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AEW Hot Topics | Golden Lovers · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Ignition sequent sty six five four three two
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  Speaker 1: one zero, all engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Wednesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the aw Fanta Podcasting. This is Kelson. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: we're returning after a couple of weeks. I guess, hiatus,
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  Speaker 2: I've been under the weather. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: can tell by the interesting sound of my voice, my
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  Speaker 2: sultry sexy voice, that I've gotten now one at a time. Ladies, seriously,
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  Speaker 2: ooh Kilsen, I said, ladies, Well, you know I can't help.
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  Speaker 2: But if I have that effect on everybody, I am
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  Speaker 2: golden lover. Oh god, Yeah, that's kind of a lame
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  Speaker 2: thing to say to get into this first segment. But
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  Speaker 2: Todo Bushie net net you've been begging for Kodo Bushie
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  Speaker 2: for weeks now and months months even. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: gotta go to you. I mean, you're getting what you wanted.
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  Speaker 2: You got Kodo Bushie back in aw I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be honest to you with you. I want to hear
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  Speaker 2: what you have to say. When I saw Kodo Boushie,
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  Speaker 2: I looked at his physique. I was like, Wow, this
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  Speaker 2: dude looks good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, he was coming back, and I know
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people doubted him, but I sincerely believed
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  Speaker 3: that he was going to come back, and I think
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  Speaker 3: it was just phenomenal. Unfortunately, I wasn't at that show.
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  Speaker 3: They are in and around CEA this week. I saw
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people I know on TV, but I
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  Speaker 3: decided not to go to the shows where they're having it.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of hard to get to. But I've seen
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  Speaker 3: a bullsham person before, so I don't miss it too much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just glad that he's back. I hope he and
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  Speaker 3: Kenny reunite, perhaps as the Golden Lovers, and take over
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  Speaker 3: the tag team division again.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see, I'm here for We agreed. If I only
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  Speaker 4: had one complaint is that I was sort of hoping
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  Speaker 4: that when Coda came back, Kenny would be present for it.
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  Speaker 4: Can you imagine seeing Kenny's face light up? I am
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  Speaker 4: getting kicky feet just thinking about it, You.
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  Speaker 5: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Both, Yeah, very much. Well, look, don't forget. July second,
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  Speaker 2: which is one week from tonight, is the three hundredth
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  Speaker 2: episode of Dynamite. So if you're going to do something special,
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  Speaker 2: especially a week before all in, why not reunite Kenny
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  Speaker 2: Omega and Kodo Boushi. I'm dynamite three hundred.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be amazing.
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  Speaker 4: I absolutely can't wait.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 7: And I just hope that this all works out well
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  Speaker 7: and they can they can do some amazing things together.
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  Speaker 8: Well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to put any kind of a damper
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  Speaker 2: on this lovely discussion, but is anybody considering that this
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  Speaker 2: is all a ruse and Kodo Boushie is going to
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  Speaker 2: betray Kenny Omega?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: I kind of thought there was somebody posting it. They
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  Speaker 7: wanted to know what would be your worst case scenario
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  Speaker 7: for the different matches that.
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  Speaker 9: Go on at all In and I think one of
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  Speaker 9: the ones I said was I think one of the
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  Speaker 9: ones I said was Kenny comes out a Boushie turns
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  Speaker 9: on and joins the don Kallis family or uh so
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  Speaker 9: that could I could see that happening where I could
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  Speaker 9: see the Bucks and and them actually getting together and
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  Speaker 9: Kenny and Abushi joined them, but not in a good way.
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  Speaker 4: Do not people into the world, you know it.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to what Sutton just said,
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  Speaker 2: because at the aw Fantop subreddit there is a topic
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  Speaker 2: that somebody posted is basically it says, what is your
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  Speaker 2: worst case scenario booking for all in And practically everybody
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  Speaker 2: said Moxley wins. I mean, there's not anybody that said
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  Speaker 2: Hangman wins put it that way, you know, but they've
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  Speaker 2: And of course there were some funny things that people said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Moxley wins, and you know Wendy Richter causes
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  Speaker 2: causes hang Man to Its just all kinds of weird stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Anybody have a worst case scenario putting people on the
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  Speaker 2: spot here, what is your worst case scenario for all
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  Speaker 2: in mind? Frankly, is that Maxley wins.
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  Speaker 10: Minds that too, But I don't.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think it's a good idea to have Mercedes
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  Speaker 11: Monet win. That's just my opinion. I know people disagree,
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  Speaker 11: but I don't. I don't want to see Monet have
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  Speaker 11: all the belts.
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  Speaker 6: No, she needs to start losing belts.
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  Speaker 7: To be honest, giving her every belt she goes up
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  Speaker 7: for is making it a It's not making it a
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  Speaker 7: good thing to me, it's making it a joke. What's
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  Speaker 7: the point of having those belts anywhere? All she's gonna
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  Speaker 7: do is go in and win a match in especially
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  Speaker 7: like when she went over to uh was it Norway
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  Speaker 7: somewhere over there.
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  Speaker 2: In the Austria, in Austria, and.
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  Speaker 7: When she never wrestled there before, when in one match
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  Speaker 7: in one and won the belt just so that she
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  Speaker 7: can get on Dekla, who has absolutely nothing to do.
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  Speaker 2: With her right now, so that I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: has anything to do with Tekla, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just forgetting her getting belts. Let's face it,
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  Speaker 2: your sonton all right, as far as myself goes, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna pretty much say everybody here goes, it's the
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  Speaker 2: e w A title that she want to believe it's
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  Speaker 2: called uh okay yep before prefer Mercedes Monet won that title.
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  Speaker 2: That anybody in America know that there was an e
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  Speaker 2: w A title. You know that that could be one
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  Speaker 2: in Austria.
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  Speaker 7: But the point is the bad thing is they may
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  Speaker 7: not have known it was a title, but I guarantee
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  Speaker 7: you not very many people care because it's a it's
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  Speaker 7: a title that nobody's ever heard of.
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  Speaker 5: So that's here's the thing, though, Sidon is when Kenny
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  Speaker 5: o'maga was doing being about collector, what was your reaction
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  Speaker 5: to that. Let me ask you that.
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  Speaker 8: So if you if you want a real reaction, here's
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  Speaker 8: my real reaction.
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  Speaker 7: And everybody will disagree with me on this, but I
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  Speaker 7: don't think that Monette is the wrestler that everybody else
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  Speaker 7: thinks she is.
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  Speaker 8: To me, she's the exact same person she was in WWE.
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  Speaker 5: Answering my question, give.
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  Speaker 7: Into it, give me a second. Keny Omega was actually
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  Speaker 7: working and winning those matches and putting people over and
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  Speaker 7: doing things for those companies. She's got six belts now,
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  Speaker 7: and what's she doing for those companies? Yeah, she goes
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  Speaker 7: out and she does interviews, but she doesn't do the
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  Speaker 7: interviews that she'll talk about AW four, five or six
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  Speaker 7: minutes and then it's all about her. She's held those
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  Speaker 7: belts for over a year.
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  Speaker 2: I totally disagree with you.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, Well, the interviews I've seen her do, she talks
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  Speaker 7: about AEW or the belt that she's talking about for
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  Speaker 7: five minutes, and then it's all about what she's doing
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  Speaker 7: and what she's going to do and how she's doing things.
