaker 3: did the right thing.
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  Speaker 5: He did, but there are other ways to do.
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  Speaker 3: There's other way because yeah, he would kill them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean as big as like is a big man.
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  Speaker 3: He's not TV. I mean Trayvon Walker, we kill him.
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  Speaker 5: No, But you talk about trying to injure somebody.
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  Speaker 6: If Al had done that to Tua, that would have
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  Speaker 6: been a guy going to try and injure somebody without question.
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  Speaker 5: Right, that's a difference going at knees, going going at
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  Speaker 5: somebody's knees. You you can't do that.
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  Speaker 6: That's because you, just like you said, you're taking away
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  Speaker 6: their livelihood going at a head for like a guy
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  Speaker 6: like too or somebody who's had a bunch of concussions,
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  Speaker 6: that's the same thing. You know, Trevor hasn't been at
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  Speaker 6: what he had a concussion before last year.
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  Speaker 5: That's that's concerning. So yeah, you know, look, what did
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  Speaker 5: Jerry and Jones do?
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  Speaker 3: He threw a punch, Yeah, at a I believe so, probably.
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  Speaker 5: Because I tried to watch it on the sideline. I
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  Speaker 5: couldn't see it, but if he did, kudos to him.
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  Speaker 3: Pete. I'm like, I'm with you. I'm with you, And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we've told the story on there
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  Speaker 3: or not. It was it was I think it was
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  Speaker 3: ninety seven. We're playing the Ravens here at four o'clock game,
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  Speaker 3: and they had a safety, Benny Blades, who was a
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  Speaker 3: kind of a journeyman safety, great special needs player.
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  Speaker 6: Not a journeyman safety. He was a really you're talking about, no, Benny, Tom.
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  Speaker 3: Benny Thompson, sorrybody, Benny was a good, very good safety.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Benny Thompson, great special needs player, kind of middle of
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  Speaker 3: the road safety, journeyman like a tank, but like today,
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  Speaker 3: be a middle linebacker in today's game.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: He played safety, strong safety, and it's a tight game,
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  Speaker 3: back and forth, and he was absolutely just tattooing our receivers,
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  Speaker 3: I mean just tattooing him. And this is back in
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  Speaker 3: the day when you could. And we're thrown across the
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  Speaker 3: middle because we're behind. So we go in late and score.
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  Speaker 3: Keithen catches the ball for a touchdown, take the lead,
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  Speaker 3: and Benny Thompson just absolutely hammers him in the end
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  Speaker 3: zone and so I take about a ten yard run
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  Speaker 3: and just four arm him in the side of the
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  Speaker 3: head as hard as I could, and a melee breaks out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean just a melee. And it's in the north
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  Speaker 3: end zone, in the corner, up against the wall, and
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  Speaker 3: where it just punches me and thrown officials trying to
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  Speaker 3: break it up, just chaos, and Pete Mitchell and Ben
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  Speaker 3: Coleman were trying to get in there to break it up.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, I lose my mind. There's no telling
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  Speaker 3: what I'm yes nuts. And I actually got thrown out
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  Speaker 3: of the game. I'm gonna tell a story about how
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  Speaker 3: I ended up. I got thrown out of the game,
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  Speaker 3: but they allowed me back in the game, and that's
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  Speaker 3: a whole different story. And I got fined good amount,
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  Speaker 3: and I'd pay that many every day of the week,
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  Speaker 3: twice on Sunday, because that's my job. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: let a guy just take cheap shots at my skill players, quarterback, receivers,
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  Speaker 3: running backs. Now, if it's clean hits, that's football. But
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  Speaker 3: this was too far. This was in the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: The plays over, and he just hammered them. And and
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  Speaker 3: Pete and Benny got fine too, And I paid I said, listen,
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  Speaker 3: I got you into this mess. Appeal it. See if
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  Speaker 3: we can get it a little bit less. But that's
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  Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do. What Evan Ingram and I
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  Speaker 3: love it. It was like instinctual for him. It was
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  Speaker 3: he didn't even hesitate. Brandon Sheriff running down the field,
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  Speaker 3: took his helmet off. It said like you want to go,
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  Speaker 3: let's go. Yeah. I love that.
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  Speaker 5: Brian Thomas too.
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  Speaker 3: Oh but yeah, they're all I'm not saying anyone was bad, no.
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  Speaker 5: But Brian Thomas carried that over. He was trying to
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  Speaker 5: get at him. Oh yeah, that's a great look for
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  Speaker 5: a rookie. WI. I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I love it because that's what you're supposed to do,
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  Speaker 3: and we're showing you right now. And everyone's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: this is not part of the game. It's ugly, Okay,
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: it's a violent game. It's a tough game. Sometimes you
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: have to take manners in your own hands. I'm not
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: saying it's right or wrong. I'm not saying it's a
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: good look, but the reality is you had a guy
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: who took a shot at your franchise quarterback and you
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: can't just stand there and do nothing.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: Why has Brandon Sheriff's been in the league for so long.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Why the hell would you take your helmet off?
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: He knows, Oh, because no, because uh uh uh Shaier
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: had taken his off. So yeah, it was the best
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: thing ever. So he's like, all right, you want to
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: take helmets off.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: I say this though, this, this bothers me a little bit.
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: Over'reseeing here.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: Don't throw things. Don't throw things. You're not part of it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: Crowd agree, don't do not Well, it's right, you're not
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: part of it. This happened on the field.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: It's it's it's between it's between people on the field,
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: and it's a game of football, and they're paid to
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: play the game of football.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Dirty things happen sometimes they deal with it. You don't
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: need to be throwing things from the crowd. That that
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: that that to me was the worst part of it.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And it went over the that went over the line.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: So that was the part that bothered me.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: So people, I think you and are in agreement. I'm
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: not saying they couldn't have done something in the second half,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: maybe take a shot at CJ, but I don't think they.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I thought they represented themselves fine and they handled it fine.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: What was Bucky Brooks talking about today when he put
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: that out there?
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Did you see what he.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Said about the code there?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: And I didn't see that coming out a halftime too,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: by the way he was talking about like god.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: But I also I think he was referring to maybe
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: taking a shot doing a little bit more like we
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: were like we were. I also think I read and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want to and JP, I think maybe you
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: can help me here that there were guys and I
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: don't know who they were that were talking about they
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: didn't want to respond because they didn't want to get fined, okay,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and Bucky had a problem with that is how I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: read that as well. I thought that's what he was
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: referring to.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, if you're not responding because you're gonna
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: get fined looked nine times at ten, somebody else will
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: pay the fine.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Anyways, in that scenario.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: This is like who cares at some point, It's more
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: like the game and the locker room and the men
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and the code of how you play the game is
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: more important than if you get fined or not.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Just his We've got plenty ahead. We'll come back around
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to this. Certainly, because it is the topic of the day.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But we've got to get to what's left for the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Jaguars as well, five games ago. We'll come back in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: a moment. We'll get to the defensive performance. This actually
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: was okay early in the game. Settled for some field goals.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Another hundred yard Russia. I know, last play of the game,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. That was the most important play the game.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I know, third down, third and five. We'll get to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that coming up.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Also on offense, Mac Jones in the second half, we'll break
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: all back down.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Second hour coming up. I want to hear what Pete
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: thinks about Mac Jones.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do too.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: He's very critical.
• 20:18
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• 20:37
  Speaker 7: I'll be handle when it's handled. I think everybody right
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: now is trying to get these next five weeks right,
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: starting with this week up. I think you got to understand,
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: like this is a pretty good locker room in terms
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: of focusing on the next play. Uh nobody's pointing fingers
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: or stuff. I'm sorry, And you know, I definitely had
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: a lot of respect for the guys in the locker
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: room because you've heard about other teams and these type
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: of situations kind of cave and start becomes a crapshoot,
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: I would say. So everybody's kind of be a professional
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: about it, and we're researching, but we need to take
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: ownership in and get these things right.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Boy look and Jaguars Linebackers.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans j P Shadwick,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, Pete Prisco Day after a twenty three twenty
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: loss to the Houston Texans five games ago, the Jaguars
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: eliminated from division title contention, but not officially eliminated from postseason.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: How until if Denver wins that I took correct.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The New England Patriots have one more win than us,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: but I saw they were eliminated. How are they because
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: we beat them or something? Yes, ty Break, I don't understand,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: ty Breaker.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, you need not worry about it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, you don't think we're going.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Uh no, in fact, we should start talking about the draft.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: We got rules. Fans are calling for it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: A lot of things. They call a lot of things, Pete.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately fans don't always get their wish just like the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: rest of us. No drafts, No drafts, Pete, did you
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: see I sent you? Uh what you were? What we
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: were referring to earlier about Bucky Brooks comments on X
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: I think they were spot on by the way Bucky's
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: great or what he does. Yeah, outstanding, outstanding football guy.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: And then we were listening to Demiko Ryans.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: During the break.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Apparently today Pete his press conference day, and I have
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: issues with Demiko. He was basically trying to justify it
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: that it was a late slide and that it's not
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: okay what happened. Everything's open. Trevoro's okay, but the Jaguars.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And then he got on and said our sideline didn't
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: handle it right. And I wish I'd have been at
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: that press conference. I'd have raised my hand, Hey, Dimiko,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Tony Biselli from Jacksonville, if Trayvon Walker would have laid
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: out C. J. Stroud on the sideline, would you have
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: made sure your all your guys stayed right where they
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: were not confronted?
