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One Piece, 473-475 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering one piece
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  episodes four seventy three, four seventy four, and four seventy five. The
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  encircling walls activated, the white Beard Pirates backed into a corner, execution order
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  issued, break through the encircling walls, and moving into the final phase white
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  Beard's trump card for recovery. In these episodes, finally the bad guys ask
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  the question, why don't we just kill us immediately right now, without announcing
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  it, without letting anybody see it. We just get this show on the
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  road. How about that? And I was like, I really didn't think
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  you guys were gonna think of that at this point. Welcome to spoil Me,
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  Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much
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  to Florian for commissioning this episode. So yeah, you guys, this these
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  episodes are honestly, really, these were kind of fun. I was sort
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  of worried because I'm gonna be honest, even though I did really like these.
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  The episodes ended with Lufy running, running, running, saying hold on
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  Ace, I'll be there soon, and like that's how every set of episodes
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  has ended for about a month. So there is a part of me that's
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  sort of like, come on, can we can we please? Can we
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  get it moving? But I think things got moving in this trio of episodes
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  more than in the last few. There have been some progress made in terms
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  of like the information that the audience is working with, but not really the
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  action. And this had less information and more action. So reminder, we
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  have this like really interesting, weird setup for the marine headquarters, but it's
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  sort of a bay with like a pincer like formation to get inside. So
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  there's this like area that's a lot easier to defend, that's very very narrow,
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  and it's the spot where I think all of the like kumabots are lined
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  up and trying to take out the ships that are attempting to join them.
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  But when we start this episode four seventy three, we cap what had happened
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  with white Beard, and he liked you know, had just been accused of
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  selling out all of his allies and everything. And he tells this dude basically,
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  first of all, I can't believe you'd even believe that story. That's
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  ridiculous. Secondly, you're an idiot, but I still love you because you're
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  my son, and thirdly, let me destroy these ice walls real quick.
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  And everybody, of course, is sort of like the thing with betraying this
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  dude is that he sets such an example of forgiveness that it's like inspires so
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  much more loyalty than anything else. And I really want to talk about white
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  Beard just as a character a little bit, because you guys had asked a
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  while back, what do I expect from him? And there was a part
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  of me that really wanted to like him, because if Ace liked him,
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  I felt like we had seen that Ace seemed to have like pretty decent judgment
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  and seemed really loyal, And I was like, Okay, look, if
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  I'm meant to like Ace and trust his judgment, then white Beard has had
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  to prove that he's like worthy of this somehow. But I also was so
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  afraid that there was something else up, and not even that he was like
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  going to betray Ace, because that wouldn't why would why show up? You
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  know that it didn't really fall in line with what was happening, But I
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  sort of wondered if it was going to turn out is a kind of afraid
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  of him or feels like he owes him in a way, that's being taken
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  advantage of or exploited or something. And you know, seeing the way that
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  everything has been shown to us about Ace's relationship with white Beard and the camaraderie
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  of his crew, the way that they like look out for each other,
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  except notable exception Buggy, who wound up leaving. So he doesn't really count
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  for me because he left due to the fact that he didn't fit in.
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  He left because he wanted to do his own thing. One could say that
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  it's not about fitting in, but it is though, like the fact that
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  he didn't want to be part of a team led to him leaving and that
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  made him not fit in. So white Beard has been shown repeatedly to be
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  this leader that is so I don't even want to say charismatic because that implies
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  something very surface level and that's not actually what's happening here. I don't feel
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  like he has been shown to be somebody who put it's money, where as
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  mouthes, I think is the way I want to say this more. White
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  Beard is like the kind of manager that actually works the floor, and anybody
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  who has worked in retail or food service, you know what I'm talking about
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  when I say that there are two types of managers. There are the ones
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  that used to be on the floor years and years back. The world has
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  completely changed since they had that position, and they have not worked that kind
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  of job in so long that they have forgotten how it goes, and all
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  they wanted was to be free of that type of labor, either because it
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  was grueling, because they didn't like being subordinate to somebody, and now they
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  enjoy being on top because either they like bossing people or they just like an
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  easier job or whatever. And that is the type of boss that it's really
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  hard to work for because they expect things of you that are totally un reasonable,
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  and they would know they weren't reasonable if they had any recent experience with
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  the job, but instead they're just like from on high, giving you these
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  absurd expectations, and it can feel like they are part of a completely different
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  universe than the one that you're operating in. And then there are the managers
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  who are still doing the job, and those are superior, not just for
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  the people who work below them, but for the business they manage. It's
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  just better. These are people who are in the mix. They see how
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  difficult some of the situations are how maybe the workflow is set up in a
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  way that isn't optimal and they will fix that because they are in the mix
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  of that workflow every day and they can see, oh, that doesn't make
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  any sense, you know, like the kinds of changes that if you brought
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  it to the first type of manager, they would be like, I don't
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  understand why you can't just make this work. And I'm like, of course
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  you don't understand, because you haven't stood here for six hours trying to use
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  this bullshit workflow. And they're the people who when someone calls out, they
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  fill in. They don't leave you short staffed because somebody called out and that
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  just sucks for you. So that kind of everybody starts blaming the person that
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  called out instead of management, and maybe they'll call some people in and try
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  and get somebody else from ours, but they don't just immediately, like you
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  know what I'm saying. And that kind of manager is somebody that feels like
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  they have stake in the game. Their shit is on the line as well
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  every day along with you. They get beat down by the rush the way
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  that you do when things are out of stock. They have to be on
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  the front line taking shit from customers who are pissed about it. The way
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  that you do everything that you suffer as an employee, they also wind up
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  having to suffer. And they may have more power in the moment because of
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  their position, but it's still like they're on the front lines with you.
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  And white Beard is not only like that type, but also the fact that
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  he has like normally in someplace when you're a planning for a job and they're
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  like, we're like a family here, the translation on that is we are
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  toxic. We are the kind of family that you dread going to Thanksgiving because
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  you know it's gonna be a fucking scene. It's gonna be drama, but
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  you have to go because it's Thanksgiving and there are expectations. It's a bad
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  sign. But when he talks about all of them being his sons, he
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  isn't using that as a means of control. He is using that to demonstrate
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  the genuine perspective that he has regarding the responsibility he feels he owes them.
