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Brewsers #365- Zeke Andino · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: We welcome to Bruisers podcast with Beer, Coffee, Foods and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Roy John and today we talked to
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  Speaker 1: Zeke and Dino. We talked about how he made it
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  Speaker 1: into wrestling, training at Black and Brave, and.
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  Speaker 2: So much more.
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  Speaker 1: Zeke is doing absolutely awesome things in the world of
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  Speaker 1: pro wrestling and you definitely want to hear his story. So,
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  Speaker 1: without further ado, here is Zeke and Dino. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to welcome the show. Zeke and Dino. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing well? So for those listening kind
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  Speaker 1: of penis word picture, where are you at? What's going
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  Speaker 1: on around you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just at home. I'm from Gold Coast, Australia. It's
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  Speaker 4: ten o'clock in the morning here. I think we're what
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  Speaker 4: thirteen hours ahead or something. Yeah, so it's a Sunday
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  Speaker 4: day here, but just cruising.
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  Speaker 1: Since you have already started Wednesday. Is there anything we
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  Speaker 1: can look forward to?
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully good weather on your side of the world. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what it's like over there, but we're fortunate today. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're saying you might run the next couple hours, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's north Texas any.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the States.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm in Texas, Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I've never been.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you should I wasn't. Yeah. The rest thing scene
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  Speaker 1: here in Texas is fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The few times that I've been to America, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of my mates were booked on shows in Texas but
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  Speaker 4: never lined up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're putting it out in the universe now that
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  Speaker 1: you are going to get next time. Yes, exactly. Add
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  Speaker 1: it to your world tour. Yes. Well, let's go all
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  Speaker 1: the way back in time. What is your earliest memory
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  Speaker 1: of pro wrestling.
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't recall like when the first match or when
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  Speaker 4: I first saw it on TV. I just I do
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  Speaker 4: remember that I was maybe it would have been two
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  Speaker 4: thousand and three dish because I think I was five
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  Speaker 4: years old, so I'm ninety eight and the family got
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  Speaker 4: the paid TV. Back then it was like a Star
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  Speaker 4: or Foxtaiale and and I think one day I just
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  Speaker 4: stumbled across pro wrestling on TV.
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  Speaker 3: It was WW.
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  Speaker 4: It would have been either SmackDown or Raw and that
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  Speaker 4: was Yeah. I just remember being hooked. I can't recall
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  Speaker 4: the first match. I remember having no concept of television programming.
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  Speaker 4: So I just thought every time I turned on the TV,
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  Speaker 4: no matter what channel, wrestling would be on. And it
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  Speaker 4: took me a little while to realize, Okay, it's on
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  Speaker 4: it's on Fox here in Australia, and it's on a
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  Speaker 4: you know, a Tuesday and or Friday night and replays
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  Speaker 4: are on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that's that.
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  Speaker 1: When did you realize that there was other wrestling out there?
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  Speaker 1: Because obviously I feel like especially you know, people of
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  Speaker 1: your age and my age as well, I mean especially
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  Speaker 1: since the eighties, like WWE was like it like that
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  Speaker 1: people know wrestling and they think oh ww they don't
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  Speaker 1: think anything else. But you know, obviously we all discovered
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  Speaker 1: that there's other wrestling out there and we're like, holy shit.
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  Speaker 1: So like, when was it that you were like, oh wait,
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  Speaker 1: there's other stuff other than ww.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: It took me a long time.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it didn't even click at times, especially
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  Speaker 4: for indie wrestling and local shows. I barely knew that existed.
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  Speaker 4: I do recall stumbling across TNA.
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  Speaker 1: When I think TNAP well, especially that time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah we got it, we had it at a
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  Speaker 4: good time, but even then, I just feel like it
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  Speaker 4: didn't fully click for me that it was like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is an alternative to WW.
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  Speaker 3: I just saw wrestling on TV.
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  Speaker 4: And it maybe wasn't until I would see clips on
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  Speaker 4: Facebook here and there of a lot of Ring of
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  Speaker 4: Honor and some Japanese promotions New Japan and Noah and
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  Speaker 4: but then again, like I would just see it and
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  Speaker 4: for some reason, I'd be fascinated by the matches, but
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be like, oh, I need to like what
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  Speaker 4: is Ring of Honor or what is jpan Pro Wrestling?