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  Speaker 7: You can't put belts on somebody and keep them for
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  Speaker 7: a year and think that's a good thing, because that's
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  Speaker 7: six belts that she is congested that nobody else can have.
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  Speaker 7: There's no competition for him. She barely defends the the
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  Speaker 7: TBS title anymore, and all she's doing is accumulating belts.
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  Speaker 8: What's the point So you're annoyed by it?
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  Speaker 5: Well, guess I'm annoyed by it.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's a joke.
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  Speaker 6: Be perfectly honest with you.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's a joke. And I agree with ms MK.
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  Speaker 7: If she wins the AW title, that will destroy the
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  Speaker 7: AW Women's division, because what's the point in having all
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  Speaker 7: the other people competing it when you're just going to
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  Speaker 7: give a belt to somebody who.
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  Speaker 8: Just for the fun of it. She's There's no way
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  Speaker 8: she should be.
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  Speaker 1: I will.
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  Speaker 2: Let Rolins let Rolands say his opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Now, So guess what you're getting the exact react, given
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  Speaker 5: the exact reaction that AW and Mercedes want. They want
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  Speaker 5: you to be annoyed by her belt collecting. Like the
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  Speaker 5: reason I asked you about did you were you okay
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  Speaker 5: with Kenny Omega being the belt collector is because it's
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  Speaker 5: I feel like it's the same thing they.
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  Speaker 7: Kenny to compare money to Kenny Omega, it's like comparing
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  Speaker 7: uh Paul Hogan to uh, I'm.
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  Speaker 5: Not comparing wrestlers though. That's not what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: You're saying that it's okay, you're you're for.
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  Speaker 7: What I'm getting from you is that you're saying, okay, well,
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  Speaker 7: Monet winning all these belts is the same as when
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  Speaker 7: Omega won all the belts, and it's not because Kenny
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  Speaker 7: Omega actually deserves to win all those titles.
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  Speaker 8: To me, all the titles that she's won, she's been.
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  Speaker 2: Hit again again. This is just your opinion. We all
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  Speaker 2: know if anybody who's been listening to this podcast for
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  Speaker 2: the last year something who's expressing his opinion hates most
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monette not quite as much. I don't think, not
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  Speaker 2: quite as much as you hate a Baker. But but
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  Speaker 2: you've never had anything nice to say about Mercedes Monette.
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  Speaker 7: This great wrestler, and she's not changed from when she
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  Speaker 7: was in WWE.
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  Speaker 8: That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: That's my biggest problem is she's the exact same wrestler
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  Speaker 7: that she was in WWE, and she wasn't that good there.
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  Speaker 10: I agree with something in the part.
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  Speaker 11: Hold on, I agree with something in a part because
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  Speaker 11: Kenny Omega when he was at Tenna he at least
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  Speaker 11: had matches with several other people and didn't win and
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  Speaker 11: then leave and never return. That's the problem I have
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  Speaker 11: with If you're gonna have belts, you need to stay
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  Speaker 11: in those, you need to go back and defending them.
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  Speaker 11: Kenny Omega is great, and I'm not saying that Mercedes
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  Speaker 11: Monette is not a good, solid wrestler.
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  Speaker 10: I have no problem.
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  Speaker 11: She's gotten better a lot of stuff, But Kenny at
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  Speaker 11: least stayed in TNA and made TNA.
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  Speaker 10: A better place.
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  Speaker 11: Hurt by Mercedes and just mentioning those bells doesn't make
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  Speaker 11: it a better place. A better place would be fighting
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  Speaker 11: off championship contender of championship con tender.
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  Speaker 10: That's the problem I have with it.
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  Speaker 2: So look, mer yeah, let me just state something here, rollins,
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  Speaker 2: and then I'll go right back to you. Mercedes Monet
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  Speaker 2: has wrestled in four different continents this year, not four
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  Speaker 2: different countries this year. She's been in Mexico, United States, Japan, Austria, English,
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  Speaker 2: many more than that, England, UK. I mean, so you
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  Speaker 2: know she's out there, and she's been there multiple times.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, when you're talking about somebody who's actually
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  Speaker 2: under contract with one company, uh, she's out there, not
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  Speaker 2: only that, she's doing a lot of promotional work for
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  Speaker 2: you of you, probably more than any any other wrestler
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  Speaker 2: outside of maybe Osprey and Kyle Fletcher. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: understand people not appreciating Mercedes Monet for being in the
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  Speaker 2: ring her ring work, but I don't think that there's
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  Speaker 2: any question that she's not helping aw by what she's
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  Speaker 2: been doing. Rollins, go ahead, and then I want to
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  Speaker 2: hear from Jess, and I want to hear from that
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  Speaker 2: on this.
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  Speaker 5: So to a certain Okay, Sutton an MK, this is
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  Speaker 5: primarily to you two, to a certain extent, I am
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  Speaker 5: playing Devil's advocate on this. Not entirely, though. I just
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  Speaker 5: wanted to get your opinions, more so on the Kenny
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  Speaker 5: Omega stuff, because for the most part, I agree with
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  Speaker 5: what you're saying, at least about Kenny Omega as the
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  Speaker 5: belt collector. But again, you're not supposed to be liking
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  Speaker 5: Mercedes Monette and this whole belt collection and six Belts
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  Speaker 5: Monet or seven Belts Monet whatever, So are they different? Yes?
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  Speaker 5: Were you supposed to like Kenny Omega as the belt collector?
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  Speaker 5: Probably not, but we did anyway. But again, my overall
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  Speaker 5: point is you're not supposed to like that Mercedes Monette
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  Speaker 5: is collecting all these belts.
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  Speaker 2: Justin net. Do you have any opinions on this?
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  Speaker 3: I knew. I think that it's a good thing that
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  Speaker 3: she's collecting all those belts and going all over the
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  Speaker 3: place and beating a lot of what are I haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen all of the previous champions, but a couple of
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  Speaker 3: them I have, and they're good, solid wrestlers. She's bringing
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  Speaker 3: a lot of attention to herself and to a w
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  Speaker 3: and a lot of people from a lot of different
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  Speaker 3: promotions want to get their hands on her. It's an
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  Speaker 3: opening for ae W. It's an opening for her as
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  Speaker 3: a wrestler. One of my favorite wrestlers, Viva Van wants
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  Speaker 3: to wrestle Mercedes Monette. I think that will be fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad that you brought up Viva Van. Viva Van
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  Speaker 2: is signed to AW And do you know how many nets,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you do, how many belts that Viva Van
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  Speaker 2: currently holds.
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  Speaker 10: I think she has five?
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  Speaker 2: She has six?
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  Speaker 3: Six sorry.
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  Speaker 2: So six bays six. And it's actually really cool because
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  Speaker 2: Viva Van and Mercedes Monette are currently in a social
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  Speaker 2: media war is the best way of putting and and uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great thing. And one of the things that
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  Speaker 2: really me about this is that I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you remember this net Back in May of last year,
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  Speaker 2: Viva Van had a non title match against then world
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  Speaker 2: Women's World Champion and current Women's World Champion Tony Storm.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember that? It was on Rampage?
