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The Next Round: Alabama Rolls, Mississippi State Surges & SEC vs. Big Ten Debate | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Alabama goes on the road and they win at Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Kalen DeBoer talking about Keelan Russell, his redshirt freshman quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Could not have started out any worse. First drive goes
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  Speaker 1: backwards and a pick six before the first drive ends
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  Speaker 1: and you're down seven to nothing in your first road start.
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  Speaker 1: Very young team. Here's the Alabama coach on his quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: Keelan Russell.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he stays cool and calm. He believes in himself
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, that's, that's evident. Sometimes he going,
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  Speaker 2: going and trying to make a play, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: we just got to help him understand the situation and
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  Speaker 2: how to keep our, us on the field. Um, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to take his aggressiveness from away, away from
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  Speaker 2: him because there's some plays that he made out there too.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's a fine line. Uh, he's, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going to go, you know, help us win games. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he did that. I thought that played winning
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  Speaker 2: football in the second half and, uh, you know, first half,
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  Speaker 2: he's just got to, Make sure you find.
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  Speaker 3: A passing lane on screens so the ball can't get tipped.
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  Speaker 2: Some of those things at the end of the first half,
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  Speaker 2: just don't give up the needless points with an interception.
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  Speaker 2: Don't force things. He's a fighter, and he believes in himself.
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  Speaker 2: He's won a lot of football games at a high level.
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  Speaker 2: I know it was high school, but he understands what
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  Speaker 2: that pressure is all about. It was great to see
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  Speaker 2: him come out in the second half and play the
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  Speaker 2: game he did.
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  Speaker 1: It was the worst time to ever play Kentucky in
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  Speaker 1: a road game. Because they were all fired up for
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  Speaker 1: Will Stein. They had hope.
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  Speaker 4: It was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And then you've got one returning starter on offense, and
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  Speaker 1: you run out there for that first drive. And in
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  Speaker 1: typical fashion, when you're on a road, it starts going
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  Speaker 1: backwards on you with that young team. And then the
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  Speaker 1: pick six, and you're down 7-0. And you just think
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, well, this is about to implode in. When
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  Speaker 1: it's all said and done, 32 unanswered points in the
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  Speaker 1: second half, and they win the football game. And there
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  Speaker 1: were a lot of positives, I think, that came out
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  Speaker 1: of that game for Alabama.
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  Speaker 5: Defensively, I would say that. I think Cain Womack's defense
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  Speaker 5: is going to be fantastic. It really showed in the
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  Speaker 5: second half. And look, seven of those points obviously were
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  Speaker 5: a gimme from the offense.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know about the offense. I think Keelan Russell's
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  Speaker 6: going to be really good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you saw some of the uncoachable things, like
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  Speaker 5: his ability to stop and start and that one scramble.
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  Speaker 6: I forgot how far he went on that run.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was 16 yards.
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  Speaker 6: With all that said, Daniel Hill, to me, slowest running
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  Speaker 6: back in the SEC.
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  Speaker 1: You're too hard on that guy. 104 yards, 85 of
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  Speaker 1: it after contact. Hard to get up to full speed when.
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  Speaker 4: You're getting hit. And I don't disagree with you that
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  Speaker 4: he is slow. But the guy plays his tail off.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he is a hard player. No doubt.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, obviously that's their best running back, the
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  Speaker 5: guy they trust the most right now. The offensive line
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  Speaker 5: still don't think it's any good. And I don't think
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  Speaker 5: they have any dynamic playmakers at wide receiver.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, you and I disagree on Lottie Brooks.
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  Speaker 4: I really like Lottie Brooks. And Ryan Coleman-Williams is a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a non-factor in the game. They just weren't
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  Speaker 4: able to get the ball to him. They found Pritchett
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  Speaker 4: at tight end. I think they found something they like
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  Speaker 4: there with him.
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  Speaker 5: I think Ryan Coleman Williams might be the most overrated
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  Speaker 5: player in college football.
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  Speaker 4: They struggle to get the ball to him. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if he's not getting open. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: he's drawing double coverage so everybody else can be open.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but He was pretty much a non-factor
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  Speaker 4: in this game Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: But they dominated the second half. I mean, with that said,
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  Speaker 5: they go in, they're down at half. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: what kind of text you guys were getting. You don't
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  Speaker 5: want to read them. You know, DeBoer is done. And
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  Speaker 5: then even after the game, it flipped around to Ryan
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  Speaker 5: Grubbs done.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Alabama fans aren't happy with the 28-point win.
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  Speaker 4: The miscommunication or the lack of helmet communications in the
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  Speaker 4: third quarter was a talking point after the game in
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  Speaker 4: helmet comms for a little bit. And Lugan Bill and
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  Speaker 4: I were texting during the game. He made a point
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  Speaker 4: like in the third quarter, they are taking the RPO
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  Speaker 4: away from Keelan. They're calling a run play. They're calling
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  Speaker 4: a pass play. That's not the RPO.
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  Speaker 1: And that seemed to be where they really got the
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  Speaker 1: offense cooking at that point. I wonder if that's something.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the RPO is so important. That's what Keelan's
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  Speaker 1: going to do best. But I wonder at points in
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  Speaker 1: the game if they try to simplify that a little
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  Speaker 1: bit Florida State, Mississippi State, but especially against Georgia. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I will say one thing RPO can do, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying Alabama is or is not doing this, but
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  Speaker 1: one thing RPO can do for you is some of
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  Speaker 1: these younger backs you might not quite trust in pass protection.
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  Speaker 1: You trust Daniel Hill in pass protection, but Treshawn Brown
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  Speaker 1: and EJ Crowell that you might not quite trust in
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  Speaker 1: pass protection. Having them in on the RPO plays kind
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  Speaker 1: of changes that a little bit. Your pass protection there
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  Speaker 1: is the threat of the run. And you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get the ball out so quick. You have to get
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  Speaker 1: it out quick on an RPO or you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have a man downfield, which happened to Alabama. They had
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  Speaker 1: the man downfield on that one play because it took
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  Speaker 1: Russell too long to get it out. If you're going
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  Speaker 1: to run the RPO, you've got to get it out quick, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: And you can maybe mix those backs in a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more and give Hill some rest in those situations.
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  Speaker 5: Where are you guys on Alabama, though? I know it's
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  Speaker 5: two games. It's not great competition. Look, they're averaging 44.
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  Speaker 5: six and a half points a game. I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 5: Kentucky's not great competition. That's an improved team. Will Stein's
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  Speaker 5: a good coach and that's an SEC win on the road.
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  Speaker 5: So I do not buy that's not, to me, you know,
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  Speaker 5: playing Howard is not good competition. Playing Florida A &
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  Speaker 5: M is not good competition. I thought I thought that
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  Speaker 5: was good competition this weekend. I mean, Kentucky's definitely improved.