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  Speaker 4: So as I got older, like, things kept popping up,
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  Speaker 4: but it wasn't until maybe twenty third team ish was
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  Speaker 4: when I fully dug deep into other companies outside of
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  Speaker 4: the WWE and started to become obsessed, especially with Ring
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  Speaker 4: of Honor. Once I found found out about Ring of Honor,
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was probably my first sort of obsession
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  Speaker 4: outside of the WWA.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, especially for someone who is like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I felt like Ring of Honor, especially
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  Speaker 1: early on, was definitely a wrestlers wrestling kind of company
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to obviously ww is going to be the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment company and everybody loves them, and you know, everyone
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  Speaker 1: gravitates to them or comes in and out of the
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  Speaker 1: company at some point, but you know you are if
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  Speaker 1: you're a real fan. Like Ring of Honors was just
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  Speaker 1: one of those companies that you just watched all the
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  Speaker 1: time because you they had all the all these new
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  Speaker 1: people coming in. They obviously did so much internationally, and
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  Speaker 1: then you know they're I mean, look at the pedigree
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  Speaker 1: of all the people that have come through there.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that a lot of them were stars many years ago.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of them are like the top of the
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  Speaker 4: industry at the moment. I hope that it gets back
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  Speaker 4: to a place where Ring of Honor is as prominent
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  Speaker 4: as it once was. That that's like a dream of mine,
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  Speaker 4: is to compete in Ring of Honor, but to be
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  Speaker 4: around like those Danielson days, someholl with Joe Punk, Nogial McGuinness, Bustinarios,
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  Speaker 4: like all those people that just would have been insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah going. And they never did big venues except for
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  Speaker 1: like the Hammerstein I think was maybe like the biggest
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  Speaker 1: they would do for a while.
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  Speaker 3: And it was especially like.
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  Speaker 1: It was a Supercard of Honor was always wrestling a
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  Speaker 1: weekend and it was never really massive arenas. It was
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  Speaker 1: always just like okay, later when they had like the
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  Speaker 1: Bucks and obviously Omega was there. Sometimes, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: would do the bigger ones. We all know that Mascuare
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  Speaker 1: Garden was more or less sold out by New Japan
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  Speaker 1: than it was Ring of Honor, but it was still
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  Speaker 1: an amazing show if anybody went, so you know, they
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  Speaker 1: never went huge. It was always reasonable amount of people
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  Speaker 1: you could.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I like the small especially concert wise and wrestling wise.
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  Speaker 1: I like smaller venues than the hu huge ones, like
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  Speaker 1: I go to Meina every year, but it's just because
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  Speaker 1: it's WrestleMania, so but I don't like. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: like that many people, Like I don't like being around
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  Speaker 1: that many people because you the performers, get lost in
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  Speaker 1: it all and you're not Like I feel like, especially
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  Speaker 1: smaller crowds, you can get interact so much more with
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  Speaker 1: the crowd.
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  Speaker 4: It feels more like intimate to extent, I do, I
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  Speaker 4: guess because over here in Australia, like getting those bigger
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  Speaker 4: shows is only every so often, so it's like special
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  Speaker 4: to us. It is really cool to go to an
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  Speaker 4: arena or a stadium show like for the spectacle itself.
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  Speaker 4: But I do agree like being in those smaller arenas,
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  Speaker 4: like whether it's just two, three, five thousand people, even
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  Speaker 4: like a thousand people and they're all it's close, they're
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  Speaker 4: huddle together, they're filled to the back wall and they're
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  Speaker 4: just into it like that's it's such a sick vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, European obviously Australian crowds as well
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  Speaker 1: are so much more lively than American fans. And I
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  Speaker 1: wish that we had the same kind of like sing
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  Speaker 1: songy chants that y'all have, or just like the you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you guys don't get it very much,
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  Speaker 1: so when you do, it's super special when you guys
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  Speaker 1: really turn up for it. But I also see online
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  Speaker 1: like the even the small intimate shows like you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about, the fans are still the same, but it's
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  Speaker 1: just in a smaller venue. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now the fans, We're very fortunate. We do have
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  Speaker 4: passionate fans. It's it's interesting you say that. I agree
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  Speaker 4: with like the European scene and the UK how they're
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  Speaker 4: felt like the chance that they have. But I also
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  Speaker 4: feel like when I've been to America and done some
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  Speaker 4: indide shows, the fans they do get I feel like
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  Speaker 4: they just they love it differently.
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  Speaker 3: There's a different love for the wrestling over here.
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  Speaker 4: And that's not to say that the Aussie fans don't
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  Speaker 4: love pro wrestling at all, because they absolutely do.
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  Speaker 3: I just felt like there was a different type of
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  Speaker 3: connection over there.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, for those bigger shows that you were saying
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  Speaker 4: that when Sena had his retirement over in Perth, Australia
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  Speaker 4: and the fans are doing those chants like yeah, that's unreal.
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  Speaker 4: Like to be able to wrestle in front of a
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  Speaker 4: crowd like that, would that would be a dream?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fans really got to gotta show that night,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean anytime you get aj Styles and Johnson
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  Speaker 1: and a ring together and they're doing other people's moves,
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  Speaker 1: which is even better, Like yeah, yeah, that was a
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  Speaker 1: t won't happen again.