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  Speaker 3: I remember that, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And and Tony Storm made Viva Van look fantastic.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, and if you and.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at Mercedes Monette, everybody she wrestles against,
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  Speaker 2: especially in recent months, meaning like the last six to
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  Speaker 2: eight months, they look fantastic, right. And after this match,
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  Speaker 2: Viva Van went on on Twitter and said, Tony Storm
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  Speaker 2: made that match happen. She did that for me, And
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  Speaker 2: she said, I can't express my paraphrasing. Of course, I
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  Speaker 2: can't express the gratitude that I have for Tony Storms.
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  Speaker 2: She's not only timeless, but she's selfless as well. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the big thing is is that Mercedes Monette,
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  Speaker 2: if she was a babyface character, people would probably love
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  Speaker 2: her a lot more than they do. But I have
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  Speaker 2: no problem with Mercedes Monet doing what she's doing. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: they they are put up your belts and I'll put
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  Speaker 2: up mine kind of thing going back and forth. Look,
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  Speaker 2: right now, Mercedes Monee and Viva Van is not a
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  Speaker 2: high profile feud, so to speak. But it's another case
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  Speaker 2: of Mercedes Monette bringing attention to those six other belts
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  Speaker 2: even though she doesn't have them. She's made them more
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  Speaker 2: visible because I didn't know Viva Van had six belts
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  Speaker 2: until she started talking to Mercedes Monette. That's my point.
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  Speaker 2: And Mercedes Monet has not been like one comment and done.
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  Speaker 2: They've been going at it for like the last week,
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  Speaker 2: and it's been actually very entertaining and very funny. So
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I give it a lot of credit. Well, look,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to stick on the Mercedes Monet topic
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  Speaker 2: very much longer.
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  Speaker 4: Let me I say something real Wig, go ahead, Jess, Sorry,
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  Speaker 4: I just didn't want to talk over anyone. As far
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  Speaker 4: as being a face goes, I'll just say no, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 4: but Mercedes Money is a terrible face.
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  Speaker 8: Agreed, just just awful.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm agreeing with you and with Net. And
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  Speaker 4: this is despite the fact that when Mercedes first showed
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  Speaker 4: up and she was a face, I couldn't stand her.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, as of someone who was a fan of
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  Speaker 4: Sasha Banks, I'm like, that happened to you? Why when
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  Speaker 4: did you get lame? But once she turned heel and
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  Speaker 4: started going again, like, there you are, that's much better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was one of the people just that had
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  Speaker 2: no real exposure to Sasha Banks when she was in WWE.
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  Speaker 2: So when she came to AW, I was excited because
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  Speaker 2: I knew who she was, and I knew that she
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be really, really good. I was not
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  Speaker 2: impressed when she cut that long, nonsensical whatever she did
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  Speaker 2: in Boston in big business and wasn't untild. They actually
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  Speaker 2: made her a heel that I was like, Oh, now
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  Speaker 2: I get it. But I used to make fun of her,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a lot, for like the first two months
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  Speaker 2: that she was in AW. But she changed my mind
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  Speaker 2: because she did get better, you know, and she did
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  Speaker 2: get into a groove, which is all you can ask for.
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  Speaker 2: I want to move on because I'm really excited about this. Look,
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  Speaker 2: we've got three matches at all. In what I mean
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  Speaker 2: when I say matches one on one matches, of course,
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  Speaker 2: you got Tony Storm and Mercedes Monet. You got John
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  Speaker 2: Moxley and hang Man Adam Page. Both of those are
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  Speaker 2: put of respective women's and men's World championships, right, But
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  Speaker 2: then you also have Kenny Omega and gazuchko O Kata Katsachka.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry Okata for the unified belt, right, and that's it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: when you look at the roster, and I know that
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  Speaker 2: Rollins brought this up, like what's going on with MGF,
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  Speaker 2: Well you can expand that what's going on with Swerve
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  Speaker 2: and Osprey and you know other men and frankly other
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  Speaker 2: women on the roster. When you look at it, let's
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  Speaker 2: just say that they had Swerve against Osprey or no,
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  Speaker 2: let's just say Swerve against MGF. That would be kind
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  Speaker 2: of a throwaway match, would it not be? Because everybody's
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  Speaker 2: going to be more focused on vers I believe more
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  Speaker 2: people would be focused on the you know, mox Lee
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  Speaker 2: and Hangman match, right. So what did they do? And
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a brilliant, brilliant move is that
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  Speaker 2: aw is announced that there's going to be both a
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  Speaker 2: men's and women's Casino Gauntlet match at all in brilliant move.
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  Speaker 2: I really do think this and I want to get
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  Speaker 2: everybody's opinion on this.
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  Speaker 11: I agree My thing is I'm wondering how they're going
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  Speaker 11: to work it into the card and make it still
• 20:51
  Speaker 11: manageable and make it still excitable. That's my only wonder,
• 20:55
  Speaker 11: But I think it's a great idea.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Anybody else.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: My biggest issue is not since I am the one
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: who like mentioned it, like I loved the MJF will
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Osprey feud going into All In last year. I that
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: was one of m jf's best feuds. I believe since
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: he's been in a w and that maybe I'm in
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: a minority here, but I loved everything with MJF and
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Adam Cole going into All In. So if he were
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: to be part of the Casino Gauntlet, I would be like, okay, I.
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: Think versus Mestiico oh, I was thinking.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: The same thing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: I got to agree with Rowlands.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: I think the because m JF wants to be in
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: the title picture, and every time they've done with these
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: casino events, it's been for a title shot.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: I look for that to be where they're going.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: To put.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And for me, that just doesn't feel right for MJF, like, like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: it's not trust me, I'm very much looking forward to
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the Casino Gauntlet. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: saying is like NJF has been in fantastic programs going
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: into the last two all ins, and for him not
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: to be in like a proper feud, at least for
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: at least for me, that's just it's not right. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: do want to comment on Swerve and Osprey. I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: they are going to have a proper match, not against
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: each other, but in a tag team match against Matthew
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Jackson and Nicholas Jackson the Young Bucks. I think that
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: is the direction they're going in agree, and that if
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: they do that match it could steal the shell M.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: But that's but here's the thing, and Rollins, and I'm
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: gonna ask this to you specifically. Let's say we have
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Swerve and Osprey against the Young Bucks. It's it's just
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: a meaningless exhibition match with no stakes.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: What you talking about you?
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: He's right, He's absolutely right. There's no story to it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: I guess there is a little bit of story to it, but.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: There's nothing there. I would rather see them in the
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Gauntlet match than in a a tag match.
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: But the problem with that is is it's not leading anywhere.
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: It's based on what's been happening with the world title.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: You that's all been involved around the Bucks and interfering
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: with the world title and getting everything that's going from
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: that's that's no reason to have that match at all.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: In it would need to nothing.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Oh, I completely disagree with that, totally disagree.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's you know, it's just a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: difference of opinions. There's nothing wrong with your opinion or
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: mine or anybody else's. It's just that personally, I don't
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: see the point and having an ausprey and Sweer versus
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the Bucks match, I mean, because it's it would just
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: be an exhibition.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: That's what it is.
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: But yeah, I want to go back to what he
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: was saying with m JF.
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: I think per Syndicate.
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: And and the Lucha Doors themselves are having their own
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: fit feud and it's been building, so I think there's
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: something there. And people want to see a match between
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: Meschiko and m JF.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: And we just sat between miss We just saw match
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: between on a big stage. Yeah, Jenn, if they ran
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: mister Cohen and MGF at all, in to me, it's
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a cop out match.
