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Justin Time · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Hello, everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous
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  Speaker 1: After the Final Rows show. We have so much to
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  Speaker 1: break down and we're gonna do it all with the
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  Speaker 1: runner up of the hour, Justin Glaze. He's special and
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of stuff to share. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna take it easy on him. We gotta
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  Speaker 1: find out the t We gotta find out the juice.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta figure out what and the world is going
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  Speaker 1: on behind the scenes of this show this season, because
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  Speaker 1: last night was anything but it was just what Like,
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  Speaker 1: there's just nothing about it that did not shock me,
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  Speaker 1: make me confused, and also make me cringe. Do you agree,
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  Speaker 1: ash There's a lot of ups and downs. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling good, I'm feeling bad again. What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Hold up? We gotta say congratulations to Blake and Katie.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that's It was a wild episode of
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  Speaker 1: a lot of up and down, but congratulations with the couple. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: They seem very happy last night and that's something to celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: That was very That was very sweet. When he had
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  Speaker 1: the boomboxes come out, that was a nice little romantic gesture.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great way to leave off the episode
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  Speaker 1: and have us feeling really good about their relationship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was special. Jessica didn't get it. She watched Last
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  Speaker 1: Night with me for the first time this season, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: she's like kind of piqued your head and at times
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  Speaker 1: when I'm watching, but this was like your first sitting
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  Speaker 1: down with me and watched the whole thing, and so
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  Speaker 1: the boombox came out like I don't get it, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, honey, you just haven't been around enough.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we are lucky enough to get Justin
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast we haven't. You know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: you have been talking about how you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: haven't known him, a runner up that you just that
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  Speaker 1: you know, only had one one on one, didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a ton of screen time. So today you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: to know him better. So let's get Justin on the line. Justin,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you, Um, I've probably gotten a lot
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  Speaker 1: of annoying comments the past week or two about like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's obviously not Justin, like he has no chemistry, no
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  Speaker 1: connection with Katie, and you kind of brush over that
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  Speaker 1: in the live episode yesterday where you said there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that you didn't that the audience that
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  Speaker 1: didn't get to see with you and Katie. So how
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  Speaker 1: annoying has it been that you've been like this dark
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  Speaker 1: horse that nobody really believes in. Yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where like when you're in
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  Speaker 1: this environment and you know you're you're placed on a
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  Speaker 1: show like this, like you have to have thick skin
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  Speaker 1: or you're not going to survive, right, So I don't
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  Speaker 1: really listen to the noise too much. It's impossible not
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  Speaker 1: to see you to hear it, right, like it's everywhere. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it can be frustrating for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's just one of those things where like
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  Speaker 1: you literally like can't defend yourself or say anything. So
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  Speaker 1: like I would just kind of like humorously like retweet
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  Speaker 1: some of these funny memes and just kind of brush
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  Speaker 1: over it. But the whole time I'm just there, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these people aren't in the house. They don't
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  Speaker 1: know what's going on, you know, Um, they don't know
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  Speaker 1: the relationship that I had with Katie. Um, And to me,
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  Speaker 1: what matters more is what I know, Um, you know
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  Speaker 1: happened and what I felt and what Katie knows happening
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  Speaker 1: and what she felt, UM and everyone else I was watching,
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  Speaker 1: um you know, they weren't there, you know, And it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's easy to kind of um look at like
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  Speaker 1: a lack of screen time or kind of just like
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  Speaker 1: latch onto like what's funny and trending, and I get
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  Speaker 1: it and it's cool, but you're not kind of just
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  Speaker 1: sat back and and hopefully over time people can see
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  Speaker 1: UM my personality and and realize, um, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was there for a reason. So the the interesting thing
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  Speaker 1: Justin and I I saw last night, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it is like the common joke and you've obviously seen
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  Speaker 1: the memes and things like were you shocked at all
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  Speaker 1: by still being there? And if not, then why were
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  Speaker 1: you expecting to be there? What didn't we see in
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  Speaker 1: your relationship that made you confident that you could be
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  Speaker 1: there at the end. Yeah, no, no part of me
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  Speaker 1: doubt that that I would be UM there through hometowns
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  Speaker 1: um war. I did get a little skeptical. Was after
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  Speaker 1: that after you know, as I said last night, after
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  Speaker 1: Greg and Michael left, just kind of watching those relationships
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  Speaker 1: unfold and seeing um, you know, how broken Katie was
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  Speaker 1: over those Um. You know in that moment, I remember,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking to the producers and saying, hey, guys
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  Speaker 1: like I, you know, I'm a kind of torn because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm one step closer to to being with her. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, anything that I've had in life, UM, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've worked for and it's it's such much more gratifying
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  Speaker 1: when you feel like you've earned it right. And like
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  Speaker 1: I told her, it would have meant that much horse
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  Speaker 1: she handed me that rose, but I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: was there by the fault. And so I guess to
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  Speaker 1: answer your question, UM, what wasn't seeing You know, I
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  Speaker 1: saw people kind of in fun of during my hometown's
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  Speaker 1: UM one part where I said, you know, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: missing from our relationship. You know, there are there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things that were cut out that I
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  Speaker 1: was surprised, we're cut out. Um. You know, Katie and
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  Speaker 1: I UM had a constant banter back and forth. We
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  Speaker 1: we had a very similar sense to him. But we
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  Speaker 1: were always laughing, you know, on camera off camera, UM,
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  Speaker 1: keeping each other going, keeping our spirits high. Um. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the physical connection was there, Um from my wedding date.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone saw that the dry part, you know, where I
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  Speaker 1: had to like come up with these vows and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's awkward, right, Um. But there was a whole second
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  Speaker 1: part after that where we had like a honeymoon suite
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  Speaker 1: portion of the day where we can kind of just
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  Speaker 1: be fun and goofy and UM also explore like you
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  Speaker 1: know that physical side, which which um, we had a
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  Speaker 1: strong connection and that's fact as well. UM. And then
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  Speaker 1: you know we also were able to which didn't come
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  Speaker 1: into later in our relationship. UM, We're able to be
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  Speaker 1: serious and have important, meaningful conversations with each other. UM,
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  Speaker 1: some of which were aired, as you saw during the
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  Speaker 1: Nights of My Hometown with Katie shared you know, something
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  Speaker 1: very important with her family. But you know I also
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  Speaker 1: shared things about my family that that weren't aired. So
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  Speaker 1: we had that trust in that connection as well. Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: during a live show, you said that you felt like
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  Speaker 1: like you didn't get enough time. You're kind of like
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  Speaker 1: cheated out of time with her. What were you referring
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  Speaker 1: to in that moment, like you didn't get a full
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  Speaker 1: enough chance? You said, oh right, yeah, so I was
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  Speaker 1: referring to, um, the fantasy sweet day. So you would
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  Speaker 1: have wanted it even after what went down with Blake
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  Speaker 1: before you No, Um, you know, I told her it's tough, right,
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  Speaker 1: I told her that I certainly respect that she was
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  Speaker 1: honest with me and let me know how she was
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  Speaker 1: feeling and didn't waste my time, right, I guess where
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  Speaker 1: I was coming from is and and it wasn't up
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  Speaker 1: to me. But I was curious. You know, let's say
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  Speaker 1: the roles were reversed, order was switched and I had
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  Speaker 1: gone for Blake. You know, what could that whole day,
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  Speaker 1: potentially night done for us? You know, then where she
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  Speaker 1: could have had you know, Blake for the whole day,
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  Speaker 1: the whole night, and then kind of you know, see
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  Speaker 1: where each relationship was after that, because you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I asked her in that moment was, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I totally respect that, you know, and I thank you. Um.
