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Bengals Podcast: Rule The World · Bengals Booth Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi, Gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The Everybody Wants to the World addition,
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Speaker 1: as the Bengals look to extend their five game winning
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Speaker 1: streak by beating the goat, seven times Super Bowl champion,
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Speaker 1: five time Super Bowl MVP, and the NFL's all time
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Speaker 1: leader in passing yards and touchdowns, Tom Brady coming up,
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to another Goat when it comes to studying
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Speaker 1: Sell from NFL Films and ESPN, I'll chat to Von
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Speaker 1: Bell about facing Tom Brady, and we'll hear what Brady
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Speaker 1: had to say about Joe Burrow when the Bengals quarterback
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Speaker 1: Now let's get to this week's game. The Bengals are
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Speaker 1: tied for first in the AFC North and the Buccaneers
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Speaker 1: are alone in first in the NFC South, but these
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Speaker 1: are two very different first place teams. After an O
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Speaker 1: and two start, the Bengals have won nine out of
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Speaker 1: eleven After a two and o start, the Buccaneers have
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Speaker 1: lost seven of eleven. Still, a six and seven record
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Speaker 1: gives Tampa Bay a one game lead in its division
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Speaker 1: over the Panthers and Falcons who are five and eight.
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Speaker 1: For more on the Bengals in the Bucks, I turned
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Speaker 1: to one of the best in the business at watching
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Speaker 1: the tape and sharing his insights. It is always a
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Speaker 1: treat to talk football with my friend Greg co Sell
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Speaker 1: from NFL Films and the NFL Matchup show on ESPN.
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Speaker 1: You did a segment on the Bengals defense last week, Greg,
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Speaker 1: where you talked about them as being too often overlooked.
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Speaker 1: What stands out to you when you watch this group,
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Speaker 1: I would say a couple of things. Dan number one,
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Speaker 1: I think they have better players than people give them
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Speaker 1: credit for. They may not have that one player. You
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Speaker 1: know what we think of with defenses. We think of
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Speaker 1: guys who get a ton of sacks. Now. I know
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Speaker 1: Hendrickson had I think around fourteen or fifteen sacks a
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Speaker 1: year ago, although he's not really talked about as a
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Speaker 1: sacker the way some others are, so he's not really
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Speaker 1: mentioned that way. And more often than not, people talk
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Speaker 1: about corners. If you have a great corner and they
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Speaker 1: don't have that one guy that you say, wow, that
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Speaker 1: guy is a great corner. Usually, stacked linebackers are not
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Speaker 1: discussed very much. When people talk about defenses, they probably
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Speaker 1: should be talked about a little more because I think
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Speaker 1: they're really valuable. And I think that the Bengals have
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Speaker 1: one really good one in Logan Wilson, and another in Pratt,
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Speaker 1: who I think is a really solid player. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think you're dealing with two guys who are really good. Now, obviously,
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Speaker 1: when they go dying, which they do go dying, Pratt
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Speaker 1: comes off the field. Wilson never comes off the field,
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Speaker 1: and they you know, just like every team, they have
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Speaker 1: different personnel packages based on nickle and dime. But I
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Speaker 1: think someone like Sam Hubbard again, another guy who's not
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Speaker 1: going to have fifteen sacks, but on this team and
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Speaker 1: the way in which he's deployed, I think Sam Hubbard
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Speaker 1: is a really really good football player. And of course
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Speaker 1: we know about Reader inside. I mean, you know, there's
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Speaker 1: certain guys who are just really good players, who play
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Speaker 1: roles that are important roles on teams that just may
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Speaker 1: not put up stats and numbers that people take note of,
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Speaker 1: but they're really good players. And I think lou and
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Speaker 1: Aramo does not get enough credit either, because I think
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Speaker 1: they do a really good job week to week being
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Speaker 1: somewhat opponent specific in how they approach it, and I
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Speaker 1: think that doesn't get talked about enough either. LOUI has
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Speaker 1: done a pretty remarkable job of confusing some great quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes. Are there any unique concepts or anything
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Speaker 1: he is becoming known for as a defensive coordinator. You
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Speaker 1: just hit it right on the head, I think, and
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Speaker 1: the Mahomes one is obviously the one that's most visible.
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Speaker 1: But I think he does that pretty much every week
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Speaker 1: in different ways. So it's not Hey, there's one thing
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Speaker 1: that you know he's going to do Dan that you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: that's a lou An Aramos thing. But I think he
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Speaker 1: has a really good feel for opposing offenses, what their
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Speaker 1: strengths are, how to get them into perhaps a limitation,
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Speaker 1: and I think he does that really well on a
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Speaker 1: week to week basis. I want to get back to
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Speaker 1: DJ Reader for a second, because when he's been healthy
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Speaker 1: this year, opponents have not been able to run on Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: It's been black and white statistically. What does DJ Reader
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Speaker 1: do for this group? As you know, you've been doing
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Speaker 1: this a long time College football, NFL, stopping the run
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Speaker 1: is not a sexy subject. People always think it's something
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Speaker 1: wow they must be doing something amazing normally stopping the run,
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Speaker 1: and Reader is really good at This has to do
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Speaker 1: with your first level defenders, you know, depending on the
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Speaker 1: nature of your defense. One gap, two gap, there's always
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Speaker 1: some of both, depending on whatever defense you play. But
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Speaker 1: what readers really good at is controlling and displacing offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman and that's essential in stopping the run. So again,
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Speaker 1: it's not a sexy topic where you think, man, there's
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Speaker 1: a great pass for right way. He just flew by
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Speaker 1: that guy, you know, but he's really good at that.
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Speaker 1: And when your interior d lineman can do that kind
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Speaker 1: of thing, it really allows your linebackers to play faster
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Speaker 1: because now they don't have to wait and see what's happening.
