Latest / Creepy Horror Stories / The Virgin, The Wife, and Four Bullet Holes
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- 0:03Speaker 1: There is a version of this story where everything makes sense.
- 0:07Speaker 1: A man finds love late in life, marries, and starts over.
- 0:12Speaker 1: That version ends at a wedding reception with champagne and photographs.
- 0:17Speaker 1: This version ends on a street corner in East Los
- 0:20Speaker 1: Angeles with four bullet holes and an engine still running.
- 0:25Speaker 1: This case stayed with me long after I finished reading it,
- 0:30Speaker 1: not because of the violence. because of how completely a
- 0:34Speaker 1: person can be seen and still not be seen at all.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Bruce Cleland was 42 years old when he walked up
- 0:41Speaker 1: to a spice vendor at a farmer's market in 1995.
- 0:45Speaker 1: He had never been on a date, not one. 42
- 0:49Speaker 1: years old, raised in South Pasadena by a stable, comfortable family.
- 0:55Speaker 1: A man who had scored perfectly on the math section
- 0:58Speaker 1: of the SAT and had hasted his college board exams,
- 1:03Speaker 1: in physics and chemistry. The people who knew him described
- 1:07Speaker 1: him in one consistent cluster of words, loyal, honest, reliable.
- 1:13Speaker 1: A man who showed up when he said he would,
- 1:16Speaker 1: who kept his word, who had never given anyone a
- 1:19Speaker 1: reason to distrust him. And somehow with all of that,
- 1:22Speaker 1: he had arrived at middle age without a single romantic relationship,
- 1:26Speaker 1: not a girlfriend, not a first date. That detail is
- 1:31Speaker 1: not just a fact about Bruce. It is the architecture
- 1:34Speaker 1: of everything that followed. The woman behind the spice table
- 1:39Speaker 1: was named Rebecca Salstato. She was 28. She had grown
- 1:45Speaker 1: up in East Los Angeles in conditions that were the
- 1:49Speaker 1: opposite of Bruce's childhood. In almost every measurable way, her
- 1:54Speaker 1: father was absent. Her mother, by the accounts of people
- 1:57Speaker 1: who knew the family, was distant and abusive. She had
- 2:00Speaker 1: three sisters and a son named Salvador, whose own father
- 2:05Speaker 1: had walked away four years earlier. She was selling herbs
- 2:09Speaker 1: and spices at a farmer's market because that was the
- 2:12Speaker 1: work available to her, and she was, by all accounts, striking.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Warm when she chose to be. Capable of making someone
- 2:21Speaker 1: feel like the only person in the room. Bruce had
- 2:25Speaker 1: no experience reading what that kind of warmth might cost.
- 2:28Speaker 1: The rational explanation for what happened next is simple. A
- 2:32Speaker 1: lonely man met a charming woman, fell hard, and moved
- 2:36Speaker 1: too fast. That explanation is true as far as it goes.
- 2:40Speaker 1: But it stops working somewhere around the moment Bruce's friend
- 2:43Speaker 1: Bertha saw Rebecca introduce him, not in person, on paper.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Rebecca had shown Bertha Bruce's credit report before Bertha had
- 2:52Speaker 1: ever met him, face to face. Not a photograph. Not
- 2:56Speaker 1: a description. A credit report. That detail sits quietly in
- 3:00Speaker 1: the background of the whole story. It is easy to
- 3:03Speaker 1: file under ambition and move on. But it means that
- 3:06Speaker 1: before Bruce ever walked through a door that mattered to Rebecca,
- 3:10Speaker 1: she already knew exactly what he was worth. Bruce bought
- 3:13Speaker 1: Rebecca a house, not an apartment, not a rental arrangement.
- 3:18Speaker 1: A house on a hill, the kind with a view,
- 3:21Speaker 1: the kind with enough room for Rebecca and Salvador to
- 3:25Speaker 1: have a life that looked nothing like the one Rebecca
- 3:29Speaker 1: had grown up in. Bruce kept his own place a
- 3:32Speaker 1: condominium near the ocean. Two separate homes, two separate lives,
- 3:38Speaker 1: a relationship held in deliberate suspension. Rebecca had told him clearly,
- 3:43Speaker 1: no physical intimacy until they were married. She had said
- 3:47Speaker 1: this to Bruce. She had also said it to at
- 3:50Speaker 1: least one friend. And the way she said it, the
- 3:54Speaker 1: way it was framed, suggested it was less a personal
- 3:58Speaker 1: value and more a mechanism, a door kept locked, so
- 4:03Speaker 1: the key retained its value. Something about that arrangement deserves attention. Bruce,
- 4:09Speaker 1: a man with no prior experience in romantic relationships, had
- 4:13Speaker 1: found a woman who asked him to wait. And he waited.