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  Speaker 1: One question I have is, you know, was there any
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  Speaker 1: because my hometown was just a few days before that,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, you know, was there any point throughout
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  Speaker 1: this journey where you started to realize, Okay, I'm gravitating
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  Speaker 1: towards Blake And she said, no, it literally was not,
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  Speaker 1: And she told me it was not until that prior night.
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  Speaker 1: That night before, she said, I'll been til this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to go throughout this day with you. She said,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't until last night where I had that moment
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  Speaker 1: of clarity and I knew, I can see how that
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  Speaker 1: lingers are you? Yeah, so that you know, And again
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  Speaker 1: I'm the type of guy I'm like, just you know,
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  Speaker 1: shoot it to me straight and be honest, and I
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  Speaker 1: can live with that. I can take that right. And
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  Speaker 1: if she had said, you know, yeah, at a certain point,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've leaning towards you know, these relationships, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, cool, I see how I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: our relationship wasn't, you know, as strong as it you
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  Speaker 1: know needed to be. But you know, just when I
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  Speaker 1: hear that it wasn't until the night before, it just
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  Speaker 1: leaves you thinking, okay, well, you know, if if I
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  Speaker 1: went first, you know, could we have gone? And I'll
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  Speaker 1: never know, Um, but That's where I was coming from.
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  Speaker 1: We we obviously saw you pretty torn up, uh last night,
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  Speaker 1: and uh it makes sense to why but what what
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  Speaker 1: about when you're sitting in that moment with her on
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  Speaker 1: the couch. Uh, why did those emotions run deep, especially
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  Speaker 1: after kind of seeing how her Blake and Katie's relationship
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  Speaker 1: had progressed. Yes, Um, it's tough because, um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you watch everything back, it's just you know, you
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  Speaker 1: literally go back to that moment in time, like when
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  Speaker 1: the steps of the gazebo, and I'm like, I know
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  Speaker 1: exactly how I was feeling, like um about the whole situation, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm the type of guy where I don't really
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  Speaker 1: put myself out there for too many people, and I
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  Speaker 1: know how much of myself I poured into this and um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, to just relive that moment
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  Speaker 1: of it coming to that screeching halt. Um, it was tough,
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  Speaker 1: you know because and I'm not and I don't regret
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  Speaker 1: a single thing. You know, if I could do it
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  Speaker 1: all over again, I would do the exact same way.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just, you know, it sucks, you know, giving
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  Speaker 1: so much of yourself and to not, um the end
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  Speaker 1: to that, you know, end up the way you wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a tough pill to swallow, so you wanted
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  Speaker 1: We obviously watched, and it's not that interesting here to
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  Speaker 1: talk about other relationshs. We watched the difficulty when you
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  Speaker 1: pick out a ring, if that would have been you.
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  Speaker 1: You were confident that Katie was somebody that you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to spend your life with. I told I told her,
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  Speaker 1: I told, you know, production the whole way, I said,
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  Speaker 1: I can see myself and I know people talk about
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  Speaker 1: how a short amount of time in the real world
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  Speaker 1: it is, but you guys know how expected this isn't
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  Speaker 1: how um, how much the time means and how quickly
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  Speaker 1: things can kind of elevate feelings wise right, and coming
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  Speaker 1: off that hometown, I knew where I was with Kate,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, Okay, we have the same level, if
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  Speaker 1: not more of a fantasy suite date night where I
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  Speaker 1: can you know, ask some questions that off camber that
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  Speaker 1: I need, you know, um And I said, yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know we can. We can get there. In my eyes
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  Speaker 1: right now, looking back and seeing her other relationships, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not naive like there's there's probably there's no chance
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  Speaker 1: right like she she was, she was further along with
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  Speaker 1: some of those relationships. So you know, everything happens for
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  Speaker 1: a reason, and things ended the way they were supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: So I can live with that. Your parents have been
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  Speaker 1: together for thirty years, but they didn't quite believe that
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  Speaker 1: you could get there as quickly as you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you can get there. While on the show, UM, did
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  Speaker 1: it hurt to not have their support when it came
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  Speaker 1: down to hometowns? And did they have any regrets for
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  Speaker 1: not showing up for you? Yes, so I'm glad you asked.
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  Speaker 1: So I do want to clarify m one thing. I
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  Speaker 1: have to extremely loving, caring and supportive parents. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it's so easy again for people you know, who
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  Speaker 1: are just watching to lose sight fact um of one,
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  Speaker 1: we're in the middle of a pandemic. Not one wants
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  Speaker 1: to fly to New Mexico, um, and to have to
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  Speaker 1: quarantine for over a week and take awful work. Not
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  Speaker 1: everyone is able to do that, and that's my parents
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  Speaker 1: and my brother, UM. And not everyone is comfortable being
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  Speaker 1: televized on national television, you know. Um. So these are
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  Speaker 1: all important factors to consider. And you know, people can
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  Speaker 1: say what they want about me, and that's one thing,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it doesn't upset me to to hear
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know me or my family jump to
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  Speaker 1: conclusions about their lack of support. You know, one thing
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  Speaker 1: that I've always appreciated about my parents is um, their
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  Speaker 1: honesty and they'll always give me their honest opinion, UM,
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  Speaker 1: and that tough love, and that's exactly what it was.
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  Speaker 1: You know. They're not going to sugarcoat anything. They're gonna
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  Speaker 1: speak their mind and tell me exactly how they feel.
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  Speaker 1: And that's real and that's the realness, and that's where
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  Speaker 1: I get it from. Um, And I wouldn't want it
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  Speaker 1: any other way. And to be honest, I didn't expect
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  Speaker 1: them to That's exactly what I expected, you know, from them. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I know my parents, and if that's if things
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  Speaker 1: had worked out where I was with Katie, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I told her, you know that their lack of showing
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  Speaker 1: up was not reflective of their disapproval for her or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. You know. I wanted to make that
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  Speaker 1: clear to her. And if I brought her back to Baltimore,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they would have saw everything that I saw
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  Speaker 1: in her and they would have supported it. Just in
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  Speaker 1: one question. We'rena take a break here in just a second,
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  Speaker 1: take a Brie there and come back. But one question
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  Speaker 1: before we do, to kind of lighten up the mood
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  Speaker 1: and switch gears for just a second. Your facial expressions
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  Speaker 1: did you know you had them? Did you know they
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  Speaker 1: were so amazing. Uh, and did you know that they
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  Speaker 1: would become the talk of everything. You were my favorite
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  Speaker 1: character for multiple reasons. You're a good dude, but also
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  Speaker 1: because I just liked watching you, uh and then laughing
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  Speaker 1: at everything that your face was saying. Yeah alright, So
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  Speaker 1: first question, I was aware that I was expressive growing up.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been told like, oh my god, you have
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  Speaker 1: such an expressive face. You know, you wear your expressions
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  Speaker 1: on your face, and I'm just I never thought anything
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  Speaker 1: of it. I'm like, oh, it's just me, Like I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen myself on TV. I don't look in the
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  Speaker 1: mirror when I tell you know, I mean, I just
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  Speaker 1: I just this is me. I just do me right.