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Speaker 1: They can immediately react. And I think you're seeing that
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Speaker 1: with Wilson. While he often gets big tackle totals, and
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Speaker 1: but Reader is just really, really good at controlling and
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Speaker 1: displacing offensive lineman. For chatting with Greg Cosell from the
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Speaker 1: NFL Matchup show on ESPN, Let's Turn to Offense. You
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Speaker 1: sent me your notes about Joe Burrow prior to the
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft, and you had him graded as the
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Speaker 1: number one quarterback in that class, and it's turned out
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Speaker 1: to be a good class. Is there anything about Burrow
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Speaker 1: in year three that's even better than you thought it
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Speaker 1: would be at this stage of his career. The short
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Speaker 1: answer is no. But I think he's improved in certain
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Speaker 1: areas that he's been forced to improve in because of
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Speaker 1: the nature of the team. I think this year he's
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Speaker 1: gotten much better in understanding how to camouflage and compensate
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Speaker 1: for some old line deficiencies. And I think great quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: do that. You know, it's always easy to say when
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Speaker 1: a quarterback gets sacked a lot that they have a
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Speaker 1: bad old line, and you know, and we're not gonna
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Speaker 1: lie here. We're not going to say that the Bengals
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Speaker 1: have a great old line or that they had one
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Speaker 1: a year ago. But I think Burrow has developed sort
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Speaker 1: of a more intuitive feel for how to deal with that,
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Speaker 1: whether it's getting the ball out, whether it's being better
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Speaker 1: with his calculated movement. Because Burrow is a sneaky athlete.
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Speaker 1: And when I say sneak, I don't mean you know,
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Speaker 1: he's necessarily going to run for a hundred yards, although
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Speaker 1: we certainly can run for first downs if demanded. But
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Speaker 1: just his ability to navigate the pocket, his ability to
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Speaker 1: climb the pocket and find space, you know, a more
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Speaker 1: quiet spot to deliver the ball. And he's such a
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Speaker 1: quiet player. That's a word that I heard from a
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Speaker 1: quarterback coach who was a head coach of the league
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Speaker 1: for a number of years, who I know well, and
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Speaker 1: when he told me that years ago, it just really
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Speaker 1: struck me. About quarterbacks, some seem even really good ones
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Speaker 1: at times, can see very active in their movement. Burrow
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Speaker 1: looks quiet in his movement, even when he's forced to move.
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Speaker 1: It never looks hurried or frenetic. It looks quiet. And
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Speaker 1: I think he's gotten such a better feel for that
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Speaker 1: as he's had to, because you know, look, let's be realistic.
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Speaker 1: This has not been a great old line over the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, although I do think it's improved
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Speaker 1: as this year has progressed, because you would know this
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Speaker 1: better than I. But I think those five have played
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Speaker 1: the pretty large majority of the snaps this year, have
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Speaker 1: they not? They have started every game together. Yeah, so,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think there has been improvement.
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Speaker 1: There's always some snaps where you know, they just certain
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Speaker 1: guys get beaten. That happens, But I think you know,
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Speaker 1: I think Burrow has developed a really good feel for that,
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Speaker 1: and I think that's an improvement that he had to have,
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Speaker 1: And because he's such a smart player and an intuitive player,
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Speaker 1: he's developed that. Early this year opponents were playing the
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Speaker 1: Bengals pretty much the same way, a lot of two
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Speaker 1: deep zones trying to take the deep ball away from
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. Since week two they're averaging more than twenty
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Speaker 1: seven points a game. What adjustments have they made to
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Speaker 1: attack that better? In your opinion? You know, when teams
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Speaker 1: look to take away deep you have to think of
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Speaker 1: it this way. If you're going to play single high
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Speaker 1: number one, a couple of things happen. One is you
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Speaker 1: give up seams number two. There's outside the numbers throws
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Speaker 1: that will always be there because a single high safety
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Speaker 1: is never going to get to make a play outside
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Speaker 1: the numbers on a vertical type route. So and I
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Speaker 1: think Burrow is an absolute master, maybe the best in
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Speaker 1: the league at attacking one on ones outside the numbers.
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Speaker 1: When he sees that, he throws it. Now, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: and you may know this, I don't know how many
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Speaker 1: of those are you know, checks at the line of scrimmage.
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Speaker 1: Or play calls. That's hard for me to know watching tape,
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Speaker 1: but I do know that when he sees one on
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Speaker 1: ones outside the numbers with Higgins or Chase, he throws it.
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Speaker 1: And obviously Higgins a Chase are very very good. Even
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Speaker 1: with split safety, depending on what you do with your
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Speaker 1: combination route concepts, DAN, you can still throw one on
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Speaker 1: one outside the numbers because if you can eat up
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Speaker 1: the safety to that side with a route concept or
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Speaker 1: combination route, you still get one on one outside the numbers.
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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna play split safety, there's one less
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Speaker 1: defender underneath. Okay, it's a numbers game. Football is a
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Speaker 1: numbers game. I learned that a long time ago from
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Speaker 1: a veteran coach. So now you have if you're gonna
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Speaker 1: rush for play split safety, you only have three underneath defenders,
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Speaker 1: and that then becomes easier to attack underneath. And I
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Speaker 1: think they do a really really good job. They're among
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Speaker 1: the best in the league with what we call high
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Speaker 1: low concepts. They work between the numbers exceptionally well. So
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Speaker 1: they eat up and underneath defender with a low route,
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Speaker 1: whether it's the tight end, it could be the back,
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Speaker 1: and then they run usually an inbreaking route behind that,
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Speaker 1: and if you're in split safety, you can't really play
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Speaker 1: that route, you know, you have to play a top
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Speaker 1: down so the ball will be caught. And they do
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Speaker 1: that with any number of receivers. They do it with Higgins.
