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The Late Debate | 21 May · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Free Leitch and Denika de Giorgio.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, A French Town set a new world record.
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  Speaker 2: But I have to say I've seen some world records
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  Speaker 2: in my time.
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  Speaker 3: This is the most bizarre world record I have ever
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  Speaker 3: heard of.
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  Speaker 2: Will fill you in shortly.
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  Speaker 3: Plus, when we look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers,
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  Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce has his say on the coalition bust up,
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  Speaker 3: and there's some good news in tomorrow's papers, a breakthrough
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  Speaker 3: in the treatment of Alzheimer's. All of that coming up shortly.
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  Speaker 3: But we all know governments and banks are absolutely committed
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  Speaker 3: to eliminating cash. They're closing down bank branches, they're eliminating ATMs,
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  Speaker 3: and businesses are constantly pushing the convenience of using FPOs.
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  Speaker 2: You know, tap and go.
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  Speaker 3: But one Woollongong University student, well, he's pushing back against
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  Speaker 3: the cashlist society in a very unique court case. Oliver
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  Speaker 3: Griffiths is his name, and he's refusing to use f
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  Speaker 3: POSS to pay for on campus parking, instead offering to
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  Speaker 3: pay cash and offer that the university have repeatedly ignored.
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  Speaker 1: This is a.
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  Speaker 4: Note I leave in my car for parking inspectors to
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  Speaker 4: know that I'm happy to pay for my parking in cash.
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  Speaker 2: They never read it.
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  Speaker 4: What am I supposed to do? Cash allows me to
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  Speaker 4: be free economically and free individually. It allows me to
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  Speaker 4: have privacy. It's a moral stand against digital currency being
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  Speaker 4: forced on everybody. I think it's more convenient for people
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  Speaker 4: to pay for cash for parking. It's small change. We
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  Speaker 4: don't need a bulk bill our parking fees. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: So he's left a note in his car saying happy
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  Speaker 3: to pay cash. Here's my contact details. The university ignored
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  Speaker 3: the note and instead issued him with a ninety seven
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  Speaker 3: dollar fine. Rather than pay the fine, he's going to court.
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  Speaker 3: Then he's going to argue I offered to pay in cash.
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  Speaker 3: If the university won't accept cash, which is legal tender,
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  Speaker 3: well then that's a problem for them, not for me.
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  Speaker 2: Freyer, does he have a good argument.
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  Speaker 5: Here, Well, according to the H Trible C businesses don't
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  Speaker 5: have to accept cash, but they need to tell customers
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  Speaker 5: that in advance. So you need to be informed that
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  Speaker 5: this is a cashless operation. Otherwise, if you give them cash,
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  Speaker 5: they have to accept and from twenty twenty six all
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  Speaker 5: businesses will have to accept cash for essential services. So
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  Speaker 5: really this will come down to the technicality over whether
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  Speaker 5: there was a disclosure statement on any of these parking
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  Speaker 5: signs that this was a cashless car park. If there wasn't,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. I reckon Oliy's got to shut here.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 7: It's interesting because I feel like this guy, Oliver Griffiths,
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  Speaker 7: is like the queen essential Australian.
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  Speaker 1: He saw they in that video was really in that
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  Speaker 1: the parking parking lot there it looked like it had
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  Speaker 1: been rating.
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  Speaker 7: He was out there making a stand and I I
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  Speaker 7: really love it that he's been called now the cash King.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what an absolute name.
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  Speaker 7: Look good on him, I say, because he does indeed
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  Speaker 7: raise a very good point. Now, I do also think
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  Speaker 7: that the majority of young people are not using cash,
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  Speaker 7: but I mean that's beside the point. What if they are.
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  Speaker 7: My only concern with this is is that he's been
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  Speaker 7: fined ninety seven dollars. He's now started to go fund
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  Speaker 7: me page. I think he's looking to raise about five
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  Speaker 7: thousand dollars. That is a very big jump between ninety
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  Speaker 7: seven dollars and five.
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  Speaker 1: Thousand dollars just to prove a point.
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  Speaker 7: But look, I applaud him for standing up for this
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  Speaker 7: because in the end he is right, He's not wrong.
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  Speaker 7: It is still a legal tender in this country cash,
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  Speaker 7: and I do think we forget about that because it's
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  Speaker 7: just so easy to tap and.
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  Speaker 1: Go these days. But it's an expensive exercise.
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  Speaker 7: But all the power to Oliver Griffin standing out there
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  Speaker 7: in the pouring rain trying to make his point.
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  Speaker 1: Good on it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, like you said, young people are pretty o fay
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  Speaker 3: with using f pass or whatever. So it's going to
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  Speaker 3: see a young person who stirred up about the need
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  Speaker 3: to keep cash in circulation. Imagine if he wins, though,
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  Speaker 3: what this would mean for carpucks. Do you remember the
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  Speaker 3: days when on toll roads or in car pucks had
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  Speaker 3: the big basket and used to throw your coins out
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  Speaker 3: the wind you're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: Remember viewers will remember a big.
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  Speaker 3: Sort of bucket you'd throw your coins in. Although these days,
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  Speaker 3: with inflation the way the Albanezy government is running the joint,
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  Speaker 3: you need a wheelbaar of coins being pulled out your
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  Speaker 3: window to pay for your parking.
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  Speaker 6: And I honestly think good on Ali.
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  Speaker 5: There are some real even though I must admit I
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  Speaker 5: don't remember the last time I had cash in my wallets.
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  Speaker 5: I'm an Apple pay person through and through, but there
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  Speaker 5: are some genuine uses for cash. Women fleeing domestic violence
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  Speaker 5: often you know you need cash conceal payments from an
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  Speaker 5: abusive partner potentially. Also, there are some genuine national security
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  Speaker 5: concerns here. Our Internet system is so fragile and we've
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  Speaker 5: seen around the world when you have blackouts. If your
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  Speaker 5: whole payment system is digital, it just stops your country,
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  Speaker 5: your economy, it all stops. So being able to use cash,
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  Speaker 5: I think is really important.