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  Speaker 1: And so watching back on TV, I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: first episode, I'm like, damn, I'm like all right, like
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  Speaker 1: you know, I see what people we're talking about now.
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  Speaker 1: And then when it pay time, I was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, like I am not, like my face is
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  Speaker 1: out of control. And it's crazy because some people are
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  Speaker 1: like is he just doing it for the cameras, but
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  Speaker 1: all my friends and film it takes me like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is ute. Like we've been telling you this for
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  Speaker 1: years and I'm like, you guys didn't tell me I
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  Speaker 1: look like this, Like I look nuts, but no, it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Like I so where it came like I was also
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  Speaker 1: type of guy where I was like, I'm not coming
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  Speaker 1: in this house to start new drama. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: stick my nose in Adrian. That doesn't involve me. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm more of that. Like, if anything, I'm like that
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  Speaker 1: hermit the frog me with the tea, Like I'm just
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  Speaker 1: sit in my corner and watched you ACKed up, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm gonna watch and not say anything
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  Speaker 1: but say exactly what I'm saying through my face. So
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  Speaker 1: which is the best way for us? It's so much safer,
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  Speaker 1: so much I feel, Yeah, right, stay out of it.
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  Speaker 1: You're still stay in it. Yeah, good for you. Justin. Well, hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's take a break here. We're gonna come back with
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  Speaker 1: Justin talk a lot more about the season of The
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor at his experience, and then also if he's upset
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  Speaker 1: he's not going to paradise, We'll be back with the
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  Speaker 1: almost Famest podcast. Justin, Let's not talk about you for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Let's talk about Greg. How close were you
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  Speaker 1: to him in the house and were you surprised at
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  Speaker 1: what went down? Yeah? Greg, Greg is one of my
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  Speaker 1: absolute best friends, not only in the house but outside
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  Speaker 1: of um the house that like in the real world,
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  Speaker 1: like we're still that's one of my best friends. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and so I was extremely surprised. Um and shocker. I
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  Speaker 1: can't hide it, you know. When Caitlin told us, I'm like, what,
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  Speaker 1: like say it again? Like, because you know, you try
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  Speaker 1: your best not to think about the other relationships, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean you see the day cards get passed out,
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  Speaker 1: the one on ones, There's there's no secret that everyone
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  Speaker 1: saw Greg kind of a front runner, right, Um, and
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  Speaker 1: to see to see it in that way, it was
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  Speaker 1: just totally totally unexpected. Yeah, I mean how did how
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  Speaker 1: do you interpret what happened? Because it's like fifty fifty
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  Speaker 1: amongst like the Bachelor Nation audience. I did a pull.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, do you think this is a reaction
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  Speaker 1: from past trauma or do you think this is him
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  Speaker 1: gas letting and trying to get a situation by turning
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  Speaker 1: it on its head basically and like blaming her for
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  Speaker 1: like what he's feeling. How how what do you think
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  Speaker 1: happened in his head? Yeah? I've you know, I've tried
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  Speaker 1: to look at it from both lenses. Um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: just knowing the type of guy that Greg is, UM,
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  Speaker 1: He's he's a really good dude, and he is a
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: passionate guy. And I think that he was so invested
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in that relationship. And and I can't blame it, quite honestly,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Like if I were Greg, and I poured my heart
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: out like that and received essentially nothing. When I'm at
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a point where I'm considering getting down on one knee,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I'd be questioning a whole hell of a lot as well.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: And knowing myself, you know, and how I've reacted to
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: things in the past that haven't been the greatest. You know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I can't say that I, you know, would have you know,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: there's no script to this where people don't A lot
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of people don't realize. You know. You you act off
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of emotion, You act in the moment and something and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: sometimes you say and do things that you may regret. Right,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: And I think the combination of not getting the validation
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: that he may have been looking for, coupled with yeah,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: maybe not being fully healed from the trauma of the
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: passing of his dad, right, and and kind of apparently
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: with the high intensity and stress of this environment may
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: have caused him to handle things in a way that
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he would look back and say, Okay, I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: could have done that differently. On the flip side, I'm
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: sure Katie also looks at you know, a lot of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: how this has gone down, you know, not only that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: situation in terms of you know, I'm sure she would
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: have given him a little bit more there, right, But
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: then also um, last night after the final rose, I'm
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: sure there's a lot of things that they would both
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: do differently, um to have a conversation and not kind
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of turn it into this um, this yelling match that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: you know that that it unfortunately turned into. Emotions were
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: high last night. It was one of the it was
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: actually one of the hardest segments I've ever watched from
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this show, just like feeling like we always talked about it,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: just in there. There's moments on the show where you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: feel like you shouldn't be there in the room, like
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not I should not be invited in this and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the last night I feel like that, like they had
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a lot to hash out and there's a lot of
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: passion behind that conversation, a lot of hurt and a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: lot of pain. And it's interesting because your conversation with
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Katie went so just was so much different. And I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: know we could highlight some of the reasons why, but
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: what about the conversation with Greg, Like why was that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: one so heated and yours felt so calm and collected
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and like oh almost just it was healing, but it
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: was like almost just more emotional. Yeah, well, I UM,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you know obviously cannot speak for Greg or Katie in
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: terms of the level of emotion um. And I guess
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: you know, animosity or whatever you wanna call it that
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: they may have had towards each other. With the manner
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in which things ended, I think you know, it all
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: stems back from from how it ended on the show, right.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: You know, the conversation between Katie and I um ended
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: in a calm manner. Right, So you look at a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: fr are close. Your conversation, whatever you wanna call it,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: was also calm. You look at the way things worth
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: her and Greg ended on the show not calm, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: then a fr also not calm. And I think you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: when you leave the show and you don't, we don't
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: talk to Katie, right, so they haven't had a chance
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to kind of talk off the record and hash things out,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and you know kind of there's no game planning how
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you want to go into it. You know, you kind
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: of as much as you think you've left the emotion
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that you had, you know, back in in Albuquerque. You know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're on the internet, you know you're
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: watching episodes play back and you know your backstage, all
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: those same emotions come back, and I think that's what
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: led to what we saw last night. Unfortunately. Do you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: think it's fair for me to say that what Greg
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: really wanted Katie to do and the only thing that
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: was going to satisfy him in that moment was to say, Okay,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave with you, like you're the one. I'm
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: going to end this right now for you. I don't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think he wanted her. I mean, anyone who goes in
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: the show kind of knows how how it is, right like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: but he seemed angry at the fact that she was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: playing the bachelorette role last night. Yeah, I think he's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: coming from a point where he's upset, like he doesn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: want to here. When you when you were that late
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in this process and you're considering marrying somebody, you don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: want to hear somebody tell your mother he has a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: rose next week. He's number one on my list. You know,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you don't. It's not about where you rank with other guys.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, like do you see a future of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: me or not? And hear what I'm telling you about
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: how I feel about you and give me something. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people like, well, he got
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: the first impression rose. He got you know, validation every week,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and like again, it's it's easy for people who aren't
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in that environment to understand that. But I know the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: conversations that I needed to have with K two to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to feel confident enough to get down on one knee.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: And if I were Greg and I spilled my heart
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: out like that and got nothing in return, I don't know.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that would have changed my feelings.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And um, you know, I'm not Greg,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: so I can't validate or invalidate his feelings. Like I said,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I've I've looked at it from both lenses, and I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: can see the right and wrong on both sides. Um,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I think there's things that
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they both you know, wish they could have done differently.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: So to be able to get down on one knee,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you had to have some conversations. And so if we