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  Speaker 4: I was lucky enough to see those two compete in
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  Speaker 4: their original feud. It would have been maybe twenty sixteen ish,
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  Speaker 4: and they came and did the Australian Tour and back
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  Speaker 4: then they were still doing the live events, but they
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  Speaker 4: never they just advertised who was on the tour, but
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  Speaker 4: they never really put out the card. So you I'd
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  Speaker 4: be online and you would see you would always kind
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  Speaker 4: of hope that the city the night prior had like
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  Speaker 4: Aj and Sena in a tag match, because that would
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  Speaker 4: most likely mean you'd get them in his singles the
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  Speaker 4: next night, like you know, they would kind of the
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  Speaker 4: card would alter and one night there'd be a select
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  Speaker 4: few maybe putting on some solid singles and half of
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  Speaker 4: the crew doing tag matches and maybe saving some months,
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  Speaker 4: and then the following night they would alternate, and man,
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  Speaker 4: I got I think that year I got Styles and
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  Speaker 4: Sena in a singles, Roman and Cess in a singles.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jericho was there that year.
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  Speaker 4: Two he had a potentially a singles match maybe against
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  Speaker 4: Finmnbala or Neville even back then. But it was the
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  Speaker 4: cards that I've got to witness in Australia back when
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  Speaker 4: they were doing the house of the live shows were
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  Speaker 4: so good.
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  Speaker 1: I miss the live shows and I know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know Cody Roase has really made it a point
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  Speaker 1: to say that they need the house shows again. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, tk O the way they're trying to cut
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  Speaker 1: costs and everything cut costs, but then rise ticket prices
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  Speaker 1: made no sense. But again you have this corporate wrestling
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  Speaker 1: where they don't care if the men and women actually
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  Speaker 1: get their reps in and get their figure out who
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  Speaker 1: their character is or how they work in the ring.
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  Speaker 1: They're just like, Okay, no, we have TV and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's all you need. But unless it's internationals, then they'll do,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the live events.
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  Speaker 3: It's a tough one, isn't it. Yeah, I it's really hot.
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  Speaker 4: It's easy for me to say because I haven't been
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  Speaker 4: in their position, whet, but I always growing up dreamed
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  Speaker 4: of making it to the w w A because that
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  Speaker 4: was all the only thing that was aroundom And when
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  Speaker 4: I used to hear like the stories about being on
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  Speaker 4: the road, I just that sort of work horse and grind.
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  Speaker 3: I always gravitated towards.
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  Speaker 4: That, and I drained of like, you know, you hear
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  Speaker 4: like Rick Flair's stories and and you know, so I
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  Speaker 4: think it It is cool, I guess, you know, saving
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  Speaker 4: you know that their bodies a bit is nice. But
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  Speaker 4: I feel like a few extra shows a week wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't hurt, But like, who am I I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I really liked when Dominic Mysterio was kind of bouncing
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  Speaker 4: from raw to SmackDown to NXT and he and he
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  Speaker 4: then like is over to Mexico and and I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: that that's like a workhoorse right there. Like he's getting
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  Speaker 4: his reps and he's doing all the shows. I thought
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  Speaker 4: that was really cool. So yeah, it would be nice
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  Speaker 4: for a few extra shows a week for As you
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  Speaker 4: just said that people can figure out what works for
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  Speaker 4: them what doesn't. But jezus, they're the one. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they're running a billion dollar corporation and I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: So no same. I mean, we all have the ideas,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't have the money to do it. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe one day. Yeah, well so you you trained at
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  Speaker 1: Black and Breathe. How did that even happened? Because you're
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  Speaker 1: in Australia. They're in Iowa, which I imagine is a
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  Speaker 1: complete culture shock for anybody in America really outside of Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: Iowa was a culture shark. So how did that whole
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  Speaker 1: process he happen?
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  Speaker 3: The process itself was.
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  Speaker 4: I just so Seth was a guy that quickly became
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  Speaker 4: one of my favorites. It was when I remember just
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  Speaker 4: being younger and liking to think, oh, I'm starting to
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  Speaker 4: figure out wrestling, and I can appreciate when Hill is
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  Speaker 4: a good wrestler and I'm not going to boo him
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  Speaker 4: because I'm smart what does go through that era? But
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  Speaker 4: I just remember gravitating towards Seth Rowlins. So when he
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  Speaker 4: announced that he had a school, I was always opening
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  Speaker 4: the school. I was only sixteen at the time, I think,
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  Speaker 4: and you had to be eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: And then they put out their.
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  Speaker 4: Dates like a year, like the Air three training camps,
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  Speaker 4: a year like a year in advance. And they put
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  Speaker 4: out the training dates for twenty seventeen, and this is
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  Speaker 4: now in it is in twenty sixteen, so I'm still seventeen.
