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AEW Talent Released | AEW Dynamite Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for Ignition with AW
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Fan Hobbs podcast team. This is Kelson and this is Alex, and we
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are going to talk about something that I think we all thought was coming at
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some point. I know I did. We're talking about releases, AAW's first
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ever big batch of releases. I think they've released a person here or there
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before, but never like this. It's kind of like what we've seen from
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WWE in the past, like one day of just ten, twelve, fifteen
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people getting released, and now aw's kind of done the same thing. But
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you know what compare just a quick question, Alex compared to a like a
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W releases to w w's releases, I just fell over my tongue like Mercedes
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Bonet on Wednesday night. Compared to a W releases to w DOT. I'm
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gonna get this out one way or another. To w W, I I
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feel like that guy from Liberty Mutual Commercials. It's not a star studded list
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of releases, right exactly. There's not that much of it. I mean
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it's an impact, of course to the wrestlers, But do you feel you
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guys fields impactful to the shows themselves. Like I will say, I don't
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think there's anyone that is looking at this list and being like, oh wow,
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w W he needs to pick up gravity or right right, I don't
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think is with the Triple A now right he was there, people were saying
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like, aw, put him on loans, So maybe he's just there for
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for good now or for an extended time. Yeah, but what do you
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say, I'm going to give the for me. The people that I that
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I think would be missed the most that to me added the most to the
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show, and not even ae W because they're barely featured, was the Boys,
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just because that's such a big part of Dalton Castle. And I think
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Dalton Castle's a guy that you can I mean, he's mostly been on R
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O H and probably the most entertaining part of that show in a lot of
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ways. And if you have him on Collision or Dynamite, I think people
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like to see him. So But but I mean, they could be anyone.
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You could have anyone be the Boys, So it's like it's a right,
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yeah, yeah, I don't see anybody on this list that you know
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is going to make an impact anywhere. Yeah either either I mean they they
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I mean, Gosha. I understand people, you know, she messed up
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or whatever a couple of times. But that's the probably the biggest impact because
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it's gonna change Saturday night. Other than that, I'm sitting there going,
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who are these guys? Okay, and there's like eight of them and there
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everybody's making it. Oh they're so it made massive layoffs. Park of RDA
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never really hit hit big and stuff. He uh, he was swore for
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a while and he never went sailing he was supposed to. Uh. And
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the guy he was with, Slim j H for the r O H guy
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kind of had a weird gimmick. So I don't see anybody boys were kind
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of weird. But I could see that because they're you know, they're not
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needed. Uh yeah, because one of the people, like Alex made the
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point. I've heard other people make the point that anybody could be the boys.
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Yeah, you know, and like what Sutton said about Dasha, I
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mean, well, we made the post about it on on the aw fan
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Hub subreddit. By far, Dasha and the Boys got the most oh no
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responses. Of course Anthony Henry did too, but by far the most went
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to the boys and to Dasha. And like with Dasha, you know,
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people are like, why did she well, aw did hire and I may
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mess up her name and I and I apologize? Where our Katie or Aura
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or Aurora to be their new ring announcer. They did that several weeks ago,
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and I believe she has done some work on Ring of Honor recently.
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But you know, if you go on our life chats, I mean we
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were making comments all the time on our live chats. Boy, Dasha really
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is messing up, you know. So, I mean it's as simple as
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that. I mean, she really was making some mistakes like calling wrestlers by
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the wrong name and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, I mean that
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one, that's the one that makes me the saddest to think about it,
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just because like I went to the live show and you see her there and
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she's like interacting with the crowd like in between breaks. So she's really out
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of all these people, like part of the show the most. But right,
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yeah, is she is she a big loss? I don't. I
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don't think so, Like, yeah, she's probably the most visible in the
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live shows, right, but yeah, you know, look, why do
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you think they did these releases? I mean, obviously Tony Kahan has the
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money, so he doesn't need to cut people to save money. You know,
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it's not like he was gonna go under if he kept these people on.
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What what reasons do you see for the releases of these wrestlers and talents
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I see. I saw an article the first time I saw them saying about
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it. They were saying, well, they and I didn't see who was
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released. I just saw the releases or that they had made releases, and
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they were saying it was they wanted to make room for allowing the talent who's
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still there more time. I thought, after I saw the reason, I'm
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going, wait a minute, these guys, these people aren't even being used
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on aw that makes no sense. And I think it was uh, I'm
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not sure which one it was I saw, but I just it was just
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weird. I think it's just I don't know, maybe just to clear up
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the roster a little bit of the people that aren't being used, I guess,
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mm hmm. Like they have a lot of people in the roster,
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and like some of these names you look at, like Gravity, like they
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had so many Lutra doors and then they brought Gravity and like he wrestled and
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he was clearly probably the worst of the luchadors that they signed, and really,
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yeah, like compared to like El Hyo, Dovi Kingo and Bambando and
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Ruche and Commander and like Andrade l Idolo when they had him, like he
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was clearly the worst of them. I think he's Bandido's brother, and yeah,
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like Joe's Jose the assistant. Like did they really need him as a
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manager as well? They have so many managers? Yeah, it's yeah,
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it's hard. Like clearly, I think if they went backstage and they had
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the management of AW and they're like, Okay, we're gonna rate the ten
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worst people on a list, and then they all compiled the other list,
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it probably looked like this, And like Stu Grayson, he's not the worst,
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but he's not even he doesn't have a visa to be in America,
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Like how can you keep him on sore too? So uh yeah, you
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know, I really feel like I really feel like this is the this is
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AW kind of testing the waters and see how people will respond to these.
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Uh. You know, for years everybody would cry, moan and wail over
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every single WWE release, and I thinks to them saying, Okay, I
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realized this is first of all business. And you know, my opinion,
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this is good for Tony Conna started doing because he needs to realize that not
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everybody can be on the roster, and then he needs to shorten down.
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I could see a few months later there's some more cuts, slowly but surely
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weeding down the roster because it needs weed it down. Uh you know,
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but that's one of the biggest drives about Tony is that he wants to keep
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everybody. And I think he's finally realized this is the business and he has
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to do the right thing and kind of cut out people. No, I
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agree with you, but I don't agree with what you said, Alex about
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them cutting the worst. And I know you didn't really mean that, but
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like like you said it, but you know, it's just that the ones
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that are wrestlers in this list are frankly their jobbers. And aw has a
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wealth of jobbers and we always complain about predictable job matches in our live chats.
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Well, this may actually cut down on jobber matches because you're paying these
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people. You want to get them into the ring and get your money's worth
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out of them. But it's not good for ratings. So, hey,
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it is what it is, but I want to move on because on collision
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we saw Ricky Stark's which looked to me like a clear audible take the pin
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due to an injury, which he later said that he's fine and there's nothing
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to worry about. They were just taking p cautions, which is a good
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thing. I'm happy they did it. But from all from what I've seen
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and heard, it looks like the ending was audibled, and actually Ricky Stark's
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A Big Bill were booked to win that match. And now we've got you
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know, Top Flight going on to face the Bucks and FTR face Yeah.