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  Speaker 5: But with all that said, I think Mississippi State could
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  Speaker 5: be a problem.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, they will be.
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  Speaker 5: I looked at this four-game gauntlet for Alabama before the
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  Speaker 5: season when you start with Georgia, Tennessee, A & M,
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  Speaker 5: and LSU. And I said all summer you go 2-2,
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  Speaker 5: you get to a college football playoff. But I think
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  Speaker 5: kind of a trap game before with Mississippi State before Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean– Somebody said in the chat, and I'll
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  Speaker 4: try to give them credit here, was Ben in the
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  Speaker 4: chat said, Dunaway said going into Friday, this can't be
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  Speaker 4: everybody's sexy upset alert. And then you don't give Alabama
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  Speaker 4: credit for the win. Actually, I was the one that
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  Speaker 4: said that. Jim agreed. I think Lance agreed. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: either Kentucky was good enough to beat Alabama or they weren't.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't know how you play the You know,
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  Speaker 4: Herb Street picked Kentucky on game day. And I think
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  Speaker 4: his rationale for picking Kentucky was that Alabama quit in
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  Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl, which I thought was a weird rationale.
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  Speaker 4: But that picked him as an outright winner. That was
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  Speaker 4: an outright winner. Not against the spread. That was an
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  Speaker 4: outright winner. He was the only one on the show.
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  Speaker 4: So people can't, you know, you can't make that pick
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  Speaker 4: and say, ah, Kentucky's trash. They're improved. Are they a
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  Speaker 4: top half of the SEC team? No, not yet. Will
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  Speaker 4: Stein may get them there, but he doesn't have them
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  Speaker 4: there yet. But I got several texts. It was best
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  Speaker 4: put from one of my golf buddies that was on
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  Speaker 4: a trip up there with some of my golf buddies
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  Speaker 4: were on a trip, and he was one of them.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, you would not believe the hornet's nest
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  Speaker 4: we have walked into. He's an Alabama fan saying that.
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  Speaker 4: It looked good on TV.
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  Speaker 3: It did.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he was like, man, this crowd. I've been
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  Speaker 4: all over the SEC. This crowd's insane right now. You know,
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  Speaker 4: we all love Kalen DeBoer. I'm a huge fan. But
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  Speaker 4: his teams don't seem prepared on the road.
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  Speaker 6: Again, they win 45-17. But they were kind of shell-shocked
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  Speaker 6: in that first half.
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  Speaker 4: That was a shaky start. There's a lot of penalties.
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  Speaker 4: I don't understand, as we discuss this game, if we're
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  Speaker 4: going to have instant replay, I just don't understand how
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  Speaker 4: we keep getting calls wrong on instant replay.
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  Speaker 6: You talking about the out-of-bounds?
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  Speaker 4: Well, there were two. I mean, that was not a catch.
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  Speaker 4: The one that got overturned, it was a point down
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  Speaker 4: hold for Alabama. That was not a catch. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: They led to points. Yeah, and I thought— Yeah, that
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  Speaker 6: was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Who was the rules guy? Was it Matt Austin, I think,
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  Speaker 4: in that game?
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  Speaker 7: Whatever.
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  Speaker 4: No, Lemonier. Was it? Well, whoever it was was like,
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  Speaker 4: when you slow it down, it looks like a catch,
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  Speaker 4: but you can't slow it down. You've got to make
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  Speaker 4: the catch no catch in real time.
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  Speaker 6: There was no catch.
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  Speaker 4: There was no way that was a catch. No way.
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  Speaker 1: It's the same referee that's on with Herbstreit. He's at
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  Speaker 1: the Herb Street game, but he's watching the game.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's Steve Shaw now. Okay, you're right. So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: that's irrelevant. But whoever the guy was. It was the
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  Speaker 4: guy that used to be on with those guys. Whoever
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  Speaker 4: the guy was was like, you can't call that a catch.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's in slow motion. And then the Daniel
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  Speaker 4: Hill thing, guys, I have yet to see a replay
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  Speaker 4: where he's out of bounds.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're like, well, it was a step before. Well,
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  Speaker 6: show us.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, show us the step before. No, they did.
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  Speaker 1: The clip that people keep sending us is that next step,
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  Speaker 1: which is easily in. The one they're calling, I think,
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  Speaker 1: is the one. But I still saw green.
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  Speaker 4: He's not out of bounds.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know how your shoe, like the sole
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  Speaker 1: of your shoe is on the ground and a little
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  Speaker 1: bit when you're cutting a little bit of your shoe.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. But it looks like it was,
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  Speaker 4: there's no way it was.
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  Speaker 6: Did he mark him out of bounds on the plate?
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  Speaker 4: They put him on the three. So it was the
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  Speaker 4: step on the three because that's where the ball was placed.
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  Speaker 4: And I just, I never saw it. I mean, like
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  Speaker 4: every replay they show was green. It was the best
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  Speaker 4: pylon cam.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it was perfect. Right down the line right there,
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  Speaker 4: you could easily see the green. And they've got access
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  Speaker 4: to that camera.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said in our post-game video is the
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  Speaker 1: SEC has got to come along with everyone else now. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we've got to be able to hear, because I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to hear what they were saying. Okay, it's obvious from
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  Speaker 1: our angle here, he's stepping out at the three.
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  Speaker 4: It's obvious. Well, look, Alabama scored on the next play,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was, Daniel Hill still got his touchdown.
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  Speaker 9: The one that got me was the fourth down penalty
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  Speaker 9: called on the Alabama defense for delay of game.
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  Speaker 4: It's simulation of the snap. You can't do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Bray Hubbard came right into there clapping.
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  Speaker 9: I understand that. It cannot be a simulation of the snap.
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  Speaker 9: You clap when you're in the shotgun. They were lined
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  Speaker 9: up under center. You don't clap. Your hands are in
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  Speaker 9: the center's ass. There's no clapping involved in a snap
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  Speaker 9: if you're lined up under center. It can't be a
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  Speaker 9: simulation of the snap. Some people got frustrated with the
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  Speaker 9: defensive hold on the lineman, but that was. It was
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  Speaker 9: a defensive hold. If you go back and watch the video.
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  Speaker 1: What you're doing there is you're holding defenders to— clear
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  Speaker 1: space for one of your guys to get through you
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  Speaker 1: can't they can't block you don't want the defenders getting
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  Speaker 1: to the second level and blocking the linebacker and it
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  Speaker 1: was a clear hold if you go back and watch
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  Speaker 1: it so that one they got right on 88 i
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  Speaker 1: think yeah it was um but uh yeah the the
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  Speaker 1: clap by brie hubbard and again this defense like if
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  Speaker 1: you if you look at it they're off the field
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  Speaker 1: on that fourth down gets overturned on replay kentucky scores
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  Speaker 1: the field goal before the half was a terrible keelan
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  Speaker 1: russell um a decision that led to the field goal
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  Speaker 1: They scored 17, although the other seven was the batted
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  Speaker 1: ball that scored. I mean, really, Alabama's defense.