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  And that is what's really interesting to me is when people talk about like we're
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  like a family, usually what that translates to in terms of their expectation is
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  that you will feel obligated to us because you are family and you owe family.
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  But what he says is sort of the opposite, where it's like,
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  I owe you because I am your father and you're my kid, and there
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  is an expectation of behavior from children that you know sometimes they're going to step
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  out of line and do some shit, but as the parental figure, I
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  owe you a level of behavior, accountability, responsibility, and even when you
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  act up, I am going to come through on that. And it's really
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  I think the mark of a person in general how they approach the idea of
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  being in a position of authority, a parental position, because there are a
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  lot of people in real parental relationships where they see their children as owing them
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  for things, and in my opinion, if you have a child inflicting upon
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  that child, the concept that they somehow owe you is so deeply backward and
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  harmful that it flabbers my gust that people actually move through the world like that.
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  And those kinds of parents leave children feeling constantly like they have to validate
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  their reason for being in the world, like they make people feel always that
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  they have to prove they are worthy of being alive in a way that is
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  so fundamental it's really hard to explain. And I feel like there was an
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  amazing TikTok a little while ago where this girl was pretending to be the insurance
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  provider for like parental insurance, and basically the parents were calling up seeing what
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  kind of coverage they had because they had had a daughter who grew up and
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  then stopped calling or coming by for holidays, and they wanted to know like
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  what kind of coverage they had to get damages for how they were being treated
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  as parents. And there were all different levels of packages for this insurance plan,
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  and they were really upset because they said, well, we you know,
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  put a roof over her head and on her plane. She was like,
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  yes, yes, that is the basic package. And the whole point
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  behind this skit was that there are folks out there who seem to believe that
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  just doing the bare minimum of feeding, clothing, and housing their child means
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  that their child owes them some type of behavior. It's asinine. Your children
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  are children and they need a person to have them because they want to raise
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  a whole human being. And a lot of people do not go into parenthood
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  with that frame of mind. They want, oftentimes a little version of themselves
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  and they want somebody who behaves like a grown up right away, who will
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  contribute to the household right away, or you know, just have no independent
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  thought or personality or emotions. And it's just in like, I know I've
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  gotten off topic here, guys, but it's just something that I find really
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  important because when I see the way that some people behave towards their children,
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  the lack of grace that they give for kids having big emotional reactions to things,
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  dismissing them, calling them like dramatic or like just having a different perspective
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  that stays with you, you know, being told that you are overreacting and
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  dramatic. I mean maybe they are, and you know, like so what,
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  or just in general, belittling somebody's feelings as invalid or not respecting their
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  privacy. The number of people that go around reading their kids' diaries and stuff,
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  checking their internet history, stalking their profile, everything, Like, there
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  is a point where it's your responsibility to make sure your kid's safe, and
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  then there's a point where I think you could tell the difference between doing the
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  responsible thing and being nosy and wanting to control somebody's life. And a lot
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  of people just seem to have a really hard time drawing that distinction anyway.
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  All this to say, the approach that white Beard takes, it seems to
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  me, is the much more difficult, but ultimately more rewarding path of I
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  am going to consider myself responsible. There's almost a sense of like, if
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  you fucked up, then it's partially my fault. Not really, but like
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  it is a reflection on me a bit, you know what I mean.
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  And I think that those types of leaders are respected in a way that I
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  don't know there's another way to reach that kind of respect. It's just constantly
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  putting your money where your mouth is, showing that you can make a stirring
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  speech, but when the chips are down, you're actually gonna do what you
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  said. You're actually gonna put yourself on the line. And I really want
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  to embody this kind of attitude in my own life. And I think that
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  there's a series I'm covering for spoil Me called Red Rising, and the character,
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  the main character in that, I think, is trying to embody this
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  sort of ethos as well. And it can be hard because there are people
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  that, it really feels like, do not deserve the kind of grace that
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  he offers. But that's sort of the point, is like the the gig
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  is about how people may not seem to deserve it, and you will do
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  it anyway, because the point is having faith in them, not determining whether
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  they deserve like a certain kind of forgiveness, but more that you are demonstrating
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  to that person they get another chance to be better, and that you believe
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  that they can, that they're capable of it. And that doesn't mean that
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  you endlessly let somebody fuck around, because they eventually do have to find out.
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  But sometimes people just make mistakes, and it's really easy and quippy to
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  just like act like you're gonna cut somebody off the first time they fuck up.
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  It's easy to say that and it's easy to feel that way. But
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  offering people forgiveness sometimes is just so generous and kind, And you know,
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  I just really like him. I thought. That's really what I'm coming down
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  to, is I like white Beard, and I feel like the whole vibe
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  of him. It makes sense why his men are so devoted and why they
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  like are so ready to throw their lives away to try and free ace,
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  because they see this as like are their responsibility as well the fact that Ace
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  is in this position. If they can do anything, they will. So
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  this is when I just want to mention, like, you know, white
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  Beard got stabbed in the gut, and it doesn't seem like white Beard is
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  affected by this at all. He's got blood coming out of his mouth,
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  little blood still on his chest. There is you know, it's clear that
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  the injury was a real injury, but it doesn't seem like it has done
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  anything to diminish his performance in this. So I'm not sure if it's supposed
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  to be that the stab just didn't have the effect people are used to because
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  his body is different because he is stronger and it, you know, like,
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  or if it's supposed to be that he's just pushing through the pain of
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  it and it's gonna eventually like catch up to him and have the effect that
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  it would have had on a normal person a lot sooner. So at this
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  point, like they fire some cannonballs at him, he literally just sends them
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  flying right back. I know that he had the tremor tremor frou I'm not
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  totally sure how that really, like how he manifests that to throw the cannonballs
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  back. I'm assuming it's somehow like a vibration in the air that they hit,
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  but it's hard to tell because they really do not go into a lot
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  of detail. It's it's sort of interesting to me the way that this is
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  being approached because a lot of the characters that we have met who have,
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  you know, these devil fruit powers, we'll almost get like a little rundown
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  of everything they're capable of from the character themselves. You know, they'll roll
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  in and be like, haha, I ate the you know, explode explody
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  fruit, and that means that I can explode any part of my body,
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  and I can do this, and I can do that, So good luck
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  to you, buddy. And as we're like getting further along in things,
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  we're coming across people who we hear like what fruit they ate through the grape
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  vine. That's funny or just sort of you know, the person like it's
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  an off handed comment, but they don't really explain everything that they're capable of
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  or even give like a full explanation of what that fruit does for them,
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  and it leaves us to sort of have to fill in the blanks, pay
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  a lot of attention about how they're able to do things, and put two
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  and two together ourselves. But it also I think this is a good thing.