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Not confronted Trayvon because we all know the answer. The
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: place would have exploded.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: So Rans is a player.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: He knows better now what he's trying to do. Pete,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: he's trying to protect his guy. They're in a playoff run,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: trying to keep the limit. That's exactly right, because they are.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: They need him. They can't stop the run very well
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: without him, so they're not. I think it's a one
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and done in the playoffsj Stroud has regressed.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: The line has sped him up to the.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, sped you nailed it. He's so sped.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Up yeap doesn't allow anything to develop.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: And then he misses things too.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which like the throat of tank dell down the fleet.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: He never missed that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yep. He's very late.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And they are running the ball some mixing over one
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: hundred again, but I had to do at the end
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of the game, but didn't, and they're running enough.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Keep on saying that. At the end of the game
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the third down play, you understand, it still counts as
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: one hundred yards.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: And they were still trying to stop them JP. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: know that they if they got to stop there, they
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: might have got the balls.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Trying to stop they ran left every time in that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: possession and kept going that way and still got it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah they did.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: And and you know one of the defenses, I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: it was Monteric Brown got caught inside.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: On one of those runs and yeah that was the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: long run. Yeah. So look, the bottom line is Demiico
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Ryans is wrong, Tony. But what he's doing is right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: And if you put it, if you actually asked him that,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: he would say to you, yeah, you're right. Oh.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you if I talked to Demico privately, just
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: right leo, tell you what he.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Was doing, he would tell you, and you would do
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: the same thing if you were the head coach.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: You're trying to protect your guy. I get it politics, man,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: but I don't think he had to go to the
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: extra mile, like getting on our bench, like you know
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: exactly if if if Trayvon would have laid out CJ
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: when you like, it would have been a penalty. It's
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: not part of the game. I'm glad Trayvon didn't do it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want CJ to get hurt. He's the fun
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: guy to watch. But if you hadn't done it that play,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: the bench would have exploded. They're going crazy and by
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the way.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: And bench was nearly out of his control, as some
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: benches would be. Would you agree with that?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: No, Well, there was a lot of.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Guys that's a compliment.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: By Yeah, there was a lot of guys in the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: peripheral that were just making kind of not getting all.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: But there was about ten fifteen guys that it was,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: you know, ae W wrestling in there. I mean they
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: were they were going after the.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Trayvon Walker was in the middle of that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, he had no helmet on, which again, tell him
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: put his helmet on.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think he probably doesn't need one.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Who else was in there?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I mean that's a big Traymond's a big man.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: He is a big man. He's the stuff around.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Sheriff was in there, him in there, Evan obviously, Uh,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Jorian chops, Uh?
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: Where was that? Where was the I didn't see that?
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: But did you see anybody see that? Where was he
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: when he punched?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I saw him go in. I guess he's in the
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: pile down there, so I saw him go into the melee.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't see the punch.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: I like it, though, you got a defensive back going
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: in there like that. I like it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior he's not afraid.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: No, he was Jason around. He tried to get it.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: He tried, though Brian.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: Thomas looked like he was doing one of those hold
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: me back, holding me back, hold me back, like.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean, he really didn't want.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. Knowing Brian Thomas, I don't know
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: him well, but knowing them, I think that was legit.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Like he was the edge.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: I don't think Brian, but he was right next to sheriff.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: But he was doing it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Smart guy, he's I mean so, but it's so unfortunate.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: I mean it really yesterday. I'm just watching that game
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: and like it is the same story every week outside
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of Buffalo and Detroit to getting blown out, start slow,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: get behind, scramble, make it a one possession game and
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: either don't get to stop, or don't doore or don't score.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it doesn't matter if we have the
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: ball or not last, because if we have the ball last,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: we're not going to score. If they have the ball last,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: they're going to score.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I mean, think about it. Think about this.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: The Eagles are like considered one of the maybe the
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: best team in the league right now. Jacksonville at a
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: wheel route to go win it, right, I mean they
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: could have beat them that time, and so you're right, Tony,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: every game other than those two, Detroit and Buffalo have
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: come down to, you know, the end of the game
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: and slow starts.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Why do they always start so slow?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: One of the things I think we should do because
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: we're gonna be out of the playoffs here soon, probably
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: by eleven tonight.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Probably by midnight to night.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Made it probably, I think it, you know, because I know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: as much as I don't want to do it, we're
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: gonna talk about the roster, and we're talking about free agency,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna talk about the draft. I know it's coming,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: but I think it'd be interesting just to look at
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the overall roster and the makeup and the build of it.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Because I got the question multiple times over the break,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: but really even today was like what happened? Like how
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: do we get here?
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: How do we become the worst team in the NFL,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: the only team there's only three teams with two losses?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: I think believe it's the Giants who are an absolute
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: dumpster fire. It's the Raiders who are they invented dumpster fire.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Terrible and us. Remember whenever one said Calans first, we
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: picked first. You remember when everyone was saying the Carolina
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Panthers the worst team in the NFL, No, they're not.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: And you know part of the reason why they're not, Tony,
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: tell me what do you always talk about big people?
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: You know what they did in the offseason.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: They spent invested in big people.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: Correct And and the left tackle, the third year guy
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: gotten much better.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: He's gotten much better he he was, he struggled.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: It was.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Pete.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I'll say this. I remember watching him last year early
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I did a national game and then we played them
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: late and you saw him getting better last year.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: And he's much better this year than yea.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: And the right tackle, Moten's always been a battler, like
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: almost like a Leon Sears. He kind of back, you
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: know what I mean, squatty, kind of tough, high and
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: so all of a sudden you look at their offensive line.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: They can run it, they're protecting him. I mean, they
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: can do a lot of things because of their offensive line.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: That's the reason. And and and.
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Again you can't there's only so many of them.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: And by the way, we talk a lot about big people,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: there was a big guy on the field on the
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: other side of the ball for Jacksonville that hadn't played
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: much this year, that actually did some things on Sunday.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Mason Smith did some good things on some.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I want to come back and talk about two guys.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Pete stick on this theme. I want to talk about
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Walker Little, who signed a new deal. I want to
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I want to get your opinion. Pete up the deal and.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Watch the tape this morning, and I'll talk about the
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: deal too.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the deal on his play. And then
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: let's talk about Mason Smith because I watched him as well,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and he's a young guy, rookie second rounder up like
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: hasn't done much, hasn't been on the field, on the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: field healthy Scratch Scratch because of an ankle, got his
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: most extensive playing time yesterday. And let's talk about those
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: two guys when we come back.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a it's a play that nobody
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: wants to see in our league obviously, you know, because
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: you see what happens, you know, after the fact, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: it just escalates. And and I've got a lot of
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: respect for coach Ryan's and I mean he does I know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: he doesn't coach his team that way. We don't coach
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: our team that way. And it's unfortunate, it really is.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: It's unfortunate, you know, And I'm just glad that you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: you know, Trevor is gonna be fine. You'll obviously be
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: in the protocol. But you know, it's a it's just
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: just an unfortunate play.