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Yeah, it's best best friends going on to chain to take on the Bucks
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and FTR and top Flight going on. So do you think that this kind
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of changed the trajectory of the of this tournament? Do you think that Ricky
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Stark's A Big Bill, had they won this match, would have gone on
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to the finals. No, No, Yeah, I think I think the
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only thing it did was moved top Light ahead one match, and I don't
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think it's going to change the overall tournament at all. Yeah, I'm I'm
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pretty surprised. Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised. That the plan was for
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Ricky Starks and Big Bill to go on and have a match with FTR again,
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and I'm surprised. Yeah, Like I feel like top play. It
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makes more sense for them to go on, and it makes more sense to
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build up teams that are more interesting because like Ricky Starks and Big Bill were
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kind of a dud team in my opinion. They didn't really do anything for
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the Belts. They really like tankd the Belts in a lot of ways in
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my opinion. So I mean, I'm happy that they're not going on,
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Like I like those guys independently, but wrestlers, right, yeah, exactly.
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And I've been getting a bad vibe from Ricky Starks lately. I don't
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know if I'm reading too much into things, but it seems like his uh
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eyeser on the door. I wonder I wonder if him calling an audible is
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even part of that, like maybe a bad attitude and just not wanting to
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participate finding it out in a bad way. So I don't want to put
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kindling into the fire. But that's yeah, Like here's my conspiracy theory,
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but I don't want to come up with a conspiracy theory. Yeah, that's
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the vibe that I get. So it's yeah, I mean he's doing with
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Cody, and I can see it happening. I don't it wouldn't be a
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huge devastating loss for him to go. I like when he puts out,
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but he's really went downhill after a while with his promos. Uh. I
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just think he wants to be elsewhere, And if he wants to try to
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shot at the other place, that's fine. I don't see him going far
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as he thinks he will, but we you know, we'll, we'll,
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we'll see. That's a great thing about having two companies like that, they
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can go back and forth, right. Yeah. And then and like you
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said, Alex and okay, he is he's not been the same. I'd
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say he's not been the same since the he was working with uh Well and
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all those guys and working with Taz, and then once he got away from
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Taz, he had a little bit of good you know run there, and
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then all of a sudden he just they started having the rumors that he's leaving
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and and and after that it was just like, well, I I'm out
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the door. I'm just gonna slide by and see what I have to do.
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And and go from there. So and I honestly think that top Flight
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is one of the better teams in aw. Their problem is they've had injuries,
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so you know, they haven't been able to show what they can do
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together for so long. So maybe them. Yeah, well, you know,
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here's the thing with Ricky Starks though, I mean, he's been the
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victim of misfortune for the last god six to eight months. I mean,
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he was working with CM Punk and Sampunk was doing a good job getting him
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over and then sempunk. You know, whatever happened to CM punk and before
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that, if I'm not mistaken, he was I can't remember who he was
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doing a program with, but that person got injured as well. You know,
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so every time that he got into a some kind of story, something
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happened to the story that was not his fault. That's true. And yeah,
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and that's that's the thing sometimes people overlook is even like what exactly was
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his injury? Someone I heard say it was a stinger. That was a
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way I get. I don't know, I've heard different things. Yeah,
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But anyway, let's let's move on kind of chipped gears here, because we've
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got for Bidden Door coming up, and we've got CMLL, and you know
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that that aw sent the Matt Sidell and Brian Danielson and John Moxley to Mexico
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and they had a really really great match in CMLL. And then you have
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Stardom who sent me orship Mina Shirakawa to the United States and she wrestled a
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couple of weeks ago for Ring of Honor, and now it's Super Card of
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Honor on Friday night. We've got an all stardom, three women, six
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women tag match going on. And well, the question is is that I'm
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kind of excited about these Stardom women coming into AW you And the other question
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is who would benefit from a w women going and wrestling and spending some time
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in stardom. That's a good question. Yeah, well, you know,
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I think it's a good showcase anybody knew, just to get anybody out there.
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But if we're asking who could go to start them, I think,
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along with Jack Perry, I think Anna j should go over. I think
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it would help her a lot and give her an edge, teach her a
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little bit more about what she needs to know, and so you know,
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if she's been stuck with different people, she's never really been by herself that
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much. She was stuck in the Jericho Appreciation Society and stuff, and Jericho
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tried to work with her. But I think Anna J is the main one
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who I would send over. Okay, yeah, that's a good choice.
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M Yeah, I definitely agree with Anna J. Another one that comes to
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mind and like, and I think she's great already, but she's young and
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could probably really benefit from more experience, would be like sky Blue. Yeah,
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Like, I think she's great, but I think having that like extra
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seasoning and experience would be great as well. And that's the thing Stardom is.
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The that's what Stardom is. You know, it's a women's wrestling company,
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and anybody that's not involved in the main aw stuff could benefit from going
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over there, you know, it doesn't I don't know. Those two are
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great. I'm not sure there's anybody that I could say after that it would
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be like that would I mean, you couldn't really say anybody that wouldn't benefit,
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you know what I mean? Now, Well, have you guys watched
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startup matches before? Do you have experience more startups? I've seen like two?
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Yeah, Well, in my opinion, Stardom is known for for a
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couple of things. One is the pageantry. I mean, they put like
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they're on the level of Rick Flair's robes. When they come out of the
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tunnel and come to the ring, it's an event kind of thing. You
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know. They are really hamming it up. They're really doing great jobs with
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their entrances. The second thing is is that they're surprisingly hard hitting. I
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mean, I'm gonna put it to you this way, I'd much rather watch
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a Stardom match than an AW or WWE match. I've not really seen a
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CMLLL women's match, but Stardom just blows AW and WWE bottom of water in
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my opinion. So when I think of ae W women that could go to
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stardom, I look at that kind of thing, who's hard hitting and or
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has the pageant try. I can think of two women that I think would
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really benefit from stardom. One is Abadon. She's the exact kind of thing
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that stardom would thrive on with the character. She would be a big hit
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and start them with just her character alone. The second person is Red Velvet.
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I think Red Velvet would learn a lot in stardom, and I think
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she would actually shine and start them. And I do agree with you guys
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with Ada Jay and if they can send these women over on like a rotating
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basis, that would be great. I would love to see Stardom women come
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on a rotating basis to AW. I think that's the plan. I honestly
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do, because they made not a giant deal about it. But when they
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you know, that was during Big Business. They had the guy from Stardom
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there, and I was looking forward to them saying something on the show because
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that, to me is kind of an important thing that they're having a working
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relationship with a company that has that history, you know what I mean.