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Speaker 1: I saw them do it a few weeks ago before
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Speaker 1: it got hurt with Joe Mixon. I forget who the
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Speaker 1: opponent was. Out of an empty set, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about this since the
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Speaker 1: Steelers game when they had twenty empty sets, they've not
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Speaker 1: been an empty very much, and I've been kind of
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Speaker 1: surprised by that. Do you know have an answer for that,
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Speaker 1: Brady Chance, not so much, except to say that they've
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Speaker 1: had so much success running out of the shotgun now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's really become the key to the running
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Speaker 1: game that I think they like having, you know, that
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Speaker 1: threat to present to the defense, and it's cut down
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Speaker 1: in the number of times that Joe's gone empty. That's
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Speaker 1: a great point, because I think they knew that they
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Speaker 1: had to become more sustaining with their run game, you know,
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Speaker 1: because no matter how good burrowing the receivers are, it's
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Speaker 1: hard to be one dimensional every week and really win
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Speaker 1: when you start playing good defenses. And that's a great point.
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Speaker 1: You're probably right because they need to develop some kind
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Speaker 1: of sustainability with the run game, and they've been doing
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Speaker 1: that out of the shotguns, so obviously that demands a
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Speaker 1: back in the backfield. So they face the Buccaneers this week.
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is twenty eighth in the league and scoring,
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Speaker 1: and it's not because Tom Brady is forty five years old.
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Speaker 1: What problems are the Bucks having on offense? Well, they
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Speaker 1: have a lot. I mean, and I say that honestly.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know everything I say is based on tape.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's never anything more than that. This is
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Speaker 1: a team with pretty significant offensive problems. Number One, they
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Speaker 1: can't run the ball. Their first down run game is
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Speaker 1: among the worst in the league. This is a team
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Speaker 1: that has faced, on offense, the second most third downs
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Speaker 1: of any team in the league. They face fifteen third
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Speaker 1: downs per game. Dan that you don't want to be
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Speaker 1: in that situation. That's too many third downs on a
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Speaker 1: weekly basis, because defense is normally normally have the tactical
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Speaker 1: advantage when you're in third down unless you're in third, one, third,
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Speaker 1: and two, and that's not the case with the Bucks,
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Speaker 1: and quite honestly, Tom Brady has not played particularly well.
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Speaker 1: He's very conscious of pressure. The old line has obviously
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Speaker 1: been an ongoing issue. He's a pocket quarterback. He's not
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Speaker 1: going to move, so he's become very aware of it,
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Speaker 1: very conscious of it. He falls away from a lot
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Speaker 1: of throws. He's not a guy that's going to take sacks,
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Speaker 1: so he gets rid of the ball for incompletions, you know,
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Speaker 1: just because he won't get sacked. So this is an
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Speaker 1: offense that has multiple issues right now. The only thing
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Speaker 1: you can say, and it could happen any given week,
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Speaker 1: is they do have talented, skilled players. So could any
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Speaker 1: given week be the week that they hit some big
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Speaker 1: play touchdowns. It could. I mean, for your guy's sake,
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Speaker 1: you hope it's not this week. But for the most part,
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Speaker 1: when you watch that offense, it's they've got a number
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Speaker 1: of issues that they're really struggling to work through. Defensively,
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, they played pretty well. I think
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Speaker 1: nine of the thirteen opponents have scored twenty or less
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Speaker 1: in regulation. What do you think of the Bucks defense
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Speaker 1: and who stands out on that side of the ball. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they've had some issues in the secondary this year with injury,
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Speaker 1: so that's you know again, I don't know what the
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Speaker 1: situation is with you guys, with Higgins and Boyd obviously,
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Speaker 1: but I mean if if, if everybody's healthy, it's a
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Speaker 1: little bit of an issue for the Bucks because their
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Speaker 1: secondaries had some concerns. I mean, this past week they
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Speaker 1: started Delaney as their slot corner, which and I know
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Speaker 1: they don't want to do that, so I don't know
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Speaker 1: if he's going to be the guy again. I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure Dean got benched at halftime of the last game
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Speaker 1: because he did not play in the second half, and
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Speaker 1: I don't believe he was hurt. He was the one
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Speaker 1: who gave up the stutter go to Ayuk on the
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Speaker 1: final play of the first half for the forty nine ers,
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Speaker 1: so I think he was benched. And he's been up
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Speaker 1: and down this year. Davis is their best corner, their
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Speaker 1: most consistent corner. You know, their pass rush can be
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Speaker 1: really good. Todd Bowles is a master of blitz concepts
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Speaker 1: and he can hurt you any given week a blitz
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Speaker 1: that you haven't quite seen. And they'll be working on
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Speaker 1: that this week because Burrows incredibly smart, so Todd Bowles
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Speaker 1: will want to show something that Joe has not seen
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Speaker 1: on film. Now, Joe may be smart enough to recognize, hey,
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Speaker 1: that's a different look. This guy's in a spot I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen him before. That's an alert. We may you know,
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Speaker 1: Joe's smart enough to know that, or he may not
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Speaker 1: know that. You never know. You know, even the great
15:20
Speaker 1: ones at times get get confused by something they haven't seen.
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Speaker 1: But this defense is you know, last week they couldn't
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Speaker 1: stop the run. They couldn't stop the run at all
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Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers. So it's defensively they've also
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Speaker 1: been really erratic as well. It's just been things have
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Speaker 1: not worked for them this year really on either side
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Speaker 1: of the ball with any kind of consistency. So the
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Speaker 1: Bengals are looking for when number six in a row.