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  Speaker 4: Gave out nothing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and outside of East Carolina, the one, you know,
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  Speaker 5: blown coverage. I mean, the defense has been great. Caleb Woodson, really.
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  Speaker 4: Really good.
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  Speaker 6: The Virginia Tech transfer.
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  Speaker 4: And that front four, like, if people were worried about
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  Speaker 4: Russo and James Smith leaving, you shouldn't be. Yeah. Devin Tompkins,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, that strip sack.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Which I think flipped the game, really. I agree. What
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  Speaker 4: gave it to Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, 300 pounds and he was lined up on the
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  Speaker 1: edge there he came off the edge at 300 pounds.
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  Speaker 5: I know playing for usc last year came off fast
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  Speaker 5: at 300 pounds yeah the defense is championship like you
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  Speaker 5: know this could be oklahoma last year where alabama goes
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  Speaker 5: and wins 10 games and host a playoff game based
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  Speaker 5: on defense i just i'm not a fan of the
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  Speaker 1: Times where you should leave history and politics out of sports.
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  Speaker 1: We may have reached that point in the Kansas-Missouri border war.
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  Speaker 1: A rivalry in sports named literally after a border war,
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  Speaker 1: the Civil War between Kansas and Missouri. And the Kansas
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  Speaker 1: social media folks in one of the strangest, give me Brooks' microphone,
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  Speaker 1: one of the strangest releases ever. This was leaning at
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  Speaker 1: heroes and villains. And this is back in the Civil
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  Speaker 1: War days, Kansas and Missouri, free states, not free states.
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  Speaker 4: They sent this out.
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  Speaker 1: When I checked before my Friday night high school football game, Brooks,
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  Speaker 1: their hype video had 30 million views on Twitter, on X.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was on the other platforms.
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  Speaker 1: But most people were looking at it because it went
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  Speaker 1: into the history, not sports, but the actual blood history
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  Speaker 1: of why there was a border war. It got drug
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  Speaker 1: into this rivalry game. Was that one of the strangest
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  Speaker 1: hype videos you've ever seen in your years of looking
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  Speaker 1: at social media?
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  Speaker 4: It was to me.
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  Speaker 9: It felt like, you know, I know what you're setting
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  Speaker 9: up here from a Drinkwits presser standpoint. And I agree
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  Speaker 9: with a lot that he had to say. It was
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  Speaker 9: extremely just kind of seemed unjustified. You know, it felt like.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know how this got approved by the PR department,
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: anyone involved with that. And the fact that they didn't–
• 14:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, I guess you've got to own it. They
• 14:35
  Speaker 9: never deleted it. I guess at that point you've got
• 14:37
  Speaker 9: to own it once it gets kind of– Starts doing
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: its thing on social media.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: They played it inside the stadium. They were proud of it.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: The editing and stuff was really cool. Oh, no, it's
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: very well done.
• 14:49
  Speaker 9: It was well produced, but the messaging behind it felt
• 14:53
  Speaker 9: a little too extreme.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it got into fighting for slavery and
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, leading into a sporting event. And
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Missouri wins the game on the field, which is, by
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: the way, it's college football. Eli Drinkowitz afterwards, he tacked
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: on a touchdown. throwing to the end zone, tacked on
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: a touchdown late, and he said there was a reason
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: why he did that.
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: I was disappointed in the turn that it took today.
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: I thought that was uncalled for. And, you know, this
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: is about two teams playing football, and especially on 9-11
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: when we need more unity now than ever before, to
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: be putting some stuff on your screen celebrating, I mean,
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: Everybody's got complicated pasts, you know, and to make that
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: an icon was bizarre to me. And so I'm just glad,
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: you know, that this whole right versus wrong bull crap
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: that was started just got settled on.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: A football field because it's a football game. It's a
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: football game. It's an American football game that people love
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: to come watch and cheer for their teams. It's not
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: any deeper than that. And I get there's a past
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: to it. But why are we stirring that bull crap up?
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: You know, it's 9-11. This country needs unity now more
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: than ever. And I was embarrassed for him, to be honest.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: And that's why I tried to embarrass him at the end.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was embarrassed for him, and that's why I
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: tried to embarrass him at the end. I think anybody
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: that's watched the show knows I'm not a big fan
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: of that guy, but I loved that. I mean, number one,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: he owned the fact that, yes, I was throwing in
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: the end zone at the end to embarrass him. But
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: number two, he is absolutely right about everything he said
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Did you see the KU chick flicking the guy off
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: after he scored?
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: I did, I did. I was like, my God.
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: First of all, I think Austin Simmons is really good.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Now– That Kansas defense is probably not very good, but
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: I think they're improved offensively, and especially when they get
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: Ahmad Hardy back.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the whole thing. They're doing this without the
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: leading rusher in the SEC.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Their defense, Isaiah Marshall, the quarterback for Lance Leopold, boy,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: he was shaky.
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: He had some open receivers.
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: I don't think Missouri's defense is going to be as good,
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: but I think the offense is going to be better.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: With that said, Austin Simmons is going to be.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: A tough out. But Missouri's not better than Alabama in
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: your eyes.
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: No.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Okay. I had not seen the video. And I know
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: you were doing other things, keeping up with the game.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Brando would not quit talking about how he did a rivalry.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Did you have the volume up?
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, was I wrong? He played into it. This
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: is pure hatred. This is the border war. I mean,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: it was standard Brando. He started a little like a vampire.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: He really is. It was standard Brando. And it did
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: get a little scrappy. And then it was later in
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: the game that I found out about this whole video thing.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: And because when... Drink is throwing in the end zone lane.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I was like, boy, that was weird.
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: He's leaning into this rubber. So you had not heard
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: about it going into the game. I just thought Brando
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: was way overselling this thing. I had no idea. And,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: you know, I thought Brando, I didn't listen to the game.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It was, they don't play again, I think,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: until 2031. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So it was. It'll
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: die down. No, I'm just saying it was a big, big,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: bloody lead into this game. It was, it was. a
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: lot of hate between those two schools, and they were
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: leaning into it on the Kansas.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to see it next year.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like them to play again. There's no doubt.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was in Kansas' stadium. Been a while
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: since they'd had it, but a big win for Missouri there.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M beat Arizona State. We talked about
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: that a little bit earlier passing, but now Texas A &
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: M gets Kentucky back there at Kyle Field, and I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: get the feeling you don't think Kentucky can go into–
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Aggieland and make it interesting at all?