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: I think I think is gonna be there's gonna be
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: a tag title match that MGF will be involved in.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: He'll do his thing in the match to keep make
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: sure that the Herts Syndica keeps the.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Titles and agree with that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: He'll be the last one in or one of the
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: last ones in for.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: The Gauntlet match, and he'll probably be the favorite to
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: win it, so he gets a title shot with whoever
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: wins the Knoxley match.
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: I disagree.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I disagree with you, Sidon, and here's why, because it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: looking like it's gonna be Hurt Syndicate versus Jet speed
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: at All, in which I'm very much in favor of
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: that match because I've become a big fan of Kevin
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Knight since he's debut. Then a w I would give
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: him the at least the TNT Championship. That's just my opinion.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: But it would not surprise me if they end up
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: changing the tag team titles and giving it to Kevin
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Knight and Speedball. Because here's here's where I'm why I'm
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: tying MJF back into it, because MJF does something and
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: screws up, and that's how you start the breakup.
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: Because I agree with.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: That way way too early for the breakup of them.
• 26:30
  Speaker 10: I think it's going to be.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You didn't say that that they are going to break up.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He said, this is how they start the breakup, which, look,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: you might as well start it, because frankly speaking, I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: think if you were to ask a thousand wrestling fans,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: specifically aw fans, is MJF going to be with the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Hurt Syndicate in six months? Pretty much, I think everybody
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: would say no.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Although I'm very much enjoyed the story of MJF and
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: the Hurt Syndicate, it was a little bit odd to
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: me at first, like, wait a minute, after the feud
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: with Hangman, you're gonna put him in the this story
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: with m VP and that hurts synd to get. But
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: as it's going on, I'm like, Okay, I'm actually really
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: liking this. I want to see where it's gonna go.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: But again, it just feels weird to me that we
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: got MJF versus Aspray, you know last year at all in,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and we got MJF versus Adam Cole at the first
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: all in, and this year it's just nothing.
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: I disagree, It'll be something, he'll have something. You just
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: got to.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: Hold you.
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: Fag matches is gonna be a multi team thing, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: that's how you get it off of them because Christian
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: Cage has said that he wants Nick, he wants a
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: shot at it, and there are others, So I you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: why not making a multiplier team match instead of just
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: one on one team versus another team.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: It just yeah, it leird to me that m JF
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: doesn't have a proper signals feud, Like it doesn't sit
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: right with me.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: Okay, aw, this year has not done a real good
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: job of setting up matches for their upcoming pay per
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: views more than a couple of days beforehand. And like
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: I said, there's seventeen days or so until then until
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: the pay per view, so you could have twenty five
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: more matches by then. But you know, this is this
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: is what TK'SMO has been.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah we look, okay, okay, look, but one of the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: matches in the men's division that has kind of gotten
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: some attention but it hasn't been set up yet is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Adam Cole versus Kyle Fletcher for all In. And I'm
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you, I'm still gonna go back
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: to what I said earlier before. Yeah, if they do
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Adam Pahle versus Kyle Fletcher. Yes, it makes fun, makes
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: sense for the A W, T and T Chachampionship, But
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think all In is the place to do it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I really don't. I think all you I think you
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: wait all out?
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: Why do you say that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I just think that, Look, you've got Hangman at him
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Page against John Moxley. You've got keny Omega versus Kazuchka Okada.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Does is anybody gonna give a shit about Adam Cole
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and Kyle Fletcher? I really? I mean, I know that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be some people that do, but I think
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be a forgotten match. It's gonna be
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: one of those matches like can we get this over
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: so we can get onto the real matches kind of thing.
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: Well, you have to build it harder. Think it's a
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: good way to do it myself.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, look, we mentioned the Mystico and MGF.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: The only way that they could do something like that
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: and run that back as if they put Mystico's match
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: mask against MGS hair or something like that, something that's,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, something silly and extreme that would get people
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: riled up, you know, because okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: For that diamond that diamond ring.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I addressed before.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: There you go mask versus ring.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's well, I don't know, I don't know.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Dynamite Diamond ring is only defended once a year.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The only other match that I can think of again,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna I'm gonna switch over to the
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: women's division thunder Rosa and Athena. Are they gonna do
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that at Supercard of Honor on Friday where they gonna
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: wait till Saturday until all In? I mean, come on,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got to have it to me, You've
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: got to have Athena at all In. Yes, they can
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: put her in the Casino Countland match. But again, though,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: you know, people want to see Tony Storm and they
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: want to see Mercedes Monet. Is a thunder Rosa against
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Athena match which has largely been built on Ring of
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Honor TV. And they've done a good job of building
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it on Ring of Honor TV. But a W fans
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: that don't watch a Ring of Honor on Honor Club
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: aren't gonna care, are not you know, are not gonna
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: are not gonna care exactly, and it's gonna be one
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: of those matches, and it should not be one of
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: those matches, but it will be one of those matches,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: which I think would be similar to a Kyle Fletcher
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and Adam Cole match was can we get through this
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: or we can get to the real matches kind of thing.
• 31:38
  Speaker 12: No, I don't think they're gonna do it a ring
• 31:41
  Speaker 12: of I think they're gonna do it at the at
• 31:44
  Speaker 12: the r O H pay per view view and then
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: have her in the Garland match as again saying like
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: same my idea with Lake MJF.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: It's a chance for her to win the title shot.
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: Now I think Athena would.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: I think it needs to be in the in the
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: UH Women's Gaunt win and win it.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: I think the rumor is actually that they are going
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: to do Athena versus thunder Rosa at all In. That's
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: the why would you do that? That's the rumor I've heard,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: and I would absolutely do it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 10: That doesn't make GOODFO sence to me?
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: Is this for the title for the If you're if
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: you're having a pay per view for r o H
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: the day before all In, why would you put your
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: title shot on an A E W pay per view
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: when you have, that's your.
• 32:32
  Speaker 8: She's their star. She's there, she's there.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: That's hold on, hold on. How many times have we
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: seen the r O H Men's World Championship.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: There's that's that's not even as there's that's when you
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: look at and I agree with Sutton here, the Ring
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of Honor Women's Championship is fifty time time is more
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: important than the women Ring of Honor Men's Championship.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Because yet the men's championship has been defended on a
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: W pay per views because.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: It's because it's not as important. It's not as important.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: But what what Sudden is saying is that look and Sudden,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: let me let me just ask you, is athenis Ring
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: of Honor? Were Women's World Championship the most important championship
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: in Ring of Honor?
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: It might be the most important championship in ae w's
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: kingdom at the moment.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Because okay, well it was yes. It was a yes
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: or no question. I don't want to get into a
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: long dissertation about it. It is, but it is so
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the question is it is the most important championship in
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Ring of Honor? I agree with you. If you've got
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: a Rig of Honor pay per view the day before
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: all in, Okay, you have to have their I mean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: if you don't have that match on Super Car to Honor,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: what's the point of even having this pay per view exactly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: And that's the other thing, there's nothing there.
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: None of the men's titles that were defended on ae
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: W pay per views had an orders pay per view
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: the same the day before or the same weekend.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: That's the difference, right, So if if you do this,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: go ahead something Okay, I'm sorry.
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: I just don't think it makes a business sense for
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: them to put it on all in when you have
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: to have it there.
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: And I'll tell you what.
