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101. Pin Trading 101 (Hub Episode) · Mom Street USA

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  Welcome everybody to Mom St. USA.
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  My name is Jackie AKA Wishes Mama and I am joined for this
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  hub episode by our good friends Duck and Jess AKA Beanie Duck.
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  And today's topic is pin trading one O 1.
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  So we haven't really talked a ton about pin trading on Mom St.
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  We talked a little bit about it on our Disney Collections for
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  Kids episode a few months back, but we haven't really tackled
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  the topic of pin trading. So that is today's topic.
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  We're hoping to give you a little bit of background talk, a
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  little bit about what it is, how it works, what to do, all those
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  kind of basics. So Duck and Jess, before we hop
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  in, how are you guys doing today?
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  Doing pretty good. I'm like you said, I'm chomping
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  at the bit to get after this. I'm so excited.
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  I love it yes. So let's go ahead and hop in so
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  we don't have to wait any further to impart our knowledge
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  on our lovely Mom St. listeners here.
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  So let's talk about pin trading. All right, so pin trading, pin
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  trading is as to me is somebody in this culture, and I think a
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  lot of people who are just aware of it in general, like is as
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  synonymous with Disney parks as Mickey Mouse is, right?
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  Like it is like truly integral to the history of Disney parks
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  and activities to be done within the park.
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  So throughout today, I hope we're going to touch on some
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  we're going to touch on some of the basics, give you a little
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  bit of insight into, you know, I think you said it earlier,
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  Jackie, what is pin trading? How did this get started?
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  Some basic information for you to know as a starter into this
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  world and and just some general 101 information about it.
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  So it's expensive, but it's a really fun.
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  Yeah, but it doesn't have to be right?
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  Like you can, you can make this, you can let it get out of
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  control like we did or, or like you can keep it a very
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  manageable, respectable lanyard full of pins, right?
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  Like you can as normal or as extreme about it as you want.
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  And that's the fun thing about this hobby, right?
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  Like you can collect a huge variety of different things, or
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  you can focus on one character or one movie, or maybe there's
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  like a particular line that releases that you really like,
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  like a theme. So there's lots and lots to see
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  and enjoy within the hobby. So I think that's it.
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  I think let's talk about it. So let's start with the
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  question, what is pin trading? Yes, Jess, what is pin trading?
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  I'm so glad you're going to answer that.
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  So Disney Pin Trading is buying and trading either with cast
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  members or with guests at the parks, collectible pins that
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  feature Disney characters, Disney parks attractions,
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  different icons of the parks and Disney as a whole and other, you
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  know, different elements of just the Disney brand.
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  So trading most commonly takes place within the Disney parks.
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  But and Disney also puts on a yearly pin event.
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  I believe they do them in on both coasts, but definitely
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  Orlando does one every year where it's a separate ticketed
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  event. Usually takes place like near in
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  the Epcot area. It can be in the UPCOT area.
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  It's also taken place in contemporary before.
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  So it just kind of. Wherever has like a big event
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  space in the parks, they'll host it in there and there's special,
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  you know, limited edition pins that kind of follow whatever the
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  theme of that year's event is. They show previews of upcoming
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  pins and things like that at those events.
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  And you can also do pin trading at those events obviously as
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  well. No, you're actually supposedly
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  not allowed to say. Can you imagine if they did
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  that, that people would exceed? Yeah.
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  Yep, Yep, Yep. There's also a lot of local
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  events where people do pin trading.
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  A big pin group in this area is the Central Jersey Pin Trading
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  Group. Just a quick shout out to them.
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  They're all amazing. They have helped me source many
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  pieces in my collection. They're very kind.
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  It happened. There's lots and lots of local
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  groups. So just like start all over your
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  area. Plus Disney pin trading,
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  Facebook will come up. Ours does like a little
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  convention, like nice like four or five times a year, like every
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  couple of months everybody gets together.
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  They just like rent out a room and like a Marriott somewhere in
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  Jersey and, and everybody goes and they they pin trade.
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  It's a lot of fun. It's really cool.
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  I've seen other areas. I follow Youtubers that live in
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  like Canada and they go to pin events there.
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  So like literally all over wherever there is like a Disney
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  culture, there will be pin trading events probably
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  happening. Also, online groups are really
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  big. I'm in a couple of those and
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  I've done, you know, pin trading with people all over the country
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  and all over the world. So there's, you know, online
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  groups as well that you can use to pin trade.
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  So lots of different avenues to do it, but the parks is
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  obviously the main spot. So when you're trading in the
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  parks or at different events, only official Disney pins can be
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  traded. We'll get into non official
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  Disney pins in a second, but official Disney pins include
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  pins purchased from the parks. But also stores like Box Lunch,
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  Hot Topic, Walmart's sell them. Sometimes people have found them
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  all over the place. Some people get them at like
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  Hobby Lobby and stuff. So like all kinds of places do
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  sell like officially licensed Disney pins.
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  So those are the only ones though that can be traded in the
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  parks. There is also the concept of
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  fantasy pins, so we have one right here to show these.
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  For the for the visual folks, I I know that not ever, I know
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  there's some people listening to this, but for the visual folks,
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  we have watched a quick example. So fantasy pins are fan made
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  pins that feature Disney characters.
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  Oftentimes they feature like mash ups of a couple of
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  different, you know, Disney properties are like this pin
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  which combine Disney and Marvel with the Loki, you know, Gator
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  and Peter Pan. So those pins typically people
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  will make and sell on like Etsy shops and things like that.
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  So these are not official Disney pins, so they cannot be traded
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  in the parks. But again, you might find it
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  like those online communities or maybe in pin events where like
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  people have specifically fantasy pins or trade, but you can
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  really only trade fantasy pins for other fantasy pins, not for
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  official Disney pins, at least in the parks.
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  Yeah, that totally makes sense. So for those of you who cannot
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  see what we just showed, just explained it a little bit, but
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  it is a pin featuring the alligator Loki from that TV show
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  also along, yes, with with a Peter Pan character, kind of,
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  you know, elbow leaning on him. So that is the fantasy pin that
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  the duck showed on our video here.
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  So yes, like just mentioned, if you've got fantasy pins and want
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  to trade someone else for another fantasy pin, that is
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  totally fine. I don't necessarily anticipate
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  that you find those much in the parks.
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  That's more of kind of like those pin trading events that
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  you would see that type of thing at.
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  Yeah. And there is like a very strong
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  rule in the pin trading community that like, it's
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  totally OK for you to have fantasy pins, for you to add
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  them to the your collection. There's all kinds of really
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  great, interesting, cool concepts that people can come up
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  with. But you need to make it clear
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  that what you are selling or trading is a fantasy pin and
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  it's not an official Disney pin. And most of the time people
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  don't care because they just want it because it's cool.
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  But there is a strong culture of just making sure that you are
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  like clearly representing exactly what it is and that it's
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  not an official pin, Disney pin. Yeah, and that goes for any pin
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  that you're trading, right? Like if you know, and we'll get
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  into real pin scrappers, that kind of stuff.
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  But like, you always just want to be upfront, you know, be a
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  kind human when it comes to trading.
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  And again, we'll talk about that in a little bit here, but let's
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  just do a brief history because I feel like we can't really talk
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  about pin trading without talking about why in the world
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  we do it. Like, why is it even a thing?
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  Where did it come from? So the very first Disney pin was
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  actually released all the way back in 1930, and it was a pin
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  that was released in honor of the Mickey Mouse Club, but
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  television show that was on. So thought that was pretty cool.
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  But pins have always been around as souvenirs in the Disney parks
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  from the very beginning. Trading has not always been
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  around from the very beginning. And we'll talk about that here
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  in a moment. But you can trace back to
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  finding these pins that were for sale as souvenirs all the way
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  back to the beginnings of Disneyland.
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  So they've definitely been in the Disney parks culture for as
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  long as the Disney parks have been around.
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  And I will just say officially sanctioned Disney pin trading
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  has not been around. Very true, right?
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  Ever since pins became a thing, people have been trading them,
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  right? Like all the way back to, I
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  don't know when they were created, the 1800s or something
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  like I who knows, something like that.
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  Hate probably knows. Let's be real.
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  Hate probably knows of. Of if I had to tag a specific
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  friend, it would be Kate for her to just know the history of pin
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  badges off the top of her head. So I do know that they go.
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  I do know that the the concept of pin training goes back at.
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  Least as far. As I think it was the 1898,
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  something like that Olympics, like the late 1800s and I'll
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  talk a little bit about like how that influenced Disney.
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  And in just a hot 2nd, did you want to mention anything else
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  about souvenirs before launch into my little history lesson?
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  No. Let's hear about pin trading and
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  the history of that aspect. So the, the true Disney like
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  quote UN quote sanctioned Disney pin trading starts with the
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  Millennium celebration, right? It starts in 1999.
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  If you all remember the fun little thing of the little magic
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  wand over to Epcot ball, right? Lots of things.
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  It was so cool. I have so many photos in front
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  of that thing as a small child. It's unbelievable.
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  I loved it. My mom loved.
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  She took every angle and photo possible.
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  We have at least three disposable cameras worth of just
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  photos of the Epcot ball and I'm like, that fully checks out.
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  That's where you get your. Life.
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  And that explains so much. Yes, it does.
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  Yes, it does. Go Debbie, go take those photos.
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  Pass, pass that love of the Epcot ball onto your child.
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  So so it starts in 99. There's some possibly apocryphal
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  stories about what influenced it to start.
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  Then there is a convention called the Odyssey of the Mind
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  that takes place, I believe it's the previous year in Epcot, in
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  which it's like an international, kind of like a
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  Mensa situation, right? Like we're all kinds of smart
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  people from all over the world come and they meet in Epcot and
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  as a result they bring different badges from all over the world
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  and they trade them with each other.
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  So the story that gets referenced and then gets
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  referenced again and then gets referenced again and no one can
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  really find true origin is that this, you know, Odyssey of the
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  Mind event took place. People saw them trading.
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  But the other probable influence for this, and even probably
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  influence this Odyssey of the Mind convention, is the trading
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  of pins at the Olympic Village. I think this got a lot of
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  attention the last Olympic Games too, but it's been around
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  basically ever since like modern Olympics, like in the late 1800s
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  when we could start making these like metal forged pins
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  essentially. So at the Olympics, different
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  countries send their delegates with pins representing their
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  home country in some way, right? Sometimes it's just a flag,
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  sometimes it's like a national animal, sometimes it's a full
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  design. It very much depends like what
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  the theme of that year is, right?
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  Sometimes they'll get nationally recognized artists involved.
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  It's a pretty big thing. And so there is trading as like
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  a sign of cooperation and friendship at the Olympic Games
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  between the delegates. And of course, like some are
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  very sought after because there are some countries that don't
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  have a lot of delegates that are sent a lot of athletes.
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  So whatever it may be, but some of them are just cool designs,
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  some of them are limited. So Olympic Games is like a very
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  big hub for pin trading and sort of that's where it filters into
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  like the cultural zeitgeist at large.
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  So it's probably a combination of the 2 is what inspires the
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  quote UN quote official Disney pin trading in 99.
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  And then it catches like wildfire because everyone's
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  like, I also want to trade official Disney pins and
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  Disney's like, this seems like a great business opportunity, so.
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  So what and how right they were? Oh yeah.
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  The, the shameful amount, amount of money that we have spent on
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  pins proves that that was a correct hypothesis.
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  So within a year it travels over to Disneyland and then it's,
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  it's at every Disney park across the the world.
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  Now it is a huge part of Disney. I mean, Walt Disney World, I
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  think is the, is the biggest one, right?
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  That's where you'll see the most pin boards and it's the most
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  trader friendly. But it is quite literally in
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  every Disney park across the world you'll find people pin
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  trading. Paris has a very big and like
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  kind of culture and community. They do.
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  I, I was actually very surprised.
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  That pins are beautiful. They're, oh, my God, The pins,
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  the Disneyland Paris pins. I encourage everybody, if you're
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  listening to this in the car, please pull over and look this
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  up. Use your phone while driving.
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  I absolutely love the Disneyland Paris pins.
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  They are beautiful. They're like small works of art
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  on a pin. It's they're incredible, all of
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  them. They have a couple of them.
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  Yeah. And you'll hear us talk about
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  this here in a little bit because we'll talk about kind of
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  where in the parks to trade. But do keep in mind that some of
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  the parks are a little bit more strict about the types of pins
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  that they will allow for trades. So I just want to get that out
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  of the gate kind of information upfront.
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  Places like Disneyland Paris are very, very strict about what
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  types of pins they will allow. So you will find their cast
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  members are are holding some of that to a higher standard.
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  You'll also find that currently in the year that we are
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  recording this in 2025, they are considering this the 25th
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  anniversary of pin trading. So the amount of boards that you
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  can find across the parks has skyrocketed because of that.
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  So you'll find so many more boards in Disney World and
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  Disneyland especially for that reason.
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  But yeah, definitely all of the parks and it does ebb and flow.
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  Some of the parks do more trading than some of the other
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  ones. So, but it is definitely, it
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  does exist in all of the Disney parks across the world.
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  Yeah, absolutely. And it also kind of depends on
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  time of year. Like we've gone at various times
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  of year and we've went to go look for a pin board that was
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  there in, you know, late like during Jersey week in November.
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  We, you know, we know it's always there.
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  And then we went during, you know, spring or something and it
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  just was never there, right. So like what's available kind of
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  can fluctuate and. COVID also impacted it a lot,
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  like it's of a while for it to kind of come back in full force
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  after the pandemic, unfortunately.
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  But now I think it is, you know, especially with the 25th
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  anniversary, like it is back, but it took a while.
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  Some of those pinboards in action for the We're So back,
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  Baby. So duck tell us, how does the
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  trading element of this work? So it is as simple as you see a
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  pin that you like and you politely ask, would you like to
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  trade, right? It is, it seems like I think a
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  lot of people get daunted. You know, it's, it's a daunting
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  prospect to just sort of like break out of that comfort zone
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  and just ask somebody or cast member to trade.
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  But it truly is as simple as that, right?
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  You see something, you say, hey, would you like to trade?
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  Would you like to see the pins I have available?
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  And that's it. If you're trading with cast
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  members, there are a ton. Like Jackie just said.
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  There's boards that are set up. Some of them are like themed,
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  like I think you were saying before.
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  There's like some cute sea creature themed ones by Nemo.
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  Yeah. My very first trade that I ever
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  did in the parks, I was telling this story right before we
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  hopped on, but I'm happy to tell it again.