- 4:17Speaker 1: He financed surgeries, breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, lip work. He paid
- 4:23Speaker 1: for jewelry. He furnished the house on the hill. He
- 4:26Speaker 1: gave her son a staple home. He invested... in the
- 4:30Speaker 1: most literal sense of the word, in the life Rebecca
- 4:33Speaker 1: was building around herself. And he waited for the door
- 4:37Speaker 1: to open. When it came time to plan the wedding,
- 4:40Speaker 1: Rebecca hired a photographer named Beth Lamb with no budget ceiling.
- 4:46Speaker 1: Whatever it costs, it costs. Bruce was paying. The venue
- 4:50Speaker 1: was a luxury country club. Bruce paid for that too.
- 4:54Speaker 1: At some point during the planning, Rebecca said something to
- 4:57Speaker 1: Beth that Beth would not forget. The exact phrasing, as
- 5:01Speaker 1: it was later recalled, was something close to this. You
- 5:05Speaker 1: want to know the trick to getting a ring like this?
- 5:09Speaker 1: Don't sleep with them until you are married. She said
- 5:12Speaker 1: it with the confidence of someone describing a technique that
- 5:16Speaker 1: had worked. Beth remembered it. She filed it away. She
- 5:20Speaker 1: would remember it again later, at the worst possible moment.
- 5:24Speaker 1: The honeymoon came and went. Afterward, Rebecca told friends that
- 5:29Speaker 1: Bruce had not performed well. Within days of returning, she
- 5:33Speaker 1: reached out to a man she had met at her
- 5:36Speaker 1: bachelorette party, a stripper, to arrange a meeting. The marriage was,
- 5:41Speaker 1: in practical terms, already over before the luggage was unpacked.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Approximately three months after the wedding, Rebecca retained a lawyer
- 5:53Speaker 1: and filed for divorce. Her terms were not modest half
- 5:57Speaker 1: of Bruce's assets, plus ongoing expenses. Bruce refused to sign.
- 6:02Speaker 1: He did not want the marriage to end. His parents
- 6:06Speaker 1: later said that the last time they saw him, the
- 6:09Speaker 1: night of the murder, Bruce told them he was going
- 6:12Speaker 1: to try to work things out with Rebecca, that they
- 6:16Speaker 1: were going to dinner, that he thought there was still
- 6:19Speaker 1: something worth saving. Those were the last words he said
- 6:23Speaker 1: to his family about the future. What Bruce did not
- 6:26Speaker 1: know And what would only surface in the investigation that
- 6:30Speaker 1: followed was that, while the divorce papers sat unsigned, Rebecca
- 6:35Speaker 1: had already been forging his name on life insurance policies,
- 6:38Speaker 1: multiple policies, all naming her as beneficiary. The total coverage
- 6:44Speaker 1: exceeded $ 1 million. She had also, by that point, recruited
- 6:49Speaker 1: two men to do something that the divorce papers could
- 6:52Speaker 1: not accomplish cleanly or quickly. The investigators would later conclude
- 6:57Speaker 1: that she had used her sexuality to maintain control over
- 7:01Speaker 1: both of them. Neither man, based on available evidence, appears
- 7:05Speaker 1: to have needed much convincing. The rational explanation that Rebecca
- 7:10Speaker 1: was a desperate woman, making reckless choices, stops working here.