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  Speaker 4: But the September one in twenty seventeen I would have
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  Speaker 4: been eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: So I booked that.
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  Speaker 4: Out maybe a year and a half in advance to
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  Speaker 4: like secure on my spot, and then just saved up.
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  Speaker 3: The process was it was somewhat. It wasn't overly difficult.
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  Speaker 4: It was just obtaining a particular type of visa because
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  Speaker 4: the camp itself is three months, and for an Australian
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  Speaker 4: to come to America, like you can get a holiday visa,
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  Speaker 4: but that only last ninety days. So I had to
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  Speaker 4: get an extended visa and go through that sort of process,
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  Speaker 4: which included flying to Sydney Embassy to just go through
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  Speaker 4: like you know, like induction sort of pro so or
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  Speaker 4: like an interview process and all that sort of stuff,
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  Speaker 4: a background check, and but then yeah, as you said,
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  Speaker 4: it is it is funny like I get like this.
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  Speaker 4: I got questioned at customs or TSA or whatever, and
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  Speaker 4: they just like, We're like, why are you going to Molleyne,
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  Speaker 4: Illinois and Davenport, Iowa?
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  Speaker 3: And I like to.
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  Speaker 4: Tell people back home, like, you know, obviously every place
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  Speaker 4: in the world has like and I think it's like
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  Speaker 4: such a laid back, sort of cruisy place, But I
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  Speaker 4: do tell people back here. Can I compare it to
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: places here at home that are sort of smaller? Like
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  Speaker 4: imagine if you know, someone from Las Vegas was traveling
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  Speaker 4: to Australia to come to oh like Bow Desert or
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  Speaker 4: the Ring, which is just like these you know, little suburbs,
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  Speaker 4: like no one from any part of the world would
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  Speaker 4: be like, oh, I'm going.
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  Speaker 3: To check this off the bucket list.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, so that was funny that they, yeah, the
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  Speaker 4: customs and Tessa questioned it, but it was all good.
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  Speaker 1: What was it like again being in Iowa? Well, I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what was like being and I would because you were there,
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  Speaker 1: you said in the fall, right.
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  Speaker 4: It's September, so it was yeah, it was that that's
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  Speaker 4: getting cold. Yeah, And towards the back end we started
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  Speaker 4: to experience some snow and it got a lot colder.
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense, yeah, because they get they get real cold.
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  Speaker 3: Up there, Yes, compared to where I'm from, especially.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, where I'm from there, I know they get cold.
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  Speaker 1: So what was it like being there? Like, what what
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like you learned the most being you
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  Speaker 1: know under Malick because he was on the show when
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  Speaker 1: he's he seems like a wealth of knowledge when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to pro wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: God, it was just it was everything.
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  Speaker 4: So by that stage, I'd only been training for a
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  Speaker 4: year and a half at a local company called IPW
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  Speaker 4: and that's where I began my pro wrestling journey. And
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  Speaker 4: and I like definitely learned a lot, especially the basics.
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  Speaker 4: But for people like I guess that American sort of
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  Speaker 4: just those guys, there's so much more I guess opportunity
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  Speaker 4: in America when it comes to the training and people
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  Speaker 4: that have experienced so they really broke down the basics. Again,
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  Speaker 4: they definitely test you physically and mentally, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: But I just I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Really understanding what pro wrestling is and the foundations of it,
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  Speaker 4: the psychology of it. And it was all the basics
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  Speaker 4: because the rest you kind of figure out with experience.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, you just quickly learn how as you kind
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  Speaker 4: of said, like ow insightful and valuable. Someone like Marrek
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  Speaker 4: is Crutch is the same, and of course Seth like
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  Speaker 4: set is teaching you what he got taught at the PC,
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  Speaker 4: so it's kind of hard to argue that his methods
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  Speaker 4: are incorrect like that, I feel like there's no better
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  Speaker 4: place to go than someone like that. I guess Cody
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  Speaker 4: Rhodes has his school and Tyler Breeze and Shawn Spears.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it was just more so the work rate,
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  Speaker 4: the psychology and really nailing the basics, which after a
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: year and a half of training, I figured like I
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  Speaker 4: was like, wow, this just putting a headlock on or
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  Speaker 4: doing a particular headlock, takeover, arm drag and all that
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  Speaker 4: sort of stuff, you really get the refined details and
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  Speaker 4: it was so that was the most valuable stuff for me.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. What was it like going back home after
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that three months?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: It was unreal.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I was actually I kind of I forget who I
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: was talking to about this the other day as a friend.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: But but it was the best thing because I think
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: only one other Australian had done the Black and Brave
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: back then, because I was only Class ten and so
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: it was early days, and so coming home and being
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: able to message bookers and promotions saying hey, like, I'm
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: interested in you know, wrestling, beer promotion.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I'm trained by seth Ron's at Black and Brave.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: It was really credible back then, so and it still
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: is now of course, but just being the second Australian
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: it was really helpful. So I just came back and
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: my whole perception and outlook on wrestling change, especially how
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: to you know, sort of structure a match and why
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: we do things, why we don't do things, and and.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I was just able to wrestling.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Here in Australia, it's very difficult to wrestle on a
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: a weekly basis, like every weekend, compared to like America,
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: you jump in a car on a Thursday and you
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: can do your four day loop and you're back on
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: a Sunday night or a Monday morning and you've wrestled