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  Speaker 3: And of course we should point out Ollie is a
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  Speaker 3: fourth year law student, so it's a good way to get.
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  Speaker 5: Some exerience exactly. But moving on now to Sydney University.
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  Speaker 5: Now you probably remember the horrendous encampments we saw at
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  Speaker 5: the university. I was a student there at the time
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  Speaker 5: and genuinely there were, as you can see, hundreds of
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  Speaker 5: students who were camped at the university four months. I
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  Speaker 5: think it lasted for up to two months, and you
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  Speaker 5: can see the images there. You couldn't walk around campus
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  Speaker 5: without being confronted by this. Alongside the tent encampments, there
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  Speaker 5: were weekly protests, which I think you will also be
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  Speaker 5: able to see on the screen exactly, and so it
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  Speaker 5: was a lot of chanting and it was very distressing
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  Speaker 5: for a lot of students. Now, there was a big
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  Speaker 5: concern at the time that non students were coming onto campus,
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  Speaker 5: and many people felt that the university was not taking
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  Speaker 5: appropriate action.
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  Speaker 6: It's now been revealed through a freedom.
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  Speaker 5: Of information request that the university was panicking naturally, and
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  Speaker 5: one of their proposed solutions was to segregate Jewish students
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  Speaker 5: for their own safety, because they wanted away from them
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  Speaker 5: to avoid avoid the encampments, and they couldn't see any
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  Speaker 5: other way other than to separate Jewish students for their
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  Speaker 5: own good. Now, I'm not criticizing the university for trying
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  Speaker 5: to protect Jewish students. I think that's exactly what they
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  Speaker 5: should have been doing. But the problem here is they're
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  Speaker 5: essentially saying your right to protest is going to trump
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  Speaker 5: the rights of Jewish students to be able to move
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  Speaker 5: freely and safely around campus, and I just do not
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  Speaker 5: think that's right.
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  Speaker 7: Sorry, Sorry, I was just going to say the way
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  Speaker 7: that these universities have failed Jewish students. I think never
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  Speaker 7: ceases to amaze me. And can you honestly, genuinely imagine
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  Speaker 7: a situation where you say, Okay, if you're Jewish, you
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  Speaker 7: get to go through that door. I mean, if you're
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  Speaker 7: going to do that, what if you're a black student,
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  Speaker 7: you go through the left door. If you're Caucasian you
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  Speaker 7: go through the right door. If you're Asian you can
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  Speaker 7: go through the back door. I mean, in what society,
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  Speaker 7: in what country do we segregate people based on race,
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  Speaker 7: the color of their skin, and their religion. I think
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  Speaker 7: this is absolutely disgusting by the University of City to
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  Speaker 7: even have considered it, given we saw some shocking moments
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  Speaker 7: on campus like this one, and this is in Australia,
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  Speaker 7: and this is what was going on in this country,
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  Speaker 7: and yet.
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  Speaker 1: The board thought that the only.
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  Speaker 7: Way to solve the problem was to segregate Jewish students.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, congratulations, if you're out there chanting anti Israel sentiment, James,
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  Speaker 7: it pays off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this Sidney University should be ashamed of themselves. They
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  Speaker 2: had two choices.
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  Speaker 3: We could shut down the racist encampment, or we could
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  Speaker 3: just create a special entrance for Jews. So the Jews
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  Speaker 3: can just go over there and come into the university
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  Speaker 3: that way, and that's the option they were tempted to
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  Speaker 3: go with. They certainly didn't shut down the encampment like Eupreu,
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  Speaker 3: and you saw a lot of that.
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  Speaker 2: I went along one.
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  Speaker 3: Day just to check it out, and I was shocked
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  Speaker 3: that the university would allow something like that on campus,
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  Speaker 3: with not only university students who should be expelled in
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  Speaker 3: my opinion, if you're going to carry on that way,
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  Speaker 3: but allowing people from off site to come on and
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  Speaker 3: create a situation where Jewish students were put in a
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  Speaker 3: position where the university actually contemplated giving them a special
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  Speaker 3: Jews only entrance to keep them safe. And I think
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  Speaker 3: you're being a little kind to the university by saying, well,
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  Speaker 3: they were trying to help Jewish students. If that's the
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  Speaker 3: best they could do, it doesn't say much for the
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  Speaker 3: regard in which they hold Jewish students.
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  Speaker 5: And the other thing is the riot police. This came
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  Speaker 5: out in a Senate inquiry. The riot police offered to
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  Speaker 5: come onto campus to remove the protesters, but the vice
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  Speaker 5: chancellor refused them access to the university. He said, we
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  Speaker 5: don't need you here because he wanted to de escalate
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  Speaker 5: the situation and he didn't want to risk violence. So
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  Speaker 5: it's like, Okay, you've got violent people on the campus.
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  Speaker 5: The police are offering to come in. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: we wouldn't possibly want to make the protesters, the people
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  Speaker 5: who are breaking the rules upset, so let's just leave
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  Speaker 5: it and move Jewish students away.
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  Speaker 6: It's completely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Look at it from a parent point of view, right,
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  Speaker 3: So you spend seventeen eighteen years raising your kids, and
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  Speaker 3: the kids are the apple of your eye, and you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to teach them to be good people and to
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  Speaker 3: have good character, and then you send them to university.
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  Speaker 3: Are you more likely to send them to a university
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  Speaker 3: where they allow something like those encampments to go on
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  Speaker 3: month after month, or are you more likely to send
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  Speaker 3: them to a university where they say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we're not tolerating this. Bring the right police in. You
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  Speaker 3: have one ugly scene, but it's all dealt with. I'd
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  Speaker 3: send my kids to a university that say we're not
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  Speaker 3: going to stand for this.
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  Speaker 2: We'll deal with absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, it's so bothersome that the argument from
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  Speaker 7: the universities was always well, we don't want to infringe
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  Speaker 7: on free speech.
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  Speaker 1: There's a very different, big difference.
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  Speaker 7: Between infringing on free speech and actually when it becomes
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  Speaker 7: dangerous when Jewish students.
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  Speaker 1: Are going there to learn.