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  It also leaves the door open for things that we aren't prepared to see.
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  So if somebody attacks them in a certain way, instead of just being
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  like, oh, they'll do XYZ in order to counter that, because we've
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  seen that before, we'll see them counter it, and it will be like,
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  I'm pretty sure cannonballs aren't just gonna like hit white Beard. I don't
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  think that's happened, But I don't know how he's going to counter these.
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  I don't know, you know, what kind of of defensive magic he's got
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  in his pocket, And when we see it happen, I can't put my
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  finger on exactly what it is he did. And I'm assuming all of this
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  information is going to be sort of given to us later in more detail.
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  But I just think it's interesting that at this point the way that these characters
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  are being handled in the narrative is really really different. They're being dropped in
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  without explanations, I think, probably to be more intimidating and imposing in the
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  moment, so that because you know, it's like like actual stage magic,
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  once you explain it, it can be a little bit less impressive, so
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  maybe just sort of be like, oh, yeah, that man can counter
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  cannons. Oh my god, how I don't worry about it. He can
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  though, and I actually think that this is a good move. So this
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  is the point where they're trying to raise the walls because there are these like
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  automated walls that come up to above the edges of like the parapet what is
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  it called the sky folding that Ace is on, and this is supposed to
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  really like not only lock the pirates out of the headquarters here, but also
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  put them in a fish bowl where all of these like weapons can be pointed
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  at them and they can't get out quickly because there isn't an escape that's easy.
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  And I could not stop laughing because the point the issue is with these
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  guys that Aokige that's how you say his name, right, is the one
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  who did the fucking ice and he has caused this like layer that's so thick
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  that they can't raise the walls enough to like they're getting stuck. I love
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  the fact that it was somebody on their own side that did this. That
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  is so funny to me. And eventually they just like redirect all of the
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  power of the entire island into the mechanism and it does shove through the ice,
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  but it takes a while before they do that. And it seems like
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  none of the pirates were aware of these walls. I don't know if that's
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  true, or if like the heads of these groups the captains did know and
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  they just didn't tell their inferiors or what. But a lot of the pirates
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  seem truly startled when the walls go up and are just like, what the
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  fuck is happening? It's it's it was actually I thought animated, well,
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  like the feeling of being closed in and all of these like murder holes basically
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  in the wall that I'm like, oh boy, what's going to be coming
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  out of those? And just how trapped they really seemed. I felt,
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  you know, now there's something that they didn't consider though, and I thought
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  this was amazing. Is fucking ores too. His body is laying straight over
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  the like section of wall, directly in front of the scaffolding where Ace is,
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  so it's the first of all, the weight of him is keeping it
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  in place. But it seems even if they moved his body, he was
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  bleeding so heavily and he's so huge that when he's bleeding, it's serious.
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  It like drained into the openings of their gear system and is fucking it all
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  up. And I like really enjoyed how the camera just goes around to all
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  of these different pirates who are like, oh, Oors is even fighting the
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  good fight after death? You know, spoilers, It turns out that Oors
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  is still alive. He seems to die again. I don't know whether to
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  believe that either, but uh, he you know, he's making himself useful
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  from so it seems at the moment beyond the grave and good for you oars.
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  Meanwhile, fucking squard over here, you guys. We have such a
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  long segment with him sobbing, crying with regret over how he misjudged Pops.
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  He can't believe that he got fooled the way that he did. He feels
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  like such an idiot, and the fact that he was just like angry and
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  jealous and whatever because the whole thing with who Ace's father is and whatnot.
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  And eventually Marco just comes up to him and is like, hey, dude,
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  because he's like curled up on the ground crying, and he just says,
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  get your shit together. Basically, so yeah, he finally because there's
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  it's very self pitying, really, you know, So, Okay, I'm
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  gonna have to sort of move things along here. But the good news is
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  that it'll be pretty easy because a lot of what happens is it takes a
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  lot longer to show than it does to tell. So there's like an admiral
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  who is a giant, and he sees all of these pirates beginning to try
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  and like storm them, and he comes out to take care of them.
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  He's quite humongous, like it's the sword that he brings down on white Beard
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  is about the size of three of my house put together, end to end,
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  and he brings it slamming down and white Beard blocks the blow with a
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  sword that's like not even a sixteenth of the size, and he says,
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  you're blocking my view. Move and he like shoves back and he sends this
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  pirate or this sorry admiral flying backward, looking truly shocked. And then he
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  does something. I'm trying to understand what this is, but he reaches up
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  to the side with his fingers curled like he's digging them into something in the
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  air, and he pulls down really really strong and hard, and all of
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  a sudden it They think at first that it's just the island that's beginning to
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  tip, but the ocean is also tilting, and so everybody sort of gets
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  knocked off their feet and begins to slide sideways. I can't figure out what
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  this is and how this like is linked to the tremor tremor fruit. I
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  assume that it's like something to do with the way that he can make earthquakes,
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  you know, but an earthquake doesn't really do this. And I think
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  I'm supposed to believe and probably considering the way this place is built, it
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  is true and makes sense. But because the ocean is also tilting, or
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  so it seems, I wasn't willing to believe it was the actual ocean tilting
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  so much as that he created like a massive controlled wave. And I think
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  it's supposed to be that the island is like floating, because you know,
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  mostly if there's an island, it is not just like chilling in the water
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  with nothing underneath it is. It is a land mask coming up from the
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  ocean floor high enough that it pokes up through the water, and it's not
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  separate from the water, just floating as an independent ull, you know what
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  I'm saying, And I think maybe that's supposed to be what's going on here
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  with the marine headquarters. It is sort of like I asked this question before,
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  how these structures are built. Are they attached to existing islands or are
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  they built as sort of enormous ships. But I'm just sort of guessing here.