• 32:31
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  Speaker 2: signing the extension before the game yesterday, actually signed it
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: yesterday and then walked across the street to the stadium
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: and played the football game. And he'll be here. The
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: extension for three years reportedly and about twenty six million
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: guaranteed forty.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Five total, I believe. Yeah, fifteen a year, basically, yeah,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: it really if you think about it, really becomes a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: two year, twenty six million dollar deal.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: So thirteen a year for.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's guaranteed, Pete. Now, if he plays well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: he's gonna be underpaid very quickly, and you're gonna you're
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: gonna have him for a deal.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: But let's be real, the guys never really won a job, Pete.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: You took my thunder. So here, So here's my old
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: thoughts about this. I've been thinking about it, got a
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: ton of questions, and I want to start by I
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: am so happy for Walker Little as a player. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: love when guys get paid. It's a tough game. And
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sure Walker, like me and everyone else a lot more,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: almost everyone I know who played the game, this is
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: what you wanted to do your whole life and now
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: to get paid the amount that he's going to be
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: paid that can really take care of his family and
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: like right generationally, I mean, it's great, It is so
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: cool for him. So I'm so excited for him, And
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I actually have no issue with the deal, length, amount
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: or anything. If you think about starting tackles and having
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: starting tackle a starting tackle in the NFL, TUSA, Okay, what's.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: Less money than what Cam Robinson got from him? It is.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: And if you look at the free agent market this year,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: PFF has him as the third or excuse me, the
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: fourth rated tackle that's in the free agent market coming up.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: So you're a PFF guy, now, No, I just heard that, Okay,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: and and Pete and I've talked about it a lot
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: on the show that offensive line played. There's only so
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: many guys who are starting caliber at that position, so
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I imagine there would be some there be there was going
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: to be a market if he got the free agency
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm not saying you should have waited till that.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I thought the timing was interesting from the standpoint. What
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: was the hurry to do it now when you basically
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: had a free six six week look and maybe you
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: don't take all six, maybe take three of them because
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Pete's right. Walker Little has never won the job here.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: He was given multiple opportunities to win the job. He
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: never won the job, to the point they weren't confident
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: enough that he could be the starting right tackle. They
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: went and spend a first rounder when they had Cam
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: on the roster at left and Walker Little was under contract.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: They didn't think he was good enough to be the
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: starting right tackle because the year before he couldn't beat
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: out Juwan Taylor, and so they drafted Anton Harrison. He
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: has started here because of injury or suspension or because
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the starter got traded, and now you have this. You
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: have this look for it's been two weeks. This is
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the third week. You have five more after this, and
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I and I thought they'd wait a little bit longer.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: With that said, it makes sense though, because if we
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: went through this, I think it was last week of
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the week before before they did this deal. They really
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: they had Anton Harrison and Ezra Cleveland. You had no
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: left tackle under contract, Your center and right guard are
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: going there eleventh year. You don't know what they're gonna do,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and you have.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: This center center by the way, it wasn't very good
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: on Sunday.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: And you have no real backups. They be developed unless
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: you feel like Luke Fortner is all of a sudden
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: gonna flip the switch and become tremendously better. So what
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: they've done by doing by making this having signed Walker Little,
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: they now have a spot filled. So when you go
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: into free agency in draft next year, you can focus
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: on the interior war of the offensive line and defensive line.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Because I'm still saying big people is critical. So from
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that standpoint, it makes all the sense of the world.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: The value I think is fair. And then what really
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: made me happy is Walker Little went out and played
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a great game against against two really good pass rushers,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: and he was good in the run game, he was
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: good in the pass game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: He got beat one time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I will answered on a quick inside move. Thankfully the
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: ball is gone. Did not matter. As I said it
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: on this in the This Morning, and I've said it
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: multiple times, one of the worst thing that's ever happened
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: is all these people grating stuff and social media putting
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: videos up because a guy gets meat for one sack
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: and they think he's a bump. And I just want
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: to remind everyone listening, Walker Little and Anton Harrison will
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: get beat for sacks. That's gonna hapen. They're gonna give
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: up pressures. Everybody does, Piney Sewell, Trent Williams, Lane Johnson,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: the best tackles in this game give up pressures. They
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: get beat at times. It's the NFL. Everybody does, does
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I did, Anthony Munos did, everybody does. So you can't
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: judge a player based on one play. So he got
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: beat inside, okay, whatever, he was physical, he was physical
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: in the run game, and he had outstanding sets, and
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: he handled two really good pass rushers.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: And and I'm gonna I'm gonna agree with you, Tony
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: on that he was really good on Sunday.
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: And I'm gonna agree with you that the deal is fair.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: But you can also spin it the other way.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: And you say you're paying essentially a backup because that's
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: what he's been starter money, Pete.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: That's why I thought the timing was interesting. Let him,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: let him put together three more games, and then with
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: two or three games left, go get the deal done right.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: And he even he even said he was surprised about it.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: And here's a team, here's a team, by the way,
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: that always says they don't do deals during the season.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Well, that's what we were told last year with Josh
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: heines Allen. Why it didn't get done.
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: And if they had done the deal during the season,
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: he would have they would have paid saved some money
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: by doing the deal during the season.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I think they would have saved significant money if they
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: would have done so.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Now now you can look at it from that stamp point.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: They wait, they they didn't do it with Josh heines Allen,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: and it cost him a boatload of money.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: So ultimately that was a mistake. And now you're rushing
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: to give a guy who says twenty two starts as
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: a backup starter money. That's starting that's quality starter money.
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: That's a great starter money quality, So it makes and
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: and by the way, who did the deal, who did
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: the deal, who rushed to.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Do the deal?
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I know my theory on it, I don't know. I
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: assumed Trent because he's the GM, so I assume.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: And if your Trent and you drafted him, doesn't that
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: make you look better if you're rewarding a guy you
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: drafted that contract.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to speculate on the you can't speculate
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to get into that. I will say this,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I agree with Pete on the timing. I thought it
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: was curious. I was shocked because I thought it was
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: a policy of Trent Balky that he does not negotiate
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: deals during the season with players. I'm not.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I have no problem with the like negotiating or not negotia.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I have like, no real strong opinion either way. I'm
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: just saying that's what was stated, and so that surprised me.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: But I'll say this, Pete right, fifteen million dollars quality starter.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I actually think Walker Little will be a quality long
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: term starter. I think I think at the in the
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: middle of year two of this deal, we're gonna look
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: around and say, man, we got a good deal. We
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: gotta But.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Again, why not wait until the end of the season.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, Pete. I don't the timing. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: don't understand next week.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: By next week you might change your tune.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think I will. But I know what you're saying.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: It has.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You know, bad football.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: Left a lot of football. I don't know why the rush.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: That's why that's why I come into play and throw
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: out my theories out there.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Here's the other part of that equation, Tony, If Trent
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: did the deal, does that mean he's stay.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about Mason Smith in that next segment,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: because we'll come back in a moment.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We got to get to Mason Smith finally out there
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and playing defense. We got a whole another hour too.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, Tony, got a lot going on here.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: I can't get away forever. Got a lot, a lot happening,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: A lot happened. Two and ten football team.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Just bad, bad football, just bad, so bad.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Plenty ahead. Shag Wars Happy Hour presented by jenhome Loans.
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: Super excited about it. I love Jacksonville. I love this
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: I love this team, of the group of guys, all
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: the people I get to come to work with every day.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: I really love the city, so I always wanted to
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: stay here. Obviously, going into a contract you this year,
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: didn't know if it would happen or not. But I
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: was really glad We're able to work something out and
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be able to be here for a few
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: more years.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Walker Little the media today on a zoom call. Welcome back,
• 43:02
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• 43:23
  Speaker 2: and Mason Smith active and playing. That was the big change,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: one of the changes on defense, I suppose yesterday.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: But the rookie out of LSU, how do you go Listen,
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: He's a big, powerful dude and he's not moved easily.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: He works down the line of scrimmage well, used his
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: hands well, is the ability to push the pocket. I'm
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: not saying that was the best part of his game yesterday,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: but he is. I can see what they love about
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: him and the potential there. The question is can he
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: put it together week in week out and can he
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: mature to learn to be a pro because if he can,
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: there's a chance to be a heck of a player.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, here's the tools.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: That's a powerful man, very.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Powerful, and he did some really nice things in the game.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: I was impressed and watching the tape. I came away impressed.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: I look, does he have does he have the tools
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: to like the disengage yet?
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Probably not, you know, the hands and all that, but man, Tony,
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: he got into some of those guys and pushed them
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: and pushed them around. And those are I mean, it
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: was some powerful guys he was pushing around. And that
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: one player put out on Twitter in the Run Game
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: that was I think Titus Howell was Yeah, and he
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: just mauled them and came down the line. And there
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: were other plays in the Run Game where he made
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: some plays and he pushed the pocket a little bit
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: in the past protection. I like what I saw from him.
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: I was pleasantly surprised and plays the game with power
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: that they don't normally have inside.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: And that's why I was really impressed with him.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, and I mean we need that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, you draft a guy in the second round,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: he needs to be a starter and an impactful starter
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: on your team. I'm not saying his rookie year, but
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: like next year, he needs to be like one of
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the he needs to be the dude.
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: And and if he's the dude, and if he's the dude,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: that means three of.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: The four spots you have, dudes, and and that you know,
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: one thing I did notice they did change you notice
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: is to Tony they played a lot of five man
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: fronts on.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: They really almost went back to their three to four
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: with Travon and uh Josh Allen standing up and they
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: brought three big guys inside and.