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: and you do it every week, whereas here it's difficult.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So back then I was able to.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I just, yeah, wrestle most weekends, and I guess the
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: reps were necessary, But I look back and some of
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: them were pretty brutal shows to wrestle on. Not something
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I would do at this stage. But yeah, I just
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: it was good to be able to put everything I
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: learned to use and trial error, get the reps in,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and yes, sort of start to figure out the next.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Chapter of my pro wrestling you know, career.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I love that we'll talk to us about the Australian
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: scene because I know that for a long time the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: scene was not dead, but it was very sparse and
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: like people don't realize how big Australia is, and you know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: they might be happening on one side of the country
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but not on the other side of the country, or
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you know, vice versa. And then so I mean, obviously
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: it has risen so much more. We're having so much
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: more talent come over to here here in America, or
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: we hear about more talent either in New Japan or
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: wherever it is. But talk to us about what the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: scene is kind of like in Australia now.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Odd, it's it's unreal at the moment, it has been
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: for a long time. It's just like like shows are
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: selling out, that the quality and the production is top tier.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Like it's not really just someone that wants to put
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: a show on it and get some wrestlers and have
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: you know, an eight match card like this. The production
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: is unreal, the commentary, the entrance entrance videos, that the
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: story and structure of a show, the venues are unreal.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: So as a whole, like the scene is just pumping
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: at the moment. And yeah, as you said, like my
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Australian wrestling knowledge, like for the longest of time, because
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I didn't know much about the indies, let alone the Lobe.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I barely knew that there was a local wrestling school
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: until that's like another sorry for itself, but I didn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: have much knowledge. So over the years, like I've I've
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: gained knowledge and and people like Shane Haste and Mike
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Nicholas and Hartley Jackson and a lot of OSSI's Damien
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: slayter aj Istuya. These boys that they went over to
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: a lot went to Japan. Robbie Eagles is another one
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: who is in New Japan. They went to Japan in
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: the early days to do training and tours but I
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: feel like that that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Almost seems somewhat underground.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: And then it wasn't you know, as time went on,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: we saw like the Iconics and some Aussies get signed
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: to WWE, but it almost felt like it was it was, Okay,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: we've got our you know, Buddy Matthews is another one,
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Like we've got our maybe three four Australians in the
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: w w E and that's that's all we need.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Like it's more like yeah, it was like it was.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Like, okay, we need a few Aussies for that demographic,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: and then maybe we need you know, some people from
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Ireland from that demographic.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It was to keep it that worldwide sort of company.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: And it wasn't as if.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Like you could have you know, half your bloody roster Australians,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: because that's just it just didn't seem fathomable. But now,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: like you look, and as you said, like Aussie's are
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: just everyone, and I feel like they are now scouting
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: talent based off talent. And if that means that there's
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: ten Australians in your company purely because they're good, then
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: they're gonna do that. They're not going to make it
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: more so like its own little entity where you have
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: you have three Aussies in the company just for the
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: sake of having some Australians, if that makes sense.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: So so now, yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: Like as you said, you see Kyle Fletcher in aw Bat,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Buddy Matthews, you got Ria Ripley, you got you know,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Robbie Eagles in New Japan, and then you have a
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: lot of people just sort of getting out there and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: they're doing there their tours. You've got people over in
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: the European scene, people coming over for many a week
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: coming up, the Ausies that just did the WWE try
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: out not too long ago, like you had the Fleet Brothers,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the dropouts, and who else, Ricky South, who's in back
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: in Canada. They were just scattered all over the place.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: So it's a great thing. I think people are starting to,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: like you kind of said yourself, like your people are
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: taking notice and they see that we're scattered everywhere and
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: it's just a real healthy scene at the moment.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I love that. Well, So who are some people, I mean,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: obviously besides yourself that they need to be on the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: lookout for, because like you said, there's so many more
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Australians happening now than ever.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: God, there's so many the dropouts. Is one of them.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: So they did the WWE tryout and I wrestled Tuckman,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: who's won half of the dropouts not too long ago.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: What they've been able to do with their entrance especially,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I find truly amazing, Like so they've stolen, well not stolen.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: They've seen a footy crowd here. Whenever there's a try celebration,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: which I don't know if you know what that is,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: like an NFL, like a touchdown if someone scores, the
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: crowd do this sort of chant to Chelsea Dagger in
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: unisons where they're sort of it's almost like the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Fun dongo point in your fingers in the air.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: So they've done that for their entrance and to get
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: that over in like your sort of home promotion where
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: you wrestle, you know, on a monthly basis, is that
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: that's one thing, because that crowd becomes familiar with you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: But he came to so he's from Sydney.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: He came to Gold Coast or Brisbane, which might be
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a city that you know, which is ten hours away
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: from where he is, to another indie promotion. And this