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  I it was super early in the morning at Animal Kingdom and I
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  was taking the outside path to go from like the Everest area
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  down towards what is currently the the remnants of Dinoland USA
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  that are being changed over. But I walked by the Nemo
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  building and the shows had not started for the day.
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  But they had a line of cast members out and they all had
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  little sea creature themed pinboards.
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  So they just look like kind of like cork boards.
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  If you're not familiar with them, a lot of them are Mickey
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  Mouse head shaped. Some of them are other shapes.
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  There's some that's and that's kind of the general thing you
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  will find with pin boards. There's lots of other fun pin
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  boards like in the Brown Derby restaurant at Hollywood Studios,
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  you can find a a bowler hat that they do pin trading on.
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  There are traffic cones out in some of the parking lots that
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  you can do pin trading at, but generally speaking, it's a board
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  of some kind. But these ones were, yeah, they
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  were shaped like there was like a jellyfish and an octopus and
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  some other sea creatures that they had pins on, which is super
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  fun. When you see it, you're like, Oh
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  my gosh, that's so cute. So yes, they definitely have
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  some some themed ones out there that do exist.
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  Yes, so and I love that. I I just think it's really fun.
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  I think the bowler hat is really fun and branded, but yeah, so
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  generally if you're trading with a cast member, you'll see it on
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  a board or other adjacent substance.
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  You'll just see the the pins stick, you know, just in the
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  board itself. But also cast members have it's
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  usually on their hip. It's usually just like a small
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  like, you know, 5 by 5 piece of felt that they have a couple of
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  pins, pins too. And those are available for
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  trade. We actually have been told
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  specifically by cast members that those pins get given to
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  them for trade. They are not their personal
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  collection. So you if you see a really good
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  one, you do not have to feel bad.
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  You are not like taking it from the the cast member.
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  You are not like stealing their personal pin collection that is
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  given to them by management for trade.
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  So that is like all of that is 100% open and up for trading.
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  So that covers where you'll find it trading with a cast member.
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  But if you are trading with a fellow guest, there's a number
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  of ways that people might choose to display the pins.
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  Most commonly it's a lanyard, right?
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  That's usually what we'll wear. We'll have a lanyard with a
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  coat, you know, usually like 4 or 5 pins on it for what, where
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  is available to trade. Some people will have like
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  display backpacks. So they'll just have, you know,
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  like a crossbody or something with like a clear window and
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  some kind of little like foam piece in there that they've
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  stuck their pins to. So sometimes those are just for
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  display. Sometimes people actually want
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  to trade those. So again, it's just as simple as
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  like going up and asking politely, would you like to pin
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  trade. There are also the other thing I
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  want to note is that some parks have specific locations that are
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  designated as pin trading locations, right?
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  So while you may come across like a store that has a pin
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  board, it may or may not be there, but what will generally
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  always be there are these pin locations.
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  So that includes in Epcot. It's it's like a little, it's
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  like a little, I don't know what I call it a shack.
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  It's like a little covered building between connections and
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  club. Cool.
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  Yeah, it's like the breezeway, the walkway through.
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  So if you go past connections and you hang a left to go to
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  that side, they've got all those like picnic table esque kind of
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  tables outside and they will set up shop, especially if you're
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  there on weekends, you will find people just those, all of those
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  tables will be full and they've got just books and books and
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  books of pins to trade. Yes.
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  And actually what I was describing before with the
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  Shack, that was when we went during COVID, they had relocated
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  temporarily. There was it was like one of
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  those pin trading little like outpost stores.
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  That's what I was thinking of. You're right.
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  You're right, yeah. Have since moved it back.
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  Yeah, because they used to be towards the front of Epcot, but
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  like within the last several months they relocated them
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  because I think with it being the 25th anniversary pin trading
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  again, this, you know, starting the, you know, really like the
• 19:52
  spring of this year has been super, super popular.
• 19:55
  So it was becoming a a walkway issue where they were meeting
• 20:00
  outside of one of the little gift shops underneath spaceship
• 20:03
  Earth. And it became an issue where
• 20:05
  they couldn't there was not enough walkway room.
• 20:08
  So Disney just politely asked them like, hey, you can let's
• 20:10
  relocate over here where the walkway is 4 times wider to give
• 20:15
  lots of lots of space for that. So yes, that's where you can
• 20:18
  find them. And it was funny.
• 20:20
  We were eating on my. My last trip when I went with my
• 20:23
  family around Memorial Day, we were eating inside of
• 20:25
  connections right on that side and we were like watching all of
• 20:29
  the pin traders through the big windows.
• 20:31
  I'm like watching everyone interact.
• 20:32
  My kids were like, I got his God out there.
• 20:35
  I know it's like, OK, we'll go look at them.
• 20:37
  Like cuz you're always also welcome to like just go take a
• 20:39
  look and see what people have, you know too.
• 20:42
  But they're like, we'll go look at them, but you got to eat
• 20:44
  first. That's a totally fair rule.
• 20:47
  Just has to say the same thing to me.
• 20:48
  I have. To react to.
• 20:49
  Eating for your Sinner first and say I.
• 20:52
  Drain. That's it.
• 20:54
  Then we can do pay takes. Three more bites and a simple
• 20:56
  water and then we can go pin trade.
• 20:58
  OK. Yes, OK.
• 21:01
  So true, so true. Oh goodness.
• 21:05
  For other pin trading spots, there is one in Hollywood
• 21:07
  studios. It is inside SIDS, it is at the
• 21:11
  entrance to the left. And there are other places
• 21:15
  again, like it kind of shifts. So if you're not sure, ask a
• 21:19
  cast member if there's like an official set up location or just
• 21:22
  look for the very excited people with pinfolios.
• 21:24
  Like it's very easy to spot where they usually are.
• 21:27
  And sometimes it's like an unofficial meet up, right?
• 21:29
  Like could just be locals getting together to pin trade.
• 21:32
  We saw that one time when and we were outside of Casey's, like we
• 21:34
  just had sat down to go, you know, grab some corn dog Nuggets
• 21:37
  or whatever and there just happened to be like a little
• 21:40
  local meet up of like, I don't know, it's probably like 10
• 21:43
  people. But pin trading, it was just
• 21:44
  like really fun and cool to see. There's like slightly before we
• 21:48
  were as obsessed with pin trading as we were.
• 21:51
  So like, you know, just just ask and keep your eyes peeled.
• 21:53
  You'll see plenty of people pin trading.
• 21:55
  Yeah. And that being said too, you can
• 21:57
  find a lot of, like I think Jess had mentioned earlier, like
• 22:00
  Facebook groups or different things for pin trading.
• 22:02
  So not only like local to wherever you are, but also like
• 22:05
  down in the parks too, you know. So keeping an eye out on those,
• 22:09
  if you were like wanting to find people to meet up with, keeping
• 22:12
  an eye on those Facebook groups is always a good idea.
• 22:15
  Absolutely. All right.
• 22:17
  So now that we kind of know how to pin trade, where do you get
• 22:20
  pins to trade? So you can purchase them
• 22:23
  directly from the Disney parks. There are pins in every single
• 22:27
  gift shop all over Disney property, So you can definitely
• 22:30
  buy them there. But there are other retailers
• 22:32
  that sell licensed pins. So I kind of mentioned it before
• 22:34
  Hot Topic box lunch places like Walmart.
• 22:38
  And then there are different types of pins within that.
• 22:42
  So Disney does sell like kind of pin trading starter kits that
• 22:45
  will usually come with a lanyard and then like 4 to 5 pins around
• 22:48
  like a different theme. So maybe it's like Princesses or
• 22:51
  Nightmare Before Christmas or Toy Story.
• 22:56
  Basically a lot of the more like popular collections of pins that
• 23:01
  people collect. So kind of a good way to get
• 23:03
  started and then have, you know, some pins to trade with cast
• 23:05
  members or with other guests. There are other retailers online
• 23:11
  that have good reputations that you can buy from.
• 23:13
  They'll sell, you know, pin bundles, but they'll also, you
• 23:17
  know, sell individual pins and different things like that.
• 23:20
  So Gopimpro is an example. We were talking about them
• 23:23
  before we started recording. They sell a lot of like
• 23:29
  collections of like pins and like the accessory boards for
• 23:32
  like $60.00. You get like 10 pins with the
• 23:34
  board. Be sure that the description
• 23:37
  though guarantees that it is authentic Disney pins.
• 23:41
  You can also go again to the local pin trading events like
• 23:43
  we've talked about. Pin traders are super friendly
• 23:47
  and they're always, you know, just looking to see people come
• 23:49
  into the hobby, you know, and get people started with
• 23:52
  collecting. So especially for like kiddos
• 23:54
  and stuff. Yeah, I know.
• 23:56
  I've given like a kid didn't have anything to trade me and I
• 23:59
  just gave him like 3 stitch pins because who cares, right?
• 24:01
  Like I would rather have a kiddo who would enjoy it and like be
• 24:05
  interested in the hobby then like what do I need?
• 24:07
  Another 3 pins? You know what I need?
• 24:10
  I'm far more interested. And I think this is the general
• 24:12
  attitude of most people in the Disney pin trading community,
• 24:15
  right? Like I think everyone's just
• 24:16
  more interested in people being happy and enjoying the hobby
• 24:20
  then like, you know, the perfect trade, right?
• 24:22
  Like I've even traded with people when like they really
• 24:25
  wanted something that I had and like, even if they didn't had
• 24:27
  some have something that I particularly wanted.
• 24:29
  I'm like, this clearly means something to you, right?
• 24:31
  Like maybe Tigger's your favorite Disney character or
• 24:34
  like you're trading it for your mom who couldn't come on this
• 24:37
  trip or like it reminds you of your dad who's past like
• 24:40
  whatever it is. Like I, I think my we and pretty
• 24:43
  much everybody in like the, the like trading community feels the
• 24:47
  same way of like, yeah, man, I'll trade you this pin.
• 24:49
  I don't care if you don't have anything that I want this looks,
• 24:51
  this means something to you and that means something to me.
• 24:54
  You know what I mean? Yeah, I had an instance where I
• 24:56
  was meeting up with a a friend at the kind of entrance area to,
• 25:00
  to animal Kingdom. And we were standing there
• 25:03
  chatting and her husband went, you know, over to look at at the
• 25:05
  pin board and came back and ran over.
• 25:08
  He's like, I need a pin. She was like, OK, so you know,
• 25:10
  she handed him one and he came back and he found the last of a
• 25:14
  set that their their son was looking to complete.
• 25:18
  And he had seen it. It was on the board.
• 25:20
  And he was like, I got to make sure that I go get it for him,
• 25:22
  you know? So those types of things.
• 25:24
  Now you will also find people that maybe don't think that way,
• 25:28
  unfortunately, you know, you're always going to have that too.
• 25:31
  So just be aware of those types of things as well and just keep
• 25:35
  an eye out. But yeah, I, I definitely think
• 25:37
  that, you know, the, the whole purpose is to enjoy the
• 25:41
  collection and enjoy the hunt a little bit, you know, So the
• 25:45
  more that you can kind of feed into that, I think that the
• 25:48
  better time you're going to have with with pin collecting as a
• 25:51
  whole. Or don't or don't feed into it.
• 25:53
  Because then he turned into me neurotically running around
• 25:56
  Epcot trying to finish that. There was a collection that was
• 25:59
  like all of the old school Epcot logos and those are like
• 26:03
  unfortunately very commonly faked.
• 26:05
  Not that I super care about that.
• 26:06
  I wound up with like 14 of the living with the land looking
• 26:09
  ones and they're like all fake and I do not care.
• 26:12
  I mean, look at one point. Completed that collection like 5
• 26:15
  times over. Give me them.
• 26:18
  All I keep trading in hopes that like I will eventually be able
• 26:21
  to have one full real election. I'm not quite there, but like I
• 26:26
  will get there eventually, right?
• 26:28
  That's going to happen. And and like, that's part of the
• 26:30
  fun of the hunt, right? Like we'll talk about scrappers
• 26:32
  and fake ones later and everybody feels differently
• 26:34
  about it. It doesn't particularly bother
• 26:36
  me. It's not the end all be all, but
• 26:38
  I can some people feel differently and that's OK.
• 26:40
  So 100% it is about the hunt and it is the the fun and the joy of
• 26:44
  finding like that collection complete or or.
• 26:47
  Whatever for sure. Yeah, Yeah.
• 26:50
  And while we're talking about kind of where to get Pinzac in
• 26:52
  our live chat here as we're recording, did ask about eBay.
• 26:56
  I think you, you're really some of those eBay whatnot, Mercari,
• 27:00
  any of those resale sites, you got to be really careful.
• 27:04
  Now, if you don't care whether it's authentic or not, you just
• 27:08
  like the design of the PIN like Duck was mentioning earlier, go
• 27:12
  for it if you think it's a good price, but you're really rolling
• 27:15
  the dice on even some of those, you know, live what, not sales
• 27:19
  and stuff. People may think that they have
• 27:21
  authentic pins and they're really not.
• 27:23
  Or people may just know that they're not authentic and just
• 27:26
  claim they are anyway, you know, again, the world is a crazy
• 27:29
  place. You never really know online.
• 27:33
  So in person events are really your best bet if you're looking
• 27:36
  to trade and buying things authentically in box and package
• 27:40
  from Disney is you know, or one of these other retailers that we
• 27:43
  mentioned is your best way to kind of get started.
• 27:46
  Yeah, I haven't. I have a note in here that's
• 27:48
  like never buy the 1000 pins for $3 because not a one of them are
• 27:52
  real, right. Like yeah, right.
• 27:53
  And if that does not bother you for your collection, that's OK,
• 27:56
  right? But it is.
• 27:58
  And we'll talk more about pin etiquette later, but it is not
• 28:01
  appropriate pin etiquette to knowingly buy a fake pin and to
• 28:06
  put it into circulation, right? If you don't care for your
• 28:09
  collection, that's totally cool. Like I have AI have a bunch of
• 28:11
  fake ones that I don't care about because they just sit on
• 28:13
  my pin board and it doesn't bother me.
• 28:15
  But I would never knowingly put back into circulation fake pins.
• 28:20
  And that's just like good collection etiquette at large,
• 28:24
  right? No matter what it is, if you
• 28:25
  know you have a fake, it's not the right great thing to do to
• 28:28
  put it back out in circulation. So please, please, please do not
• 28:31
  buy those like here's 50,000 Disney pins for $8, right?
• 28:35
  They're always a scan. They're not real.
• 28:37
  They're not real like it. And you're just going to get
• 28:40
  like a bad quality product and they're fake and that's not fair
• 28:44
  and put back out into the collection.