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: They instead is at at not an end he played
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: mostly a.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Tackle it earlier more early.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, there were some changes on that, you know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: that's their internal changes that they decided to make.
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: I guess, And and granted I I still think alan
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: and and Walker are better with their hands on the
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: ground in a four man front, would you agree, Yes,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I do so, But at of necessity, I think they
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: went to what they did on Sunday.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: And and they wanted it clearly. They wanted to stop
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: the run. I mean, they wanted to stop mixing. That's
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: what they wanted to do.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and they early they did a great job. Yeah,
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: but as the game, as the game went on, they
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: got worn down and he had he popped some big
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: ones and impactful ones and ended up getting over one
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: hundred yards. They only gave up one oh seven on
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: the ground four point three eight carry.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: But he got most of that late in the game.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, most of the fourth quarter.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: We've got to come back. Hour one in the books,
• 46:49
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• 46:59
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• 47:06
  Speaker 4: M m.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: M.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I gave them. I didn't meet with them today.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: I gave them, gave them. All they had to do
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: today was the facing, come in and get their lips
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: treatment and all that kind of stuff. I didn't meet
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: with them today. I won't meet with them tomorrow. Seeing
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: my Wednesday. Just want them to kind of, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: clear their heads of this one and and really let's
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: focus on focus on you know, Tennessee this week and
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and these next five. But I'll say this after the game.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's a it's a locker room. That's you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: they're they're hurting, they're disappointed, frustrated, they're scratching their heads
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: like like we all are trying to figure this thing out.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: But it's a resilient group too. You know, they'll bounce
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: back on Wednesday. They'll they'll prepare, you know for Tennessee.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Another division game, you know, on the road, all that stuff,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: and they'll bounce back. So, you know, a couple of
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: days here to kind of think about it, put it
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: behind us and move forward.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I said coach Doug Peterson earlier today. Welcome back, second
• 48:07
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• 48:10
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• 48:13
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• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. After
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: a Jaguars loss, fifth now in a row for the Jags,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: this one a twenty three twenty defeat to the Houston Texans.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: The Texans have won now ten of the last eleven
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: road games against.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: The Jaguars, including one of those.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: We're on.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: We're on to Tennessee. I get it.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Jaguars eliminated from division title contention with yesterday's loss, they
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: would be officially eliminated from any postseason contention with the
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Broncos win tonight. Trevor Lawrence is in the concussion protocol
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: after a nasty hit from Texans linebacker a zi's al Shair,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: who has since apologized, at least to a post.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: We'll see what the league thinks about it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I got tackle Walker Little extended prior to yesterday's game,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: and how five games ago, three in the division, including
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: this week's trip to Nashville to face the Tennessee Titans.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Here we are two and ten.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: That hurts. It does doesn't feel good, Pete.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: No, it's it's not a good team.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: They've had a lot of stuff go on this year
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: and and let's be real, changes are coming. Just a
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: matter of what changes are coming, you know, And Tony,
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: in watching the tape, you mentioned that Walker Little played well.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: I thought Anton Harrison did a nice job at right tackling.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: I did too, And and you know across the board
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: there was protection and the run game. Mitch Morris had
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: a rough goal of at the run game. He did
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: not play well in the run game. He good in
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: pass protection, but he wasn't good in the run game.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Would you agree with me?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yes? I thought the Jags overall struggled. I mean, they
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: had the one after Trevor got hit where they that
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: was all runs, that one mowing them down. But come on,
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: mowing them down. They're four or five until they didn't.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: They got like there was like okay, fair enough. There
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: was like four or five plays in a row where
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: they were getting you know, four or five six a pop,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: and then it stopped. Yeah where did that go? They
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: last that drive?
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: And again the center wasn't good in the run game.
• 50:29
  Speaker 6: And again that goes back to something that's been a
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: problem for them for a couple of years. And he's
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: been good in past protecting. I haven't been great in
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: the run game last month. And you wonder if he's
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: coming back. I mean, I haven't been told or anything,
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: but you know, you know we talk about the right
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: guard in the center that those guys who knows if
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: they're coming, they're they're veterans.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: You never know.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, our backs had twenty carries for seventy four yards.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: It's not good.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: No, it's not enough.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: There is a couple of things on that offense that
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: are optimistic.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: Though. Brian Thomas going to be a superstar.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, he will be.
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: He will be. He will be. So you think he's
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: a true Yes, he's a chase Yes, yes, I do.
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: Why, Well, he can run a he can. His hands
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: are outstand by the way. I know he's had a
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: couple of drugs. Going up and making that play in
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: the end zone was great play. He caught the one
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: on the sideline. He was I mean, he wouldn't get
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: his feet in, but he made a great play on that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: But he gets open and he can run. I mean
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: the crosser, he ran away from everybody.
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: That's the kind of play that they hadn't that was
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: new to their playbook in a certain part of it
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: was a man and man situation.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: Had a pick came across. Boom loved it.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: They gotta get him the football more, and I think
• 51:48
  Speaker 6: they made a concerted effort to do that.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: He's going to be a superstar. Parker Washington can run
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: routes that might be one of the most improved route
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: runners in this league over the course of year. Won
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: the year two.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: And he's outstanding after the catch running the ball because
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: he's physical. He's not fast, he's physical and he's elusive.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: What did he end up with yesterday, because he.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: Had he had over one hundred I got it right here.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: He had Parker washing six for one oh three seventeen
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: yards of catch, one touchdown.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: But he left some out there. He had twelve targets
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: in the game. Touchdown, left corner couldn't make the catch.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: It was too high, left corner, was it?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah? That was yeah, that was too high.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like right here. No, that was.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: A bad throw, BA throw. Okay, he could have been
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: gumby and he wasn't catching.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: No, you can't put that on him all right, anyway,
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: but six didn't get caught. That's my point.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: But I love the here's the thing, you're tough. If
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: Christian Kirk hadn't been hurt, they probably would have traded.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Him, Little Christian.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, there was rumors that they were going to trade him.
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: And if now the way Parker Washington is playing, they're
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: basically the same kind of guy.
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: Do you need both of them?
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: Uh? I know which one's less expensive? Of course, of
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: course I'll say this. I don't think that's a priority
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: as you think about how you're gonna how you need
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: to build it. H When I say a prior priority decision,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's like get a receiver right.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: Or go out and get a pass catcher because you
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: don't need any You don't need any of them.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: No, this team needs more speed on defense, and they
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: need more big people, man, I mean that's what they need.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: You need another corner.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's the fun. The interesting thing is there was
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: all the talk this offseason, preseason, how the safeties were
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: positioned to strength. Oh yeah, Cisco going into a contract.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Cisco got PONEO. Johnson's gonna play and step up finally and.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Cisco got pinched and he g They put him back
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: in because of injury because on the on.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: The Savage got hurt.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Savage ye. On the deep ball, Uh well, Jarry and
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Jones got kicked out, so now Savage had to play
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Nickels right, but.
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: He also got it digged up in the game too.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But before that, that's when Cisco came back in
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: because you had to put you had to put Savage
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: at Nickel. Yeah, on the deep one that c J.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Stroud was late to tank Dell where he had run
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: by everybody.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he jumped underneath.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: It was because he jumped underneath. He has middle, he
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: has middle third.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: Right, he jumped. He jumped.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: He jumped that route like I'm gonna go get an
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: interception because he looked he stared that way first, and
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: then he jumped that thing and then wide open in
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: the middle of the field and.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: You could see Darby just going, what in the heck
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: are you doing? And he got pulled.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: And he's had a bad year.
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: Let's be real, yea for a contract year for a
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: guy who was going to cash in on a contract.
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: He hadn't cashed in on it, and he's certainly not
• 55:10
  Speaker 6: going to get a contract to Jacksonville.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Well, you thought that the safety was straight. Now you're looking,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: we need safeties in her corner. You need safeties.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing about safeties, telling.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: You need you need, you need interior d lineman.
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: But here here's the thing about safeties.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: You look around the league and some of the guys
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: that are playing the best football.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Were other teams cast offs.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Pete, I agree with you, by the way. I don't
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: think like safety, you're not drafting a guy in the
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: first round or second round or anything like that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: But I mean, like watch Denver tonight. They got the
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: kid from Miami Jones. They let him go.