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: is where I sort of was referring to earlier with
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: the American crowds and the Australian crowds, where the Americans,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like, are so invested in the indies that
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: like something can be happening on you know, the East
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Coast and they know it on the other side, like
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: they're just that invested in the indie scene, whereas in
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Australia the crowds are sort of to their own, like
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: you know, if they're from one place, they go see
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: But this Tuckman came out and everyone in the crowd
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: was doing his entrance and I always just remember watching
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: it just being like Wow.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: The fact that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: He's been able to get this over in multiple companies.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Is unreal.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: So the dropouts would be one of them. Adam Brooks
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: has been around for a long time and he's actually done.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: He's done some stuff in in TNA or Impact I
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: believe MLW, and he's over in in the States at
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: the moment, so I'd love for something. He was actually
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: signed signed to Ring of Honor before COVID, him and
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: another guy named Slex and then COVID happened and that
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that sort of fell through.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: So those guys.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: You have people like Kingsley, Charlie Evans that they're overseas
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: at the moment.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Got it really an endless sort of list.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: That's good. That's that's a good problem to have.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: That's a good problem to have. Well.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, you've been wrestling now, this year will
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: be ten years, so congratulations. What do you kind of
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: feel like you've learned the most over those ten years?
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: What I feel like I've learned the most.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: One, it's it's not easy, and not just in the ring,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Like there's so much that people don't realize obviously that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: happens outside or backstage or on the way to a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: show or away at home or whatever it is.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, I remember being younger and I wanted
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: to beat Randy Autumn as the youngest. So that's kind
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: of out the drain now. But obviously it's it's just
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: one of my learned It's just it's not easy. I've
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: always had the mentality that as long as you don't quit,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: then you're always in with a chance. And I feel
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like Jericho and Matt Cardona sort of preached that too.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I feel like just being willing to try new things.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: You know, you might find something that works, but you've
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: got to freshen it up every so often and just
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: not being afraid to sort of try new things. I
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: kind of got caught in a shell for a little while,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: and I guess taking risk. I feel like my biggest
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: opportunities have come from taking risk. Like I was lucky
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: enough to compete and two tours in Japan in twenty
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: twenty four, and that wouldn't have happened if I didn't
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: book a flight to Japan. And the only reason I
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: was going to Japan initially it was for ten days.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: It was one.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Booking this overbooked indie show by Taka miss Andoku who
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: have wanted to do this indie junior tournament.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: It was a twelve hour show.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Well it was from sunrise the sunset, and that was
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: the only show I had booked over there, and I was.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Just like suffered. I'm going to stick around and.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: See Japan for a bit and see Wrestle Kingdom. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: just because I was over there, I got offered to
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: do two other shows at BJW and then they said, hey,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: these are our dates for the next like six or
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: seven weeks, would you like to do it? And I
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: just extended my flights and accommodation and like it was
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: just down in my last penny, but took that risk
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: and I ended up making good connections and getting to
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: do another tour with them later in the year. Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: so just taking risk. I guess the same with America.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Like I remember sitting down on my bedroom next to
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: mom because she wasn't Mom and Dad weren't too fond
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: of the wrestling career, and I don't blame him, And
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I just remember Mum sitting next to me and you
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: had to put down a down payment for Black and Brave,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: like half of the deposit or half of the full payment, sorry,
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: and just sitting there on PayPal, just staring at like
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: the send button and just thinking all far, like you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: screw it, Like I don't want to be sixty. I
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: would rather like look back when I'm sixty and regret
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: trying something rather than regret not trying something. And yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: just bloody taking a risk and having a crack like
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: it something you really want to do, Like you got
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: to put yourself out there there, you.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Go, kids, pay attention to take notes. Now, if people
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: have never seen you wrestle before, what three matches should
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they go out of their way to watch?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I would say, God, I'm terrible with dates. I believe
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: these are all on YouTube. My match against a guy
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: named Ec Diamond at PWL that would have been in
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, maybe the beginning or first quarter of
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty five.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: A match of Mind also at PWL.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: PWL is called Project a Pro Wrestling League, and another
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: match against Tim Hayden back in maybe twenty twenty two
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: or twenty twenty three, but it's also on YouTube, And
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: then I would say it would be a toss up between.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: There's a six man tag I had in Japan which
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I just love. It was six minutes long, but just
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: the pacing of it and and everything that we did.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: So I think I've just got that as like BJW
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: six man tag match on YouTube. Or I got to
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: have a triple threat title match at Curracan Hall for
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the BJW Junior Heavyweight Championship against Enda Kara and Koda
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Seki Fuda.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: So yeah, the fact that that was at Coracan Hall