- 7:15Speaker 1: What emerges instead is something more deliberate. A sequence of steps,
- 7:20Speaker 1: each one building on the last, each one closing off
- 7:23Speaker 1: the exit. Bruce did not know he was standing in
- 7:27Speaker 1: front of The first thing police noticed when they arrived
- 7:30Speaker 1: at the scene was how ordinary it looked. A dark
- 7:34Speaker 1: street in East Los Angeles. A stop sign. A black
- 7:38Speaker 1: SUV with its headlights on and its engine still running.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Two doors left open. Rebecca Cleland was lying on the
- 7:47Speaker 1: pavement nearby, conscious, crying. Bruce's body was a short distance away,
- 7:53Speaker 1: crumpled at the entrance of a garage driveway. There was
- 7:57Speaker 1: blood in the gutter. The detectives who caught the case
- 8:00Speaker 1: that night faced three immediate possibilities. A gang shooting in
- 8:05Speaker 1: the wrong place at the wrong time. A robbery gone wrong.
- 8:10Speaker 1: Or something more targeted. Nothing at the scene pointed clearly
- 8:15Speaker 1: toward any of them. Rebecca told investigators she had no
- 8:18Speaker 1: idea what happened. She said someone hit her from behind
- 8:22Speaker 1: and then she lost consciousness. When she came to, Bruce
- 8:26Speaker 1: was gone and her engagement ring had been stolen. Everything
- 8:31Speaker 1: about that story could have been true. East Los Angeles
- 8:34Speaker 1: had real violence, real danger, real robberies. And Rebecca looked
- 8:39Speaker 1: like a victim. She was on the ground. She was crying.
- 8:43Speaker 1: She had a bruise. The rational explanation was sitting right there,
- 8:47Speaker 1: waiting to be picked up. But the rational explanation had
- 8:51Speaker 1: a problem. Several problems. A witness near the scene had
- 8:55Speaker 1: seen a man running with a gun. That man got
- 8:58Speaker 1: into a waiting car and disappeared. A getaway driver. That
- 9:02Speaker 1: detail was not consistent with an opportunistic robberies. Robberies do
- 9:07Speaker 1: not come with getaway drivers. Robberies do not arrive and
- 9:12Speaker 1: leave on a schedule. Something about this killing had been arranged.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Investigators began pulling phone records. What they found on Rebecca's call,
- 9:21Speaker 1: log from that evening. rewrote everything they thought they knew
- 9:24Speaker 1: about the night. Eleven calls. She had made at least
- 9:28Speaker 1: eleven phone calls during dinner, in the hours before the shooting.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Every time Bruce looked away, the phone came out. She
- 9:37Speaker 1: was reaching someone repeatedly, at intervals, while sitting across from
- 9:42Speaker 1: the man she claimed to love. While the waiter refilled
- 9:45Speaker 1: Bruce's glass, while he talked about trying to save their marriage,
- 9:49Speaker 1: eleven calls to a number. Police would trace back with
- 9:53Speaker 1: devastating precision. That is where the rational explanation stopped working.
- 9:58Speaker 1: If this were a robbery... Rebecca could not have known,
- 10:02Speaker 1: in advance, where to be robbed. If this were random
- 10:05Speaker 1: gang violence, there would be no reason for eleven coordinated calls.
- 10:10Speaker 1: The witness who saw the gunman later identified him in
- 10:14Speaker 1: a police lineup, and before the night of the murder,
- 10:17Speaker 1: a man in the area had purchased a black market
- 10:20Speaker 1: weapon of the same type used to kill Bruce. The
- 10:23Speaker 1: purchase happened before the dinner, before the restaurant, before Rebecca
- 10:27Speaker 1: said she had no idea what was coming. Every piece
- 10:30Speaker 1: of evidence was pointed in one direction, and that direction
- 10:35Speaker 1: had Rebecca at the center. There is something that does
- 10:38Speaker 1: not fit neatly into the narrative of a cold, calculated
- 10:41Speaker 1: killer though. The people who knew Rebecca, the ones who
- 10:45Speaker 1: had watched her work through Bruce's finances, With patient precision,
- 10:49Speaker 1: who had seen her file, divorce papers, who had heard
- 10:52Speaker 1: the things she said about the marriage, most of them
- 10:56Speaker 1: still did not believe she was capable of ordering someone's death. Greed, yes. Manipulation, yes.