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: The women's belt is the only championship I really know
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: who of Ring of Honor? Who I know who has
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: that belt because I can't really on top of my
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: head name you who the men's Ring of Honor champion is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: Or and.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Suns to Texas or the tag Team Champions and then
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the Dustin Rhodes and the Von Erics at the Trio's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Champions Red Velvet. Red Velvet is the TV champion.
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then Nick Nick Wayne is a champion in ROH two.
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: I think a lot of people have said they would
• 35:10
  Speaker 11: rather Ring of Honor championships be defended on Ring of
• 35:14
  Speaker 11: Honor shows and not brought out right yep.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Athena, and I'm going to say something's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: kind of off the wall here, Okay, bear with me.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: We have, of course, we've talked about it already, the
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: women's and men's Casino Gauntlet matches, with the winners of
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: these Casino Gauntlet matches getting world future world title shots.
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: All right, bear with me here, because this is going
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to get I just give me a chance to explain
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: my thought and then I'll go to you guys. On
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the February fourth edition of aw phantubs Ignician Net revealed
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that women's tag team titles are being made. Okay, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: if you pay attention to different new sources, dirt cheets,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to call them, a lot of places
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: are now now talking about the women's tag team titles.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. Well, we already knew this thanks
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: to Net. I mean, we've known this since the beginning
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of February. You know that they were coming, we just
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: didn't know when. All right, What if instead of having
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a women's casino Gauntlet where they introduced people one at
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a time, they introduced them two at a time. Hej
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Julia Hart, Sky, Blue Athena and Billy Starks. And this
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Women's Gauntlet isn't a singles competition. It's a tag team
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: competition for the a W Women's Tag Team title belts.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: The one thing I think is bad about that is
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: maybe it's too soon. You know, there's not enough time
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to build. I would put, yeah, yeah, that's what That's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. There's no no why if you do
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: it Women's Casino Gauntlet at all in singles. You can
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: still do a tag team want it all out? I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: think it'll still be okay, mm hmm, you know, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I was just throwing that out there. But yes, we
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: do have the Women's Casino Gauntlet, which I'm really looking
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: forward to. And what else I'm looking forward to when
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: it comes to the women's and the men's there are
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of surprises or guests that we could see
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: in these Casino Gauntlet matches. A lot of them when
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: you look at star Cast. When you look at star Cast, yeah, uh,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: which is in Arlington that weekend, there are a lot
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: of especially on the women's side. You've got Shazi Blackheart
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be there, she's currently unsigned. You've got Elena
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Black or core Fka Uh, core Jade, that's there, Priscilla,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Priscilla Kelly, Uh, Gigi Dolan, Uh, I'm sorry.
• 38:28
  Speaker 10: Bull and Nakano is their name, isn't it?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about Bull, to be honest with you,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: but that would be a really good one. And then look,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: you know that's just people that are there at at
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: at star Cast. But then you also got to think
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: of New Japan wrestlers and startum wrestlers. You know, Gabe
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Kid can very well be in a casino gutlet you know.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, Nato could show up, Tana
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Hashi could show up for all we know, switching from
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: you know, then you've got people that are like you
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: know three uh, Starlight Kid from Stardom. These are very
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: viable a z m Azumi, there's some viable people. Is
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: there anybody that is not a w do? You got
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: to look at returns? Keith Lee's from Wichita Falls, Texas,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: which is a strong throwaway from Rlington. If he's going
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to return, can you imagine him returning in his home
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: pretty much his hometown at all end that would be fantastic.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: So happy.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: That would make me.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm.
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: Definitely or Jack Perry.
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's endless options, really it is.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's some you know, you're not gonna see,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Like I don't believe you'd be able to see somebody
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: like Orange Cassidy because he's he's injured. Uh So there
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: are some people that you're not going to see. But
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I think, yeah, Jay White still hurt. Maybe
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the guns. Maybe they didn't release they did release a report.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: There's been conflicting of reports about Jews Robinson. One was
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: saying that he was close, he's backstage and he's close
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to being back, and then another one the next day said, yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: he was backstage, but he's actually a lot further from
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: being back than he is to being back. You know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I forget he broke his wood break this bibula, so
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's no joke. I mean that's the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: same thing that sky Blue added. Sky Blue was out
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: for a year, you know.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: So Eddie Kingston, I don't think so.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think if Eddie Caston comes out, it'd be
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: his a mouthpiece or you know, somebody to stand there
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: and hit somebody over the head with a trash can
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: lid or something like that. I don't think you'll get
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: into the ring, I think. I don't think that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: I think it would be during the John Moxley match exactly.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: And I think if if if Eddie Caston did come back,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: he would come back to help John Moxley.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: Or to go against John Moxley.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You don't know, yeah, but you know, let's put it
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: this way. I hope that the Hangman and Moxley match
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: is a clean match and it doesn't have anything you know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and uh and you know, for God's sakes, I mean honestly,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: at this point, you know, if Moxley wins his I
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: personally speaking, personally speaking, I'm not going to watch this match.
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll watch it, well, well, I'll be there, but.
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: He at Moxley wins, I'm down with the aw I
• 42:10
  Speaker 11: will not continue to watch programming with him on as champion.
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: That's the thing, is that, in all honesty, when John
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Moxley has a match, or really any of the death
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Writers have a match, if I don't turn off the
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: TV completely or change the channel completely completely, I zone
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: out because I just don't have any interested in it,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: and I'm sorry. As much as I love what they're
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: doing with the Hangman Adam Paige, and I'm more interested
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in Hangman Adam Page, I am personally more interested in
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the Hangman Adam Page dynamic with Will Osprey and Swert
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Strickland than I am with John Moxley.
• 42:47
  Speaker 13: I agree question you don't find what's going on with
• 42:53
  Speaker 13: mox Yuda and stat Land are intriguing at all.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I am absolutely you for breaking that up, because if
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: you weren't going to I was. I am absolutely loving
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: what they are doing with Chris Statlander, wheel A Yuta,
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: and John Moxley. But just in general, since they started
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: the Death Riders to now, I have loved every single
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: second of it. Moxley is one of my favorite aw
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: World champions.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: I do I just think that this particular run sucks.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Oh I could I fully disagree with you. I think
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: this has been a fantastic run for Moxley as world champion.
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: This is for me, in my opinion.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I loved his program with Orange Cassidy, I really I
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: loved everything leading up to World's End. The stuff with
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Adam Copeland did run a little dry. I have to admit,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: but then you got every thing with Hangman now and
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: you got everything with Swerve at Dynasty. I'm loving this stuff.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: It's fantastic. But especially Statlander, if she were to join
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: the death Writers, look out, I think that would be fantastic.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: And I'm totally on the opposite if. My thing is
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: that if Christandler joins the Death Writers, that means that
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Death Writers will to exist and it would suck.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it would be a hundred times better. What
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: are you talking about?
• 44:42
  Speaker 10: The Hanging winners.
• 44:43
  Speaker 11: I really feel that that Death Writers needs to be
• 44:47
  Speaker 11: disbanded because at this.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Point, absolutely absolutely, I look at this matches Hangman again
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: page against the Death Writers, for if hank Man loses
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: this match, then this whole pointless, pointless, and if the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: death Writers loses with if the death Writers win this match,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I'd be like, what what the hell
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: are we doing here? This is are we going to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: continue to suck?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they could be having stat Lander join to pivot
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: it off into Women's Tag with her, and.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: That that would be a waste of That would be
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: a waste of Chris Stafflanders readership. Fear is not a
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: good wrestler. I'm sorry. She's a good character, but she
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: is probably the Eddie Kingston of women's wrestling's character can't
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: wrestle herself out of a box.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: Is the whole with her joining the Death Writers? Is
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: it just another way for them to add to her
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: and Willow?
