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  Speaker 1: The Joe Rogan Experience.
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  Speaker 2: Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to fucking put this up.
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  Speaker 3: Riley, what are you going to do with it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have thrown it out, but I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if somebody put effort into it and gave it
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  Speaker 1: to me, just keep it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. Well, that's how I wound up with
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  Speaker 3: this fucking snake on the desk. This is from.
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  Speaker 3: This, during the entire podcast, Harlan Williams had this in
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  Speaker 3: his pants. And he was saying that he got a worm.
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: And he named his worm Dimitri. And at the end
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: of the podcast, he pulls it out. And then he
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  Speaker 3: got such a fucking kick out of the fact that
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  Speaker 3: it was still on the desk when I interviewed Trump.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you explained where it came from.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say shit. President, hold that. I didn't say anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's funny. Because when you said that, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, who gave that to you?
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  Speaker 3: Is that a seven-year-old? All right. Works out.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect.
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  Speaker 1: That feels correct.
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  Speaker 3: He is so unique. He is.
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  Speaker 1: And I forgot he was in something about Mary.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which is literally one of the funniest movies ever made.
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  Speaker 3: And I watched him again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, God damn, I wish I was in that.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had one line in that movie.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. Well, the Farley brothers, they're the best.
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  Speaker 3: They have some bangers, man. You know, Kingpin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Murray.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to take these off. You don't like them? No, no,
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  Speaker 3: they're fine.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I'm so used to, I hate my own
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  Speaker 1: voice and hearing it come back. It's like I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: radio for 20 years and I still don't like to
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  Speaker 1: listen to my own fucking voice.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you used to do one. You used to do
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: the one ear thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw Rich Voss, like too many times I've
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  Speaker 1: seen clips of Voss and he just does that. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, do I look like that? Have I looked
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  Speaker 1: like that for two decades? I'm like, fucking Rich, put
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  Speaker 1: it on or take it off.
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  Speaker 3: I like one ear.
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  Speaker 1: He just likes one ear open.
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  Speaker 3: I like that one ear.
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  Speaker 1: I firmly believe that's some kind of like a childhood
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  Speaker 1: defense thing. Like there was something fishy that happened in
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  Speaker 1: childhood where you want to just kind of somehow stay present.
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  Speaker 3: Always be aware. Yeah. You might get attacked.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody fumbled.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody fumbled around.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting. Got to keep my ears open.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a thing, though. A lot of people like one
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  Speaker 3: ear on. It's not uncommon. You feel.
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  Speaker 1: When you have both ears covered, I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm lost and I'm not in the room. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess I've gotten a little bit better with it, but
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  Speaker 1: just now I'm like, wow, I really can't hear.
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  Speaker 3: I always feel like I'm just fully locked in. I
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  Speaker 3: don't hear anything else. I don't hear any distractions. When
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  Speaker 3: the headphones are on. Yeah, I like the headphones on.
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  Speaker 3: I like to be locked in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, but I just feel like, it feels
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: like I'm underwater sometimes. I don't, I went in for
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  Speaker 1: an MRI. I just go for them like once a year.
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  Speaker 3: Do you? Just for the fuck of it?
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  Speaker 1: I want to, yeah. I'm getting older and I'm like,
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I want to fucking make sure I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: Like make sure there's no lumps or anything. And they
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  Speaker 1: give you those shitty headphones. And I'm so claustrophobic. I'm
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: laying there and I'm terrified.
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  Speaker 3: And the noise. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Being married prepares you for that.
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  Speaker 3: You get good at blocking out. Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: You feel claustrophobic. There's a loud noise. You want to
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  Speaker 1: kill yourself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My wife will be in full conversation with me. I
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  Speaker 3: have no idea what she said. I just fully blocked
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  Speaker 3: it out.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How many things have I agreed to?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Because I want her to shut up.
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  Speaker 3: I told you about it the other day. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you did? I don't want to argue. I'm like, I forgot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I just tell you, but it's, I asked the guy,
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  Speaker 1: he goes, do you want music? And I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have a, I'm like, play rock.
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  Speaker 3: I just rock.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a fucking like, uh, he didn't speak
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  Speaker 1: English that well. So he started playing the Rocky theme song.
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  Speaker 1: over and over I actually bailed out and got out
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  Speaker 1: of the machine.
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  Speaker 3: Because you couldn't hear the song anymore?
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  Speaker 1: No I just was too freaked out I'm like this
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  Speaker 1: guy's not hearing me I'm squeezing that fucking ball it's
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  Speaker 1: awful so he had to take me out and I'm
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  Speaker 1: like I'll go back in he goes no we'll have
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  Speaker 1: to start over apparently in an MRI you have to
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  Speaker 1: be in the same position so I just said fuck
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  Speaker 1: it they did my whole body and they couldn't finish
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  Speaker 1: with the brain I was just like I'm done I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: Your brain's fine you don't want to look in there
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  Speaker 3: anymore Who knows?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't really want to see.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows what's going on in there? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Just little wires across the wrong way. Imagine if you
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  Speaker 3: could look into your brain and see your memories. Eventually.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Black Mirror did an episode of that where
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I love how they keep the technology simple,
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  Speaker 1: where you're just kind of scrolling through something and they
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  Speaker 1: can see all the memories. And you'll eventually be able
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  Speaker 1: to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, eventually we'll have a hard drive in our head.
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  Speaker 1: I would do it, too. I would absolutely link up.
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  Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last time, but Ray Kurzweil,
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: who talks about singularity, I still think his time frame
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: is wishful thinking. He thinks by 2045, he'll be in
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  Speaker 1: his 90s, so I think he's just trying to hope
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  Speaker 1: it happens before.
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  Speaker 3: He might be right. That makes sense. 20 years from now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's correct.
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  Speaker 1: I hope so.
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  Speaker 3: I think everything's moving in exponential pace, and I think...
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  Speaker 3: You know, if you just look at what's happening with AI,
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  Speaker 3: AI 10 years ago was non-existent. You never heard anything
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  Speaker 3: about it. And now everybody uses it on their phone
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  Speaker 3: all the time. I use it.
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  Speaker 1: My wife's obsessed with it, which is irritating because she
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  Speaker 1: literally will just talk to it. And so I'm like,
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: all right, let me try it and see. But it's
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: great if you get an error message on your computer. Like,
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: what does fucking.
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  Speaker 3: Error 1101 mean?
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  Speaker 1: And then you add it and it actually tells you
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  Speaker 1: in a very comprehensive way what that error message means.
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  Speaker 3: It's better than Googling something. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm using it for that.
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  Speaker 3: It's great for a lot of things. Kids are using
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: it though, unfortunately for like term papers and shit and
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  Speaker 3: they're getting busted because AI knows when it's AI. So
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  Speaker 3: they just run the paper into AI and AI goes,
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, AI made that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's, that's my work. That sucks.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, it's good for, uh, for looking things
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  Speaker 1: up right now. I'm just using it as a better Google,
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  Speaker 1: but when I attach it to my brain, No. Because
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  Speaker 1: I was in it the other day, and it said
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  Speaker 1: we detected suspicious activities, and they wanted me to log in.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe because I had a VPN or something. Because in Texas,
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: you can't jerk off without a fucking VPN. They want
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  Speaker 1: your license to watch porn.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy? It sucks. We're protecting children. Too fucking late.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, as if kids don't know about VPNs.
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  Speaker 3: They all do.
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  Speaker 1: And it's also one of those things where I get
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  Speaker 1: you don't want your kids to watch porn.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a lot harder, it was harder when I
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  Speaker 1: was a child to get, you had to find like magazines.
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  Speaker 3: In the woods. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I, I meant the smell of those old shitty
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  Speaker 1: magazines and find them and fucking, it was the best.
