Latest / Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast / MIXED BAG: Angels lose two of three to Rays in series of good, bad, ugly
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Well, Hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo territory.
- 0:12Speaker 2: I am Mike D.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Giovanna, former RelA Times Baseball writer and host of the show,
- 0:17Speaker 1: joined by our regular co host Mark Trumbo, the former
- 0:20Speaker 1: Angel slugger, and as we sit here taping on a
- 0:24Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon, very strange day in Tampa. The Angels end
- 0:28Speaker 1: up losing two out of three to the Rays. They
- 0:32Speaker 1: one two out of three in Detroit, so they go
- 0:34Speaker 1: three on the three and three on the trip, which
- 0:37Speaker 1: isn't great, isn't terrible, but a really strange game. On Sunday,
- 0:41Speaker 1: it was three to two raised in the seventh inning,
- 0:43Speaker 1: they have a runner on first, no outs, Chopper up
- 0:46Speaker 1: the middle to Zach Netto, looks like he touches a
- 0:50Speaker 1: second base bag, throws the first for a potential you know,
- 0:53Speaker 1: double play. Turns out he misses the second base bag,
- 0:58Speaker 1: throws high to first, So instead of having two outs
- 1:02Speaker 1: with none on, there's two on with no outs, And
- 1:07Speaker 1: from that point on, the Names did get the next
- 1:11Speaker 1: two outs and Pomeranz came in. He did strike out
- 1:16Speaker 1: Cedric Mullins, but Williamson hits an RBI single Number nine
- 1:21Speaker 1: hitter Walls walks to load the bases, and Yondi Diaz,
- 1:24Speaker 1: who was quite the angel killer this weekend, walks in
- 1:28Speaker 1: to force a run five to two, you know, from
- 1:31Speaker 1: a one run game to a three run game, and
- 1:36Speaker 1: that was it. As far as the raise. What did
- 1:38Speaker 1: you make of that play? Mark was you know, you
- 1:40Speaker 1: always hear make sure that first out and how does
- 1:44Speaker 1: that happen.
- 1:44Speaker 2: On a play like that?
- 1:47Speaker 3: Well, I think what happened was you have maybe arguably
- 1:51Speaker 3: the fastest base runner in the game that was at
- 1:55Speaker 3: the plate and he hit a ball that normally is
- 1:59Speaker 3: a tailor made double play. I mean, that's that's going
- 2:01Speaker 3: to be a straightforward, take it yourself six' three double.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Play in this, case To zach's, credit he did know
- 2:09Speaker 3: who was, running but his internal clock ticked up quite a,
- 2:14Speaker 3: bit AND i think it was he was somewhat in between.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Steps ideally he would have covered that EXTRA i don't
- 2:22Speaker 3: know how much daylight there. WAS i Know erica Mentioned
- 2:25Speaker 3: weston that she could see what she thought was some
- 2:28Speaker 3: daylight from the side on the third base. View the
- 2:31Speaker 3: replay camera, reviews at least ON abtv made it look,
- 2:35Speaker 3: like you, know most fans at home were probably pretty
- 2:37Speaker 3: upset thought they blew the. CALL i thought that there
- 2:40Speaker 3: probably was some daylight by the reactions of the players
- 2:43Speaker 3: on the, field and unfortunately that out wasn't recorded and
- 2:47Speaker 3: the throw was high to first, base so double. Whammy
- 2:50Speaker 3: it was one of those plays that there was not
- 2:52Speaker 3: so much a mental. MISTAKE i, think, well maybe a
- 2:56Speaker 3: tad but that guy just flies and he puts the
- 2:59Speaker 3: ball In that's the. Thing he puts the ball in,
- 3:02Speaker 3: play and even a nothing grounder like that can turn
- 3:05Speaker 3: into some damage and put a lot of pressure on
- 3:07Speaker 3: the other.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Team, yeah we're, talking of course About Chandler, simpson AND
- 3:12Speaker 1: i think he actually hurt himself trying to leg out
- 3:15Speaker 1: that ball. Too speaking Of Zach, nettos he is now
- 3:21Speaker 1: this was not updated with today's, game but he is
- 3:25Speaker 1: now tied With Willia damas for the most errors among
- 3:28Speaker 1: major league shortstops with ten and we're talking about a
- 3:32Speaker 1: guy who made eleven errs in all of twenty twenty.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Five he also, has according To, fangrass a minus six
- 3:42Speaker 1: outs above, average that's fourth worst among major league, shortstops
- 3:47Speaker 1: and he has one minus one defensive run, saved which
- 3:51Speaker 1: is actually a middle of the, pack.
- 3:53Speaker 2: So not too.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Bad but last Year Zach netto had thirteen defensive run,
- 3:59Speaker 1: saved second most among big league. Shortstops you're noticing anything
- 4:04Speaker 1: different about him defensively this? Year, mark and we talked
- 4:08Speaker 1: about the metal the physical also had some trouble with
- 4:11Speaker 1: the roof In Tampa. BAY a couple of pop ups
- 4:13Speaker 1: dropped over the weekend between him And. Parazza some very
- 4:16Speaker 1: strange things going on out. There and we've talked about
- 4:19Speaker 1: his occasional lapses in. Concentration he appears to have all
- 4:23Speaker 1: the physical gifts to play a pretty mean. Shortstop is
- 4:26Speaker 1: there anything you're seeing any sort of common thread with
- 4:30Speaker 1: some of these defensive shortcomings this?
