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The Kenny Report | 26 February · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Lone from the skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight. Anthony ALBERANIZI ran protection for
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Speaker 1: China over those live firing exercises, and it turns out
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Speaker 1: he was wrong. We got no prior warning about them.
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty. This as
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Speaker 1: Labor launches a dirt file attack on Peter Dutton's lifetime
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Speaker 1: real estate investments, an attack that just might backfire. The
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Speaker 1: battle against anti Semitism, as school children shan't Alia Akbar
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Speaker 1: outside of Sydney School demanding a staff member be returned.
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Speaker 1: Why nuclear energy is the most important economic and political
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Speaker 1: debate in this country. Dick Smith joins me, also Pauline
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Speaker 1: Hansen and the Wednesday Wrangle. I'll show you Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: making a White House visit great for some. Opening the
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Speaker 1: program last night, I said the holes were down for Labor,
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Speaker 1: but their spending was up, and that their reckless spending
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Speaker 1: and attacks on Peter Dutton gave away their desperate fears
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Speaker 1: about losing the election. Well, it's deja vous today. First
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Speaker 1: the spending. This time it's Melbourne, home to a host
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Speaker 1: of crucial seats, and it's another seven thousand million dollars
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Speaker 1: for a long discussed rail project.
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Speaker 2: Today's Prime Minister, I give this very straightforward, concrete commitment
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Speaker 2: to Victorians. Our government will partner with the Victorian government
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Speaker 2: to fund and build the rail link to Melbourne Airport.
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Speaker 2: To make this happen, Our Labor governments committing seven billion
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Speaker 2: dollars to build Melbourne Airport.
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Speaker 1: Rail up goes the spending, up goes the debt up,
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Speaker 1: goes the pressure on inflation and interest rates, and out
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Speaker 1: goes the dirt file on the opposition leader too. After
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Speaker 1: attacking Dutton's share purchases from seventeen years ago yesterday, now
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Speaker 1: Labor is raising questions about Dutton's lifetime of buying and
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Speaker 1: selling houses, including those associated with his wife's childcare businesses,
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Speaker 1: something he's often talked about working and saving from his
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Speaker 1: teenage years. He hasn't declared all of them.
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Speaker 3: He hasn't declared all of them.
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Speaker 4: Keep mentioning his name every time you do, our vote
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Speaker 4: goes up.
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Speaker 3: You're disgusting.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty grubby stuff and it might be silly too,
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Speaker 1: because it just might backfire for starters. It again shows
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Speaker 1: up Anthony Albanezi as weak because while these smears come
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Speaker 1: from Labor. He wipes his hands of them.
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Speaker 4: Parmentister, what's wrong with Dutton making money out of property?
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Speaker 3: Haven't you as well?
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Speaker 2: I make no comment about Peter Dutton's matters. That's the
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Speaker 2: matter for him.
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Speaker 1: Nothing to do with elbow apparently, and the Opposition leader
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Speaker 1: hasn't held back.
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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister's office is shopping around dirt sheets at
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Speaker 5: the moment, transactions that go back to when I was
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Speaker 5: twenty years of age. I've conducted myself with integrity at
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Speaker 5: every moment of my life, including as a police officer,
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Speaker 5: and since I've been in politics. If the Prime Minister
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Speaker 5: has some claim to make, don't get his lackey's to
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Speaker 5: push it out there, Get up and make the claim yourself.
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Speaker 5: But of course the Prime Minister weighed he's happy to
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Speaker 5: use third parties to try and shop around this sort
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Speaker 5: of detail.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good political response, but this also leads
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Speaker 1: into Dutton's life story. And if Labor wants to go there, well,
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Speaker 1: the Opposition leader is happy to help them out.
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Speaker 5: I've said my piece, and that is that I've only
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Speaker 5: ever acted with integrity. I worked hard like Joe. Actually,
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Speaker 5: I started out as a butcher's boy, many years ago,
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Speaker 5: and I've never stopped working from that day. I've been
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Speaker 5: proud of what my family and I have been able
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Speaker 5: to achieve. And I actually think the Australian public wants
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Speaker 5: somebody who knows how to manage money, knows how to
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Speaker 5: manage the economy. I've demonstrated that as Assistant Treasurer, I've
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Speaker 5: conducted myself.
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Speaker 1: With integrity at all times.
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Speaker 5: And if the Prime Minister has a claim to make,
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Speaker 5: why doesn't he get up and make it?
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Speaker 1: Because he's weak, And just to close off this episode
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Speaker 1: and underscore, underscore again why Labor might have led with
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Speaker 1: their chin, have a look at this look.
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Speaker 5: I haven't criticized the Prime Minister in relation to his
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Speaker 5: assets or in relation to his family, as far as
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Speaker 5: I'm concerned, that's off limits. And I think the Prime
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Speaker 5: Minister is a person of integrity as I am, and
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Speaker 5: he's done well.
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Speaker 1: He tells a.
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Speaker 5: Story of growing up in housing commission. He's now a
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Speaker 5: multimillionaire with property.
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Speaker 1: Good luck to him. How about that, Hey, the son
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Speaker 1: of a single mother who grew up in public housing,
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Speaker 1: who spent his whole life working for the Labor Party
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Speaker 1: and in politics, and purchased a four point three million
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Speaker 1: dollar beach house perched on the cliff tops of Coca
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Speaker 1: Kabana on the New South Wales Central coast during a
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Speaker 1: high during a housing crisis, while he's living in two
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Speaker 1: taxpayer funded mansions at Sydney's Curability and the Lodge in Canberra. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is probably not the smartest political attack that I've
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Speaker 1: ever seen Labor run. The real worry with this Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: as I keep saying, is weakness week, on National Security Week,
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Speaker 1: on Anti Semitism Week, on standing up to China. And
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Speaker 1: that's been showcased dramatically today as the Chinese Navy was
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Speaker 1: conducting those surprise live firing exercises off our coast in
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Speaker 1: the Tasman Sea, forcing passenger jets to urgently divert around
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Speaker 1: the area. Well remember late last week when the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister effectively defended the.
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Speaker 2: Chinese Well, China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert
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Speaker 2: that it would be conducting these activities in luting the
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Speaker 2: potential use of live fire. It's outside of Australia's Exclusive
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Speaker 2: economic zone. Well, this is activity that has occurred in
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Speaker 2: in waters consistent with international law. The notification has occurred.
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Speaker 1: The notification has occurred now As if this wasn't wobbly enough,
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Speaker 1: it turns out that the Prime Minister was wrong. We
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Speaker 1: weren't advised. Revelations in Senate estimates and elsewhere suggests the
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Speaker 1: only way we found out about these live firing exercises
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Speaker 1: was from radio communications picked up by a Virgin Airlines
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Speaker 1: pilot and relayed to New Zealand and Australian authorities. But
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Speaker 1: Anthony Albernizi refused to clarify the matter today.
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Speaker 2: Defense will make some more comments about this today. But
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Speaker 2: we have been conscious about the presence of Chinese ships
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Speaker 2: and the expectation that we had through the Australian Defense Force.