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So, but they never were really blew it up out of the water,
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but I think it. I think it's I think that's what their plan has
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been, is to maybe even have a bigger working relationship with Stardom than they
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have with Light New Japan. Oh yeah, definitely. I mean Stardom look
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at Stardom, you know with a Rossio Gowa or Gawa Rossi leaving the start
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as old promotily didn't leave. He got fired, but he is starting his
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own promotion. And there are I believe there was five women that left Stardom
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at the end the marchiners. I know Julia is leaving in the middle of
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April to go on her own as well, so Stardom's roster is definitely depleted
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a little bit. Now. There are a lot of these women that are
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very much dedicated and loyal to Stardom, so they would definitely benefit from aw
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Ring of Honor women going over to Japan to participate in Stardom events. One
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of the things about this match on Supercard of Honor, there's a couple things
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that I want to point out because this is definitely a match that I am
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looking forward to a lot. Because these women hit hard. They just a
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difference that you will see in this match. They hit hard. Many of
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these women are multiple time champions in Stardom. These are not newbies. Even
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though there are a couple that are very young, like twenty one twenty two
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years old, some of them are seasoned veterans and champions. The other thing
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that I wanted to put point out on this is that on opposite sides is
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Mina Shirakawa and sa Saya Kamatani. I can't speak today. Two years ago,
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Saya Kamatani hit Mina Shirakawa with a phoenix splash, did not get the
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pin, went back to the top rope and here with this another phoenix splash,
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and in a move that was reminiscent, very reminiscent of Sammy Guevara and
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what happened between him and Jeff Hardy, Saya Kamatani came down on Mina Shirakawa's
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face and literally caved in her mouth. Her teeth were dislodged, she was
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bleeding profusely, and of course she got the pin. And afterward Mina Shirakawa
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cut an entire promo with her teeth falling out. Oh God, I mean,
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these women are tough. Mina Shirakawa is a goddess to me. I
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mean, just based on that alone, she is something to behold. I
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Meankana Tamankano, I mean, she's every bit as good as anything that aw
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has. I mean, this is one of the top women's wrestlers in the
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world has better back. I think she's ranked number five in the world in
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p WI twenty twenty three, top two fifty in women's When you look at
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the top five, Julie was ranked number two, Tam mcconno was ranked number
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five. I mean when you've got forty When you hold forty percent of the
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top five women's wrestlers of the world, you're saying something, you know,
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So this is I mean, if you have not watched Stardom before and you
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do have Honor Club, I highly recommend tuning in on Friday night from Philadelphia,
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Pennsylvania to watch this match because there's there's gonna be some there's some great
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matches on this card, and I mean, this is a good card.
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This, this Supercard of Honor is a good card and very very much worth
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watching. And speaking of worth watching, let's go right into our Dynamite preview,
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DALAXI, which match do you want to talk about first segment? Do
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you want to talk about first Well, keeping with the topic at hand,
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I guess thunder Rosa versus Mariah May. This is kind of a cool match
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in two ways because I think it's going to further the story. We're gonna
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get a much clearer picture of like what Tony Storm is going to be doing
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at Dynasty, and it's also just going to be a good match. Like
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thunder Rosa versus Mariah May. I'm leaning towards thunder Rosa most likely winning,
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But but who knows and and it's gonna be a really good showcase match for
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Mariah May, right, I agree, And but it also has a lot
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of potential for Shenanigans, let's say, because absolutely you know you've got you've
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got the whole Mariah May super fan of Tony and is she you know,
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with the reaction that Tony's and having you know, her character? For for
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me, Tony Storm now is more about her character than the title I don't
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like, yeah, more than even the wrestling. It's more about her.
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It's it's I can't even think of any way that this has been done in
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the past, either where it was the it's what she does in the ring
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really doesn't matter, because you know, it's it's the the whole thing that
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she's doing outside the ring. And and to me, that's just kind of
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weird because you know, you would you would think you would want your you
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would want your champion to be wrestling, and she puts on matches, and
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she puts on decent matches when she does. But how many times has she
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defended the title since she's had it? Like three or four? Maybe?
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Yeah, probably better? You know, it's kind of one of those it's
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kind of one of those things where it's like, Okay, Tony, you
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you've got the title and you've got this amazing character that you're using and you're
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doing, but where's it going, you know, I mean, if you're
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going to keep the title and what's the point because she you know, if
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it's a character and you're not doing much stuff in the ring, it's time
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to move on. So this might be the perfect opportunity for Tony too.
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I'm kind of one thunder Rosa to win, but I don't know that she's
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going to because it sets up that that ability to split those two apart and
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put Mariah on her own. And I was going to say about Thunder,
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it's just like I said last week, we were talking about it. To
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me, she's just she just didn't seem to have gotten back fully yet,
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you know what I mean, her match last week, she seemed a little
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hesitant. Lady Frost was amazing in that match, But I just get that
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like tentativeness for Thunder. And I understand. I mean, she had a
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back issue that kept her out for over a year, right, you know,
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So I still think that there's a few of the more experienced people that
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are coming back from injuries who are easing in instead of going, you know,
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right back to what they're they're they're used to. Unlike like when Omega
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was hurt, he came back out and went crazy like he was before.
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But I don't, I don't know. I just I would love to see
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thunder Rose to get that title shot, but I don't think it is time
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for that yet. Well, let me ask a question before anybody else breaks
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in. But because this was on my mind, Mariah May does she come
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out in her vintage Tony Storm harlequin costume or does she come out in her
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glamour costume? I think she's coming out as hard as as the in this
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match tomorrow. I think she's coming out as the Tony Storm. Okay,
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I think I think because that would that would like I said, it's going
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to depend on how they play it out, but I think she continues that
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until they have that match. Okay, Yeah, Will Did anybody else have
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any thoughts on on this? Yeah? I think for sure we're gonna see
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a few more Mariah May dressed as Tony Storm. I think that that's like
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just maybe peaking right now, and then we're gonna get the fall from grace
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and then feuding eventually maybe months down the line is where I see it leading.
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But yeah, I think we're still in like the buddy buddy phase right
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now. Yeah. So, you know, the way I look at it
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is, I personally think Mariame is gonna come out as glamour. I think
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she's gonna come out her glamor outfit because she's one hundred focused on winning this
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match, not being the lackey or the doll of Tony Storm. And if
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Mariah May comes out in her glamor outfit, Tony Storm is gonna be unhinged,
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and that's gonna be pure entertainment. I mean, when you look at
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this, the only time that Tony Storm pays any kind of positive attention to
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Mariah May is when Mariah May is emulating Tony Storm. Right, So,
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and let's keep in mind also, you know, I kind of I kind
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of agree with everybody that said that thought der Rossa was going to win this
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match. I would love it if Mariah May did. Because Maria May's product
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basically where she's had her most success was in stardom, which is what we
29:30
were talking about, and Tony Storm had many many great matches. It started.
29:37
A matter of fact, if you go and just look up Tony Storm
29:40
stardom, you will see the huge difference in the matches that Tony Storm had
29:45
stardom compared to what she's had in aw There's no there's no similarities. Her
29:52
matches and stardom were so much better. They just they just were. Yeah,
29:59
And I I feel like Tony Storm hasn't, like at least the last
30:03
couple of matches, hasn't gotten the time needed to put on a really good
30:07
match. Like if you look at the last match at the last pay per
30:11
view, it was like the shortest match on the card was that match,
30:15
And I felt just when it started to get going, it ended. Yeah,
30:22
And I think a lot of that has to do with that Tony.
30:26
You can't really say much against her for her ability, but I think some
30:32
of it has been that there has been a lack with the lack of movement
30:36
with their push with the women's division. It's been one of those things where
30:41
it's you know, you have a champion that's been in other places and have
30:45
been very very successful, but they're using her to build her Her character is
30:51
more important than the wrestling right now, because they don't really with Thunder being
30:55
out and with the other injury as they have in the women's division, there's
31:02
top those you know, top people haven't been there for her to have the
31:06
matches with. Now you've got Dean, when Deanna came in, and now
31:11
you've got Monet. There's people you can put in there. But this whole
31:17
the way she's doing her character and stuff, something's got to change. And
31:19
I think that's where the Mariah nything comes in. Right, So a wild
31:25
net has just appeared that what we're talking about is Mariah May versus Thunder Rosa.