• 55:48
  Speaker 6: He's played really well for him. Julian Love in Seattle,
• 55:52
  Speaker 6: Giants let him go. He played really well for him.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: You know, Bayer was a failure in Philadelphia, but he's
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: been better for Chicago. You look around the league and
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: that's you got to find one of those guys and
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: then maybe draft one in the fifth rifts.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: Get lucky and get a playmaker in the fifth or
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: sixth round.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Well, and you hope Antionio Johnson can develop. Right, he's
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: still young. Because he's a young guy, he's got athletic I.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: Don't know if he's got the instincts for.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: That though, and he might not be. I don't know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: but maybe he plays more down the stretch. I don't know.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: But you can find a guy in the fifth or
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: sixth you know, you look around like the Mustapha kid
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: that the forty nine ers found, that a wake forest
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: in the in the fifth round.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, you can find guys.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: So you get a veteran, you get him, but you
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: can fix that position the corner they need. They need
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: an athletic corner in the worst way. I mean Darby
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: and worked, they need an athletic corner.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: If you can get a like an elite, whether you draft,
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: you're not gonna draft. I wouldn't draft in the first round,
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: but you can maybe you could do.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: But if you get one of those guys, pair him
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: with Campbell and Jerry Jones playing the nickel. Then you
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: have a nice young nucleus of guys.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, I got I got a draft question for him.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: No, no, don't do it, Tony.
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Don't do it. I got him.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: It was like I saw a coup.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: Of a mile away.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: You fell right into it.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not This isn't about whether we picked this person
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: or that. It's a question I'm asking Pete because I
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: need to be prepared for next week when we are
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: talking draft. So this is not us picking this individual
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: or not.
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: It's just it's just in a group. Any team, yeah,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: any team.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Is Travis Hunter a corner or wide receiver in the league.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: I think he's a corner. Okay, I think he's a
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: corner who can play wide receive.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Is he an elite corner?
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: He's pretty darn good.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm not saying he's not. I just I haven't
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: watched him enough.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: But and I'm gonna put a big butt on this.
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: They can't you Jacksonville or the Giants or whoever could
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: not take him in that spot and number one?
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: No, no, no again, go back to the Theory or
• 58:10
  Speaker 5: New England even if they had.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: The number pick or whoever, you you you need to
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: get big guys. Come on, you need to get the
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: new England. They need offensive Lineman's.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Not a new offensive line draft Pete.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: No, I know, but that's gonna gonna It's gonna challenge
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: your scouting department. And I'm gonna go to the Vikings.
• 58:30
  Speaker 6: Christian Darresol went in the twenties. Christian Darasol is the
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: Vikings are a different team. When Christian Darasol is not
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: on the field. You need to you need to challenge
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: your scouting department to find that guy.
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: That's what you need to do.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: You know, you go back to that draft Slater good,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: good left tackle, you get you have to.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Hey, the Eagles found my lotta didn't they?
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: You got you not? I agree with you. I was
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: really curious about Travis Hunter because I hear so much
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: about him and I see highlights of him, and he's obvious,
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: see a special athlete. I assume he can run like
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: the wind.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: He's special. He's a special player. But but Tony, Okay,
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: now that Jacksonville we are talking a little bit about
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: the jet But now that Jacksonville is signed Walker Little.
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: And they're not going to draft the tackle in the
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: first round. No, so that takes that completely out of
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: the book. You're not going to take a guard in
• 59:22
  Speaker 6: the first round, well.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Not with the not with the you know, top five pick,
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: you're not.
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: Of course, so that takes that out of the equation.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: So now you're not. Now you're not drafted a big
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: guy in the first round.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Is there any dominant defensive lineman out there in this draft?
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Well, the kid from Michigan I think is great, Mason Graham.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Is that fifty five? Yes, yeah, good player, but.
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: He's only like I think he's only like sixty two
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: or six three. But that doesn't matter. That kid is
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: going to be a big time player. But can you
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: take him number one overall?
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: If you had that? No more. But that's what they
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: have to find.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Fine, because if is there any quarterbacks people want? Are
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: clamoring to get corners?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: No?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: Quarter Yeah you might, you might be able to work
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 6: out of that. If you're number one, you can work
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: down and let somebody go up and gets your door
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: Sanders or cam Ward or somebody else.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: How about the kid from Old miss Is he a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: top Jackson Dart? Yeah?
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, the kid I haven't.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Watched any I mean I watched USC and the kid
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: at the kid at.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: We should watch Arizona State. They're in the championship game,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: the kid and by the way, JP.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 5: If AFU wins their their playoff game, they're a conference
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 5: championship game. Next week they'll be in and Alabama will
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: be home watching. Just let you know.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: But no, the quarterback from Mandarin, Carson Beck went into
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: the years the number one overall guy and kind of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: played himself.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Out of it a little.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so last question on this and then we can
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: please move forward. Yeah, I'm just curious.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I'm you broke your.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Own rule, man, I mean, I'm actually stunned by this.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's six hours from now, it'll be it's
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: a moot point.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying who were picking. I'm trying to prepare
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: for next week. So I understand the big question to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: me is because it's so last question on Travis Hunter.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm fascinated by this guy. Fascinated. He's amazing the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: condition and like the will to be out there in
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: a in an era where guys are getting substituted right
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: and left. This guy goes every snap and he's like good.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: So is he as good as Sauce Gardener coming out
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: at corner, because you remember here we took Tray Vaughn
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: and then the Lions took.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Hutchinsonson Sauce one four?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Was it three or four?
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: I thought he went four.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, he's early top five.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you could trade down and get and take like
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: Hunter is he?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: That is the satuation. You get Hunter and you play
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: him a corner. You could use him as a wide receiver.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying, is he's as good as Sauce as
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: a prospect coming out?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: Is he as good as watch his tape. I've just
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: watched his games, but watching his games.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: And I would say, yes, Okay, he tackles better than
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: saw Scar Sauce Scarterer doesn't tackle anybody.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I like about that kid
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: from what I've seen and watched his interviews and the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: fact that he plays every snap. He's a competitor, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: I think one of the things, regardless of you know,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: all good and great players having competitive drive that's off
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: the charts. There's like an internal thing that they want
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: to be great, they want to win, and I just
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: don't I've never met the kid, I've seen interviews, but
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: the fact that he does what he does tells me
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: he is a ultimate competitor.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: And you can never taking themselves out of the offensive
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: line market in the draft.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: They just have so that I that I disagree with that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: I disagree with that.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: What do you mean it takes them out of the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: tackle market.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, in the first round, right, they draft? Last year they.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: Did foster, so it takes them out of it takes
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: them in the first round or first two rounds. It
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: takes them out of the tackle market.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Not the tackle market. But I listen, would you be
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: against loading up on centers and guards and DT's in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: the first three rounds?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: No, no, I would not neither. But defensive tackle has
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: to be at play too.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Let the record reflect that this Monday, December second, was
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: when we started talking about the draft and the Jaguars.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Are not eliminated yet and it wasn't my decision.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 6: For the record, Well, they technically will be by tonight,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: so it's the same day, the same day they aren't.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: Right now, In my defense, we did not talk about
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars and who they should pick. You literally just
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: did No, I did not.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: You just talked about are they in the tackle market?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, yeah, they are like, yeah, what.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, I broke the role there. I was curious about
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Travis hun.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: I tricked them, and you know what, the fans are
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: thrilled that we did. So thank me, fans. I got
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 6: them to talk about the draft.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: We've got a rating spike there is that what we
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: were saying, Pete.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 6: Way through the roof. That's why people don't care about
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: next week's game. They care about the draft.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: Well, let's come back and talk about next week's games
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: and the five remaining. We'll keep it real when we return,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: because it's been fake for an hour and seventeen minutes for.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: A long time, for years.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: In fact, mister Chubby's Wings, we had the Chicken Caesar rap,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: we had the Chubby style wings, we had French fries
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and cheese sauce, and it was fantastic. Thanks to mister
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Chubby's Wings. Each and every Monday for the food options
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: for our production staff. It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: mister Chubby's Wings.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it was just it was a dirty hit.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 10: I think obviously those hits always in question. Travel was
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 10: going down and it's just I saw out on my peripheral.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 10: I got a pretty clear view of it, and at
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: that moment, just instinct was just it just didn't feel
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 10: like a clean hit, so he just go stick off
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: from my quarterback.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Devin Ingram Jaguars tight end in the locker room after
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: the game and welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Tony Bisselli, Pete Frisco. Time now for Keeping it Real,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: presented by Nobody, and the Jaguars have five games remaining
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: in the regular year. They have been eliminated from division
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: title contention, and a Denver Broncos win tonight would eliminate
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: them from any playoff contention. With five games to go
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: three in the division, what is a general approach moving
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: ahead over the last five games?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: They how do they keep this thing together and move forward?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: Pete, Well, if you lose all five, you have the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: number one overall picks and so that's a big win