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Speaker 2: That's why we had monitoring between Australia and New Zealand.
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Speaker 1: Is he buck passing to someone else? Yet? Again? Is
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Speaker 1: that the Prime Minister saying he's not responsible, leaving it
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Speaker 1: to Defense to answer who on earth is running this country?
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Speaker 1: What happened here? Did the Chinese alert us or not?
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Speaker 5: I'm also concerned, I might say, to see reports it
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Speaker 5: seems conflicting between the Chief of the Defense Force and
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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister as to what is actually happening in
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Speaker 5: our waters. The Prime Minister is scared and he's not
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Speaker 5: up to his job. We know that, and we've seen
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Speaker 5: it in relation to his stance on anti Semitism or lack thereof.
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Speaker 5: But the Prime Minister needs to stand up for our
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Speaker 5: country's interests. We need a strong prime minister who can
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Speaker 5: call out the actions that aren't compatible with safety or
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Speaker 5: our nation's best interests. And I don't know what the
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Speaker 5: Prime Minister is doing at the moment, but he's ducking
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Speaker 5: and weaving and failing to answer basic questions. And I
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Speaker 5: hope that the Prime Minister can come out and give
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Speaker 5: an honest account of what the government knew and when
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Speaker 5: in relation to this noble ship that's off our coastline,
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Speaker 5: what warnings the government had.
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Speaker 1: When the Chief of the Defense Force, Admiral David Johnston
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Speaker 1: appeared before senateed Estimus this afternoon, it became clear why
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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister wanted to hand pass this issue. The
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Speaker 1: CDF confirmed Australia only heard about the live firing exercise
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Speaker 1: after the Virgin pilot picked up on radio warnings and
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Speaker 1: a full twenty eight minutes after the exercise had officially begun.
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Speaker 6: To our knowledge that there was the notification was that
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Speaker 6: call that had made from when the firing window open,
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Speaker 6: and that, in our view, is inadequate notification as well.
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Speaker 4: That's not inadequate, it's after it started.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's when the civil aircraft heard the call. We
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Speaker 6: can't be definitive on whether there was a call made
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Speaker 6: by the Chinese vessels earlier than that.
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Speaker 4: But you're now telling me that notification was not received
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Speaker 4: at least by defense by Australia until after it commenced.
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Speaker 4: That's not any notification at all, is it.
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Speaker 6: No.
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Speaker 1: Now, this is bad enough for our national security, it's
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Speaker 1: bad enough for our air safety, and it's bad enough
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Speaker 1: as a demonstration of the appalling disrespect China is prepared
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Speaker 1: to show us as a country. But how bad does
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Speaker 1: it look for our Prime minister, who, in these circumstances
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Speaker 1: was making excuses for China.
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Speaker 2: Well, China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert that
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Speaker 2: it would be conducting these activities, including the potential use
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Speaker 2: of live fire. It's outside of Australia's Exclusive economic zone. Well,
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Speaker 2: this is activity that has occurred in in waters consistent
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Speaker 2: with international law. The notification has occurred.
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Speaker 1: This is extraordinary, isn't it. Australia has been treated woefully
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Speaker 1: at best, and openly threatened. At worst. I'll speak live
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Speaker 1: with Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty shortly later tonight Australian time,
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Speaker 1: late in the morning, Southern Israel time, the Bibas family
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Speaker 1: will hold a funeral for their mother, Shiri, and a
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Speaker 1: two little boys, Arial and Kafir. The ceremony will be
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Speaker 1: lives extreamed in Israel. It will affect and torment that
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Speaker 1: whole nation and many people around the world. This is
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Speaker 1: the horror of Hamas and the October the seventh atrocities,
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Speaker 1: the death cult of Islamist extremist terrorism manifesting itself in
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Speaker 1: the deliberate abduction and murder of a mother and her
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Speaker 1: two little boys. These are the human faces, the victims
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Speaker 1: of an inhuman hatred. May they rest in peace. I
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Speaker 1: just want to go to some live pictures now that
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Speaker 1: I believe we're getting in from Israel. These are of
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Speaker 1: people parading in the streets ahead of that Bibas family funeral.
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Speaker 1: People will be marking this occasion right across the length
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Speaker 1: of breadth of Israel, not only in Southern Israel where
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Speaker 1: the actual funeral will occur, but there are some live
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Speaker 1: pictures of people now preparing for that horrible funeral service
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Speaker 1: which will be happening about eight point thirty our time
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Speaker 1: in Australian time eleven thirty in the morning Israeli time.
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Speaker 1: But I want to show you now another funeral that
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Speaker 1: was conducted yesterday in Israel. It was for Oded Livschitz,
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Speaker 1: who was also taken hostage on October seventh, twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: and his body was returned at the same time as
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Speaker 1: the Bibas family. Livshitz was a journalist for leftist publications
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Speaker 1: and an activist, including for Peace and for Palestinians. Even
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Speaker 1: in his retirement, he'd been helping the people of Gaza.
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Speaker 1: More recently, reports The Times of Israel. Livshitz and Arabic speaker,
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Speaker 1: had been actively involved for years with Road for Recovery,
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Speaker 1: an organization that helps Palestinians receive medical treatment in Israel.
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Speaker 1: According to his family, he would drive weekly to the
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Speaker 1: Erez crossing on the Gaza Strip in the border there
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Speaker 1: to pick up sick Palestinians and transport to Israeli hospitals. Yep,
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Speaker 1: that's the reality of Hamas terrorism. Despite that he was
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Speaker 1: taken hostage and killed their evil Hamas ideology, and of
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Speaker 1: course this is what they did deliberately to instigate this
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Speaker 1: horrible war. Our dead's widow, Yov Shaved, who was also
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Speaker 1: taken hostage but released within weeks, well. She shared her
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Speaker 1: husband's charity work, and she spoke at his funeral yesterday.
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Speaker 7: Ram Laham nullah ble man leman shaloon leam.
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Speaker 1: But our dead was eighty three years old when he
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Speaker 1: was taken hostage, possibly eighty four when he was killed.
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Speaker 1: May he rest in peace, and may anyone who wants
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Speaker 1: to pretend this is about Palestinian liberation or a two
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Speaker 1: state solution or legitimate resistance please do more to inform themselves.
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Speaker 1: Humas is about hatred. It's about fanatical Islamist extremism which
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Speaker 1: inspires people to eliminate Israel and Jews. If you don't
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Speaker 1: understand that reality, you have no idea what Israel and
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Speaker 1: the world are dealing with, and your ignorance is dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to Pauline Hanson, now the One Nation founder
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Speaker 1: and leader. She joins us from Queensland. Thanks for joining
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Speaker 1: us again, Pauline, I just want to go to this
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Speaker 1: issue actually of dangerous ignorance, and first up your colleague
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Speaker 1: in the Senate, that is Fatima Payman, the former Labor
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Speaker 1: senator from Western Australia now an independent and have a
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Speaker 1: look at what she has said about her former home
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Speaker 1: of Iran.