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: Because I mean that seems to.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: Be what they want to do with stant Landers.
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: They want to keep her fighting with Willow, which I
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: think is just as big a waste of time.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Well, here's my opinion on that something. I'm glad you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: brought that up. My opinion is because as we've been
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: going through this, Chris Stantler has been saying, why are
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: we talking about Willow again? Why are we talking about
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Willow again? I think if this is going to work,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Chris Statlander goes into all in causes causes the Death
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Writers to implode, grabs that briefcase, opens it up and
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: hits John Moxley or Marina Spear with that belt or whatever.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: And it has revealed that Willow and stat Lander are
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: best friends and they are a team, and this has
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: all been a ruse on both of their parts, you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: to infiltrate the Death Writers in the wrong way, because,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: let's face it, Willow Nightingale is not going to be
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: able to go against Claudio Casignoli, pack John Moxley, and
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Wheeler Dah on our own. They needed an inside person,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: and that inside person is Chris Statlander. What better way
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: to build up Chris Statlander is the ultimate savior and
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: hero of a w that I have her do a
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: big part of destroying the be hated and completely worthless
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and unbearably boring death.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Writers, you're gonna do that to Judah. I mean, he's
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: already dah.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: Don't make it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Don't break his heart.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: He's buried, he's barely dah. He's more of an outpaka
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: right now than he is Wheeler Dah.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: I'm by the waymation. By the way, I'm loving that
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: wheel You guys basically become Moxley's whipping boy. It's it's
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: honestly hilarious, but.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: We're you bet. He's spent the whipping boy for three
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: years now.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah boy, thinking they can turn him but it never works.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: No, it doesn't. It's hilarious, but it does feel like
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: they might do Willow versus Statlander at all, in which
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: I would enjoy that match. I would want Statlander to
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: win because I'm a huge Chris Statlander fan. I think
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: she should have been. I think she should have been.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Putting a match, a totally senseless match between Statlander and
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna put them in, if you're gonna put
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: them in a match and put them in the Casino
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Gauntlet match, you don't put them in.
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: Who's a bigger Stattlander fan or Rowlands?
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: I would say me, dude, you're you're completely crazy on
• 49:05
  Speaker 8: that role.
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: There's no way.
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: The whole point is we saw christat Lander and Willow
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: Nightingale wrestle all last year.
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: That's all they did.
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't need them to wrestle again.
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: That should have been put away and over with done.
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: They don't need to put her in.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I like that idea that Kelson came up with because
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: I think it's a good idea and a good way
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: to break up the Death Riders.
• 49:27
  Speaker 8: And pretty much put a cough, put a nail in
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: their coffin.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I bet to bring up another thing for you, Son
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that you may may like remember over. We've had two
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: times now where Wheeler Utah has kind of talked to
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Chris Statlander. I think I think wheel where Yuta is turning.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Possibly the reason I say that is because they've been
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: He's been talking very calmly and very uh you know, scripted,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: like to stat Lander, But readers appear always been standing
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: right there. You never know what they're talking. They used
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: to be Statlander and you used to be tight. They
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: used to be best friends. I think that I think that, aw,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: you are using stat Lander and you to get in there.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I really do feel why I am praying to you,
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: know the gods above, I'm talking to you superman, that
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: that July twelfth is the absolute end of the death.
• 50:33
  Speaker 10: Yes, I'm hoping beyond.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping beyond, hope that we never hear the term
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: death writers ever again. Yes, it's sucks. I'm sorry it does.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, just people to like that like them.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you know, but I know that
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: you know. And I don't mean no disrespect. I'm sorry.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Do you want me to break out the dissertation? Do
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: you want to explain all of this to you? Because
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: I can explain the entire story and why it's brilliant
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: to you if you like, Well, look.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I've been I've been for the most part, Like I
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: can't really tell you that I've been watching this story
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: for since all Out of last year was when this
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: story started with the Death Writers. That's when the plastic
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: bag went over Brian Danielson's head and the Death Writers started. Uh,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the problem is after that first remember we were talking
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: about it, like after the first couple of weeks after
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: all Out last year, there were like, you know, felonies
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: going on basically every week on Dynamite and Collision. You know,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: it was kind of becoming like, what what are they
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: going to do next? It was fun, and then it
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: got down to, Oh, we're just gonna bust Isaiah Cassidy's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: hand with a balk being hammer and it's not gonna
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: affect him at all. After a week, you know, he's
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: gonna have shattered Bringer's boating back. You know all that,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: it's been stupid, it's been repetitive. I understand that there's
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a story behind it, and I don't need to have
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: it explained to me, because you know, I don't need to.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: You explaining the Death Writer's story to me and how
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: in depth and brilliant it is is about the same
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: as me explaining how brilliant and in depth the movie
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Show Girls is to you, and it doesn't hide the
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: fact that it's stupid, and that's just my opinion.
• 52:40
  Speaker 10: I'm just done with it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: Look, i've been in this position before. I was I
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: don't know if I've ever mentioned this, but I felt
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: like I was going completely insane because I thought the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: whole original uncle Howdy thing that everybody was getting really
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: over because nobody got it, And like, I get it,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Why doesn't anybody else get it?
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: It's not it's not that we don't get it, or
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: that I don't get it. I can't speak for anybody else.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: By myself, I get it. I just think it's incredibly
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: boring and stupid and I don't want to see it anymore.
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: It's had peaks and valleys, and lately at the end
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: it kind of got a little better with the with
• 53:24
  Speaker 11: the Adam Copeland and stuff like that, But that middle
• 53:26
  Speaker 11: part where everybody was just running in and doing their
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: thing and constantly interfering, it's just like, Okay, we get it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: You're a gang. You like to do it doing the.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Same thing every single week, week out, and went week
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: in and week out. The only difference between the Death
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Writers and the nWo is that new people didn't join
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the Death Writers every single week in packs of three. Yeah,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: you know, you know I will give them that is
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: that they kept it. They kept the Death Writers as
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: the Death Writers. They didn't just keep adding to it
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: like crazy. But it doesn't. I'm sorry, it's just it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: It started out where I thought that it could be
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: something good, and then it quickly died out. By early
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: October of twenty twenty four, it died out and it's
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: been on life support now. They have been giving it,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: giving a few shots from the defibrillator in the last
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: several weeks, but it's still not going to revive it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: Have you can that's gonna happen when Hangman wins and stuff?
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: Is it going to be huge or it gonna be
• 54:34
  Speaker 11: a sigh of relief?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: What will it be?
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: See again?
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: I agree with you, Jes there's nothing wrong with the
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: Death Writers storyline. It's just a storyline that people either
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: you love it or you don't, and that's what.
• 54:46
  Speaker 8: It's supposed to be.
• 54:47
  Speaker 7: It's not supposed to be earth changing, it's not supposed
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: to be make you you know, it's not something to
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: make you think you either like this storyline.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: Or you don't.
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: When it's over, if Adam.
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: If Adam Page wins the title, it'll be the biggest
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: popping the night, just because everybody backs him.