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  I don't really fully understand this, but yeah, they all like everybody
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  falls over, even Ace is falling over, and the head admiral is like,
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  uh, this is what I was afraid of. But he just says
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  that and then the camera goes away, and I was just like, okay,
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  but what is it? Mofy me while is watching everything and in the
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  background, like the ships are on and it's it's not like a consistent tilt.
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  It sort of looks like almost like what do they call that when a
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  trail jackknife so that you can go up a high hill without going straight up
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  practically vertically so that it's much more difficult, like in terms of your energy,
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  you have it go up in a way that takes longer but is less
• 31:30
  difficult to do. So anyway, yeah, a bunch of these ships are
• 31:37
  like vertical in the air and are coming like crashing down. Fucking do Flamingo
• 31:48
  is cracking up and just says that son of a bitch has got some style.
• 31:52
  And I couldn't tell because the ships like they move in such a way
• 31:56
  and the way the water is drawn, it can be hard to know what
• 32:00
  the distance is and where they are in relationship to the island itself. So
• 32:05
  I was like, is he trying to get the ships here faster? Is
• 32:09
  this meant to sort of like drag them toward the island? I don't know,
• 32:15
  But all of this results in like this massive crack forming and Lufy falls
• 32:22
  into it, and for a second it seems like he's going to not make
• 32:27
  it, like his arm extends but not far enough, and Jimbay is right
• 32:31
  there, catches him and pulls him up, and Lufy's like, the fuck
• 32:36
  is he doing? Does he want to kill his entire crew? And Jimby
• 32:39
  says, oh no, they were ready for this. They are used to
• 32:44
  him doing this kind of thing. So I can't like how this is such
• 32:51
  a huge showstopper of a move. I can't imagine like working for somebody who
• 32:57
  is capable of this. So everything calms down, goes back to normal,
• 33:02
  flattens out. The Marines are discombobulated. How Mepo says, I feel like
• 33:08
  I just survived the end of the world, which I really liked that line.
• 33:13
  I don't know why, but if the earth like begins to till at
• 33:16
  forty degrees under your feet, that's gonna feel real weird. And when they
• 33:22
  look up finally, the like a huge chunk of the building behind them is
• 33:30
  in ruins. I don't know if the part that's in ruins, if that's
• 33:35
  what he was aiming for. I don't know if that part is specifically important
• 33:39
  in some way. And it doesn't seem like like the Marines are more devastated
• 33:46
  by the show of power than what he did. It seems to me anyway.
• 33:54
  So Yeah, this giant comes back into play and he's like, look,
• 33:58
  you definitely are bad. I'll confess that, but I still have a
• 34:02
  job to do. I took an oath and I'm going to follow through on
• 34:05
  that. And he starts his fight again with white Beard, who leaps up
• 34:13
  and just punches him. And the way he punches him, it's like a
• 34:16
  glass breaking sort of animation, and you see this force field I guess it's
• 34:23
  the best way to say it that I think. They call it a shock
• 34:28
  wave that echoes out of the back of his body and hits all of the
• 34:35
  buildings, and it doesn't do as much damage as one would want. It
• 34:40
  still fucks things up, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't do Everybody
• 34:46
  had sort of hoped that this was going to like take out the scaffolding,
• 34:52
  and it doesn't. The scaffolding, it seems, is steel. The buildings
• 34:58
  that are destroyed are made of stone. So what I was thinking at first
• 35:01
  was, oh, okay, well metal is like more flexible, right than
• 35:07
  stone, So I'm thinking they just made it of a different material and it
• 35:09
  stood up. But we see then the admirals are all standing in front of
• 35:15
  this and they are the ones that repelled the shockwave that was sent at them.
• 35:22
  And I love Akigee is something that says something about how like, well,
• 35:25
  where are the damn walls? Get those up, and it's like a
• 35:29
  done deal. And the other dude, rightfully is like, you're the one
• 35:32
  to put the fucking ice there, Dude, what are you talking about?
• 35:37
  So anyway, eventually we get the walls up. It takes a little while,
• 35:44
  but that's what happens at the end of this episode, and the dudes
• 35:46
  like are using their weapons and bazuokahs and stuff against the wall. It does
• 35:52
  fuck All those walls don't look like a thing anything touched them. So this
• 36:01
  guy I can't remember his name, is this I think I called the guy
• 36:07
  who did the ice a Kainu, but maybe I have that. No,
• 36:10
  I called him Akigi. That's correct. Akayenu is the guy who does the
• 36:15
  lava, right, and the dude who is based on an Action star had
• 36:23
  said something about how like, akg, you could just melt that ice though,
• 36:27
  couldn't you? And I wonder why they didn't. He points it out
• 36:32
  in a way that feels like if is this just the author sort of nodding
• 36:38
  to the fact, like yeah, yeah, yeah, I know there's somebody
• 36:40
  that can control magma lava whatever. Don't get on my case about it.
