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Katie Woolf spoke with Lord Mayor Kon Vatskalis · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Three sixty with Katie Wolf on Mixed one oh four
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  Speaker 1: point nine thanks to Joyce Main Darwin joining us live
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  Speaker 1: in the studio is the Lord Mayor of Darwin convat Scarlets.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Katy, and what a wonderful day.
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  Speaker 2: I think the drive is about to come. And I
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  Speaker 2: was just on the radio the guys down south who
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  Speaker 2: left Darwin to live down south, winding about how coal
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, sweet revenge, Yeah exactly, don't worry about them, just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's stay here.
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  Speaker 3: It's lovely at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Although it was pretty hot yesterday IVO, but we don't
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  Speaker 1: need to talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Will just cons it's going to get cooler.
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  Speaker 4: It's snoring in Victoria exactly.
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  Speaker 2: One's point three degrees in in Canberra.
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  Speaker 4: You can have it.
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  Speaker 3: You can have it. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: And now Corn, I've got quite a bit. I want
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  Speaker 1: to get through with you today. I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you for ten minutes, yep. I want to ask you
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  Speaker 1: firstly about these Karama laneway closures. What was that decision made?
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  Speaker 1: Was a bit about this anti social behavior?
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  Speaker 2: Residents asked US counsel to consider closing them because of
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  Speaker 2: un social behavior, and put it bluntly, They were designed
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  Speaker 2: in the sixties and seventies where people do not have cars.
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  Speaker 4: They want to go from point one to point B
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  Speaker 4: to buy food, to buy things.
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  Speaker 2: Now they become an escape route for people that commit crimes,
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  Speaker 2: and I've heard that one from residents.
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  Speaker 4: I heard that from the police.
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  Speaker 2: So if there is a problem, if they become a
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  Speaker 2: focus over the social behavior and the residents come to us,
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  Speaker 2: we investigate, We talk to the residents, we consult, and
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  Speaker 2: if we find out that the complaint is justified, we
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  Speaker 2: close them down and actually convenient apologize for that for
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  Speaker 2: people that they use them. But at the same time
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  Speaker 2: you have to think what the people next to them
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  Speaker 2: have to put up with, with screaming youth, with people
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  Speaker 2: running around, jumping fences and everything.
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  Speaker 1: How many line wise are there and when you look
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  Speaker 1: at closing others, to.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you the truth, air Katy, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot. I remember as a member for
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  Speaker 2: night for a casurina, I closed quite a bit. But
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  Speaker 2: while we did, we close them seven o'clock at night
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  Speaker 2: and we open six o'clock in the morning. It is costly,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same time we can convenience people that
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  Speaker 2: don't have a bus a car and they want to
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  Speaker 2: catch the bus, but at the same time closing them at.
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  Speaker 4: Night or put lights. It resolved a lot of the.
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  Speaker 1: Issues now con We caught up with Nia Kids, the
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  Speaker 1: local member for Karama last week. She said that they
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  Speaker 1: have been inundated with hundreds upon hundreds of visitors to
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  Speaker 1: that electorates. We know that it's not the only electorate
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  Speaker 1: and we also caught up with Robert Cooper from Larikie
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  Speaker 1: Nation about this.
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  Speaker 3: But what impact is.
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  Speaker 1: Are these visitors having on council services and issues for
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  Speaker 1: council i e. Having to clean up those parks and
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  Speaker 1: things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, give you an example, we had photographs from Karama
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  Speaker 2: Park that they're actually full of lita. This park is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be used by children in the area by
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  Speaker 2: the at the moment, they're used by people who come
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  Speaker 2: from communities and camp here.
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  Speaker 4: And as you saw in the newspaper.
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  Speaker 2: Last week, there were a lot of people here cast
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  Speaker 2: up either by their government allowances or because they've got
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  Speaker 2: the royalties and they decided they're going to die when
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  Speaker 2: a party time and that has to do it. Because
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  Speaker 2: communities they're not a place to spend your money. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, there's nothing there to buy or they're very
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is a lot of people decided they
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  Speaker 2: will come to down to visit friends and then they
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  Speaker 2: get stuck here because here you can buy alcohol. Some
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  Speaker 2: communities are not allowed to others you can. And we
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  Speaker 2: argue many times with the federal government to allow controlled
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  Speaker 2: clubs and communities.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we've got a very step fight approach by the
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  Speaker 2: federal government refusing to be considerable.
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  Speaker 1: The Chief Minister and also the Minister for Health have
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  Speaker 1: said to us that this is something that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be getting relooked at with the federal government later
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  Speaker 1: in the year.