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Speaker 1: What are a few keys in your mind to Sunday's
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Speaker 1: game anytime you're talking about the Bengals. Even though we
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Speaker 1: talked about the run game, we know that the pass
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Speaker 1: game kind of drives it more often than not. You know,
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Speaker 1: Joe doesn't have to throw for three eighty for them
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Speaker 1: to win. But but they're a passing football. I mean,
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Speaker 1: even last week with everyone in the game with Taylor
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Speaker 1: in the game, they both hit some big plays. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're a throwing football team. They're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to make plays in the pass game, and I
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Speaker 1: think they can against this team. Now, the key is
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Speaker 1: protection because again the Bucks can rush the quarterback and
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Speaker 1: Bowls is a blitz defensive coach, so there is going
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Speaker 1: to be pressure concepts that they have to deal with.
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Speaker 1: So I think throwing the ball, they will have to
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Speaker 1: throw it and they will have to make some big
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Speaker 1: plays there. And then defensively, And I want to mention
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Speaker 1: one guy because I loved his tape coming out, But
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Speaker 1: I think Cam Taylor BRIT's going to be a really
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Speaker 1: good player. He's competitive, he's feisty, he's tough, he brings
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Speaker 1: a swagger to your defense. You know, obviously a woozy
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Speaker 1: you didn't want to lose him, but you know, Taylor
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Speaker 1: brit is a really good player and he's going to
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Speaker 1: be a starter there for quite some time. Bengals fans
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Speaker 1: love it when I have you as a guest. I
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Speaker 1: always appreciate your time. Look forward to seeing you at
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Speaker 1: the comb in Indianapolis. And thanks so much for joining
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Speaker 1: focus this week is the first and possibly only head
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Speaker 1: to head meeting between twenty seven year old Joe Burrow
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Speaker 1: and forty five year old Tom Brady. Brady has a
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Speaker 1: podcast that he does with veteran broadcaster Jim Gray called
17:36
Speaker 1: Let's Go, and last year, just before the Super Bowl,
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Speaker 1: they had Joe Burrow on as a guest. I think
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Speaker 1: Joe's got some tools that I didn't quite have when
17:45
Speaker 1: I was his age. So super impressed by how he's
17:48
Speaker 1: kind of coming to the league. In went to Cincinnati,
17:52
Speaker 1: which has been a tough place to play over the years,
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Speaker 1: and two years into his career after a really tough
17:57
Speaker 1: injury last year, show a lot of mental and physical
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Speaker 1: tough it's coming back and have an incredible season. So um,
18:04
Speaker 1: you know, I always love watching quarterbacks, and certainly young
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks because I feel like, you know, there's certain ways
18:10
Speaker 1: to play the game, and to play the game at
18:13
Speaker 1: a high level requires a huge commitment. I think Joe,
18:17
Speaker 1: even from when I saw him at LSU, you know,
18:19
Speaker 1: he makes that commitment. So it's a it's really a
18:22
Speaker 1: great thing for me to see as as you know,
18:24
Speaker 1: somebody who's played this game for a long time, so
18:26
Speaker 1: really happy for Joe and his team. Joe, when you
18:28
Speaker 1: hear those words from Tom, your reaction is, well, I
18:33
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I can be in
18:35
Speaker 1: the conversation with this guy yet, but you know, I'm
18:38
Speaker 1: gonna work really hard to try, and I think we're
18:40
Speaker 1: up to a great start. Tom Brady has been an
18:43
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback since Joe Burrow was four years old. Here's
18:47
Speaker 1: the Bengals QB on TB twelve. You gets the ball
18:50
Speaker 1: really fast. You know, he understands what he's looking at. Um.
18:55
Speaker 1: I think he epitomizes toughness at the quarterback position. He's
19:00
Speaker 1: a great leader. I mean, he's the greatest of all
19:03
Speaker 1: time for a reason. He's told package it's our fourteenth
19:06
Speaker 1: game of the season. You know, it's obviously, you know,
19:10
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback evers on the other side. But you know,
19:12
Speaker 1: we got a job to do too, and our job
19:14
Speaker 1: is gonna win. Get to ten and four and move on.
19:18
Speaker 1: And what does he think about the inevitable Brady Burrow comparisons?
19:22
Speaker 1: It is what it is. You don't really pay attention
19:24
Speaker 1: to it. He's Tom and I'm Joe. The Bengals Booth
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Speaker 1: your connection with all too Fiber. Last year, in his
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Speaker 1: twenty third NFL season, Tom Brady led the NFL in
19:45
Speaker 1: passing yards and touchdown passes. But this year, behind a
19:50
Speaker 1: makeshift offensive line, Brady and the Bucks have struggled to score.
19:54
Speaker 1: They've only topped twenty two points once all year. Will
19:59
Speaker 1: the Bengals defense let's add to the Bucks offensive woes.
20:02
Speaker 1: I caught up with safety Von Bell this week. Vin,
20:07
Speaker 1: you have played at a very high level for six
20:09
Speaker 1: plus years now in the NFL, but this year you've
20:11
Speaker 1: got four interceptions. You're tied for fourth on the league
20:13
Speaker 1: in that category. You're third on the Bengals and tackles
20:16
Speaker 1: right behind the linebackers. Do you feel like you're playing
20:19
Speaker 1: the best you've ever played in the NFL? I think so?
20:23
Speaker 1: What that it comes with this time in the league.
20:26
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really just growing as a young athlete
20:28
Speaker 1: in this league and just really just trying to progress
20:30
Speaker 1: year in the year out. So I think I'm hating
20:33
Speaker 1: the right direction. Let's go back to the interceptions for
20:35
Speaker 1: a second. Four this year. You've had three previously including
20:40
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but going back to your Ohio State days,
20:43
Speaker 1: you had nine in three years. Are the four interceptions
20:46
Speaker 1: this year the product of the way you're being deployed
20:50
Speaker 1: by Lou and Rumo. For sure. You always trying to
20:52
Speaker 1: put the safeties in the best position to make plays.