• 36:47
  I get it, like he could have done something. He didn't though,
• 36:51
  so shut up about it. You know, they don't really give an explanation
• 36:53
  as to why he doesn't. But yeah, this is when he sends a
• 37:00
  bunch of these I don't know what to call them, like, it's it
• 37:06
  like commets I guess into the air. I actually really really liked how this
• 37:12
  was done. This was one of the few times where the long pause that
• 37:16
  this show is so known for felt actually tense and paid off in a way
• 37:23
  that was like genuinely kind of It made me go, oh, my god,
• 37:30
  what's happening? Because he shoots all of this lava into the air,
• 37:37
  and he shoots it so hard and so high that it disappears into the cloud
• 37:45
  cover. So for a little bit here, everybody standing looking upwards at the
• 37:51
  clouds, the sky is like blackening and there's nothing, and it's sort of
• 37:55
  like, what was the point of that? What are we doing? And
• 37:59
  then you start to hear this weird sound and I'm trying to like, I
• 38:05
  want to listen to it real quick. I have my headphones on. Okay,
• 38:10
  So the sound effects that they used here every now and then, the
• 38:19
  effects, like the fully effects in this show can be great. So one
• 38:23
  of my favorites remains when Marius steals somebody's shadow and it's like the sound of
• 38:28
  packing tape being like torn out, you know that sound. This what it
• 38:37
  reminds me of is like the sound of a long piece of wire or like,
• 38:46
  you know, those telescoping radio antennas and stuff. There's like a sort
• 38:52
  of swishing, metallic sound that's not really thunder, but it sounds alien enough
• 39:06
  that there it's like very sinister, and so you hear it very faintly,
• 39:12
  and as it builds up you start to be like, but what is that
• 39:15
  that? This dude is asking everybody, like, do you guys hear that?
• 39:22
  It almost I could see maybe the Foley guys had like a long,
• 39:27
  thin piece of metal that they shook, because it's got the sound of like
• 39:35
  if this were a larger, wider piece, it would sound a lot more
• 39:37
  like thunder it's but it's not. It's not deep enough. It's a lot
• 39:43
  more high pitched and quick. And it's just so unnerving in the dead silence
• 39:51
  to hear this coming from really far away and you're like, what does this
• 39:55
  mean? And this guy's looking upward and then he starts to scream and you
• 40:00
  look up and you see these fists made of lava punching through the cloud layer
• 40:07
  down toward them, and at first there's like five of them, and I
• 40:13
  was like, that's bad news. Look at those things. They're fists too.
• 40:16
  I just love that. And then all of a sudden, there's more
• 40:20
  of them, and I'm like, oh, that's a lot. And then
• 40:22
  there's more, and then there's more again, and then there's more again,
• 40:25
  and it looks to me like maybe forty all together heading down toward them at
• 40:32
  top speed, and this fucking like the approach here is basically we're going to
• 40:43
  melt all of this ice that everybody is standing on right now, and we
• 40:46
  are going to destroy the ships so that they can't get away. They have
• 40:51
  nowhere to run, and we are going to fucking destroy them all, and
• 40:57
  certainly it is really destructive, like this was a critical hit. I guess
• 41:06
  you could say. There's fucking white Beard just standing there having no reaction,
• 41:13
  and a part of me was like, I get it. You have to
• 41:15
  put this this front on, even though it feels like it's not actually upfront
• 41:22
  with him. It actually feels a little bit like he just is this fucking
• 41:27
  stoic. But a part of me, with everybody just getting blasted around him,
• 41:31
  I was just like, oh, dude, I will say, though
• 41:35
  his eyes are black the way that they do an anime when somebody's really mad,
• 41:39
  and I was sort of wondering, isn't there anything that he can do
• 41:43
  with like his tremor power to keep these from hitting. And but again,
• 41:47
  because I don't really know what his power does, I don't know how that
• 41:52
  would work in this case. He is able to redirect something totally solid like
• 41:59
  a cannonball, maybe that doesn't work with something that's sort of like flexible like
• 42:06
  lava. You know, I don't know. So that's the end of that
• 42:13
  episode, and then we go into the second one, and not a lot
• 42:16
  happens at the beginning of this one. It's sort of more of a like
• 42:20
  regrouping episode. So we're at Sabaodi the archipelago, and we're going from like
• 42:28
  captain to captain, and you know, these are all of like the big
• 42:32
  badasses reacting to the fact that the feed cut out, and so many of
• 42:38
  the people watching are just ordinary citizens, and they're talking like this is a
• 42:45
  malfunction, that something probably happened to one of the transponder snails, and one
• 42:51
  of the captains just chimes in with like, come on, guys, that's
• 42:53
  not what's going on. They cut the feed on purpose. They if the
• 42:59
  marine of anybody could keep this transmission going through thick and thin if it's turned
• 43:07
  off it's on purpose. And if it's on purpose, it's because they don't
• 43:12
  want you to see what they're doing. Get real, and we kind of
• 43:15
  go from one captain to another, and they're like, again very stoic expressions,
• 43:22
  except for Captain Bonnie. You guys, I'm just gonna say it again.
• 43:30
  If you don't just have one woman in a whole group, then my
• 43:38
  reaction to their behavior isn't going to feel so pointed in terms of this is
• 43:45
  the author being misogynist. But it is that way every time there's a massive
• 43:52
  group of all dudes, fifteen dudes and then a woman. So if you
• 43:57
  do that repeatedly and one of the women has fallen madly in love and she's
• 44:01
  only fighting because she's like romantically in love with louviy And now Bonnie is over
• 44:07
  here like sobbing, it just is. It's just a bad look, man,
• 44:15
  It just is, you know. Anyway, So all of them are
• 44:22
  together talking about how like there's no way in hell white Beard sold out his
• 44:28
  allies. I am not buying it. Like there's a reason that everybody respects
• 44:32
  him and we are going to go help. And so they're like getting ready
• 44:38
  to board their ships and the dude who does the like card like tarot stuff.
• 44:45
  He is asking what's going to be happening at Marine Ford and he pulls
• 44:52
  the death card. So it's grim, but it seems like they're determined to
• 44:59
  throw in on. I don't know how long it takes for them to get
• 45:01
  here, Like, it's unclear to me a lot of the distance between stuff,
• 45:07
  whether or not that actually matters, you know, to the story in
• 45:12
  a real way versus like because I have difficulty with understanding, especially since Lufy
• 45:21
  had been on Sabaodi but then sent to BoA's Island. How distant a trip
• 45:30
  was that? How close is he? You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 45:36
  I've just sort of lost track of the physical location of a lot of
• 45:39
  things. So anyway, back at Marine Fort, all of these guys are
• 45:46
  like, you know, the ice is what everybody's been standing on, that
• 45:49
  has been their floor. And as this fucking magma is hitting the ice,
• 45:55
  it's not only melting it, but it starts to turn the water so hot
• 46:02
  that these guys are being practically boiled alive while they're floating in the water.