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  Speaker 7: It is their freedom, it is their right as Australians
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  Speaker 7: to go to these universities to learn and they should
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  Speaker 7: be able to do that without feeling like their lives
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  Speaker 7: are at risk or feeling completely unsafe. So that there's
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  Speaker 7: a very very big difference in the way that the
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  Speaker 7: universities have handled themselves has been absolutely appalling. But look,
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  Speaker 7: let's move on because I've got to ask the question,
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  Speaker 7: can nobody have fun or have a laugh these days
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  Speaker 7: without the perpetually outraged, always simply being outrage. Now this
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  Speaker 7: all centers around a story with Brisbane Broncostarrhyese Walsh. Now
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  Speaker 7: he is currently being investigated by the club after putting
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  Speaker 7: out a video on social media on his TikTok account.
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  Speaker 1: He was with his mates.
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  Speaker 7: They were having a bit of a fun and we
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  Speaker 7: were talking two mates getting together having a laugh doing.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever boys do.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, I've got no idea what that is,
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  Speaker 7: but the point is they were mucking around.
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  Speaker 1: This is what he uploaded. Have a look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, two.
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  Speaker 1: Mates having a laugh.
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  Speaker 7: Punches is made in the face up, can we just
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  Speaker 7: put a disclaimer? Wearing a glove for goodness sake? And
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  Speaker 7: the guy on the floor, it didn't look like he
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  Speaker 7: was injured. Again, this was two mates having a laugh.
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  Speaker 7: But the problem that I have with this is the
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  Speaker 7: questioning from the media on this issue. Today Reese faced
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  Speaker 7: the media and this is what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look in his defense, just having a laugh
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  Speaker 1: with my mate.
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  Speaker 8: Obviously, you know we don't support violence and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, it's not a good good look for you know,
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  Speaker 8: myself and that or haven't trying to have.
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  Speaker 7: A laugh and okay, trying to have a laugh. But
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  Speaker 7: this line violence, why was violence brought up? In my opinion,
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  Speaker 7: that was the line that the Broncos probably said. If
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  Speaker 7: you get asked from the media a question about this,
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  Speaker 7: just say you do not condone violence, and push on
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  Speaker 7: that and push on that. It's got nothing to do
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  Speaker 7: with violence. It happened in a private residence. It's toommates
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  Speaker 7: consenting to having fun. And yet apparently Reese Walsh was
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  Speaker 7: forced to talk about how he's working to be a
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  Speaker 7: better person.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, we're working really hard here to you know, obviously
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  Speaker 8: be the best versions of ourselves and be the best
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  Speaker 8: footy player. So you know we're working extremely hard. We're
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  Speaker 8: behind Madge, supporting him and you know, really excited for
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  Speaker 8: the journey. These are these times when it's tough, a
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  Speaker 8: sort of the ones that you know, bring the people
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  Speaker 8: out and see what we're really made.
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  Speaker 7: On me, I'm so baffled as to why he's apologizing
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  Speaker 7: for this.
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  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 7: Now, the footy club this afternoon actually concluded their investigation
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  Speaker 7: and they say that he will now need to make
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  Speaker 7: a donation to the black Dog Institute and not for
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  Speaker 7: profit mental health research organization.
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  Speaker 1: For his actions, and he's also not.
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  Speaker 7: Going to be facing any further discipline reaction. Look what blokes,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, James, what blokes haven't mucked around? I mean,
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if you've ever punched a mate in
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  Speaker 7: the face like that, but you know, I just my
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  Speaker 7: only criticism would be, maybe don't post it on social media,
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  Speaker 7: maybe have a think, keep it between your mates.
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  Speaker 2: But seriously, come on, did he get you've met my
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  Speaker 2: twin boys? I have so Christmas a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: We're enjoying Christmas afternoon and they got out some boxing
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  Speaker 3: gloves and decided to do kickboxing. So I didn punch
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  Speaker 3: each other, but kick each other, and I filmed that.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I didn't upload it, so I didn't get in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Boys are being boys. But the biggest insult is not
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  Speaker 3: to the footballer. The biggest insult is to you and
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  Speaker 3: I the public. As if somehow the Broncos or the
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  Speaker 3: Karens in NRL headquarters think that we don't understand the
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  Speaker 3: difference between boys mucking around and doing what boys do.
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  Speaker 3: And you might not like it, and you might think
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  Speaker 3: it was inappropriate, but that's the sort of thing that
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  Speaker 3: boys do when they get together. But we know the
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  Speaker 3: difference between that and violence. So to have him come
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  Speaker 3: and stand before the media and say I don't condone violence.
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  Speaker 2: Should we have every.
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  Speaker 3: Father who play fights with his kids come out and
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  Speaker 3: say I don't condone violence. It's insulting to us. Beyond that,
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  Speaker 3: boys will be boys. NRL players are chosen not because
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  Speaker 3: they sit around eating SCons and drinking cups of tea.
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  Speaker 2: NRL players they're chosen.
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  Speaker 3: Because they run flat out at each other, into each other,
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  Speaker 3: risking life and limb. So when they're not playing football,
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  Speaker 3: they're the sort of guys so who do punch each
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  Speaker 3: other in the face for fun. That's the kind of
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  Speaker 3: people they are. And you speak about mental health, consider
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  Speaker 3: the mental health of a twenty two year old kid
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  Speaker 3: who's dragged before the media, shamed before the media totally
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  Speaker 3: has to say that he doesn't condone violence.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever happened to thoughts about his mental health.
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  Speaker 3: He's a kid who just happens to be good at football,
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  Speaker 3: that's his skill. But then we expect him to be
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  Speaker 3: this otherworldly person who's not like a normal twenty two
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  Speaker 3: year old. I mean the damage it does for him.
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  Speaker 3: And finally, Dinika.
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  Speaker 2: Before a throat to you, Franks, I can see you're
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  Speaker 2: itching to.