• 28:46
  So that's my soapbox moment for that.
• 28:48
  Yes. And again, we'll talk more about
• 28:49
  scrappers here in a minute, but where else, Jess, can we find
• 28:53
  the real pins that we want to actually have?
• 28:56
  The not fake ones, the not 1000 thousand. $15 Some other sites
• 29:01
  to find authentic tradable Disney pins would be Disney pins
• 29:06
  Blog. He has a quite the variety of
• 29:10
  pins. He even has like exclusive pins
• 29:12
  to like his shop that he's partnered with other, you know,
• 29:15
  to make. But he does, you know, have a
• 29:18
  variety of pins, sometimes older pins and then Disney pins for
• 29:20
  you is also another site. They run sales all the time, but
• 29:23
  they have a pretty wide variety of pins as well.
• 29:26
  So those are good places. We've purchased from both of
• 29:28
  them many times sometimes, yeah. So if you want FIFA pins
• 29:33
  especially I feel like Disney pins for you is good.
• 29:35
  If you want like to get a bunch to trade because they are pretty
• 29:38
  reasonably priced, but they all have that we have gotten have
• 29:41
  been authentic pins. I would.
• 29:43
  Recommend if you're looking for something that's older that's
• 29:48
  like you're a collection complete or maybe Disney pins
• 29:50
  blog is a good bet. And then if you're looking for
• 29:53
  like collection fillers, right, you're like, I don't really have
• 29:55
  anything of this character. I'm looking for something to
• 29:57
  trade Disney pins for you is good.
• 30:00
  And if you are looking Disney pins for you is also great for a
• 30:03
  database, right? Like I have a bunch of pins here
• 30:06
  that like I had gotten along the way.
• 30:08
  I purchased them, but I didn't know anything about them or like
• 30:11
  I got them off of a board and they have a great, great, great
• 30:15
  database. So they are super good for
• 30:17
  because even if they don't have it in stock, they have some
• 30:19
  information on it. So it's like a good place to
• 30:22
  find out more about your PIN, yeah.
• 30:24
  Yeah, that's helpful. And that's Disney pins the
• 30:27
  number four and the letter U. So all kind of 1, you know,
• 30:33
  screen name type one word all together.
• 30:35
  So Disney pins the number 4, the letter U and then Disney pins
• 30:38
  blog is just your normal normal spelling.
• 30:43
  Also want to shout out his YouTube channel if you're, like,
• 30:45
  looking to get into pins and pin trading.
• 30:47
  He posts like Disney pin news and about, like events and
• 30:50
  things like that that are happening in the park.
• 30:51
  So if you're like, looking to get into it but not really sure
• 30:54
  where to go, that's like a good starting point.
• 30:55
  He's got a lot of yeah. And we can definitely link,
• 30:59
  yeah, we can definitely link his YouTube in our show description.
• 31:02
  So if you're listening to this later to take a look at that, if
• 31:05
  you're like, oh, that sounds interesting or I want to take a
• 31:07
  look, I will be sure to put his his channel in our description.
• 31:11
  He also has a podcast. It's, it's like a fine just on
• 31:14
  top of the podcast for no reason at all as you're listening.
• 31:17
  I wonder why? Unrelated to the current
• 31:20
  activity, he has a podcast that he puts out couple days a week
• 31:24
  that's just like, it's just quick 5 minute news updates as
• 31:27
  soon as anything happens. Like he'll kind of concatenate a
• 31:30
  couple days worth of news together, you know, just sort of
• 31:33
  like release upcoming releases or pin news or something like
• 31:37
  that. So it's, it's he's, I totally
• 31:40
  second what Jess said. He's a great resource.
• 31:42
  I I really have enjoyed and appreciated his content over the
• 31:45
  years. Excellent, love that.
• 31:48
  And then the last note on where to get Disney pins is Disney
• 31:53
  Stores or Disney Outlets if you're lucky enough to still
• 31:55
  have one. I don't think there is a single
• 31:57
  Disney Store in the state of New Jersey anymore, but we all know
• 32:01
  Jackie has one out. There no, I'm very lucky and I I
• 32:05
  don't like to rub it in, but I am very lucky that I can't.
• 32:08
  And now I'm like I. Know I was just there today
• 32:13
  honestly, I went today because I wanted to see if they had any
• 32:16
  pins that I could like use for an example of like, hey, this is
• 32:18
  what my outlet has right now. I didn't they didn't have any
• 32:20
  great ones. They had some that were full
• 32:22
  price, but they didn't have any clearance pins.
• 32:24
  But I can find from from time to time and it it ebbs and flows
• 32:28
  because the, the stock of my Disney Store kind of comes in
• 32:32
  and out. There is one in Pennsylvania
• 32:35
  that's probably a few hours away from you where you guys are.
• 32:38
  But but like, I know I was able to find the the entire stitch
• 32:44
  eats collection that they did. So like this pin.
• 32:47
  This is an Angel pin where angel's holding a churro was a
• 32:51
  part of a set that I got on clearance there.
• 32:55
  So I got, I got both of my kiddos one of those sets to like
• 33:00
  help start their collecting and their trading as like, hey, I
• 33:05
  know these pins are cheap in in comparison and you may or may
• 33:11
  not want to keep them and that's totally fine.
• 33:13
  But like they're cheap pins that we know are authentic pins to
• 33:16
  get you started. My oldest traded away all of
• 33:20
  those. My youngest still has that Angel
• 33:21
  one on her little little pin set because she's like, no, I like
• 33:26
  this one. It's like, OK, that's totally
• 33:28
  fine. Feel free to keep it.
• 33:29
  But this is just this is what I could find that was on
• 33:32
  clearance. So it was a cheaper in to the to
• 33:36
  the Disney pin trading. Yeah, yeah, they will definitely
• 33:39
  get a lot of clearance pins. Sometimes like limited edition
• 33:43
  pins are like different collections that were released
• 33:45
  in the park. Those pins will kind of make
• 33:47
  their way to the outlet. So if you have one near you,
• 33:50
  definitely check there for like Jackie said, some good cheap
• 33:53
  pins. Yeah, so let's talk about
• 33:56
  carrying and transporting pins, because it's great if you have
• 34:01
  them at home, but what in the world are you supposed to do
• 34:03
  with them when you get to the parks if that's the OR to one of
• 34:06
  these events? Jackie, you hold them in your
• 34:08
  arms. What else would you do?
• 34:11
  How else could you possibly transport so many pins?
• 34:15
  Let me tell you because I have got.
• 34:17
  To say to learn. So the most common way that you
• 34:22
  will find that people like to display pins or have pins to
• 34:27
  trade are on lanyards. So that is again the most
• 34:31
  common. You'll see lots of people in the
• 34:33
  parks that have them. They can get a little heavy and
• 34:36
  a little bulky depending on how many pins you have on them.
• 34:40
  So keep that in mind. If you've got a kiddo that maybe
• 34:44
  only has six or seven, probably not a bad idea.
• 34:47
  If you get too many more than that, it becomes a little
• 34:50
  cumbersome for kiddos to have and to carry and like.
• 34:54
  The pins themselves are not super big, but when you get a
• 34:58
  couple of them and then you get a couple more and then you buy a
• 35:01
  couple more because they're cool, they get real heavy.
• 35:04
  Sometimes they are kind of big. I know our viewers, the
• 35:08
  listeners can't see it, but there is, it's a good like 2
• 35:12
  inch by two inch square of Mr. Potato Head that I have.
• 35:15
  And that was a, a mystery pin that we got in Toy Story Land a
• 35:19
  couple years ago. And like if you loaded up with
• 35:21
  enough of these, right? Like all it takes is three of
• 35:23
  these and suddenly it's very heavy, especially for a kiddo.
• 35:27
  Yes. So consider your kiddos
• 35:29
  tolerance to be able to hold that also like if it's really
• 35:31
  hot out, they may not want to have the lanyard stick into
• 35:34
  their neck as you're walking around.
• 35:36
  So just consider that. But there are some of these
• 35:39
  really great Pinfolio boards from gopinpro.com, not
• 35:45
  sponsored, just really like their products.
• 35:47
  They've they've got they've kind of they're kind of the go to
• 35:51
  when it comes to some of this. So what I'm holding here, if you
• 35:54
  can see me, is kind of like a foamy like board that they have
• 35:58
  where you can just stick the pins directly into it.
• 36:02
  And they've got a bunch of different sizes.
• 36:03
  They've got like tiny little 2 inch sizes.
• 36:05
  This one I think is like a 5 inch size maybe if I remember
• 36:09
  correctly, but they've got ones that are this size.
• 36:11
  They've got ones that are like full, you know, 8 by 10 size.
• 36:14
  They've got all sorts of different products on there, but
• 36:17
  these boards are really nice because they can slide into a
• 36:21
  park bag really easily and they even also have some of these
• 36:24
  that have like a like a clear plastic zip lock that'll go over
• 36:28
  top of it to protect them from weather, things like that.
• 36:32
  You can also find some of these that will slide into display
• 36:37
  bags, which is the next thing that I wanted to talk about
• 36:39
  because you can find a lot of those where they'll have like a
• 36:44
  clear front to it. I have this little tiny kind of
• 36:47
  wristlet one which if you can see what I'm talking about, it's
• 36:50
  just a little wristlet that's honestly a little bit even
• 36:54
  smaller than the the pin board that I was just showing you
• 36:56
  guys. But this is nice because this
• 36:58
  front little panel right here slides out of that clear
• 37:02
  plastic, which is really nice. So I will use this for like my
• 37:07
  traders whenever I go. I am not a huge pin person, but
• 37:10
  I've got just a handful that I usually try to go to the parks
• 37:15
  with typically just to look for things that my kids will like or
• 37:18
  look for. I'm very particular about what I
• 37:21
  what I collect and we'll talk about what that that is like
• 37:25
  should be more particular. But like they've got little
• 37:29
  wristlets, there are backpacks, there are cross shoulder, you
• 37:32
  know, bags, there are little Fanny pack style.
• 37:35
  There's all sorts of different bags depending on what your
• 37:38
  preference is. I do suggest if you're looking
• 37:41
  for a bag that you're going to be like carrying as your park
• 37:45
  bag, but also will serve as a pin bag to have one that has
• 37:48
  this kind of like plastic front to it.
• 37:52
  Because you will find, and Disney even has them that they
• 37:55
  market like little crossbody bags that don't have that.
• 37:59
  And it just worries me of like things falling off.
• 38:02
  You know, if you've got that clear plastic front, it's going
• 38:05
  to catch it if it does happen to come off or fall off.
• 38:08
  Now Disney does send like or does sell like locking pin backs
• 38:14
  and little packages and stuff that you can get to.
• 38:16
  If you're planning to like more permanently display things on
• 38:19
  like a Jean jacket or a bag or a lanyard or whatever kind of
• 38:24
  deal, they do sell those as well.
• 38:27
  But I would suggest having some sort of a cover just to help
• 38:30
  protect your pins and to mostly to keep them from like escaping
• 38:34
  and falling, falling apart and and and falling off never to be
• 38:37
  seen again. I can't tell you how many pins I
• 38:39
  found on the floor in the parks because they just fall off of
• 38:42
  lanyards or fall out of bags or out of pockets.
• 38:45
  Especially since Disney has gone from here.
• 38:49
  Let me show you an example to our our viewing audience and I
• 38:52
  will describe it to our listeners.
• 38:54
  So there are ones that have are sort of like the classic clasp
• 38:59
  ones, little butterfly, thank you, butterfly clasp.
• 39:02
  And so they are going to where like you have to kind of push in
• 39:07
  and then pull back to release it, right?
• 39:09
  So there's it's like a locking mechanism without being the full
• 39:12
  locking, right? Have gone to for a lot of these
• 39:15
  as I throw my pins all around. Is this exactly That's exactly
• 39:19
  right. The rubber stick back one.
• 39:21
  And that's good because it's like a tight fit.
• 39:24
  But if you have been like kind of pulling it on and off and
• 39:28
  whatever, or you stick it wrong, like a little bit weird.
• 39:31
  Snagging on something? Right, exactly.
• 39:33
  Or snagging on something like the Butterfly 1.
• 39:36
  Like you cannot pull it off without great force unless
• 39:40
  you're like pull like pushing on the closure.
• 39:42
  Specifically the plasticky one. The rubber one just falls right
• 39:47
  off. So agreed, if you are interested
• 39:50
  in keeping those pins long term, you care about them very deeply.
• 39:53
  Locking pin back is 100% the way to go.
• 39:56
  I got a lot of like 500 of them on Amazon years ago for like 20
• 40:00
  bucks. Yeah, I'm in the parks.
• 40:02
  They're. They're they're very
• 40:04
  inexpensive. If you're in a bind and you're
• 40:06
  in a bind, get up. But yeah, you, if you can plan
• 40:09
  ahead and order those ahead, that will save you.
• 40:11
  That'll save you a penny or two, yeah.
• 40:13
  And I can attest to the fact that they are fantastic because
• 40:16
  I have a Jean jacket that has pins that haven't come off of
• 40:19
  them in almost 10 years. So yes, locking backs are great
• 40:22
  for literal permanency. So yes.
• 40:25
  Yes, absolutely. So kind of going back to the pin
• 40:28
  bags, do keep in mind that some people like to keep their pin
• 40:32
  bags just as display for like, look how pretty my collection
• 40:36
  is. Look how cool it looks like, or
• 40:38
  like if they're bounding, like look at all these pins that I
• 40:40
  have that match my bound outfit that I'm doing today.
• 40:43
  And then they may carry like something else that has their
• 40:45
  traders on it. So just ask, like Duck mentioned
• 40:48
  earlier, you just got to ask like, hey, I see you've got a
• 40:51
  ton of pins. I would love to see what you
• 40:53
  have available to trade. And they may say, oh, anything
• 40:56
  you see here is available to trade or they may say, oh, let
• 40:58
  me grab my lanyard out or you know, those types of things.
• 41:01
  So again, you just got to ask. I apologize to the the the
• 41:05
  people that get social anxiety because I feel that.
• 41:08
  However, if you want to trade, you just got to ask.
• 41:13
  And again, people are generally nice about it.
• 41:16
  I've never had anybody that like bit my head off for at that
• 41:19
  right, People are may decline, right, because they could have
• 41:22
  it as like their collection on display or like maybe they're
• 41:25
  just like all traded out for the day and they have everything
• 41:27
  that they wanted. I've totally had people decline.
• 41:29
  You say, okay, no problem, enjoy the rest of your park day,
• 41:31
  right? Like it's like truly.
• 41:33
  But I know there's like some nefarious actors, right?