• 46:08
  And so they're all desperately trying to get out of the water, not like
• 46:12
  if it weren't for that, they could swim and they'd be fine, but
• 46:15
  now it's a whole different situation. And then, in combination with the fucking
• 46:21
  boiling water, all of the cannons that are poking out of the walls over
• 46:28
  here begin to fire, and the dudes turn around to try and get out
• 46:31
  of this like cold sac that they are in, and they come face to
• 46:37
  face with the kumabots, which begin firing on them. Like it's a really
• 46:40
  really bad scene. They are fish in a barrel, and at this point
• 46:45
  white Beard seems to sort of lose his temper and he lashes out with a
• 46:55
  I don't know, shockwave force field, I don't even know. Everybody clearly
• 47:00
  expects this to do something, but when the smoke clears, there's just a
• 47:05
  huge dent in the wall. It's there's no hole. It hasn't really done
• 47:09
  much of anything, and white Beard is really really mad about it. By
• 47:15
  the way. Meanwhile, the fucking ships are on fire. Everybody is trying
• 47:20
  to minimize the damage there, and all these ships are just going down,
• 47:24
  which means that these guys haven't got a way to escape, like even if
• 47:30
  they wanted to, which I don't think they do. They're at a point
• 47:32
  of we have got to see this through now because there's nowhere to go.
• 47:39
  So I'm trying to see exactly how this like, because Lufy is looking forward
• 47:45
  down the line of fire like he's heading towards Ace, still with the whole
• 47:52
  grouping of pirates who can still move behind him, and he is straight for
• 48:00
  the opening that Ores has made in the wall. And Ace is watching this
• 48:09
  whole thing as Lufi is coming at him, and he keeps like trying to
• 48:14
  be like enough, already stop it, and Lufy is like, you know,
• 48:17
  they're shooting at him. They're slowing him down. For sure. The
• 48:24
  look of the path that he's heading down, it almost looks like it's solid
• 48:29
  magma. I'm not entirely sure, because I kind of lost track of I
• 48:35
  thought Lufy was still on the ice, but apparently he's not anymore. He
• 48:38
  is on solid ground here, So what happened with the like lava hitting didn't
• 48:45
  sink him because again he can't swim, so the boiling would be a whole
• 48:50
  other issue. But yeah, so this is when Lufy is like, oh
• 48:54
  my god, finally I can see Ace, Like I've gotten close enough that
• 48:59
  I can see him, and he yells, I'm here, and Ace is
• 49:07
  just looking up like a christ. All the cannons are told to fire,
• 49:12
  and Loofy gets this like shocked expression on his face as they fire directly at
• 49:17
  him, and you just hear him yell and go flying backward. The entire
• 49:23
  screen just goes red except for Loofy and he goes like plummeting into the water
• 49:31
  behind him, And it's just it's sort of funny to me because like he
• 49:37
  is right in front, he isn't trying to be sneaky or anything. That's
• 49:39
  really not his style. So the fact that they fire at him, like
• 49:45
  of course they are, but he seems truly surprised by it, like he
• 49:47
  didn't expect them to just open up on him. Like I thought we had
• 49:52
  all agreed I was the main character, and you don't just shoot the main
• 49:54
  character. You just don't do that, like you shoot around me. Fine,
• 50:00
  but they didn't get that memo, I guess. So yeah, he
• 50:04
  goes into the water. Ace begins to lose his ever loving mind, and
• 50:10
  white Beard at this point is like, all right, well let's get this
• 50:15
  fucking going, you guys. It starts to become really chaotic. Here,
• 50:22
  Lufy is floating underwater as Sengoku is saying, all right, you know what,
• 50:28
  we're gonna move this execution up. We're just gonna do this shit now.
• 50:30
  I don't even need to wait anymore. Lufy's been taken out of the
• 50:35
  equation. He's still sinking, and then all of a sudden, this is
• 50:40
  when Ors says, I'm here Ace. And I was really hoping that it
• 50:47
  was just going to be like, oh, yeah, he is alive,
• 50:50
  and he stays alive. It can't be that easy, of course, So
• 50:59
  I'm sorry guys watching Loofy underwater like putting his hands over his mouth as if
• 51:04
  he could just stop himself from from drowning that way, And there's something about
• 51:07
  that that I find really really funny, just like maybe if I just covered
• 51:10
  my mouth. Somebody jumps into the water to save him, and I can't
• 51:15
  remember. I think it has to be gene Bae, right, But anyways,
• 51:19
  so Ors stands up. He says, get away from Ace, I'm
• 51:22
  gonna save you, and he begins coming toward him. Yet again, this
• 51:27
  is a creature with a one track mind. I have to admire him.
• 51:32
  And Or says I won't die until you're safe. I really like that line.
• 51:40
  It's not even like I'll protect you with my life or I'm gonna die
• 51:45
  making sure you're safe. It's like, I won't die till you're safe.
• 51:50
  It's such a like, well, the dying part that's a given, that's
• 51:52
  inevitable. I'm gonna try and hold it off though, you know, like
• 51:57
  I don't know. That felt so funny and practical in a way. And
• 52:02
  everybody around him can see that he's just putting himself on the line and he's
• 52:08
  gonna die. Meanwhile, Squord is back there and his men are like,
• 52:15
  here's your fucking sword. You're gonna get back in the fight, right,
• 52:19
  And he says all right, yeah, let's do this, and he takes
• 52:22
  the sword from them and says I'm ready. Yeah. It was Jimbei who
• 52:28
  seems sloopy and says, all right, no more going in the water.