- 11:03Speaker 1: But murder, they hesitated. That hesitation is important. It means
- 11:08Speaker 1: the machine Rebecca built was invisible, even to people who
- 11:12Speaker 1: were watching it closely. There is a version of the
- 11:15Speaker 1: night of the murder that Bruce Cleland believed until the
- 11:18Speaker 1: last moment of his life. In that version, he and
- 11:21Speaker 1: Rebecca were going to dinner to try again. He had
- 11:24Speaker 1: told his parents earlier that evening that he wanted to
- 11:27Speaker 1: reconcile with her. His parents, who had already lost their
- 11:31Speaker 1: daughter to cancer the year before, listened to their son
- 11:35Speaker 1: describe hope. That was the last time they heard his voice.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Bruce walked out of their home, believing the woman he
- 11:42Speaker 1: married still wanted a future with him. Rebecca drove that night,
- 11:47Speaker 1: She later told police it was because Bruce had been
- 11:50Speaker 1: drinking more than usual. That detail alone, the control of
- 11:54Speaker 1: the car, the control of the route, the control of
- 11:57Speaker 1: when and where they stopped, would only become visible in hindsight.
- 12:03Speaker 1: They were in a part of East Los Angeles that
- 12:06Speaker 1: Bruce did not know well. Rebecca pulled the SUV over
- 12:10Speaker 1: near a stop sign and mentioned that the rear hatch
- 12:13Speaker 1: seemed to be open. She got out to check it.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Bruce stayed in the passenger seat. A man approached from
- 12:19Speaker 1: behind the vehicle. Bruce was shot once in the back
- 12:22Speaker 1: as he tried to run. He made it only a
- 12:24Speaker 1: few steps, then two bullets in the back of the head,
- 12:28Speaker 1: then one in the face at close range. Execution distance,
- 12:32Speaker 1: four shots total. His body came to rest at the
- 12:35Speaker 1: entrance of a garage driveway just off the street. There
- 12:39Speaker 1: is no version of this story where Bruce had any chance.
- 12:43Speaker 1: The positioning was deliberate. The timing was was deliberate. The
- 12:47Speaker 1: moment Rebecca stepped away from the car, the door was
- 12:51Speaker 1: already opening somewhere else in East Los Angeles. The man
- 12:55Speaker 1: with the gun climbing into the passenger seat of a
- 12:58Speaker 1: second vehicle being driven toward a coordinate Rebecca had confirmed
- 13:03Speaker 1: with 11 phone calls. When police arrived, the SUV's lights
- 13:08Speaker 1: were still on. The engine was still running. The radio
- 13:13Speaker 1: was still playing. and Rebecca was lying on the ground nearby, conscious,
- 13:18Speaker 1: telling officers that she had been struck from behind and
- 13:21Speaker 1: remembered nothing. Something in that scene felt wrong to the
- 13:25Speaker 1: first detectives on site, though none of them could have
- 13:28Speaker 1: named it precisely. The air of the whole thing was
- 13:31Speaker 1: too arranged, too clean for a robbery. The car in
- 13:36Speaker 1: too visible a spot, Rebecca too close, too conscious, too composed.
- 13:43Speaker 1: For someone who had just watched her husband die, she
- 13:45Speaker 1: told them her ring had been stolen. The diamond ring
- 13:49Speaker 1: Bruce had bought her. Gone. What happened next still cannot
- 13:53Speaker 1: be explained as anything other than the single greatest miscalculation
- 13:59Speaker 1: Rebecca Cleland ever made. Beth Lamb attended the funeral. Beth
- 14:04Speaker 1: had been hired by Rebecca to photograph the wedding. Hired
- 14:08Speaker 1: without any budget ceiling, given the kind of access most
- 14:11Speaker 1: photographers only dream about. During the planning sessions, Rebecca had
- 14:16Speaker 1: said something to Beth that stayed with her the way
- 14:18Speaker 1: a splinter stays under skin. Something about the ring, about
- 14:22Speaker 1: how to get a man to buy a ring like that.
- 14:24Speaker 1: The secret, Rebecca had explained, was to never sleep with
- 14:28Speaker 1: him until after the wedding. Beth had filed that comment
- 14:32Speaker 1: away without quite knowing what to do with it. At
- 14:35Speaker 1: the funeral, she saw the ring. It was on Rebecca's finger.
- 14:39Speaker 1: The same diamond ring that Rebecca had told police was
- 14:43Speaker 1: stolen the night her husband was murdered. The same ring
- 14:47Speaker 1: that had become part of the official account of what happened.