- 4:31Speaker 3: YEAR i think that it's interesting because WHEN i look
- 4:36Speaker 3: at the defensive runs saved last, year for, EXAMPLE i,
- 4:39Speaker 3: mean they just pop.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Out.
- 4:40Speaker 3: NOW i think there's a couple of different places that
- 4:43Speaker 3: are evaluating those. Things but last, YEAR i, MEAN i
- 4:47Speaker 3: just continued to pile up into the. TEAMS i, believe
- 4:51Speaker 3: as you, said this, year it's not been as, good
- 4:55Speaker 3: but it doesn't necessarily look that much, worse at least to.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Me his arm strength seems as good as it's ever.
- 5:03Speaker 3: Been he made a rifle of a THROW i believe
- 5:06Speaker 3: to turn a double play recently and they clocked it
- 5:09Speaker 3: in the upper, eighties and he's in the top five short.
- 5:12Speaker 3: STEPS i believe in the game for arm, strength so
- 5:14Speaker 3: that part is really. Good the pop up it happened
- 5:18Speaker 3: again today With. PRAZ i Believe tampa is a tough.
- 5:21Speaker 3: Place the reality, is if you take your eye off
- 5:24Speaker 3: the ball when it goes up, there you might not
- 5:26Speaker 3: pick it up. Again so that very well could have.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Happened it seems like the majority of his errors are
- 5:33Speaker 3: not coming so much with the. Arm it seems like
- 5:36Speaker 3: they're coming with the. Glove balls kind of going under
- 5:40Speaker 3: the glove is What i've. SEEN i don't know if
- 5:43Speaker 3: it's a. Thing it's really hard for me to. Speculate
- 5:46Speaker 3: it didn't play, shortstop AND i don't really see anything
- 5:51Speaker 3: technically that looks.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Flawed it seems like what we're.
- 5:56Speaker 3: On washington said a couple of times that do we.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Don't we do know that his hitting this year has
- 6:03Speaker 3: been it's. Fluctuated he was in a slump and then
- 6:06Speaker 3: he said he got out of his. Slump AND i
- 6:10Speaker 3: think maybe at times the bat is tied too much
- 6:14Speaker 3: to the glove and the defense and he's not been
- 6:18Speaker 3: quite able to separate him to the degree that maybe
- 6:20Speaker 3: a more veteran player would be able. To BUT i
- 6:24Speaker 3: think with the arm strength being really, GOOD i expect
- 6:26Speaker 3: his defense to get a little bit, better maybe a
- 6:30Speaker 3: little more, focus maybe a little more consistent double play.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Partner.
- 6:33Speaker 3: There there's been a lot of shifting around him as
- 6:35Speaker 3: far as that, Goes so we'll see as it. Goes
- 6:39Speaker 3: BUT i do know that when he, hits he generally
- 6:41Speaker 3: plays better. Defense, YEAH i.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Would agree on one point he.
- 6:44Speaker 1: DOES a couple of his errors have come on balls
- 6:47Speaker 1: that seem like pretty routine, balls and he's choosing to
- 6:50Speaker 1: field them on the. Side AND i know when you're
- 6:52Speaker 1: in the big leagues and you play on these perfectly
- 6:55Speaker 1: manicured fields and you're counting on getting true hops all the,
- 6:58Speaker 1: Time but that's not a is the, case especially in
- 7:01Speaker 1: the extra inning or later innings when SOMETIMES i didn't.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Feel dirt gets chopped up a little.
- 7:05Speaker 1: Bit, so you, KNOW i think fundamentally he could square
- 7:09Speaker 1: up some of these balls and just feel them like
- 7:11Speaker 1: he normally, does so that that that's a big leap
- 7:14Speaker 1: of faith when you're charging balls and you don't really
- 7:17Speaker 1: have to charge and feeling them on the. Side Jack,
- 7:21Speaker 1: kahana it's another tough start. Today two and a third,
- 7:25Speaker 1: innings five, hits three are in, runs four, walks one.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Strikeout really put a huge burden on the.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Bullpen.
- 7:34Speaker 1: Uh not only, that we're seeing a trend THAT i
- 7:37Speaker 1: think we saw last. Year jack had a really good
- 7:40Speaker 1: couple of first couple of months last year and then
- 7:42Speaker 1: really tailed off as we got Into. June In, july
- 7:46Speaker 1: but As Jeff fletcher posted today ON x first seven
- 7:50Speaker 1: starts of the year three point zero five e R
- 7:53Speaker 1: a last five starts nine point two seven e R
- 7:59Speaker 1: a almost a ten e er, mark what is going
- 8:02Speaker 1: on with this?
- 8:03Speaker 3: Kid jack gave some comments Again Jeff, fletcher as, Usual he,
- 8:10Speaker 3: said he started off feeling, great lost his. Rhythm not
- 8:14Speaker 3: really sure what it is or WHY i lost, it
- 8:16Speaker 3: BUT i didn't make the ADJUSTMENT i needed. TO i
- 8:18Speaker 3: think he nailed, It, jack you didn't make the. Adjustment
- 8:22Speaker 3: and these, COMMENTS i, MEAN i think it's the second
- 8:26Speaker 3: or third time that it sounds like he. Doesn't and
- 8:29Speaker 3: he's a younger, guy so fair. Enough it sounds like
- 8:33Speaker 3: he's in need of somebody to really pull him to
- 8:37Speaker 3: the side or have a conversation or kind of game plan,
- 8:41Speaker 3: better because if you're lost in the big leagues and
- 8:43Speaker 3: you don't know quite what you're. Doing we highlighted in
- 8:45Speaker 3: a previous episode his pitch usage is kind of. BIZARRE
- 8:49Speaker 3: i indicated THAT i thought he was leaning on statistically
- 8:53Speaker 3: his worst offering Per Baseball. Savant so what does he.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Do he ups the usage today and upit. Significantly he
- 9:02Speaker 3: threw either, one two or.