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  Speaker 3: So let's wait and see what happens there.
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  Speaker 1: But just on the council services are you finding at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, I mean, are you having to put on
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  Speaker 1: additional cleaning services or are you having to put on
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  Speaker 1: additional services in some of those suburb services?
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  Speaker 4: Seven dare's a week? Okay, we clean up the place.
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  Speaker 2: Seven there's a week, And I still get to complaints
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  Speaker 2: through messenger even on Sunday. That the places where they
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  Speaker 2: are and they're always the same spots, amazing close to
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  Speaker 2: places where they offer free breakfast and lunch, which is
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  Speaker 2: a great idea to feeding the people. At the same
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  Speaker 2: time should be consideration about the problems you're creating in
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  Speaker 2: your neighborhood. We've got problems are studr Park, We've got
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  Speaker 2: problems in this point.
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  Speaker 4: We've got problems in Nightcliff because you're in.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the reserve is responsibility of the government, so
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  Speaker 2: I can't tell you that. But we've got problems in
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  Speaker 2: little parks, let's say in Karama, especially near liquor stores,
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  Speaker 2: where there's liquor outlets, there will be problems.
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  Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about that con because
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  Speaker 1: we caught up with the Chief Minister, Michael Gunna yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and spoke about drinking in public. Take a listen. Is
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  Speaker 1: it legal to drink in public? It depends where so.
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  Speaker 1: For example, I suppose just on that example in Karama,
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  Speaker 1: where there are people drinking at the playground there at
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  Speaker 1: the kids playground in the early hours of the morning, is.
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  Speaker 5: That legal you can't drink within two kilometers of a
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  Speaker 5: liquor license. I presume that spot will be outside of
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  Speaker 5: that and please have the power then to do tip
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  Speaker 5: out a number of things depending on where you are drinking.
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  Speaker 3: But as it.
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  Speaker 1: Currently sits in in so if there is somebody, if
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  Speaker 1: there's people drinking in public and they're further away than
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  Speaker 1: two kilometers from a license premises, then that's actually okay.
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  Speaker 5: There's a large number of areas in down where that
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  Speaker 5: the two k law as it covers most of most
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  Speaker 5: of most of downars, but the same without knowing the
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  Speaker 5: exact part, there's a there's a small chance, but it's
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  Speaker 5: highly unlikely that's a legal spot.
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  Speaker 3: Corn, is that you're understanding.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a bit surprised and confused here because we're
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  Speaker 2: clearly were taught by the police that the two kilom
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  Speaker 2: the law was revoked under the when they actually had
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  Speaker 2: their look at the licensing provisions of the legislation. Now
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  Speaker 2: the Chief Minister say that two kilum the law applies,
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  Speaker 2: So I think, if it's true, you better tell his police.
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  Speaker 2: If it's not true, somebody's advice the Chief Minister, actually
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  Speaker 2: that thing is revoked. But I'll go back and hear
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  Speaker 2: a look at it, because if this is the case,
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  Speaker 2: I'll be asked for the policeman force it. But if
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  Speaker 2: it's not the case, then there's nothing the police can
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  Speaker 2: do about.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my understanding, is I thought that the
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  Speaker 1: police were really in a situation here where if people.
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  Speaker 2: Would they don't remember very well and our call very
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  Speaker 2: well that the police told us they were not enforcing
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  Speaker 2: because it is not a legislation anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Con How big an issue though, is this having?
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  Speaker 1: Is that public drinking having not only on our suburbs
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  Speaker 1: but around the city and other locations as well. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about this on numerous occasions, Kate.
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  Speaker 2: There is a problem. I mean, let's be frunk about it.
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  Speaker 2: There is a problem. People are coming here and they
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  Speaker 2: get stuck into alcohol. I don't know how they get it,
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  Speaker 2: because yesterday when I went to look at outlet, there
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  Speaker 2: was a sign up there to say if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have you're not the result of DOWBT. When you have
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  Speaker 2: to tell us a valid address where you're going to
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  Speaker 2: consume alcohol. East Point is not a valid address. The
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  Speaker 2: Karma Park is not a valid address. How did these
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  Speaker 2: people get alcohol? Where they get the alcohol? The second
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  Speaker 2: supply is alive and well, now I understand the BDR
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  Speaker 2: and the effect it's got.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a good intention.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've got a system there that can check
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  Speaker 2: your card, why this system can't check if somebody turns
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  Speaker 2: up every week or every day and buy twelve bucks
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  Speaker 2: of wine. Obviously there's a problem, and that will allow
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  Speaker 2: the police investigative there's a second supply this. Somebody will
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  Speaker 2: come and says, oh about the privacy reason. I don't
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  Speaker 2: give a hood about the privacy reason. We're talking about
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  Speaker 2: people committing crimes and serial crimes, not only disturbing the community,
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  Speaker 2: but praying on people they've got an alcohol addiction. Privacy
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  Speaker 2: should not be a problem. There should be revoked, should
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  Speaker 2: be looked into it and remove this, you know, legislative
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  Speaker 2: obstacles that we always had behind it's a privacy issue. No,
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  Speaker 2: this is a second supply of alcohol. You can probably
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  Speaker 2: twig your system to identify the people actually they commit
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  Speaker 2: a crime.