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Speaker 8: Incredible place that Iran is allowing for women to participate
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Speaker 8: in the workforce, to ensure that they have a voice
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Speaker 8: and their voices are heard, they're involved in the democratic process.
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Speaker 8: Realities that we're not privy to living here and listening
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Speaker 8: to the propaganda that we receive from very single sided
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Speaker 8: organizations with a specific agenda.
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Speaker 1: How could she be so ignorant, especially someone who came
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Speaker 1: here as a refugee Pauline, and just how dangerous are
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Speaker 1: these views?
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Speaker 9: I think she is very ignorant and what she's actually
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Speaker 9: saying here. She's came out from Afghanistan, Mansu and Chris
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Speaker 9: because I question about her citizenship and whether she should
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Speaker 9: be a member of parliament, which they just ignore and
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Speaker 9: no investigation into it at all. My understanding of Iran
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Speaker 9: is that it came under this totalitarian Islamic regime in
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Speaker 9: about nineteen seventy nine. Before then it was basically more
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Speaker 9: freedom democracy, but since being taken over by this regime,
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Speaker 9: it actually suppresses women. My understanding of it is not
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Speaker 9: what's fat payment, saying it was about in twenty twenty
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Speaker 9: two that one woman who didn't wear the he jab,
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Speaker 9: which is just so she uncovered her head. She was
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Speaker 9: taken by the police. She was loaded into the back
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Speaker 9: of the truck and she was beaten, and weusinesses say
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Speaker 9: that her injuries and reports from it were from the
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Speaker 9: beating that she received from the police. You don't see
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Speaker 9: tourists going there lining up to go to Iran. I
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Speaker 9: can't imagine Western women wanting to go there or lie
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Speaker 9: beside a pool with a bikini on. It just wouldn't happen.
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Speaker 9: Women are suppressed and when that payment is salks on
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Speaker 9: for a parliament about domestic violence and how women are treated,
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Speaker 9: all the rest of it. And yet she makes a
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Speaker 9: statement about women in Iran, I'm sorry domestic violence. Women
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Speaker 9: in Iran are controlled by the men. They cannot be
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Speaker 9: accompanied unless it's a change. But my understanding was women
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Speaker 9: cannot walk around by themselves without being covered up. They
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Speaker 9: have to be accompanied by a male usually you know
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Speaker 9: Effa's child. The child has to be of teenage years
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Speaker 9: and they lose all control over the children once the
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Speaker 9: children are actually five or six, So it's all given
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Speaker 9: control to the men, and they suppress the women, control
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Speaker 9: the women. It is not democratic for women at all.
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Speaker 9: So I don't know where she's getting this from.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, I mean, it is just you're right.
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Speaker 1: Sorry to correct me. She is from Afghanistan, her family
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Speaker 1: came out here, is refugees from Afghanistan. But what she's
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Speaker 1: saying about Iran is just so wrong and so dangerous.
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Speaker 1: Women are being arbitrarily arrested on the street and thrown
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Speaker 1: into prison if they're not wearing their hijarb properly, and
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Speaker 1: we've had them die in custody. It's just a shocking
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Speaker 1: situations for women in Iran, and to pretend otherwise is deeply,
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Speaker 1: deeply dangerous and very disappointing to hear that coming from
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Speaker 1: one of our senators. I want to go back to
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Speaker 1: domestic politics, though, very quickly, Pauline, and this spender thong
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Speaker 1: we're seeing from labor and when it comes to medicare
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Speaker 1: at least and some of the other issues. So far,
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Speaker 1: it's being matched by the Coalition. We haven't got this money,
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Speaker 1: we can't afford this. But in an election campaign, everybody's
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Speaker 1: just throwing money out the door.
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Speaker 9: It's the same elretric Chris, isn't it before every election?
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Speaker 9: Throw money here, throw money they're buying votes and all
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Speaker 9: the rest of it. At the end of the day,
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Speaker 9: future generations and this generation is going to have to
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Speaker 9: pay this back a trillion dollar in debt. That's what
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Speaker 9: we are and next year expected we will be paying
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Speaker 9: fifty billion a year just an interest loan. How many
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Speaker 9: hospitals can we build for that? At least ten hospitals?
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Speaker 9: How many schools? It's just got too ridiculous. Medicare, Chris,
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Speaker 9: we actually are defrauded of about three billion dollars a year.
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Speaker 9: I had to actually clean up the fraud. Then if
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Speaker 9: you save yourself three billion a year, then you can
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Speaker 9: actually reinvest it into giving people higher rebates through the
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Speaker 9: Medicare levey. But don't actually then throw more money at it.
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Speaker 9: Clean up the bloody mess that we're in at the moment.
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Speaker 9: And you can't keep you know, funding these things all
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Speaker 9: the time because where's money coming from. Both governments need
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Speaker 9: to pull their heads in. Get the country back on truck,
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Speaker 9: get industry manufacturing jobs going productivity, get the GDP, you
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Speaker 9: know in a position where where we can pay for
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Speaker 9: the things and pay down debt.
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Speaker 1: The amount of money wasted and raughted in medicare and
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Speaker 1: the end is extraordinary and we need better efforts here,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Thanks for joining us, Pauline, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Go do the disturbing scenes we've seen when it comes
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Speaker 1: to social cohesion in this country. This morning in Sydney,
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Speaker 1: school children were protesting outside Granville Boys High School in
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Speaker 1: Sydney demanding the return of school support officer Sheik Wisam Chakawi.
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Speaker 1: Chikari had been suspended over his social media posts criticizing
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Speaker 1: what he called selective moral outrage over the allegedly anti
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Speaker 1: Semitic video involving two Bankstown Hospital nurses earlier this month.
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Speaker 1: The school protest reportedly was organized by a group called
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Speaker 1: Teachers and School Staff for Palestine. Just a reminder that's
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Speaker 1: in the western suburbs of Sydney this morning. This protest
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Speaker 1: comes as one of the former nurses in the video,
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Speaker 1: Sarah Abdu Lebda, has been charged and bailed on three
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Speaker 1: federal charges stemming from the social media video. Twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Lebda is due to appear in court again
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Speaker 1: next month. The other former nurse in the video Ahmad
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Speaker 1: Nadir has not been charged and is believed to be
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Speaker 1: receiving medical treatment. Let me bring in Alex Rivchin from
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Speaker 1: the Executive Council of Australian Jury. Alex. A demonstration of
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Speaker 1: that kind. Children chanting alahah akbar outside of school over
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Speaker 1: an issue like this just underlines, doesn't it how tenureus
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Speaker 1: social cohesion is in this country at the moment?