20:55
Speaker 1: Hats all town, You know, we always want to make plays.
20:57
Speaker 1: Me and Jesse and I just want to be just
21:00
Speaker 1: energy for the defensive feed off of and I always
21:03
Speaker 1: just want to make plays with each other. So, uh yeah,
21:05
Speaker 1: hats out there, just put me in a position to
21:06
Speaker 1: make plays. You've played ninety nine percent of the defensive snaps.
21:11
Speaker 1: You came out in a couple of the lopsided games,
21:13
Speaker 1: but that's it. Of your various attributes, how high do
21:17
Speaker 1: you rank reliability and durability very high because I think
21:22
Speaker 1: when I first came in, just leaving my coach at
21:25
Speaker 1: the time, I always said the best availability is availability
21:28
Speaker 1: and just always just want to stay healthy and stay durable,
21:31
Speaker 1: stay in the weight room, just being healthy because yeah,
21:34
Speaker 1: put the armone out there because it's a tough war
21:36
Speaker 1: and for those sixty minutes. But I always just want
21:38
Speaker 1: to be just available and just ready and durable because
21:41
Speaker 1: that's stickul to throughout the league. Were visiting the von
21:44
Speaker 1: Bell you mentioned Jesse Bates. You two guys form one
21:47
Speaker 1: of the best safety combos in the NFL. What do
21:50
Speaker 1: you enjoy about working with Jesse and do the two
21:53
Speaker 1: of you fit just extremely well together? Oh? Man, that's
21:57
Speaker 1: my guy, always thinking. I like, I want to make plays.
22:01
Speaker 1: We always tell each other before every game as we
22:04
Speaker 1: go they go and just want to be the leaders,
22:08
Speaker 1: be the generals back there commanding things, and I just
22:11
Speaker 1: want guys to just always just play better and up
22:14
Speaker 1: to the standard when we back there and as everybody,
22:17
Speaker 1: just want to command everybody, to keep everybody accountable and
22:20
Speaker 1: just really just feeding off each other and really playing
22:22
Speaker 1: off each other. And that's what we do very well. Together.
22:24
Speaker 1: The secondary lost one of the best cover corners in
22:27
Speaker 1: the league when chittabe Wuja towards a se all against Cleveland.
22:30
Speaker 1: And yet you've managed to win five games in a
22:32
Speaker 1: row since you've known n Eelie Apple for a long
22:36
Speaker 1: time Ohio State in New Orleans. Has he taken it
22:39
Speaker 1: up a notch since Cheetah went down? Yes, because he's
22:43
Speaker 1: the oldest corner now and so better in presence these
22:47
Speaker 1: nas is a game, and you know he had to
22:49
Speaker 1: step it up even more because we had a lot
22:51
Speaker 1: of young guys in the room and it's really just
22:53
Speaker 1: the culture in our room and the standard that we have,
22:55
Speaker 1: and we always say, we're gonna need all these guys
22:58
Speaker 1: in this room. That's what you're here for to be
23:00
Speaker 1: in his room, in his NFL locker room, because it's
23:03
Speaker 1: gonna be a time at a moment in place where
23:04
Speaker 1: we're gonna need somebody young guy, older guy, that doesn't matter.
23:08
Speaker 1: All hands on the deck. That's what we always talk
23:10
Speaker 1: and it's just really just the standing alone room. It
23:13
Speaker 1: just hats off to the coaches and hats off to
23:15
Speaker 1: the guys that's really taking the calum building in their job.
23:17
Speaker 1: So that's the biggest thing, and guys really take it serious,
23:20
Speaker 1: never to care for one another. Rookie camp Taylor brid
23:23
Speaker 1: has moved into the starting lineup. His locker is next
23:26
Speaker 1: to yours. What do you like about the kid for Nebraska?
23:28
Speaker 1: He go fight and he always want a chance. He
23:31
Speaker 1: always want an opportunity and he's gonna make most of it.
23:34
Speaker 1: He always tell me, give me the call, go play
23:35
Speaker 1: for you. He gonna play hard, So I always I'll
23:38
Speaker 1: always count on him in my corner. He gonna throw
23:40
Speaker 1: his hat in there, he gonna throw his shoulder in there.
23:41
Speaker 1: He'll give you all the guy and uh for those
23:43
Speaker 1: sixty minutes and um, you know, he just always want
23:45
Speaker 1: to make him play and um and I love that biom.
23:48
Speaker 1: He's fiery, a lot of energy and um he's just
23:51
Speaker 1: eager to make that play and keep on progression. This
23:53
Speaker 1: week in this league, week can and week out. He
23:56
Speaker 1: had to Tampa Bay to take on the Buccaneers this Sunday.
23:59
Speaker 1: If I'm reck you faced Tom Brady once before in
24:02
Speaker 1: your career. He had a good game, three touchdown passes
24:04
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. What stood out about facing him
24:07
Speaker 1: head to head? Oh man, he's got probably won't arguably
24:11
Speaker 1: the greatest quarter right to every bloody game. He's seen
24:13
Speaker 1: a lot he'd been in there for two decades, Uh,
24:16
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of coaches. You know, he played a
24:18
Speaker 1: lot of ball. He gonna know what you're in, like
24:21
Speaker 1: Lui said today, and uh, he's just go You gotta
24:23
Speaker 1: think of all the beaters that's gonna come off of
24:25
Speaker 1: that and they go run what he likes and um
24:27
Speaker 1: so you always got to accept the challenge. That's what
24:30
Speaker 1: we're here for, to be the best of what we do,
24:33
Speaker 1: and we go play the best of what he does
24:34
Speaker 1: at this very moment. And um, you know, um so
24:38
Speaker 1: what what what? What an opportunity? What a challenge for
24:41
Speaker 1: the group? And I know guys are looking forward to
24:43
Speaker 1: it because we know we won't make plays on the
24:45
Speaker 1: ball for sure come from him. On this last tour,
24:48
Speaker 1: at the end of their game last week against San Francisco,
24:51
Speaker 1: it looked like a receiving line. I mean, one guy
24:53
Speaker 1: after the other was approaching him. They're asking him to
24:56
Speaker 1: sign their jersey. I think a guy that intercepted him
24:58
Speaker 1: asked him and signed the ball. Do you anticipate something
25:01
Speaker 1: similar this week? If I get what I know, I'm
25:04
Speaker 1: gonna get one this week. I'm gonna manifest that. I'll
25:07
Speaker 1: probably just send him the mail. I'll probably send the mail.