- 9:05Speaker 4: Three it.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Was it was next to no. Sliders AND i so
- 9:09Speaker 3: listen to the advice or you, know the OPINION i
- 9:13Speaker 3: guess of an next, Teammate Richard, buyer who really knows.
- 9:16Speaker 4: Mechanics and pitch. Mechanics AND i, said, hey take a.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Look AS i didn't, Pitch i'd rather not speculate too.
- 9:21Speaker 3: Much he said, that you, Know, Jack jack is a big.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Guy gooby has pointed that out as. Well he, said
- 9:27Speaker 3: he's really getting his head is getting to the side
- 9:31Speaker 3: on his. Delivery strasbourg was the guy he kind of
- 9:34Speaker 3: pointed To. Jack you, know they're not identical by any,
- 9:36Speaker 3: means but if you look at the, Mechanics strasbourg had
- 9:39Speaker 3: a little bit more in common With jack than some other.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Pictures but he did some other things really. WELL i
- 9:46Speaker 3: Think jack's arm is a little bit late as. Well
- 9:50Speaker 3: just like hitters can be, late pitchers can be late
- 9:52Speaker 3: getting their arm kind of up in that ready. Position
- 9:56Speaker 3: and it seems like what he did today was his
- 9:58Speaker 3: fastball command was. Abysmal it was really bad for any,
- 10:04Speaker 3: pitcher but especially one trying to navigate a tough lineup
- 10:07Speaker 3: like The. RAYS i think he was about fifty percent
- 10:09Speaker 3: strikes with his. Fastball his changeup was more reliable for,
- 10:12Speaker 3: strikes but he wasn't able to go deep into the.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Game fortunately he was picked up by the bullpen With.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Ferris BUT i Think jack's got to get it together
- 10:23Speaker 3: a little bit more and lean into one or the.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Other either he's going to try and be more of
- 10:29Speaker 3: a power forcing, pitcher or he's going to lean on
- 10:31Speaker 3: the sinker this kind of do it. Both he mentioned
- 10:34Speaker 3: also he has more weapons this year than he did last.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Year i'm not sure if that really lines up with
- 10:39Speaker 3: What i've seen so. FAR i like him a. LOT
- 10:41Speaker 3: i think that there is a ton of. Potential it
- 10:43Speaker 3: just seems like he needs more of a guiding light
- 10:47Speaker 3: to get to where he wants to. Be and, again
- 10:50Speaker 3: it doesn't need to be the guy that's striking everyone
- 10:53Speaker 3: out and keeping up in that regard with the rest
- 10:55Speaker 3: of the. League some guys do it really. Well they
- 10:57Speaker 3: have elite swing and miss Stuff yamamotos. Skiings But jack
- 11:02Speaker 3: can be his own guy and make a lot of
- 11:03Speaker 3: money and be very. Successful but he's gonna have a
- 11:06Speaker 3: hard time if he doesn't quite know what he's trying to.
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- 12:54Speaker 1: And welcome back To Halo territory With mike.
- 12:56Speaker 2: D giovanna And Mark. Trumbull mark you Mentioned Mitch.
- 12:58Speaker 1: FERRISON i really thought the left hander did a great
- 13:01Speaker 1: job keeping The angels in the game today and giving
- 13:05Speaker 1: them a chance to come back through four. Innings what
- 13:10Speaker 1: one hit two under and. Runs you know he got
- 13:13Speaker 1: charge under and runs with that weird play with netto
- 13:15Speaker 1: on the.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Seventh would you.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Make a move in the rotation With jack k right?
- 13:19Speaker 1: Now would you maybe sub Out ferris for a start or?
- 13:22Speaker 1: Two maybe Send jack? Down are there any options in
- 13:25Speaker 1: TRIPLE a that seem attractive right? Now or would you
- 13:28Speaker 1: stick With jack for another couple of? STARTS i personally
- 13:32Speaker 1: would stick With jack for at least another. START i Think,
- 13:36Speaker 1: kurt in his postgame comment.
- 13:38Speaker 4: Said that more or less WHAT i.
- 13:42Speaker 3: WHAT i just said that they want to see some
- 13:45Speaker 3: improvements and have him keep working on some stuff because
- 13:49Speaker 3: the package is very attractive if this kind of trend keeps.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Up obviously it's, not BUT i just think that there's more.
- 13:58Speaker 3: Potential and you, know for A farris that was that
- 14:01Speaker 3: was another nice. OUTING i think Is era is hovering
- 14:04Speaker 3: right around to. THREE i had said a few shows
- 14:08Speaker 3: back when he had come, IN i thought or he
- 14:10Speaker 3: had either did he start a, game OR i had
- 14:12Speaker 3: said maybe he had earned the opportunity to start and
- 14:16Speaker 3: immediately was pitching in a mop up game next.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Time so you've just nailed. It BUT i like what he.
- 14:23Speaker 4: Does throws, strikes he keeps the team in the.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Game he's very valuable as a long reliever as. WELL
- 14:29Speaker 3: i think he's probably you, know his stuff looks too
- 14:31Speaker 3: good to me to be just a straight you, know
- 14:33Speaker 3: he's not a mop up, guy so he's an option
- 14:37Speaker 3: and you know that you need the depth and he
- 14:39Speaker 3: is exactly what you hope for when you know you're
- 14:42Speaker 3: acquiring guys and trying to build more depth for your,
- 14:45Speaker 3: team and this seems to be a good.