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: If it wasn't for the Aggies' big play defense in
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter, I mean, that game comes down to
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: a final possession. I thought Cutter Bowley, the former Kentucky quarterback,
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: was pretty good. Made a couple of mistakes there. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: am very unsure on A & M in this offense.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: 3-12 on third downs. They missed Casey Concepcion. Reuben Owens
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: is a good back. He's not a great back. And
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Marcel Reed, a lot of this is going to fall
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: on him. I like Elko a lot, but I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: so sure how good this A & M team is.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: And keep in mind, his defensive coordinator from last year,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: now Elko's a defensive guy, obviously, but his coordinator from
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: last year is Kentucky's coordinator. So if there is a
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: fall off on Kentucky's defense, you do legitimately ask the question,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: was that it? I mean, the fact that they lost
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: their coordinator to Kentucky.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: And Colin Klein, now the head coach of Kansas State.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: And I was going to ask you, Holman Wiggins, our
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: buddy Connor O'Gara said, you know, Based on the research,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: he is the only first-time play caller in all the
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: SEC this year.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not that he's the only new coordinator. He's the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: first coordinator that has never called.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Plays in the past. Never called plays anywhere, and he's
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: doing it for A & M, and their offense has
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: not really been the problem. The problem in that game
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: was every time A & M would score, and you thought, well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: that puts the game away, their defense would let Arizona
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: State come right back down and score.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Was, I mean, the offense, 255 yards, they couldn't run
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the football on Arizona State.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. That's a problem.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: And as Dillingham said afterwards, our stats show that we
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: should have won this game. That's why stats are for losers.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: They get on a flight now. They fly to London
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: to play Kansas.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Which is stupid.
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: And the– Hey, they're much improved without Leavitt. You think so? Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: They are better looking.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: At least in that one game this past weekend, they
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: did look better offensively without Sam Leavitt. It's a lot
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of great games coming up this weekend. You can go
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: to my socials to get the TV schedule, the notes,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to take notes all weekend long. When we come back, though,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the growing superstar in the SEC finally gets a real
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: SEC challenge this weekend. We talk about Super Camario next
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: right here on the next round presented by Hard Rock
• 20:37
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• 20:40
  Speaker 1: round presented by Hard Rock Bets on Sport and State.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Getting ready for a big weekend coming up. Before Brownie
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: tells us about XXXY, we react to what we saw
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: this past weekend. Listen, there are some traditions in sports,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and I think I've seen it one time live, Ralphie
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: running for Colorado. But think about our new Ralphie. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: she is apparently the fastest Ralphie they've ever had to date.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Watch Ralphie coming out of the gate. Look at the speed, y'all.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Good Lord.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: That's a different, you know, you see it in slow-mo sometimes.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Look how fast that is. That's not sped up. Those
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: four people having to keep up holding that rope. That's
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: 173 yards they have to run on that dead sprint.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: That full sprint.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's beyond dangerous. We've seen this go bad before.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Maddie asked me over the weekend. She was like, this
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: is AI. They don't have a real buffalo. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: they've got a real buffalo.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Now, they're babies. They get a lot bigger than this.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: But the old one is out in the pasture now
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and this one.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: But look at that. That is... That's a dead sprint.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: What kind of brakes that thing have? Because watch it
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: go into this trailer. That's why the head's flat. I mean,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: They're just trusting the animal to slam on the brakes here.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I guess so.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: But, I mean, when you've got basically not a harness
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: but the leash right there, like if that thing gets
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: caught up, somebody gets pulled under that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Well, that's just four ropes, by the way. And that
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: old girl in the back there, I don't see how
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: any of them is keeping up.
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: No.
• 22:11
  Speaker 10: No.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is full sprint. They have got to
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: be exhausted at the end of this.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like a bracket challenge loser right there.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: They sign up for that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I know. 55, 60, 65, 70, 75. So 75. 78,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and you're turning there. That's right, and then you go
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: back the other 78 at full sprint.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going to need oxygen.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: Imagine doing this in jeans, and I think the girls
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: in the back look like they have cowgirl boots on.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: And, by the way, at altitude. Yeah, they're cowboy boots
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: worn by girls, right? We don't call them cowgirl boots,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: do we?
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the girl in the very back, boy, she's having
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: a hard time keeping up.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Cowperson boots.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: But watch them try to slam on the brakes once
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: they let go of the leash.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: If you're the inside, you don't have much runway here.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to stop pretty quick here.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, yeah. Looks like one old boy jumps
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: in the wagon with him. Yeah, I would not do that. No,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: that'd be a mistake.
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Just, I thought it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: That impresses me more from the high view, no slow-mo,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: just full speed. Hats off to Ralphie running. Colorado got
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the win. Dion spoke in tongues afterwards.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It was all good. Legitimately did. You're not making that up.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: He started his press conference speaking in tongues.
• 23:19
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• 23:21
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• 24:23
  Speaker 4: State beats Minnesota 38-13. Kamario Taylor had three touchdowns. He
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: rushed for 86. No interceptions. It's a road win in
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten for Mississippi State. Here's Kamario after the win.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: You were on the team last year and in the
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: locker room when you guys beat Arizona State and Arkansas
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: in really close wins. But what does it just feel
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: like to have a win like this where it's pretty
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: convincing and win by a big total?
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: It means a lot just winning the game, period, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: no matter the score, no matter what. But I feel
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: like we all know that we love playing on the field.
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: We all know we could have did better and we
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: could have executed better on our end of the ball. So, like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: we're not satisfied at all of it. We're happy that
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: we won. We're glad we got the dub for our
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: fan base and for our coaches. But we know as
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: a team and as a unit, even the coaches know
• 25:10
  Speaker 11: that we should have put that game away real early.
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: And we know, so we can't be sad if we
• 25:14
  Speaker 11: got to try to build on that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Two games, Lance. 581 yards passing, 145 yards rushing, eight touchdowns,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: no interception. Minnesota's not a bad football team, and doing
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: it up there to them What do you make of
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Camario and Mississippi State so far?