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  Speaker 1: But now if I had it on my phone or
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  Speaker 1: I had the availability, I mean, my sex addiction would
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  Speaker 1: have been even worse. So I guess why, I get
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  Speaker 1: why they want to protect kids.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's got to be fucking kids up. It's not
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  Speaker 3: just that, but the violence that they see. You see
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  Speaker 3: so much violence. I see way more violence now than
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  Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my whole life. Way more murders
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  Speaker 3: and car accidents and animal attacks and I see Tom
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: Segura and I have this horrible text thread. We text
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  Speaker 3: each other the worst shit we find every day. We're
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  Speaker 3: trying to freak each other out. And we've been doing
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  Speaker 3: it for years. And so it's just my algorithm is fucked. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just fucked.
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  Speaker 1: There's certain sites, and I never promote the site just
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  Speaker 1: because it's just too gruesome. But there's one site I
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  Speaker 1: go to where you can do everything.
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  Speaker 3: There'd be headings.
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  Speaker 1: And I would look at this stuff before bed.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't enjoy seeing it, but I would look at
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  Speaker 1: it and it just gives you some kind of a weird,
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  Speaker 1: horrible feeling. But there's certain things I can't watch at
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  Speaker 1: this point. Like I can't watch people burning anymore. That's
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  Speaker 1: a rough way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: At one point, oh, burnings were all the rave. I
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  Speaker 1: can't watch them anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's all that. That's such a crazy thing
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  Speaker 3: to say. I can't watch people burning anymore. I'm just,
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  Speaker 3: I'm all burnt out.
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  Speaker 1: It bothered me. It was, it got to a point
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  Speaker 1: where I could, I can't see beheadings anymore. Like there
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: was a point where I could watch them and just,
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: almost watched detached, but now I just, it's too.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember the journalist? It was like. Daniel Pearl? Yeah. Yeah,
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: that's right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He was like the first, but the camera man panicked
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: and kind of came off him a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: so they didn't, it was kind of, they showed it,
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: but that was the first one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then that guy, they're called Jihad John, who was like,
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: cause he was British when they eventually caught him. I
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: forget the other people he did, but it was like
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: certain contractors and stuff. that they would put in those
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: orange jumpsuits to mimic Guantanamo, and they would... Just gruesome shit, man.
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  Speaker 1: Really gruesome shit.
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  Speaker 3: Gruesome shit.
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  Speaker 1: And it does fuck you up.
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  Speaker 3: 100%.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it does, but it fucks you up. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how it messes me up, but it
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  Speaker 1: definitely is not healthy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it makes you filled with anxiety, and just knowing
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  Speaker 3: that that exists and then seeing it are two very
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  Speaker 3: different things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, knowing it exists and seeing it. And then I'm
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: always like, well, I like watching... I can still watch
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: car accidents... Because it's tangible. Like a car accident is
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: a tangible thing. Like if you, if you're not careful
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: and you drive like an asshole, this is what happens
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  Speaker 1: to you.
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  Speaker 3: Or if someone's driving like an asshole, you're not paying attention.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: You got to be aware of everybody. Right.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: So I try not to text and drive anymore. I
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: remember one time I was doing a gig and I
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: was in full sex addict mode and fucking Sam Roberts. Uh,
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: he was still an intern, uh, at that point came
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: with me cause Kenny was busy. So Sam came to
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: help me sell merchandise. And I remember he was, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think I, did I let him, I drove, but
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: he was in the passenger seat and I was just
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: dirty talk texting the whole way home because I couldn't
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: text and drive because he was in the car. And
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't get fucking, I can't be
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: texting some woman and kill the intern. That would just
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: be a lawsuit waiting to happen. So it's like the
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: texting and driving thing I've kind of backed off of.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that's what Apple CarPlay is for, you know?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: You don't do that? Fuck, dude.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: The idea of, I did that one time. I connected
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: my phone. To a BMW X6. My girlfriend at the time,
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: my ex-girlfriend, came with me to the dealership. And the
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  Speaker 1: guy is telling me, oh, you should connect your phone.
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  Speaker 3: And I do.
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  Speaker 1: And my fucking phone, my phone book, my contact list
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  Speaker 1: comes up.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the girls, you know, I put where,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: how I knew her and it was like a domination fantasy.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: So that came up her name and domination fantasy came
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: up on that little window in the X six. And
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll never connect anything to my car again.
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  Speaker 1: There's just, just too much going on.
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  Speaker 3: Change the name.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, how much time do I have to go
• 10:15
  Speaker 1: back and change all the names?
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Just change the name to like personal trainer.
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: But that's another code word.
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: I got busted one time talking dirty. I was texting
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: dirty and the escort's name came up on my phone.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: And it was like one of those names that cannot
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  Speaker 1: be like a regular person.
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: So I ran.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: My girlfriend was fucking screaming at me in the car.
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: She's like, who the fuck is that?
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's fucking Anthony. I'm like, I have
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: a code word for Anthony in case I ever lose
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: my phone. So I had to run up into the bathroom.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: And just like my fingers were shaking and change it
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  Speaker 1: to Anthony. And I came in 15 minutes later. I'm like, see,
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: it's Anthony. But by then it was like, you blew.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: It, Jim. You got caught.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: So I don't connect anything. Even though I'm not fucking
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: anybody else, I still don't trust it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't connect anything to my car. Well, your phone
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: is listening anyway. Mine is for sure. I've come to
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: grips with the fact that everything that I text is
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: getting read. Probably. 100%. No questions. Through the ads. Including like...
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: Stuff that's on Signal. You know, Tucker told me that.
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: He said that they found his, the government knew that
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: he was going to meet Putin because they read a Signal.
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: And he's like, I didn't even know that that was possible. Yeah.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Is that the one that they got caught using in
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: the defense chat, the Signal?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: But that was because there was another guy in the
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: signal chat that I think someone let in the signal
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: chat on purpose.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: Was it on purpose or do you think it was
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: one of those things where you fuck up and you
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: just like, you know how you'll send something and a
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: predictive text name comes up and you just hit, like
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to text you and I accidentally J-O
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden it's Joe DeRosa comes up.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: And I just send him.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: I've done that before, but this was a giant group
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: of people that are in the defense department. How do
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: you include a reporter in that? That's a terrible mistake.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make any sense.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: My ex-publicist was bad-mouthing me to somebody, and she actually
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: sent it to me by mistake. What did she say
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: about you? It wasn't an overt. It was one of
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: those things where we weren't working together anymore. And I
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: was doing Neil Brennan's podcast. And like, you know, blocks
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: where you talk about all these things that blocked. And
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: she said something about like, oh, well, Norton's on three
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: blocks already.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: No shock.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: It was just, it was some comment that was not complimentary.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: And then it was like, oh, sorry, I meant that
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: for him. And I just kind of left it there.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I got it. I knew you didn't like me.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: That's why I left you. Your own publicists hate your guts.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: Publicists can be such a problem. They're so incompatible with
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: people that are wild people.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, because all they want to do is they have
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: to paint it in a way that's palatable to everybody. Like,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: I understand that it's a hard job and you have
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: some fucking asshole who's out trying to get laid.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: Especially like a guy like you or someone who says
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: wild things. You know, it's like that's part of the
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: fun of being you.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: Yes, but it also comes back and it it's here's
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: where it's negative. I do on YouTube. I have the
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: podcast and I'm trying to do podcast ads. I've never,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: you know, I never bought ads on YouTube before, but
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it doesn't buy you views. It just puts
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: it like where people will see it. And if they
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: like it, they click on it. Every one of my
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: ads gets shot down. They accused me of election advertising
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: in the United States.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: I put up an ad.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: And they said, this violates election advertising. And I didn't
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: even know how to respond to that.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: What was the ad?