• 52:30
  All right, enough enough with the falling and the sea shit. So the
• 52:37
  Marines prepare to open fire on oars. They it's like like he's in a
• 52:46
  really dangerous glass of champagne. The amount of ammunition hitting him lights him up
• 52:54
  like a sparkler, and he sort of keels over in place. He's like
• 53:00
  sitting up, you know, it's such a weird move. Meanwhile, Lufy
• 53:07
  is like, we've got to do something, and jim Bay says, yeah,
• 53:12
  but we need a strategy. We can't just go running like you know,
• 53:15
  this clearly isn't going to work. And Lufy says to Jim Bay,
• 53:20
  I need a favor from you, which, like I was really interested in
• 53:27
  because Lufy just doesn't tend to bother with plans, you know what I mean.
• 53:31
  He just goes in and it's just headfirst and we'll figure it out later.
• 53:42
  At this point, what is the name of Kisaru? He's like,
• 53:46
  all right, I've had enough of this Oars guy. Everybody unloaded on him
• 53:51
  and he's still breathing. So you know what, I'm gonna do a headshot.
• 53:54
  It's gonna be effective and take care of this and I won't have to
• 53:58
  think about this guy anyway. And one of the pirates is trying to yell
• 54:04
  for Oars to run, and I was like, Sir, I don't know
• 54:07
  if you've noticed, but this dude is not in any state to get up
• 54:10
  and run. So Kizaru uses his power just as Jimbei from underneath does ocean
• 54:20
  current shoulder throw and you see this like force rippling through the water and it
• 54:28
  sort of sends water up into the air around oars in like like a hovering,
• 54:35
  like the way that sort of mercury holds together, you know, and
• 54:39
  gets sort of it's like that, but in mid air this water and it
• 54:45
  punches downward in front of the admirals. And uh, I couldn't tell because
• 54:52
  like what I had thought was going to happen, was he's going to use
• 54:57
  this power to pull oars out of the way the shot or you know,
• 55:00
  something to save ors specifically. And it does save oars, but that's not
• 55:07
  the point of it. Loofy is brought to directly in front of the admirals
• 55:13
  because of the water. He uses that to carry him, and Loofy is
• 55:19
  holding on to what looks like the broken off mast of a ship. I
• 55:22
  don't know if that was to sort of keep him afloat so that he didn't
• 55:25
  drown in the water, or if it's the he's going to use the mast
• 55:30
  as a weapon. But guys, he looks up at these admirals with this
• 55:37
  crazed expression that I don't feel like we've ever seen on Loofy before. It
• 55:40
  is positively manic. There is something about him that looks feral, and all
• 55:49
  of the admirals are sort of like, wow, he did it. You
• 55:53
  know what, I'm not even mad. That's pretty badass. You found a
• 55:59
  way up. And I think it's Kiseru, who's just like, man,
• 56:04
  youth, you got so much fire in you. I don't know why,
• 56:09
  but it just tickled me a little bit. They're all just like, well,
• 56:13
  well, well so Loofy. We get like a POV shot of him
• 56:19
  looking up at all of them and then looking past them up at Ace,
• 56:24
  who has this expression on his face of just like, what are you doing,
• 56:29
  my dude? Seriously, Loofy does a summersault and chucks the mast at
• 56:37
  these admirals while he screams back off, And I was like, I don't
• 56:44
  feel like a mask is really going to do the job, buddy. They're
• 56:45
  pretty badass. I don't know, man, they it seems like they will
• 56:51
  be equal to handling a wooden mast that you've thrown in their direction. And
• 56:58
  he sails into the air as uh Akigi is turning the mass like because it's
• 57:06
  soaked in water into ice and Loofy does gum gum gatling and kicks the mask
• 57:14
  into a bunch of pieces that sends all of these like huge chunks of ice
• 57:19
  down at the admirals, who remain unmoved. They're watching this happen, and
• 57:23
  they do really seem sort of like, kid, what are you doing.
• 57:28
  There's a sense of just all right, let's get this, let's get this
• 57:31
  going. You know. Evidently what he was attempting to do was just distract
• 57:38
  them, create so much like hectic, you know, confusion around them.
• 57:45
  And so he turns on second gear and he's like flying up towards ace and
• 57:52
  is close. But uh, oh my god, I forgot his name.
• 57:59
  I'm so sorry. I should have pulled up the spreadsheet that Florine gave me.
• 58:02
  But Action Star Guy manages to intercept Loofy in mid air and sends him
• 58:09
  flying into some buildings, and it's just again like Louvie just keeps seeming truly
• 58:16
  surprised at the fact that anybody is trying to stop him. It's just sort
• 58:22
  of a theme with him is just like, what are you doing? I
• 58:24
  have a plan? Can't you just let me? At this point, the
• 58:28
  Marines are like fuck this, we're killing Ace. We got to bring all
• 58:31
  of this to a stop. They had been trying to save face and carry
• 58:36
  it through in this like very highly ritualized manner to make a point. They're
• 58:40
  just gonna put that to the side. It's too chaotic now. So these
• 58:45
  dudes beside Ace are bringing their blades down because it's gonna be like they both
• 58:49
  strike at the same time, I guess, And I think it was gonna
• 58:53
  be that they like cut his head off, because I know with gold Roger
• 58:57
  they just stabbed him, but I think it's not the same method of execution
• 59:04
  here. And all of a sudden, the guys holding the blades go flying
• 59:09
  and there are these two huge cuts in the scaffolding itself, and everybody's like
• 59:16
  the fuck what was that? And it turns out that it was crocodile.
• 59:22
  I was not expecting that at all, And Sengoku is like, what the
• 59:27
  fuck? I thought, since you had a grudge against white Beard that you
• 59:31
  would like help us out. What the hell are you doing? Lufy himself
• 59:37
  is just kind of like, yeah, this, I don't get it.