31:30
We had just talked about stardom, and of course Mariah May had spent
31:34
some time to stardom. I had a question that I asked, this is
31:37
to put you on the spot. Do you think that Mariah May is going
31:41
to come out on this match wearing her Tony Storm Harley you know Harlequinn outfit.
31:48
You know you're emulating Tony Storm. Or do you think that she's going
31:51
to come out in her glamour outfit? How what do you see in this
31:53
match? I think we're gonna actually start to see Mariah May as herself.
32:02
So I think she'll come out in her glamour outfit moving away from Tony Storm
32:10
ever so slightly. But I think that she's gonna start to be more of
32:15
herself. I'm excited to see it. You and I are thinking alike.
32:21
Everybody else thought that she was gonna come out in the Harlequins. Oh,
32:27
I think it's time. I really do. I agree with you. Let's
32:30
move on to the next match, Alex, what do you want to talk
32:34
about next? Yeah, let's talk about Daddy Ass versus Jay White. Ass
32:43
Uh. I think Jay Wade's definitely gonna beat Daddy Ass here, and that
32:49
sounds weird, but yeah, watch your mouth. I'm yeah. I guess
33:00
we didn't get to ce j Waite for the past few weeks because we were
33:02
in Canada and he had visa issues. So now he's back. He's gonna
33:07
fight Daddy Ass. I think he's gonna win. But I think there's gonna
33:12
be a lot going on outside of this match. Curious of your guys thoughts.
33:20
Yeah, I'm not. I don't. I don't want to see this.
33:25
I just well, why not. I think there's a better match out
33:31
there for j White than Daddy Ass. What He's just you know, he's
33:37
been there done that. Yeah, but okay, let me ask you this.
33:45
I mean, j White is a heel. Daddy Ass is probably one
33:49
of the most beloved babyfaces right now. If Jay White does something horrible to
33:54
Daddy Ass, it's gonna have a bigger impact when you'd agree, yeah,
33:59
I agree at that, but I mean, nless it's a total awkward beat
34:02
down then, I don't you know, yah him Him's on me toe to
34:07
toe, you know, back and forth with a much older guy. I
34:12
don't know that's going to help him either, But I just would rather than
34:19
I don't know. Maybe I'm being negative on it. I don't know,
34:22
but it's not my sporte. I'd rather people like that age stay away.
34:27
I think it has to do a lot with the the It's going to further
34:31
the rift between the two, and it's going to lead to even possibly at
34:37
Dynasty where they either combine the titles or there's something a triple match there that
34:45
ends that feud, possibly leaves the Daddy assids retirement. But it's or you
34:52
know, there's a there's a whole lot of things they could do with it,
34:53
but I think that's the reason they're having it. Well, this matches
34:59
We're we're going to be in Massachusetts for Dynamite and then we're going right back
35:02
to Canada for a few more dates, right. I think that's what they're
35:08
doing pretty sure. So they got to do something big with Jay White because
35:14
he's not gonna be able to go to Canada. So they got to do
35:15
something over the top big here to get him the exposure he needs heading into
35:23
Dynasty. What could I possibly do? Well? God, I have a
35:30
question about kind of about that. I was wondering if this whole feud with
35:37
Daddy Ass and Jay White is somehow going to lead to a surprise return of
35:44
Juice Robinson. Very possible. Yeah, I was wondering if that's what they're
35:50
leading into. Since Jay can't go into Canada, I'm guessing that Juice Robinson
35:55
can and maybe he will avenge Jay White in Canada kind of or some something
36:01
like that. So they're not in Canada until May. So so not until
36:07
after Dynasty. Okay. Oh, I thought they said they were going in
36:12
again Vancouver or something like that. Yeah, they go Winnipeg, Edmonton,
36:16
Vancouver, May first, eighth, eleventh. Okay, I thought that was
36:21
coming up sooner. My bad, But yeah, I love. I love
36:24
what you said about Juice Robinson because you know, I need some Muppet Jesus
36:30
in my life. Oh oh god. So they've been selling the Juice Robinson
36:36
like cardboard cutouts, and I don't think they've been doing it the whole time,
36:40
but definitely, Like when I was at Dynamite, they were selling them
36:45
in Toronto, right yeah, And I saw it on Collision and in the
36:49
back there the other day they sell them. I think he's imminently returning.
36:53
It's kind of weird that they had the cardboard white that they took everywhere when
36:59
Jay wasn't around, but they haven't done that for Juice. That's kind of
37:01
odd to me. Yeah, maybe there's some but and they did intimate intimate
37:08
from the uh that vacation thing. The guy in the background was Juiced.
37:15
So yeah, I just I think he'll be back sooner than later and could
37:22
really throw a serious fork in the mix in this That could be huge,
37:32
Yeah, I could well. And they also need to figure out, I
37:37
mean, how's this match going to deal with the uh guns and you know,
37:44
him him facing their dad. Are they gonna get involved? Are they
37:49
gonna do something right as well? Well? Did we see. Uh,
37:55
the acclaims say that they're going to be staying in the back, and they
37:59
said, if you had any guts, you would stay in the back to
38:00
to the to the guns. That Anthony Jones's thing, that's a recipe for
38:08
disaster. That opens it up because he said the gun should come out.
38:12
Juice Robertson can come out because he's not the guns, right yeah, yeah,
38:15
okay, yeah, hmmm, could be interesting. That could be really
38:22
interesting. I mean, you can have Juice Robins come out. It doesn't
38:25
necessarily mean he has to be in the match at at Dynasty if he's not
38:30
quite ready to get back into the ring yet in that capacity. This would
38:34
just give him a chance to get visible again, right right, yeah,
38:38
and start up some nonsense distract people at ringside kind of thing, you know.
38:45
Yeah. Yeah, So what do we want to talk about next here?
38:52
What is Chris Jericho doing with Hooks out hook manager? M Yeah,
39:04
makes sense the manager, It looks like that direction. But but hook doesn't
39:09
trust him, Well he shouldn't, no Jericho, but I think he's gonna
39:20
keep him at a distance. But I think Jericho can help him a little
39:23
bit with his promos maybe and give him some back and forth. I don't
39:29
see another I don't know. I don't see another Jericho workers hook match up
39:32
less Jericho turns again. Uh. But but then again, it may be
39:37
a very good way for Jericho to slowly turn back heel, because that's what
39:44
Jericho does best. I don't like face Jericho. I think I think it's
39:51
kind of interesting where when it comes to Hook, how you hear him in
39:55
the somebody was saying that. I think it was I can't I remember which
40:00
one it was, but someone was talking about how he's a product of the
40:07
task being there and he's getting the nepotism and all that. But that's the
40:10
one good thing about Taz. I think with tast thing out of anything to
40:15
do with with Hook, it shows that that's not you know, that's not
40:20
what's going on. I don't know. It could be a real good thing
40:22
for Jay And I can't think of any reason why he would call him out
40:25
other than to be his manager. It doesn't make any sense. Oh,
40:30
he did bring it up, so I gotta say something here. It's totally
40:34
kind of off topic, but it's kind of it could be give me a
40:37
little bit of a giggle here when I'm looking at the official Dynamite graphic.