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: It might have been, I had George Santos on, but
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: it was just a funny podcast.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: That guy's hilarious.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Dude, he was fucking, he told me how bad Jerry
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Nadler smelled. Because I asked him, who had the worst
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: breath in Congress? And he wouldn't answer, but he told
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: me the worst body odor was Jerry Nadler.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: It was just funny. He's a character.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: It's just amazing that he was a congressman.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: I have a real affection. You know how it is
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: when you meet somebody. They're always more human when you
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: meet them and it's harder to not like somebody. I
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: don't agree with Lauren Bobart, but I met her and
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: she couldn't have been nicer. I'm like, I can't dislike her.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: She was nice to me. So whenever you meet someone,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: and I had him over and he was great. He
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: was funny, a sense of humor about himself, and he
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: was shit-talking and catty. I was like, fuck, I love
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: this guy. But they accused me of election advertising. So
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: now so many times I've tried to put ads after
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: and they continually say it's either shocking content Or election advertising.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, they're just targeting you. They're just targeting me.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: And it's like, how are you supposed to advertise comedy
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: with some profanity in it if it's shocking content?
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: How is that election? I mean, he's not even running
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: for anything.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't a political rally podcast at all. It
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: was just us talking about what happened. And we chatted politics,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't push political views on people.
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: They've got you labeled right wing, which is kind of funny.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: It really is. It is so funny.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: And people don't know what to, like the conservatives, it's
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: so funny. People come see me from Gutfeld. So I
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: do Gutfeld a lot and his people will come see me.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: And it's just fun when I talk about my wife
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to watch the joy drain out of their faces.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: They find out it's a trans woman. Oh, we had
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: no idea.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: That's not the type of Tucker we like, buddy. They
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: get very, it's a very weird place to be. People
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: who like my humor don't necessarily like my personal life,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: and people who like my personal life don't necessarily like
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: my humor. It's a weird, I guess if nobody feels
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: like you're 100% in with them, they don't know what
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: to make of you.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Well you were saying that about Oliver Anthony, and that
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of, that he was getting in trouble
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: apparently right after Richmond, North of Richmond came out, that
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: people were saying he wasn't really conservative.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were giving him shit about saying like, oh,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: he's not who we thought he was. Meanwhile, he writes
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: this great song and people love it. And they look
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: at his art and they love his art. But because
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: he feels a little bit differently, a lot of people
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: turned on him. And it was like, what are you
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: giving shit?
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even aware of that at all.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. Do you know what the subject was?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if he had said something after it
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: or if they went back and found out things he
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: had said prior that they felt like his politics didn't
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: line up. It's almost like when they got mad about
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: fucking Dylan Mulvaney. Needing to connect to the belief system
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: of somebody who drinks the same beverage is just such
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: fucking psychotic thinking. Then again, I've drank piss, so I
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: don't expect a whole lot of people to line up
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: politically and rally behind me with fucking yellow flags.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: I just don't care. I don't give a fuck.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I don't care who believes it or like, I don't
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: care like what the, I mean, I'm a fucking Sabbath fan.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I don't give a shit who those guys vote for.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: It's so. So stupid. Inconsequential to me. Well, it's just
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: a symptom of this bizarrely disconnected society where everybody's so separated.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: And you got it.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: It's got to be driving you crazy or maybe you
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: detach from it because you see things. I mean, I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: know you. So I'll see them say like, he's this
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: right way. And I'm like, you guys don't really know Joe.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's, they don't.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: To see yourself painted in such a way has got
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to be at one point frustrating and then you have
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: to just let it go, right?
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to let it go. But when I,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, the most frustrating thing was seeing it on CNN.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so this thing that I thought
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: was the news forever, now I know you're not accurate
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: at all because you're attacking me and you're painting me
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: in this very bizarre light because it's convenient for you.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: There is a weird thing.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And maybe this is again, cause I'm in my fifties
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and I remember like thinking the news was real and accurate.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Cause I remember Walter Cronkite and all that shit. And it's,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's this constant sense of disappointment. Like, fuck, like they're
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: really not what I, like, I'm still an idiot who
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: believes in like the adults and they're going to do
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the right thing.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And it just constantly is a confirmation that, yeah, they are.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: They're liars. They're fucking biased liars. Yeah. And they're paid
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: to lie. They're just propagandists. That's what the news, the
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: mainstream news is. I mean, there's real news now.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: You can get the real news from Glenn Greenwald. You
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: can get the real news from Matt Taibbi. There's a
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: few people out there that'll give you unbiased news. But
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it's so funny, like even them, you know, when they
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: will highlight a very particular thing that maybe Trump did
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: or someone did on the right, and everybody attacks them.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: It's like, do you want them to lie?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Just because you want your team to be infallible? Like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: what do you want?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And Glenn Greenwald, I had never heard of him. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: don't really follow a lot of, like, what people are saying.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't watch debates. But I obviously heard about him
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: when that video came out, and I saw, and I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: loved how he handled that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he handled it great.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Privacy invasions are so fucking disgusting.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: They're disgusting when they're done to anybody. I don't care
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: how much you hate the guy's guts. But I was like,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who this guy is, but I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: like how he addressed that. Yeah, it's my private life
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and tough shit. I like that he handled that. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: thought very, very, he took it head on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Well, John Ronson talked about that in his book, You've
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Been Publicly Shamed. If you're not ashamed, then it doesn't work.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: And that's the reality of it. And Glenn handled it perfectly.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: He's not ashamed.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you can't let them see you're ashamed, because
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I wake up just dipped in it. I fucking, the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: first thing I think of.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Good morning, shame. But that's, you're open about it, though.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. It's like they can't really
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: attack you for something you're attacking yourself for.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, and if you tell them, like I did something,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: it's so, I watched, my special premiered, and I went
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: into YouTube and I watched it with people as they
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: were watching, and just commenting and talking, and this Horrible
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: feeling of shame even when people are being nice. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: can't get away from how embarrassed I am At like
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: it's almost like what people see you doing something you're
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like Oh Jimmy's trying look at little G And I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was typing back and everything but it was it's so
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: anti what feels good for me to do even when
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: people are being nice I find it horrifying and humiliating.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know where that comes from, but I kind
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: of wish I didn't have it.