25:12
Speaker 1: But but it's just it's greatness, and you gotta respect greatness.
25:16
Speaker 1: And uh man, that's what we're doing for like I said,
25:18
Speaker 1: and he just wanted the greatest. Every probably put on
25:20
Speaker 1: the helmet and play that position. So you know, we're
25:23
Speaker 1: admired them from far, but at the end of the day,
25:25
Speaker 1: we gotta get the job done. A couple more questions
25:27
Speaker 1: for vine Bell. You famously have a first guy in
25:30
Speaker 1: the building work ethic, and your teammates greatly admire that.
25:34
Speaker 1: Do you need an alarm clock at this point or
25:36
Speaker 1: do you just naturally roll out of bed at five
25:38
Speaker 1: fifteen or five thirty whatever? It is not a long
25:41
Speaker 1: it's always on. This naturally just always stays on. But
25:44
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I just beat along and always up so
25:46
Speaker 1: they give me a look cute to get out the
25:48
Speaker 1: door by that time. So, um man, just come here
25:51
Speaker 1: to work and um mans. I love it, love the process,
25:55
Speaker 1: um and just just love being in it. And uh
25:57
Speaker 1: because I always tell them it's a chef life because
26:00
Speaker 1: this thing goes by so fast. I was telling one
26:02
Speaker 1: of the rooks the other day, I said, I remember
26:04
Speaker 1: when I was rooking. I came in now year seven,
26:06
Speaker 1: it's just blinking an eye, just having too much fun
26:08
Speaker 1: and building relationships and building brotherhoods. That's go last of lifetime.
26:12
Speaker 1: So really just enjoy the moment and stay in the
26:14
Speaker 1: moment and maximize the moment. You just turned twenty eighth
26:17
Speaker 1: this week. Happy birthday. By the way, you are still
26:19
Speaker 1: a young man, but you have a presence on this team.
26:23
Speaker 1: The young guys kind of look at you as the
26:24
Speaker 1: wise sense. Do you enjoy that at times? But I
26:28
Speaker 1: also want to give my age away because you know
26:31
Speaker 1: that mark. They always try to I guess, let's scared
26:34
Speaker 1: all you're getting older but still young. Hard to upbeat it,
26:37
Speaker 1: and I take it on just as some more to
26:40
Speaker 1: my plate. I accept it, just really just I always
26:44
Speaker 1: tell them I'm here to serve and trying to give
26:47
Speaker 1: all my knowledge from all the failure successes, trying to
26:50
Speaker 1: give it to the important until you so you'd be
26:52
Speaker 1: better than me and you take that next step, when
26:54
Speaker 1: you take that next that leap until your your next
26:57
Speaker 1: you know, progression in your career. So all want to
27:00
Speaker 1: feed into the young guys and always give him back.
27:02
Speaker 1: One of the best free agent acquisitions this franchise ever made.
27:06
Speaker 1: Congratulations on another great season. Best of left the rest
27:09
Speaker 1: of the way. Thank you so much. The Steelers, Ravens,
27:13
Speaker 1: and Browns all have wins over Tampa Bay this year.
27:15
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Bengals can make at four for
27:17
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Speaker 1: week's No The Faux segment. Scott Smith covers the Bucks
27:35
Speaker 1: for Fox thirteen in Tampa and he joined Dave Lappam
27:38
Speaker 1: and Wayne box Miller this week on the Bengals Game
27:40
Speaker 1: Plan Show. Here's Scott on where things stand for the
27:44
Speaker 1: six and seven Buccaneers. Well, I think getting to the
27:48
Speaker 1: playoffs is kind of the first hurdle that they need
27:51
Speaker 1: to reach. I mean, this team has been so inconsistent
27:53
Speaker 1: this year, and while there is a bulk of that
27:57
Speaker 1: attention that's going to be directed toward the play of Brady,
28:00
Speaker 1: I mean, really, this is this is a comprehensive failure
28:05
Speaker 1: in terms of what this year has been. The consistency
28:07
Speaker 1: has just not been there. We have. You know, it
28:10
Speaker 1: started early on in the season when when pieces of
28:12
Speaker 1: that offensive line started to go down. Now you only
28:14
Speaker 1: have one of the previous five starters from last year
28:18
Speaker 1: in their left tackle Downovan Smith, and he might be
28:21
Speaker 1: having his worst season yet as a pro. So I
28:25
Speaker 1: think it for Brady it starts up front, the confidence
28:28
Speaker 1: that he has in his offensive line. He's he's not
28:30
Speaker 1: one that's going to stay back there in the pocket
28:32
Speaker 1: and take a sack, and so I think he's maybe
28:35
Speaker 1: rushing things a little bit to avoid the sack, just
28:38
Speaker 1: to make sure that he maintains his longevity. And when
28:42
Speaker 1: you when you do that, players are not receivers are
28:46
Speaker 1: not getting open. There's I think there's a lot of
28:48
Speaker 1: opportunities missed when he's not able to take a little
28:52
Speaker 1: bit longer of a drop, And so I think speeding
28:55
Speaker 1: the offensive plays up a little bit has hurt this team.