• 41:36
  As there is in any hobby. And not everybody is nice.
• 41:39
  But there does seem to be like a specific core around the type of
• 41:42
  people who are drawn to pin trading as an activity that
• 41:46
  generally they are on the kinder side.
• 41:49
  And even if they're not interested in engaging in that
• 41:51
  very moment, they will politely decline.
• 41:53
  So even if it is a little awkward for you to get into the
• 41:55
  habit of asking to pin trade, really it's it's it's good
• 41:59
  social practice for everyone out there who wigs out at social
• 42:02
  interacting like myself. And which I know may be shocking
• 42:06
  from how much I love talking on the spot fast, I am, I am an
• 42:10
  anxious, anxious human. But yeah, I know it's people are
• 42:14
  generally pretty kind surrounding accepting or
• 42:17
  declining pin trading. Yeah, and if you're really
• 42:20
  worried about it, then just stick to asking cast members.
• 42:23
  Yeah, Yeah. You know, because this won't
• 42:25
  decline, right? Yeah.
• 42:27
  I mean, like, like we mentioned, the pins that they have on them
• 42:30
  are likely given to them by management for trading or
• 42:33
  they're working at a location that has a pin board for
• 42:36
  trading. So that's your best bet.
• 42:38
  I will also say that, yeah, I I am also an anxious person when
• 42:42
  it comes to that kind of thing. But it is also a really great
• 42:45
  teachable moment for kids to kind of teach them some of that
• 42:49
  social interaction. Because in a day and age of
• 42:51
  screens in the Internet, you know, it's, it's a great thing
• 42:55
  to like, OK, we're going to walk up here.
• 42:57
  Ask them politely. May I please see your pins and
• 43:01
  then you can look and then when you're done, you need to say
• 43:03
  thank you so much for your time, you know, and then we can walk
• 43:07
  away. So just those little things,
• 43:08
  just my mom moment is it's very helpful because even my kids,
• 43:13
  you know, you get excited and they went to walk away and I was
• 43:15
  like, well, we'll stop, say thank you.
• 43:17
  Now we can walk away. Yeah, no.
• 43:21
  So especially with how much there there is constantly going
• 43:24
  on at the parks, right. Like it's a good moment to have
• 43:27
  kiddos or younger humans that are with you in general just
• 43:30
  take that moment to slow down and thank the people who are
• 43:33
  there making the magic. And, you know, thank, thank
• 43:36
  people for their kind interaction.
• 43:37
  So totally agree. And I think that makes complete
• 43:39
  sense. Yeah.
• 43:41
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 43:42
  A couple other ways that you will find people carrying pins
• 43:45
  around. You will find people that have
• 43:47
  gigantic binders full of pins. They're not super convenient to
• 43:52
  carry around in the parks. So you'll find those allotted
• 43:55
  events or you'll find those a lot at those kind of designated
• 43:58
  pin trading locations. So like that Epcot location,
• 44:01
  people bring their binders in and they just flop them all out
• 44:04
  on the on the tables for people to look through.
• 44:07
  So it really just depends. But typically you're not going
• 44:10
  to see a ton of those big kind of cumbersome binders in the
• 44:13
  parks. But those are really good for
• 44:15
  like organizing your sets at home and kind of seeing what
• 44:18
  you've got or, you know, putting things by character or by by
• 44:22
  collection, those types of things for binders.
• 44:26
  And then you can also just throw them in your bag, put them in a
• 44:29
  zip lock. You know, you don't have to have
• 44:31
  something fancy to be able to pin trade.
• 44:33
  Like there's absolutely no rules when it comes to that.
• 44:36
  So whatever you've got that works is perfectly fine.
• 44:41
  And you may find people that that's what they do with their
• 44:44
  traders, right? So any pins that they're like,
• 44:46
  Yep, these ones are good to trade.
• 44:47
  I don't need to keep them. They'll throw them in a bag, zip
• 44:50
  lock them and, and throw them in their parks bag to make them
• 44:52
  super easily accessible. And it is always smart if you're
• 44:56
  someone who is collecting and also trading to kind of have
• 45:00
  those a little bit separate. So that way it's not confusing
• 45:03
  whenever you go to actually do trades or look at pinboards and
• 45:06
  things like that, it will help your brain remember what you're
• 45:10
  doing first of all. But it also will help anybody
• 45:13
  who's coming to look at your collection to trade.
• 45:16
  No, like, OK, these are all available as traders.
• 45:19
  So however you want to separate those, if it's a plastic bag, if
• 45:22
  it's a little, you know, pinfolio board or whatever you
• 45:25
  want to do with that, it is good to have those kind of separate
• 45:28
  in your stash of pins. And it's so funny when you say
• 45:33
  have because that's usually what we'll do.
• 45:35
  So I'll have, you know, we'll each have like a couple on a
• 45:36
  lanyard to like indicate that we're interested in trading.
• 45:40
  And then it's very funny when you reach into the park bag and
• 45:42
  you're like, I have a couple more and seeing especially a
• 45:45
  kiddos face light up, like I've never seen so many pins in one
• 45:50
  place. Like you can just see like the
• 45:52
  wiring like malfunction there for a second.
• 45:54
  It's it's a lot of fun. And also like, I don't know if
• 45:57
  somebody really wants the one that I have on my lanyard, of
• 46:00
  course, but like I also like giving people the the variety.
• 46:03
  So not mandatory by any means, but like you said, Jackie, good
• 46:07
  way to bring a lot of pins in at once without really having to
• 46:11
  worry about, you know, how am I going to display 40 pins on a
• 46:17
  lanyard? You know what I mean?
• 46:18
  How am I going to have all this plastic bag Totally sufficient?
• 46:21
  OK, so once we get our pins into the park and we figure out where
• 46:25
  we're going to trade, let's talk about some kind of etiquette
• 46:30
  rules suggestions from Mom St. when it comes to pin trading.
• 46:35
  So Disney does list on their website some official rules and
• 46:39
  they are also their common sense rules and they feed well into
• 46:42
  the etiquette conversation. So we're going to go through
• 46:44
  those and then if it has any sidebars come up, we'll talk
• 46:48
  through that too. So the first and rule, of
• 46:52
  course, as I said up top earlier, ask please, please,
• 46:57
  please, please just ask whether it's a cast member, whether it's
• 47:02
  a guest, whether it's on a board.
• 47:05
  Before you start reaching your little thingies out to grab the
• 47:08
  pin that you want, pretty please always ask, may I pin trade?
• 47:13
  Is that pin available for trade some some version thereof?
• 47:17
  Can I see your pins? Can I look at your pins?
• 47:20
  Yep. And that's one of those things
• 47:21
  that with your little littles, you're going to have to prompt
• 47:24
  them because especially if you've got, you know, little
• 47:27
  elementary age, even my kids, you know, being six and eight,
• 47:29
  it's like, no, we got to ask. We can't just go up and go, I
• 47:32
  want this one and snatch it. That's not how that works.
• 47:35
  First of all, body bubbles, space.
• 47:39
  Do not invade someone's space. Do not reach for their pins.
• 47:42
  Even if they say yes, they may hand it to you if it is on their
• 47:46
  person. Do not reach and grab.
• 47:49
  With lanyards and sensitive areas.
• 47:53
  Yeah, like, please don't like, cast members often carry the
• 47:56
  little felt things on their head, like belt Pickles.
• 47:59
  Yeah, they will like kind of pull it off and show it to you.
• 48:02
  Or they may like, present it right?
• 48:04
  Like there's going to be some sort of step that is taken.
• 48:07
  Do not body bubble. Perfect, perfect way to describe
• 48:10
  it. Do not invade somebody'd
• 48:11
  personal space. And even once you have decided
• 48:15
  which one you want, if it is on somebody's body, please use your
• 48:19
  words. I would love to trade you for
• 48:22
  that Mickey pin right there and they can present it to you.
• 48:26
  You can do a switcheroo. All is well in the world.
• 48:30
  Congratulations, you've been traded respectfully and I love
• 48:33
  that. OK, so I know we talked about
• 48:38
  this earlier and I just want to re emphasize it again.
• 48:41
  Please only trade official Disney pins.
• 48:44
  There are special cases that Disney outlines for like
• 48:47
  affiliate pins, right? If it's a company that Disney
• 48:50
  owns, like ESPNABC, something in that family that is also a OK to
• 48:55
  trade but must be an official pin, can't trade a scrap,
• 49:00
  unknowingly trade a scrapper and which we'll talk again about
• 49:04
  scrappers. And in just a second.
• 49:05
  I know we keep saying like teeing it up, like it's this big
• 49:08
  topic of conversation, but and also please understand that it
• 49:13
  is at the cast members discretion if you were trading
• 49:15
  on a board to decline the trade. I mean, it's also at at, you
• 49:19
  know, if you're doing peer-to-peer trading, But I'm
• 49:22
  really talking more about like the cast member focus trading
• 49:24
  for this. It is at their discretion if
• 49:26
  they sit, if they are going to decline it.
• 49:28
  Like we said, some parks have very high standards.
• 49:30
  Some parks do not. Sometimes cast member will just
• 49:33
  use their discretion and be like, it's a child.
• 49:34
  I'm not going to say no to them over the scrapper pen, right?
• 49:37
  Like they clearly want this Epcot pin or the stitch pin or
• 49:40
  whatever I'm I'll take it. But understand that it is up to
• 49:45
  them to be able to say yes or no, even if it's on the.
• 49:47
  Boards yeah and keep in mind too that things like Star Wars pins,
• 49:51
  Marvel pins, any of those umbrella companies, you'll find
• 49:55
  those pins all over the parks, incest and mystery packs for
• 49:58
  sale. So a good rule of thumb is if
• 50:01
  you're concerned about like, oh, this is a you know I've seen
• 50:04
  people talk about like lounge fly pins.
• 50:07
  Well, if it's a Disney lounge fly and it's branded Disney,
• 50:12
  then you're good to go. So, you know, you just keep an
• 50:15
  eye out for what's for sale in those different, you know, the
• 50:19
  different places. And if you see it, then you know
• 50:21
  that you're good to go. Exactly.
• 50:23
  And a good rule of thumb, especially for like those lounge
• 50:26
  fly pins for our video guests, our video folks, I have, I have
• 50:30
  a pin that I'm going to show you, but I'll just describe it
• 50:32
  for the audio folks. So I have a, it's a Tiana's
• 50:36
  Place pin. It is a lounge fly pin that I
• 50:39
  had gotten in a mystery box. I purchased it from box lunch.
• 50:43
  But when you flip it around, the thing that really matters to pay
• 50:47
  attention to is here on the bottom, it's not super clear.
• 50:50
  There we go. But you have that copyright
• 50:52
  symbol and Disney that is like going to be your best bet of is
• 50:56
  the something that I can trade in the park.
• 50:58
  If it has the copyright Disney on the back, you are generally
• 51:02
  good to go, right? Because it can be any of those
• 51:04
  properties. Like we said, it could be ESPN,
• 51:06
  it could be a Marvel, it could be a Star Wars, it could be one
• 51:09
  of the princesses. But it come from box launch
• 51:11
  right? Like, right, so this is AC3PO
• 51:14
  pen that we got. I mean, we bought it in a
• 51:15
  mystery pack at Disney. But if you look on the backside,
• 51:19
  it's really tiny. But it's got not only the Star
• 51:23
  Wars logo, but if you look right underneath, it's got that
• 51:26
  copyright Disney. So even though it's Star Wars
• 51:30
  and it's got the Star Wars name on it, it's still copyright
• 51:33
  Disney. And that's what you want to look
• 51:34
  for because not all Lounge fly, you know, Disney doesn't own
• 51:39
  Lounge Fly. Lounge Fly doesn't only work
• 51:41
  with Disney and they do have other pins that they put out
• 51:44
  that are not Disney affiliated. So you always going to make sure
• 51:48
  that even if it is a lounge fly pin or a Marvel pin or something
• 51:51
  like that, you want to make sure that it has that Disney on it.
• 51:54
  Yeah, 100%. That is like an easy, surefire
• 51:57
  way to be. Like, do I think this can be
• 51:59
  tradable? It's got the copyright Disney.
• 52:01
  I'm good to go Yes. So a couple other official,
• 52:05
  official rules for pin trading as Disney has put out.
• 52:09
  Please only trade 1 pin at a time.
• 52:11
  It can get really hectic when you're like, I know it's like
• 52:14
  super exciting and you're like, I don't want somebody to get
• 52:18
  this one pin that I need for my collection before somebody else
• 52:21
  can get it. But also I see a second one that
• 52:23
  I need, right? Like I totally understand
• 52:26
  there's a lot going on. If as an adult it's over
• 52:28
  stimulating, I can only imagine how exciting it is for children,
• 52:31
  right? Like there's a lot going on.
• 52:33
  So I think it is a good opportunity to remind both the
• 52:36
  small children in your care and yourself as an adult 1 pin at a
• 52:40
  time. It is largely for safety.
• 52:42
  We don't need anyone getting overly excited and, and poking
• 52:45
  themselves with it or anything like that.
• 52:46
  So please trade 1 pin at a time. Now as far as again, like on the
• 52:53
  topic of eligibility for trading, right, like we said, as
• 52:55
  long as it's official Disney, but also please make sure your
• 52:58
  pins are in good condition, right?
• 53:00
  If you wouldn't want to receive it, please don't put it on the
• 53:03
  board. You know it is again, just like
• 53:07
  a general etiquette, general rule of thumb, if you don't want
• 53:10
  it in your collection because it is messed up, it got run over by
• 53:14
  the tram in the parking lot, right?
• 53:16
  Like you don't want it? Then do not put it on the board
• 53:19
  for somebody else to unknowingly take.
• 53:22
  Yeah, especially you'll find some, there are quite a few pins
• 53:25
  out in circulation that have like moving parts, things that
• 53:28
  slide side to side or up and down.
• 53:31
  Any that's broken or doesn't function, you know, be a kind
• 53:34
  individual, be a kind human. Like Duck said, if you wouldn't
• 53:37
  want to receive it, don't offer it for a trade, right?
• 53:42
  There is by the official Disney rules, a limit of 2 pins per
• 53:48
  cast member slash board per day. Some days they are super strict
• 53:54
  about it, some days they are not.
• 53:56
  Again, it's kind of up to the discretion of the cast member
• 53:59
  and they are going to read the situation and who is
• 54:01
  participating in that trade to the best of their ability.