- 14:47Speaker 4: One.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Well saturday's, game as we, mentioned was a fourteen to
- 14:51Speaker 1: three route in favor of The, angels who had four home,
- 14:54Speaker 1: runs including a grand slam By Wade, meckler who now
- 14:58Speaker 1: has twice as many home Run Fernando Tatist Junior Mike
- 15:03Speaker 1: Trout Adele perrazza also went. Deep but, man The angels
- 15:06Speaker 1: got a skier in the seventh. Inning Zach netto steels.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Third then he scores on a wild pitch with a
- 15:13Speaker 1: pretty sizable left hander Named Ian seymour on the. Mound
- 15:17Speaker 1: ball took one of those weird hops off the backstop
- 15:20Speaker 1: right back to the. Catcher seymour's covering home and he
- 15:25Speaker 1: just dropped pretty much every ounce of his six foot
- 15:28Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pound body Into zach's lower, back
- 15:32Speaker 1: AND i don't know if it hit him in the,
- 15:34Speaker 1: neck but he definitely suffered some whiplash down for several,
- 15:38Speaker 1: minutes had to come out of the. Game zach luckily
- 15:42Speaker 1: was able to play On. SUNDAY i don't know WHEN
- 15:45Speaker 1: i saw that, play it's. Sure, LOOK i don't want
- 15:47Speaker 1: to say, DIRTY i. DON'T i hate to use that
- 15:50Speaker 1: word because it's heat in the. Moment it's a really
- 15:53Speaker 1: reaction bang bang. Play but it sure looked Like seymour
- 15:56Speaker 1: was leaning into netto because he was pissed off because
- 15:59Speaker 1: he threw a. While sure, what but it sure seemed
- 16:01Speaker 1: like he was leaning in the netto before he had that.
- 16:03Speaker 1: Ball what'd you, See? MARK i saw WHAT i.
- 16:08Speaker 3: SAW i also asked the opinions of multiple ex, players
- 16:11Speaker 3: SO i got this.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Right you.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Know the fan sentiment was immediately to say dirty, Play but,
- 16:19Speaker 3: Okay i'll just say the contrarian point of. VIEW i
- 16:22Speaker 3: don't think there was anything dirty about. IT i think
- 16:25Speaker 3: what happened was a very awkward play that was really
- 16:29Speaker 3: going to end in some sort of. Collision and now
- 16:34Speaker 3: that depends, on you, know how bad it is the
- 16:37Speaker 3: timing of the. Play nothing was in favor of anyone
- 16:40Speaker 3: really avoiding. It what happened THAT i think really. Influenced
- 16:44Speaker 3: it was the way netto, slid AND i watched it fifty,
- 16:48Speaker 3: times maybe BECAUSE i wanted to try and cover WHAT
- 16:52Speaker 3: i think people were, wondering and even today's, extit he
- 16:55Speaker 3: didn't think it was a dirty play. Whatever he slid very,
- 16:57Speaker 3: early and he slid very, light and part of that
- 17:04Speaker 3: maybe in his advantage to get his foot into home
- 17:07Speaker 3: plate quicker or as quickly as. Possible now the flip
- 17:11Speaker 3: side is if he goes in light and kind of was,
- 17:15Speaker 3: rolling his technique didn't really look that, great to be
- 17:18Speaker 3: honest with, you and we know that his feet first
- 17:20Speaker 3: sliding is something that he is trying to incorporate more.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Of BUT i was trying to think WHAT i would have,
- 17:27Speaker 3: done AND i don't have quite his. Speed but you
- 17:29Speaker 3: know there are similar, plays and if you can see
- 17:33Speaker 3: out of your peripheral that the picture is kind of
- 17:35Speaker 3: you know there's going to be something happening here pretty.
- 17:37Speaker 3: SOON i would do EVERYTHING i, could you, know without
- 17:41Speaker 3: trying to be dirty on my, end to get my
- 17:43Speaker 3: left arm in a position to. BUFFER i, Mean zack's
- 17:47Speaker 3: got all the speed coming in the, picture had very,
- 17:49Speaker 3: little you, know but he is a big, dude he's
- 17:52Speaker 3: got tree trunks for. Legs AND i don't think there
- 17:55Speaker 3: was any. INTENT i, mean if you look at the,
- 17:57Speaker 3: play he was trying to get if a perfect throw
- 17:59Speaker 3: in a perfect it's pretty. Close it was a little bit.
- 18:02Speaker 3: Late throw was not, bad but it wasn't quite you,
- 18:05Speaker 3: know one of. Those it would just have to be
- 18:06Speaker 3: right on top of the. Plate BUT i Think, zach you, know,
- 18:11Speaker 3: unfortunately is a smaller. Guy my advice and he's gonna
- 18:17Speaker 3: throw this straight into the trash would be if he
- 18:19Speaker 3: had that play, again you, go you want to you
- 18:21Speaker 3: want to slide through the play through home, plate probably
- 18:25Speaker 3: a little bit, later slide with a lot more, force
- 18:28Speaker 3: and who you, know that picture could be, flipped you,
- 18:31Speaker 3: know three sixty that. Way you know you're not trying
- 18:34Speaker 3: to hurt the, guy but you're not trying to get hurt,
- 18:36Speaker 3: Either so you got to go. IN i, mean it's
- 18:39Speaker 3: an aggressive sport at. Times you got to go in.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Hard and he went in a little light in my,
- 18:43Speaker 3: opinion he did. Score i'm glad he's, fine BUT i
- 18:46Speaker 3: don't think there was anything dirty from the pitcher's point of.