28:58
Speaker 1: There's really there's no dynamic playmaker in this offense right now,
29:02
Speaker 1: which says a lot given this team had one of
29:04
Speaker 1: the best offenses in the league last year, but their
29:06
Speaker 1: production this year there, you know, aftercan about seventeen points
29:09
Speaker 1: a game, and last week against the forty nine ers,
29:12
Speaker 1: they were lucky to get one touchdown. It was a
29:14
Speaker 1: bobbled catch in the end zone. So this has just
29:17
Speaker 1: been a struggle for Brady and this offense to find consistency,
29:22
Speaker 1: to find help, and even when guys are out there
29:25
Speaker 1: and playing, we have errant throws and drop balls and
29:30
Speaker 1: flags that are calling plays back. So it's just it's
29:34
Speaker 1: been a comprehensive lit down this year, especially offensively. Defensively,
29:38
Speaker 1: it's a it's a little bit different story. But they
29:41
Speaker 1: seem to remain hopeful that they can find their winning
29:45
Speaker 1: ways of years past and turn something around here late
29:48
Speaker 1: in the season and grab a little bit of momentum.
29:50
Speaker 1: But at this point, getting to the playoffs is going
29:53
Speaker 1: to be still a hurdle for this team. You mentioned
29:56
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith. He's got more holding penalties than any other
30:00
Speaker 1: lineman in the National Football League, and honestly, watching tape,
30:04
Speaker 1: they're not calling all of them. This dude is a
30:06
Speaker 1: holding machine. I mean he is grabbing people out there
30:09
Speaker 1: and he has been called you know frequently, but not
30:14
Speaker 1: as bad as it could be. You're exactly right, and
30:16
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, it's just I guess
30:19
Speaker 1: it's one of those years worse got the ankle problem.
30:21
Speaker 1: But he'll probably go. He'll probably be able to go.
30:24
Speaker 1: Here's an interesting stat on Brady though. When Brady gets
30:28
Speaker 1: rid of the football in less than two and a
30:30
Speaker 1: half seconds, which is quick, he gets the ball out
30:32
Speaker 1: quickly though he's a chuck and duck guy. He didn't
30:35
Speaker 1: want to get hit at forty five years old. When
30:37
Speaker 1: he gets it out in less than two and a
30:38
Speaker 1: half seconds, seventy eight percent completion percentage of eleven touchdowns
30:42
Speaker 1: when it's over two and a half seconds drops to
30:45
Speaker 1: fifty one percent in only three touchdowns Tom Brady, it's like,
30:50
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much he trusts that offensive line
30:53
Speaker 1: and like you said, everything that's going on around him.
30:56
Speaker 1: But man, if he didn't get that ball out like pronto,
30:59
Speaker 1: it's issues, isn't it? Yeah? It is. And he doesn't,
31:04
Speaker 1: obviously at forty five want to be taking sacks at
31:06
Speaker 1: this age. He didn't. He didn't come back to have
31:08
Speaker 1: a season ended with injury, so he's cognizant of that.
31:12
Speaker 1: And there are some young guys there there Their center
31:16
Speaker 1: is a second year guy and he's done an admirable job,
31:19
Speaker 1: but he's filling in for for a Pro Bowl center
31:21
Speaker 1: in Ryan Jensen, Robert Haynes. He's the guy that's filling in.
31:24
Speaker 1: You know, there there everybody, I mean, everybody's new, especially
31:28
Speaker 1: now ye have right tackle. I mean, I don't believe
31:30
Speaker 1: actually Tristan Worfs is going to play this week. He
31:33
Speaker 1: was autter practice field today, kind of running around a
31:36
Speaker 1: little bit, but he's dealing with a high ankle sprain.
31:38
Speaker 1: He's been out two and a half weeks now. If
31:40
Speaker 1: you were to make it back in time for Sunday's game,
31:43
Speaker 1: I would be shocked. I think they would still wait
31:46
Speaker 1: another week with worth. So you're still looking at kind
31:49
Speaker 1: of this. You know, Hodgepodge offensive line And to your
31:53
Speaker 1: point about Donovan Smith, he says that he is dealing
31:57
Speaker 1: with something. That's what he took reporters in the week. Now.
32:01
Speaker 1: He didn't give any more details. I'm not sure if
32:03
Speaker 1: that's an injury thing. If it's maybe one of those
32:06
Speaker 1: situations where he's saying, if you only knew what injury
32:09
Speaker 1: I'm playing through right now, then maybe you would understand
32:11
Speaker 1: why this is the case, he didn't. He didn't delve
32:14
Speaker 1: into any of those details. But you know the issue
32:18
Speaker 1: is is he better than the guy that's behind him?