40:42
You got a picture It says Chris Jerco calls out Hook, and you got
40:45
a picture Chris Jericho baking his you know, lion growling face. They didn't
40:52
even put Hook in the graphic. They just put his Batman signal spotlight with
40:57
Hook. I don't know why that's got me all. I don't know why
41:04
that's got me like laughing my ass off, but it does. I just
41:07
it doesn't take much to entertain me at all. Somebody fall on their face,
41:13
you know, that's that? Oh God? But yeah, that's all
41:17
the explanation I have, Alex is that is that Jericho is gonna be like,
41:22
I'm not I want to be your manager, which they could have done
41:25
four weeks ago and been done with it, but no, they had that
41:29
matches at a backstage segment. Yeah. My quick prediction is they're going to
41:34
bring Cook's going to turn down Jericho's mentorship, and then Chris Jericho is going
41:40
to bring out Sammy Guvara and then they're going to try to take that tw
41:45
title out away from Hook. Oh. I don't know if that's interesting running
41:54
around, you know, for a title that doesn't even is an't even legal.
42:00
That the hell of a lot, it's even the day they talk about
42:07
it. I mean, it is the most worthless title in a w that
42:10
nobody really cares about that I know of. I'm sure there are people that
42:15
do care about it. It's like, yeah, yeah, at our fellow
42:22
podcaster Sleezy C who is not here, and I think it's the most prestigious
42:27
belt at all of a W. But then again, this moron thinks that
42:31
Chris Jered, probably Chris Jero thinks that Griff Garrison is the best wrestler in
42:36
a W so and we give him hell about it all the time. We
42:39
love this Sleezy. We miss Opie. He's in college right now, so
42:45
he's not with us tonight, but he will be with us soon and we're
42:49
gonna have to hear about the f W belt and Griff Garrison. I think
42:52
if you were a doctor and someone told you that you would you would try
42:57
to get that guy in a mental institution. I've been trying. I've been
43:00
trying, been trying for the last six months. Maybe maybe you were successful.
43:05
And he just uses college's excuse. He is absolutely certified insane. With
43:13
this group. Will Will a lot. You just don't know. If you
43:19
go back and listen to our previous podcast, he constantly talks about the ft
43:22
W title being the most prestigious title in all of a W, where everybody's
43:30
like, oh God, here we go. It's kind of weird. To
43:34
go back for a second, it's weird that they're having the Supercard of Honor
43:37
in Philadelphia this week. Well, and they're bringing the girls from Stardom,
43:45
the women from Stardom. I'm sorry, the women from Stardom, you know,
43:51
I'm and uh, it kind of is. It's just when we start
43:55
talking about the ft the ft W title, it kind of reminds me that
44:00
e c W was from Philadelphia, and with the women from Stardom being the
44:07
hard hit it kind of just I don't know why. It just kind of
44:09
clicked for me that that's weird but also very cool that they're kind of doing
44:15
that. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited about that match, I really
44:19
am. I just gutted about it. But anyway, let's move on,
44:22
Alex, your dealer's choice. What do you want to talk about next?
44:29
Let's talk about Powerhouse Hobbs versus will Ospray. So I guess it's the last,
44:34
the last of the inter Will Osprey versus Don Kallas fans. Yeah,
44:39
the Battle of Wills. That's battle wa wah wah h. Yeah, it's
44:49
gonna be a cool match. I think it'll be. Uh, you know,
44:53
Will Osprey can't do all the things that Takeushta and Kyle Fletcher can.
44:59
He's going to be taking like a top rope, poison ron or whatever you
45:04
mean. Will Hobbs, right, Will Hobbs, Yeah, yeah, but
45:07
yeah, it's gonna be a cool match. I'm excited for it for sure.
45:10
Just anytime we get to see will Osbury wrestle is awesome. I wonder
45:15
if they'll bring out the painting to have the painting. I'm hoping. I
45:25
am really hoping, so oh my gosh. I'm like, seriously though,
45:31
what this is the last match of the don Kallis Family Civil War. I
45:37
guess what are they doing here? Anybody? Yeah? I think the show
45:45
claim Osprey can do it on different opponents. Uh, Like I said,
45:51
he he basically fought his equal in my opinion, with potash Gar. He's
45:58
uh, you know, he thought his partner, who's the same type of
46:04
style, but Hobbs Hobbs, they really shouldn't. They really haven't showed him
46:07
against a big guy, but I think he's a good showcase for him to
46:12
go against Hobbes as well. And you know, like I said this,
46:16
like it's been hinting that before. I think this is going to be a
46:19
melting down because once he beats everybody from from the Cloud's family, you know,
46:24
he's better than everybody else, So why is he really need to stay
46:27
there? That's my thoughts exactly. And we like we've had all these matches
46:34
and we haven't had any drama at all in any of these matches so far.
46:39
That's what I'm saying. I mean, I don't know if anybody else
46:42
agreesily, but these matches, I mean, the match against cleud Fletcher was
46:45
great, the match against Takesta was all of this world fantastic for me.
46:50
But there's been nothing that came of it, you know what I mean.
46:53
There's there's got to be something that happens. Philosophy just going to be doing
46:59
this tour of Kallis family. I kind of agree with what MK was saying.
47:02
I think that you know, they never really gotten they never really said
47:07
that the United Empire broke up. They're still he's still using the hand sign,
47:13
and I think that Osprey is going to be like you know, and
47:17
and for honestly, for this match. I think this match is going to
47:22
not just be great for Ospray and showing him against the big guy, but
47:25
I think this might be Hobbes's most I want to say, talented competition that
47:35
he's faced in AW. So it's going to be a way for Hobbes to
47:38
show that he does belong in with the best of them. I think he's
47:44
kind of the overlooked guy in this group. But I think what this is
47:50
going to do is I think this is going to give Osprey that opportunity to
47:52
go, Okay, I've shown what I can do, y'all are beneath me.
47:57
I'm moving on. We're going to go back to what I want to
47:59
do and I don't really need callous, which then will lead Don Callous to
48:02
being Don callous. Well, well, you got to remember there, Hobbs
48:07
is the hot head, and I could see Hobbs getting upset and stuff.
48:10
I'm kind of pushing and shoving after the match, and maybe that'll start a
48:14
slow rift of they start taking side because he's not want to be pushed around,
48:20
and he likes to showing people up too, and he's a big,
48:22
bad guy. So I could see Hobbs losing his temper and start what wanting
48:29
to show off a little bit. Yeah, I totally get that. I
48:32
agree with you. That's going to be something to look out for. Anybody
48:37
else have anything to say about this match and we'll move on. Do you
48:45
have any predictions based on the painting? Wills is in the Judas position in
48:53
the painting, so yeah, so I haven't. I don't know. That
49:01
painting has been perplexing me for quite a while before I brought it up to
49:07
you all, so I don't know. But but like you pointed out where
49:14
Hobbes is in the painting, perhaps we're looking at things the wrong way.