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  Speaker 3: Get Can we please just take a joke these days,
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  Speaker 3: to have some fun.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's almost like the journalists creating this whole beat
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  Speaker 5: up have never watched a game of NRL in their lives.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 5: That is far more violent, far more aggressive, far more
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  Speaker 5: dangerous than this silly little dare with a glove on
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  Speaker 5: with the whole group of friends laughing about it, Like,
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  Speaker 5: come on, it's the biggest beat up ever it must
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  Speaker 5: have been a slow news day for these journalists.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they racket.
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  Speaker 7: But the questions that the media were actually asking you,
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  Speaker 7: because I watched that for press conference, I subjected myself
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  Speaker 7: to it. But they were like, are you remorseful? Why
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  Speaker 7: did you do it? Should you have done it?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 7: And the guy, I mean, how many times can the
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  Speaker 7: guy repeat himself? He had to obviously say that line,
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  Speaker 7: we don't condone violence, We don't condone violence, because that
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  Speaker 7: was the line that the Broncos would have told him
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  Speaker 7: to say. But he's only twenty two. As you said,
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  Speaker 7: come on, let boys be boys. The Karens of the
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  Speaker 7: community games.
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  Speaker 3: I think a lot of people watch that press conference Danika,
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  Speaker 3: because he's quite a good looking twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Two year old.
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  Speaker 1: But not bad.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on.
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  Speaker 3: There's a chronic shortage of male teachers in our schools
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  Speaker 3: and maybe that's why we're having a bit of problem
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  Speaker 3: with boys.
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  Speaker 2: Check out this.
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  Speaker 3: Australia's male teacher shortage has sparked calls for how to attract.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: More men into the teaching workforce.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: In primary schools, fe male teachers outnumber male teachers by four.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Hundred and fifty percent. It's in primary schools.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: In secondary schools it's seventy percent in twenty twenty two
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: in all of New South Wales. Freyer, Guess how many
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: boys graduating from high school in twenty twenty two in
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: this state listed teaching as their number one thing they
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: wanted to do.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, two.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Hundred and ten out of it all the year twelve cohort,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: two hundred and ten boys said teaching was their number
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: one career choice, and that was twenty four percent less
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: than the year before. A Macquarie University study was done
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one and they said, on current projections,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: by twenty sixty seven, there will not be a male
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: teacher in any school in Australia if.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: This trend continues.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Now, what's interesting is that education departments and governments right
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: around the country have plans to attract more teachers. Were
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: all aware theneaker of the teacher shortage, and they've got
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: plans to attract more indigenous teachers. But there's not a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: single plan to attract more males into teaching.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's a problem. What do you reckon?
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: No, I don't think it's a problem. I don't know
• 18:10
  Speaker 7: why we need to attract more males into teaching. In
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: the end, I don't care if you are a male
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: or a female. I don't care who you are, as
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: long as you are the best person for the job,
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: the best person to inspire and teach the young minds
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: the next generation.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Your gender means absolutely nothing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Let me break in.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Boys and girls are different, right, and especially when they're young,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: they learn differently, don't you think.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Okay, that's fine, and I agree in that sense, but
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: I don't think it matters.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I think it is up to the.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: Best person for the job, the most the best teacher
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: for the job, James. I mean, okay, we sit around
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: and we talk about gender quotas. Yep, Okay, we say no,
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: we don't want gender quotas for women because that's offensive,
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: because a woman should not get a job based on
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: the fact that she's a woman. She should earn it
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: through a merit and earn it through hard work. This
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: is literally the shoe on the other foot. This is
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: basically gender quotas for men.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: No one's calling for quote, I know, but no one's.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Calling for quotas.
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: But I'm saying this is a kin to saying we
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: need more quotas.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: No it's a kin to saying there's a massive disparity here.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: And we all know that boys learn differently. We all know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: especially little boys, their behavior is different. And I think
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: any parent would know, especially if you've got boys, some
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: male teachers in the classroom would be really, really.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Harmful for their self.
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: I would suggest that we look at attracting the best talent.
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: There was a story recently where there are teachers going
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: through the system that when they do their year twelve
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: exams they're eight are they're getting a thirty nine? That
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: is talking about very poor academic performers. The focus should
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: be on how we can attract the best more and
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: put more resourcing into teaching our teachers, not if you're
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: male or female.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Freyer, what do you think, Well, I think we need
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: to have more Well. I think firstly, before we even
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: talk about male teachers, we need young boys to have
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: positive male role models. And I think that is lacking.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: The number of children growing up that fathers is increasing,
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: broken homes, and now if they're not even encountering male teachers,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: you can go, you know, your whole childhood really without
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: encountering a positive male role model. Now, I think that
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: is scary so can male teachers play a role in
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: fixing that for sure? Now, I think one of the
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: challenges in the education system is it has been so
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: feminized that it really benefits girls the way you learn
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: the whole system. But boys they're often written off as undisciplined, rowdy.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Let's just put them on ADHD medication so they can
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: be quiet, and I think that that probably trickles through
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: that negative experience of education the boys have going through
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: the system probably means a lot of them are turned
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: off from having the career. Now, my brother actually is
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: training to be at primary school teacher at the moment,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: bucking the trend. Shout out to Oliver and what it
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: was for him was he was a basketball coach and
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: he never considered teaching, but he loved teaching the kids basketball.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: And so maybe this is the avenue to recruit more
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: men because eighty percent of sports coaches and men.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: So that could be the jump.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: You go, Hey, you might not have thought about teaching
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: because it is typically a female dominated field, but you
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: actually do like children, you do like seeing them improved,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: and this is a way you can do it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: What you said ring is true for me because two boys,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: one of my boys went through a bit of a
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: difficult patch in primary school.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: He was just naughty and he was.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Constantly in trouble until he got his first male teacher.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: And the male teacher was brilliant because he just understood
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: the boy and realized, you know what, he just needs
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: a bit of and instead of just having his tight
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: rain on him, gave him a bit of room. Treated
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: him differently as to the female teachers. Made a massive difference.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: But the other question we should ask is why don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: young men want to do teaching. That's a very interesting question,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I think, and there's reasons around that they're so badly paid,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: but also I think male teachers are desperately afraid of.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Being accused of doing that thing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I read one story of a guy who was in
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: a teaching interview desperately want to be a teacher. In fact,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: they said why do you want to be a teacher?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So I just love young kids, and he said the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: moment those words left his mouth, the atmosphere in the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: room changed and he thought, oh.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I've just said the wrong thing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Well, he decided not to continue with teaching based on
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: the reaction in that interview because he thought, do I
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: really want a career where every single.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: Action is takes one student is double guest. Yeah, one student,
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: one student to wreck the life of a male teacher. Absolutely,
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: I think exactly.