• 54:04
  You know, if it's something that like it's happened to me once,
• 54:06
  right? Like they happen to have, I
• 54:08
  think it was 3 pins, three of those Epcot pins that I needed
• 54:11
  and there was nobody else like in line, like I wasn't taking a
• 54:14
  trading opportunity from somebody and the cast member was
• 54:17
  generous enough to allow me to trade 1/3 pin from that board
• 54:20
  for the day, right? You know, there's very a lot of
• 54:23
  understanding, but again, it's up to the cast members
• 54:24
  discretion for how strictly they're going to enforce that
• 54:27
  rule. So Disney does have the blanket
• 54:29
  rule of 2 pins per individual cast member or per individual
• 54:33
  board per day. Yeah.
• 54:35
  And I think the thing to remember about that is it
• 54:37
  technically is per day. So like yes, the boards can
• 54:40
  change throughout the day and you may see other pins pop up.
• 54:44
  Just be respectful of those around you, be respectful of the
• 54:47
  cast members and just keep that in mind that that is the the
• 54:51
  rule that Disney governs their pin trading by.
• 54:54
  Right. And it's to give folks an
• 54:56
  opportunity, right? If you are spending all day
• 54:58
  hanging out in Cava and the Mexico Pavilion and they have a
• 55:02
  pin board, it's not very fair for you to be able to just,
• 55:04
  like, snipe all the Super cool pins off of that board when
• 55:07
  maybe there's a kiddo who's just passing through to go see, you
• 55:10
  know, hang out on three cabs for a little bit.
• 55:12
  And they only get to pass through once, right.
• 55:14
  So that's why that rule is enforced.
• 55:15
  It's just to make sure that everybody gets an equal and fair
• 55:18
  chance at the cool pins that can pop up throughout the day.
• 55:21
  Yeah, now this one may come as a shock to people, but you cannot
• 55:27
  exchange pins for monetary gain within the pin trading.
• 55:32
  Why? They not suck and well, see, it
• 55:35
  can get ugly real quick. I don't know if you've just
• 55:40
  noticed behavior recently, but once money gets involved it gets
• 55:44
  weird. This is technically for the
• 55:47
  officially sanctioned, like in park trading.
• 55:50
  They do not forbid second hand selling, right?
• 55:54
  So like those places that we mentioned, those marketplaces,
• 55:56
  Disney pins for you, Disney pins blog, even trusted sellers on
• 56:01
  things like eBay. Again, be very careful on those
• 56:03
  platforms. That is not forbidden.
• 56:06
  But if you are trading with a cast member, you can't be like,
• 56:09
  I'm going to give you this pin and you're going to give me a
• 56:12
  $20 Disney gift card, right? Like that is not a thing that
• 56:15
  Disney permits. So anything that's like a gift
• 56:18
  card, I'm going to trade you this pin for sunglasses, a
• 56:22
  voucher of any kind. I've seen somebody try to get
• 56:26
  bribe their way into a lightning lane before with pins.
• 56:30
  Like I've seen some unruly behavior.
• 56:33
  So no, there is nothing to gain from pin trading except for
• 56:38
  another pin. That is the official Disney
• 56:40
  stance on that. Now also, I will just insert
• 56:43
  this in here because there's lots of conversation on the
• 56:47
  Internet about resellers. Do keep in mind that if you are
• 56:50
  someone that is planning to purchase pins to resell, again
• 56:56
  Disney does not have specifics on that.
• 56:59
  However, they do have specifics on using your annual pass
• 57:05
  discount or any other discount to get a pin and then turn
• 57:11
  around and sell it for profit. That is not allowed.
• 57:15
  Disney will not let you profit off of their name and off of
• 57:19
  their merchandise. So keep that in mind.
• 57:23
  You know, there's something to be said for, oh, I collected
• 57:26
  this collection. I never finished it.
• 57:28
  I'm not interested in in hanging on to it anymore or I'm going to
• 57:32
  go get this limited edition pin, pay for it with my AP discount,
• 57:36
  and then mark up the price to make money off of it.
• 57:39
  Big difference between the two. So just for those listening,
• 57:45
  keep that in mind. I'm going to keep my comments
• 57:49
  about flippers to myself. Yep, as a same and if.
• 57:52
  A great number of collecting hobbies.
• 57:55
  I have thoughts and feelings and I completely agree.
• 57:57
  There's a large distinction between this is just an item
• 58:00
  that I don't want anymore or I bought it and it kind of doesn't
• 58:03
  fit into my collection and I'm just going to sell it at like,
• 58:06
  you know, a reasonable amount. I just want my, I just want my
• 58:09
  what I paid back or what I paid plus $5 for gas or, you know, I
• 58:14
  want to cover Churro with it, right?
• 58:15
  There's a difference between that and I camped here for 48
• 58:19
  hours and punched Mickey Mouse in the face to be able to get
• 58:22
  this pin, right? Like huge difference between
• 58:25
  those two situations. And that's my thoughts on that.
• 58:28
  Yes. Which?
• 58:30
  Actually brings us pretty good into our next point, which is
• 58:34
  it's not an official Disney rule, but please be a good pin
• 58:38
  trading citizen, right? Except when somebody declines, a
• 58:42
  cast member man declined to trade for whatever reason,
• 58:45
  right? Maybe they're just like
• 58:46
  sprinting to go handle their situation.
• 58:49
  They cannot stop at that very moment and may decline.
• 58:52
  Maybe they see that you have a pin that is not within the
• 58:55
  confines of what is acceptable for a trade while on property.
• 58:59
  Maybe people don't want to part with their pins.
• 59:01
  All of that is OK right? Like truly just use like common
• 59:05
  sense good human interactions when entering into this.
• 59:09
  Like pin trading agreement for lack of a better term.
• 59:13
  Yeah, if someone says no, that's a full sentence.
• 59:17
  So we're sad. Listen to them.
• 59:20
  You know, if they say I'm not interested or, you know, if you
• 59:23
  both have to see each other's pins and you find something and
• 59:26
  they're like, you don't really have anything I want, I'm so
• 59:28
  sorry, you know. OK, no problem.
• 59:30
  Thanks for thanks for checking out.
• 59:32
  And that's exactly right. Go on your merry way.
• 59:35
  That's it, you say have a great park day and then you just
• 59:38
  continue on and get yourself a churro, right?
• 59:40
  Like that is, we just move on and.
• 59:43
  They do not owe you a trade if that's not how the world works.
• 59:47
  So keep that in mind. And you need to prompt your kids
• 59:51
  for that too. Your kids need to understand
• 59:53
  that they're they are likely going to be trading with
• 59:57
  potentially with other kids, but likely with grown-ups who have
• 59:59
  invested a lot of money into this, especially if they're just
• 1:00:02
  starting. That was a conversation I had
• 1:00:03
  with my kids, like hey, as as that looks at their their
• 1:00:08
  collections behind them. But slowly moving the pins off
• 1:00:11
  the table. Who spends a lot of money?
• 1:00:13
  Not me. But that was a conversation I
• 1:00:16
  had with my kiddos like hey, first of all, it's OK to not see
• 1:00:19
  something that you want. Even if you're looking at
• 1:00:21
  boards, that from the, the, the cast members are looking at
• 1:00:24
  lanyards, like, Hey, can I see your pins doesn't mean you're,
• 1:00:27
  you're locked into a trade. And the same way that if someone
• 1:00:31
  asks to see yours and you say yes, doesn't mean you're locked
• 1:00:33
  into a trade. And that's a conversation that
• 1:00:35
  you, you need to have because that is just the way that the
• 1:00:37
  world of, of pin trading works when it comes to, to
• 1:00:41
  collectibles. So kind of prompting your kiddos
• 1:00:43
  and, and remembering yourself that like, just because we're
• 1:00:46
  checking each other's stuff out, doesn't mean that we're, we're
• 1:00:49
  locked into a trade 100% All right.
• 1:00:54
  So I think that gives us a good basis on the etiquette and the
• 1:01:00
  rules. Again, be a kind person, be a
• 1:01:02
  kind human. But let's talk about the
• 1:01:07
  scrappers because we've been, we've been hinting at it this
• 1:01:11
  whole time. Let's talk about scrapper pins,
• 1:01:15
  what that means, What are we looking for?
• 1:01:17
  Just help us out. Will do so the term scrapper
• 1:01:21
  came about because the first kind of legitimate like scrapper
• 1:01:26
  pins as they were that started entering the pin trading sphere
• 1:01:30
  were literally pins that were like scrapped from the official
• 1:01:33
  factories that were making the pins.
• 1:01:35
  So essentially they didn't pass the quality control and they
• 1:01:38
  were put off to the side to be discarded, melted down into
• 1:01:41
  other pins, what have you. But that didn't happen with
• 1:01:44
  these and they were kind of backdoor out of the factory and.
• 1:01:51
  It was Mission Impossible, but with.
• 1:01:53
  Ping. I just said it was that
• 1:01:54
  dramatic. But I mean, maybe Tom Cruise up
• 1:01:56
  a bit from the ceiling. I.
• 1:01:57
  Don't you never know you weren't there?
• 1:02:00
  Jess, that is true. I was there and you never know
• 1:02:02
  what Tom Cruise is doing so. At any.
• 1:02:05
  At any. Given moment, that man is up to
• 1:02:07
  something. I just know it, yeah.
• 1:02:09
  So, yeah, so those things did not get thrown out or recycled
• 1:02:12
  as they were supposed to. And then they typically end up
• 1:02:15
  online on eBay in large lots like Duck said, where they're
• 1:02:19
  selling them for like 1000 pins for like $3.
• 1:02:23
  And people kind of unknowingly purchase these pins is I think
• 1:02:29
  really how it initially started. They did just didn't realize
• 1:02:31
  what it was, got a bunch of these pins, started trading them
• 1:02:33
  around in the parks and then now they are just kind of in
• 1:02:37
  circulation in the parks. It's honestly, if you're going
• 1:02:40
  to go in and trade on cast member boards, lanyards, what
• 1:02:43
  have you, it is like just something to kind of expect that
• 1:02:46
  you might most likely get a fake pin because they have kind of
• 1:02:50
  very widely been circulated and that is a lot of what is in the
• 1:02:54
  parks. Let's be clear, you will end up
• 1:02:56
  with a fake right at some point in is trading endeavor.
• 1:02:59
  Is what it is. There is there are so many out
• 1:03:01
  there. They continue to make them
• 1:03:03
  right. It's not like it was a select
• 1:03:04
  lot and then we fixed it. Just we'll talk more about it.
• 1:03:06
  But like this just simply is a fact of the collecting hobby.
• 1:03:10
  It is. Yeah, and it's been a thing in
• 1:03:13
  pin collecting for so long. And the people that start in the
• 1:03:16
  pin collecting don't realize that that's even a thing until
• 1:03:20
  they're too far into it. So there's it's, it's really
• 1:03:23
  hard to kind of get ahead of the ball on that one.
• 1:03:27
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  So and then, you know, from there, some of the molds to make
• 1:03:33
  the pins actually ended up getting stolen or copied.
• 1:03:36
  And then people started producing cheaper, lower quality
• 1:03:40
  pins that were replicas of the exact pins that were being sold
• 1:03:44
  in the parks or limited edition pins and things like that.
• 1:03:47
  This happens a lot with the Hidden Mickey Pass, so that the
• 1:03:51
  that series, which is exactly what it sounds like, right?
• 1:03:54
  It's like a character and then somewhere on that little pin of
• 1:03:57
  the character, there's a little Mickey somewhere on there.
• 1:03:59
  I'm trying to see if I have one right in front of me.
• 1:04:01
  I don't know if I can do to show our visual audience.
• 1:04:04
  Perfect. That's exactly right.
• 1:04:06
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 1:04:07
  And the Scrapper and it is. And we'll talk about yes, and
• 1:04:10
  we'll talk about more, but that is the series for the visual
• 1:04:12
  folks. The little tiny silver Mickey
• 1:04:15
  head on it. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:04:18
  And so for our audio only folks, that's exactly right.
• 1:04:20
  Somewhere in the pins design, there's just a tiny little
• 1:04:24
  silver or usually they're silver or red like some some way to
• 1:04:27
  stand out just a little Mickey head, right.
• 1:04:29
  Like it's just a fun little little cute thing.
• 1:04:32
  But Disney mass produced them and then seemingly like lost
• 1:04:36
  control of the factory. And.
• 1:04:38
  Then the molds got stolen. They get stolen for almost all
• 1:04:41
  of these and they are the most commonly faked series of pins
• 1:04:46
  and they continue to be made. It's still a series that Disney
• 1:04:49
  sells. They'll like switch up the
• 1:04:51
  characters that are available. They are like also on the
• 1:04:54
  cheaper end of Disney pins themselves.
• 1:04:57
  So they just end up all over the place and it's just a very
• 1:05:01
  easily faked series of pins. So how do we spot a scrapper
• 1:05:06
  pin? How do I know that my pin is
• 1:05:08
  fake? Sometimes it is really hard to
• 1:05:10
  determine if the pin is a scrapper or if it's just kind of
• 1:05:13
  a low quality pin that somehow made it for the quality
• 1:05:17
  controls. We have literally purchased pins
• 1:05:20
  from the parks that look like they would have been like, pull
• 1:05:24
  them out of a mystery box and it looks like a fake pin.
• 1:05:27
  There are imperfections in the enamel design.
• 1:05:31
  There are, you know, issues with the Mickey waffling on the back,
• 1:05:35
  the Mickey waffling. It's like the little Mickey
• 1:05:37
  heads that are on the backs of the pins.
• 1:05:39
  That is the most common nowadays for pins that are being sold in
• 1:05:44
  the parks. But some older pins didn't have
• 1:05:46
  that. They didn't introduce that until
• 1:05:48
  a few years ago. So there's still pins that are
• 1:05:51
  official that don't have that. A lot of these scrapper pins do
• 1:05:54
  have the copyright Disney on the back, especially the ones that
• 1:05:57
  are made from the molds of, you know, that were kind of stolen
• 1:06:00
  from factories, right? So a lot of them do have aspects
• 1:06:03
  that can seem a little bit legit, but some pretty good
• 1:06:07
  indicators and signs that the pin that you have is a scrapper
• 1:06:12
  is if it's made of a thinner kind of poor quality metal than
• 1:06:15
  the official pins. So typically the official Disney
• 1:06:19
  pins will be like a super thick, super like sturdy, you know,
• 1:06:24
  metal material. Something else to look for is
• 1:06:28
  having the unclear writing or make you waffle patterns on the
• 1:06:32
  back. I wish there was good a good
• 1:06:35
  example of this but Or do you have an example of the Mickey
• 1:06:38
  waffling? Yeah, so I do have an example of
• 1:06:40
  the Mickey waffling. So again, sorry for our visual
• 1:06:42
  folks, but as we were describing earlier, the Mickey Mickey
• 1:06:45
  waffling is a stamping of a Mickey pattern on the back of
• 1:06:50
  the pins. And here I have one.