32:21
Speaker 1: And that point was brought up to Todd Holes today
32:24
Speaker 1: after practice and says, we're going with the guy that's
32:27
Speaker 1: going to give us the best shot to win. And
32:29
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith is that guy at left tackle right now,
32:32
Speaker 1: so they don't have a better option. If they did,
32:34
Speaker 1: they'd go there. Scott Smith, Fox thirteen Sports director joined
32:38
Speaker 1: us live from Tampa Bay. You know, Scott, this defense,
32:41
Speaker 1: Devin White a guy that is as advertised, and you
32:45
Speaker 1: have one of our Cincinnati products and Mike eb was there,
32:48
Speaker 1: but do you think that this defense has the ability
32:52
Speaker 1: to stop an offense like to Cincinnati Bengers. Not if
32:57
Speaker 1: they're down for defensive backs, And that's kind of where
33:01
Speaker 1: they are right now. We're still Antoine Winfield, Junior Mike Edwards,
33:06
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting, and then cornerback Jamel Dean, all those
33:09
Speaker 1: guys uncertain about their status for this week. So this
33:14
Speaker 1: defense has been been good. They've kept their team in
33:19
Speaker 1: games this year, but they just haven't been consistent. And
33:24
Speaker 1: last week we saw against the forty nine ers a
33:26
Speaker 1: team that, really, especially at the back end, black discipline,
33:28
Speaker 1: and so without a fully healthy defense, I'm not sure
33:34
Speaker 1: exactly what you expect that lush shack Barrett edge rusher
33:37
Speaker 1: Earlier this year, they've kind of hobbled some pieces together
33:40
Speaker 1: with a second year outside linebacker on Joe Tryon Shoenca
33:45
Speaker 1: who hasn't really lived up to expectations, even the first
33:47
Speaker 1: round draft pick. On the other side, they got Carl Nassib,
33:50
Speaker 1: a guy they kind of picked up the scrap heap,
33:52
Speaker 1: a guy that knew this defense because he had played
33:54
Speaker 1: for the Bucks previously. But they're not able to generate
33:58
Speaker 1: the rush up front, and even their interior defensive linemen
34:02
Speaker 1: are Beta Vea is doubtful for this week, and he's
34:07
Speaker 1: of course the big man in the middle. He's the
34:09
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna really help slow down the run, but
34:11
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a calf strain from last week. So
34:14
Speaker 1: Ty Bowles saying today that he doubts that beat is
34:16
Speaker 1: going to be back for this game. So if they're
34:18
Speaker 1: fully healthy, then yeah, I'll put this fucks defense up
34:21
Speaker 1: against anybody. I'm not sure that they're in their ability
34:24
Speaker 1: to slow down a red hot Cincinnati Bengals offense right now,
34:27
Speaker 1: but they're not fully healthy. And so this is what
34:30
Speaker 1: it feels like to me right now, because we may
34:33
Speaker 1: be seeing something more similar to what we saw last
34:35
Speaker 1: week when they visited San Francisco, that it could get
34:38
Speaker 1: out of hand and it could get ugly early. And
34:41
Speaker 1: this team is not a seam that really can fight
34:44
Speaker 1: from from behind them. They have to be front runners,
34:46
Speaker 1: in my opinion, to really give themselves a chance. And
34:51
Speaker 1: so we'll see, We'll see what happens in the opening
34:53
Speaker 1: quarter of this game. Those first couple of drives I
34:55
Speaker 1: think could set the tenor for the game. Yeah, it's
34:58
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be interest. The Bengals are seven and
35:01
Speaker 1: oh this year when they score first, so they want
35:03
Speaker 1: to play with the league, you know. And they're six
35:05
Speaker 1: and oh when they lead after the first quarter. So
35:07
Speaker 1: if they can jump out to an early start. I'll
35:09
Speaker 1: tell you these two linebackers though, Devin White and Lavante David,
35:13
Speaker 1: they've played every snap defensively. These guys can run. These
35:17
Speaker 1: guys come downhill, they run to the football. That that's
35:20
Speaker 1: two very good linebackers. But if you're heard up front
35:23
Speaker 1: with via who's really good and on the back end.
35:25
Speaker 1: I mean, there's only so much you can do. But
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Todd Bowles fourteen different guys have
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Speaker 1: at least a half a sack and Todd Bowles defense
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Speaker 1: fourteen and the defensive lineman, linebackers, cornerbacks, safeties. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. He's bringing them from everywhere and he's the guy.
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Speaker 1: He's a guy like the offensive coaches. They say, all right,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna make simple things look difficult, difficult things look simple.
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Speaker 1: That's what Bowls does with all of his different looks
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Speaker 1: and everything that he does. I have a lot of
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Speaker 1: respect for him as a defensive coach. What do the
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Speaker 1: players think about him in his defensive mind, Well, I
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Speaker 1: think that they admire coach Bowls and I think you
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Speaker 1: hit on it. As a defensive coordinator, he's one of
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Speaker 1: the best in the game. The problem is when that
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Speaker 1: how that translator translates over as as a head coach,
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Speaker 1: and when you're leading an entire room versus just um,
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Speaker 1: you know, working on your defensive game plant. So he
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Speaker 1: very much is still a defensive coordinator for this team.
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Speaker 1: So Larry Foote kind of takes on a co defensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator role for this team, but top Bles is still
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator U. So he's oversight as head coach.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not where it should be, UM, but he does.
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Speaker 1: He draws up obviously exotic flitzes and disguise looks, and
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Speaker 1: you know, players on the defensive end love playing for
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Speaker 1: him because it's going to give them an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: fly off the edge or run a stunt up the middle. UM.
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Speaker 1: And you know, with with teams that aren't wise to
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Speaker 1: playing against Todd Goles defense, Uh, they can read haboc
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Speaker 1: and they they've been able to get to the quarterback
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, an ample amount of times this year.
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Speaker 1: And they do it with a handful of different guys.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the middle of that defense, LaMonte David Devin,
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Speaker 1: why those are the two main stays. Those guys that
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Speaker 1: remained healthy, they fly around. But if your defensive line
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Speaker 1: is allowing you know, alignment to run free, that it
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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter because you can't fill those holes. You
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Speaker 1: can't stop that run. And that's part of the issue.
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Speaker 1: So it's it's a total team thing. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: know it's cliche, but this the team has stars on it,
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Speaker 1: and those stars have certainly not played like stars this year,
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Speaker 1: and the fan base is frustrated. Everybody's searching for answers,
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's a lot more nuanced than
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Speaker 1: one guy will one side of the ball. It's it's
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Speaker 1: all across the board that's going to do it. For
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