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: was Yeah, that that's was like a dream fulfilled Wow.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a place I mean, even as a fan
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I want to go to and be like just take
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: it in. Yeah. That again, it's one of those things
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: it's like you seem like it's on the other side
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of the world, but just book that flight and go, like.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: That's it's the best I know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm assuming you haven't been to Japan.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, yet. It is definitely far.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: It's just yeah, the crowds there are just it's very
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: different to like a European or American based crowd, where like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: you know, you might attend some shows and there's beer
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: and they're standing up and they're yelling and and potentially
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: swearing at you and that's all fun. Like I love
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: that too, but in Japan, like you're like, especially at
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: places like Coracan, they have like rules for the fans,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: like you can't stand, you can't like, you can't like
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know, They're just they clap and they cheer
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: and they really appreciate what you're doing and to go watch.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Like especially I'm heading back to Japan in June and
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I'm going to the Best of June the Best of
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Super Junior is final, which I believe held at Coracon
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Hall and then Dominion in Osaka, and like I'm so
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: excited to see like the matches themselves, but when they
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: get to like the top of the card, like the
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: semi and main event, just how like, obviously great the
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: wrestling is, and then how great the response is from
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: the crowd and how invested they are, oh so excited.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is high on my list of places
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: don't need to be to see wrestling, So yeah, I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: can't wait.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I recommend it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I have a segment on the show. I call
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: it the five countants. There's five random questions. Yep, number one,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: what are you nerding out on? Right now?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: What am I nerding? You know what?
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: This is really random, and it was something I was
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: going to keep on the download but and I don't
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: know if this is what you're referring to, but I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: nerding out on coder Ibugi okay. And the reason being
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: is God, I wanted to keep this on the down
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: low until it happened.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: But I'll be training with CODA in Japan.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was something I want I don't really
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: want to I guess about in jail. I've told some
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: close friends, but I just wanted to kind of put
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: a post out there on Instagram because obviously things change
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: all the time, not only in wrestling but life in general,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: so it might not come to fruition, but we've teed
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: up some training and and I'm nerding out on it
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: one because he's one of my favorites of all time.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: He's an absolute legend. And then back when I was
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: in Japan, a friend of mine also got involidd to
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: go train with him. He was we were touring with
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: bj W and and then one day I just see
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: on X or Twitter, whatever you want to call it,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Cody has posted a photo with Endakara and we had
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: a Sean like, dude.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what's this?
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Like what Then He's just like yeah, man, like he
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: wanted to do some training, had his like little private dojo,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: and Cooder's like shouting out saying like everyone keep an
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: eye on car, and it was just.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I couldn't believe.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I'm like, how is this even possible for someone like
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: his big as coda in the wrestling scene. I guess
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: he's he is prominent on social media, but he isn't
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: at the same time, like you can find him, but
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: it's also like he's not on he's active Budd's.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to explain. It's he's there, but
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: he's not.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing for like I feel like to
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: get a hold of people in Japan is really difficult sometimes.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: So yeah, for this to come about, man, I found
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: out at like ten pm at night, and and I
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: just went straight to the gym.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I was laying in bed, and I just I could
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: run through a prickle. I went straight to the gym. Man.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I was like doing my squats and my push.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: Ups, and like, because in Japan, like obviously you have
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: like your Hindu squats and your Japanese like line push.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Ups, which are a different form of squats and fut.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: And I'm pumping those out and and I'm getting to
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: work out in and I'm watching like Cody Booshie highlights
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: and I come home and like I'm watching him in
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: the g One Climax, and I was like, I can't
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: believe this is real right now. And and that goes
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: back to like your question earlier too, is that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: That was all just taking a risk.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I had nothing lined up in June, and I'd been
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: wanting to go back to Japan for the longest time,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: and I just thought, you know what, that's one of
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: those places where you've got to be there and be
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: in front of them so they know, like as a foreigner,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: like you were there, Like, I guess there's stories of
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: foreigners kind of maybe pulling out on shows, especially indie shows,
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  Speaker 4: and and so they don't want to take that risk
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  Speaker 4: of booking someone outside of Japan, and because it looks
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  Speaker 4: bad on them to promote someone from overseas, and then
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: they don't show up. And that was just that thing.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just gonna go back to Japan. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: and now all these good things are lining up, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: it's it's looking to be my favorite a few weeks there,
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: so far from what I've a plan A long answer, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. I can't wait to hear how this turns
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: out afterwards. And question number two, if you owned a
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: liquor company, brewery, winery, coffee shop, or dispensary, which one
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: would you own and what would the name be?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I would go maybe.