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: were just if we were just directly asked you. By
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the way, side note, Jessica watched her very first episode
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: last night of this season, and your last outfit, the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: white shirt with the like sweater coat. She loved it,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: so you should know that. But again, you gotta let
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: go when you abody get done. Yeah, that's hey, that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is that is a strategy at least that started you
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. Um. Well, just so I'm gonna
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ask you then, Um, after all this has played out,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you sit here today, You've had some time to think,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You've had some time to heal. If I would ask
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you right now, do you believe that you were ready
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to propose to Katie? Do you believe that you would
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have done it? What would your answer be in that?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Are you're asking me now? Are you asking after processing
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: through everything from from how you felt then to watching
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: everything played out, do you believe that would have one
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: been the right decision? And two? Were you ready for it? Then?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Was I ready? Was I ready for it? Then? Yes?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Would have been the right decision? Looking back now now
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: going off of that, you know, we see Blake two
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: kind of two things here. One, how would you feel
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: if you were Blake and a week or not even
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a week feel like Jay two days earlier your fiance
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: said that somebody else was Number one. Mm hmm, okay,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: good question. Um No, that's a very valid question. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: UM yeah, I think you know, I've heard tatious speak
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: on it. You know, in terms of watching everything back, Zack,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure with any couple you know that ends
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: up in a propose, it it's hard to watch back
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and see all the relationships. But this scenario specifically, I'm
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sure it was very tough. I would imagine it was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: tough for Blake to see, um because I know how
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I felt watching everything back, you know, feeling like I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was potentially, you know, kind of just there by default.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine seeing the same reaction um with Greg
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and Michael and then ultimately being the one that ends
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: up with her, right Like, UM, I know I just
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: said a little moment ago this um, this ex but
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the timeline is one that only people that go through
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: this experience can can relate to. But even that is seems,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you know, like a very expedited timeline in terms of, um,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you know, potentially wanted to book the flight and go
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: home to then you know, um a few days later, um,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you know, confessing love again. Um, I'm not Blake, I'm
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: not Katie. Who am I too? You know, get my
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: standard approval or you know, get my you know, validation
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: for how quickly her feelings can change and where her
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: heart lies. Um. All I can go off of is
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: you know what she says and you know and what
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: we saw on TV and UM, and that's that. But
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: if I, if I was thinking, it would probably be
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: pretty tough to watch. I understand that. I understand the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: different emotions. I understand stand obviously staying open to relationships
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and having feelings from multiple people. I don't question that.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the big thing that maybe one day
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: when we talked to Katie the answer the question is like, hey,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you already go home, like you're already just to throw
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: in the towel and say I'm done with this whole thing.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And then a few days later, that's where things get
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a little different. Where I can't necessarily relate from my
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: experience is like I was never ready to give up,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: if anything, I was overwhelmed by the uh enormous emotions
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I was feeling and trying to decipher through that. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that is an interesting question and an interesting point. Now
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: for as much as actually I can relate with your experience,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there's moments and there's things about this season that we
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: can't relate with. Right, we had a whole different host. Uh.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And you had two mentors on your season, uh, Kaylin
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and Taitia. What was that like? How would you explain
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: their kind of interaction with the men. Did they come
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: in and check on you? Did you have a close
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: relationship with them? You know, I know with Chris when
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: he was a part of the show, the contestants, at
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: least when we got down to the final few, we
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: got fairly close. You check it on as mentor us
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: talk to us. Did you have that with Kaitlin and Tasia. Yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they would come in UM and talk to us. UM.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You know, they were always there, UM willing to you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: have conversations with us, kind of you know, one off
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in a group setting, you know, feel any questions, you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: whatever it may be. The bulk of their time UM
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was obviously spent with with Katie UM. And I think
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: you know, even you know, watching it back, I think
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that they have a perspective UM that is very unique
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: and valued um for the show that they were obviously
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: able to offer Katie. You know, Um, I don't know
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: anything about Chris, you know, but I don't sort have
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: been able to navigate the whole sitting on the bathroom
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: floor conversation with Katie, you know. So you look at
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: moments like that and you see how how they were
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: able to add so much value to this, um to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this season. And I'm sure they'll do the same thing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: with Michelle and whatever is beyond UM. But I've had
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: nothing but fantastic interactions with both Caitlin and Tasha. They've
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: always been extremely kind and supportive, um and there, so
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I've got nothing but great things to say about them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I thinky did a fantastic job. And even post you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: post show, um, you know, they've they've checked in with me,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we we've talked and UM, so it's not
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: just like a you know, from what I've seen is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, they're not they weren't there and you know,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just as oas and then you know that's it. You know,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I still have you know, somewhat of a relationship with
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: him after the show, which which I didn't expect, which
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: but has been incredible and I appreciate them for so
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: One of my issues with last night was that, like
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: we were coming off the low of Greg, then she
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: recovers and like falls in love, you know, it expresses
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: her love for Blake, and it feels like a happily
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: ever after, But then they bring us low again with
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: like twenty minutes of concentrating on Blake. Blake's hesitance towards proposing,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: and then when it got to the proposal to me,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: it felt like he was so hesitant. Um, it almost
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: felt like he was just giving into the pressure and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily what he wanted to do. What was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: your take on Blake's um decision to propose? Um? Yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I um, I mean Blake, you know, I will say,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, from the second Blake came in, it did
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: feel like his objective, you know, was to you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: make it to the end and and you know, proposed
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to Katie. You know, he's very close with Brendan from
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: the House and and Brendan you know, because you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: some some of the guys are of course skeptical, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Blake coming halfway through. UM and Brendan, you know, it
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: was kind of the guy to reassure everyone, you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: even back home. He's um. You know you always talked
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Tyler with Katie. You know they knew each other, Yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: they Yeah, they grew up together, so they knew each other.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Did help Brendon get on the show? I don't know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know about that, UM, but I think he
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know Brendan was gonna was gonna go on. And UM.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: It's weird, right because I think about my friends and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: like in the real world, like if one of my
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: friends pulled up on me when I'm trying to day
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to grow up, you know, like you know, UM, but
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I guess it's you know, I mean I asked, I
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: asked Blake UM early on, just you know, how the curiosity,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I love Brendan, you know,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and I know he wouldn't vouch for Blake and and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Blake's a good guy. UM. And you know, one of
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the questions I had was, UM, you know, if you
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: were that interested just out of curiosity, why not trying
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to to date her, you know in real life? And
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know why I come on the show and Katie
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: had actually come in. I think they showed it. She
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: came in and told us, you know, when she was
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: decided to keep Blake, she said that, you know, he
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: DMed her after her season just to kind of congratulate
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and she said she wasn't interested in him, um,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: you know whatsoever. But you know he ended up being
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: there and we know how all votes. But uh, you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: know that's your question. I um, yeah, I mean I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I think that was Blake subjective from the jump to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to propose. I think it's a scary moment for anyone.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I've I've never experienced that. But if I
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: feel like, even if I were dating somebody for five
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: years now, is picking out rings like I'd probably you know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: come pretty closely to myself, just like you know, this
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, this is it's a it's a
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it's a huge moment in your life, you know, like