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Speaker 10: Well, I think Chris, social cohesion is a fiction in
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Speaker 10: this country because of everything we've seen over the past
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Speaker 10: sixteen months. And part of that has been the concerned
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Speaker 10: attempt to indoctrinate children into a certain ideology, into a
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Speaker 10: political movement. And once again, there with the scenes that
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Speaker 10: you've shown, you've seen children deployed as a political tool
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Speaker 10: to advance an agenda. These children should be in school,
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Speaker 10: they should been lightening and opening their minds, learnings that
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Speaker 10: can form rational judgments and views of society. But instead,
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Speaker 10: again they're being fed one line, one ideology and this
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Speaker 10: is what's going to be with us for generations to come.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the trigger for this protest is a school
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Speaker 1: staff member being suspended for inappropriate posts on these issues.
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Speaker 1: Yet we're told that the protest is organized by other
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Speaker 1: school teachers and staff members. This underschools the depth of
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Speaker 1: the problem when it's the teachers leading this sort of behavior.
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Speaker 10: Well, we've seen this again from the get go. We've
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Speaker 10: seen a problem in schools of activist teachers abrogating their
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Speaker 10: duties and seeking to indoctrinate the students that they're supposed
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Speaker 10: to guide and steer towards enlightenment, but instead they're using
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Speaker 10: their children to advance a political agenda. And I think
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Speaker 10: we're in a very dangerous place when children are used
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Speaker 10: in this way. We've seen over the last months, We've
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Speaker 10: seen school strikes where children were urged to leave their
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Speaker 10: classes to protest against Israel. We've seen anti Semitic slogans
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Speaker 10: chanted by primary school children with adults cheering them along
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Speaker 10: and urging them along in this. We've got a real
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Speaker 10: problem here because we're talking about an extremist ideology, as
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Speaker 10: Mike Burgess, the head of Asia, has spoken about, and
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Speaker 10: to see children again deployed for that purpose, it's a
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Speaker 10: chilling thing to observe.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a terrible to see. I'll tell you what, though.
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Speaker 1: I want to follow up on something that Shari Markson
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Speaker 1: broke last night an exclusive story on her program last
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Speaker 1: night where she revealed a Muslim community leader, a Muslim
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Speaker 1: religious leader in Australia attended Lebanon to go to the
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Speaker 1: funeral of the Hezbalal leader Hasan Nasraala.
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Speaker 3: Have a look.
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Speaker 11: Sydney based religious leader Ahbed Almajed Mutada's pictured at Nasula's funeral.
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Speaker 11: He's on the left in a photograph he posted to
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Speaker 11: his own social media account just a day ago. Now,
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Speaker 11: we put questions to ourbed and he told us, yes,
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Speaker 11: I'm a proud Australian citizen. I flew to Lebanon to
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Speaker 11: pay my respects to our beloved and esteemed clergy.
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Speaker 1: Alex hez Bala, of course, is a listed terrorist organization,
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Speaker 1: including in Australia. How on earth can we allow people
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Speaker 1: to fly out to a ceremony like that and back
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Speaker 1: into Australia.
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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, he says he's a part Australian citizen,
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Speaker 10: but he's a proud Australian citizen who has traveled across
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Speaker 10: the world to pay homage to the former head of
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Speaker 10: a listed terror organization in our country, an organization that
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Speaker 10: has carried out terror attacks throughout the world, that smuggles
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Speaker 10: drugs to facilitate its terrorist enterprise, approxiate the Ranian regime,
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Speaker 10: and the fact that people are doing this and then
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Speaker 10: coming back and perhaps who knows who they're mixing with
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Speaker 10: over there, who knows how deeper their ideology will become entrenched,
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Speaker 10: what sort of contacts they're making opposed the threat to
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Speaker 10: our national security. But again, Chris, none of this is
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Speaker 10: a surprise because we've seen for sixteen months people walking
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Speaker 10: in the streets of our major cities holding aloft the
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Speaker 10: portraits of Hassan Israela. We've seen mosques in Sydney holding
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Speaker 10: ceremonies to ho In Israela and other fallen has Bla operatives.
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Speaker 10: So we know that we have this problem in our society.
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Speaker 10: We know there are people amongst us who are sympathetic
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Speaker 10: to this ideology, who view has Billah and Israela as
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Speaker 10: being heroes to be emulated. And that is a very
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Speaker 10: dangerous and chilling thing that we're dealing with.
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Speaker 1: It's dangerous, it's chilling, and it's getting worse. It's less
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Speaker 1: than a week now since the anti Semitism summit that
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Speaker 1: you and Sharry marksen Code shared and was broadcast here
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Speaker 1: on Sky News. There was a lot of frustration at
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Speaker 1: that event about a lack of government action, especially from
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Speaker 1: the federal government. Have a look at what Anthony Alberizi
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Speaker 1: said today when he was asked at a press conference
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Speaker 1: whether he was satisfied with these people being able to
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Speaker 1: fly out of Australia to attend is terrorist leader's funeral
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Speaker 1: and then come back here.
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Speaker 2: I share does this job and scrutinize his intelligence issues
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Speaker 2: on behalf of Australia.
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Speaker 1: He's got nothing to say. I'll expect to hand pass
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Speaker 1: it to the intelligence agencies. Is that good enough?
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Speaker 10: Well, look, it's not when we're dealing with a persistent
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Speaker 10: terrorist threat in this country, articulated by the head of
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Speaker 10: ASIO as being the number one risk to our national security,
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Speaker 10: this ideology of anti Semitism emanating particularly from the Islamic
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Speaker 10: world at the moment, it's not good enough. But you know,
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Speaker 10: I do have faith in our police, in our AFP,
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Speaker 10: in ASIO, and in a way by adding themselves as
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Speaker 10: being open supporters of has blindness Ralla, perhaps they're making
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Speaker 10: the job of ASIO easier. But we need to ensure
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Speaker 10: that these people are very carefully vetted and monitored upon
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Speaker 10: their return, but that's realistically not easy to do because
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Speaker 10: they will reintegrate into Australian society. There are limited resources
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Speaker 10: in terms of monitoring and surveilling. These people have to
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Speaker 10: be concerned about the ideology that they already have but
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Speaker 10: that are deepening by associating with the sort of people
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Speaker 10: they'll be meeting at the funeral of a terrorist leader abroad.
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Speaker 10: So there's a very real threat here and I think
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Speaker 10: it needs to be properly articulated by the government how
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Speaker 10: they intend to keep austrain safe.
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Speaker 1: Well articulated, Alex. I appreciate you joining us again, Alex Richard.
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Speaker 1: They're from the Executive Council of Australian Jury. We didn't
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Speaker 1: need to get to a break. After the break, we're
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Speaker 1: going to catch up with Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty.
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Speaker 1: Just who knew what and when and why about these
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Speaker 1: Chinese live fire exercises. Let's go straight to Canberra now
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Speaker 1: and catch up with Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty live.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Andrew.
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Speaker 4: Good to be with you, Chris.
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Speaker 1: We now know clearly that Australia was not notified of
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Speaker 1: the live firing exercises conducted by China in the Tasman
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Speaker 1: Sea until after that begun, and only because a Virgin
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Speaker 1: Airlines pilot had picked up on the warnings when flying
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Speaker 1: over the area. What's your reaction to this reality.