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: I think he is a top four or five quarterback
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: in the SEC already.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: I am not ready to say this is a Cam
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: Newton-Auburn situation, but they're going to beat a couple of
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: teams they shouldn't this year.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: They're an extremely difficult talent. And if you happen to
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: catch them in Starkville, like Alabama does in a couple weeks,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: really difficult.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: This is what's going to be frustrating for Alabama fans
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: and Oklahoma fans.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: Mississippi State can run the football.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: And, you know, it starts with Camario, but Fluff Bothwell–
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: He goes for 113, over six yards a carry on
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: the road against a really sound Minnesota defense.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I mean, they blew him out of the water early.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: At halftime, you knew it was over.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, Minnesota offensively wasn't going to come back with
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Drake Lindsey, but Kamario Taylor should be a bigger story.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: If he was playing for anybody outside of Mississippi State,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: he would be a bigger story.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, let me make this point real quick, Brownie.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: ESPN's SP Plus from where the preseason was to where
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: it is after two weeks. The five biggest improved teams
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: from where they were to where they are now, LSU, Utah, Alabama,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Kansas State is the second best improvement. Mississippi State's the
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: biggest improvement. Kansas State and Mississippi State, two and one.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Just watch out.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: I've just got a feeling, and I said this a
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: decade ago with Ole Miss, and Alabama fans got upset,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: but it came to fruition.
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: I think Mississippi State's going to beat Alabama in Starkville.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Coming up in a couple weeks.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: I do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just think it's going to be a
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: really difficult game. I think Alabama's going to be like
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: a seven-point favorite. And Mississippi State's probably a five- or
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: six-win team, which would be– I don't know how you
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: guys feel.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: That would be a hell of an improvement for Jeff Levy.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I mean– They were five and seven last year, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I think went to a bowl game because of the APR.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But they are a team that has a quarterback that
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: is a superstar.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: You can't deny that. He's that good. I mean, it was–
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: To me, and understand, you know, I'm probably grading this
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: on a curve. I think it was the most impressive
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: thing I saw in the SEC this weekend. The way
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: they beat Minnesota up there. Not that Minnesota's great. Not
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: that this is a tough place to play. But State
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: going on the road. against a power conference team that's
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: at least a mid-tier power conference team. You just have
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: not seen them do this over the years.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if I'm an Arkansas fan, what is going on?
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Like I saw Arkansas fans talking about Silverfield this weekend
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: and like how outcoached they were.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Uncompetitive at Utah. They really were.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it was just embarrassing down 29-3
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: at halftime. But they were on the other end of
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: the spectrum. Like, if I'm an Arkansas fan, I look
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: at Mississippi State, and I'm like, they were awful a
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: couple of years ago.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: And you see promise with Mississippi State.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: At least.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: You know, and this coming weekend, I don't know how
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: you guys feel about it, but going up to Columbia
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: to take on South Carolina, he is the better quarterback
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: of him and Lenore Sellers.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I agree, and that's two teams that can run the football.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: South Carolina is running the heck out of the football
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: That's one of those sneaky good games that will be
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: off the radar this week in the SEC. It's a
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: prove-it time for Mississippi State. Minnesota is one thing. Winning
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: in the SEC on the road is another thing. We'll
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: see what they do at South Carolina. Same for South Carolina, though.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: A win over them, and now we start to respect
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: them a little bit. By the way, quickly, the five
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: SP-plus declining teams, according to Bill Connolly, since the season began.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Washington's the fifth worst. Texas Tech's the fourth worst. More
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: on them in a moment. Arkansas, the third worst. Oregon's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the second worst, and Rutgers is the.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Worst, from where they were to where they are now
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: after two weeks. Where was Arkansas? I know they sucked,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: but I thought they sucked going in. I'm surprised they're
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: on that list. I think they were, like some SEC teams,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: I think the worst were in the 40s.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: You know how difficult it is to start in the
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: top 25, start the season 2-0 and fall out of
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: the poll?
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: I think that's the first time in poll history, isn't it, Washington?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: And then Texas Tech.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I give DeMarcus Shepard a lot of credit because I
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: said this last week on the show. Houston has serious
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: problems in the secondary. I think it might be how
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: DeMarcus and his staff are or dialing up plays.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: Because that Legree kid can play.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: That receiver.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: DeMarcus Shepard, Oregon State. Legree, what was he this week?
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: 283 receiving? Is that what he was?
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: 240.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Eight catches, 242 touchdowns.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: And that was played in a lot of rain. And
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Texas Tech, there is no explosion. Well, I think I've
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: got it coming up in four downs.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: But I've got a point on Joey McGuire.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the Beavs led that game against Texas Tech.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: 24-21 deep into the fourth quarter before Texas Tech finally–
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: gets out a lot you you texted me and said
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: tech is in trouble and i was like yeah uh
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: brinkey it's going backwards well actually i was talking about
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: texas tech but yes and is that list by the
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: way i mean georgia takes uh they didn't make the
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: bottom five i'm sure they're they gotta be close yeah
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: yeah but uh but no texas tech is not i
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: mean this is what you worried about when they lost
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: sorsby and everybody's like ah will hammond comes in don't
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: even adjust the point spreads I mean, through two games,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: that has not looked like a very good team.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Castellanos came in, and I almost would really take a
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: look at Castellanos.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: I projected it last week. I don't know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: It must have been the day you were out, but
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I told Brown. I said, they've got Castellanos ready to go.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I bet he gets into the game this weekend after
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: watching him in game one, and they had a package
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: for him, and they'll probably keep that package moving forward.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: We know why they fought so hard for Brendan Sorsby now.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: In that Big 12 this weekend, you get Houston and
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Texas Tech on Friday night.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: You get SMU and Louisville Saturday in the ACC. Georgia
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Tech's down in the ACC. Clemson seems to be down
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: in the ACC. Miami's at the top. SMU versus Louisville
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: coming up this weekend. Two teams we've seen in competitive games.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Louisville losing to Ole Miss. SMU beating Florida State. Where
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: are you on SMU and Louisville as we get ready
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: for that game?
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think you could see the winner
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: of this game play Miami for the conference championship because
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: you look at the rest of the conference, Virginia notwithstanding,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: we need to see some more from Virginia. Clemson ain't
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: turning it around. They were bad again. They didn't score
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: in the final three quarters of the game. They're changing quarterbacks.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: So Clemson's down. Florida State's down. They're about to go
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: get drubbed by Alabama. Um, Georgia Tech, I don't think,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: can turn this thing around. That's going to be a
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: bad Georgia Tech team. 0-2 both at home. Yeah, both
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: at home 0-2 and one last second. Tennessee whipped them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, Tennessee absolutely whipped Georgia Tech. I just don't
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: know where else the contenders in the ACC are going
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: to come from, Lance, if not Louisville, SMU, and Virginia.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: Well, you're defending ACC champion.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: I'm not a Manny Diaz guy, but they have the
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: best running back in the country in Nate Shepard.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: I really believe that.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: As good as Kiwan Lacy is, I think Nate Shepard
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: might be the best running back.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: They go to Illinois. They beat them. Not that Illinois
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: is world beaters.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've got to put Nate Shepard up on
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the rack this weekend to change his four tires. I mean,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: he's carried the ball 59 times in two games.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: And I would keep feeding him.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: First game, 35 carries, 227 yards, and at Illinois, 24
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: for 147.