• 59:38
  What the fuck is happening here? I love Marco, He's got these unbelievable,
• 59:45
  like wings of Blue, something that are like on fire, very impressive,
• 59:52
  and he lands and says, what's going on? I thought i'd have
• 59:53
  a chance to show off I really appreciated character who can admit that he just
• 59:59
  wanted a flex a little bit, you know. So everybody's just sort of
• 1:00:04
  wondering, like what the hell happened to make Crocodile change his mind? And
• 1:00:08
  basically what he says is I could deal with Whitebeard later. I don't like
• 1:00:13
  to see you guys win. That's really what it is. Y'all suck and
• 1:00:19
  the Marines are bullshit. Your whole operation is shady as hell, and I
• 1:00:25
  just don't like you getting to win. He gets his head cut off,
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  but it doesn't really matter because it's sand so whatever. By do Flamingo,
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  who comes strutting up the way that he does, and he's like, I
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  really kind of take this personally. I thought that we were going to be
• 1:00:45
  a team, and now you're just gonna like help out white Beard? What
• 1:00:49
  the fact? What the fuck? Uh loofy. Meanwhile, throughout all of
• 1:00:54
  this is just like, okay, you know what, this has nothing to
• 1:00:59
  do with me. They see he's saved Ace cool, they're all distracted.
• 1:01:04
  Why don't I take care of some things now? And he begins to fight
• 1:01:09
  his way through the marines again. It is just a series of like shots
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  of these marines going flying in every direction like he has just tossed popcorn into
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  the air basically. And there's another I don't know if he's an admirable,
• 1:01:25
  but he has a long ponytail, and he says that you're a little tantrum
• 1:01:32
  ends right now, is what he calls it. There's nothing so dismissive as
• 1:01:37
  calling something a tantrum, like even if that is what it is, you
• 1:01:40
  know. But he uses iron body and he thinks that's gonna stop whatever Lufy's
• 1:01:49
  doing. But apparently Lufy used like the bullet technique, and this dude didn't
• 1:01:52
  know that Lufi had that capability, and he just takes him out. So
• 1:02:00
  let's see. Here's Akayinu like noticing fucking Aokige comes in with his ice,
• 1:02:06
  knocks Loofy down with that and gets him like in the arm. I think,
• 1:02:09
  yeah, and uh is standing over him, and I just you,
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  guys, I just kept thinking like, not you Aokige, Like I know
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  you're but I just I kind of liked him, you know. He says,
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  I still owe your grandfather a favor, straw Hat, but you've left
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  me no choice. You chose to risk your life. You gotta face the
• 1:02:32
  music. And I was kind of like you ohe a favor, but you're
• 1:02:37
  doing this. I don't know, man, I don't know that that adds
• 1:02:38
  up. Boa here's this and says, fuck you. I'm not gonna let
• 1:02:45
  you hurt my darling starts to head over, but Marco beats her there and
• 1:02:51
  just shoves AOKG like through like it just you know, half a mile away
• 1:02:57
  basically, and he looked very uninterested as he does it, just impassive expression,
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  you know. Luphy looks up at him and says, thanks, buddy,
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  he saved me. And he gives him this really like in a smile
• 1:03:14
  of like, I really think you're kind of adorable kid, and he just
• 1:03:17
  says, no problem, pal. We briefly go over to mister three,
• 1:03:22
  who's inside, and he keeps thinking that he's been found out, but it
• 1:03:25
  turns out that they have no idea that he's in there, so they're looking
• 1:03:30
  for other people, and he had thought they were looking for him, but
• 1:03:31
  it seems like they are not aware that he is in the building. Oh
• 1:03:36
  my god, I'm overtime. I didn't even notice. So let me just
• 1:03:39
  jump ahead here to uh the very end, because like the there is another
• 1:03:47
  ship that it turns out, has been what's the word coded and just comes
• 1:03:55
  up inside the bay they've been hiding it this whole time. And it's a
• 1:04:01
  really big ship too. It's like the size of oars almost, you know,
• 1:04:08
  oars. The ships around him looked like toys, but this one's like
• 1:04:15
  stands higher than him, which means that this thing is really, really huge.
• 1:04:20
  And this is when Oors starts to come forward again and be like,
• 1:04:24
  we can save Ace. He's on the platform and again he gets hit with
• 1:04:28
  a ton of like I don't know if it's the cannons or bazukas or what,
• 1:04:33
  but he falls, and as he does, he says to his friends,
• 1:04:38
  save Ace for me, guys, don't let them kill him. And
• 1:04:43
  I don't know why, but that like the do it for me, don't
• 1:04:48
  let them got to me. He literally picks the ship up out of the
• 1:04:54
  harbor and carries it in like it's serious. And at this point white Beard
• 1:05:04
  has come a lot closer. He is almost at the base of the scaffolding
• 1:05:09
  at this point, so I don't even remember is Luvi at the base as
• 1:05:14
  well as he coming forward. I'm trying to remember the positioning of everybody by
• 1:05:17
  the way this episode ends. Oh no, he's not at the base of
• 1:05:20
  the scaffolding. He's on the deck of the ship. But the way the
• 1:05:23
  perspective wasn't made him look like he was at the scaffolding. And you know,
• 1:05:30
  there's just a moment where he flies forward and a Kahinu is sort of
• 1:05:36
  like, wait, what is he doing? And he lands amongst all of
• 1:05:43
  the marines, sending a shockwave out and knocking a lot of them over,
• 1:05:49
  and they all begin to panic because this is him officially like entering the plaza
• 1:05:54
  area, and white Beard says, my sons, please stay back, which
• 1:06:02
  I feel like, you really want to listen to this man when he says
• 1:06:05
  that, and he summons this ball of white light to his blade, swings
• 1:06:12
  it and it seems takes down hundreds of marines at the same time. They
• 1:06:20
  go flying through the air at a rate that I'm genuinely like, is that
• 1:06:24
  a whirlwind? It seems like I'm seeing the same guys pass more than once
• 1:06:29
  and all of the other heavy hitters. After he does this big hit drop
• 1:06:35
  down beside him and he's just like, all right, kids, this is
• 1:06:40
  it. This is the final stand. So we're gonna get ace. Let's
• 1:06:44
  get this done. And that is how the episode ends. All right,
• 1:06:48
  I gotta wrap. I'm over time, But thank you guys so much for
• 1:06:53
  listening. Oh Florian's here. Oh he missed it. Well it's okay,
• 1:06:57
  but you can go back and watch. But yeah, thank you guys again.
• 1:07:00
  I hope you're enjoying the coverage. Until next time to the Loo,
• 1:07:02
  motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled network podcast.