49:19
And it's not Osprey who's going to break up, so to speak, but
49:25
it's Hobbes who's going to say, you know, I've had enough of being
49:30
overlooked and you know, undervalued, and I'm going to go my own way
49:37
and beat everybody up on my way out the door. If you follow lay
49:46
hands on the person on the painting that impresses me the most, absolutely stunningly
49:53
gorgeous to questa yes, it's true. Well, that's the sexiest woman I've
50:02
ever seen a painting like that. And if if he does that, I
50:07
would like to see him pull off kind of like the Mark Henry kind of
50:13
move where he just beats the living crap out at everybody. Yeah. Yeah,
50:17
that's pretty much what that was saying, you know, not just in
50:23
that, not just in the callis Family, but with everybody, come out
50:27
and do because because to me, I think that a lot of what they
50:32
were trying to do with Wardlow exactly was that. But putting Wardlow with the
50:40
United with the Undisputed Kingdom kind of well quashed that. And as Will Hobbs
50:50
to me, is a better It would be a better because if I compare
50:53
with Wardlow and Will Hobbs, by far, Will Hobbs is the better of
50:58
the two because he's more well rounded, He's he has he just he just
51:04
has that. There Wardlow, I don't know, he just doesn't. I
51:07
love Wardlow. I think he could be a great character. Are more athletic.
51:12
He might be more athletic, but when it comes to the I don't
51:15
know, it just seems weird to me with Wardlow being edge. Yes,
51:22
it definitely has an edge. He kind of reminds me of what Club Lang
51:28
was in Rocky three the first time. Seriously, I mean analogy. It
51:35
kind of puts me it would be like it would be like Wardlow would be
51:40
Rocky in the first fight than you. So he's got a couple of people
51:45
on our panel to think that powerhouse hobbs can't do what Wardlow did but couldn't
51:53
finish. Is that what we're saying? Yeah, I do, really do.
52:00
I think really you look at him, has that edge and a growl,
52:02
the roughness of it, and he has a look at someone who can
52:06
beat your ass. And you know, I used to watch Bte and he
52:10
would have the gimmick of going around and taking people's stuff and looking at you
52:15
funny and you know, uh, he he has that look and they let
52:22
us you know, he may not be as athletic as what Wardlow is,
52:25
but he has that dominant factor that you know when he comes into the ring
52:30
that's gonna be big. Whereas Wardlow comes in and doesn't put on the same
52:35
type performance. It's all about aura and gimmick with him, and he's and
52:39
he has that bad ass Mark Henry gimmick that really shows through all right,
52:49
Well, I want to move on and I want to talk. You know,
52:51
look, we're gonna have a segment. We got to talk about it
52:54
because it's part of Dynamite where Justin Roberts is going to be standing in the
52:58
ring looking like a waxy replicant and he's gonna use that stupid smile that I
53:02
don't trust. He's scarce to piss out of me when he smiles like that.
53:07
I don't know what it is about it. But he's gonna introduce Swear
53:09
Strickland and Samoa Joe to sign a piece of paper. How many times has
53:15
this been done? And has it ever been entertaining? Sometimes? Yes,
53:24
we're gonna see here's my spicy prediction. We're gonna see security get their asses
53:30
kicked yet again. Yeah. I think Prince Nanna is going through the table.
53:38
Maybe Hangman, Oh, who's that Hangman? I didn't even think of
53:46
that that. Maybe Hangman will come out and disrupt the whole thing and nobody
53:51
will sign anything because of of Hangman, and then they still have the match.
53:57
But nothing was really agreed to. So hm hmm. I've been looking
54:02
for a Hangman to pop up. Yeah, but he was taking some personal
54:07
time. So I'm not sure if that personal time was you know what I
54:12
mean, that was why he was gone, and he just kind of like
54:14
disappeared after it was over and really didn't say much, you know what I
54:20
mean. That would be interesting, definitely would be interesting. Mmm, we'll
54:28
see, you know. I don't want to see a three way between those
54:31
guys again. No, And you honestly could hear the and the it was
54:46
Rocky money, it was like coming out, what the hell? You could
54:55
hear the MGF music come on too, and he could come out and say
54:59
something. I'm I mean, he's he's the possibility. I mean, there's
55:04
so many different things that could happen in that or the other. Maybe no
55:10
signing, but it'll be saying thing someone tosses over the table. You know,
55:15
there's a fight ensued. It's kind of cliche at this point, but
55:20
uh, I want I want those two knows to nose. And because those
55:24
are two two guys. I like Joe, but something about Swerve has that
55:31
look of a villain to me. He looks like a comic book villain coming
55:37
into life, and he has that look, and I think those two knows
55:40
to nose and putting on a shot and then eventually enough swerve, you know.
55:45
But it's but there's got to be more. I don't know how many
55:46
more weeks of this towards till it has to be more of the story.
55:55
So that's what I'm hinging on, is what's left for them to do?
56:00
Well, one of the things that I think is left for them to do,
56:02
and this isn't a match, but one of the things on this match
56:07
card that is absent is Mercedes Monette, who I just mentioned, And are
56:12
we going to see her tomorrow night? Because she seems to be like the
56:15
face of Dynamite right now. Dynamite's like her show where she's the CEO,
56:22
because she's not made any kind of appearance whatsoever on Rampage or well except well,
56:25
she did make an appearance on Rampage on that three hour show but in
56:31
Toronto, but she's not made an appearance at all on Collision. Are we
56:37
going to see Mercedes Monet and in what capacity? I mean, in my
56:43
opinion, Mercedes needs to get into the ring, but she may not be
56:47
quite ready to get in the ring on a one on one basis, So
56:52
she's gonna need either to do a tag or a three way match that will
56:57
give her some time to recuperate. Would you put her in the match with
57:00
Julia Hart and Billow Nightingale? No, I think I think if she gets
57:07
involved at all, it will be in that match with Thunder Rosa and I
57:14
have a feeling that Tony might get involved and Monette might come out during that,
57:20
and that might set up her first match as a tag with Thunder,
57:23
which is a possibility. They could tag her and Monete Money and Thunder versus
57:31
the Champ and Mariah May That would be you know, something they could do.
57:36
Uh. So I think that you're probably right, though, Kelson about
57:42
her not being ready yet. Like I said before, it seems like a
57:45
lot of the I mean, I can understand where she where. She may
57:49
not be completely ready to go one on one right now, and I don't
57:53
know. It just depends on what they do with her and the plans there
57:58
are. It's going to depend on how ready he is. Well. I
58:04
will say this, this is I'm gonna make a slight prediction here, Okay.
58:08
Uh We've got the stardom women in you know, in in in the
58:15
area for for Friday night Wednesday night in Massachusetts, I kind of think maybe
58:27
somebody remember, you know, Mercedes Monday was n GPNJPW at Stardom, and
58:34
I kind of think this would be a good opportunity for them to have a
58:37
face to face with Stardom and maybe even have a match on Collision, because
58:46
look, with Collision being at eleven thirty pm on Saturday night, if they
58:52
made a match with say, I don't know, Mina Shirakawa, No Saya
59:02
Kamatani and Tamna Kano, that would be a great match, or Tamakano and
59:07
Asym might think would be a better match against Mercedes Monet and Willow Nightingale.
59:15
That's the possibility. And the reason I'm saying that is because you know,
59:22
look, we've got an opportunity here to build on story with a random match
59:28
toward forbidden door, you know, and it would be a you know,
59:34
Willow's worked in Stardom and n jp W. I think it would be a
59:39
pretty decent match. I'm just you know, spewing right now. So somebody
59:45
say no, I think that makes sense because they're filming Collision Wednesday night,
59:52
so Sash or Mercedes Monee could just be working. She can still work Wednesday
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night do a collision match. They're going against WrestleMania for collisions. So you
1:00:04
know, if Tony wants to go all out and try to do something that
1:00:07
can bring in some viewers, then I think that'd be a good, big
1:00:12
attraction, bringing in stardom women and also you know, building that relationship.