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: I watched way too much of that game because I
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: had Duke plus the points this weekend.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: But, man, he is so freaking good.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: With all that said, I still think– I've got a
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: feeling that Keen Holtz, by the end of the year,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: we might be talking about him as a first-round quarterback.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I think he is going to be one of the surprises.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: And everybody's talking about Kevin Jennings, and deservingly so. He's
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: got so much experience. But I think Keen Holtz could
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: be the difference this weekend.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an under-the-radar, really good game, Louisville and SMU.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisville, Keen Holtz quarterback, maybe the best Brahma's had
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: in his time at Louisville. All right, show me the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: AP poll, if you can, Forrester. Texas is number one.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: The big question, I think everybody knew Texas was going
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to be number one. They wanted to know how far
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Ohio State would drop and how far Oregon would drop.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: For Ohio State, down to six. So it's Texas, Georgia,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami, Ohio State, LSU and Ole Miss,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: seven and eight. They play each other this weekend.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Texas, A & M, and Alabama rounding up the top ten.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: Oregon.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Drops all the way down to 21.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Fair or not fair? I think it's fair because I
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: think you've got to judge them only on the two
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: games they played, not on what you thought they were
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: going to be. So if you judge them on the
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: two games they played, Dante Moore probably has played C- football,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: if not D-level football for them. Fair. Defense has played
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: F football, so why would I have them... I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: you could make an argument to drop them all the
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: way out, but they won the Boise game, so that
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: wasn't going to happen.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't keep up with all of it, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: is game control still something?
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: That is... I don't think AP uses that. I think
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: game control is something in the college football playoff, which
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Oregon may not have to worry about.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, they haven't had game control even back to
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Boise and Autzen.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: So you're saying they were... They were losing late in
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: that one, right?
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that was just a back-and-forth affair with
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: a group six, and I'll be at a really good
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: group six, but still, that is a game that they
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: should have easily. I mean, they've been 24-and-a-half-point favorites in
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: both of their first two matchups. That's how much talent
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: they have. This makes no sense where Oregon is, but yes,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: I think it is very deserving they're sitting at 21
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: There are six Big Ten teams ranked higher than them,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: six of them, and I don't think that leagues that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: deep to where Oregon at seven is. If they really
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: are the seventh best team in the league, there's not
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a playoff team.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: But to your point real quick, they're better than Michigan
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: in front of them.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I think so, too.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: They're better than Iowa. They're better than Penn State. I
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: don't know about USC. I think USC is going to
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: end up being really, really good.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I would say USC, the way Oregon's defense is playing
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: right now, what would USC score on them? I mean—
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Maiva and that USC offense would have a field day
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: against that Oregon defense, and they probably will in a
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: couple weeks. I would expect it would look a lot
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: like the Bears and Panthers. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and just because I'm making these probably ridiculous statements,
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Nate Shepard best running back, Trent Mosley fourth best offensive
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: player right now in football.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: And that's a true freshman for USC.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Who Oregon's going to have to defend, and Oregon hasn't
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: defended anybody. And to Dan Lanning's credit, he's right. The
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma State Oregon score did not indicate what a whipping
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: that was.
• 35:45
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• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Texas now number one in the AP poll, and they've
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: got the Ohio State win in their back pocket, something
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Sark talked about after the game.
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  Speaker 12: I know you ended last season thinking that you know
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: the loss to Ohio State maybe cost you a playoff
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  Speaker 12: spot if you'd have played somebody easier to play you
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  Speaker 12: know now that you have this one in the bank
• 38:09
  Speaker 12: just curious your thoughts about being on the other side
• 38:11
  Speaker 12: of that knowing you can't recreate what you had tonight
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: you know playing somebody lesser.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: Have you seen the rest of our schedule we we
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: got a long way to go man we got a
• 38:22
  Speaker 10: long way to go you know so we're gonna We
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: got some really good teams we got coming down the pipe.
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: We got some really tough environments we need to go into.
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  Speaker 10: And so the biggest thing for this game to put
• 38:33
  Speaker 10: in the bank is knowing when we get faced with adversity,
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: and we're going to in September, October, November, hopefully into
• 38:41
  Speaker 10: December and January, that we can fight back. And, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 10: this is a really big win, obviously. Hopefully it pays
• 38:50
  Speaker 10: dividends for us in December. Um, but, but we got,
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: we got a lot more meat on our bone that,
• 38:55
  Speaker 10: that we've got to, we got to chew off here
• 38:57
  Speaker 10: before we start worrying about, is this win help us
• 38:59
  Speaker 10: get into a playoff or not? You know, we, we
• 39:01
  Speaker 10: got a long way to go.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: You said there would be a three team, three loss
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: regular season team that would make the playoffs. They now
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: are in the best position to be that team.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: I think Ohio state will still make the playoffs. And
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I think it's going to be three losses. That was
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: so much more important for Texas to win that game
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: because You talked about the fourth down conversion that failed
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: in the first half, but the two in the fourth
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: quarter were the difference.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: And Arch was really, really good on those plays, by
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Was really good in the fourth quarter.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: It was so weird because– He was bad otherwise.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: He said it on the broadcast.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: It's kind of a microcosm of where Arch is from
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: where he started to where he finished. But with all
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: that said, if they lose that game, if they don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: get those fourth downs and they lose that game, let's
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: just say 23-10– I don't think any of us would
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: say Texas with that schedule, they're going to lose at
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: least four games. So now Texas has got a ton
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: of confidence. They are in a really, really good situation.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I still don't know how they came back.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: I really don't either. And I especially don't when Jeremiah
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Smith is on the other team because Texas had no
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: answer for him all night long. I mean, that guy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: I would trade Puka for him right now. I know
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: that sounds crazy.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I really, really would. I told the basement, everybody that
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: was in my basement, I was like, my Dolphins are
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: going to have the first pick. Don't even think quarterback.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Don't even think about any of these quarterbacks, especially now
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: that I've seen Arch and Dante Moore through a couple
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: of weeks. Don't think about any of these quarterbacks. Go
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Smith. Don't overthink this. That guy is an NFL receiver.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: He is. That one catch.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: You take that guy and then, you know. Get somebody's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: number two. Find your Sam Darnold.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Figure it out. Figure it out. But get Jeremiah Smith.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: That guy is an NFL receiver playing college football.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like who would you take in the NFL over
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: him right now? I mean, Jamar Chase, two grabs yesterday.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson, his first home touchdown since December of 24.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jigba, maybe. He looks as good as