• 19:50
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  Speaker 3: for plan features and network management details. Well, I think
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  Speaker 3: everybody hates watching themselves. First of all, because when I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: watch a comic, I want to watch a comic doing
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: material either that I know and I want to see again.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: You know, like if I'm watching Shane and he's doing
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: his bit on the Navy SEALs. I want to see
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: it again. Or I want– I just want to see it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I want to just– I've never seen it develop. I
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: want to see the thing. But when you're doing it,
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you're aware of everything. You're aware of all the edits
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: you've made. You're aware of all the different ways you've
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: done it. You're aware of when you're trying to sell
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: it a little too much and you're not in the moment. Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: There's all the grossness that you see that other people
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: aren't going to see where you're like, ew. I hate
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: watching myself.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, it was so hard. It was so hard not
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to just attack myself in the chat. All I wanted
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: to do was watch it and go, this fucking boo.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Sucks.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Nice blinking 56-year-old. But I didn't do it. I'm like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: don't be a fucking. I think it was Jay Oakerson
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was doing something. He did a special and he shot
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it at Skank Fest one year. And I think Lewis
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: took him out and they were looking at the stage before.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: And I was one of those guys, like, you know,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Jay is just like, oh, he's a fucking, oh, fuck it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I think Lewis goes, you know, sometimes I know we're
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like that, but you just got to enjoy it. Like once,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and I thought of that, I'm like, sometimes just enjoy
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: things are going okay.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You're happy with what you did. I love the special.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I love the material.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Don't put yourself in a position where you're like, you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: fucking suck. Like it doesn't have to be that way.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Just put it out there and walk away from it.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Leave it alone. Let people decide what they decide.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: And if you don't like it, you just work on
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: the next one and make sure that you don't make
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the same mistakes twice. Yeah. That's it. That's all you
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: can do.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But I spend a lot of time, like I wouldn't,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever loved anything as I put
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it out. This I like more, but the older you get,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the better you get. So it's like a little.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Easier now than it was. Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: The first Tonight Show I did was 2004. And I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: was out in LA and there was my buddy Joey Silvera,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: who worked for Evil Angel and would film a lot
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: of the greatest porn. Joey was a fucking, you'd recognize
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: him if you saw him. He was in old movies.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: So I went to his house to watch my first
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Tonight Show with another guy, this other guy, Brandon Iron.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And I went into the basement while they watched it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it in front of other people.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's hilarious.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And it's not to be because I think I'm an artist.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: It's just humiliating.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: It's fucking embarrassing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like people are like, are you going
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to laugh?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: People to feel pressure to laugh because I'm around.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It's weird. It's weird watching yourself. Some guys can do it, though. Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: they're psychos. They are fucking psychopaths. They're probably not healthy. Oh,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: my God, dude.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Do you know what mental illness you need to sit
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: someone down next to you when you're special playing?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: How about people that want you to watch their thing
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and they want to sit there with you? Like, hey,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: watch this. And you're like, I don't know.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It puts you in a weird... If I do an
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: acting role, I don't love acting, which is great because
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: nobody loves when I do it. It works out nicely.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: But if I do something I like, I have to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: see it first, and I have to watch it and go, okay,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not embarrassed by this.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I can go and watch it in a premiere. You
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But I have to see it first to know if
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to feel humiliated. The Irishman I didn't see first. Obviously,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Scorsese's not going to send me a fucking cut. And
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't know I made it until literally the night before.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But that was different because I'm like, I don't care how, whatever.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: It was just, it was a stand-up performance.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. A little bit easier than acting. It's humiliating. Yeah,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: it's gross. I don't like any of it. I've been
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: in a couple movies. I've refused to go to the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: red carpet. I sneak in through the back. They were like,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I want you to walk the red carpet. I'm like, nope.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Is it because you don't, because everyone would talk to you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid no one's going to talk to me on
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the red carpet.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Do you know how.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Embarrassing it is when you hear that person who walks
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you through in the front and you're standing there ready
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: for your moment and you hear them going, oh, Jim Norton.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And then you'll hear a second and then she goes,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Jim Norton, he's a comedian. And it's like, oh, fuck,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: they have no idea who I am.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: It's just humiliating. So I don't like doing it, man.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: But I'll do it. I just don't like the attention.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I don't like standing there where they take pictures, just
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: standing there. looking around look at me joe look.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: At me look at me look at me over here
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: over here some people love it actresses love it they
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: pose they like give you their good side yeah yeah
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: give you a little bit of practice in the mirror but.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I almost understand that i have more tolerance for actors
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: who love it because even though they're as big of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: you know attention idiots as we are they don't get
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the constant feedback. Like for them, it's their night of feedback.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Whereas with us, we're like, I mean, I've been on
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a run for like four nights. Before I came here
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: actually at the cell, I had four like shit nights
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in a row. Just, all the material I'm doing now
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is new. So it's like, I'm trying this. And you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: it just feels like you're Frankensteining it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: It's not there yet.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But I know I'm going to have another night and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: another night. And that comes and goes quickly. But actors,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: they have like one night to stand there and smile.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And then they just get attacked. In the fucking, in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the comments or in the reviews. So I'm a little
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: more tolerant of them than comedians. Because comedians who love that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: it's like, how much fucking.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Attention do you need, dude? Yeah, yeah. You constantly get feedback. Yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you should be shying away from feedback. Too much feedback
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: is bad for you. I really believe that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And I stopped reading Twitter comments. occasionally I'll do it now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just to say I wasn't reading them.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: It was because even positive feedback, I'm like, you needy fuck.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: How many taps on the shoulder do you need? How
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: many like, good job, Jim, or you suck. How much
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: interaction from people do you need? It's not normal.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It's not healthy. I stopped reading almost everything, even stuff
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that's not me. And I stopped a couple of weeks ago.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I just stopped going on social media. I will occasionally,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: if someone sends me something funny, I'll watch it. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: then I get off my phone right away. And I
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: think my new phone number that I'm going to get,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have any social media. I'm just
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: going to keep my old phone number and only use
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: that for social media. I just don't think it's good
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: for you. It's not.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: And although there's times like my algorithm, I'm obsessed with,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I think we talked about just Japanese hornets and a
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: lot of MMA. Like my algorithm is healthier now.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Than it would be.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: There's still a few things that will pop up that,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you know, show what I've been looking at. Like if
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: my wife is next to me, she'll see what I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: looking at. I'm like, oh, no, it's just, you know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: You know how it is.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: You go down the rabbit hole, you probably shouldn't go down.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: But it's not as unhealthy as it would have been
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: at one point. Like a lot of it is just
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: MMA stuff and animals and nice shit.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I get a lot of that. A lot of
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: it is people getting knocked out. You like the knocked out?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I like watching jujitsu tips because then I'll bring them
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in and ask the guy to show me, like, how
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: do you, is it possible to do this? And he'll
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: kind of show me and I'll just forget it. But
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it's fun.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a lot of that too. But it's just,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I just think it's a giant waste of time. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: it's also your brain needs time to just think. And
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: you need time to just be in your own head
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: and think about your own thoughts and try to formulate
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: them properly. Really, like, get an understanding. Like, why do
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: I think this way? What is it about this that
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I've decided is correct?