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: Period.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: That's the only reason. Yeah, just because of that.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Not only would it be the biggest Poppa and I
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: it would be the biggest discussion topic in the internet
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: wrestling community. Thank God, to be like the you know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Ding Dong, the Witch is Dead.
• 55:23
  Speaker 5: The Jedi where the exactly?
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, everybody's dancing? You got jarge?
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Are we?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I get the people like the Death
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Writers storyline. I do. I get it, but I have
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: a hard time believing that people like the point where
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it's their favorite thing that's ever happened in wrestling. But
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I will say this for the people that don't like it,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: when it finally ends, it probably will be one of
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: the more favorite things. Hey where were you when the
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Death Writers died? I will remember that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: I think a year from now people will look back
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: into go I get it now, I understand it now.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: That's I don't get it.
• 56:09
  Speaker 10: They don't like it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I get it, I absolutely get it. I just think
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: it's stupid.
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: That's why don't It's stupid, mom and drawn out and pointless.
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: That's why. Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: For me, it gave you so many different people that
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: actually had a shot at the title that we.
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: Haven't had before.
• 56:36
  Speaker 8: Because that's what it did. That was what made it different.
• 56:43
  Speaker 11: Who has a storyline really actually put over no nobody,
• 56:47
  Speaker 11: nobody yet nobody.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: You know what it reminds me of it It reminds me
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: of the first International UH title reign with Orange Cassie.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: You wrestled every single week, beat people the same way
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: every single week, Cothered and Lance Archer where he got
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: count out standing on the ring apron, which was the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: dumbest thing in the history of all EAT wrestling. I
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: still get pissed off when I think about that. It
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: was repetitive and boring.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: You know, I will speak for Orange Cassidy of course,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: because of course I will. No, I loved it because
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: the thing is you could see him little by little,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: week after a week getting more and more worn down,
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: and the story was how long can he keep this up?
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: Well?
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: You know, well, look I've got to go to net
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: here because I know that every single week that Orange Cassidy,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: except for the Lance Archer thing, won every single match
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: by using nets absolute favorite move in progress up. Yes,
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: I mean it was like the way I described I've
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: described the Death Writers this way in the past, and
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: it's the same way that I've described the first run
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: with Orange Cassidy in the International title or was that
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the Atlantic title? I think when he had it that
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: first run, but I described it as this was like
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: watching reruns of Friends, and ten minutes into the episode,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: he's like, Oh, I've seen this one before. Now it ends.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: You knew I it ended. Every time with Orange Cassidy.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: He goes to a match, he gets the absolute crap
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: beat out of him for ten minutes, and then he
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: wins it with a fruit rolling. Done the same thing
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: every single week. And if you enjoyed that, I'm sorry,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: but I sure as hell didn't. I when when we
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: were doing this podcast, we were was a different team.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I think Rawlins you were on the team back then.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: But we started we were super fan ants of Orange Cassidy.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: We thought Orange Cassidy was the greatest. By the end
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: of that run, we were like, please Lord, get this
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: guy off of our TV. Every week. What a waste
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: of time. It was a waste of time. Yeah, I
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: can't understand how people thought that was entertaining. Seemed the
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: same match every week.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if he lasted long enough that I got to
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: see the whole thing live, Like I got to see
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: him come out, They get to hear like the Jay
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: the whole Drews music. I got to see him take
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: the title out of the jam Sport. It was amazing
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: by the end.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Of that run. Honestly, again, it's the same way it
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: is with death writers. It's the same way it is
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: with any Eddie Kingston match. To be honest with you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 14: When he comes when he comes out, I can honestly
• 59:51
  Speaker 14: say probably the last fifteen to twenty Orange Cassidy title
• 59:56
  Speaker 14: defenses on that first run, I didn't see a second
• 59:59
  Speaker 14: of it because I turned the channel.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 13: Yeah, that's wort and loss then, you know, But.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: I just did. I could just I could have watched
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: the first match had gotten the same thing that I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: would have gotten from the fortieth match. Yeah or whatever, whatever,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: you did the same thing. Like with Jake Cargill. Jake
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Cargill's was just it was the same thing over and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: over and over again. It was weak, it was.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 10: Wrestled. That's the difference between that.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that is absolutely true. This has But I
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: will say this again with I mentioned Jake Cargill. I've
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: mentioned Eddie Kingston, I've mentioned Jake John Moxley, and I
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: mentioned Orange Cassidy. Jake Cargill was an average wrestler, better
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: than Eddie Kingston in the ring, but just average. Dom
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Moxley can wrestle, and so can Orange Cassidy. It's not
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: their fault. It was the booking that made j car
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Goo horrible. It was the booking to me, that made
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Orange Cassidy horrible. And it was the booking that made
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: this run. But the dead writers and John Moxley horrible.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It's unwatchable. And for me, I you know, I love
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston, but he hit Eddie Kingston in the ring
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: is just unwatchable to me. That's that's not wrestling. That's
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: that's not even comedy. It's it's uncomfortable, is what it is.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: And you know, Kelson, what is your opinion on mcfoley.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Love mcfoley because mcfoley was nothing more than mcfoley. Mcfauley
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: was actually a very very good wrestler and mcfoley put
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: people over.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, well you guys ready to hit POPA absolutely?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Are you dying to say something? I'm gay?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: Oh, I'm just ready to change subjects.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Sorry, does anybody have an does anybody
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: have a popa? They want to anything about pro wrestling?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Movies, music, TV, whatever you want to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 10: And no one else that wants to go I will, but.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, go ahead, you go ahead.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 11: I just want to say, why was it a good
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 11: idea to give Cody Cody Rhoads his own interview show.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: I've been watching a few of those on my reels,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 11: and there is something viscerally wrong. I don't like Cody
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 11: Roads on a mylecular level. I don't know why, but
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 11: some of his stories are at a pocket and some
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: of his history is kind of revisionist the way he's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 11: been telling it.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: For a buck attash, What are you talking about?