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Speaker 4: There's a couple of things going on here.
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Speaker 12: Number one, the Prime Minister and the Deputy Prime Minister,
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Speaker 12: Richard Miles, last week both said that we had been notified,
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Speaker 12: which is false. So they're either misleading the public or
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Speaker 12: they're not across their breath. But either way, it's a
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Speaker 12: very bad look for the Prime Minister who's meant to
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Speaker 12: be leading this country and his primary job is to
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Speaker 12: keep us safe.
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Speaker 4: So that's the first thing.
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Speaker 12: But number two, it also reveals a significant surveillance gap
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Speaker 12: and a commander control gap within the ADF the fact
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Speaker 12: that we didn't detect this, that it was passed on
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Speaker 12: by Virgin Airlines through Air Services Australia and then into Defense.
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Speaker 12: So there's some worrying things happening here. But the thing
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Speaker 12: I want to underline the most is that the Prime
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Speaker 12: Minister has shown very weak leadership. He's been at pains
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Speaker 12: to explain this behavior from the Chinese warships away is
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Speaker 12: within international law, which is completely missing the point. This
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Speaker 12: is a signal from the Chinese military that they have
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Speaker 12: a bluewater navy and they're prepared to flex their muscles
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Speaker 12: in our region. This is gunboat diplomacy.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is extraordinary. This is the key point. I
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Speaker 1: was talking about this yesterday and the day before, just
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Speaker 1: how weak Anthony our Benezi had been. Why was it
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Speaker 1: he outraged about this? Instead he was explaining away the
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Speaker 1: Chinese action. Have a look again.
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Speaker 2: Well, China issued, in accordance with practice, an alert that
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Speaker 2: it would be conducting these activities, including the potential use.
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Speaker 1: Of live fire.
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Speaker 2: It's outside of Australia's Exclusive Economic zone. Well, this is
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Speaker 2: activity that has occurred in m Waters consistent with international law.
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Speaker 2: The notification has occurred there.
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Speaker 1: He was last Friday. Two points about that, Andrew Hasey
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Speaker 1: is one, he's saying exactly what China would want him
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Speaker 1: to say, not what perhaps Australian voters would want him
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Speaker 1: to say. And secondly, he's flat out wrong. There was
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Speaker 1: no prior warning.
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Speaker 12: He's totally wrong, he's not across his brief or he's
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Speaker 12: misleading the Australian public. And number two, he should be
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Speaker 12: standing up for the national interest. He should be insisting
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Speaker 12: on mutual respect. Instead, it looks like he's going for
30:27
Speaker 12: stability through weakness rather than stability through strength. And let's
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Speaker 12: not forget that. Anthony Albanez he criticized Scott Morrison as
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister for the relationship with China back in twenty
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Speaker 12: one twenty two.
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Speaker 4: He claims to have fixed it.
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Speaker 12: But instead we've gone from wolf warrior diplomacy under the
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Speaker 12: Coalition government where the Chinese Ministry for Foreign Affairs put
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Speaker 12: out mean tweets, to gunboate diplomacy under Anthony Albanesi.
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Speaker 4: What is missus a very very worrying signal.
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Speaker 1: What is China playing at here? At the very least,
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Speaker 1: it's shown total dis respect towards a nation that supposed
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Speaker 1: to be friendly with. But are they threatening us?
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Speaker 12: China is undergoing the biggest peacetime military build up since
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Speaker 12: nineteen forty five. They've built a bluewater navy and they
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Speaker 12: are now projecting it through the globe. They've sent it
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Speaker 12: all the way down under through Philippine Waters, through the
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Speaker 12: Coral Sea, down pass Sydney, and they've done two live
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Speaker 12: fire exercises disrupting our commercial flight parts. If we'd done
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Speaker 12: that in the South China sea, or if we'd done
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Speaker 12: that near to China and disrupted their commercial flight paths,
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Speaker 12: they'd be held to pay for us. And so the
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Speaker 12: fact that the Prime Minister hasn't called this out is
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Speaker 12: completely keeping with the pattern of behavior he's shown over
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Speaker 12: the last two years, which is weak leadership. We've had
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Speaker 12: the ADF personnel who serve us in the Air Force
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Speaker 12: and the Navy harassed effectively by the Chinese military. Whether
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Speaker 12: it's the Paight Poseidon which had chaff fired at it
31:54
Speaker 12: by a Chinese fighter, or our navy divers who had
31:56
Speaker 12: a Chinese destroyer use it sonar to pulse them. He's
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Speaker 12: never stood up for them. He's never raised this politically,
32:03
Speaker 12: and so our criticism of Anthony Albineasy is political. He's
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Speaker 12: not standing up for our country and he's showing weak
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Speaker 12: political leadership when he should be insisting on mutual respect
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Speaker 12: from the Chinese government.
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Speaker 1: It's a deep worry and it underscores why we need
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Speaker 1: to modernize and expand our defense forces, improve our defense forces.
32:21
Speaker 1: The UK Prime Minister Kirs Starmer has now pledged a
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Speaker 1: massive defense spending and he's going to boost He's going
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Speaker 1: to increase spending by two and a half percent of GDP.
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Speaker 1: This is seen there something that's urged along by Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: Is this what Australia needs to do? Does Trump and
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Speaker 1: the White House mean that we're going to have to
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Speaker 1: lift our game in order to carry our weight as
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Speaker 1: a key ally.
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Speaker 12: I think the message from President Trump is very clear.
32:47
Speaker 12: You've got to stand on your own two feet and
32:49
Speaker 12: you've got to You've got to lift your own weight.
32:52
Speaker 12: The US isn't going to do security deals with other
32:56
Speaker 12: countries where they underwrite their security. They're going to see
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Speaker 12: some evidence of investment from the countries who are meant
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Speaker 12: to be allies and partners. And UK's got the message.
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Speaker 12: Kids Starmer is going to two point five percent next
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Speaker 12: year and he's going out to up to three percent
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Speaker 12: by the end of the decade. Today, in estimates, defense
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Speaker 12: officials confirm that we're not even going to hit our
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Speaker 12: two point four percent GDP spend by the end of
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Speaker 12: this decade. Now Richard Miles committed to that last year,
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Speaker 12: we're only going to hit two point three to three
33:25
Speaker 12: percent by the end of the decade. I think the
33:27
Speaker 12: message is very clear, we need to invest in our
33:29
Speaker 12: defense force. But importantly, Chris we need to invest in
33:32
Speaker 12: our industrial base because we need to be able to
33:34
Speaker 12: make things. We need to be able to be self
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Speaker 12: sufficient in a time of crisis or war, and the
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Speaker 12: de industrialization of Australia over the last thirty years has
33:43
Speaker 12: left us very vulnerable and weak. That brings me tes
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Speaker 12: around the world. Sorry, that brings me to industrializing.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on this quickly
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Speaker 13: because we're nearly out of time. But you know, national
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Speaker 13: security is intrinsically linked then to energy security, isn't it.