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: Well, let's move on to the US now.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump is always up to something, and this time
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: he has announced the concepts for his revolutionary air defense system.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: This is called the Golden Missile Defense Program, and it
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: is pretty incredible.
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: What it is is a multi layered system.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: It's going to cost at least two hundred billion dollars
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and it will have the ability to intercept missiles at
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: every stage of their journey, so it'll be able to
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: detect them before they're even launched. It can shoot them
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: down mid air, and as they're descending onto their targets,
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: they can also shoot them down. Now, the Americans help
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: the Israelis develop their Iron Dome system, which has completely
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: transformed the country. And this is really critical now because
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: we know North Korea now has ballistic missiles. They have
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: successfully tested them and they are able to reach any
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: part of the United States. Iran is about ten years
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: away from achieving space launched into continental ballistic missiles, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: those missiles can then be converted into nuclear weapons as well,
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: so this is really the new avenue of warfare. It'll
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: be the first time the US has put weapons into space.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: But they have to because as well, China and Russia
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: have said they are now building a nuclear power plant
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: in space. I mean, we can't even build one on
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: land in Australia, but Russia and China are building it
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: in space.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: It's pretty incredible.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: So Trump is very excited about this, and apparently Canada
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: is also keen to get involved in the action.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: This is what he had to say about them.
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: It's a believial world out there, so this is something
• 24:29
  Speaker 9: that goes a long way towards the survival of this
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: great country. And as they said, we'll be discussing Canada.
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: They want to hook in and they want to see
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: if they can be a part of it, and sort
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: of makes sense.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I guess that's what I was talking about from day one.
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: You know, it just automatically makes sense, and it will
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: be very difficult to do, but they'll pay their fair share.
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: If there are intercontinental ballistic missiles coming from space, I
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: think we will all want to be part of the
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: air defense system that stops that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: Please, let us get in on the action.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Trump went on to explain how his plan for the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Golden Dome was inspired by Israel's Iron Dome.
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: intercepting missiles even if they are launched from other sides
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: of the world, and even if they are launched from space,
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: and we will have the best system ever built. As
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: you know, we helped Israel with theirs and it was
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: very successful. And now we have technology that's even far
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: advanced from that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So it's not going to be the Iron Dome. It's
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: going to be the Golden Dome.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I think this is where Trump got the idea from
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Golden Golden Oh.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: Golden dime, Golden cop home.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Trump is saying that this space system, which really was
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: an idea of Ronald Reagan forty years ago, wasn't We
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: called it star Wars. Everybody said it was impossible, and
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I suppose forty years ago it was impossible, but the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: idea was a good one. Israel have proved it, though
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: in a very small area of land with missiles being
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: launched from short range. So the task that Trump is
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: setting is that much greater. It's a huge area he's
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: trying to defend. He's trying to defend against missiles being
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: launched from the other side of the world and from
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: outer space.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It's going to cost them.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Here's been all sorts of reports today, from one hundred
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: billion dollars to up to I saw eight hundred billion dollars.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: But the point is this is the sort of visionary leadership. Yes,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: that is an investment in the safety of Americans. Everyone
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: calls Trump a warmonger. This is not overseas adventurers, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: this is doing something to keep Americans safe.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely well.
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: Again, this is what Donald Trump was elected on his
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: mandate to make America greater again and to keep Americans safe.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: And I think good on him because he's getting on
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: with the job.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, look, it'll be interesting if he can
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: pull it off in that timeframe as well.
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: But Donald Trump is really thinking visionary about the future.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Of warfare, and of course he has to do that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, the Pentagon has been warning for you is
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: that the newest missiles that are being developed by both
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: China and Russia are so advanced that updated countermeasures.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Are needed quickly and urgently.
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: It was also interesting I was reading that the Defense
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Intelligence Agency says that China could a mass dozens of
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: orbiting missiles with nuclear warheads in about ten years time,
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: and that these missiles would be able to get to
• 27:21
  Speaker 7: the United States in significantly less time than conventional intercontinental
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: ballistic missiles. So no wonder Donald Trump is out there
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: trying to move quickly in the event that China or
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: Russia does attack. Now, look, the US does have a
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: number of missile defense capabilities, and of course this Golden Dome,
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: as you mentioned, is akin to Israel's Israel's defense system
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: which has worked really well. There's an interesting statistic that
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: during the twenty twenty one gars A conflict, he must
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: fight about four thousand rockets at Israel and that iron
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: Dome intercepted ninety percent of them, so you can see
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: how successful it is. But this Golden Dome that Donald
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: Trump wants is actually larger, it can cover a larger area,
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: and it is far more sophisticated.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: So you've got Donald Trump forging ahead.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Here in Australia, we've got a situation where our ADF
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: is struggling with recruitments. They're dealing with people wearing gender
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: neutral uniforms. China's laughing at us while they're developing all
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: their ballistic missiles. The US is getting on with it,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: and what are we doing? Exposed and they're laughing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And that old adage.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: You know, if Trump cured cancer, he'd be criticized for
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: putting on cologists out of work. Trump comes up with
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: this idea, and immediately all the critics come out saying, oh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: this is just a way to get money to Elon
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Musk because of course he'll get the contract, and it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: impossible to actually do technologically, and it's going to cost
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: too much. And all the critics come out instead of saying,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: here's someone who's trying to do something to defend future
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: generations of his countrymen.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Will it work?