• 1:06:52
  Don't I have one of the legit. You could just open that one.
• 1:06:54
  Oh yeah, the you're good. So this is one that we're fairly
• 1:07:00
  sure is a scrapper. You can, it's really hard to see
• 1:07:03
  visually. And for folks who are listening
• 1:07:05
  or even like doing video you, it's a good call for you to go
• 1:07:10
  look up photos because there's bajillions of them on the
• 1:07:12
  Internet and they're very clear at pointing out what is and is
• 1:07:17
  not good waffling and good edging and good coloring for
• 1:07:22
  these pins. So we're describing them to you
• 1:07:24
  here. And if you can see the video,
• 1:07:26
  we're going to show you as best as we can.
• 1:07:27
  But truly, like, there are some fantastic resources out there in
• 1:07:31
  regards to helping you identify scrapper pins.
• 1:07:33
  So this is a good example of a real pin.
• 1:07:35
  So this is a Halloween pin from a couple years ago with stitch
• 1:07:38
  or mochi dressed up as stitch. On the back there is the
• 1:07:43
  waffling pattern. Everything is evenly spaced.
• 1:07:47
  The writing is all neat, evenly spaced.
• 1:07:50
  It might be tiny, but it is still legible.
• 1:07:53
  A lot of the times it'll be very hard to read these pins on the
• 1:07:56
  back to see the dates, the names.
• 1:07:57
  Things might be spelled wrong or like the letters might be very
• 1:08:02
  far, like spaced out on the backs of these pins that are
• 1:08:06
  fake. So those are just kind of some
• 1:08:08
  telltale things to look for on the backs of the pins, on the
• 1:08:11
  front of the pins. The enamel, most official Disney
• 1:08:14
  pins, there are a few exceptions to this, but most of them are
• 1:08:17
  made with this kind of harder enamel.
• 1:08:20
  So it has kind of like a matte finish to it.
• 1:08:23
  But then when you have a scrapper pin, a lot of those are
• 1:08:26
  made with a softer enamel. So sometimes you'll see little
• 1:08:28
  like divots in it or a little like bubbling on the top.
• 1:08:34
  So that's kind of a good way to tell if it has that like shinier
• 1:08:37
  finish to it too. You can kind of see as the thing
• 1:08:41
  if you can see the pin. The one that I, yeah, the one
• 1:08:44
  that I've got is a a mermaid pen, but you can see if I can
• 1:08:49
  catch the light, you can tell how kind of shiny that is on the
• 1:08:53
  front. This one also, you can really
• 1:08:55
  feel the the ridges. And I know that's something that
• 1:08:58
  we'll talk about here, but like this one is very much clearly a
• 1:09:02
  scrapper. But again, my daughter was like,
• 1:09:04
  oh, that's one of Ariel's sisters.
• 1:09:06
  I want that pin. Cool kid, go for it.
• 1:09:08
  And that's what matters, right? Like this pin that I was showing
• 1:09:10
  you as an example is an Epcot pin.
• 1:09:13
  And there was just no way I wasn't going to have it in my
• 1:09:15
  collection. Like, I do not care if it's
• 1:09:17
  fake, right? Like it's not fake in the sense
• 1:09:20
  that it's not a real object for you to add to the collection,
• 1:09:23
  right? Like I completely understand and
• 1:09:26
  respect pin traders who have a hard line stance of I do not
• 1:09:30
  want scrappers in my collection. That is totally cool.
• 1:09:32
  That is how you choose to collect and that is 100%
• 1:09:35
  acceptable. I choose to collect the designs
• 1:09:38
  that I like and as in my opinion for my collection, as long as
• 1:09:42
  I'm not purchasing it and directly supporting the people
• 1:09:45
  who have stolen these molds or who are faking it, like I'm not
• 1:09:49
  directly contributing to that economy.
• 1:09:52
  I just picked this off of a pin board because I liked the design
• 1:09:55
  and it's going to stay in my collection, right?
• 1:09:57
  I'm not going to put this back out into the world.
• 1:09:59
  So an unsuspecting kid or even an unsuspecting adult who's new
• 1:10:02
  to the pin trading world is going to end up with this.
• 1:10:04
  This stays with me on my pin board at home and that's like my
• 1:10:08
  comfort zone or trading so. Sometimes what I'll do if I end
• 1:10:12
  up with a pin that is probably a scrapper, but not something that
• 1:10:16
  I want in my collection anymore. If I'm doing like an online
• 1:10:19
  trade with somebody, I'll like throw it in there as like a
• 1:10:20
  little extra and write a note like probably fake.
• 1:10:22
  But if it's with, you know, what you have or your collection or
• 1:10:25
  what you were looking for. So, like, my gift to you, here
• 1:10:28
  you go. Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  And then, you know, they know it's not a real pin.
• 1:10:31
  It's not something that they can go back and trade.
• 1:10:33
  But it's just something a little extra thought of you.
• 1:10:36
  You know, this reminded me of your collection.
• 1:10:37
  So I thought it, you know, might have a better home with you.
• 1:10:39
  Yeah, absolutely. And we used to sell a lot of
• 1:10:43
  stuff on eBay, right, like just like, you know, pops and stuff
• 1:10:46
  like that, not flipper stuff. Let me be clear, we don't do
• 1:10:49
  flipping. That's not our vibe here, right?
• 1:10:51
  So it was just a lot of stuff that like we had amassed over
• 1:10:54
  the years and like truly when we were moving, like I we just
• 1:10:57
  could not fit everything into a condo that we each individually
• 1:11:01
  fit in our parents whole houses, right?
• 1:11:03
  Like it was not happening. So a lot of like, as we were
• 1:11:05
  downsizing the collections, like we also did that with pins like,
• 1:11:09
  you know, we would sell like, I don't know, like ABBA Funko Pop
• 1:11:14
  for $5 on eBay. And I'd throw a scrapper pin in
• 1:11:17
  there too, right? Because like, whatever, like
• 1:11:19
  it's ABB 8 pin, like, it doesn't matter, you know, enjoy it.
• 1:11:21
  It's just something extra and it's something that you clearly
• 1:11:24
  like, right. So in the same vein, like, I
• 1:11:26
  think that's a really good suggestion for uses for scrapper
• 1:11:29
  pins. Yeah.
• 1:11:32
  And also one other suggestion is that it goes really great to
• 1:11:36
  have them and if you are have children that are of age to be
• 1:11:39
  trusted with slightly pointy objects, let me put that
• 1:11:42
  disclaimer there. It put them in like goodie bags
• 1:11:44
  for birthday parties and stuff like those are always a big hit.
• 1:11:48
  So those are there are places, times and places for you to give
• 1:11:51
  out those pins, just maybe not an official Disney trade Disney
• 1:11:54
  pin trading capacity. Some people are crafty, kind of
• 1:11:57
  use them as like, embellishments on crafts.
• 1:11:59
  So yeah, I've seen that there's like, tutorials online where
• 1:12:02
  people use, you know, their scrapper pins for different
• 1:12:04
  things. So like there's all kinds of
• 1:12:06
  ways to use them and get them out of circulation in the parks,
• 1:12:08
  but also still get to enjoy them and appreciate them, you know,
• 1:12:12
  for having the fun characters that you enjoy on them.
• 1:12:16
  If you are, you know, kind of unsure, I think Duck kind of
• 1:12:18
  touched on this before. If a pin is fake or not, you can
• 1:12:21
  always Google it. There are definitely like the
• 1:12:23
  hidden Mickeys pins that are very commonly faked.
• 1:12:26
  So it is kind of easy to tell from a quick Google search.
• 1:12:29
  If you know there's a high probability of this pin being
• 1:12:31
  faked. People will say what to look out
• 1:12:33
  for. Sometimes there are certain pins
• 1:12:34
  that have a very specific thing to look for.
• 1:12:37
  Like there was a collection of limited edition pins.
• 1:12:40
  Those pins aren't as widely traded in the parks, but
• 1:12:42
  sometimes in like the Facebook groups are at events, the
• 1:12:45
  windows of magic pins. So these were the Disney
• 1:12:48
  princesses on like a stained glass window kind of design.
• 1:12:53
  And they were very popular, very sought after pins.
• 1:12:56
  They are making similar window series even to this day, and
• 1:12:59
  they're still very popular, so they were very widely faked.
• 1:13:02
  The. Villains ones were the best.
• 1:13:03
  That's my the Horned King one went so hard anyway.
• 1:13:07
  I have attractions ones this year, and I can't get my hands
• 1:13:10
  on them to save my life because they're so popular.
• 1:13:11
  But the Windows of Magic were, and the Windows of Evil runs
• 1:13:14
  too. They were all very widely faked.
• 1:13:16
  And the way to kind of tell if they were real was counting the
• 1:13:18
  Mickey heads across the back of the pin.
• 1:13:20
  So if there was a certain number, you knew it was real.
• 1:13:23
  If there was any more or any less, you knew that that was a
• 1:13:25
  scrapper version of the pin. So like some pins have things
• 1:13:28
  like that that are very specific.
• 1:13:29
  A Google search will tell there are a lot of you know, people on
• 1:13:32
  YouTube that do you know, in depth videos about how to spot
• 1:13:36
  scrappers and things like that. So just things to be aware of
• 1:13:39
  when you're going on your trip to the parks or trading at an
• 1:13:41
  event. Again, most people, you know, at
• 1:13:44
  events and stuff know not to put those pens that they know are
• 1:13:47
  scrappers into their traders. But like we also said, there are
• 1:13:51
  some people who are not always the best actors in these
• 1:13:53
  situations. So know what to look for, know
• 1:13:56
  what your kind of stance is. If you really like a pin enough,
• 1:13:59
  is it worth overlooking that it might be fake like ducks?
• 1:14:02
  Epcot pin here, you know, or are you, you know, very set on Nope,
• 1:14:07
  I want only, you know, authentic Disney pins in my collection.
• 1:14:11
  But it is something to just kind of expect when you're in the
• 1:14:13
  parks nowadays. Well, and a couple different
• 1:14:16
  things with that too. There are Facebook groups that
• 1:14:18
  exist. Whether or not you want to go
• 1:14:20
  down the rabbit hole of asking a Facebook group if your pin is
• 1:14:22
  real or not, that is your discretion.
• 1:14:25
  Some groups are nicer than others, yeah.
• 1:14:29
  So just keep that in mind. A really good bet if you're
• 1:14:32
  someone that's starting and you find one of these in person
• 1:14:34
  events is to take some pins there and ask the people there.
• 1:14:39
  And you know, like, like we mentioned, when people go to
• 1:14:41
  those events, they're typically really nice people.
• 1:14:43
  And they're like, if you go into it saying like, Hey, I'm new to
• 1:14:46
  this. Can you help me look at these
• 1:14:48
  pins and tell me what I have? Like, you know, I, I got these
• 1:14:52
  from a trusted site. I just want to double check or
• 1:14:55
  can you inform me or like, I know this is a scrapper.
• 1:14:58
  Can you help me figure out like, you know, show me what I need to
• 1:15:00
  know about it. You know, those types of things.
• 1:15:03
  Again, you never know, you may run into someone who doesn't
• 1:15:07
  want to take the time to help you, but chances are good,
• 1:15:09
  especially those in person events that you're going to be
• 1:15:11
  able to find someone that is willing to help.
• 1:15:15
  Look at pins with you to to make sure that you you you know what
• 1:15:19
  what to look for and what you what you have or what you don't
• 1:15:22
  have. Yeah, especially, like you said,
• 1:15:24
  those local ones. I mean, it's just the people who
• 1:15:27
  are bothering to put on a local pin trading event in New Jersey
• 1:15:33
  or Canada or you know what I mean?
• 1:15:35
  I see them. I saw one in North Dakota.
• 1:15:37
  Right. Like if you are taking the time
• 1:15:39
  to put this on, this is clearly your passion.
• 1:15:42
  And generally you're going to find people who want to help
• 1:15:44
  you, right? I mean, it's it's of course
• 1:15:48
  there's always bad apples, but far and away, if you are
• 1:15:51
  bothering to rent out a room in a Marriott in New Jersey in the
• 1:15:55
  dead of winter to trade Disney pins, you probably really care
• 1:15:59
  about the community. Yes, also very true.
• 1:16:02
  Also, I will just plug very briefly.
• 1:16:04
  You guys know that we are part of our good friend Kirk at
• 1:16:06
  Walrus Karp, his discord that is a great community that you can
• 1:16:10
  help, you know, that can help teach you about pins.
• 1:16:13
  We've got lots of people in that community, Duck and Chess
• 1:16:16
  included, that are on that Discord that can help you.
• 1:16:19
  So if you're like not sure where to go, but you need online help,
• 1:16:23
  come to our Discord and let us help you.
• 1:16:25
  We are a very inclusive kind of friendly community over there.
• 1:16:29
  So if you need help with that, that is a definitely a good
• 1:16:32
  place to go for for help with. If you want to post photos of
• 1:16:36
  pins that you got or are are curious about, we can help you
• 1:16:39
  out over there. I just want to see your
• 1:16:42
  collection. Sure.
• 1:16:44
  Sure, your pin collection with me.
• 1:16:47
  We want to see all of the. Pictures.
• 1:16:50
  Yes. Yes.
• 1:16:52
  Perfect pictures and pin pictures.
• 1:16:53
  That's what I want. Pets and pins.
• 1:16:55
  I feel like you should start like a new like Instagram page
• 1:16:58
  that's just photos of your dog Ruby and photos of your pin
• 1:17:04
  collection. Literally just saying, do you?
• 1:17:06
  Agree with me the same collection.
• 1:17:09
  That dog would somehow melt them down and make a knife.
• 1:17:12
  God love her, she is crafty OK? So I love that.
• 1:17:17
  That's OK. Anyway, back on track.
• 1:17:19
  But yes, ultimately, you know, you have to side if the pin is
• 1:17:22
  worth it or not. And if you've got kiddos that
• 1:17:25
  are trading, you do need to kind of coach them on that too,
• 1:17:28
  because they may willingly trade for a really cool character.
• 1:17:33
  But you have to also help them understand that like, hey, this
• 1:17:36
  one is now permanently in our collection.
• 1:17:38
  We're not going to trade it back on the on the boards.
• 1:17:40
  We're not going to put it back out there for someone else to
• 1:17:43
  get. We know that it is not an
• 1:17:44
  authentic quote UN quote pin, but you really like this
• 1:17:48
  character and that is great. So let's go put it on your
• 1:17:50
  keeper board and that's where it's going to live forever.