33:57
Speaker 13: We can't actually protect ourselves and have that industrial base
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Speaker 13: unless we have reliable and plentiful energy, and we seem
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Speaker 13: to be undermining ourselves.
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Speaker 1: On that front exactly right.
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Speaker 12: So the Labour government is rushing towards a target of
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Speaker 12: eighty three percent renewables by twenty thirty. That's just insane
34:15
Speaker 12: because most of those renewables will be made in China.
34:19
Speaker 12: The wind and solar will be made in China. This
34:21
Speaker 12: is at the same time they're conducting gunboat diplomacy off
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Speaker 12: our shores, So we will become very dependent, very reliable
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Speaker 12: on China and very vulnerable to coercion. The only way
34:31
Speaker 12: we're going to reindustrialize. This country is investing in reliable
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Speaker 12: based load power, which will come primarily through gas, which
34:37
Speaker 12: we have an abundance of. We are the world's leading
34:40
Speaker 12: exporter of LNG. We send it to everyone else along
34:43
Speaker 12: with our coal, but we deny it to our own
34:45
Speaker 12: Australian families and businesses, and we're denying us the ability
34:50
Speaker 12: to reindustrialize, which is really important.
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Speaker 3: Sure is.
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us, Andrew, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Hasty, the other Shadow Defense minister, joining us alive
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Speaker 1: from camera after the break, I'm going to stay on energy.
35:02
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about why it's the most important
35:04
Speaker 1: economic and political debate in this country as we go
35:07
Speaker 1: into an election campaign. Dick Smith will join me. Businessman,
35:15
Speaker 1: entrepreneur and environmentalist Dick Smith as issued a challenge to
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Speaker 1: Adam Bant, taking out a series of newspaper ads calling
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Speaker 1: on the Greens leader to follow the lead set by
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Speaker 1: Finland's Green Party and endorse nuclear power.
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Speaker 4: Have a look nuclear poorr.
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Speaker 14: It isn't necessary tooling building sustainable, secure energy economy and
35:37
Speaker 14: I think a finished case example also shows that nuclear
35:40
Speaker 14: parent's estainable renewables are a feasible economic and effective mix.
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Speaker 1: But not too many people in Australia expect sense from
35:48
Speaker 1: our Greens and Adam Bant have a listened to this.
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Speaker 15: Nuclear is not safe, Coal and gas are not safe.
35:56
Speaker 15: Only clean energy is safe. Dutton's scheme is a plan
36:02
Speaker 15: to lift climate pollution and put a radioactive risk over
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Speaker 15: everyone in this country.
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Speaker 1: Please to say Dick Smith joins me again in the studio.
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Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Will come to Adam Bant
36:16
Speaker 1: in a moment. But first up the significance of Finland,
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Speaker 1: the Greens there who want to save the planet saying
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Speaker 1: that nuclear is the way.
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Speaker 6: To do it.
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Speaker 3: It's the first green party in the world. It's so
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Speaker 3: obvious now. Some of my lefty friends have said, oh, Dick,
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Speaker 3: Finland has to go nuclear because it doesn't have as
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Speaker 3: much sun as Australia in fact, nor for the Arctic Circle.
36:37
Speaker 3: In Finland and I've been there in summer time there's
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Speaker 3: twenty four hour sunlight. But the problem they have there
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Speaker 3: is storage. It's too expensive, the same as everywhere in
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Speaker 3: the world. The renewables are cheap when the sun's out
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Speaker 3: and when the wind is blowing, but the storage is
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Speaker 3: the problem. That's what makes it completely unaffordable.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, storage is the real key, the reason that intermittent
36:58
Speaker 1: renewables are a problem. You're taking out newspaper articles though,
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Speaker 1: to get this message across because you fear that something
37:06
Speaker 1: like this in Finland has been around for a while
37:08
Speaker 1: everyone ignores it. Are you frustrated that some of these
37:11
Speaker 1: facts don't seem to make the public DeMay? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Lookid think if anyone was going to be supporting nuclear
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Speaker 3: you think it would be the Greens. All around the world,
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Speaker 3: you think the Greens would be the first people to
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Speaker 3: support it. They're opposed to it except for one party. Now,
37:23
Speaker 3: maybe this is the start. I'd like to see the
37:26
Speaker 3: Australian Greens embrace it because it's the only way we
37:29
Speaker 3: can get to low levels of putting carbon into the
37:31
Speaker 3: atmosphere but still have an economy.
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Speaker 1: Well, this brings us to Adam band that sort of
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Speaker 1: ideological response, that fear campaign that everything stinks except renewables,
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Speaker 1: and no recognition that renewables don't work, and even if
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Speaker 1: they were to work to some extent, they rely on
37:47
Speaker 1: extraordinary amounts of batteries which actually know are expensive and
37:52
Speaker 1: dirty to make and dispose of.
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Speaker 3: And let me tell you, camera is just putting in
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Speaker 3: what they call a big battery. It's not that big,
37:57
Speaker 3: it's big in price. Four hundred million dollars. Now I
38:00
Speaker 3: worked out it's going to run Camber. It has the
38:02
Speaker 3: power to run Canberra wait for it for forty minutes.
38:06
Speaker 3: So who's going to pay for that? Four hundred million
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Speaker 3: dollars for forty minutes of power? That's all going to
38:11
Speaker 3: go onto the electrical bills in South Australia. The charge there,
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Speaker 3: pe killa, what ours about fifty cents? It's double what
38:18
Speaker 3: we pay in Sydney. But South Australia has, of course
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Speaker 3: the highest level of renewables. Why is the price so
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Speaker 3: high because the cost of batteries is so high.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The thing is, you would think the Greens would
38:29
Speaker 1: be the first to move here, and it would be
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Speaker 1: a game changer if they did, because they're the ones
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Speaker 1: who say this is a climate emergency, we must do it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the reason people like the Coalition and myself
38:40
Speaker 1: go to nuclear is because you just accept that people
38:45
Speaker 1: want rid of fossil fuels, and because fossil fuels are
38:48
Speaker 1: the obvious and cheapest, cheapest and most abundant source. Now,
38:51
Speaker 1: but if you're going to have to phase them all out,
38:53
Speaker 1: then you should go to nuclear. It's the obvious, the
38:56
Speaker 1: obvious resort. But if you really think it's an emergency
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Speaker 1: and we have to do this quickly and permanently, there's
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Speaker 1: nothing goes close to nuclear.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing And to me it'll be interesting to see
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Speaker 3: what the green parties around the world do. Now that
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Speaker 3: one party I'll read this to you. In a historic shift,
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Speaker 3: Finland's Green Party voted overwhelmingly to adopt a full pro
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Speaker 3: nuclear stance at its national meeting. Now first in the world,
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Speaker 3: first green party in the world. Surely, let's hope it's
39:25
Speaker 3: a start of some common sense being used.