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, But when you're facing China, Russia, North Korea, Iran,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: and the world, as Trump says, is getting more and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: more dangerous, why would you immediately react with criticism rather
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and saying go ahead. Maybe it's a crazy idea. I
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: don't know, but to your hope that it works, absolutely
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: start with that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, be proud of what your country is doing to
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: try and protect you. Now, look, we need to talk
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: about COVID vaccines because remember when we were when we
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: were told that we had to get our COVID vaccine.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Otherwise we wouldn't be able to go to work, we
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: weren't able to go to restaurants, we weren't able to
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: go to shopping centers, and our lives, which is absolutely
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: tipped upside down.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Look, it's funny how in a couple of years things
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: have really changed because in the US, the Food and
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Drug Administration over there has now decided to make sweeping
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: changes to the eligibility criteria for COVID booster shots. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: and your COVID shots for healthy young adults and children
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: in America will no longer be routinely approved under a
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: very new sweeping policy shift unveiled by the Trump administration.
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: The FDA has released a statement saying that this is
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: intended to create more of a streamlined approach and to
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: quote the FDA Vaccine Division boss been a He says, quote,
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: we're finally falling in line with all the other thoughtful
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: people in the world who think it is ridiculous to
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: give a healthy twelve year old girl her seventh dose
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: without any evidence.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And we're not saying we're never going to do it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: We're just saying, prove to me.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: It helps her before we do it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: Well, what a stunning sentiment that is, isn't it? I mean,
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: perfectly put, And this is the problem. We've gone from mandates.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: We've gone from you can't work, you can't go to restaurants,
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: you can't go about your lives, to suddenly it's no
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: longer being approved. And what a slap in the face
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: for those people whose lives were tipped upside down.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: They lost their careers, they weren't able to go to work, they're.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: Still out of a job simply because they didn't get
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: the vaccine in the first place. Now, I'm not saying
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: that these vaccines didn't work, but the facts that it's
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: no longer being recommended really does speak volumes and authorities
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: have a lot to answer for here for shoving the
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: vaccines down our throats during that entire period, and no
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: wonder they lost faith in their authorities.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: And I've got to say prayer. The left of completely
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: freaking out about this.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: I've seen online they're like, how dare you make these recommendations.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: It's Stockholm syndrome.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: And one of the points that was made is that
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the over promotion of boosters and basically the one size
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: fits all approach to everyone regardless of age one. There's
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: not much science to back that up from a risk
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: benefit perspective. But then also it's created a vaccine fatigue,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: so the rates of vaccinations for other things have declined. Measles,
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: for example, the vaccination rates fallen from around ninety five
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: percent to ninety two percent, and now there is there
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: are measle outbreaks throughout the US. Two people this year
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: have actually died from measles. These are the first measle
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: deaths since twenty fifteen, and that is because people are
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: now so sick of all of these vaccines that they
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: aren't getting vaccinated at all. And that is the terrifying fact,
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: because vaccines are amazing, especially for these preventable diseases that
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: we now have great vaccinations for, but people are ignoring that,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: especially for their children, and that's the real danger in this.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: It's amazing the change we've seen in relationship to the
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: COVID vaccine over just a few short years. Let's go
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: to Victoria quickly, where farmers protested this week over the
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Emergency services levy, which many claim will effectively bankrupt them
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: and mean they'll have to leave their farms. They met
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: outside Victorian Parliament and well, they weren't too complementary to
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: the Victorian Premier over her proposed levee, describing it literally
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: as BS. But not only did they describe it that way,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: they decided to communicate that to the premier, and so
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: they delivered to the front door of the Premier's office.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: What I suppose would be described here is a I'm
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: going to call it a pooh parcel. You can see
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: they're very tastefully put it in a night box, wrapped
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: in tissue paper with some pink string, and they included
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: a note that read, dearest Jacinta, I have considered your
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: levy and here's my feedback. It's BS, love, brutus and family.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Now what's caused a stink, if I could use that term,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: is that the farmers who delivered it to the Premier's
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: office were escorted into that area by a couple of
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: liberal MP's. Of course, Jacinta Allen is outraged, and I.
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: Say disgraceful, because can you imagine coming into any workplace,
• 33:36
  Speaker 10: coming into a hospital, dumping dumping cow manure on a
• 33:42
  Speaker 10: colleague's desk, going into a factory and dumping that in
• 33:45
  Speaker 10: the tea room.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Bev McCarthy who was one of the MP's who allegedly
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: helped the poo parcel be delivered, said labor MPs are
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: acting like they've never seen col s before. Maybe they
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: don't get out of Melbourne so much, which is not
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: a bad comeback. Liberal leader Brad Batten said he wouldn't
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: have done it, but the real issue is not the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: poop parcel, it's what just Sinta Allan is doing to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: the farmers of Victoria.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: Well, it's not something I would have done, but what
• 34:14
  Speaker 11: I do know is yesterday people were very, very angry
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: when it comes to the new taxes that are impacting
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: on farms across Victoria. There is a reason that thousands
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: of farmers came from all over Victoria with their fire trucks,
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: with their uniforms to explain to the Victorian government that
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: they are fed up with ben the feeding cow for
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: this government's budget.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: They are sick.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: I've been taken granted of.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Personally, I think just Into Allen should be glad for
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the pooh parcel. I mean it could be worse.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: She could be a politician in the Netherlands. Have a
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: look at this vision.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Farmers angry at government policies, well, they spread them and
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: you were around, not in a neatly wrapped parcel Deneava.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, they just let government official.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: They've had loose, they've let loose.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I've got to say to me, this stunt in Victoria
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: is sort of more akin to a Greens politician I
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: would have thought than a Liberal.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Do you think I think got lost in the delivery
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: or no?
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: I actually no, I think it's actually pretty funny. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know how just sint to Alan could sit
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: there with it, stand there with it with a straight face.