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: for him.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: No, I'm kidding, you play to win.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: No, the best case scenario and I'm gonna be real
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: about it. The best case scenario is young players like
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: Mason Smith and you know those kind of players go
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: in and play well down the stretch and get the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 6: experience and get some on the field experience that they need,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: and you still lose the games, that's the.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: Best case scenario. Then you can't talk to me until
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: you're blue in the face about winning games and feeling good.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: And the best case scenario from a fans perspective and
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: from the organization's perspective, they would never admit that is
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: if you get young players playing well and playing better
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: and yet still lose the games.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: Do you think they lose all five?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Well, it's tennis. Give me the schedule again.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: It's Tennessee, Tennessee, Jets, Jets, Raiders, Raiders, Tennessee and Indy.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: No, I don't because I think I think the Jets
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: are horrendous. I mean, the Jets had kickoff return for
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 6: a touchdown, they lost minute lost, No, no, they had
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 6: a kickoff return for a touchdown. Two fumbled kickoffs by
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 6: Leviscas Chanol by the way, and set them up point
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: playing range. They had a twenty one to seven lead,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: we're going in to make it twenty eight to seven,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 6: and Aaron Rodgers to a pick six to Leonard Williams.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: And so they're not very good right now, and they're
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: not playing for anything, So I think they might beat
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: the Jets.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: That's one because I don't see the Giants win in
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: another game.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: Pete. They're pretty bad, aren't they. Yeah, they're bad, So yeah,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: you might be right.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 6: But then the Giants that wouldn't really impact the Jacksonville.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: But because the Giants will take a quarterback, Jacksonville will not.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: So if you're at number two, you can still trade
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: that pick to somebody else who wants to go get
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: one of the other quarterbacks.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Well, the Raiders need a quarterback, they need a quarterback,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: but they're better with Aiden O'Connell and I think they
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: win a game or two.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: Right, So so Jacksonville could end up still number two.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: Even if you win one. They'll win one. They'll win one.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: They might win two, but they'll win one.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Jack's Raiders head to head, by the way, coming up,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: this could be impactful.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: I know you kill I know you kill me when
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: I say stuff like that, But the reality is that's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: that's that's the way it is, and and no game,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: winning a game down the stretch just carrying over.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: It's not gonna give you good feelings because.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: It's probably going to be an entirely new group and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: so nothing will carry over, zero, none of it so
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. But players getting experience and playing and
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: growing that will carry over.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Pete, they if they were to lose them and get
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the number one pick, they'd be the first team ever
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: with three number one overall picks in a five year span.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, you could put that on a billboard
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: or put it on a plane and fly it over
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: the city and you still might not have a change.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, come on, are we serious?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: Could you think about that? You could pick first overall
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: three of the last five years.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it never happens.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: It screams disaster.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: It's never happened.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: There's a reason.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: It's never happened. Usually when you get them, you do
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: something with them, and your team changes its fortunes. Come on,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: but let's give the backup left tackle a new deal
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: and make it look good because I drafted him.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't say that.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: The interesting thing is that I remember at the beginning
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: the year, we were talking about these last five games
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: like the winnable.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is the back end, and it's the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: second easiest strength to schedule over the last six weeks
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: of the season, by the way, in the NFL.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: But I watched the Titans on tape last week. That's
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: a good defense.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: They were bad yesterday, though we weren't good yesterday. They
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 5: weren't good yesterday, and but they turned.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: They fumbled the ball twice once Pollard fumbled a point
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: blank range and then they fumbled the kickoff and that
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: lended fourteen. But you know how that can get away
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: from you a little bit, But that they weren't great yesterday.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: The little bit of tape I've watched that Texas kids sweat.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: My goodness, he's a big, powerful him and Jeffrey Simmons
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: on the interior. That d Lion's like nasty. Got your
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: hands full, Tody.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: Somebody when I was there, somebody told me a story
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: about him. You know he was They want him about
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: like three fifty ish or whatever, three forty five ish,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: and so during the off season they had him, got
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: him a dietitian because he was up near three to
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: seveny or whatever. He got a dietitian and he was
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: doing well, and they watched him walking out. One of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: the guys bumped in and he said, what do you do?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: And he had like eight gator rades, not the sugar
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: free kinie, the regular kind with his little Dietitian meal
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: and he was taking it home and they go, well,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: kind of defeats the purpose.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Of you eating the meal like that when you're drinking
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: eight of those and I just full of sugar. Yeah.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: So but he is a good player, and you know
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: Simmons is a good player. Narden Kee can rush the passer.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: And Harold what's that Harold Bandry.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: The problem is the back end has been you know,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: Sneed's been hurt. One good all year and then got hurt.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: He's out, and they haven't been great on the back
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: end and they give up a lot of big plays.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: Levice has gotten a lot better the last four weeks
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: he's been.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: Actually, I watched the tape of him against the Texans
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: the last the week before.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he threw the one pick six was a terrible throw,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: but other than that, he was pretty good.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: He made some throws.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: I was like, he got beat the death in that game.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: He did, but he made some great throws. So, I mean,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: my whole point is when you're two and ten, none
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: of them are easy. The texts and then the Titans
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: have a strong front seven physical, It's gonna be a
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: good test. Will Levis is playing better.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: And Mac Jones is playing, probably playing.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Probably and the last game of the other culture gonna
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: be playing for the wildcard most likely.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: We'll know next We'll know next week because they play
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: at Denver.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: If they beat the Broncos, they're in it. I mean
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: they're right now.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: If they beat the Broncos. If they beat the Broncos,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: their schedule is favorable, they might beat be the wildcard team.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: But so but here, Look.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: The bottom line is they might win Anny, but they
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 6: could win one or two.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: Wow do you shut down Trevor.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: So that was part of the conversation today during the
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: press conference for Doug Peterson. As we mentioned before, he said, Hey,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: we'll let him get through the protocol. We'll see where
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the team's at. Make a decision. You want to. You
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: still have some have something to fight for, but you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: gotta have long term look.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: At his health as well. So here's I mean. For me,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: it's pretty simple. The concussion's gonna take whatever time it does.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: I had to be shocked if he plays this week.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: Me too, I mean absolutely shocked based on how his
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: body responded at the moment of the concussion. So I'd
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: be shocked. So does anything change if you beat the Titans,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, and he's ready to play.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 6: But here's the other part of that equation, Tony. You
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: probably he proved to a lot of people, and not
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: that he has to prove to anybody outside of the building,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 6: but he proved to his teammates that he cares and
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: he wants to play by playing last week, by going
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: in there and playing. Look, the shoulder isn't the throwing shoulder,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: but the pain has to be brutal on that and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: so he could have easily just said no, I'm gonna
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 6: shut it down. But I think he decided to play
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: in large part to show his teammates, Look, this is
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: what I care for you guys, and I want to
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: show you that.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: I can tough this out. And sometimes to a fault,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: he does that, but he did it. Now that he
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: did that and showed them, Now shut him down. Now
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: shut him down.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: Concussion shoulder. Maybe he needs some clean up surgery on
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: the shoulder. Get it done, do it. Shut him down.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: There's no reason he plays the rest of the year.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: Zero.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: He got a quarter of a billion dollars invested in
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: that guy. You're gonna build the entire thing around him.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: Shut him the hell down. Enough done, don't play anymore?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Does it?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 5: Pet?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Is it concerning? This is back to back years of
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: injuries for Trevor. That's forcing them miss time.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: Yes, Whenever anybody has And I'm gonna use Christian McCaffrey
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: as example, he had a pattern of injuries.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: With guys, they start getting concerned.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: Christian McCaffrey's been hurt like a bunch in his career
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: and now he's hurt again. And so when you see
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: patterns like that, there's no doubt it's concerning.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: So Yes, to answer your question, it is. And and
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: the concussion I forgot that.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: There was one last year and now that's two years
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: in a row and this one one. Yes, but the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: fencing showed up and that means it's it's accelerated a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: little bit.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: So that is concerning. Yes. Absolutely. By the way, he
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: wasn't playing very well before he got knocked out of
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 6: Oh he was rusty and you could see it, and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: he and Tony there was a play I think where
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 6: he left a clean pocket where he had Brian Thomas
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: wide open and he didn't throw it to him, and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 6: you could see Thomas like kind of jump up and down.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: Did you see his body?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 6: Brian Thomas has a tendency like all receivers to they're
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 6: open every play, but he shows it a little bit,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 6: which I don't mind, but he does show it sometimes.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: You gotta be careful with that. You don't want to
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: show up your quarterback. But you remember the play I'm
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 6: talking about. He was and he left. There was nobody
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: really rushing him, and he bailed. He bailed to the left.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: Now on the play where he got hit and hurt,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 6: there was nobody open on that play.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: He got out of there because he had to get
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: out of there.
