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#200 - Ben Shapiro Joins the Chaos | Nick Fuentes Can’t Be Ignored Now · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Ben Shapiro has thrown his hat into the ring, and now he is discussing the Nick
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  Fuentes story that continues to develop.
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  And it's primarily because of Tucker Carlson, and that is what launched this
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  whole thing into hypersonic mode that we find ourselves in.
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  Nick is a very eccentric person. He has been on the Internet since he was probably
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  around 15, 16 years old. So he has a lot of track record, but he started very, very young.
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  And as you can say, if you start that young, you're going to say things that maybe you regret.
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  I don't know if he regrets any of the things he says. I don't think he thinks like that.
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  Maybe we shouldn't think like that, but he has certainly said a lot of crazy things.
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  And in Ben Shapiro's show yesterday that was released right after I got done with mine.
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  Ben Shapiro got into it and he explained why this is dangerous waters that we
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  are in and what Tucker did. And he primarily focused on Tucker.
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  He didn't get into Nick Fuentes a whole lot, though he showed plenty of clips
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  of Nick Fuentes and the craziest things that he has said.
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  He throws bombs. He throws grenades like nobody's business.
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  But I want to take a look at this. This is where this is the issue that Ben Shapiro raised.
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  He said it's not an issue that Tucker brought Nick Fuentes on his show,
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  but the issue is that he is normalizing Nick Fuentes.
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  I want to show this clip and then we'll dissect it.
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  The issue here isn't that Tucker Carlson had Nick Fuentes on his show last week.
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  He has every right to do that, of course.
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  The issue here is that Tucker Carlson decided to normalize and fluff Nick Fuentes
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  and that the Heritage Foundation then decided to robustly defend that performance.
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  Those who criticize both Tucker and Heritage aren't canceling,
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  they are quite properly drawing a moral line.
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  So for those who don't understand what's going on, let's begin with Nick Fuentes.
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  Now, as I mentioned. Okay, so he's going to get it. He gets into it pretty in
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  depth, though. He primarily targets Tucker.
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  He but he just throws out. This is where I'm saying that, Ben,
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  you need to bring just like Tucker eventually did. You need to bring Nick Fuentes
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  on your show and you need to have a discussion.
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  What Charlie Kirk didn't do when he when he was alive, he did not engage with
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  Nick Fuentes. And I think that is, that ended up, I think it's because he thought
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  he had more time, but that ended up being a terrible thing.
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  We cannot, and he says, Bench says it's not canceling someone,
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  but it is canceling someone when you're not acknowledging them.
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  When he this person has this big of a platform, big of a voice,
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  a megaphone that he is reaching the masses. This is the way that things are going.
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  And I don't I mean, I'm actually completely on board with this.
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  I think the parties need to completely to be need to be burned to the ground,
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  burn this motherfucker to the ground.
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  These Republican and Democrats. This is stupid.
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  The way that we've allowed this to last for this long.
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  But something needs to just ignite something a change is need to happen I know it becomes.
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  Extremely tribal but like and then it becomes I'm behind this person I'm not
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  behind that person let's throw all of that out of the window it's what is the
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  ideas ideas need to rise and I think what Ben has done for years he's just not
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  even talked about Nick Fuentes instead of just,
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  slowly engaging with them, talking about where we differ.
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  You know, Nick is going to say some crazy things. We all know that.
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  He says the craziest things out there. And I mean, I do not agree with a lot
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  of the things he says. He's entertaining.
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  That's what he is. That's why everyone is so afraid of him is because he's so
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  freaking entertaining.
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  And he just says the things that people really are thinking.
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  But Nick just says it. Nick just says it.
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  And that's why everybody is so afraid of this guy.
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  But you can't, there's no more of just hiding and just saying,
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  not thinking he's on our planet. He is. And he's growing.
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  We need to acknowledge. Tucker acknowledged him. And now he's getting a tremendous
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  blowback. The next clip we're going to look at, this is Nick Fuentes.
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  And he says how extreme he has gotten.
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  And he thinks that the whole MAGA movement, because he was, when he was brought
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  into this, he was a Trump supporter. He was a MAGA supporter and all that.
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  You know, MAGA, Trump, I mean, I like Trump, but the whole MAGA thing,
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  I mean, I've never been a person like, oh, I'm MAGA, let's make America great again.
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  But I liked what Trump did and what he is doing. He is the best option.
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  That's why I would disagree a lot of ways that Nick's doing this.
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  He is seriously just wanting to burn it down. He wants to, it's not about just
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  putting another politician out there.
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  That is his biggest thing. It's a message. He wants to send a message to the thing.
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  He wants to, because once he talks about when you get to election day,
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  you're just, that's what you have.
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  You're not really making a choice once election day actually gets here.
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  It's all, everything that builds up to election day that is what matters, you know?
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  I think it's just, we need to figure out a different way of doing things.
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  Status quo is not going to work anymore. Gen Z, the generation that is rising,
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  that is going to be taking over.
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  The boomer generation is slowly, you know, they're passing away.