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: all those guys. And, I mean, he is just– he's different.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: He is cut different.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Cut different, too, is the Big Ten this year. They've
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: been taking some victory laps. Non-conference versus power four teams. Now,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: this isn't, you know, Indiana's and the Hamptons and the
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Howards or whoever it was. It isn't Alabama and East Carolina.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: This is power four versus non-conference power four. The SEC
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: is eight and two with teams like Mississippi State and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Tennessee getting big road wins this weekend. The ACC is
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: five and six. The Big 12 is four and seven.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: The Big Ten is 3-6 in Power 4 versus Power
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: 4 non-conference teams.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: They are 3-6.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And they got two of their wins this weekend, Michigan
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: over Oklahoma and Iowa over Iowa State. They were 2-5
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in those games this weekend.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: You know, I think it is so, again, it's like
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: I can talk about my kids, but you can't. It's
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: how SEC fans are, like everybody rallying against the Big Ten.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: I had so many texts. And people so excited about
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: Texas winning this game. It was weird for me because
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: I didn't have anybody in fantasy playing in that game.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: I didn't have a side or total. I wasn't pulling
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: for anybody. I was just sitting back watching that game unfold.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: But there were so.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: Many SEC fans that wanted to see Texas win that game.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of it is the SEC, but
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of it is Ohio State, too. I think
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Ohio State is the most hated of the Big Ten teams.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: And then I would say the same, probably Michigan is
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: second in that, too. That's who Oklahoma was playing, and
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I think the opposite of that. A lot of SEC
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: fans were very disappointed in Oklahoma's performance in that game.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Because think about how bad a day that would have
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: been for the Big Ten. It was a bad day
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: for the Big Ten anyway. It was a bad day
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: for the Big Ten.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: But imagine how bad it would have been for the SEC,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: even with those numbers, because the two games everybody would
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: have looked at.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Where the early game with Michigan, you know, dominated.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: That thing could have been 17-0.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: And then if Texas loses by 20. No, you're right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: It could have been an awful day for the SEC
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: or a worse day for the Big Ten. If Oklahoma
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: can find any offense to win that game, you'd have
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: lost Michigan-Oklahoma, Minnesota getting drubbed by Mississippi State, Oregon getting
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: embarrassed by Oklahoma State. and then Ohio State blowing it
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: on the road against Texas. That would have been a
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: bad day for the Big Ten. It was bad anyway.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Could have been worse. But to your point, it could
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: have been worse for the SEC, too. If Texas gets
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: beat by three touchdowns like it looked like they were
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: headed to doing, that would have been a bad day
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: for the SEC.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: The ACC was 3-0 against the Big Ten over the weekend.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: The red bandana game, Boston College over Rutgers. You had
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest beating Purdue and Duke beating Illinois. So the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: bottom and the mids not doing too well for the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Big Ten this weekend, too.
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: I am ready to say this. The SEC is better
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: not only top to bottom. I think they're better at
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: the top this year.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: I really do. Than the Big Ten.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Than the Big Ten. I think Ohio State's still really good.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: I think Indiana. I don't know if I trust.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: Josh Huber to the level Mendoza, but he's still good.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Charlie Becker. They're just playing nobody.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: The best receiver in Indiana history, in my opinion.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Antoine Randall-Elley, put him in front of that. Now, when
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Klatt's here later on, I'm not going to bring it up.
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: Okay?
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to bring it up.
• 44:06
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Because we only have a certain amount of time with Klatt,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and that will turn into a 15-minute discussion. But he
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is notorious for that end-of-the-year weekend, right before rivalry weekend,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: that the SEC— Is cleaning up more and more every
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: year now that they got.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: Nine conference games. Largely eliminated now, yeah.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: There is a lot of games there where, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it's the SEC versus an FCS or a Sunbelt team.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Late in the year, right before rivalry game. But in
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: weeks one and week two. When you get a conference game.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Alabama was a conference game at Kentucky. I wonder how
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Klatt would feel. I mean, even if it was the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: equivalent of Alabama playing at the equivalent of Kentucky in
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten, that would be better on the big
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: noon kickoff. than Kent State and Ohio State. They play
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: these games. They just play them at the beginning. And
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: what Indiana's doing is a quarter of their season is nothing.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: We don't know what Indiana is yet. They've played nobody.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: Fox is wasting money on this, by the way.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 45:09
  Speaker 10: They are.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: That's why the Big Ten may have to change this, though. Historically,
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten has said, play all your preseason games,
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: or excuse me, all your pre-conference games at the front.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Once we get to Big Ten games, it's nothing but
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Big Ten games. And all their rivalries, except for USC
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: and Notre Dame now, which is why the Big Ten
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: is going to have to rethink this. All their rivalry
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: games are Big Ten versus Big Ten. You know, Michigan, Ohio,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Michigan State, Michigan. Because of their great history. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: So anyway, they've always done that. But now, with the
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: way the team's scheduled and as much money as Fox
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: is paying, Lance is right. Fox has gotten one good
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: game in the first three weeks. if you call that
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: a good game, I mean, that was a tough game
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: to watch at times, honestly, Oklahoma and Michigan. Too bad
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: offensive football team. I can't believe. But it's a great
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: helmet game.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Like, you know, I'm not a big Gus fan, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: with his credibility and credentials and resume, that him and
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Klatt have to sit into these coaches' meetings.
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: Like, that is your A-team for Fox.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: I know. How are they even talking to the Ball
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: State coaches? It's just, it's a Kent State.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: And right now, um, 52 and a half point favorites.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: You think, you think Klatt tells the Fox people, Hey,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: we've got the Kent state coach lined up for a
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: noon Thursday's class.
• 46:19
  Speaker 7: I'm good.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, I'll go visit Ryan day just because
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: it'll help me the rest of the year.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Ohio state fans love having a win, but is there
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: anybody that outside of an Ohio state or a Kent
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: state fan that wants to go into a game knowing
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: it is going to be a massacre?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: They've, if I was the Fox folks, I would get
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: off the fact of having to have cladding Gus in
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that big new kickoff game. And at this, at least
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: this part of the year, I would send them Friday
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: night to the Houston, Texas tech game.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't think twice about it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: Or I would have sent them overseas.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Like if we're going to do this London game, Arizona state, Kansas,
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: at least that's a fun game in the big 12.
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, I know it's a Big Ten tie-in, but, like,
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: Fox has got that.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: They do have it, yeah. Why not just throw it?
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: Hey, it's an off week. We all get it. We
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: don't want to see Kent State, Ohio State anyway.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: They're sending their pregame show over there. They're live from
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: the Union Jack Classic, which we've got a name for it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, how much are they giving up in NIL?