• 1:16:43
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• 1:17:21
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  Speaker 3: Tony, you look excited about that I don't care, clearly no,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying about cyber Monday.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, Pete, did you buy anything today?
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: No? I did not.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: No you no.
• 1:18:38
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• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: My wife. You bought something, you just don't know it.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I bottled a bunch of stuff.
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• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Can we talk about the draft now? Well? I think
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: we just did well.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: They were clamoring for it.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: Hold on, we did not go deep draft talk. We
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: did a teaser, which is talking about the draft. No,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: it was a teaser. I was trying to get information.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I didn't because Pete brought up the need for a
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: corner and I had a question about college football player.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: You got hoodwinked, and to talk about that is what happened.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: I got him, I got him, might he might have
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: got me. And you know what's even better about it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: is how mad JP got about it.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: You set out, you set out the text this morning.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: What was my first response.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: To you draft?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: I said one word, like come on, we're too intent dude,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: I'm aware, but they're not officially eliminated.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Well who made that damn rule? Anyways, Well you broke it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: You broke your own Russ. That's what I'm more mad
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: about it. You broke when I made the rule. I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: never imagined in a thousand years we'd be too inten.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: What And and this time last year they weren't good,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: but they were in the ra mix.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Yes they were.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: The last time they've been out of the race is
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 6: what two thousand and.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: One?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, they were out of the race in nineteen
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: twenty and twenty one, eighteen, nineteen twenty twenty one.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, they've been out of the race more than in
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: the race.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: Well in their history too, Yes.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: Recently, somebody sent me a stat the other day.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: By the way, buddy of mine sent me a thing
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: saying Jacksonville's never won a Week thirteen game in their history.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: Is that true?
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: I have no idea, No, I guarantee that's not true.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Because in ninety nine we lost Week two and Week fifteen.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: I thought that fightings game was later, yeah.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: Week fifteen, because it was we traveled on Christmas Day,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: it was the twenty sixth in Nashville.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it was week sixteen.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, bye, we're sixteen fifteenth of the seasons.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: That can't be true. Can't be true.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: It's not true jag Wars beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: week thirteen that year, twenty to six.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's not true that on the internet it.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Must be true. Yeah right, you got a fast text stuff.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 5: Well I didn't. I just I said, somebody sent that
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 5: to me. I didn't go look it up.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: You brought it on the air like it like you
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: knew it was real.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: I said, somebody sent it to me. Is this is true?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: I said, I didn't say it was real.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: Somebody's wrong. Somebody's wrong.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: They are wrong.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Next question at totally Chad.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: How would Tony have reacted to the hit on Trevor
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: had he been on the team.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: Probably the same way Evan Ingram would have.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, you might have been more violent.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the only thing I yeah, I
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: think I would have done. I mean, I guess this
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: is go watch the tape when any time, like.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: What's the classic photo you in like four ratements on.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Something, Let's go look at that. I mean so I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: would have lost my mind. Probably got thrown thrown out
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: of the game well, because I never finished the story.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: So I got thrown out that game with Baltimore and
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: I'm walking and Jerry Palm, Mary's strength coach at the time.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: He's walking me to the locker room. And as I'm
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: like halfway to the locker room, I hear Tom screaming
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: at me get back in the game. And I said,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: they threw me out. He says, no, no, no they didn't.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: They reinstated You're back in. I'm like, okay, So I
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: went back in finished the game.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Are you like?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: Two or three years later, I see the official and
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: I said, hey, well, first he comes up, he goes, hey, thanks.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: I go what He goes, you tore my labrom I'd
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: have surgery Barbarian trying to break up the fight. And
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: I said, dude, I'm sorry, my bad. He laughed, and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: I said I got.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: A question for you.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: I said, you guys threw me out and then you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: brought me back in and he says yeah. He says
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: it was a late game. It was four o'clock game,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: and the we and if we throw someone out, there's
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: a bunch of paperwork we have to do afterwards, and
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: we would have missed the last flight out of Jacksonville.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know if.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: That's true or not, but I would go.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 5: Did you and him compare toward Labram stories? No, I don't.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: I can't remember who it was because.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: You tore both yours, didn't you.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have been making it up, just making
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  Speaker 3: a funny story. It's a funny story. I don't know
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: if it's true that, but I always wondered, Mike, how
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: do how do you get uninjected?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 6: But Tony would have hit him that guy. You would
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: have put your full body all. You would have nailed
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: him in that scenario.
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  Speaker 3: I would have done the same thing Evan did when
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: he took the shot first. But then I would would
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: have got I would have gone on the ground and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: for him in the back of the head. And I'm
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: thrown out. There's no doubt about it. I mean, I
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: know me. Yeah, I mean, plus, we can do things
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: back when I played that will get you thrown out today.
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  Speaker 5: Well, also that forum would have got you thrown out
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 5: that he gave to Trevor either back twelve years.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: That would have been just It would have been a
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: personal foul.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. One of the guys.
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  Speaker 6: After that hit Sunday, one of my producers called up.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: We were sitting in there watching the game. One of
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: my guys called up, he goes, remember that old segment
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: they used to do, jacked up. They showed one where
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: one of the Chiefs quarterbacks got green.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: It wasn't greed, it was another time. It was a legal,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: dirty hit and the guy was exact same situation that
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Trevor was in where he fenced. You know, and nowadays,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: did you, Matt, You.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Couldn't put that on there and start screaming about what
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: a great hit it was.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: You can't do that anymore.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean here, I mean, the game is so different.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: Mike Singletary got the hit of the year on the
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: exact same I thought. Now again, I don't know if
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: this is true or not, but it was on X
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: they showed a video of him taking the same s
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 3: and just blowing up a quarterback, I mean, just knocking
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: them out.
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  Speaker 5: The game is different.
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  Speaker 3: It's so different.
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  Speaker 6: I remember Mike Singletary played. It was different than it
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: was twenty years ago. Before it was it was even worse.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: It was so I remember, no someone said it was
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: Dan or Jeff this morning. They said, that's the most violent,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: nasty hit, cheap shot we've seen. I said, are you crazy?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: That was commonplace back in the day.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: Did you forget about James Harrison almost killing Colt McCoy,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: like literally almost killed.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: Them, which which one of the guys on your team
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: took Keenan out with the dirty hit, greg Lloyd.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: Gregor lay Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, that start.
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  Speaker 5: Remember that story? You remember that story.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I do remember that story. I started a little little
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: uh well, pushing and shoving.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Keith it remember he said Keenan called his house
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: during the week and said stuff to this. Could you
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: imagine could you imagine if that.
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  Speaker 5: That would be viral? It would be everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, I'm gonna say something's probably controversial, but what the heck?
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: I agree with the player safety stuff. It's smart. It's
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: a tough game, and what the league is doing trying
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: to take the head out protect both defenders and offensive
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: players from unnecessary ridiculous injuries and head injuries and what
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: we know about brain injuries today. Like, I get it,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: it's smart, but I'd be lying to you if I
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: didn't miss the game. How I played it. It was
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: just it was a different game. I'm not saying better,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: but maybe it's just because that's when I played. But
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: you could do things like you talk about retribution. You
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: could really get retribution back then, and you got it.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: You could start a fight knowing the worst thing that
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: was gonna happened is you're gonna get offsetting fifteen yard penalty. Player, like,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: I remember that there was a play. You remember we
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: played Pittsburgh once and uh like Levon Kirkland took a
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: shot of Mark late in the out of bounds and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: I ran over there and hit him, and the fight starts,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: and all the officials did just break it up and say, hey,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: come down, guys, right back to them, go back to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: the hut.
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  Speaker 5: Would you award the Guardian cap?
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: No, no, nope, Pete, I didn't barely like to wear
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: shoulder pads.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: I played.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 5: I know you had little shoulder pads. I always remember that.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: So but and that was not Listen, this is not
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I want to be careful here because the guys today
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: are tough as nails. So this isn't a toughness.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 5: This is no, it's not a toughness.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: It's not a toughness.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: Guys would have been like you, guys, these guys wouldn't.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Played the same way I played. And if I played
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: in today's game, I'd be doing the same thing they're doing,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: because it's the it's the rules of the game, and
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: you play in the air that you play in and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: it was it was nastier before I played generation before me.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: And so this is not about toughness. I want to
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: be clear. And sometimes guys here like people hear us
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: old guys talking. Oh man, if they playing, they'd be
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: they be so much tougher than these guys. No, no, no, no,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: let me tell you what. Brandon Shaff tough guy, having
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: Ingram tough guy.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, players are still tough.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: JP he'd still be butchering names if he had worn
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 6: the Guardian cap, right.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that has nothing to do.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: That's not fine. You with the shots to the head,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: It's not fine. There you have it.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: Fanatics fan questions her in, let's come back and go
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: around football plague. It's a pretty good one, Pete.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: I'll give you credit for that one.