1:00:17
So yeah, I really like that idea. Yeah, I mean, look,
1:00:21
I mean when does when does WrestleMania stop and on just normally because I
1:00:25
don't know, on Saturday night, Yeah, probably like eleven or twelve.
1:00:30
I'm not okay. So you put Mercedes Monet in a match on a collision
1:00:37
and have her, you know, attag match. That's I mean, look,
1:00:42
you spend all this money on Mercedes Monet to have her sit there and
1:00:45
go that is good, you know, and thought it you know kind of
1:00:50
thing. I mean, come on, I mean yeah, I was like,
1:00:55
my god, it's like you thought Kevin Kelly was bad. You know,
1:01:01
I kind of agree with you. They I see them throwing her in
1:01:05
a match, even if it's a one on one match on collision because of
1:01:12
needing to make sure people tune in. And it doesn't matter if she wrestles
1:01:16
tiny tim you know, she's gonna get people to come watch that show because
1:01:21
people want to see her wrestle. Yeah. Yeah, that's just and you're
1:01:29
gonna you know, that's a whole other thing to try to think about what
1:01:31
they would do for Collision, because it is important that it's going to be
1:01:35
such a late night show because you're asking people to stay up from eleven thirty
1:01:39
eleventh East Coast, eleven thirty to one thirty. Yeah, and if people
1:01:45
have something for them to watch, you know, they're going to DVR and
1:01:49
watch it later. Yeah. I'm dreading the live chat because that time of
1:01:53
night, after people have a few drinks in them, that's gonna be rowdy
1:01:58
bunch be talking all there won't be much uh talk of a w and that
1:02:06
I don't think it'll be all yeah, well we won't be talking about WWE
1:02:12
and the aw van have live chat for Collision. Uh, but you know,
1:02:15
hey, if people want to get on there, you know, in
1:02:19
the chat early and talk to her in WrestleMania, I don't have a problem
1:02:22
with it, to be honest with you. Look, Uh, anybody else
1:02:27
have any thoughts on Mercedes Monday and what she might get involved with in on
1:02:31
Dynamite If anything. Well, I don't know. I mean that musld be
1:02:37
something because she's depaying all this money, but there'll be a backsay have prior
1:02:45
commitments or something, so you know what she does. Maybe they're taking the
1:02:49
break, run her for a week and letting her cool down because she's been
1:02:52
on there every week. And then like the other thing you could always say
1:02:55
is if Tony wants to pull one over on WWE, who better to have
1:03:00
in a match on Saturday night after wressell Madia than Monette Exactly. That's what
1:03:07
I was saying. Yeah, that would that would be I don't know.
1:03:09
I would love to see her in a match, but I don't know.
1:03:12
Maybe there is some earlier tremendous but like I said, it just seems like
1:03:15
there's there's It might just be me, but it seemed like lately anybody that's
1:03:20
coming back from an injury has been tendative to try to get in the ring
1:03:25
and go again. Except for Serena Deeves. She came out and just went
1:03:29
right at it, and that she was never seen from again. But anyway,
1:03:32
let's move on, Alex. We've got one more match to match left.
1:03:37
Yeah, the the Young Bucks versus the best Friends. I guess I
1:03:40
kind of saved this one for last because I think it's maybe the hardest to
1:03:45
predict out of the matches. Like on one side, we got the inevitable
1:03:53
Young Bucks versus FTR. But I don't think they're going to go that direction
1:03:57
for dynasty. Uh, which means that maybe the best Friends are going to
1:04:02
actually beat the Young Bucks here. I went left with them too. Uh.
1:04:10
They're my that's my wild card pick to win. You know, like
1:04:14
I've said before, lots of times, they have been here since day one.
1:04:17
They've earned it. A lot of people want Chuck team Chucky team involved.
1:04:23
I don't. I think Trent and Orange Cassidy are the better too.
1:04:29
You know, it gives Orange Cassidy time to still have a title. I
1:04:33
know Kelson doesn't like that, but you know, he's a guy who you
1:04:38
have to have in the ring and people want to see. But the Young
1:04:42
Bucks don't need it. I think it's a great way to keep on a
1:04:45
feud and after you know, uh morts and machine guns, you know,
1:04:51
last last time, I guess they used their friends sure, which I didn't
1:04:56
notice, and maybe that's a Maybe that's a setup where those two that's private
1:05:03
party versus mostly machine guns at dynasty. Yeah, if I had to predict,
1:05:11
i'd say, you know, whoever wins a dynasty, they'll they'll have
1:05:18
the modern City machine guns my much mouth, but yeah, MotorCity machine Guns
1:05:24
will come out after that, and then challenge kind of whoever comes out the
1:05:29
victors, if it's Young Bucks or Best Friends or FTR. I just don't
1:05:33
see a reason for Young Bucks to have another title. But well I don't
1:05:41
need it. I mean, they can do what they do without it.
1:05:45
Yeah, but there's a lot of history, like with TNA and the Young
1:05:47
Bucks and MotorCity machine Guns right, yes, Yeah, they're the ones who
1:05:55
kind of guided them through when they first came and were Generation ME, and
1:06:00
then they kind of gazzled out in DNA eventually and went on their separate ways.
1:06:04
But there always been the other tag team. If you mentioned the top
1:06:09
two, they always right there with them. So they have lots of history
1:06:14
within other organizations. Two I think, so could that lead to a two
1:06:20
new members of the elite. No, I think they're going to go against
1:06:26
them. Yeah, well, let me ask. I just want to put
1:06:30
every I want to put everybody on the spot real quick. So we've got
1:06:32
best Friends against the Young Bucks, and then we've got the Top Flight against
1:06:38
FTR. Who wins those two matches? I'm going to say, if you're
1:06:45
not going to have FTR and the Young Bucks, what three or four or
1:06:49
five or whatever it is at Dynasty, Neither one of them need to win.
1:06:54
Let's do two new teams, get something different and have h I think
1:07:00
it's a better match if it's best Friends versus top Flight. Okay, anybody
1:07:04
else want to make a prediction here? You are best Friends versus FDR.
1:07:15
You said go ahead that. Sorry, I'd like to see I'd like to
1:07:20
see top Flight and best Friends. Okay, what about you, Alex.
1:07:29
I'm gonna God it's hard, but yeah, I'm gonna predict Young Bucks versus
1:07:33
Top Flight in the finals and then Young Bucks winning. Yeah. I mean,
1:07:42
look, I appreciate people that said AFTERR. I mean maybe top Flight
1:07:46
against whoever at after your best Friends against whatever. But I said this last
1:07:53
week and I'll repeat it this week. Best Friends is not going to sell
1:07:55
pay per view, Top Flight isn't gonna sell pay review. This is about
1:07:59
solid pay per view. Do you only thing they'll sell the pay per views?
1:08:00
Young Bucks versus FDR period. That's it. Here's the question, though,
1:08:04
So let's say that Young Bucks or what the winner of this match.