- 14:50Speaker 1: A robbery, a theft, evidence of a stranger's violence. The
- 14:55Speaker 1: ring was sitting in plain sight on Rebecca's hand at
- 14:58Speaker 1: the funeral of the man who bought it. Beth called
- 15:01Speaker 1: the police. When investigators arrived and asked to see Rebecca's hands,
- 15:06Speaker 1: the ring was still there. There was no version of
- 15:09Speaker 1: that moment that supported Rebecca's story. A stolen ring does
- 15:14Speaker 1: not return to the finger of the person it was
- 15:16Speaker 1: stolen from before her husband is in the ground. The
- 15:22Speaker 1: ring had never left her. She had kept it. She
- 15:26Speaker 1: had worn it to his funeral. That one object, chosen
- 15:30Speaker 1: by Rebecca, paid for by Bruce, declared stolen, then worn
- 15:34Speaker 1: to his burial, collapsed the entire structure of her account
- 15:39Speaker 1: in a single image, and what it opened underneath was
- 15:42Speaker 1: not ambiguity. What it opened was the full shape of
- 15:46Speaker 1: everything that had been built since 1995. The credit report
- 15:51Speaker 1: that Bertha saw instead of a person, the celibacy that
- 15:54Speaker 1: lasted exactly as long as it needed to, The insurance
- 15:58Speaker 1: policies with forged signatures worth more than a million dollars.
- 16:02Speaker 1: The 11 calls during the last dinner. Every detail recontextualized.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Every other detail. And at the center of all of it,
- 16:10Speaker 1: a diamond ring that Rebecca Clayland could not bring herself
- 16:13Speaker 1: to leave at home. Seven months after Bruce's death, Rebecca
- 16:17Speaker 1: was arrested alongside both men. The shooter. The driver. The
- 16:22Speaker 1: jury heard the phone records. The insurance forgeries. The witness identification.
- 16:27Speaker 1: the ring. They returned, a verdict of guilty on first-degree
- 16:32Speaker 1: murder and conspiracy to commit murder. The judge sentenced all
- 16:37Speaker 1: three to life without the possibility of parole. The people
- 16:40Speaker 1: who had known Rebecca, the ones who believed she was
- 16:43Speaker 1: greedy but not dangerous, learned in that courtroom what the
- 16:47Speaker 1: difference really costs, and Bruce's parents, who had buried their
- 16:51Speaker 1: daughter the year before, now had no children left. Seven
- 16:55Speaker 1: months after Bruce Cleland was shot Four times in an
- 16:58Speaker 1: East Los Angeles street, police arrested Rebecca and both men.
- 17:03Speaker 1: The investigation had quietly assembled what the crime scene could not.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Phone records, a black market weapon purchase, a witness identification,
- 17:13Speaker 1: and a diamond ring that refused to disappear. The jury
- 17:16Speaker 1: took no extraordinary length of time to reach its verdict.
- 17:20Speaker 1: First-degree murder, conspiracy to commit murder. All three received life
- 17:25Speaker 1: without the possibility of parole. There is something in that
- 17:29Speaker 1: outcome that feels clean on paper and hollow everywhere else.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Bruce's parents attended every day of the trial. They had
- 17:39Speaker 1: buried their daughter the year before. Cancer. Quiet. Final. Bruce
- 17:45Speaker 1: had been the surviving child. The one who called. The
- 17:49Speaker 1: one who showed up. When the verdict was read, they
- 17:51Speaker 1: were the people in that courtroom who had lost the
- 17:54Speaker 1: most and gained the least. Justice named a sentence. It
- 17:58Speaker 1: did not return anything. What the trial established, piece by piece,
- 18:03Speaker 1: was that nothing about the relationship had been accidental. The
- 18:06Speaker 1: spice market encounter in 1995 was the beginning of a selection,
- 18:12Speaker 1: not a story. Rebecca's friend Bertha had seen Bruce's credit
- 18:16Speaker 1: report before she ever met him in person. The celibacy
- 18:19Speaker 1: was declared to friends as strategy, not conviction. The wedding
- 18:24Speaker 1: was designed and funded entirely by the man who would
- 18:27Speaker 1: not survive the marriage by four months. Every step had