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Speaker 1: How big a role do you think this will play
39:29
Speaker 1: in the Australian election result? Energy in general and of
39:33
Speaker 1: course importantly the nuclear aspects.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's the main difference between the two parties, and
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Speaker 3: I have no doubt if we go down this role
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Speaker 3: of ninety eight percent. I'm pro renewables as you know, yes,
39:43
Speaker 3: but the Labor Party plan to go ninety eight percent.
39:45
Speaker 3: Renewables will be unbelievably expensive. People won't be able to
39:49
Speaker 3: afford their power, small businesses won't be able to afford
39:52
Speaker 3: to operate, will lose business. So that's the reason I
39:56
Speaker 3: agree with the Liberal Party's idea that if we go
39:59
Speaker 3: in nuclear we can actually save money. And I think
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Speaker 3: that's incredibly important.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Greens. Of course you may focus is
40:05
Speaker 1: on the Greens because of what's happened in Finland, But
40:07
Speaker 1: what about the tills. They claim to be pragmatic and
40:09
Speaker 1: economically sensible. Surely they would be even more likely to
40:12
Speaker 1: accept nuclear. Look.
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Speaker 3: I talked to Simon Holmes the Court about this and
40:16
Speaker 3: he's actually he's not against nuclear, but he says as
40:18
Speaker 3: so says, he says its not necessarily frustrating. He think
40:21
Speaker 3: it's important for all the other countries. Supports Finland Green
40:24
Speaker 3: Party supporting nuclear. He supports that because he thinks it's
40:28
Speaker 3: necessary there. But he says Dick renewables are cheaper here
40:31
Speaker 3: now it's because he has never added the correct price
40:34
Speaker 3: of the batteries, put the batteries in or wait for it.
40:37
Speaker 3: They talk about pump storage, yes, but if you have
40:39
Speaker 3: a drought, the pump storage doesn't work, like what happened
40:42
Speaker 3: in Tasmania where they had to ship all these diesel
40:45
Speaker 3: generators for the Millennium drought because their pump stories stopped working,
40:49
Speaker 3: So batteries are the problem. The only answer if we
40:52
Speaker 3: want to go low carbon is nuclear and we should
40:54
Speaker 3: make that decision. We should get Simon Holmes Records, one
40:57
Speaker 3: of the major supporters.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Dick, I appreciate it. Dick Smith. There,
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Speaker 1: we're going to get to a break. On the other
41:03
Speaker 1: side of the Wednesday Wrangle, we'll have to talk about
41:05
Speaker 1: plenty of things, including this Dirney tricks campaign being leveled
41:08
Speaker 1: at Peter Dutton and his real estate investments. Okay, it's Wednesday,
41:16
Speaker 1: let's wrangle with Liz Storer. Let's go co host of
41:19
Speaker 1: the Late Debate with me on set and author, broadcaster
41:22
Speaker 1: and general men about Melbourne. Justin Smith joins us from
41:25
Speaker 1: that great city as well. How about this, Hey, we've
41:27
Speaker 1: got the file being unloaded on Peter Dutton. It's kind
41:30
Speaker 1: of predictable. This is basically how they got rid of
41:33
Speaker 1: Scomo with personal attacks, and they're struggling against Dutton the
41:39
Speaker 1: trailing in the polls, so they just go on the man.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's an election year.
41:43
Speaker 3: This is par for the course.
41:45
Speaker 16: Horses for courses that lives would be doing exactly the
41:49
Speaker 16: same thing if the shoe were on the other foot,
41:51
Speaker 16: this is what the parties do, and hey, if you've
41:53
Speaker 16: got it, you've got it.
41:55
Speaker 1: They know that they can ride on.
41:56
Speaker 16: The back and this is actually a sad fact about
41:59
Speaker 16: Ozzie's in our tall Pobby syndrome. They can ride on
42:02
Speaker 16: the fact that there will be people who are jealous
42:06
Speaker 16: and despised Dutton for having been so successful with such
42:10
Speaker 16: a property portfolio, even though he's like, hey, I'm well
42:13
Speaker 16: my first one in high school, Like, give me a break.
42:15
Speaker 16: We started young and we've reached the benefits. That is
42:18
Speaker 16: something that should be celebrated. That is something that's just like, oh,
42:22
Speaker 16: good for you, mate, you got in while the going
42:24
Speaker 16: was good. But they know that they can rely on
42:26
Speaker 16: a certain percentage of the population to be like, well
42:29
Speaker 16: this stinks. But what actually does stink? I think are
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Speaker 16: those banking shares that he purchased previously, no no share
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Speaker 16: trading whatsoever, hadn't purchased any shares and then the day
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Speaker 16: before the government battle.
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Speaker 1: That's rubbish, that's rubbish. I was around then. There were
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Speaker 1: banking guarantees in support for the banks being made every
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Speaker 1: month at that time, and that was all for.
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Speaker 16: It seems miraculous that is that is the day decided
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Speaker 16: to wait.
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Speaker 1: The first I've got to give Justin ag. I've got
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Speaker 1: to give Justin Ago. But the fact is banking guarantees
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Speaker 1: came in months earlier and kept being upgraded all the
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Speaker 1: way through that period. Justin This has got a backfire
43:13
Speaker 1: on labor, isn't it, Because it also just it brings
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Speaker 1: people straight back surely to Copa Combata and the beach
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Speaker 1: house on the cliff and it's horses for courses.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I was enjoying that little tussle and you didn't
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Speaker 17: have to stop it on my account mate. And I
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Speaker 17: actually agree with I actually agree wholeheartedly with Liz.
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Speaker 1: Aren't we sort of blowing this, blowing this out.
43:36
Speaker 17: Of profaction here? This is a little bit all part
43:39
Speaker 17: of the rough and tumble of what you do in
43:43
Speaker 17: an election campaign. And let's not forget the office that
43:46
Speaker 17: Peter Dutton is going for here. He wants to become
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Speaker 17: prime minister. Name me a prime minister that we didn't
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Speaker 17: test out and ask these questions of and try and
43:55
Speaker 17: dig away. And yes, it is actually the job as look,
43:59
Speaker 17: let's call this an election campaign. We're in one right now.
44:02
Speaker 17: It's the job of the Labor Party to go after
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Speaker 17: the Liberal Party. Yeah, exactly the other way. Isn't that
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Speaker 17: what we want? Isn't that what we want them to do?
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Speaker 8: Well?
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Speaker 1: No, not with a dirt file. I've got to stack
44:12
Speaker 1: it up, and it is a dirt file. And I'll
44:15
Speaker 1: name you one, and I'll name you one. I'll name
44:17
Speaker 1: you one. I'll let me think, let me think back
44:19
Speaker 1: to a recent leader who didn't have his life scrutinized. Oh,
44:23
Speaker 1: Bill Shorten, there was that far back, like one Labor
44:25
Speaker 1: leader back. Let's go to Matt Keane, a former Liberal politician,
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Speaker 1: the former New South Wales Liberal Treasurer and Energy minister.