1:08:11
We can say Young Bucks beats best Friends. You can say best Friends beats
1:08:15
Young Bucks. That leaves somebody without a match on Dynasty. So there's gotta
1:08:23
be something more because you're not gonna have Orange Cassidy. I mean, I
1:08:27
guess you could go without Trent because it's been done before, but you can't
1:08:31
have a pay per view without Orange Cassidy. Well, here's the thing.
1:08:35
Here's the thing. I understand what you're saying about. Those two teams don't
1:08:39
sell pay per view. The pay per view sold already. It doesn't matter
1:08:45
who the tag team titles are. That match doesn't have anything to sell in
1:08:49
the match. Because you're gonna have swear Stickman versus Joe that's gonna sell the
1:08:56
pay per view. You're gonna have You versus will Willow that's going to sell
1:09:04
the pay per view. You don't even have to have this as part of
1:09:08
the pay per view. That title match and that that that's the actual that's
1:09:14
the actual pay per view seller. There, let me rephrase this, okay,
1:09:20
compared to the pay per view. Why would you have a bathroom match
1:09:26
in the middle of it. Well, that's where I could be an amazing
1:09:30
match. It doesn't necessarily that match might be appreciate, they've done it before.
1:09:42
It doesn't necessarily have to be part of the main pay per view.
1:09:46
Let's let's face it. You got limited to who you have. You either
1:09:50
have FTR and Young Bucks, which everybody's seen a million times. You have
1:09:56
Young Bucks versus Top Flight. I don't know if they have any kind of
1:10:00
history, or you have best friends versus FTR or type like you're you're you're
1:10:04
kind of limited by the way they did the tournament in the first place,
1:10:09
you know what I mean, there's not a whole lot of You've got a
1:10:12
lot of tag teams that didn't get in that should have probably gotten in and
1:10:15
would have made it more exciting. But it depends on how they handle this
1:10:20
match tomorrow. We had talked about before that if you know, you could
1:10:27
have you could have interference tomorrow. They could cost the Young Bucks, which
1:10:33
then you could then use the Young Bucks in that match at the pay per
1:10:38
view, because you know they're going to have a match at the pay per
1:10:41
view regardless. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, here's here's what
1:10:45
you might happen. Whoever loses this match is gonna get called out by Hook
1:10:50
and Chris Jericho. There's your match right there, Ye Party versus Young Buck
1:11:00
three, And I think, yeah, Private Party could could interfere in that
1:11:06
match and set up that and then be something that would sell the pay per
1:11:11
view. Yeah, I'm just like, you know, it's kind of confusing
1:11:15
because we're getting close to the pay per view here and this is a very
1:11:19
confusing tag team tournament. Yes, and again I think he did it wrong.
1:11:28
I hate when they do these so small tournaments that you know what's going
1:11:32
to happen, and that I think that's the one problem that that Tony has
1:11:36
sometimes is he makes tournaments predictable and then doesn't throw a lever in the in
1:11:45
the works to cause something. That's why I think I personally think that if
1:11:49
he wants to really change things up and make it different, it's definitely the
1:11:56
pay per view violent finale should be Young but the Friends versus Top Flight that
1:12:00
would be something nobody expects that to happen. But the thing is that Tony
1:12:05
consistent. Yeah, Tony con is consistent. He will make you think that
1:12:11
he's going to do something different, but he very very very rarely does.
1:12:16
We're getting young bucks period. I can see that match. I can't see
1:12:26
top flight in a in that match, but I can see it. Yeah,
1:12:32
I can see three combinations, but I can't see best friends versus top
1:12:38
flight any other combination. I think they absolutely am Sorry, but they need
1:12:44
to keep a belt off of out of Orange Cassidy's back, because always keep
1:12:49
a belt in orangeiack, they get belt. Maybe they can put the f
1:12:56
t W belt on Orange. Yeah, just no, no, they need
1:13:09
to save that for Wembley. He may have Orange Cassidy f t W title.
1:13:16
Goodness Grison, I said it can referee it? Oh god, oh
1:13:27
man, I just I don't know. I don't go. There's a discussion
1:13:32
to have one of these times. We need to do one of these pay
1:13:35
per views with the wildest, weirdest matches you can think of. Yeah,
1:13:43
yeah, party competent. Never go for that. Never know, you never
1:13:50
know, you never know because Tony, you know, he could surprise people
1:13:54
a little bit. He might be getting feeling a little pressure from some of
1:13:57
the stuff that's being said. He might say what the hell, man,
1:13:59
let me suit, let me show you what I can really do. Yeah,
1:14:04
yeah, I mean, look at the young bucks. They got tired
1:14:06
of everybody talking so badly about them. They've gone off into the e VPS
1:14:13
full force and just fully embraced all the nonsense. So who knows they're using
1:14:20
all that money they're making on spray dan Oh yeah, man, and yeahs
1:14:33
bobless yeah, and the gum, all that gum. You know they're not
1:14:41
going to win tomorrow night if they come out with the diamonds, the diamond
1:14:45
grills, both wearing pink suits with bright pink shoes. I think that's obvious
1:14:54
that they're gonna win with that. They always lose, be honest. That
1:15:00
and a few comes off. They lose when the bell rings are not on
1:15:08
the uh, they're not winning, they always lose. There you go.
1:15:14
Wow, Wow, I'll tell you what. I'll be here all night anyway.
1:15:21
Let's wrap this up again, guys. I appreciate you coming. We'll
1:15:27
bet we'll be back tomorrow night for wow. Just this time in my card
1:15:33
on paper looks really really good. Oh other than that pen, the paper
1:15:38
thing that doesn't look really good, you know, And I'm interested to see
1:15:42
what Hook's Batman signal has to say to Chris Jericho. I don't know why.
1:15:51
This graphic just cracks me up. I don't know why they just okay,
1:15:57
all right, we don't have time to put Hook in here, so
1:15:59
we're just gonna put his coming out in orange. He's coming out in an
1:16:03
orange and brown or orange and black Batman suit. I don't know whether they
1:16:12
have that anything but on there, but I don't know either. I just
1:16:17
threw the day when the next Batman movie comes out, and Warner Brothers says
1:16:23
me, yeah, so we have this great promo involving Hooks, you know,
1:16:30
back signal entrance thing. We'll put the actual bat signal on there and
1:16:35
Batman will come out. I'm like, don't do that. And then you
1:16:39
have some skinny guy that weighs about one hundred and twenty pounds come out dressed
1:16:42
as Batman and everybody's supposed to buy any There you go. The RoboCop thing
1:16:48
was That's what I'm going for. Yeah, you know that was great.
1:16:51
That was a great bring bring break back the Shaka got nast there. We
1:17:01
want those soccer no, no, no, you got to bring back to
1:17:06
Gomedy Gooper. There is nothing better than the bedazzled Stormtrooper helmet. I am
1:17:12
sorry, but that just had me from the get go. I mean when
1:17:15
I saw that, you know, until it fell off, I was.
1:17:19
I was there for it. Yeah. Oh jeez, that was the That
1:17:25
was the worst moment in wrestling history. I was like, Okay, w
1:17:28
c w's dead next, all right, So anyway, time to end along.
1:17:34
Goodbye, goodbye everybody. No, this is Kelson for Ignition Alex.
1:17:42
Good night everybody. Night. Joe