- 18:48Speaker 3: View plus he had his back turned to him, too
- 18:50Speaker 3: so it's kind of, yeah kind of. Hard you, know
- 18:53Speaker 3: it was just one of those things that. Happened, YEAH i,
- 18:56Speaker 3: SHOULD i should amend my earlier. COMMENT i don't think
- 18:58Speaker 3: there was any. Intent it's just when you watch the play,
- 19:02Speaker 3: initially you, know no, replay it did seem at a little.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Off let's talk About. Wade meckler is a small sample
- 19:12Speaker 1: size for, sure BUT i like his at. BATS i
- 19:15Speaker 1: don't know if he's it's just the, size his, mannerisms
- 19:19Speaker 1: the fact that his number starts with a, five but
- 19:22Speaker 1: he gives off a very Cold calhoun vibe to me
- 19:24Speaker 1: in the. BOX i like the way he puts the
- 19:27Speaker 1: bat on the. Ball he makes, good solid. Contact he
- 19:32Speaker 1: seems to have a pretty good. EYE i was gonna,
- 19:37Speaker 1: ask is this kid here to? Stay once? Again small sample,
- 19:40Speaker 1: size but he's made a nice little first impression. Here
- 19:43Speaker 1: what do you think of this?
- 19:44Speaker 2: GUY i Like.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Wade everyone here that watches this show probably knows. That
- 19:50Speaker 3: AND i liked what he brought to the table BEFORE
- 19:52Speaker 3: i do and really got to look at. HIM i,
- 19:56Speaker 3: said this guy gets on. Base this team could benefit
- 19:59Speaker 3: from guys to get On he gets on, base and
- 20:01Speaker 3: he does the power is we'll see about. That, now
- 20:05Speaker 3: he had some comments. TOO i believe he made him
- 20:07Speaker 3: yesterday that he's done a much better job of getting
- 20:11Speaker 3: some backspin in the air to the poll. Side you,
- 20:14Speaker 3: know we've talked about that particular topic a lot with
- 20:16Speaker 3: other hitters on this, team but this guy is a
- 20:20Speaker 3: different one because he's more in the camp Of Stephen,
- 20:22Speaker 3: kwan the Good Stephen. Kuan you, know he's not a big. Guy,
- 20:26Speaker 3: YEAH i think he's fit and, muscular but he's not
- 20:28Speaker 3: a tall.
- 20:28Speaker 4: GUY i should. SAY i like his defense a heck
- 20:31Speaker 4: of a.
- 20:31Speaker 3: Lot, NOW i don't know if it's an algorithm or
- 20:34Speaker 3: what with the substitutions late in the, game they seem
- 20:37Speaker 3: automatic in the seventh, inning you must come, in you
- 20:40Speaker 3: must come. Out you, know it's probably for. Right it
- 20:44Speaker 3: just looks very you, know there's not a lot of feels,
- 20:46Speaker 3: sometimes So i'm not trying to make a DIG i
- 20:48Speaker 3: JUST i guess it's exactly what the plan. Is but
- 20:52Speaker 3: you know, what fans can make their own opinions THAT,
- 20:56Speaker 3: i you, know will sound like a homer IF i keep,
- 20:58Speaker 3: saying look at this, guy look at this. Guy BUT
- 21:00Speaker 3: i think so far he has impressed and the most
- 21:03Speaker 3: possibly the most impressive thing to me is just the
- 21:05Speaker 3: attitude and the demeanor The Cole. Calhoun you may be
- 21:09Speaker 3: going off the hair, color or you might be going
- 21:11Speaker 3: off you. Know he comes, out walks out to Heavy allison.
- 21:15Speaker 3: Chains you know he's got he's. Got Cole calhoun had
- 21:18Speaker 3: the chip on the. SHOULDER i see the same thing In.
- 21:20Speaker 3: MECKLER i don't, see you, know a party guy that
- 21:23Speaker 3: you know is flashing his. JEWELRY i see a guy
- 21:26Speaker 3: that's ready to you, know stick it up your SO
- 21:30Speaker 3: i hope he's here to.
- 21:31Speaker 4: STAY i like.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Him one of the THINGS i was going to ask,
- 21:33Speaker 3: you you Got Josh lowe hitting four hundred with two
- 21:36Speaker 3: home runs and a twelve hundred ops and TRIPLE?
- 21:39Speaker 4: A what do you do you the.
- 21:42Speaker 2: He two words. THERE i don't.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Know maybe it's three in TRIPLE. A you. Know, granted
- 21:49Speaker 1: they they did. Trade they gave up a really good
- 21:51Speaker 1: player to get this, guy so you could argue that
- 21:54Speaker 1: they've made an investment in him and THEY i don't
- 21:57Speaker 1: think they own anything though Until Wade.
- 21:59Speaker 2: Meckler where is?
- 22:00Speaker 1: He can't you, know hit big league pitching or can't
- 22:02Speaker 1: be a positive contributor to this? TEAM i, say you
- 22:05Speaker 1: keep Josh lowe right there, now you, know like likely
- 22:08Speaker 1: somebody will get, hurt maybe it will Necessitate Josh lowe's
- 22:13Speaker 1: return to the big.
- 22:13Speaker 2: Leagues BUT i don't know how YOU i don't.