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Speaker 1: Climate evangelist, got a good job from the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: He's now worried that he might get sacked if Peter
44:41
Speaker 1: Dutton wins the prime ministership. Says, I'm not going to
44:44
Speaker 1: be bullied or silence for standing up for the science
44:47
Speaker 1: and the evidence by Ted O'Brien, the opposition spokesperson, or
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Speaker 1: anyone else. Nor will the reality of climate change be
44:53
Speaker 1: bullied or silenced by political pressure. This guy is a
44:57
Speaker 1: right to offer. If they win election, they should sack
45:00
Speaker 1: him the next day.
45:01
Speaker 16: Surely I think they're more likely to just completely ignore
45:04
Speaker 16: the guy. I mean, this guy was always a turncoade. Obviously,
45:08
Speaker 16: check out his new position here. He's on a very
45:11
Speaker 16: good wicket there in terms of pay.
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Speaker 3: The pay that he's in.
45:16
Speaker 16: He doesn't want back in the Parliament. He always wanted
45:19
Speaker 16: the power. This was always his passion project. I think
45:22
Speaker 16: they're might more likely just to completely ignore the guy.
45:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves to talk about the science. This is
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Speaker 1: a guy who's pretending his decisions climate justin he's going
45:33
Speaker 1: to change the climate. There's no science in that.
45:37
Speaker 17: Oh goodness, be somebody talking about science that's involved in
45:41
Speaker 17: climate change.
45:41
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell will we do in this.
45:43
Speaker 17: Worldes of course he's going to be worried about being sacked.
45:46
Speaker 17: To be a stack of people that be worried, particularly
45:48
Speaker 17: in this area in climate change, that'd be a stack
45:52
Speaker 17: of people that would be worried about Peter Dutton getting
45:54
Speaker 17: in that job that they would get the sack. I
45:56
Speaker 17: think he sort of put his cards on the table
45:57
Speaker 17: how he feels about these things. I think that's yeah,
46:01
Speaker 17: it's kind of fair.
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Speaker 1: Look, just in case he's watching, I just like to
46:05
Speaker 1: say to Matt Kean, I know a bit about science.
46:08
Speaker 1: I've read a lot about the science, and you can
46:10
Speaker 1: put your little head to sleep at night knowing that
46:12
Speaker 1: whether you're sacked or not, it won't change the climate. Mate,
46:16
Speaker 1: it won't change the climate. Let me go on to
46:19
Speaker 1: somebody else who's been saying silly things. This is a
46:21
Speaker 1: radio host on Triple M. He was talking about the
46:25
Speaker 1: Matilda's soccer team, and have a listen to what he
46:28
Speaker 1: had to say.
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Speaker 4: You know what, they remind me of Year ten girls.
46:32
Speaker 1: Now, I'm sorry to undermine the whole sport, but that's
46:34
Speaker 1: what I think of it.
46:35
Speaker 17: So you can stick it up the Asian Cup.
46:39
Speaker 1: I'd rather hammer and nail through the head of my
46:41
Speaker 1: watch that.
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Speaker 3: Got any men's sport.
46:46
Speaker 1: Now, apparently he wasn't on air this morning, justin everyone
46:49
Speaker 1: upset that he's demeaning women's sport. Well, if people want
46:53
Speaker 1: to demean women's sport, let them go ahead. I think
46:55
Speaker 1: it's pretty silly because hey, presto, men faster, stronger, taller
46:59
Speaker 1: than women. It's hardly a breakthrough. So if you want
47:02
Speaker 1: a sort of demean women's sport. But he was just
47:04
Speaker 1: so crass and crude about it. Is that what people
47:06
Speaker 1: listen to over breckah.
47:09
Speaker 17: Well, Look, I let me paraphrase Marty Schergold here and
47:13
Speaker 17: say I'd rather hammer a nail through mine rather than
47:17
Speaker 17: listen to him on the radio. To be frank. You know,
47:22
Speaker 17: the funny thing is, when he did the apology today,
47:24
Speaker 17: he pointed out that it was comedy. I think there's
47:27
Speaker 17: a bit of a rule in comedy if you've got
47:29
Speaker 17: to point out that it's funny, he's probably not very funny.
47:33
Speaker 17: But women sport is still in its infancy as far
47:38
Speaker 17: as popularity goes, and trying to get the sponsorship dollar.
47:41
Speaker 17: They don't need the help of these kind of gags.
47:46
Speaker 17: I think they are up against enough as it is,
47:48
Speaker 17: and to be poked fun of like that, I think
47:50
Speaker 17: most people are up for fair game. But look, the
47:52
Speaker 17: main thing is I'm offended as a radio host because
47:55
Speaker 17: it's just bloody lame.
47:56
Speaker 1: It's pretty horrible stuff. Yeah, it was not your cup
47:59
Speaker 1: of tea.
47:59
Speaker 16: You just say so, or if you can't say something nice,
48:02
Speaker 16: say nothing at all. This struck me as very culor something,
48:05
Speaker 16: remember that very colored that you've got to get insulting
48:10
Speaker 16: to try and make it kind of pithy. If anything,
48:13
Speaker 16: maybe he was trying.
48:14
Speaker 1: To make a headline but gosh, it's really listen. This
48:18
Speaker 1: just convinces me of why I listened to Radio National
48:21
Speaker 1: in the morning, where I just get infuriated by the leftism,
48:24
Speaker 1: rather than with all this sort of crashness and the
48:28
Speaker 1: shocking stuff. What have we got time for? We've got
48:30
Speaker 1: time very quickly to show you what they're doing in Wisconsin.
48:33
Speaker 1: I thought you'd be particularly interested in this list because
48:35
Speaker 1: this is a democratic government in the Wisconsin and they're
48:38
Speaker 1: changing a lot of their words. They think the word
48:41
Speaker 1: mother should be changed to inseminated person. The terms of
48:46
Speaker 1: crafts mean that disgusting?
48:49
Speaker 16: Is that utterly vile thought Trump was putting an end
48:53
Speaker 16: to all this beautiful, wholesome thing in the entire world,
48:56
Speaker 16: and you want to take that word and turn it
48:58
Speaker 16: into in semite person. It is utterly disgusting. I hope
49:02
Speaker 16: it's unsuccessful, and given the words that they've chosen, I'm
49:06
Speaker 16: sure even the left will be lost.
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Speaker 13: On that one.
49:08
Speaker 1: Just before I let you go, I got to show
49:10
Speaker 1: you this a bit of Donald Trump. I think we
49:11
Speaker 1: just wrote pictures or grab here, ah, just pictures. So
49:15
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, there was the first tour since he's been
49:18
Speaker 1: president of the White House. What did Donald Do. He
49:21
Speaker 1: wandered down and introduced himself to the crowd. Not only
49:24
Speaker 1: did they get to see the White House, they got
49:26
Speaker 1: to meet the Commander in Chief, which was fantastic when
49:29
Speaker 1: he said.
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Speaker 17: Laving these fluffy, fluffy little clips you're going to be
49:34
Speaker 17: digging up over the next four.
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Speaker 1: Well right out of time. Stop wrangling. See you next week.
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Speaker 1: Here's Peter Gredlin