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you are about to get down on one knee and
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: ask someone to marry you and spend the rest of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: your life with them. It's a scary moment. Um, So
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I can't blame him for coming off as as nervous
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: or hesitant. Yeah, you know, it's not something you're just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: kind of doing a whim and say, oh, like, let's
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just do it and see what happens. You know that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: at least that's not how I would approach it. It's
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a big moment. He seemed really nervous. It seemed like
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: a lot was going through his head. And I was,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you know, and watching Nashally's right, like watching the show
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: last night. The emotions even from the viewer was odd
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: because like we have her wanting to leave into you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: ending things with you two after she falls in love
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: with Blake, and then a day or two days later
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: he's proposing to her and it was and he's nervous
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: about it. It's like this feels like a lot for
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a week's time, Like it just feels heavy. It feels
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like too much is happening um so quickly. I actually
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: didn't think they were going to get He said a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: weird thing. And you guys, like justin if you could
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: put on your hosting cap here for a second. We
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: picked up on something weird at the proposal or he goes,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I can't give you what you want or something like that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: The world, yeah you deserve more like the work something
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: like he said, I can't give you what you want
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: because you deserve the world. Because you deserve the world.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what that means.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I think that was his really bad attempt of like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: doing that switchero where it's like the girl supposed to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: be disappointed for a second and then all of a sudden,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it's like the greatest news of her life, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like, yeah, the pivot I watched.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: As I watched that, I was like, I feel like
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he's trying to like pump Faker but didn't come off right.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Like it was weird. Yeah, he like pump faked all
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: of us. I got off my feet. I was off
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: my feet, like when I watched it, I was like, oh,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna do it, like just because like, yeah,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the whole build up of like, you know, Katie's like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you know, she spokes her heart. I'll be like yeah, okay, okay,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: and then blake, you know, he just just like this
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: long pause and then yeah, he says I can't give
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you what you want. I'm like, well, there's no way
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to come back from that, right, Like if you can't
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: give what she wants, Yeah, that's so weird. I see
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I think I see what he was trying to do,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: but I mean Blake, uh, you know Blake. He's he's
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a good dude, but you know, guy might not be
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the smoothest but it was. It was We watched it
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and just goes, what wait, He's not gonna do it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: like that? She was like, what what is this show?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: She doesn't watch her often, but when she does she
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: gets into a little bit. Um justin just found a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: couple of questions for you here. One is, I'm gonna
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: ask you too back to back one, Uh, are you
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: gonna are we gonna see him show season? Because we
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: saw how it worked out with Blake coming back on
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to Katie season. The second is are you interested in
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: being the Bachelor? Oh? My goodness, Um, are you going
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to see me on the show season? Don't hold your breath?
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Don't hold your hold your breath. Um. Yeah, it's it
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: is a lot that that process is a lot to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: go through. Um, you know, and I yeah, it's a lot. Um.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And your second question, do I want to be the Bachelor?
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Are you interested? Not? Do you want to be? Because
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that's obviously from this season that seems like a bad question. Nowadays,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: are you interested? I don't know. You know, I've been asked,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and this is my my honest answer. I really don't know, UM,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: because I can see obviously as as tough as it
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: was for me as a contestant to go through this
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: whole process, you know, I can only imagine how hard
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I saw how hard it was for Katie to go
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: through this, you know, and and um, you know, I
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I empathize with her, um and and a lot of
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the things she had to overcome, and I always committed
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: her strength for it. But like that is a that's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a tough role to play. I mean, you know, it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it's it's not easy, right, and there's a lot of pressure,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of expectations, and you know, something that
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I've had to come to grips with even going through
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: this is like you can't make everybody happy and that's okay,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Like not everyone's gonna love you, um, people are always
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: going to find something um to pick up. But it's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: just like for me, I don't know if that is
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know if that's if
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: that's the best thing for me. I don't know. UM,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I think I need to kind of sit and process
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: everything that is transpired, you know, and if that is
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: an opportunity that was presented to me, I feel like
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's one that I truly wouldn't even start to really
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: truly you dig into considering unless it was actually offered
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to me. I wouldn't be opposed to it. But it's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: not something I'm like, oh my god, I hope to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: call me. You know, I'm not waiting. I'm not sitting
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: by my phone waiting for that call. Um, so we'll see. Um,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming well, actually I should not assume anything. Did
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: they ask you to do Paradise? Yeah? And now I'm
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: assuming that you weren't ready to do it because the
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: turnaround would have been extremely quick for you, and like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the emotional over like a couple of days literally literally
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have even unpacked my suitcase without quick
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: to turn like it was. It was nuts. Um, it
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: was way too quick of a turnaround for me. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm not the type of guy, like I'm
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not trying to waste anybody's time. And you know, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: told them like if I go to that beach, like
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: like I'm not ready to with everything that I just
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a couple of things, right, like with everything that I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: just kind of poured out, and all the time and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: effort that I devoted to my relationship with Katie, like
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I can't turn around and do that for somebody else,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: um right way. And not only that, but you know,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I think one of the cool things about Paradise is
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: typically you know who the characters are, right Like, you
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: know who you're looking forward to seeing, you know what
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: most of the the people are about the girls, And I
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about me. You know, they may have
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: seen my like ugly headshot, but like they don't know
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: my personality. They don't know anything about me, and I
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: just like I didn't have the energy to like start
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: from scratch and like kind of re explain who I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: am when I'm about you know. So it was just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it was too quick and I wouldn't have been able
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to give it, um my best effort. And I didn't
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: want a different version of my myself, you know, to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to be seen because I wasn't in the right headspace
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to take on something like that. It looks wild. Paradise
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: is like Preview looked absolutely crazy. You're gonna have a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: blast watching your buddies make fools of themselves because they do.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And I've been in that seat before and it's it's
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: one of the most fun viewing experiences of your life. Uh.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And if you're not the Bachelor, I hope to see
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you on Paradise one day. Uh to close up here.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You know, Ashley always does a great job preparing these
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: questions for you. Justin thank you for joining us, Thank
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: you for chatting. Yeah, I wish you the best, the
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: most healing. You're a good dude, You're a good catch.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Uh and uh, I'm glad that we got to watch
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: on this season. Okay, I'm gonna pass it off to Ashley.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, man, Thank you. Okay, So we do
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: fun questions like who's your celebrity crush? Oh, this is
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a uh my celebrity crush. People always ask me this,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and like, I've never really, honestly never really had one.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: To be quite honest with you, I know, I like,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I know. It's such a lame answer.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It's such a lame I mean, come on, you're going
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: through magazine, You're going through an US weekly. Who are
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you looking at a little bit longer? Um? Uh, this
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: is back. Yes, you can come back. What's your favorite movie? Oh, law,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: law abiding citizen. If you were to go to Paradise,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: which bachelor alum would you want to see there? Um? Yeah,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I know she probably wouldn't come. Um, and I you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: have my hesitations about going on Paradise. But if there's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: one person that could, uh, that could make me pull
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: up to the beach of debris springs. Oh that's a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: great answer. And we are so disappointed to see that
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: she wasn't there. Yeah. May you know, I may I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: may have found a little bit more energy if they
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: told me she was gonna be there. It was it
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: was a it was a pastor me heard that she