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, you question the man who ended racist, so.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 11: The man who simply handedly made made Bullet Club what
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 11: it is today. Yeah no, he actually said that, you
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 11: good lord, that dude is beyond He loves a lie,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 11: and that proved it right there.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I guess I'll go next. I know they had a
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: match a few weeks ago as like a qualifier to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: get into the four way, but I'd really like to
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: see Brodie King and Josh Alexander have a match at all.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: In yes, it would be more of an exhibition match.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: I get it, and so Kelson probably wouldn't like it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: But I know Brody and Josh Alexander have a long
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: history with one another, and I'd like to see Josh
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: Brody King finally had a big push, Like every time
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: he comes out, the crowd gets behind him. So why
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: not let him and Josh Alexander just have a solid,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know, ten minute match at all in, get
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: Brodie King the win and then he can go on
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: to challenge for it.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Do it at three hundred, don't do it at all.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: In that's again, it would be a free up and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: get over so we get onto the real matches kind
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: Also, I think Powerhouse Hobbs should win the AW World
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: Championship in the next few years.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with you. I'm a huge Hobbs fan.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Anybody else have with PATPORI because
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: I've got one.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, where's so go ahead? Okay, thank you. I'm a
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: little speaking of Brody by God's hate King. Uh, he's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: singing single handedly got a e w some outside exposure
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: just by wearing a very cool T shirt at.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, yeah he did. You know, you got to
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: hand it to him. What did you think about that, Jess.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, I loved it. I love brody King. As a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: matter of course. I wish he wasn't always the guy
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: who had to eat the pin, but he's awesome human being.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But do you know brody King is just an
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: amazing Every time I've seen him, like outside of the ring,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: doing interviews or just chats with people, he just seems like,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: aw's Ruby Soho. I don't have you ever seen Ruby
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Soho just interacting with fans and stuff. She's amazing. She's amazing.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: But one thing I'll say about brody King, especially at
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: uh Grand Slam Mexico, he's the biggest damn luchador I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: ever saw. Did you see the Oh my god, that
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: was perfect?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: I mean I was so proud of him. I was
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: like a daddy. I was like, I was proud of him.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 8: I really was, Tony.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: If you're listening to our little show, please push Brodie K.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, stick him on the mask so we don't know
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: who it is. I mean, he'd come out, you know,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: we won't know who it is. Who's that big guy?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: With the tattoos. You know, that's wearing a mask. And
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: you know, two years from now, Levi a mask himself
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: and it's Brody King, who would be like mind blown
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: as the big luchador. Did anybody else find an interesting bite?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Grand Slam Mexico, where Atlantis at
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Atlanta's Junior is just getting booed like lustily.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: And yeah, the reason for that I heard was because
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Atlantis Junior, at his relatively young age and early position
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: in his career, has already unmasked a few legends and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: the smacks of nepotism, so hence he gets booed. At
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: least that's what I heard. I can't I will admit
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: that I cannot mortify that.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they are I don't know, but they love
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: themselves some etcha Sarah, I'll tell you that. Wow at
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: Sarah was adored. What's another topic here for for potpourri?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Does anybody want to talk about the Night of Champions?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, I'm holding my breath on that one.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: You know, does anybody think this is a good decision?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: What was that?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: Oh? They said something.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: My son was saying to me that they're not moving
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 7: it but uh, I would like to say you talk
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 7: about like the the amount of people that showed up
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 7: at the Mexican at the at the All in Mexico
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 7: compared to what or Yeah Glance Slam Mexico compared to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: what WWE put on the week before, not even close
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 7: to a comparison a w BLEW that show away except
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 7: for maybe one match.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 13: Wow.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up something
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: totally vain. It may sound uncomfortable, but it's really not.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I was a discussion, uh with male and female wrestling
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: fans on on a message board this past week, and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: they were asking who had the most uh physically fit
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: bodies wrestling bodies in in wrestling and both the men's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: and women's division. As you can imagine, you know, a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: lot of the men's men came from w W WEE
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: because let's face it, they're they're built differently. But what
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: I found was interesting was the total thing that you know,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: when it came to wrestling bodies, we're not talking about
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: who's pretty or who's got the you know, the bet,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: We're talking about wrestling bodies. We came down to a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: pretty interesting decision and that it was uh. We narrowed
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: it down through matter of votes to in the women's
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: to Curry Sane as far as having the most the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: best wrestling body of all the women, I mean, do
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: you agree with that? I mean, do you think that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: there's anybody in, for example, a W that could compare
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to uh, Carrie Sane.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: No, nobody, now that he's gotten himself back in shape.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Who well, he caught a bush is not a woman.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: So that unless I mean I vibe women women, women women.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I thought, okay, yeah, I'm talking about women. I'm talking
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: you know, I can't really think of anybody with a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: better wrestler's physique than Carrie Sye. It was interesting because
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: we got down to who has you know, we were
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: looking like, who has the best thighs? Carrie Saye? Who
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: has the best shoulders? Carrie Sane? Who has the best arms?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Carry Sayane? You know got down to this isn't so funny,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: this is up stupid. Who has the best abs? Julia
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: hart I was like, no, when you look at a W,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: the best abs on a woman in a W belongs
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: to the ring announcer R Kadie Era. Go looker. I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: have never seen abs like that on a human being
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: in my wife's got amazing abs. I would argue as
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: far as now, as far as men go, Jess, you said,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: you know Kodo Bushie, he looks phenomenal. But a w
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: A A W I still I gotta go, Buddy Matthews,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: the guys just yeah, yeah, Eddie Kingston has you know,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: maybe good pinky toes. I don't know.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: Hey, look think of it this way. Some people have
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: a six pack. Eddie Kingston has a keg.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: He has a keg for sure. I love Eddie Kingston again,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: and I really mean this. I love Eddie Kingston. I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: look forward to seeing him on TV. Unless he's wrestling.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's just me. I'm sorry.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: Well, you gotta remember, though we haven't seen it in
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: a long time. He's supposed to be getting back in shape.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: So well, I've seen Eddie Kingston working. We've seen Eddie Kingston.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: If you go, we could see Eddie Kingston working out.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston is.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: Not you know, Toda was a little chubby when we
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: saw him last and now he's back and he looks amazing.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I was floored when I saw Kodo Boushie,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: honest to God, But I've been.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Spending the week saying I told him just so because
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: no one believed me about.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: A booshe.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: I would I see, I knew he was going to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: show up eventually, and if he turns heel it will
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: literally break my heart.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I will be fiteful, did I won't give it out
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: of band. Fightful did issue a report on Coodo Bouche
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: earlier today, saying that it is believed that Coodo Boushi
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: is in the best physical shape that he's been in
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: in years. So, I mean that's something. I mean, he
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: he didn't come back too soon. He got himself up there,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: you know, but yeah, gosh, I mean.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: We will also as an honorable mention, just as to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: give somebody from over in the over in the ww
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: roster there flowers, Oh my god, Finn doll Or, how
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: does he do it? You could skate on those abs
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: even he gets older and his abs are still perfect.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Well you you know, as a man, I would admit
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: that I've looked at male wrestlers and said, man, if
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: I had to have a body, that's the body that
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I would want. And I've said it before on this podcast.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Of all the wrestlers that I've seen now not the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: biggest guy in the world, you know, but he's well
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: put together. If I had to say, I want that
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: body to be mine, you know, you know, take beach
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: pictures in I go Trent Purretta. I think Trent Parretta
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: for me has probably the best body in aw Honestly.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: Guya is actually facing Coda Bougie on Dynamite this way.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you know so. I mean,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: I'm a big Trent fan. And it's interesting because Coda
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Bougie has not wrestled like in the last kind of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: singles match in the last couple of years, you know,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: but neither has Trent Reddy. He's had some uh trios
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: and multi man matches, tag matches, he's not. This will
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: be both of theirs single matches. And they pointed out
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: that they have never faced each other in a singles
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: match before, but trump Moretta and Koda Bushi have been
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: on opposite sides of tag team matches in New Japan
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: a few times, so they are familiar with each other.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: So they should have some good chemistry and it should
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: be a really good match, I hope, so because I'm
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: pulling for both of them to do well. Plus, if
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Trent does well, that means we get to see symore.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Two.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know about that since Trent is a heel. Now, well,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: You gotta support your boy.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, my mommy would love my mommy love
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: me no matter what. It's called unconditional love, you know,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: so whatever it is. Hey, look, we're gonna call it
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: a night. Thanks for listening to Ignition. We will be
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: back tomorrow night after Dynamite for all lea talk where
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: we'll be doing our review of Dynamite tomorrow night. So
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: if you're around, come join us on our Wrestling Hub discord.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: The link will be in the description right after Dynamite
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: to give your thoughts on aw Dynamite. So forty aw
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: FANA Podcast team, thanks for listening. This is Kelson. Good
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: night everybody,