• 1:17:54
  So that is a conversation that you probably need to coach your
• 1:17:57
  kids through 'cause I was something that I had to talk to
• 1:17:59
  my kiddos about to was like, hey, this is a really cool pin.
• 1:18:03
  But after we walk away, OK, this is not an authentic pin.
• 1:18:05
  So this one is is one that goes on our keep pile and they were
• 1:18:08
  like, OK, sure mom, whatever. It helps that kiddos generally
• 1:18:13
  trade for characters that they really want anyway.
• 1:18:16
  So yeah, I think, I think that can ease the conversation of,
• 1:18:20
  OK, this is yours forever child. Forever and ever.
• 1:18:27
  OK, so let's talk about building that collection and what that
• 1:18:30
  looks like and kind of some of our suggestions and advice for
• 1:18:35
  how to build your collection. The the first thing, and you've
• 1:18:39
  heard us already kind of allude to this on today's episode, is
• 1:18:44
  rule #1 collect what you love, right?
• 1:18:46
  So that's what pin trading is all about at the end of the day,
• 1:18:49
  is collecting the characters or the themes or the movies, the
• 1:18:53
  icons, the attractions, whatever it is that you love.
• 1:18:58
  What I do because I'm fairly new to pin trading and I'm not
• 1:19:01
  looking to, you know, collect entire giant mass amounts of
• 1:19:06
  pins because they're expensive and I don't have space for them.
• 1:19:12
  Has duck and chess both. Look at me like, all right, OK.
• 1:19:18
  Try not feel tack. No, it's OK, but like probably
• 1:19:21
  the correct stance to be taking. Yes, because otherwise I'm not
• 1:19:24
  allowed. If I were to just say I'm going
• 1:19:27
  to collect pins, I think my husband would would not be happy
• 1:19:32
  about that. So what I do is I focus on like
• 1:19:38
  specific characters or specific niche or a a movie or whatever.
• 1:19:42
  So like for me is Stitch because Stitch is one of my all time
• 1:19:45
  favorite characters and then like Winnie the Pooh is one of
• 1:19:49
  my like secondary ones that I will look for.
• 1:19:52
  I do also look for Duffy and friends because I love Duffy and
• 1:19:55
  friends. Peep the Shelly Mae ears that
• 1:19:57
  I'm wearing in today's episode. So those are kind of my my lane
• 1:20:03
  that I stay in. However, I will trade for fun
• 1:20:06
  friends. Like this is my chubby pin that
• 1:20:08
  I traded for. It was my very first.
• 1:20:11
  Pin trade that I made, and Chubby is just a character that
• 1:20:15
  I love. And this is the only pin that
• 1:20:17
  Chubby exists on as of right now.
• 1:20:20
  And for those of you who don't know, Chubby is the little
• 1:20:22
  orange bird at the end of the Mickey and Minnie's Runaway
• 1:20:25
  Railway attraction at Hollywood Studios and over in Toontown at
• 1:20:28
  Disneyland. And I just think he's super fun
• 1:20:31
  and he's a super original character to the parks, which I
• 1:20:33
  think is fun. So that was one that I was like,
• 1:20:36
  yes, this one's coming home with me.
• 1:20:38
  But generally speaking, I try to keep it niche just so I don't
• 1:20:42
  end up with with with an overwhelming amount of pins for
• 1:20:46
  what my personal preference is. Now that being said, you are
• 1:20:53
  welcome to collect whatever you love.
• 1:20:55
  So if what you Love Is All things Disney, or all things
• 1:20:59
  Marvel or all things Pixar, have at it, my friend.
• 1:21:07
  In the same vein as that, and this is truly how we started,
• 1:21:13
  we're making jokes about how large our collection is, but you
• 1:21:15
  also have to understand we've been collecting for like a
• 1:21:18
  decade now. Like we've been collecting for
• 1:21:20
  actually probably over a decade, for years.
• 1:21:22
  I mean, our love of Disney pins predates to when we have finally
• 1:21:27
  had enough adult money to go start traveling to the parks,
• 1:21:30
  right? Like, that was like a piece of
• 1:21:31
  the Disney parks that we could have.
• 1:21:33
  I have always collected them. My aunt actually started a small
• 1:21:36
  collection for me as a child. Because if you remember when you
• 1:21:39
  would buy those like special VHS tapes from the Disney Store,
• 1:21:43
  right? Like when they were out of the
• 1:21:43
  Disney vault. You will get.
• 1:21:45
  Lithographic prints and often they would also come with a pin.
• 1:21:50
  So what my aunt would do is she would buy for me and my sister,
• 1:21:53
  she would buy the prints and then she would buy 2 pins right?
• 1:21:57
  So we each got the the set of prints and we got the A pin.
• 1:22:01
  So I have been collecting Disney pins quite literally since I was
• 1:22:04
  a child. Like, it actually predates
• 1:22:06
  before, like, Disney pin trading being what Disney pin trading
• 1:22:10
  was or is terrifying. Yeah.
• 1:22:12
  I mean, it's really special, right?
• 1:22:14
  Like, my aunt has since passed on.
• 1:22:15
  And, you know, it's just, like a really nice memory.
• 1:22:17
  It was something that was really important to us.
• 1:22:19
  You know, we were always a big Disney family.
• 1:22:21
  So like, her going out of her way to get those items, Like,
• 1:22:24
  it's just really nice to have those things in my collection
• 1:22:27
  to, like, remind me of her, especially since, like, some of
• 1:22:30
  the lithographs have, like, gotten destroyed over the years.
• 1:22:32
  I mean, right. You know, Like, basements flood.
• 1:22:34
  Like, things happen, unfortunately.
• 1:22:36
  But pins being what they are, they're like fairly
• 1:22:39
  indestructible unless you really, really try, you know?
• 1:22:42
  So like it's, it's just like a nice memory.
• 1:22:44
  So we've been collecting Disney pens forever, but we started
• 1:22:49
  somewhere too, right? So it is our best advice to
• 1:22:53
  start small and to start and to ease your way into it, right?
• 1:22:57
  It could be very exciting, but it can be very overwhelming.
• 1:23:01
  The best place, especially if you know that you want to trade
• 1:23:05
  right like that is your main thing, is to get into the
• 1:23:07
  trading aspect of it. What we always recommend is
• 1:23:10
  start with a couple of mystery. Packs right you.
• 1:23:12
  Can get them in the parks fairly cheaply and even like at Hot
• 1:23:15
  Topic. Right?
• 1:23:16
  Like of course, prices for everything I've gone up and it
• 1:23:19
  is more expensive now than it has ever been.
• 1:23:22
  I mean, shockingly so, but still like you can usually, usually
• 1:23:25
  those mystery packs have like between 2:00 and 3:00 pins if
• 1:23:29
  you're doing like the Hot Topic or box lunch one, and then
• 1:23:32
  sometimes up to like 5 pins in a pack if you're doing the ones on
• 1:23:36
  Disney property, right? So those are a great place to
• 1:23:39
  start. Pick a theme that you like.
• 1:23:42
  So that way if you end up with something for your collection,
• 1:23:44
  you're like, Oh my God, that's great.
• 1:23:46
  Like the Disney Princess ones are always a good one for you
• 1:23:49
  get because you probably statistically like at least one
• 1:23:52
  Disney Princess that they'll have in that pack.
• 1:23:54
  And if you like it, you get to keep it and it's not a horrible
• 1:23:57
  disappointment. But if you don't like it, then
• 1:23:59
  you have something to begin your trading journey.
• 1:24:02
  So that is like our general recommended place to start as
• 1:24:05
  you are building your trading. Collection.
• 1:24:08
  Yeah, that's something we did with our kids.
• 1:24:10
  We did the little and I, I should have looked up the
• 1:24:12
  official name, but it's like the little plushy characters where
• 1:24:15
  they took a lot of the little sidekicks and they made them
• 1:24:17
  into little plushies. So like in the one that we got
• 1:24:20
  and we ended up keeping all of the ones that we got in that
• 1:24:23
  mystery set because the kids were like, those are so cute.
• 1:24:26
  And it was like, we can't, we couldn't help it.
• 1:24:29
  But like we said, we got 5 in that little set.
• 1:24:33
  And it was, yeah, it was. And it's super fun for kids too,
• 1:24:36
  to like be able to open them and then like then they get to
• 1:24:39
  decide like, oh, these are the ones that I got like, do I want
• 1:24:42
  to keep them? Do I not want to keep them?
• 1:24:44
  So like we got Pumbaa, we got Pascal, we got Sebastian, we got
• 1:24:49
  Scrump and then the if I can get him off of the board.
• 1:24:52
  The last one that we got was a Boo, which just like they're so
• 1:24:56
  stinking cute and it was fun because it was a lot of
• 1:24:58
  different characters. We knew that in our one pack
• 1:25:02
  that we picked out, we weren't going to get duplicates, which
• 1:25:04
  is a very big part of the trading is that people will open
• 1:25:09
  these mystery packs and get duplicates and then have to
• 1:25:12
  trade them away to try to find the ones that they want.
• 1:25:14
  And then it's the whole thing like we talked about before,
• 1:25:18
  which, you know, Duck and Jess I'm sure don't know anything
• 1:25:20
  about what that's like. Not once have I bought mystery
• 1:25:24
  ducks after mystery box the after mystery box trying to get
• 1:25:28
  the one that I wanted. That's never been an experience.
• 1:25:31
  I've had ever. I don't have a borderline
• 1:25:34
  gambling problem. That's not why I opened Pokémon
• 1:25:37
  packs on the Internet. Yeah.
• 1:25:40
  So they're, the mystery packs are super fun, especially if you
• 1:25:44
  find a set where you're like, I'm happy with any of these.
• 1:25:47
  But also they can be fun if you're like hunting for a
• 1:25:50
  certain one that you you want to, you know, the thrill of the
• 1:25:52
  chase a little bit too with it. Yeah.
• 1:25:54
  Yeah, absolutely. And so sort of in that same
• 1:25:57
  thing, right, like you buying the mystery boxes are a great
• 1:26:00
  way for you to start your trading collection.
• 1:26:02
  If you were interested in growing your collection
• 1:26:05
  collection, like your personal collection that you want to keep
• 1:26:08
  with you, frankly, purchasing the specific pins directly is
• 1:26:12
  usually a good way to kind of get that started, right?
• 1:26:15
  Because then you can see like, oh, this is a character that I
• 1:26:18
  do enjoy collecting or this is a character that maybe I don't
• 1:26:21
  enjoy collecting, right? So if you enjoy collecting them,
• 1:26:23
  then you can start hunting them out as you go into the parks or
• 1:26:26
  events to pin trade. And if it turns out that like
• 1:26:29
  this is a really character, that's for me.
• 1:26:31
  Like I don't really like the designs that they have for the
• 1:26:33
  pins that are coming out like you can and just add them to the
• 1:26:36
  trading pile, right? And something that's also
• 1:26:38
  important to know if you are interested in purchasing pins
• 1:26:41
  directly, pins release quite literally weekly at Disney.
• 1:26:45
  It is Tuesday mornings. So if you see a line in in like
• 1:26:51
  Adventureland out out to all the way to the front gate all the
• 1:26:55
  way back to Main Street, it's almost certainly a pin drop,
• 1:26:58
  right? Like people are fanatical about
• 1:27:00
  pins. And again, I'm not going to I'm
• 1:27:01
  not going to touch on flippers. That's not a conversation we're
• 1:27:03
  having here, not in public anyway.
• 1:27:06
  My, my thoughts are fairly well established.
• 1:27:10
  But yeah, so I mean, there's always there is lots.
• 1:27:13
  And they also will release online on Tuesday mornings
• 1:27:15
  usually. So if that's something that
• 1:27:17
  you're interested in, sometimes they are limited edition and
• 1:27:20
  they're only available in the parks.
• 1:27:22
  But sometimes they are just released online to the public if
• 1:27:25
  they're they're an open edition situation.
• 1:27:27
  So I do recommend that if you were looking to start building
• 1:27:30
  your personal collection, buying directly is a good way to do it.
• 1:27:33
  But if you're interested in the trading aspect of it, then a
• 1:27:36
  mystery box is usually the way to go.
• 1:27:38
  So that way you have some trade. Fodder, yeah.
• 1:27:41
  And you'll see that those prices will vary too.
• 1:27:43
  So keep an eye on that if you're someone that's trying to do it
• 1:27:45
  more of an inexpensive route if you can.
• 1:27:48
  I mean, pins are expensive regardless.
• 1:27:50
  Some of those packs, like those mystery packs that have three or
• 1:27:53
  five in them tend to be a little bit more cost effective per pin.
• 1:27:58
  But some of those limited edition pins, some of the big
• 1:28:00
  ones that they've had recently where the pins are physically
• 1:28:03
  big go upwards of even at at market price, not at resale
• 1:28:09
  price are $100 a $125.00. So it can be very expensive
• 1:28:13
  depending on what it is that you're looking for.
• 1:28:15
  So you've really got to keep in mind your budget and what you're
• 1:28:19
  looking for and the purpose of it, right?
• 1:28:21
  If you're just looking for pins to purchase to trade, like Duck
• 1:28:24
  mentioned earlier, you don't want to go for those big, big,
• 1:28:27
  big pins. Now if you're looking to add
• 1:28:29
  them to your collection to keep different story.
• 1:28:32
  So now that we've talked about your trading and you're
• 1:28:36
  collecting, what do you actually do once you physically transport
• 1:28:39
  the pins home and you've decided which ones are joining your
• 1:28:42
  collection, right? Like, what do you actually do
• 1:28:44
  with them? You stick them in a box.
• 1:28:47
  No one's kidding. You're awake.
• 1:28:49
  Forever to never enjoy them and never look at them.
• 1:28:52
  Yeah, how dare you have those pins and want to enjoy them.
• 1:28:56
  That is foolish. You are there for one reason and
• 1:28:59
  one reason only, and that is to collect every Epcot pin ever
• 1:29:03
  made. No.
• 1:29:04
  So feel like that's speaking from a deep place inside of
• 1:29:08
  Duck. Yeah.
• 1:29:10
  How dare you? Me and my little faceless Epcot
• 1:29:14
  Mickey, how dare you? But now so the the most common
• 1:29:19
  way to display them at home is some form or fashion of
• 1:29:23
  corkboard, right? Like the, the way that we
• 1:29:26
  display them generally is we bought them, we bought them on
• 1:29:29
  like Amazon. They were like 20 bucks for a
• 1:29:31
  pack of three. They're like these little
• 1:29:33
  hexagons and we just stuck them to the wall with command tape.