- 22:15Speaker 1: REALLY i, mean he's great That josh lo is hitting
- 22:17Speaker 1: four hundreds better than him in two, hundred but to
- 22:20Speaker 1: me it's TRIPLE. A and he had plenty of time
- 22:23Speaker 1: to show he could hit big league pitching this year
- 22:26Speaker 1: and he hasn't one note on your algorithm and, DEFENSE
- 22:31Speaker 1: i will say in The angels, defense snow pun. Intended
- 22:34Speaker 1: they do Have Jose, siri who's a pretty good left.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Fielder as he Showed, sunday he did make a nice
- 22:41Speaker 1: robbery of a Potential Grand. SLAM i believe it was
- 22:43Speaker 1: off the bat Of walls that kept that game really.
- 22:46Speaker 2: Close it was early.
- 22:47Speaker 3: On he is a goofy guy out, there but, yeah
- 22:55Speaker 3: very talented and he's had some nice at. BATS i
- 22:57Speaker 3: like what he's doing. Too he's got good, energy polar
- 23:00Speaker 3: opposite Of. Meckler yeah in terms of, personality but you
- 23:04Speaker 3: know what he gets. After it looks like he plays,
- 23:06Speaker 3: hard and we like guys to play, hard or at
- 23:08Speaker 3: LEAST i.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Do, YEAH a couple of random stats out over the.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Weekend Von grissom eleven RBIs on the trip has done
- 23:15Speaker 1: a pretty nice job in the three hole With nolan
- 23:18Speaker 1: Shan well out on THE interu. List Mike trout fifty
- 23:23Speaker 1: six walks on the season leads the major. Leagues is
- 23:26Speaker 1: he just getting pitched a lot more carefully because of
- 23:31Speaker 1: the lack of protection in the, lineup or is he
- 23:36Speaker 1: just have a great eye and he's you, know is
- 23:38Speaker 1: this part of sort of the return to more of
- 23:41Speaker 1: the Mic trout that were used to, sing.
- 23:45Speaker 4: Let's keep it.
- 23:45Speaker 3: POSITIVE i think that bat has you, know he's played
- 23:49Speaker 3: well this. Year mike's played really. Well he's stinging line.
- 23:52Speaker 3: Drives the power is obviously. THERE i think that IS
- 23:58Speaker 3: i at the plate looks, great and he's a guy
- 23:59Speaker 3: that doesn't challenge very, often to the ire of some
- 24:03Speaker 3: they think he should.
- 24:04Speaker 4: Do it more. OFTEN i. Won't you, know it might
- 24:07Speaker 4: just be something that he.
- 24:09Speaker 2: It's not.
- 24:09Speaker 3: COMFORTABLE i wonder if that's maybe a little BIT i
- 24:14Speaker 3: would be able to give a much better. OPINION i
- 24:17Speaker 3: guess IF i was somebody who got to experience that
- 24:20Speaker 3: and AND i never got to AND i had opinions
- 24:22Speaker 3: many times that that was the ball's a terrible, call
- 24:28Speaker 3: but you didn't, know especially WHEN i first got called.
- 24:30Speaker 3: It it was not encouraged to go down and even
- 24:33Speaker 3: look in the video, room so you just had to
- 24:34Speaker 3: use what you. Know and now it's very. SCIENTIFIC i,
- 24:38Speaker 3: mean these things are so. Close you waste a couple
- 24:42Speaker 3: of challenges early it looks like you know bad and
- 24:46Speaker 3: it can cost, you and you start. LOOKING i start
- 24:48Speaker 3: looking at that column with you, know how many are
- 24:50Speaker 3: left about middle of the, game and if one team's
- 24:53Speaker 3: got to the other's got. None it's a pretty big
- 24:55Speaker 3: advantage in that.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Regard speaking, OPINIONS i wanted to get yours on the
- 25:01Speaker 1: pregame Ejection saturday of a couple of raised players who
- 25:04Speaker 1: are on the injured list along With Brent. SOUDOR i
- 25:08Speaker 1: guess they you see this around the league every now
- 25:11Speaker 1: and then a national anthem. Standoff he's a couple of
- 25:15Speaker 1: players remained standing for the anthem after it's over in
- 25:18Speaker 1: front of the.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Dugout see who blames.
- 25:21Speaker 1: First and sure, Enough Brent, suter who was, active he
- 25:24Speaker 1: wasn't gonna pitch that day because of his workload the day,
- 25:27Speaker 1: before he got. Ejected But Chase silseth was one of
- 25:31Speaker 1: the other pitchers who was standing there for a couple
- 25:34Speaker 1: of minutes or whatever it, was and luckily he peeled
- 25:37Speaker 1: off before they got, ejected because he turns out he
- 25:41Speaker 1: was needed later in that. Game did you did they
- 25:44Speaker 1: do this kind of stuff when you were, Playing, MARK
- 25:46Speaker 1: i don't seem to.
- 25:47Speaker 2: RECALL i don't, either BUT i mean it's.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Great there's just a lot of fun and these guys are,
- 25:54Speaker 3: laughing they're. Joking you, know he gets thrown, out so,
- 25:57Speaker 3: big no big. DEAL i think you answered your own question.
- 26:01Speaker 3: THERE i don't quite. Know i've seen.
- 26:04Speaker 4: IT i Think Joe kelly did, it and some other.
- 26:07Speaker 3: PEOPLE i, personally it's one of those things that to
- 26:11Speaker 3: each their. OWN i don't know IF i see the appeal.
- 26:14Speaker 3: THERE i think maybe bullpen relief pitchers are so bored
- 26:18Speaker 3: that you do stuff like. THAT i, now getting thrown.