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  Speaker 3: Con let's move along. I do want to ask you.
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  Speaker 1: I know that the dow And City Council have got
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  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars going into social initiatives.
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  Speaker 3: Is that correct? And what?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely? We look?
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  Speaker 2: Everybody complains about young kids, and yes there is a problem.
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  Speaker 3: Most the kids are behaving them.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody's complaint about the problem with kids.
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  Speaker 2: So we decided, well, okay, instead of complaining, what are
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  Speaker 2: we going to do about it?
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  Speaker 4: We have to do something about it. So what we
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  Speaker 4: decide to do.
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  Speaker 2: We decide to put one hundred thousand dollars to different
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  Speaker 2: programs that will attract young kids, other through cultural events,
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  Speaker 2: through artistic projects, to actually do something about it. If
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  Speaker 2: we can engage these young people and take them away
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  Speaker 2: from the streets, that's a big cluss. And I'm telling
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  Speaker 2: you now, this is the first announcement I want to
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  Speaker 2: make part of my election manifesto, will be using our
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  Speaker 2: libraries to address the issue of the young.
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  Speaker 4: Children were in state programs.
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  Speaker 2: We want to get the young kids in our libraries
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  Speaker 2: or facilities where we actually help them to learn to read,
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  Speaker 2: to write, helping with them homework, provide activities, teach them
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  Speaker 2: how to use a tablet, tease how to use a computer,
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  Speaker 2: to get them out of the streets, to get them
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  Speaker 2: into some way that actually have a structured program in
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  Speaker 2: their lives. Most of these kids, they're roaming the streets
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  Speaker 2: because they don't have a family to go to these
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  Speaker 2: structural families, and some kids they feel actually safer outside
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  Speaker 2: the house than inside the house. So I'm telling you now,
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  Speaker 2: if I'll be relected again, We'll make sure that I
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  Speaker 2: put the program in place to engage these young people
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  Speaker 2: through our existing problem programs that they do fantastic jobs,
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  Speaker 2: through our libraries and open get the kids out of
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  Speaker 2: the streets, get them somewhere they can feel safe, and
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  Speaker 2: teach them something to do, teach them to do something
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  Speaker 2: with their lives.
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  Speaker 3: Can I just ask you very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: I know that it is Youth Week at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: and the Council's got quite a few activities on as well,
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  Speaker 1: don't you absolutely?
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  Speaker 2: When's the fourteenth of April, which is actually tomorrow from
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  Speaker 2: five thirty seven o'clock free skating ice skating party with
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  Speaker 2: music and games again from six to eight pm.
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  Speaker 4: Skate Night at Gingly Water Garden Skate.
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  Speaker 2: Park for twelve years plus on Saturday at seventeenth of
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  Speaker 2: April from one pm to five pm. Gek Tacular Meetup, cosplay, games,
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  Speaker 2: digital art and more at Casuarina Library on Sunday from
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  Speaker 2: six to seven pm City Live Platform, Light Box Exhibition.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got a lot of things until next week.
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  Speaker 2: And the next week we have of course finishing It's
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  Speaker 2: cut surfing at the Civic Park from ten thirty am
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  Speaker 2: to three pm.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the years on stuff. The kids get together
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  Speaker 4: let's do something about kids. I'm not going to WinCE
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  Speaker 4: about it, all right.
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  Speaker 2: They'll do the wrong things, some of them, As you said,
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  Speaker 2: how can we get them out of the wrong things
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  Speaker 2: that make them do the right thing?
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  Speaker 4: We can be part of it, and we will be
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  Speaker 4: part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Combat Scolus, the Lord Mayor of Dawin. Always good to
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  Speaker 1: catch up. Thanks so much for your time, My pleasure,
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  Speaker 1: Katie