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Ohio State Scheme Insider: How Matt Patricia Is Using More Stunts On The Defensive Line · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: at BuckeyeInsiders.com. Michael, we got to talk about stunts. And
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  Speaker 1: this is something that we've seen this. I think Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State fans probably have seen this when they're watching the
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State offense and sometimes stuff that was working pretty
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  Speaker 1: well against the Ohio State offensive line last year. But
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  Speaker 1: you haven't seen as much of it from the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State defensive line this year, at least in game one
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  Speaker 1: against Ball State. Feels like that was something that picked
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  Speaker 1: up a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's not much for me to take
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  Speaker 2: away from the Ball State game in terms of individual
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  Speaker 2: performances because, you know, the difference in competition was just massive. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they didn't really have a real passing game.
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  Speaker 2: They had to run kind of a funky offense by necessity.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, stunts was something that we saw a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: And just to give an idea of what a stunt is, essentially,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a predetermined call for a defensive lineman or
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  Speaker 2: multiple defensive linemen to execute some sort of slant or
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  Speaker 2: twist when the ball is snapped. That's something that Indiana
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  Speaker 2: has kind of become infamous for. They execute those stunts
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  Speaker 2: so perfectly, and it gives the offensive lines all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of fits. Now, stunting was something that Patricia did not
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  Speaker 2: do much of last season, but I saw a ton
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  Speaker 2: of it on Saturday, especially when compared to last season.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm wondering... if that's going to be more a
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  Speaker 2: part of the defensive scheme going forward. And we're going
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  Speaker 2: to go over a few examples of some of the
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  Speaker 2: stunts I noticed on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, the first example you're going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about is the Raider stunt. But before we even
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  Speaker 1: get into that, I just wanted to get a thought
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  Speaker 1: from you on why, if this is a bigger thing
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  Speaker 1: moving forward, is this a, they don't think they can
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  Speaker 1: get pressure from, with more of a straightforward rush like
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  Speaker 1: they've used in previous years with the guys or the
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  Speaker 1: combination of guys they have this year? Or is it
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  Speaker 1: just they looked at Indiana and went, well, work for them,
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  Speaker 1: should work for us too.
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  Speaker 2: I can't obviously say for sure what went through the
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff's mind on this. I'm sure some of it
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  Speaker 2: had to do with watching teams like Indiana have so
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  Speaker 2: much success stunting. But I also think a big reason
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  Speaker 2: is because last year, you know, you had Katie McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: at the nose technique spot. He was probably the best
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  Speaker 2: nose tackle in the country. And they were kind of
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  Speaker 2: just able to play that penny front, clog all the
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  Speaker 2: gaps by staying static as opposed to doing all the stunting, twisting,
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  Speaker 2: and moving. And I think this year it's probably just
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  Speaker 2: an effort to try to change the picture post-snap a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more to kind of compensate for not having that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, first round level nose tackle in there.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So let's start with the first one and
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  Speaker 1: it is the Raider stunt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this stunt is often called a Raider stunt.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially what it is, is you're going to have the
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  Speaker 2: five technique defensive end and the one technique nose tackle
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  Speaker 2: to his side are going to shoot one gap to
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  Speaker 2: their insides. So the defensive end is going to be
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  Speaker 2: shooting inside to his B gap while the nose tackle
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  Speaker 2: is going to be slanting one gap over to the
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  Speaker 2: A gap. And you can tell that these are called
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  Speaker 2: stunts and not simply just the defensive linemen reacting to
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  Speaker 2: what they see because The second the ball is snapped,
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  Speaker 2: they take these hard, very intentional lateral steps with their
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  Speaker 2: right feet to kind of get that slant motion going.
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  Speaker 2: And you can even see the linebackers, as a result
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  Speaker 2: of this, they kind of move towards the gaps that
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  Speaker 2: the defensive linemen are vacating when they stunt. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the stunt obviously here creates a little bit of havoc.
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  Speaker 2: And some shoddy tackling, which was kind of a theme
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  Speaker 2: of the day as well. That was one negative takeaway
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  Speaker 2: from the Ohio State defense. But obviously, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: created some havoc and they were able to get in
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  Speaker 2: the backfield and stop it for virtually no gain.
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  Speaker 1: And so this next one is called a blood stunt.
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  Speaker 1: How is this different?
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  Speaker 2: So a blood stunt, you're going to have the three
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  Speaker 2: tech is going to be stunting from the B gap
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  Speaker 2: into the A gap. And the nose tackle is going
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  Speaker 2: to be stunting from his A gap out to the
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  Speaker 2: B gap. So it's really just a stunt between the
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  Speaker 2: two defensive tackles. And once again, you can notice they're hard,
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  Speaker 2: very intentional steps when making these stunts. And once again,
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  Speaker 2: the linebackers, their initial movements are kind of towards the
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  Speaker 2: gaps that the defensive tackles are vacating when they stunt.