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: And roll it around. And when you're constantly looking at
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: other people's thoughts, I just don't think it gives you
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: much time for that. That's exactly it. Why do I
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: think what I think? Yeah.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Hitchens did a great speech. It was in Toronto about
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: free speech. And one of the things he was talking
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: about is when somebody says something that you don't agree with.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: I think the example he gave was Holocaust denial.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: He goes, you have to protect that person's speech because
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, it makes you examine, okay, well, how
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: do I know what I know? How do I know
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: other than someone told me? Like you have to kind
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: of examine how you come to your own conclusions. And
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I do that a lot. Like in the shower, I'll
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: just kind of stand there. It's really like we all
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: have a weird showering method. I just kind of stand
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: there with my hands like this. It's bizarre.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It's like womb-like.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And I just stand there and I think or I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: go through arguments or I go through conversations or debates.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And that's the one time I really get to think
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: during the day where I don't let anything else interfere.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: But being off social media is probably a lot healthier. Just, again,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: it's other people's thoughts.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I don't care what people think. I don't know why
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I read it. Well, I care what people think, but
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I don't care enough to have that interview. intervene and
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: invade my thoughts all day long. I mean, I'm fascinated
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: by people, but I like to talk to them for real,
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: for real like this. This is like, you know, because
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's also having a podcast and having what
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: I think is the best way to communicate with people
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and to be able to be so lucky to be
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: able to do it all the time. I think I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: get plenty of other people's input. Right.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: And you get the real opinions and you get to,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you sense up in a room with a person. Again, it's, it's,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: it's harder to, to dislike or to caricature somebody when
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you've met them and when you've actually sat with them.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's like, nah, I know this person. I kind of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: felt their energy and it's like, they're just a regular person.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It's easy when you look at somebody to hate their guts. Um,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and I've bashed a few people. It was always so embarrassing.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We would do Jocktober and, uh, you know, ONA never
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: went into other people's studios, but I would, and I'd
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: be on the road. And it was the fucking, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: was in Boston with Kenny one time. He's like, Uh,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: they're having you in, but you jocktobered them. And I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, so I went in and, uh, you know, you, you,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you just go there like, yeah, you really, uh, and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, man, it was just something we do,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: but you have, you face it and you realize, yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: they're nice guys. It was just, yeah, it's a dumb
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: radio show.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I had fun.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And I've actually become friendly with a couple of guys
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: who we used to attack. But you only get that
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: through meeting somebody and actually talking to them one-on-one.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: The worst is when you meet someone and you have
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: a conversation with them and you're cool. You think, oh,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: we're good. And then they'll go and talk shit about
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: you somewhere else and completely mischaracterize you. Have you had that? Oh, yeah. Yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I've had that. Yeah, that's embarrassing. That's sad. It feels bad. Well,
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: it's just like, okay, well, I'll never talk to you
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: again because I know that you do this now.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And but it's also it's like, why are you
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: doing that? Generally, it's when I had a conversation with
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: them and it didn't go well for them. Right. So
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: then they just harbor that thing and then they just
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: fucking stew it in their head and then they just
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: mischaracterize you and try to. twist you around because they're
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: trying to win this argument they already lost. Yes. You know,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it's like, you know, when you get in an argument
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: and you didn't have anything to say and then you're
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: in the shower, you're like, ah, I should have said this.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I should have said that. They're just doing that and
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: they're just going and doing that on another podcast. Yes.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Relitigating what the jury has already come in on.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And it's human instinct to do. I also think sometimes
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: people do it And they don't think you're going to
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: see it. Like, especially when you're, you know, you've such
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a high level of like recognition that if somebody, they're
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: probably like, I'll never see this. And I can just,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and then you see it and they're probably like, oh,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that. But I've read things that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: hurt my feelings.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why would you say that?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I was nice to you.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's weird. It's like, you know, humans
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: are so strange. We're so strange in our weird little
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: quirks and the way we communicate with each other. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: what is truth? What's real? Who are you? You know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: who are you? You're different every day. Yeah. You're different
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: depending on how your day went. You know, your reaction
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to something. I remember one time this guy wasn't paying attention.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Traffic was stopped and he rear-ended me. And he didn't
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: have a license. He's from Mexico. But I had been
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: doing yoga like every day. And I was like, you okay?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm like, all right, man.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And I go, why don't you have a license? He's like,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I can't get a license. I go, well, so why
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: are you driving? He's like, I got to work. I go,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: all right. I get it. I wasn't mad at him.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: But it was because I was doing yoga, like, every day.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: We were doing this hot yoga challenge, Ari and Tom
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and Bert and I.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I remember that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: We were doing it, like, I was doing yoga, like,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: every day. So I was so calm. I was like, okay, well,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: take care of yourself. I'm going to get out of here.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Because his car was fucked. My car was fucked, but
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: it was drivable. Yeah. It was a Porsche. Like, it
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: was a really nice car. And he had, like, this
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: fucking shitty Honda. But, you know, the way he broke, like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: when you brake, you're... Front end dives down. So he
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: kind of got under my car and lifted my car
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: up a little bit and caved in my back bumper
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a little bit. But they just replaced the bar and
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: the engine wasn't fucked and my exhaust was dented a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: little bit. His car was fucked. He couldn't drive. So
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: he got to be there when the cops came and
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: he couldn't drive away. Right. And I was like, I
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: don't know what to tell him. I'm going to get
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: out of here. Oh, you just left. Yeah. I was like,
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: he doesn't have any money. Like, I'm going to pay
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: for this. Yes. And I'm like, this is going to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: hurt me. I have the money to fix it. So,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: all right. Take care, man. Glad you're okay.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Being zen like that, like, because it reminds me of,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I was leaving the Lincoln, the Holland Tunnel with Karen Feehan.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: We were doing a gig in Jersey.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: And it was bumper to bumper. And I came, you know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it was like that merge where you think you're never
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: going to get out of it. And a guy stopped
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and he goes, you hit my car. And I'm like,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I know I didn't hit his car. But he made us,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: it was bumper to bumper. I'm like, let's just talk
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the tunnel. Like, let's get
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: out of this fuck because I was going to be
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: late for the gig. And he goes, no, we're going
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: to pull over and wait for the police. So I'm like, oh,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this piece of shit is trying to shake me down.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: So we wound up, one of those awful traffic women
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: was there. You know, the people that just, they work
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: for the city and they dress like cops, but they're
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not cops. But if you assault one of them, it's
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: like a big deal. So we pulled over and I said,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: is it okay if we just trade licenses? And she went, yeah,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: just trade licenses. which I think kind of shamed him
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: into letting us move on, otherwise he was gonna have
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: me fucking held up there or pay.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Him on that. So you didn't hit his car at all?
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Karen said I didn't.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It was a merge, and if I did, it was
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: a one mile an hour bump, but there was no
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: mark on his car at all. I think the whole
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: thing was a scam, because we traded licenses and I
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: never heard from the guy.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: You ever seen that thing where people get in front
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: of people's cars and slam on the brakes?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: It's, I've seen it, and it's terrible, and the best
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: is when you have a dash cam, and then you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: see them, they recognize the dash cam, and then they
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: just scurry back into their cars.
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  Speaker 3: was in New Jersey. where these people, they tried it
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't work, then they threw it in reverse
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: and backed up fast and slammed into this guy's car,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: or this lady's car. But she had a dash cam
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the entire time. And she's on the phone, oh my God,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: these people just backed up into me. And then they
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: got out of the car and they're like, what did
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: you do, what did you do? And then they saw
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: the dash cam and they're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, I've
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: seen that.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm referring to, where they scurry
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: back into the car and take off.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: When I saw, like, I'm so cynical about, Like people
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: in Philly, you gotta let people in Philly, like if
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a bus hits something, there's like locals that will just
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: run up and just lay next to the bus like
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: they were in the fucking accident. Which is, I get it,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But they forget that there's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: cameras everywhere and they can just see you walking out.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: But this Air India plane crash, my first thought was
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: that this guy, they said survived.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, he's bullshitting. He didn't.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He's faking it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: But he did survive.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he said his brother was on the plane
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: 11A, seat 11A.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And by the way, to all the people... who are
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: going to now look for 11A, stop.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, stop.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: If anything else, that's the last seat you should take.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Usually it's the back where you're best off.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if the plane broke open and he
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: just got... There's a woman who was a... I think
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: she was a teenager when it happened. It was called
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the woman who... The girl who fell from the sky.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And she had apparently.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: They were like two miles up and the plane blew up, whatever,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and it came apart and she fell two miles.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Somehow survived. She hit a barn, right? Didn't she go
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: through the roof of a barn or something like that? No,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: she fell into the.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: What do they call the fucking, the Brazil rainforest?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, the Amazon?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: The Amazon. She fell into the Amazon, was gone for
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: 10 days.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Apparently, again, unless I was bullshit, they said she found
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: an old boat with gas and she had to pour
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that on one of her wounds to kill the maggots.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And then she finally did get out and get rescued.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And- Look at this. 17-year-old girl miraculously survived falling 10,000
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: feet from a plane, then surviving 11 days. Isn't 10,000 feet,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: isn't that two miles? No, what's a mile? Yeah, it's
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: about two miles. Two miles? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Can you
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: imagine falling two miles from a plane? She survived 11
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: days alone in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest. After the plane,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: she was struck by lightning.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Jesus, I didn't read that part.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: The plane was struck by lightning and disintegrated in the air.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Still strapped to her seat, fell from the sky and survived.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Holy shit, man. What did she hit, though? Did she hit, like,
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: a mountain and slide?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Like, how do you... The impact, though, I don't know
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: how you survived that impact.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. She had a broken collarbone and a
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: torn knee ligament. That's it. Wow. After the crash, she
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: spent 11 days alone in the jungle before being rescued.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: She found a lumberjack camp. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: She became a respected scientist, specializing in mammology and focusing
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: on bats. Wouldn't it be funny if she was the
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: lady who released COVID?