• 1:29:37
  And then you just put your pins in there and you can organize
• 1:29:39
  them how you want, right? Like I, I routinely reorganize
• 1:29:42
  them. So sometimes so and, and it just
• 1:29:45
  comes with like when you add more to the collection, right?
• 1:29:49
  So like I had a board that was all stitch and then I had enough
• 1:29:53
  stitch to fill four boards. So then what I started tipping
• 1:29:56
  was instead of doing it by character, I then started kind
• 1:30:00
  of doing it by like theme, right?
• 1:30:02
  So like I had a bunch of stitch like in the sand or if it was
• 1:30:05
  stitched with lilo or whatever, it was right?
• 1:30:08
  Like I also collect like movie opening day pins, right?
• 1:30:12
  So I have a whole bunch of those.
• 1:30:13
  So then I have a a stitch leave them stitch opening day pin and
• 1:30:17
  that got put with like my Narnia opening day pins, right?
• 1:30:19
  So like, however you want to display them and you want to
• 1:30:22
  organize them is very personal And like it's totally fine to
• 1:30:25
  change it over time. And in fact, that's one of the
• 1:30:27
  ways that like, I think we enjoy our pins most is like when we
• 1:30:31
  expand the collection and we're like, actually, this might be a
• 1:30:33
  fun new way to organize them, right?
• 1:30:35
  Like it's a very low stakes thing to do in your daily life.
• 1:30:38
  You know what I mean? Like there is nothing less low
• 1:30:41
  stakes than reorganizing a pin board.
• 1:30:44
  But like, you know, when you're going through it, it makes you
• 1:30:46
  feel kind of good to have a new way to display like this thing
• 1:30:50
  that brings you happiness, right?
• 1:30:51
  So. Have a have a little control
• 1:30:53
  over the environment that you're in and.
• 1:30:56
  We thought is controlling the things that I can when things
• 1:30:59
  feel out of control. Amen.
• 1:31:01
  So, yeah, so, so you know what I mean.
• 1:31:04
  So like that is how we will display it at home is generally
• 1:31:07
  just like a cork board. We have the small ones they sell
• 1:31:09
  huge ones people will sell on Etsy, like shaped ones.
• 1:31:13
  I see people do that all the time.
• 1:31:15
  So like there was somebody that I that I knew that had like a
• 1:31:18
  very extensive goofy collection and had like a four foot tall
• 1:31:23
  goofy pin board made like and it was like a it was like a goofy
• 1:31:27
  shape, right, You know what I mean?
• 1:31:28
  Amazing. It was like his silhouette.
• 1:31:30
  So like there is 1010 ways for you to choose to display it at
• 1:31:34
  home. Pin boards are the most logical,
• 1:31:36
  right? Like which have them up in the
• 1:31:38
  office or, or you know, like when we lived at our parents
• 1:31:41
  houses, like we had them in the bedroom, you know, our bedrooms
• 1:31:43
  or whatever cuz that was our space.
• 1:31:45
  But you know, however you want to have that set up, that's the
• 1:31:49
  easiest way. There's also like banners for
• 1:31:53
  you to display right? Like people on Etsy will make
• 1:31:56
  themed banners. That's a super common thing.
• 1:31:59
  There's cases I actually bought for myself for like the special
• 1:32:03
  pins that I have that I like want to make sure that I keep
• 1:32:05
  separate. Like it's almost like a pinfolio
• 1:32:09
  situation. It's like a case that has like a
• 1:32:11
  bunch of fabric sheets in it, for lack of a better term, that
• 1:32:16
  has zip opens in the middle. So I can store like the backing
• 1:32:19
  cards for them, but then I can still have them on some form of
• 1:32:22
  display, right? Like it's not like I have them
• 1:32:24
  out on the coffee table, but like if I need to bring them out
• 1:32:26
  to look for something or whatever it is, or like I'm
• 1:32:29
  reorganizing and I have decided one gets upgraded to the special
• 1:32:32
  folio. Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:32:34
  One's worthy of being migrated. So there's like 100 ten ways
• 1:32:38
  that you can do it. Cork boards being the most
• 1:32:40
  common. And then some people have like
• 1:32:42
  little photo albums. I actually think this is a very
• 1:32:44
  cute idea. If I may make a suggestion to
• 1:32:46
  folks out there, if there's a, we try to get like a pin, a
• 1:32:50
  special pin per trip, you know, whether it's for food and wine
• 1:32:55
  or, you know, something like that.
• 1:32:58
  And people will put like in a photo album, a photo of the trip
• 1:33:02
  and then stick the pin with the photo of that trap.
• 1:33:05
  And I think that's something that we're going to end up
• 1:33:06
  doing. And I think it's just like a
• 1:33:08
  very sweet idea. And it helps keep thing, keep
• 1:33:11
  things organized and helps you, you know, remember that.
• 1:33:13
  Remember that particular trip and why that pin was special.
• 1:33:16
  Yeah. Yeah, also, Disney themselves
• 1:33:18
  have started making a lot of like, different pinboards and
• 1:33:21
  different ways to like, display your pins.
• 1:33:22
  I've seen pinboards and like Hot Topic and Box Lunch that are
• 1:33:26
  like stitch shaped or Mickey or whatever, right?
• 1:33:30
  So as pin trading and pins themselves have gotten more
• 1:33:33
  popular, like other places are making like different ways to
• 1:33:36
  display them as well. So you can check out places like
• 1:33:38
  that too. Yeah, and something that we've
• 1:33:40
  done is actually do some like shadow boxes that we've put on
• 1:33:43
  the wall and we will combine things like our like celebrating
• 1:33:47
  buttons that we get in the parks with like pins and things like
• 1:33:50
  that. So that's another option too.
• 1:33:52
  A lot of those will have, it's not necessarily a cork board
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  backing, but it's like AI don't even know what you call it.
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  It's like a cardboard with some like Felty fabric on it kind of
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  that they, that they have that, you know, you, you can push the,
• 1:34:05
  the pins through, but you just, yeah, you got to make sure you
• 1:34:07
  give yourself enough space to have the back or to push them
• 1:34:11
  through whatever it is that you're going to be utilizing.
• 1:34:15
  And you do have to be careful of that with some of the Amazon
• 1:34:17
  cork boards too, because we have, we have a similar set that
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  we've bought like just sets of those, you know, 5 like hexagon
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  little cork boards. Well, some of them if you push
• 1:34:27
  the pin through too far, it'll come out through the other end.
• 1:34:30
  So just fair warning, make sure that whatever you're using.
• 1:34:34
  Heads up to renters, you might not get your deposit right.
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  So just just keep that in mind. But yeah, definitely a lot of
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  really fun ways to to display those if that's what you choose
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  to do. And I think ultimately you just
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  have to decide is your, is your collection?
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  Do you want it to be on display so that it can be viewed
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  somewhere in your house? Do you want to keep it in more
• 1:34:54
  of like a binder that you can flip through?
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  You know, there's lots of different ways that you can do
• 1:34:58
  collections with that. So you just really have to
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  decide what it is that you, how it is that you want to have that
• 1:35:05
  stored at your at your your disposal so you can look through
• 1:35:09
  it as you choose. Cool.
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  All right. I think in a nutshell, sort of
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  that's pin trading. Hopefully we gave you some good
• 1:35:20
  ideas, some information, you know, we didn't go into types of
• 1:35:24
  pins and what kinds of mystery packs are out there and all that
• 1:35:28
  kind of stuff, because here's the deal with that.
• 1:35:29
  It changes so frequently and they cycle through so often what
• 1:35:35
  pins they have available. So it's really hard for us to
• 1:35:39
  say, well, they usually always have these kinds of pins because
• 1:35:41
  it's, you just never know what you're going to find.
• 1:35:44
  So really, truly going to the parks and just looking around
• 1:35:48
  and, and looking through what the different stores have in
• 1:35:50
  different shops will have different pins.
• 1:35:52
  And you know, we didn't get into all of that because it's just
• 1:35:54
  too much to speculate. And two weeks from now it, it
• 1:35:58
  could be all different from what we're giving you now.
• 1:36:01
  So we tried our best to give you the basics, make sure you know
• 1:36:04
  what you're getting into when it comes to pin trading, and
• 1:36:07
  hopefully give you something to use going forward to help you
• 1:36:11
  enjoy your pin experience at the Disney parks.
• 1:36:16
  That being said, let's briefly talk about before we wrap up
• 1:36:19
  what we are headed to next. So our next episode here on Mom
• 1:36:23
  St. will be another hub episode. We will be back with our good
• 1:36:25
  friend Stevie for our next episode.
• 1:36:28
  Not sure on the topic of that. You know, we're we're all kind
• 1:36:32
  of in this realm of like spooky season has started and we're
• 1:36:36
  almost to the holidays and next year feels like it's creeping up
• 1:36:40
  on us. So we're trying to figure out
• 1:36:41
  what we're doing over here at Mom Street.
• 1:36:43
  But Stevie will be with us for our next episode.
• 1:36:47
  And Speaking of what in the world we're doing here at Mom
• 1:36:49
  St., we do have a new offering that we are kind of just in the
• 1:36:54
  beginning stages of and that is something that we felt would be
• 1:36:59
  beneficial to our community. And that is a Patreon account.
• 1:37:03
  So if you guys are familiar with Patreon, it's kind of another
• 1:37:06
  one of those websites where it's kind of like a little clubhouse
• 1:37:09
  for your community and people that you want to connect with.
• 1:37:12
  So the goal is eventually to have that Patreon be replace.
• 1:37:17
  What are our current subscribers on our TikTok account?
• 1:37:21
  TikTok has made some changes recently with their subscription
• 1:37:24
  policy and we're not super thrilled about it.
• 1:37:28
  If we're being completely candid, candid.
• 1:37:30
  Thank you. That word was hard.
• 1:37:32
  Sorry if we're being completely candid.
• 1:37:33
  So we are going to be shifting to more of a Patreon style.
• 1:37:37
  We are in the very infant stages of our Patreon account, but you
• 1:37:42
  can find that link in our show description if you want to check
• 1:37:46
  it out. The main thing that we're going
• 1:37:49
  to have over there currently is the unedited versions of our
• 1:37:53
  podcast episodes are going to live over there.
• 1:37:56
  So we've got some friends that want the chaos that ensues what
• 1:38:00
  we do our live recordings. So some of that, unfortunately
• 1:38:06
  for time and content has to get edited out of our podcast
• 1:38:11
  episodes. But if you are someone that
• 1:38:13
  wants all of the in betweens and the chaoses and duck having to
• 1:38:18
  answer the phone when their sister calls and whatever real
• 1:38:23
  panning. Happy and you know.
• 1:38:25
  Yeah. So currently over there already
• 1:38:28
  is the extended version of our 100th anniversary that we just
• 1:38:33
  recorded last episode. So that already exists over
• 1:38:38
  there. So if you want the the chaos and
• 1:38:42
  the fun and the extended trivia really is the the primary thing
• 1:38:45
  from that episode. Unfortunately, we we did a ton
• 1:38:48
  of trivia with our good friend Kate, AKA the Disney sister, and
• 1:38:51
  we were so happy she was back and doing trivia with us.
• 1:38:54
  But for time's sake, I had to cut some of that out when I
• 1:38:57
  edited because it was a lot. While we enjoyed it in live
• 1:39:00
  person, wasn't going to be quite as fun for our listeners to hear
• 1:39:04
  on on, you know, the the re listen.
• 1:39:07
  But that does exist on our Patreon now.
• 1:39:10
  So you can find that at patreon.com/mom St.
• 1:39:14
  USA. So very easy to find over there.
• 1:39:17
  Everything is free content over there for now until we kind of
• 1:39:20
  figure out what we want to do with that.
• 1:39:22
  So please join us over there if you want some of that content
• 1:39:27
  and eventually some exclusive content will live over there.
• 1:39:30
  And we'll keep you guys posted once we kind of wrap our brains
• 1:39:33
  around what that's going to look like.
• 1:39:35
  But we would love to have you guys join us over there.
• 1:39:38
  So I think that is the end of our our chat for today.
• 1:39:42
  Duck and Jess, you guys have any final thoughts about pin trading
• 1:39:46
  or anything that we talked about today?
• 1:39:49
  I don't think there's anything I'm pin trading that we missed.
• 1:39:51
  Now I think I, I hope this was helpful because I know pin
• 1:39:55
  trading can be daunting for a lot of people, right?
• 1:39:57
  Like it, it seems like it's such like a well established
• 1:40:02
  activity. People feel intimidated
• 1:40:04
  participating. People are not sure how other
• 1:40:07
  people are going to react or like even the etiquette of
• 1:40:10
  asking like how to trade right? Like.
• 1:40:12
  So I hope that this kind of demystified that a little bit
• 1:40:15
  for folks. I hope folks feel more
• 1:40:17
  comfortable entering the hobby And like I if you have any
• 1:40:20
  questions about pin trading that we're not covered here, ask us
• 1:40:23
  in the discord. You can message any of us either
• 1:40:25
  on the Mom St. account or directly on our account here.
• 1:40:29
  Beanie Duck, like that is all totally fine.
• 1:40:31
  We are very happy to answer any questions that we can and if we
• 1:40:35
  do not know the answers, we can probably point you to somebody
• 1:40:37
  who is even more of a pin based expert than we are.
• 1:40:40
  So I hope that demystified things a little bit.
• 1:40:43
  So most importantly, just have fun with it, right?
• 1:40:45
  It's supposed to be fun. You're collecting things that
• 1:40:47
  you love that represent a movie you love or a character you
• 1:40:51
  love, right? So just like making sure you're
• 1:40:52
  having fun is, I think like the most important priority.
• 1:40:55
  Agreed. I love that so fun.
• 1:40:58
  Well, thank you guys all so much for joining us for this episode
• 1:41:01
  of Mom St. USA.
• 1:41:02
  As always, like we just mentioned, if you you need help
• 1:41:05
  with pin trading or anything else, you can always reach us
• 1:41:07
  Mom St. usa@gmail.com or on several of our social media
• 1:41:11
  platforms or on our new Patreon account that we just talked
• 1:41:14
  about or on the discord channel. So lots of ways that you can
• 1:41:17
  reach us and we will be able to get back to you over there.
• 1:41:20
  But thank you all so much for joining us for this pin trading
• 1:41:23
  one O 1 and we look forward to seeing you on the next episode
• 1:41:26
  of mom St. USA.
• 1:41:28
  Bye everyone. Bye.