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  Speaker 2: And once again, more shaky tackling, but they do get
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  Speaker 2: the ball carrier down for a pretty short game.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're going to move on to a couple that
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  Speaker 1: they ran against passing plays. And this is really interesting
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  Speaker 1: because these are two stunts that are the same guys
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  Speaker 1: moving in the same way, but the difference is they're
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  Speaker 1: doing it in different orders. So the first one is
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  Speaker 1: called exit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So on this play right here, which you'll see
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  Speaker 2: the defense is in two hole coverage on Saturday, Matt
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  Speaker 2: Patricia primarily played cover one man, but he also played
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  Speaker 2: cover three and cover two. He kind of, that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of what he goes with is cover one, two, and three.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't play a ton of quarters, or at least
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  Speaker 2: he didn't last year. But oftentimes when he played zone
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  Speaker 2: and passing situations, he would call a stunt. So here
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  Speaker 2: you've got cover two hole, which is a type of
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  Speaker 2: non-traditional Tampa two, where the nickel is dropping back to
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  Speaker 2: one of the deep half spots rather than the field safety.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll see the field safety here. Jalen McLean, in
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  Speaker 2: this case, kind of drops down to become that pole
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  Speaker 2: player in the high hole. But what you'll also notice
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  Speaker 2: is that the three technique and the defensive end to
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  Speaker 2: his side are executing a stunt, and this is called
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  Speaker 2: an exit stunt. So if you look at the end
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  Speaker 2: zone view of the stunt here, you'll notice that the
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  Speaker 2: defensive end immediately is shooting inside to that B gap,
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  Speaker 2: while the three tech is going to loop around to
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  Speaker 2: become the contain rusher outside on the C gap. The
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  Speaker 2: reason this stunt is called exit, a good way to
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  Speaker 2: remember it, is because the end is going first and
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  Speaker 2: the tackle is going second. So hence, you know, E
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  Speaker 2: then T. And obviously one of the stunting guys does
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  Speaker 2: get home here. So this in theory should be a
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  Speaker 2: positive play. Unfortunately, there was a horse collar, but, you know,
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  Speaker 2: still exciting to see a stunt executed and essentially work
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  Speaker 2: just if not for that penalty.
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  Speaker 1: James Smith actually talked about that play at interviews on
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night and said he was running and he saw
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  Speaker 1: Kenyatta Jackson running next to him. And he thought he'd
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  Speaker 1: better beat Kenyatta Jackson to that spot because he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get that sack and not Kenyatta Jackson. So next
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  Speaker 1: one is called Tex. And I feel like you have
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  Speaker 1: kind of given us the little tip off on how
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  Speaker 1: this one's going to be different because, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: letters T and E are in a different order here.
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly. So the stunt that the three tech and
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  Speaker 2: the defensive end are running with each other on this
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  Speaker 2: play is called text because it is quite literally the
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  Speaker 2: inverse of exit. The tackle is going to be going
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  Speaker 2: first and he's going to be fighting B gap through
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  Speaker 2: the C gap while the end is going to be
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  Speaker 2: looping all the way around inside of the A gap.
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  Speaker 2: The coverage here is a cover three buzz, very common coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Essentially what cover three buzz is, is it's a four
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  Speaker 2: underneath three deep zone coverage where you have a safety
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  Speaker 2: buzzing down to one of the hook zones and a
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  Speaker 2: linebacker dropping to one of the curl flat zones. But
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the end zone view of the
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  Speaker 2: stunt here, you really do want to see the three
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  Speaker 2: tech tackle work all the way outside to become the
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  Speaker 2: C gap contain rusher here. He kind of gets caught
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  Speaker 2: up in the B gap and not able to get
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  Speaker 2: all the way outside. And that's kind of why the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback is able to rush outside the pocket and unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: create a positive play here. The one positive is that
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  Speaker 2: the three tech did do a good job occupying both
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  Speaker 2: the guard and the tackle. And that's what allowed the
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  Speaker 2: defensive end to loop all the way around and through
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  Speaker 2: the a gap completely untouched. Just again, we'd like to
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  Speaker 2: see that get home. Of course, there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of that on Saturday, a lot of just not quite
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  Speaker 2: getting home or just the tackling not being quite good enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's too much of a reason to
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  Speaker 2: worry about that yet, just because I feel like in
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  Speaker 2: week one, poor tackling is not exactly an uncommon thing,
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  Speaker 2: just given the fact that when you're in camp, you
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  Speaker 2: have to limit the amount of live tackling you do
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  Speaker 2: to some extent just to prevent injuries on your own team.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so that's, again, we got to see a
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  Speaker 2: few different stunts this week, both against the run and
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  Speaker 2: against the pass. So It'll be interesting to see if
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  Speaker 2: those continue to be a staple of the defensive scheme
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  Speaker 2: going forward this year.
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  Speaker 1: You see all these times when it works or it
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  Speaker 1: at least gets someone coming through clean. I think people
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  Speaker 1: may be wondering, well, why don't you just do this
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  Speaker 1: all the time? But this is also one of those
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  Speaker 1: things that you can... you know, like there are man
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  Speaker 1: beaters or zone beaters or cover two beaters or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: There are plays that the offense can call or blocking
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  Speaker 1: schemes the offense can have set up where I would
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  Speaker 1: assume that you are sort of, you can have a
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  Speaker 1: twist or a stunt or something and get yourself into
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  Speaker 1: a spot where it's working against you and not for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, think of a stunt just like
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  Speaker 2: a blitz or something. Anytime a stunt or a twist
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  Speaker 2: just like a blitz is on some level a gamble,
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  Speaker 2: you could be risking taking yourself out of the play.
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  Speaker 2: And that's something you see at times. Like if you
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  Speaker 2: look at a touchdown run Jacoby Jackson had on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: the defensive end outside of Philip Daniels jumped all the
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  Speaker 2: way inside. And that was a predetermined, that was a
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  Speaker 2: called stunt by Ball State. And Philip Daniels correctly let
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  Speaker 2: him go unblocked because he was taking himself out of
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  Speaker 2: the play there. So yeah, there are times when stunting
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  Speaker 2: can take yourself out of the play. And sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: stunting can make it harder for the linebackers to be
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  Speaker 2: 1000% sure which gaps they're supposed to fill, depending once
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  Speaker 2: again on what type of play call the offense calls.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so there you go. An interesting look at
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  Speaker 1: stunts and some of the ways that Matt Patricia was
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  Speaker 1: calling those in week one against Ball State. We'll see
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