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: That's got to be an NIL thing.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: I can't believe you're doing it midseason. This is just
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: a terrible idea. But, Jim, I mean, to your point, Like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: week one was not good. This week felt a little
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: bit better. I mean, there were good games this week.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: It was an entertaining week.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I told you, now, one of them, I forget what
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: one of them was. One of them was South Alabama-Tulane.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: One of them was Jack State-Ohio, Jack State-Ohio. But I
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: had a big game, and I had two quad boxes.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I had nine games I was truthfully interested in prime
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: time yesterday.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: The only blowout I had on for an extended period
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: of time, well, Auburn and Southern Miss, if I remember.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: But in any other situation, I'm not watching that game.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: The only other blowout I had was Texas-Ohio State. That
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: was the one game I was like, this is the
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: only blowout I've really had to watch today. Everything else,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: I got close games in just about every window.
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: To me, the schedule was better last week than it
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: is this coming weekend. Now we might end up having
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: a great weekend.
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: No, no, no.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, we take another step back, but a lot
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: of that is because of what Jim's talking about. Ohio
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: State's playing Kent State. I mean, your Big Ten games
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: this week are just– Akron and Minnesota. You're off the.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Radar for two or three weekends a year. You're off
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the radar. Wisconsin's playing Eastern Michigan. Akron is playing, Minnesota
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: is playing Akron. Indiana is playing Western Kentucky. Iowa's playing
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. The Big Ten Network shouldn't even turn on
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: the lights this week.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just awful. Nebraska's playing North Dakota. Washington's
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: playing Eastern Washington. At least Michigan State and Notre Dame
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: are playing. I don't know how good a game it'll.
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: Be, but.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, we finally get a Big Ten game. We
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: get Purdue and UCLA playing each other late night on
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network. That'll be an entertaining football game.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest-Purdue was a fun game.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah. I mean, I hate the fact that
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: we're planting the flag at Purdue playing at UCLA. UCLA's
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: a pretty good team. They've been fun to watch, all
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: those resources and the khakis and polos. I will say this.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, Chesney's had them play well for two straight
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: games now. That was a pretty... Pretty dominant win.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: And they'll beat Purdue.
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: Purdue might play them within the two touchdowns, but they'll
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: be 3-0.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: Now, that was my upset alert, so it was 0-0.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: at the half.
• 49:20
  Speaker 12: It was.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Second half. All khakis and polos, second half. Well, I
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: thought to myself, well, got it to the half. Nobody's behind.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Nobody's ahead.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: 0-0.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Couldn't have drawn it up better.
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: I got it a little to the half, tied up BYU.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: So those second halves matter.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I think it was a 10-10 game late. And then
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: San Diego State, this is why it's so hard to gamble.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: San Diego State gets a backdoor cover with two minutes
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and 20 seconds left. 11 and a half was the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: point spread. 11, that cuts it to 11. Well, you're
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: trying to win the game. You don't know that little
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Jimmy back in Birmingham, Alabama may have a little hard rock.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need you. A little hard rock money. We
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: need you.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Inside that 11 and a half. So, obviously, you come
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: out and you kick an onside kick, right?
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: You got to at least tackle the guy at that point.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Because all Chessie's going to do is get it. He's
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: going to run one play. get it to the two-minute warning,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and then one first down, and then he's kneeling it out.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Off tackle, virtually untouched for a touchdown on the first play.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those are tough. And you're sitting there going, why
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: do I even do this?
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: There were two coaches that I cussed more, and they
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: both covered for me. But it was Dan Quinn who's
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: got to flip his hat around. He's too bad of
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: a coach to be an old man like that and
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: have his hat turned backwards the entire game. Cussed him
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: like a dog. They ended up giving the cover, and
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: then Charles Kelly at Jacksonville State.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Terrible play, Kelly. Jack State's offensive play. He's going to
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: run that program in the ground. Awful offensive play calling
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: at Ohio. And we've got to change the overtime. We
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: say this every year when we get these four overtimes,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: five overtimes, six overtimes.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, I loved it when we got there because I
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: was catching three with Jack State. Once you get to
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: that third overtime, you can't lose more than two. I
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: guess you could have a pick.
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: That would be a four-point game. That would have been
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: a tough way to lose.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: That would have been a tough way to lose. But
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I saw something there that I had not seen very often.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: And I can't imagine people were watching Jack State, Ohio,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: but I guess some of you were. At the end
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: of one of the overtimes, you had a personal foul.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: And it was still in the fulfilled overtime, right? So
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: they decided to penalize Ohio. Do you have the choice?
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Can you... do you have so ohio had the ball
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: first in the second overtime right so you get a
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: dead ball personal foul after the first overtime but i thought.
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: They tacked it on jack state when they got the ball.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: But the jack state got the ball second that's what
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: i'm saying but i thought.
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: They added the 15 onto.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: That no no the personal foul was on ohio no
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: i know that yeah yeah you're saying they took 15
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: off yeah that's what i'm saying do you have the
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: choice i guess right you got the choice i can
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: either start ohio or At the, what would be the 40?
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Because if you didn't see, it was.
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: A block kick.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: And then Jack State's picking it up, running it back,
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: and he gets horse collared.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: He gets horse collared. So it's a 15-yard dead ball.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: Or it's not necessarily dead ball, but there's no other
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: way to administer it. My question is, do you have
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: the choice? Can I make the other team start on
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: the 40, or I get to choose to start on
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: the 10? I don't know which one you would do.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Almost like a penalty where I'll take it on the kickoff.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Well, let's text our buddy Steve Shaw. I'll find out,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: because I've never seen that. We'll see if we can
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: get an answer coming up on the other side. And
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: what's even worse is if you're to the two-point conversion part,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: how does that administer there? It's one play from the
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: 17 at that point.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: That's right, and I'm definitely going to take that.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I would like to know that too, but it's just
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: a crappy way to decide the game, going to that
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: two-point conversion.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: All right, getting ready for a big week of leading
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: into more SEC games and the big one in Oxford.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: There will be a lot of talk about LSU Ole Miss.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Game day will be there and all that. I would
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just say I hope everybody keeps there's fights every weekend.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: We've got a thousand. Everybody's got a camera in their hand.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: So we see a fight from every sporting event every weekend,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: whether it's two girls that are tailgate or whether it's
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: an NFL fans in the stands.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: So there's going to be fights. But I just hope
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: we're all very reasonable in Oxford this weekend.
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: Dude, Seahawks fans were trying to throw a guy off
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: the upper set.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, I saw that. That was crazy. Yeah, you're right.
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: But it's going to be impossible, Dunaway. I mean, there
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: are going to be so many confrontations. If I was
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: an LSU fan, I would not be comfortable going there.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: I don't think I'd go either.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: LSU Ole Miss, it'll be the talk of the country
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: game days here this week. It's Kiffin back in Oxford.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: It is going to be something else. We'll continue the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: recap of week number two of college football, week one
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: of the NFL when we come back on the next
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: round platform.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Buck and Clay are next right here on Sporting State.