• 1:28:48
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• 1:29:00
  Speaker 12: Sports very emotional, especially when something like that happens, and
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 12: we definitely came together as a team and fought hard,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 12: you know, for Trevor came up shore at the end.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 12: But I feel like the guys responded and obviously Trevor
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 12: safety is the most important we out. I feel like
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 12: we moved forward and tried to win.
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  Speaker 2: For Trevor mac Jones, Jaguars quarterback, came in relief of
• 1:29:23
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  Speaker 2: National Football League three Thanksgiving games, the Lions survived the Bears,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: and then the Bears fired their head coach twenty three
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: twenty the final and that one Cowboys beat the Giants
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty and then the Packers. I handled
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: the and the cole and apparently Miami does know how
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: to play below forty degrees thirty to seventeen. Packers win
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: that one, Pete, but the Bears ran off Ebra flues.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and rightfully so.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: I mean coaching now, practice is what he had after
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: at the end of that game.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: It was awful, but that's not it.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: Remember you go back to the Hail Mary met He
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: messed that all up as well, and the players started
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: squawking about him.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 5: It was time for him to know.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Cowboys still in it, Pete.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 6: They are still in it, and and they're you know,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: their schedule is not that tough. I mean, they have
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: a couple of tough games, but they don't look like.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: A playoff team though. I mean, you know, come on,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: let's be real.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: If Dak Prescott was in there, maybe they're getting guys back,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: but they don't look like a playoffs.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Is Mike McCarthy safe or is he going to get fired?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 5: I think he's going to get I think he's safe.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: I think he's gonna come back.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: He's a good coach. He's a good coach.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 5: He is a good coach. He should come back.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Black Friday Chiefs over the Raiders nineteen seventeen, wild ending
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: in this one too.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Wild and just the Chiefs are they're so lucky, Pete.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, good teams get luck. I mean get the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: ball bounces their way. And they're a good team. I'm
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: not taking that away from them, but my goodness, you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: talk about yeah, you talk about malpractice of just handling
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: the end of the game.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 5: The best thing that can happen to the Chiefs is
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: getting DJ Humphreys healthy and put them in a left tackle.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: And will change the way they play. They will look
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: like a different team. They cannot count he's sped up.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 6: Talk about a guy who's fed up. They cannot count
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: on that left side to protect it all.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Well, they had at one point their left guard what's
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: his name kicked out duck.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's bad.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 5: And they drafted one.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: They drafted one last year in the second round and
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: he was a failure when he went in.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Chargers beat the Falcons seventeen thirteen. I guess we'll find
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: out about the Chargers next week when they played the Chiefs.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: I think that tould be a good game because the
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Chargers are physical, they're not real big upfront. I wouldn't
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: be surprised if that's a heavy run game for the Chiefs.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: Pete.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're not big on the defensive line, but the
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: their linebackers are small too.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: But they play smart, they play tough. I think that's
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: gonna be a close ball game.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: That'll be fun. That'll be a fun game.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: Steelers now nine and three of forty four to thirty
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: eight win over the Bengals. Russell Wilson three touchdown passes
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: four to fourteen through the air, and he threw a
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: pick six in the first quarter.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the receiver slipped down on that one, so it
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: was kind of like it really wasn't his fault. But
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: the Bengals, they're like the perfect a tonic for any
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: team that's having problems throwing the football.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: They can't stop anybody.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: And Joe Burrow is having a great year. Good nothing
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: for it.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 5: Nobody wants it.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 6: Nobody would want them in the postseason either, because they
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: could get hot and he could get hot, and they
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 6: could go on a run.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: They're not making the postseason, Pete, No, they're not not
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: this way.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Four and eight right now. Vikings over the Cardinals twenty
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: three to twenty two. The Colts went for two and
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: beat the Patriots twenty five twenty four.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 6: I like it, and Anthony Richardson's getting better. He's getting better.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta give him. They sat him down,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: they had to talk with him. They told him, look first,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 6: one last, one out and that's why you got to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: live it as an NFL quarterback. And he's doing it
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: and he's gotten better. They played Denver next week. That'll
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 6: decide their their playoff feet.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be a good game too. I think yep,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: Seahawks beat the Jets. We discussed that briefly.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Commanders blasted the Titans forty two to nineteen bucks over
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: the Panthers twenty six to twenty three bucks. NFC South,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: Are they the team Pete?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: They are?
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: I think the schedule favors them, and they're getting guys healthy.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: And by the way, if they get in, they're.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: Gonna be a dangerous team. They're gonna be one.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: Of those teams that gets into the playoffs and nobody's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: gonna want to play them because they're getting guys back.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: Not only that, like Elijah Kntsey, who didn't play like
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: the first six weeks of the season.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: He's back and he's starting to become a force in
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: the middle next to Vitevea. That's tough. That's tough. To
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 5: deal with.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: And you know what, I love the story. I mean,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: here's a guy in Baker Mayfield got run out of
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Cleveland for we should not for Deshaun Watson of all people,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: went to Carolina, did his time there, signed a team
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: favorable deal with Tampa to prove it, went and won
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: the job and earned himself not a huge contract, but
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: a nice three year deal. And Pete, would a surprise
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: you if he woke up five six years from now
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: that Baker Mayfield still the franchise quarterback Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: Me neither.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 5: It wouldn't surprise.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: Again, it wouldn't surprise me to see them win the
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: Vision and become a factor in the playoffs.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: I give him a ton of credit. I get Baker
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Mayfield ten of credit. That's not easy what he went through.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: Speaking of dangerous, he wakes up feeling dangerous. Baker Mayfield.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 5: I love Baker, favorite guy. He's one of my favorite
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: guys to deal with in the league. And he's just
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 5: he just he's a dude.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: By the way, the players, everything I been told of them,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: they love them. In the building.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: Ye rams over the Saints twenty one to fourteen. Eagles
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: beat the Ravens twenty four to nineteen. Lamar's mom cussed
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: him out. He said, after the game, I didn't run.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: He didn't run enough. She thought I tend to agree
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: with her opportunities to run, and he was kind of
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: hesitanting a little bit.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you what the Eagles are exhibit a on
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: what you do when you get big guys, and not
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: just not just on the on the offensive line, because
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: that's a damn good offensive line. And by the way,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: everybody goes, oh, they've been in a good offensive line
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: for a long time. They lost their starting center who
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: was an All Pro, and they replaced him with Cam Jurgens,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: who was the right guard. And they went and got
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: a right tackle reach or left tackle Rejeck, and made
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: him a monster at right guard. And on the defensive line,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: Jalen Carter is almost unblockable at times, and Davis was
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: actually really good on Sunday. They're big on their defensive
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: and offensive lines.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: They take advantage of it.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: Pete is Jalen Carter the best three technique in football?
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: I would say yes, when he wants to be. That's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: the only caveat I got to put on.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, Pete's favorite kind of game is a snow game,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: and the Bills beat the Niners thirty five to ten.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: You went on the stupid rant on your video on CBS.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: I saw it. I wanted to comment so bad, but
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give you the time of day.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a survival test. That wasn't up ball. They're
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: skipping and sliding around. Look at playing and slow. Chris
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: Callsworth kept saying that they're playing slow. They can't even run.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 5: That's not football, it's garbage.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: So I'll say this, I enjoyed the Steeler Brown game
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: better because it wasn't that on grass. Yes, yes, and
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: so you have better traction on grass. You get on
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: that turf with that much snow, like they had no footing.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: You couldn't know, couldn't. But I still like it. That's
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: a bad It.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: Wasn't It wasn't a good football game, and it wasn't
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: fun to watch. Great.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: They had snow and they shoveled the lines and oh
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: look at the pageantry and the Bills fans shoveled.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: It's garbage.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Monday Night Football AFC Battle of Mile High Jamis Winston
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: and the browns weet Bow Knicks in the Broncos Denver
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: win eliminates the Jaguars. Who you got quickly?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Broncos.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: Broncos good defense, top defense.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: Mis hard place to play on Monday night. They haven't
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: had a game in front of fans and Myles Stadium
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: since twenty eighteen on Monday night. If it happens, we'll
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: talk draft next week.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: I'm out draft talk.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: I'mna have to dive in and do some studying before
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: next week. We're doing full draft.
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  Speaker 5: We gotta we got a little bit in today we did.
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  Speaker 2: That's Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli, m J. P. Shaddick. Thanks
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: to David, Joe, Brent Riber, Joe Fortunato, and thanks to
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: you for listening to Jaguars Happy Hour,