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Because her memory's no good anymore after the plane crash?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Here, drink this. She specialized on bats and she got
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: a job in Wuhan. She had no idea. She had
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: no idea.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: She's like, be free. Bit some guy selling fish on
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: the corner and he went and fucked somebody. But there
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: was another one too. There was a flight attendant. And again,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: who I think was trapped. the front of the plane fell,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: and I think that she was almost from 30,000 feet.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, it hit a mountain, it
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was almost like she hit it on the right angle
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and slid.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, there it is. Highest fall without a parachute in history. 33,000-foot
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: plunge after a plane explosion in 72. She was the
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: only survivor. Crashed into the mountains of Czechoslovakia after a
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: suspected bomb detonated. Jeez.
• 39:37
  Speaker 7: What about the lady who felt her parachute didn't open
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: and she landed on a pile of ants, fire ants,
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: and the fire ants kept her alive?
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Right, right. Shocked her body.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Somehow or another, the fire ants, the shock of
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: the sting of fire ants kept her alive.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: What, did it slow her heart down or something or
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: stop it from?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: No. What?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: The odds of falling into a fire ant pile?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It's usually a bad thing to land in a mound
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: of fire ants at 80 miles an hour, but not
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: if you're Joan Murphy. Oh, Joan Murray. 14,000 feet right
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: into a fucking pile. 50% chance of surviving a fall
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: of 48 feet. Yeah. Which is a four-story building. Mortality
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: rate rushes all the way up to 90%. when you
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: fall 84 feet, the distance of a seven-story building. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: if you're falling from a whopping 14,500 feet, just over
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: two and a half miles, you safely bet you're almost
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: definitely not going to get out alive. One woman did.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: So she fell. A backup parachute opened at 700 feet,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: quickly deflated. She continued to plummet towards the ground at
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: 80 miles an hour. She survived. There it goes. She
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: survived thanks to the fact that she landed Directly on
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: a mound of fire ants, doctors believe the intense shock
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: of being stung over 200 times by the ants released
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: a surge of adrenaline that kept her heart beating. Whoa.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: By the way, does that prove to you how little
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I know about the human body? My instinct said that, oh,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: your heart slows down. Like, I thought, like, oh, maybe
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: it would slow your heart down when they bit you,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and it does just the opposite. I thought, like, maybe
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: it slows your beat down like being frozen.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I bet that's just a wild guess as to why
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: it kept her alive, because if she was putty... You know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: there's no way it would have kept her alive. Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe it stopped her heart from, maybe they got to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: her right after too.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: You know, who knows?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You've watched that guy who fucking lets things bite him
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: in the woods, Coyote something.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Coyote Peterson.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: He's a psychopath, but his stuff is very entertaining. But
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's the bullet ant. The bullet ant or
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the Japanese hornet was the worst.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: The bullet ant's supposed to be the worst. The bullet
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: ant's supposed to be like 24 hours of intense pain. Yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: my friend Steve got bit by.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: One of those.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: On purpose or no?
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: No, he was in the Amazon. He got bit on
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: his foot.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And was it as bad as he said?
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: He said for hours it was just impossible. The pain
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: was just impossible. And then it slowly dissipated to like
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: kind of manageable.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Is that the one where they put in the gloves?
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: You see that one, the tribe where they do that
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: and their hands are like blackened by bites?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Didn't Steve-O do that?
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Did he?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he did that. Yeah, he put the gloves on.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: How long did he last? Well, once you get bit,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: it's a 24-hour experience.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very squeamish. Insects, it's funny. I've never gotten
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: over this insect. I think I saw a kid. There
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was a brother and sister when I.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Was a kid.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: We were all the same age. I think she was
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a year older than me and him were. And they
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: were such a bizarre little friendship because they used to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: pee their pants. And I would ask them to sit
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: on my face with their pants. It was a really bizarre.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. Yeah, I know.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: It was a lovely childhood in good old Edison. Good
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: old Edison, New Jersey.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: But I saw him get stung by yellow jackets.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, what is that? That's the worst thing?
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: Executioner wasp.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: But Coyote Peterson said it was worse than a bullet ant.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Watching a guy run with bees on his arms and screaming,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I think that scarred me for the rest of my
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: life with insects. We used to break up bees' nests,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and I'll never forget the sight of this kid running
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: with just three yellow jackets on his arm. And that
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: stuck with.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Me for, I guess, forever.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: 49 years now 50 years it bothers me I just
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: can't they weird insects have a very weird effect on
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: people like to be so skeeved out by something it's
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: like rats instead of like small bunnies don't bother you
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: but rats do maybe it's in the DNA or something
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: where it's supposed to bother.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: You I think so for sure I think that's what
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: aphidiophobia and arachnophobia comes from you know I bet someone
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: in your DNA someone down the line was either killed
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: by a spider or like really badly hurt by a
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: spider and And it's just in your DNA to be
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: absolutely terrified when you see a spider. What's a, what's a, uh,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: phidiophobia is snakes.
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Some people just, they have it so bad. Like they
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: see snakes and they just fucking start panic and they go,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: they have a panic attack and they just can't handle it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Where the other people are, I'm scared of snakes for sure, but,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: but I can look at them, you know, they don't
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: freak me out. Can you hold them? Yeah. Yeah. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: can hold them, but I, you know, obviously I don't
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: want to be around them. They're, they're fucking serpents. They're
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: literally in the Bible. Yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bible does frown. The snake had a bad
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: rap in.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: The fucking Bible. It's fucking Satan. Satan comes in the
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: form of a certain. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I can hold one if I know it's not going to. Again,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I have a healthy fear. If I know it's a
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: boa constrictor, like that guy in the Greenwich Village who
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: walks around with a giant yellow one, which kind of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: creeps me because if it was to really attack someone,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you'd have to kill it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's a large boa constrictor.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: There's not much you can do once it's around your neck.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: You need help. You know, they're very strong. I mean,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: they crush deer and swallow them whole. They do. Yeah.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be a real special kind of
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: fucking idiot to have one of those things as a pet.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Because you just have a monster as a pet. As
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: long as you feed that monster. But if you leave...