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  The Gen Z, that is the way things are going. So it's people that are stuck in
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  their ways like Ben Shapiro, and they just want to push this to the side, not even deal with it.
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  Charlie Kirk, he dealt with it every day. He talked to these kids. He was in there.
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  That's why he was what strikes me the most and shocks me the most that he didn't bring Nick on.
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  Like he didn't talk and I think it was the Israel side
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  the Jewish side of his donors that they didn't
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  want this that they were the ones holding him back and saying you can't do this
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  they I think Charlie Kirk because he talked to everyone he wanted to talk to
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  everyone but they're the reason that he didn't it had to be coming from the
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  same side that Ben Shapiro's on and I I like Israel I I don't like, I don't like, but I,
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  they're, they're doing, they're terrible at, they're terrible at like running
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  the story and making themselves, they, they fit all the, the things that people
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  would think that they look stupid about.
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  They, they, they fit into all those picturesque moments that everybody just assumes is them.
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  They fit the mold perfectly. And they're, I guess they're terrible at PR.
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  That is what I'm trying to say. Like they're terrible at PR and making themselves
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  look in the best light possible.
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  And I think they're trying to change that. And they wanted to have Charlie Kirk
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  be the face of the person that just touts Israel and Jewish propaganda as opposed.
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  And they didn't want to deal with the uprising that was coming from Nick Fuentes.
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  I don't think we need to throw everything out. I think we can take the good
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  and remove the bad from everything.
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  Like I'm gonna if Nick says something stupid and crazy I would say yes that
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  that's insane what you're saying and he's able to get clicks he's able to get
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  views by the things he says.
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  I think there just has to be a complete mind shift with the way things are going.
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  There has to be a difference the way things are heading.
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  And I think that Nick Fuentes, he's the start of that. He's the spark.
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  This just goes to show this entire thing has been a scam.
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  When we look back on the history of populism in America, we are going to look
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  back on the MAGA movement as the biggest scam in American history.
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  And the liberals were right.
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  The MAGA supporters were had. They were. So, that right there is just a brief
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  glimpse into the twisted mind of Nick Fuentes.
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  And there's plenty more where that came from, of course.
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  Hours of it per day, in fact. And there's no doubt that Nick Fuentes has a lot of play these days.
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  That's because the left, by moving into a politics of anti-white,
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  anti-Christian, anti-male identitarianism, created its bizarro mirror image.
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  A white pseudo-Christian incel identitarian movement dedicated to destroying
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  the institutions of this country and replacing Americanism with something else.
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  Nick Fuentes' philosophy is not fully formed. It's an incoherent stew of malignity.
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  But that's where Tucker Carlson enters the story. All right,
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  that's what we're going to, and I think that's a very smart point,
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  but because the things that Nick says, because it has to be about a message.
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  He just wants to disrupt everything.
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  He doesn't want the things to continue as they were.
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  And he saw Trump as being the person that would basically torch the system and
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  remake it. remake it and change it.
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  And then he thinks that Trump is not doing that, which, I mean,
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  you could say Trump is his own thing. He's the way that he has run his presidency.
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  It's, it's, it's different. It's not, it's not the way it started out as,
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  and we've, I was pretty much disillusioned by Trump whenever the Epstein files,
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  when he didn't want to acknowledge that.
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  And I think a lot of people were, but that has been just falling off the radar.
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  People don't really care about that as much anymore, but Nick,
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  he wants things to be changed. He wants things to be different, but it doesn't...
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  There's no solution a lot of times with what he is bringing.
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  He just wants to bring a match, you know, and start the fire and just watch
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  it, you know, and I'm, I'm actually okay with that because I don't like the
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  political structure that we have, you know, I just be left, right.
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  And all this kind of stuff, let, let ideas be what, what wins the day.
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  You know, that's what matters. If you have a good idea, if what you're saying
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  is, you know, going to advance and, and make things better for people, then that's great.
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  That's, I think that is where we should go and just people just be in a part
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  of a party and just swearing allegiance to a party. And that's, that's everything.
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  That's your life or just to one singular person, because where everybody sees
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  everything differently, you know, somebody can be saying the same thing and
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  everybody hear it 10 different ways, you know?
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  So we're not, you know, just a monolith in the way that we think Everybody thinks
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  and sees things differently.
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  And I think Nick is, this is a good direction that we were going.
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  And Ben Shapiro and all the people on his side, you know, there is this,
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  he's got to acknowledge it.
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  And he softly acknowledged it on his show yesterday and talking about Nick Fuentes,
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  but it was just clips to just discredit him.
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  That's all it was. That's all it was, you know, because I mean,
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  I listened to the things that Nick says in a lot of the, it is just out there.
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  And I disagree with like, like a lot of it, you know, but he's also saying a
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  lot of things that are correct and a lot of things that are right,
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  you know, but everybody's, I think everybody should get involved in this.
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  Everybody should be aware of what is happening because this,
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  this needs to be the, the catalyst for everything in the political environment
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  that we find ourselves in every day.
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  So, all right, we'll leave it at that. Like, and share this video,
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  So follow me on X and Instagram at Brandon Fogle. Have a great day.