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was hanging out with your buddy Greg in New York City, platonically,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: platonically interestingly, it's not interesting. Yeah, no, I mean, like
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I get it, Like you see a picture of the
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: two of them, and like, at face value, people jump
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to conclusions. I mean one for one reason, a relationship, um,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: but also just in it. Unfortunately, I was gonna say,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: were they trying to set you up with her? Uh?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I mean she wasn't a relationship. Maybe I'm not to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: borrow that that little letter from Andrews and let her
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: know I'll be here. But uh, but no, I I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: mean Greg. They both live in New York, and you
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: know when you both like it's just like you guys,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: know how it is like it's a network of of friends,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: right like you talk to each other. You know, you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: live down the street from each other, You're gonna hang out.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just them, there was a group of
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and so you know, people need to just swimmer down
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and get my boy break. Okay, Um, who would be
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the guy from your season that like imagine this is
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like I am legend, You're like the only living person
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: in the city, just trying to survive. Who would you
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: want to be by your side in that moment? Like
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: who would gets you through armageddon? That is a fantastic question, Honestly,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I think, Um, for a couple of different reasons, I'd
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: say Brendan. Okay, I'd say I'd say Brendan for a
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: couple of reasons. Brendan. Uh, Brendan will definitely go to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: war for any of us. Um. I don't know this
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: scenario that we would where this would be beneficial, but
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like Brendan has like the best immune system
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: out of the group. With just the toxicity that he
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: puts in his body. So I feel like he's just
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: like ready for what he does. That mean he drinks
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: a lot? Yeah, I guess it's the guy can toss
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it back for sure, but now he uh, he'll go
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to hell him battle for anything, So I don't want
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: to buy my side. Plus, he's a firefighter in training,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: so that could be beneficial as well. Secondly, who would
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: be the person that you don't know that you'd be
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: paired with ina ar mcgedton, But then you'd be like, honestly,
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be alone than be with you, um Trey,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: because I feel like, not because I love traded death obviously,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: but I feel like we would just like we would
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: joke around so much that it would be so vulnerable
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and like and not make it you know what I mean.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: We're just like we'd have too good of a time,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I just we'd lose sight of of Yeah,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I just think would be too vulnerable. Did you guys
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: do the accents together? Uh? No? Well, so, like there
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: were a couple of different accents that floated around. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: really liked the one that was on Mentel all like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the very snobby British one. Oh that was yes. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: greg has like an alter ego Gregory James, and Gregory
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: James is a prolific poet, and I wish you guys
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: could see this, like, oh my god, is so funny.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Like he would just it would be like when it
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: comes Stanzas, there would be like three line four line,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: just quick kidding poems that were actually fired and it
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: would be like related to like what's going on in
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the house, like it it'd be so dumb that you're like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: this is actually a masterpiece. And he would never be
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: like you would ask me to recite the poem, he
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it unless he was ready to do it.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: You would ask him to write one, and he would
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: just be like the time is not now, and you'd
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: be like okay, Like nobody ever you don't question Gregory Chance.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: And there was one time when he's literally were outside
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: and I had been begging him to write a new
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: poem for me. Right I was in one of the rooms.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: He was outside from around the corner. I just didn't
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: even know he was around the corner. He's like, come now,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like the hell, And I got like, that's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Gregory James. I'm like, because sit and just and just
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: recites his fire poem and I'm like, and then he
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: just drops the pen, drops the paper, flips his hair
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and walks off. I'm like, I think I like Gregory
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: James more than I like greg Definitely need to see
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: on TV. I know, I wish I would have came
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: out last night, like right in the middle of Katie
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: just being so upset, all of a sudden, he just
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: totally switched his course and drops like some wild poem.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Monitor that would be good TV. That I would have Um,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I would have died. He would have won all the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: audience back with that. That was the ultimate move. You
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: know what. I bet you just kicking himself that he
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: didn't do that. That would have stunned. That would have
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: stunned everyone in the best way possible, like standing oh
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: like hey would have gotten the standard up and he
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: would do it like he would just like cross his
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: legs and like twirl his like merlo and just it
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: was like it's a whole it's a whole thing. Yeah.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I love that. And I'm excited for the headlines from
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: this podcast that get picked up and it's gonna be
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: justin talks about Greg's alter ego. That's gonna be a
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: headline that's gonna say what you want about Greg, but
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: get to know Gregory James. That's right. Okay, Well I
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: couldn't ask another rapid fire, but I feel like that
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: is the way to end this podcast. So you're great,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: great rapid fire questions, those like weren't surfing stuff? Those
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: were good. She's talented. I'm telling you she makes money
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: hosting and there's a reason why she's pretty good. Hey, Justin,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: thanks buddy, all right, thanks for having me, Austin, have
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Justin on the podcast. Really incredible interview. Shared a lot
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: with us, uh, and it was a good recap of
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the final episode. Well, now it's time for one of
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: our favorite segments that has stayed with us for years
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: now and it just keeps on giving. It's time for
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines with our resident expert who knows all and
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: everything about life. It's Actuley like can Eddie Ashley. Here's
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the first headline, waiting for you to break it down. Uh.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Bachelor execs now think losing Chris Harrison was a mistake,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: as ratings plummet without ex host despite racism scandal. This
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: according to Sun. Yes, this is from the Sun, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: it's um all because viewership has continued to drop to
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a all time low with Katie season um she her
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: ratings and Nielsen ratings are just three point three to
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: three point eight million people watching per episode. Last year's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: run with Tasha and Claire average about five millions, So
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: as you can see, you don't do you a math
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: expert that that is a big percentage drop And according
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to a source an insider uh they claim that ABC
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is now concerned over losing more than a million viewers
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: per week and that them thinking is due to letting
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: go of the former host. The quote says ABC execs
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: are beginning to think that losing Chris Harrison was a mistake.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: They still do not condone his comments to Rachel whatsoever,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: but some are panicking for the direction of the show.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Ratings this season are at an all time loan. I'm
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: not saying that's all due to Chris, but numbers don't lie. However,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the source clarified that producers do believe that Caitlin and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Tasha are doing a good job as co host. Sure, well,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: some we talked about it was the risk, you know,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: when people are saying fire Chris Harrison. It's like, okay,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: hey that you everybody has their opinion on that. But
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: what is the repercussion is going to be when that happens? Um?
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And who knows? We don't know where the Bachelor franchise
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: goes from here, but they're starting to talk about it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: It's a big headline. Um. I don't think it's often
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: that ABC admits that maybe they possibly made a mistake.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And I don't think they've done it publicly yet, so
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: who knows. But I would agree Tasha and Caitlin did
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: a great job. But but um, who knows what happens
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: in the future. Well, well, look at the next headline.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of hosting. Uh, Jennifer Aniston, my celebrity crush, jokes
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: that she would gladly host a Bachelor after Chris Harrison exit. Now,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: wait a second, Jennifer, don't joke that hard, because we're
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: gonna want to take you seriously. So, she was asked
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: on whether or not she, a super fan, would test
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: out her hosting skills and follow in Chris Harrison's footsteps.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: She says, God, I don't know. I think they need
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a psychologist or a psychiatrists, not just Chris Harrison or
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: whoever is the host. Now there should be someone they
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: can go and talk to. Um. And then she said
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: when people were asking whether or not she she would
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: guide the contestants in their journey for love, she said, well,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: and to help them, you know, talk through their issues.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: She said, Okay, well I'll do that gladly. I'll be
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the one picking roses in the rose garden. Okay, can
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: that be a segments down in the rose garden picking flowers? Watch?