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: a baby in a room with a python. You come
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: back a half an hour later, you're going to have
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: a fat python and no baby.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and a nice quiet night's sleep.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: They don't give a fuck. That's what they're there for.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Nature has designed them to kill everything they can. I can't.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Annie Letterman has a lot of snakes. She has them
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: as pets, and her fiance has them. They have a
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: room full of fucking snakes.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: And I don't get it. I'm like, they're not warm.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: They don't have any recognition of you.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: They're interesting, I guess.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I guess, but we have a puppy, and I've never
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: owned a dog before. And it's nice to have. I
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: don't like taking care of anything. I don't have that
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: instinct in me. I just don't like it. But this
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: dog kind of, I get why people like having a dog.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I get it. Oh, I love dogs. If my wife
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: only lets me have one, I have one dog. But
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: if it was up to me, at one point in time,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I had five dogs. You did? Yeah. Does he shit
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: in the house? No.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Mine does a lot.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, he does if he eats things that are bad.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: He gets diarrhea, and he gets diarrhea at least a
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: couple times a year. Oh, he does? Yeah, he's a dumbass.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: He's a golden retriever. He's not that smart. Like, he
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: ate a turtle recently, and he got horrible diarrhea, shit
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: all over the place. Little pieces of shell stuck in
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: his stomach. He had to go to the hospital. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: It was a nightmare. And he also ate gravel at
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: one point. He ate five pounds of gravel because someone
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: accidentally dropped some chicken food on the gravel, and he
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: just assumed that the gravel was food, so he ate
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: all the gravel.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: It is crazy how nothing registers halfway through the gravel pile.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: He's just a dumbass.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Doesn't taste like chicken. He's a dumbass, but I fucking
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: love dogs, man. I wish I could have, I can't
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: go to a pound. I can't go. If I go
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: to a dog, I'll bring them all home. I'll just like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: I'll take them all. If I had a giant piece
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: of land, I would probably just have all, every dog
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I could ever get.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: We went to North Shore Animal Rescue. Actually, Beth Stern
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: helped me. I don't know her well.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: I met her through Whitney.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: But she's huge there and has great connections and helped
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: us get a very nice little, what is.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It, a fucking Yorkie. We were so stupid. I thought
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: it was a Cavapoo.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what the fucking kind of dog was.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: What's a Cavapoo?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It's like one of those things where It's like a
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: bread dog. It's a cavalier and a poodle, I think,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: but it's hypoallergenic. I can't have dog hair.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, look at that. I mean, come on. Is that
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: not phenomenal? Come on. Look at the little bow. That
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: used to be a wolf. That's how fucking creepy people are.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: They turned a wolf into that thing.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: That little adorable, no shedding thing.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Look at that little face.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Aw.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: He's very cute, but that's what we thought we were getting.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't know, because a Yorkie looks a lot like
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: that when it's young. I mean, it was like this
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: big when we took it home.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I love it. My dog photographs like shit, though.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I never put up pictures of my dog.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart but he looks like a fucking wig
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: and a hamper just sucks I can't humiliate an ugly
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: fucking dog I have in pictures but in person he's great.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: But I just I never post pictures it's.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Not cute put a filter on him nothing's gonna help
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: he's just kind of sitting there he looks like he's
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: fucking like homeless like some homeless guy's dog but I
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: do I love having him but the shitting in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: house is very difficult aww I think that's when I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: first got.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Him aww but you see he looks a little like
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: a cavapoo that's adorable dog.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Then he was But as he's gotten older and his
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: hair's gotten longer.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: He's gotten shitty looking? In person, no.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: But he photographs fucking terribly.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Let me see a picture. Let me see a bad
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: picture of your dog. Let me see if I have.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: On my Instagram, I think I put up a video
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: recently and the screen grab, I tried to find the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: cutest screen grab and I just couldn't.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: So let me see here. Maybe it's just you. Maybe
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: if I saw him, I'd think he's adorable.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I can guarantee you're going to go like, he might
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: be great in person.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: But I would never.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I would never.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Classify this as a cute dog. Hold on. It's not
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: opening because of... But I'll find it. Oh, there's no
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: cell phone signal in here. Is that on purpose? No,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: it's just the walls are thick. Do you guys have
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Wi-Fi or no? Yeah, I can't find it. Forget it.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: It's okay. I get it. Oh, wait. Is that it?
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: That's actually not that bad. Oh, that's cute. Come on.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: That's actually a very nice one. Look at the little
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: blue bow. Yeah, somebody in the house really mowed him up.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: That wasn't my fucking.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: That's a cute little dog.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a nice picture, but typically photographs very poorly.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: But he won't stop shitting in the house.
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: Oh, no.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: Well, you live in an apartment? We live in an apartment.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: That's part of the problem.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: We put him on the terrace.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Go out there with him and she walks him. I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: won't walk him It's like it's your dog. I don't
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: want to I don't you know, I mean like I'm
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: not again. I don't have that instinct I'm happy you
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have him and you love him but He just won't
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: stop shitting in the house, I don't know what to
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: do I'm getting to a point where like I like
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: this is why I didn't want a fucking dog Yeah,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I can't handle dog shit in my house.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: It's kind of gross. I Yeah, it's pretty gross.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I heard that, I'm debating, do I pay for a trainer?
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Do I pay for someone to come in and just...
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: They might not be able to. It might be one
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: of them broken little fucking tiny dogs. You just can't
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: stop shitting in your house.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I don't know, though. I've never had one of those
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: kind of dogs. In New York, it helps. A small little.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not qualified to own a big one.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know how people own Mastiffs. In New York City,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that's crazy.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: You can't. And you can't get insurance for them.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: That's what made me, like, if you have a Doberman
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: or a Rottweiler or a Pit, you can't get insurance,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: homeowner's insurance. So if somebody gets bit, you're fucked.
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what scared me.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: About those dogs. German Shepherd. Yeah, especially German Shepherds. Well, also, like,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: those dogs need a lot of exercise. They need a
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: lot of activity or they get anxious.
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: And they get kind of crazy because they're not supposed
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: to be penned in like that. They're working dogs. Right.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: They're supposed to be out there running around. And if
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you don't run them, if you don't exercise them every day,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: they get like people do when they don't exercise every day.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: They get kooky.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I became a little obsessed with those Caucasian shepherds.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Like I want to pet one of those
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: things or those. That's a big giant fucking thing. It
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: comes up.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: It goes up like 200 pounds. Yeah, it's fucking hairy.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: It's a disaster.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a werewolf. It's a monster. Yeah.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: But something like that I would love to spend a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: moment with or. Go someplace and play with it, but
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I just, you know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Look at that thing. Jeez.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Slobbering over your fucking sofa.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: 220 pounds. Jeez.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: Shitting.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Well, they use those things to keep wolves away from sheep.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And Russian prisons, I think. I've seen footage of Russian
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: prisons where they have them around the perimeter. There's a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: fence in between freedom and the jail, and they kind
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: of keep them in there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: I wonder what their temperament is like. They're aggressive.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: They're aggressive. That's what I've heard.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: They're very aggressive. Are they bad with people? Strong, powerful, alert, quick, dominant, calm.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: What?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Somebody just threw adjectives up there.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: How'd they throw calm in there? Steady, strong, independent, faithful, self-assured, calm.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: That's weird.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: You ever see those, what are they called?
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Dogo? Yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: They look like giant pit bulls. They're gorgeous dogs, but again.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: They're- Hyper aggressive. They are aggressive, right? Oh, yeah.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Great guard dogs, hyper aggressive. They will fuck you up.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: I think those were the dogs that Ving Rhames had
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: when someone, he killed someone working at his house. Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: When he was Ving Rhames or before?
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Ving Rhames. I think
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: something happened and someone, maybe they were there where they're
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: not supposed to be there or something happened and someone,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I think it was someone working for him got killed
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: by his dog.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Was he, is it him or Charles Dutton who did
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: time in jail for murder?
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I think it was murder.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get sued, but I think it
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: was Charles Dutton or him that actually before they were
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: actors went to jail. I just don't remember if it
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: was Ving Rhames or Charles Dutton.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: He was one of those guys that had a really
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: interesting backstory. I'm wondering if that happened.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Let's find out with Ving Rhames' dog first. Then we'll Google,
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: did Charles Dutton murder somebody? I think it might have
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: been Dutton.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I think you're right. This is the funny thing to Google.
• 52:46
  Speaker 7: The coroner said that he did not die from, in
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: the Ving Rhames case, he did not die from dog bites.