- 26:23Speaker 3: OUT i don't know if they were. WARNED i don't
- 26:24Speaker 3: know if that's a lesson LEARNED i. DID i THINK
- 26:28Speaker 3: i messaged you immediately AND i wasn't quite, sure But
- 26:31Speaker 3: Trent russian, SAID i think they just threw him out
- 26:34Speaker 3: and then it was, quiet, nothing, nothing AND i saw
- 26:36Speaker 3: finally in the box score ejected AND i, said, well, Now,
- 26:40Speaker 3: suoner we're certain he in a situation late in an
- 26:45Speaker 3: extra inning, game he would. NOT i, mean there's a
- 26:48Speaker 3: potential he could have come. IN i understand what you're.
- 26:50Speaker 3: Saying he threw a lot of, pitches but he's kind
- 26:52Speaker 3: of a rubber arm. Guy ideally you wouldn't want to use.
- 26:54Speaker 3: Him but If i'm the manager of the you, know
- 26:57Speaker 3: If I'm, Kurt i'm not a big fan of anyone
- 27:01Speaker 3: being down for that. Reason so maybe that's the Last.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Yeah if you're on the if you're on the injured,
- 27:07Speaker 1: list have at, it have your.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Fun.
- 27:09Speaker 1: YEAH i think he threw thirty pitches a day. Before
- 27:11Speaker 1: but you're, right he's a rubber. Arm he might be
- 27:13Speaker 1: needed in the fourteenth, inning whatever it is to get
- 27:16Speaker 1: a lefty. Out so not a very smart play for
- 27:18Speaker 1: from a pretty smart. Guy Uh so that's a little.
- 27:21Speaker 1: Surprising let's quote the show will talk a little bit
- 27:23Speaker 1: About friday's. Game, boy it was a tight. Game in
- 27:27Speaker 1: the seventh, inning The angels had a one run. Lead
- 27:30Speaker 1: Ryan Zephyr john comes in After by the, way another
- 27:33Speaker 1: great start From Walbert. Arena he watched the number nine,
- 27:37Speaker 1: Batter Cedric mullins gets ahead Of yandi Diez ozho and
- 27:40Speaker 1: two there was a fastball on the outside corner that
- 27:44Speaker 1: was called the Ball LOGAN o'hoppi did not.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Challenge here's where that pitch. Was, now.
- 27:54Speaker 1: This was a tough no. Challenge The angels had both
- 27:59Speaker 1: of their challenges left at the. Time not sure why
- 28:02Speaker 1: he didn't. CHALLENGE i don't know if he was just
- 28:03Speaker 1: not set up right on that down the. Middle, yeah
- 28:08Speaker 1: and he kind of had the lunch for, it which
- 28:10Speaker 1: may have given him the impression that was it was
- 28:12Speaker 1: more outside than it. Was was that your impression seeing
- 28:15Speaker 1: it ON?
- 28:15Speaker 2: Tv my memory is not what he used to.
- 28:19Speaker 3: BE i THINK i might have messaged that to, you
- 28:21Speaker 3: AND i believe now THAT i. Did but it did
- 28:23Speaker 3: seem strange to me why he had positioned himself more
- 28:29Speaker 3: or less down the. Middle it was a, fastball so
- 28:32Speaker 3: unless it was a, cutter BUT i believe it was
- 28:34Speaker 3: just as as forcing. Possible so while you're stetting up
- 28:37Speaker 3: down the middle For Yondi diaz for a fastball was
- 28:40Speaker 3: a little. Bewildering so WHAT i think it was was
- 28:43Speaker 3: he got a little bit crossed. Up maybe the glove
- 28:47Speaker 3: you know darted in front of the eyes to some
- 28:49Speaker 3: degree and he just wasn't quite, Sure AND i guess
- 28:52Speaker 3: when in, DOUBT i probably wouldn't challenge. EITHER i obviously
- 28:55Speaker 3: came back to really burn, Them so that's the. Downside
- 28:59Speaker 3: BUT i think it goes back to the beginning with
- 29:02Speaker 3: what was the what was the original pitch call and
- 29:05Speaker 3: was it just, well actually, here here's WHAT i was. Thinking,
- 29:08Speaker 3: further now THAT i recall what Has Zephyr john done
- 29:11Speaker 3: a lot of this? Year and it's, sneaky but they've
- 29:14Speaker 3: mentioned he's hit a lot of, batters.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Hit a lot of batters and locked a lot of bears,
- 29:18Speaker 2: here so.
- 29:19Speaker 3: He's hit a lot of, guys AND i wonder if
- 29:21Speaker 3: there's a little bit of an issue and some sort
- 29:24Speaker 3: of him being uncomfortable seeing a target that's more towards
- 29:28Speaker 3: the inner part of the. Plate so if that is the,
- 29:31Speaker 3: case that would probably be the justification for, IDEALLY i
- 29:35Speaker 3: think they were trying to STUFF yondi up and in
- 29:37Speaker 3: that's WHERE i would pitch. Him he's got a very
- 29:39Speaker 3: flat bat swing. Path he did a lot of. Damage
- 29:42Speaker 3: he's got enormous biceps. Too if anyone was, wondering and,
- 29:46Speaker 3: no REALLY i, mean it's just a he, man but
- 29:48Speaker 3: uh so you're gonna want to pound him. Inside and
- 29:52Speaker 3: my gut says that they were trying to set up
- 29:55Speaker 3: where you, Know Zephyr John get you, know visually likes
- 29:58Speaker 3: the look of. It, unfortunately he yanked the pitch and
- 30:02Speaker 3: it went towards the outer part of the. PLANET i
- 30:04Speaker 3: could be totally, wrong that's my guess as to WHAT
- 30:06Speaker 3: i think was going, on you, know behind all of.