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. She said. The best version of the Bachelor
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: is The Island Bachelor in Paradise. So, I mean that
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: makes me feel pretty cool because that means she's she's
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: watching me on TV. And that's just the weirdest and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: coolest thing. And I know we've said this multiple times
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: whenever Jennifer Anson comes up in a headline, but it
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't stop ever being cool. Well, and it's not unfathomable
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: for her to maybe host a week on Paradise. I mean,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we saw it this year. It's kind of after the preview.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: We know at least Little John and David Spader there
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: along with Wells, and so they're bringing in the celebrity
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: hosts to kind of guest host a week. Why not
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston? I don't. I mean, seriously, Jennifer, if you
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: are serious, she listened to this podcast, So yeah, Jennifer,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: come on make the call. Uh. Well, as we mentioned
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a little bit ago, Uh, congratulations to Katie and Blake
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: on their engagement and what seems to be they're very
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: happy and it feels like they've obviously been through a lot,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: but it feels like it's made them stronger as a couple.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Where where this headline relates to their relationships? Says Katie
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Thurston and Blake Moyne's move on from wild couple of
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: months as Bachelor Nation reacts to her engagement and fight
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: with Greg. Wait, when was Blake's birthday? Because apparently she
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: took the Instagram to say happy effing birthday, honey bear.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: What a wild couple of months it has been. I
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: couldn't have done this without you. I'm so ready to
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: leave these bubbles and start living our life. When she
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: means bubble, she means like the Bachelor bubble and like
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: the fact that they've only been able to see each
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: other in secluded locations. Um, but yeah, it's thirty first
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: birthday was holy crap, like the same day as a finale.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Who wouldn't Wow, what a day? What a day for
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Katie and Blake. So she couldn't ask for a better partner,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: says you are kind, patient, understanding, and your advocacy for
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the planet and animals is remarkable. I'm so lucky to
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: call you my fiance, my best friend, my confidante. We
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: are just two weirdos laughing our way through life together.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: And then um, Caitlins and the comments love you guys
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: both so much. You two have always Um, you guys
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: have always been meant to be such a strong couple
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: and can't wait to see you guys thrive together. Um wow,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: what a day for them yesterday. That's cool. It's a
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: big day with a lot happening. And obviously the Greg
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: scenario did at times feel like it overshadowed the engagement. Uh.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: And because Greg was a big character on this season, well,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: we have a couple of different opinions here which are
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: interesting to break down. Caitlin Bristow, for one, the mentor
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: of this season, UH doesn't like the way that Greg
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: treated Uh Katie. But then we have former Bachelorette contestants
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and uh a fellow Bachelor contestant, Connor Brennan kind of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: be as we know him. He defended Greg Grippo on
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Twitter last night. Uh so we have two different things
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: going on here, Ashley, Uh, two different opinions. What are
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the headlines saying? Okay? So Caitlin took to Instagram and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: said that she's actually watched that episode where Katie and
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Greg break up three times. She said she just had
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: to digest her thoughts on it. She goes from being
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: on the bathroom floor, I was just thinking he poured
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: his heart out and she didn't respond. Well. Now watching back,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't like how he treated her. Connor defends Greg.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: He says on Twitter relationships are nuanced, to break ups
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: are nuances. Sometimes there's not a good guy or a
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: bad guy. Sometimes cameras and tweets can't act, can't accurately
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: captured the complexity of real life. Kindness is free, Love
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: is complicated. Next headline is a big one. Great Grippa
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: was spotted with brief Springs in New York City this
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: last week, which people started rumoring about and talking about.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: But now we know, thanks to our friend Justin, that
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: she's actually in a relationship. Yeah, so the headline reads
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor's Brief Springs confirms her relationship status after hanging
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: out with Great Grippo, but like definitely doesn't really like
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: clarify much, except because she just posted an Instagram story
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: of her of herself holding hands with the man and
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: apparently this man clearly isn't Greg and she says current
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: relationship status. Um. But she says she's gonna keep his
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: identity quiet for now. Um. And she's also not going
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to talk about how long they've been dating. But she's
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: been spotted with this mystery man before, um, when he
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: appeared to be her date to a wedding earlier this year.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So that is that could have been a big storyline,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: one that I felt like we're gonna be talking about
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: for a while, But now it just kind of feels
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: like it went away. Like their friends they hung out.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Who knows why or what they were doing, but um,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: you know, she seems happy, she's public about it. Lots
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of you know, bachelor lums. We hang out because we're
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: able to relate over stuff that some that most people
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: can't understand. Definitely, well, uh, as we move away from
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Katie season, not too quickly. I've got to celebrate her
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: and Blake and will continue to update you on everything
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: going on in their life. Is is that relationship continues.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: We are moving into a new season a Paradise and
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: also an upcoming season that's being filmed right now of
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Michelle Young season which people have been excited about. And
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette creator, Mike Flice, you've probably heard his name
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: used once or twice before, offers behind the scenes look
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: at Michelle Young's upcoming season. This according to people, Okay, well, guys,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it's not really a huge behind the scenes look. He
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: posted a picture of her in a gym with some basketballs,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: so it looks like they'll be playing basketball on a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: group game or something. Um. I think he's just kind
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of signaling that the season is beginning. Uh. And Katie
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: has given her advice to Michelle. She said, I've spoken
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: to Michelle as much as I can because I know
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: it's any day now that they're going to take our
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: phone away. I think the biggest advice that I can
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: give to her is just be open. Don't close yourself
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: off too early. I think guys can surprise you weeks
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: later when you don't expect it beautiful, just beautiful. It is.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: We're excited for that season. We have a lot of
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: things look forward to, uh, including Paradise, and we're gonna
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: jump down to one Paradise headline here The Bachelor in
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Paradise sneak peak promises, drama, send departures, and well a
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: lot of Little John and David's bait. What happened to
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Lance Bass? Lance is still there? Lance is there? What
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: about Titus Burgess? Do they come in later? I don't
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: know they're going to be there. They're all gonna be there, um,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: but the preview, of course, it's messy, it's chaotic, uh.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people who are known for
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: their drama, and they're like Tammy and Victoria Larsen, she's
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: there too. But Guys, I think the biggest the thing
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: that left me lingering in my heart, the thing that
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I saw that I just like, I'm like so nervous for,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: is that now we can confirm that Kendall does show
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: up and she she does talk to Joe about why
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: they're both there, and I just feel like this is
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: heartbreak on the brink. I mean, yes, they've been broken
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: up for a year and a half. But it just
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: seems like there's still some hurt that will come up this. Yeah,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: it looks sad, it looked hard, it looked heavy, And
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: we've been around him actually when they were dating, and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: it was a real relationship that I know they cared
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a lot for each other. So just be interesting to
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: watch that go down, and hopefully they both find somebody
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: incredible in Paradise. That would be awesome and also a
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: little weird to be dating. You're dating somebody in front
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: of the person used to love and care about. I
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if I love that idea
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: really really hard, kind of like Blake dating Katie in