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: She was very serious and very straight down the light.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: Come on, look, farmers are angry, and you can see
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: why they're angry.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It's a bit of a joke. I think, lighten up.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: She needs to learn how to take a joke. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: also comparing Parliament to somewhere like a hospital, she ruins lives,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: whereas hospitals save lives, and she's ruining these farmers' lives.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: So I think she should be a little more humble,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: drop the victim complex and laugh at the joke.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Well, when justin to Ellen laughs at criticism, that will
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: be an interesting day we when we go to a break,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: when we come back, but look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce sways in on the coalition bust up and
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: some good news for the trick that of Alzheimer's, that
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: and more in just a moment.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome back.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at tomorrow's headlines and see what
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: we'll be making news on Thursday. The Newcastle Herald goes
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: with the headline Coalition's explosive split. As you can imagine,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: this is still making news we'll do for the rest
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: of the week, I'm sure, but their angle is comments
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: from Barnaby Joyce, Senior National Party MP. Barnaby Joyce believes
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: his party will be better able to promote issues such
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: as the construction of a nuclear power plant in the
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Upper Hunter without the constraints imposed by Coalition partnership. Joyce
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: goes on to say the historic split with the Liberal
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Party was inevitable after the election defeat of the Coalition,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and he says it has to be acknowledged. There's a
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: completely different worldview in the Hunter Valley where the Nationals
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: have a very strong representation compared to say Waringa in
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the northern beaches of Sydney. Fourth time there's been a
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: fracture in the coalition. I think Barnaby Joyce probably makes
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: a pretty good point. Freyer, you're looking at me like
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you don't agree, But surely it's easier for them to
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: promote their policies without having to cowtow to Liberals who
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: were focused on winning back to Youlsey.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: But it was a Liberal policy at the last election.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: The Liberals adopted it, and they might be able to
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: talk about it, but good luck ever building it, because
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: you'll never be in government without a coalition with the law.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: To be fair to Barnaby Joyce, the Liberals aren't sure
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: whether they're going to go with it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: It's under review, but if past election commitment to anything
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: to go by, I don't I'm not buying this whole
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: line that the Liberals are going to chuck out nuclear
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: at all, and so I just think this is him
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: trying to rationalize a very silly decision on the part
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: of the National Party.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I do hope that Barnaby Joyce is okay.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's obviously getting his cancer treatment and he's
• 37:54
  Speaker 7: probably thinking, thank goodness right now. I'm actually it's not
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: here dealing with this fallout. But I've got to say
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: to be honest. I think he makes a very good point,
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: and I've said this other show last night. The Liberals
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: need to continue with this nuclear policy and they need
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: to get it out there and sell it to the
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: public over the next three years because the Nats cannot
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: do it alone. I do agree on that point. The
• 38:15
  Speaker 7: Nets cannot do this policy alone. It has to be
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: a coalition. They'll probably come together back at some point,
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: but they've got to sell nuclear.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: I think the Nets can't win government alone, that's true,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: but I think that's also begging on the fact the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Liberal Party can't win government without the Nationals.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That's true, and so there's leverage both ways.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: And that's the reality.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: You have to have nuclear if you want to have
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: any hope of abandoning that zero. So if the Liberals
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: abandoned nuclear, well then they're abandoning that zero as well.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: And I really don't see that happening. So this is
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: the only path forward.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Unless the Liberal Party completely embrace renewables, well that would
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: be disased.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: That would be an interesting mood.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't put it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: We'll wait and see.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Now let's move on to the Daily Telegraph, where we
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: are in hot Water Tapa funded handouts, combined with poor regulation,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: have allowed Australian homes to be flooded with dodgy and
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: potentially dangerous hot water systems, a crisis that has been
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: described as pink Bats version two. Industry experts have warned
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: lucrative government discounts which lasts which until last year allowed
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: some new heat pumps to be installed for free, have
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: unleashed cowboy workers who have been selling cheaper Chinese made
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: products to unsuspecting customers.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like this is always the way.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: When you start giving out free stuff, you will always
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: have the people that want to jump on that bandwagon
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: and wrought the system. So I can't say I'm particularly surprised, James.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: The Building Commission did inspections and they found of the
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: hot water systems newly installed that they inspected, guess how
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: many were compliant?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Nine percent? Can you believe that?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: And so they're comparing it to the pink Back's fe
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: yes go and rightly so maybe not as dangerous.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think as the pink bats, where people died.
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: That was really really bad, but still nonetheless like heading
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: into winter, that is very concerning. When you've only got
• 40:12
  Speaker 7: nine percent, that is a very worrying statistic.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: I'm actually I'm quite puzzled how it has come to this.
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't understand how it's actually come to
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: this level.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: And if it's taxpayer funded as well, how are they
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: what is the process for them to get this money?
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: How's the funding all working? This seems really dodgy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, clearly, no, I completely agree.
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: Let's move on to The Australian for tomorrow a couple
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: of really good stories there. We'll start with self identifying
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: activists undermining genuine Aboriginal democracies. We're Adualie Leader Roy RC,
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: a former Indigenous policy advisor to the Coalition, says self
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: identifying Aboriginal activists frustrated with moderates are breaking apart a
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: statewide network of land councils, threatening one of Australia's few
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: effective Aboriginal demos proceeds. The former co chair of the
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: Prime Minister's Indigenous Advisory Council says activists with fringe ideals
• 41:05
  Speaker 7: are establishing dissident groups to block developments and delegitimize the
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: network of one hundred and twenty one land councils across
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: New South Wales that are by law representative bodies for
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: Indigenous people in specific areas.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Now, look, he.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: Actually raises quite a very good point our audience. You'd
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: remember that the Blainey Mind decision here in New South
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: Wales where Tanya Plibisec decided to overturn that decision, and
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: that was due to the fact that there was a
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: group of an Aboriginal group about eighteen people said that
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: they didn't want it, and she listened to them as
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: opposed to the actual local.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Land council there.
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: I think from memory it was the Orange Local Land
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: Council said no, it's okay to put the Blaaney mind
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: on that particular patch of land, and royalc has been
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: very vocal about this issue.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So I think he raises a good point.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: If you're not going to go to the land council
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: and you're going to listen to these fringe groups, then
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: there's never going to be any productivity or development in
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: this country.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: He goes on to say that these self appointed claimants
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: have become so common. Members of land councils around the
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: country now have an acronym sex self appointed Claimants that
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: they use for these people identifying as indigenous and then
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: making claims on various properties. It's just so common it's
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: almost become cliched amongst Land council members themselves.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: And this was part of the concern with the Voice
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: to Parliament. If you establish another one of these bodies,
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: the challenge is that activists have a lot to gain
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: by infiltrating and taking them over and then using them
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: for political purposes or just profit and self promotion, as
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: is the case here. And unfortunately, the people that always
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: suffer from the activist class are the disadvantage, the people
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: who don't have the time or the energy to get
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: onto these councils to fight for themselves, and then they
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: eventually get hijacked by activists.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the madness of dividing people up
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: by race, and detain always if I race, because then
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: you've got to do racial tests to work out who's who,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: who's who exactly?