- 30:09Speaker 4: It to begin.
- 30:11Speaker 1: With, yeah next, Pitch dio's hit a hanging sweeper for
- 30:15Speaker 1: two run homer and they end up scoring was a
- 30:17Speaker 1: seven runs that inning for an eight to five. Win
- 30:21Speaker 1: but once, Again irania another great. Start six, innings, pitch five,
- 30:26Speaker 1: hits one an, run three, walks still a little, high
- 30:29Speaker 1: five strikeouts lowered as he lowered his e rate to
- 30:32Speaker 1: two point five to three and eight. Starts AND i don't,
- 30:37Speaker 1: know watch, you but what really impressed me about this,
- 30:39Speaker 1: again this is a twenty two year old. Kid mind,
- 30:41Speaker 1: you he got INTO i think two on jams in the, fourth, third,
- 30:45Speaker 1: fourth and six innings pitched out of. Him every time
- 30:50Speaker 1: when a kid that age and with his arsenal is
- 30:53Speaker 1: doing those kinds of, things is that sort of that
- 30:56Speaker 1: next level, maturity and this kid really seems to solidified
- 31:01Speaker 1: a spot in this rotation for.
- 31:02Speaker 2: SURE i have a question for.
- 31:05Speaker 3: You an alternate reality and The angels are going to
- 31:09Speaker 3: a one game do or die wild card.
- 31:11Speaker 4: Game who were you penciling in to?
- 31:15Speaker 1: Start for, me it depends on how guys are throwing the.
- 31:20Speaker 1: Ball it's gonna Come siano Or. Iringe i'd go With.
- 31:25Speaker 1: URANIA i think his stuff right. NOW i don't know
- 31:28Speaker 1: if it's that sinker change up combo when you you
- 31:33Speaker 1: hitting the big leads or, not but it seems like
- 31:35Speaker 1: those pitches play off each other really, well Because i'm
- 31:40Speaker 1: guessing he's got that, tunnel the same, tunnel the same
- 31:42Speaker 1: release point for both those, pitches and as a, hitter
- 31:46Speaker 1: whether you're righty or, left and he's throwing that change
- 31:49Speaker 1: up to righty's it's not just you, know usually the
- 31:51Speaker 1: change up from a right hitter is a weapon against.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Lefties he's throwing it to both Lefty, rightyes and it
- 31:57Speaker 1: just seems to have a moxie on the mound that
- 32:00Speaker 1: you certainly don't see from you, know kids that age
- 32:03Speaker 1: who are not Named Paul. Skeins so, YEAH i. GUESS
- 32:06Speaker 1: i Guess i'd go with him right, now how about.
- 32:08Speaker 3: You it's not a knock On, Jose sorry. ON i,
- 32:12Speaker 3: mean it's fantastic year so. Far some of the starts
- 32:15Speaker 3: a little better than. Others But walbert is incredibly. Composed
- 32:19Speaker 3: as we've, SAID i don't, know is that something you can?
- 32:22Speaker 3: TEACH i think to some. Degree but you, know he's
- 32:25Speaker 3: also really you, know he is an. Experience BUT i
- 32:28Speaker 3: think one thing he gave up the leadoff home run.
- 32:30Speaker 4: To, diaz and.
- 32:34Speaker 3: This is something that, guys you, know some of The angels,
- 32:36Speaker 3: pictures you don't need to name, names but when they
- 32:38Speaker 3: get hit hard or give up a, homer sometimes it
- 32:41Speaker 3: doesn't you, know it spirals on. Him this, Guy i'm
- 32:45Speaker 3: not going to use the, slang but he doesn't seem
- 32:47Speaker 3: to really. Care it was like it didn't happen or it,
- 32:53Speaker 3: did and it's not a big. Deal it's a solo home.
- 32:55Speaker 3: Run so What he's given his team a chance to
- 32:58Speaker 3: win each and every time. HIM i wouldn't look at
- 33:01Speaker 3: the one lost record. Whatsoever i'd look at the you,
- 33:04Speaker 3: know the quality of his, pitches the opposing. HITTERS i
- 33:09Speaker 3: don't see anyone now that he did give up that
- 33:11Speaker 3: opposite field home. Run but it DOESN'T i mean a
- 33:14Speaker 3: lot of weak. CONTACT i don't think that hitters really
- 33:18Speaker 3: understand or have a game plan how to combat him.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Yet that's WHAT i see. Now that may change a little.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Bit but when they're, LOOKING i guarantee in their scouting
- 33:27Speaker 3: reports and trying to figure out how to attack, him
- 33:29Speaker 3: it's got to be very confusing because no one's had much.
- 33:32Speaker 3: Success he throws as hard, well misseroskie probably but the
- 33:37Speaker 3: top you, know five hardest throwing starters in the. Game
- 33:40Speaker 3: but he also has tremendous, movement and then he's got
- 33:44Speaker 3: to wipe out change up that he's more liable to
- 33:46Speaker 3: throw than his near one hundred mile an hour. Fastball
- 33:49Speaker 3: so good.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Luck you.
- 33:51Speaker 3: Know we'll see if any teams come up with the
- 33:53Speaker 3: outside the box. Approach i've yet to see anyone make
- 33:56Speaker 3: a real adjustment against him.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Though.
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