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: front of Tasha pretty much pretty much, that is weird,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I guess. But like you know, Tasia is very much taken,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and Blake it doesn't seem interested. And then this is
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a little different because neither one of them go into
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: this taken. I'm just really worried about this because I
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to have like a lot of
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: like second hand, I'm just gonna like the memories. It's
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: just gonna really hurt. Okay anyway, But then we also
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: get confirmation that beget Kuferin is down there so is
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Tea and Demi. So those are three big Bachelor names
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: that we haven't been able to confirm until like that
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: teaser and the fact that this week, um ABC put
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: out an oppress release that Beca Koufrin is going to
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: be in paradise. UM, what's our next headline? Ben the
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: Bachelor ets Andrew Spencer addresses past insensitive tweets. I'm a
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: different person now. Actually this is from people. It continues
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: to pop up in Bachelor Nation where people are kind
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: of old tweets or things are revealed. Uh, kind of started. Uh,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know a few years ago. I remember even
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: with Lee that guy. But Andrew Spencer's addressing him. Yeah,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the tweets said, um, but they
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: have been called insensitive. He says, I'm super sad and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: embarrassed that those tweets came up. Definitely not the person
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: who I am today. I was young, childish and immature,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly what those tweets were. Super immature. I've
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: lived overseas the last three years. Obviously, I've seen different things,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and I've been around different cultures and people. So I'm
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: a different person completely, And you know, I just want
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to make sure everyone knows that in my heart, I
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: don't I don't ever really go out and try to
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: make someone feel bad. I've grown so much and I've
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: always been super positive. They're apparently they contain offensive language
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and they are misogynistic. A few more headlines here Tyler
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Cameron just after recently admitting his absolute love for his
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: girlfriend Camilla Uh. They've split after eight months of dating,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and the headline reads their friends are surprised. This according
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: to us, I'm surprised too, because I saw him like
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: a week and a half ago on Watch What Happens
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: with Andy Cohen and she was sitting next to mat
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: in the audience, and he called her out as his girlfriend.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: So like, I don't know, I wonder if like something
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: there was like one big fight or something happened. I'm
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: not here, I am speculating, but apparently the a Sore
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: says to us Weekly things were going well until they weren't,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: so maybe I was right. Um. Friends were surprised that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: things ended so quickly. Um, and that's that's about all
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: we got. But they did unfollow each other on Instagram
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and she stopped keeping up with his brother on social
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: media as well, and yeah, it comes after two weeks,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: two weeks after he declared his love for her on
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live. Big headline there. Well a couple
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: more relationship headlines. One is when to celebrate Vanessa Grimaldi
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: is celebrating her bachelor at party. Uh and uh it's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: something special. It looks like a lot of fun. Yeah,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: it looks like a blast um, she says, what a night.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: It was the best bachelor atte party with the most loving,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: kind and generous group of women. I'm so lucky to
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: call friends. This is what life's about, surrounding yourself with
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: people who fuel your heart and soul. And I'm still smiling.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: So they don't give us the date to her and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: her fiancee's wedding, but I'm assuming it's coming up within
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the next couple of months. It is something to celebrate.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Vanessa is one of the great ones. Well. Also Cassie
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Randolf finally I guess, but also makes her relationship public
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: with Brighton Reinhardt. Uh. This on is on Instagram and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: it's according to people I know. So On Thursday, she
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: shared a carousel of photos and videos on Instagram with
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: her and her twenty five year old musician boyfriend Brighton
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Ryan hard Um and the Captain said, love exploring new
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: places that I didn't even know. We're right in my backyard. Um.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: And then he responded saying, love exploring new places with you.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Very cute. And this is something that people have I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: guess kind of seen coming for a while. They've been
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: hanging out dating for a while, but they have not
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: made an Instagram official until now. Big deal for Cat
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: see Randolph as she enters into a new season of
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: life with Brighton Reinhart. Well, hey, that's all the headlines
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: we have today except one last one that talks about
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: your friends. Jade and Tanner have moved into a new
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: home and they've showed it off on Instagram kind of
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: teased it. I guess we should say this week, Yes
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: they did. Um. It's really right down the street from
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: their old house. It's like very very close and the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: kids seem to be adjusting really well. The house is beautiful.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: It was a house that Tanner had his eye on
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: for I'm not even kidding you, like a year. Um.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: They did not think that they were going to move.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: It was like a little pipe dream of his, like
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: with his eye on this house. And then um, just
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: with like the housing market, it actually panned out pretty
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: well for them. So I'm very excited to see the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: new house and to see how the kids um make
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: it their home. It looks nice, yeah, I can tell
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: you that. Yeah, it looks good. Hey, that's all the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: headlines we have for you today. Uh, it's also the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: ending of this podcast in this season. Uh oh, I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: guess going off a Katie season of the Bachelor. But
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: we're not stopping here, Oh we ash We're gonna move
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: right into Bachelor in Paradise. We're gonna continue to break
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: down everything good going on in Batchel Nation. We're not
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: taking any breaks. Why would we, because we got a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: lot to look forward to and our paradise. I mean,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I think the Star of Paradise, if like Paradise had
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: a face, they represented it, Ashley con Eddie would probably
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: be that face. At least that's what I think of.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: And so it's gonna be a blast breaking down every
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: episode of Paradise with Ashley. I have missed it. I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: mean I just thought in my head, I was like,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: why does it feel like it's been so long since
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: we talked about Paradise. It's because it's actually been like
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: seven hundred days. That's a long time. It's been a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: long time, mash. So hey, we're gonna be here for it.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be breaking down for you. So in honor
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise, coming back to our screens, we
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: have gathered some of the most dramatic clips quotes from
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the teaser, and we're going to read them in dramatic fashion.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Now you're listening, pleasure of course. Okay, So I'll play
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Kendall and you play Joe. Let's do this. And then
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Kendall walks in and that's Joe's X and Joe's with Serena.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Why did you come here? Why did you come here?
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Kendall is absolutely trying to stop this. Okay, Demi and Marie,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I'll play you played Demi. Yeah, that's funny. Hey, got
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: you a birthday cake. Here he is with Demi and
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I'm right there watching and then okay, wait, it's crying. Wait.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Here he is with Demi and I'm right there watching
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: those poor girls. I'm gonna steal all their men. The
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: heat is on. That's all I've got to say. And
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: then we see the cake. There's like an actual cake
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: in fire. Your cake is in the fire, by the way,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I trusted you, and then you backstab I'm not backstabbing you.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: And then Kelsey comes in and says she's caught in
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: a lie and she doesn't know how to get out
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: of the final one because this has been so terrific.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: Thomas and Aaron. Uh, Ashley, I'll play Thomas in Serena okay,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and I'll play Abigail and Aaron. Abigail says there's definitely
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: a storm coming, as they always say in Paradise. Serena says,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Aaron is ready to fight Thomas, and Aaron says, I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: deserve some respect. Thomas says, don't f with me. You
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: are ridiculous. But okay, but that's all we got for
• 1:05:53
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• 1:05:56
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