- 18:31Speaker 1: a direction. Bruce never saw it. The insurance policies are
- 18:36Speaker 1: the detail that sits longest after everything else settles. Rebecca
- 18:40Speaker 1: had forged Bruce's signature on more than $ 1 million in
- 18:44Speaker 1: life insurance, naming herself as beneficiary, before she ever filed
- 18:49Speaker 1: for divorce. That means the divorce papers and the insurance
- 18:53Speaker 1: forgeries were running simultaneously. Two exit strategies. One required Bruce
- 18:59Speaker 1: alive and cooperative. The other did not. When he refused
- 19:02Speaker 1: to sign the divorce settlement, only one of those strategies
- 19:06Speaker 1: remained viable. The 11 phone calls made during their final
- 19:10Speaker 1: dinner have never been fully explained in terms of exact content.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Investigators traced the numbers. The direction of those calls is
- 19:18Speaker 1: not in dispute. What remains is the image itself. Bruce
- 19:23Speaker 1: across the table, eating, perhaps hoping perhaps rehearsing whatever he
- 19:28Speaker 1: planned to say about reconciliation. Detail, second reconciliation, and Rebecca,
- 19:34Speaker 1: phone in hand, every time he looked away, coordinating the
- 19:38Speaker 1: last hour of his life. His parents last saw him
- 19:41Speaker 1: that evening, before the dinner. He told them he was
- 19:45Speaker 1: going to try to save the marriage. That was the
- 19:47Speaker 1: last thing he said to them about his future. He
- 19:50Speaker 1: said it the way someone says it, when they still
- 19:53Speaker 1: believe it is possible. What no one who knew Rebecca
- 19:57Speaker 1: before the arrest could fully absorb was the gap between
- 20:00Speaker 1: what they suspected and what she had actually done. People
- 20:04Speaker 1: who knew about the credit report, about the celibacy plan,
- 20:08Speaker 1: about the forged signatures, People who had already decided she
- 20:11Speaker 1: was calculating and cold still could not place her at
- 20:15Speaker 1: the edge of that street. Watching the distance between fraud
- 20:19Speaker 1: and murder felt too wide to cross. It was not.
- 20:24Speaker 1: That failure of imagination is not a flaw in the
- 20:27Speaker 1: people who knew her. It is the mechanism the entire
- 20:31Speaker 1: scheme depended on. Bruce Clayland was 42 years old. He
- 20:36Speaker 1: had never been on a date before. He met Rebecca.
- 20:39Speaker 1: He had spent decades invisible to the world of romantic attention.
- 20:44Speaker 1: And then one afternoon in a farmer's market, a woman
- 20:48Speaker 1: smiled at him and everything shifted. He bought her a
- 20:51Speaker 1: house on a hill. He paid for surgeries, jewelry, furniture,
- 20:56Speaker 1: a wedding at a country club, a honeymoon. He refused
- 21:00Speaker 1: to sign divorce papers. because he still believed the marriage
- 21:05Speaker 1: was worth saving. He told his parents. So, hours before
- 21:09Speaker 1: he died, the ring Rebecca said was stolen the night
- 21:13Speaker 1: of the murder was on her finger at his funeral.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Beth Lamb saw it across the room, the same ring
- 21:20Speaker 1: Bruce had bought, the same ring Rebecca had chosen, the
- 21:25Speaker 1: ring that was supposed to be gone. Beth Lamb called
- 21:28Speaker 1: the police. Officers arrived and asked to see Rebecca's hands.
- 21:32Speaker 1: The ring was there. Bruce's parents had no surviving children.
- 21:37Speaker 1: After that night, they had lost a daughter to cancer
- 21:41Speaker 1: and a son to a diamond ring and 11 phone
- 21:44Speaker 1: calls and a plan that started in a spice market
- 21:47Speaker 1: and ended on a street in East Los Angeles with
- 21:50Speaker 1: four bullets fired at close range. The last confirmed image
- 21:54Speaker 1: of Bruce Clayland is not from the crime scene. It
- 21:58Speaker 1: is from that evening, standing with his parents, telling them
- 22:02Speaker 1: he was going to try. He believed it when he
- 22:04Speaker 1: said it. He walked out the door and did not
- 22:08Speaker 1: look back. This show is made by Oboe Media.