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  Speaker 3: A Licka store.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess just because my monic is a doc Horse,
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  Speaker 4: so maybe like doc Horse Liqua or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, I like that, Yeah that works. Number three,
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  Speaker 1: what would your last meal be?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God, my mom makes a great lasagna or a
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: plot roast, So I'll go with lasagna.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I made Lasagna.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so tasty. Number four, Who are what inspires you?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Who what inspies me?
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  Speaker 5: Who?
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: What inspies me?
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: God? When it comes to individuals, the list is endless.
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  Speaker 4: As Muhammad a leader, as Arnold, there's Brian Daniels and
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: as Seth.
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  Speaker 3: Rollins, and then it's my family too.
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  Speaker 4: It's wanting to be great for them, but also knowing
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: that it was very unexpected for me to take the
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: path of wrestling, so they have supported me, but I
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: also want to show them that it was worth it
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  Speaker 4: in the end.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: And number five what would you tell your seventeen year
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: old self?
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  Speaker 4: I also want to go back to that other that
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: that question just then. Numberfore, I have two younger sisters.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: One has Down syndrome and and she she is my
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: biggest fan, loves wrestling because of me I didn't have.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: I don't have any brothers, so when it came to
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: wrestling growing up, she was my the one that I
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: got on the trampoline to practice my batista bombs and
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: sharp shoes, so I turned her into a tomboy. But
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I've been fortunate enough when I've had big moments in
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: my local shows that she's joined me in the ring,
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: and my dream is to one day main event a
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: big show, whether it's a WrestleMania or something at Wembley
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Stadium with aw and have her celebrate in the ring
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: with me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: So she's also a huge inspiration. And what was number five? Sorry?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Oh you're fine? I love that. What would you tell
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: your seventeen year old self?
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Take more risk, take more risks, put yourself out there,
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: don't wait for things to come to you. I remember
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: the just recently, the past few years, I got in
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: a bit of a rut with wrestling, and maybe I
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: guess you could call it ego, like I could admit
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: it was somewhat of an ego. I don't think I'm
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: like great, I'm not the greatest by any means. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: don't think I'm a huge deal in Australia. I'm humble
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: enough to know to know that. But I just thought,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: because of some of my accomplishments that maybe things would
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: come my way. But unfortunately, in wrestling and life in general,
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: things don't happen like that. People forget quickly, So you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: don't stop hustling, keep grinding like it's day one, every day,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: just like it was when I came back from Black
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and Brave in twenty eighteen, and every single day I'm
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: sending emails messages to promoters and bookers and companies asking
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: for a booking. So just to keep up that hustle
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: the whole way through and keep taking risks, you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: keep spending your life savings ten times over to go
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: do a tour or train. Yeah, and don't be afraid. Yeah,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: don't be afraid to try new things.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's awesome. I mean that's great advice for
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: anybody at any age. Yeah.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Now, if people want to find out more about you,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: see you live, follow you online, help support you in
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: any way, how can they do?
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: So I'm just Z Candina on everything. That's z k
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: A and d I n O. That's Instagram X. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: have a YouTube where I used to film some vlogs,
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: but i've.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: They were all right.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: But that's something I'm working out at the moment, is
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: being more active with I guess vlogging if you want
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: to call it, just days in the life, just shine
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes of a show day on YouTube. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of piling up some videos for that and
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: then I'm most active on Instagram and and X. I'm
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: trying to be more active because I feel like it's
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: big in the States in Japan and yeah, if there's
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: stuff coming up, I'm always posting it, whether it's a
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: post or on my story.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, Zeke.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. I've loved this conversation.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like we could talk for so much longer
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to see how Japan works out
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: for you this year.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I appreciate the opportunity to come on and have a
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: chat through.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: Thank you for that, no problem.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much as Zeke for being on the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: show again. Definitely make sure to follow him on social
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: media because he you want to find out where he is,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you want to buy his merch, you want to help
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: him out as much as possible. Uh So, definitely do
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: that because he's gonna be on a world tour and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: he's gonna come around to see you, so when he does,
• 43:32
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• 43:35
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• 43:37
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• 43:39
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• 43:42
  Speaker 1: us an email, it is Bruisespod. At gmail dot com.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna follow me directly, it is Rody John.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: That is r O d I E j O N.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Roady John is the name on the Twitter and an
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: untapped cause you want to find out when I'm drinking,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: maybe we canna have a beer together. If you're gonna
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: follow me on the threads or the Instagram, it is
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a Fisher Rody John. So until next time, make.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Sure to enjoy life, drink local and.
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