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Why can't we discribe it then?
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: And then but then suddenly you know, there's a rainbow
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: serpent in every river and in every part of the country.
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: So you know, this is why you actually got to
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: go to the right people, not these little fringe groups.
• 43:16
  Speaker 7: Otherwise again, there'll never be any any development in this
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: country now. The other story on the front page of
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: The Australian is Dopitch Morn's for abusive dad.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Tennis champion Jolena.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: Dokicch's notorious father Demir has died and she says it
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: signals the end of a chapter marred by heartbreaking trauma.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It's understood he had cancer.
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: Demir had been known as the tennis dad from Hell
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: and had reaped havoc, abusive havoc on and off the
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: court for Elena, a talent once heralded as Australia's greatest
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: tennis hope since Evon Gulagong. In a post Instagram, Eulena
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: spoke about the difficult and complicated grief associated with losing
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: her father, who she had not spoken to for over
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: a decade. Look, you know, I remember watching tennis when
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: I was younger and just seeing this play play out.
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: It was it was actually awful to see. They obviously
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: had a very fractured relationship. He was her coach for
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: a very long time, and I remember reading she was
• 44:08
  Speaker 7: just so unhappy and it really really drove her to
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: the brink.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, at one point he knocked her unconscious.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: She tells in the story she reached number four in
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: the world and even then that was not enough. Of course,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: her tennis career lifted her family out of poverty. They
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: benefited greatly, but she really never had that relationship with
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: her father. He passed away. It's been a decade since
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: she last spoke to him. But I must say, if
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: you read that article in The Australian tomorrow, what comes
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: through is a woman who on the inside she's not embitted,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: she's not enraged. She sounds like someone who's really come
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: through that and kept a soft heart through it all.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: And full credit to her, she's got incredible strength to
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: the landa Dockic. It was just a great Australian And that's.
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: Always the challenge in these scenarios, Like obviously he was
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: horribly abusive, but he was also her father, and so
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: as a human being processing both of those emotions at
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: once at a time like this, I really feel for
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: it and I hope she's doing well.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right, before we go to a break,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: some good news on the front page of Tomorrow's Melbourne
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Herald's son Hope for Rescuing Memories, reads the headlines.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: This is an exclusive story by Robin Riley.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: A new drug to treat the early stages of Alzheimer's
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: disease has now been approved for use in Australia. The
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: drug is made by pharmaceutical giant Ellie Lilly and already
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: in use in the US, the UK, China and Japan.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: It's been widely tested in clinical trials here in Australia
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: and the drug's approval has just been given.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: So we flagged this. I think it was a couple
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: There were some stories doing around saying this was likely
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: to happen, and of course Alzheimer's disease, which affects so
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: many people so tragically, I can imagine people would be
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: grasping for any hope and a glimmer of hope for
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: treatment with people suffering.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It's fantastic here, it really, really is.
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: Any sort of cure for this awful, awful disease is wonderful.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: And it's also just so encouraging.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: Whenever I see these feats of human progress, it's like,
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: go humanity. We actually are capable of incredible breakthroughs. This
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: would be unimaginableter generations passed so good on these scientists.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of incredible breakthroughs and hope for humanity and
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: inspiring deeds. Wait until you hear about the French world record.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to show you after the break.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Well, an unusual crime in the western suburbs of Melbourne,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure how committed police are to solving
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: this one. Back in April, some bella clava wearing men
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: stole a fiberglass cow statue called Betsy from outside a business.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Now Betsy, as you can see there, you can see
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: the bella clava wearing men grabbing Betsy and they load
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: it onto the back of a ute and take off
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Betsy's work about three and.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: A half thousand dollars. So police are appealing for help
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: to find Betsy and return her to her owner. I say,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not that sure police are really that serious, because
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: listen to the police media release. They say that it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: a quote high stakes theft. They say that the thieves
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: move Betsy, and they go on to say that the
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: owners are utterly devastated. I think the police are having
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: a little too much fun making dad jokes rather than
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: finding the thieves. But there, you know, if you know
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: anything about Betsy's whereabouts, call the Victorian police interrupt their
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: pun festives.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: And going to the effort of dressing up in your balaklava,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: getting your hold in commodore out driving down to steal
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: this piperglass cow.
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: It's strange and I mean just a vision of that
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: cow on the back of a trail going down that road.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Iconic.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Now, in other iconic news, a small town in western
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: France has broken in the world record for the greatest
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: number of Smurf costumed.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: People gathered whoa one place.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: They had more than three thousand people come out for
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: this event, which took place in a town of only
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: sixteen thousand people. So that town is really punching above
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: its way. Now, this record was previously held by a
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: German town that reached the unassailable number of two thousand,
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: seven hundred smurfs back in twenty nineteen. But alas, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: French have conquered once again. Now one smurfett said, we
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: have smurfed the record, and another one, an eighty two
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: year old, said a friend encouraged her to join, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: she thought, why not. It's giving the French junasqua.
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: Why not dress up in a smurf.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Oh fry, I mean ripping out the frame.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: I didn't high school French for nothing.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Well, what is that in French? It's at stromps.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I prefer prays.
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna I'll see myself out now.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Today I'm so hard about this is it's the third
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: time they tried to break the Smurf record. They tried
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty failed on a technicality, tried in twenty
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: twenty three, failed because of rain, but they finally achieved
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: fame and fortune for their town and Fray. Your parents
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: will be thrilled to hear your friends being used to
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: such good effect.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: That's my stick around. Coming up is the read a
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Pennanty show. Good Night,