• 52:52
  Speaker 7: They were waiting for a toxicology report.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe he had a stroke and then the dog bit him.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Sometimes that happens. If someone has a seizure- Dogs will
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: bite them. Like, dogs don't know what the fuck is
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: going on. They freak out and they bite them. When
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: animals attack humans or other animals, victims usually end up
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: with bites around the head and neck. He had none.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: This leads us to believe he went down for some
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: other medical reason. Oh, that makes sense. So the bites
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: were around his arms and his legs. So, yeah, the
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: dog might have bull mastiffs. English bulldog and three bull mastiffs.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: 200 pounds.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Jeez, 200 pounds.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: You wonder if they were trying to wake him up
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: or trying to pull him somewhere or if they were attacking.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Because you're right, if they don't bite the face, what's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the purpose.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Of what would they do? Yeah, I bet it wasn't.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: I bet that's what it was. Sometimes that does happen
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: when dogs will freak out if someone has a seizure. Right.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: They don't know what the hell's going on. They, like,
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: bite the person. Yeah, like, what's he doing? They're freaking out.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: You know, probably not even bite him to try to
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: hurt him, just to try to stop whatever's happening because
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: it's freaking him out.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Well, there was speculation after Siegfried and Roy, when Roy
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: got dragged off. I don't know what's true or not.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Did the thing bite his head or was it actually
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: trying to save him?
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Take him away. Yeah. I don't know what. Yeah, there
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: was like a lady that had a crazy hat or
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: something like that. And the tiger was kind of weirded
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: out by this lady's hat. Is that what it was?
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: So I remember. But I just remember thinking, duh, like
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: the tiger just did what tigers do.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: Decided I don't like this anymore. Are they both dead?
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to bite you. I don't know. I
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: know Roy Horn died, I think.
• 54:23
  Speaker 7: I just saw they're making an Apple TV series about him.
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: Eight episode series. Andrew Garfield and someone else are playing.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Did you ever see the HBO thing on Liberace? Is
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: that where, with Tom Papa was in it? Beyond the
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: Candle Opera. Well, it was Matt Damon and, what the
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: fuck is his name?
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Who played Scott Thorson.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: The guy, Greed is Good, you know, that guy. Michael Douglas?
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Michael Douglas, yeah. Michael Douglas played Liberace, I believe, right?
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Didn't he? Did he? Yeah. I didn't remember that. Yeah,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: it was Michael Douglas and Matt Damon.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, he played Scott Thorson in Matt Damon.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: He played the guy who got plastic surgery to look
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: like Liberace. He's a classic. What a psycho. Yeah. I
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: interviewed him. He's great. Boyfriend, get plastic surgery to look
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: like him. I want to fuck me. I know.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: That's the last person I would want to look like.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I go to a surgeon and say anything but this.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Isn't that such a psychotic thing to want to fuck you?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, that's so crazy. I want you to
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: look like me. Get your chin down and look like me.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Is that a power thing or.
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: Is it a fucking, it's a very bizarre. Yeah.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Pure narcissism or just crazy.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All the above power for sure. Power over that guy. Right.
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: He probably had the ultimate power in that relationship.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Cause he's Liberace. He's this enormous superstar and this guy's
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: his bitch, you know, like I want you to get
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: a different chin. You're going to look like me. He
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: got a crazy chin. Yeah, he did. He looks very silly.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: It was a fun fucking film, though.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Tom Papa had a part in this.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: Rob Lowe.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Joey Diaz used to have a great bit about it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: About the movie? About the HBO thing. Yeah. I mean,
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Liberace was a fucking weird case, right? Because he had
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: to pretend that he was straight forever. And it's so obvious. Today,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't have to. He could just be Liberace. But
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: back then, he had... Do you ever see the song?
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: There he is. Look at that. Super straight. Look at
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: the rings. Do you ever see the song When Liberace
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Winks at Me? No. So this is a song that
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: played on television in the 1950s when the world was innocent.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: And there's a woman who was swooning when Liberace would
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: wink at her. So it's Liberace playing the piano and
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: looking at the girl and winking. And they made a
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: twinkle in his eye. Let's play it because it's so bad.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Here it is. Put the headphones on. You got to
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: see this. What is it?
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: 53?
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: Is that what it said? 55. So she's watching him
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: on TV and she sings. Watch this. Oh, God. President
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: of the fan club.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I'm dropping you this line. I'd like to join your
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: fan club. It would simply be divine. I've found a
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: brand new idol. He's charming as can be.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I've really just had.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: A strange effect here on me. I start to shake.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I start to shiver.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: And every fiber in my being seems to quiver.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: It's a feeling very close to ecstasy.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: That's what happens whenever.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Archie winks at me. Wow.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: First of all, he looks like Jim Florentine. It really
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: creeps me out.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I remember when he winks, you hear the piano key.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: A little tinkle. Clink. Like, that's so weird. What a
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: weird time it was back then.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Dude, there's a video of him too on Instagram where
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: it was in the 60s when he was trying to
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: get with the, he was trying to like, you know,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: be with the movement man.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Be cool, man.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: And it was like something about something groovy. And it's
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: just him on a piano with all of these like, like,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: you know, 20 year olds just trying so hard to
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: get the kids.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, really? Oh, it's so. It's in the 60s?
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's in the, it looks like it's like 1967.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that it? Oh, boy.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Groovy. Look at these guys, their pants.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: God, look at their pants.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: The piano's got flowers on it. God, people really lost
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: their fucking minds in the 60s, didn't they?
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: This is very drug-inspired.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Imagine putting those pants on. Where's Liberace? He does come out.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure where he does. Oh, there he is.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: At least he's dressed for the occasion.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Look at him. He's got the thumbs up.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Look at his fucking vest.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Look at him. God, that's so weird. Liberace's turning on.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Isn't that great? Oh, God, that's so weird. And like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: the piano's moving.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: And he had to hold two girls. Like, yeah, I'm
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: just here to get some puss.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: He's turning on.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: This is like the acid days.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: But it's so crazy that like this was actually probably
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: not meant to be shitty and ironic, but it was
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: meant to be like, yeah, he's this cool guy getting
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: with the scene.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: He's getting with the scene, man. And he's out there
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: with his piano and all these weird people with flowers
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: on their pants.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And the dancing, the dance routine is just not the straightest.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: Look at him go with the vest. The vest is hilarious. Yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: it's like plastic. Yeah, it's like this fucking raincoat that
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: they turn into a vest.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: And a long like orange, like almost like Shakespeare sleeve
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: type of shirt.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: So strange. God. People were so weird. But you got
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: to think, like, in the 1960s, television had only been
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: around for, like, 20 years.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: That's what's weird. This is really weird if you really
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: stop and think about it. It was so new. It's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: kind of like the Internet, right? Like, the Internet is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: older today than television was then. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. It's 30 years old now.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the Internet basically came around. I got on
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: the internet for the first time in 94. I got
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: on America Online. You've got mail.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: And I remember, this is crazy. I couldn't believe it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: It hooked up to my phone. It was a 14.4 connection.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 14K.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Slow as shit. And then I got 56K. I thought
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: it was a boss. Like, look at me, 56K. And
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I remember thinking, this is crazy. This never existed before.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: So that was 30 years ago, 31 years ago. This
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: was just 20 years after TV, really. When did TV
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: really start happening? I want to say in the 50s.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was in the 1940s.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was in the 50s. What was the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: first television?
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Hitler broadcasted. But that must have been in the 40s.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Because in the movie Contact, where they show you that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Hitler broadcast, which they said was one of the first.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: He broadcasted on the radio or on television?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: No, it was the TV.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: I know they used to do a lot of World
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: War II stuff in the movie theaters. You'd go to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: the movie theater and you'd get the news. The Allied Front,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: and they'd show you the news. They'd show you propaganda
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: footage of the news. Our troops are out there fighting
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: for your freedom.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, and the Japanese, they'd show you. And the brave
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: American troops smiling, yeah.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they'd have those propaganda movies.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 7: 1953, 50% of American households had a TV set. By
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: the end of 1960, almost 9 out of 10 did.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Wow. So what was the first television? When did it first?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: Oh, they started in the 20s.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: They were expensive as shit and probably very big, and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: there wasn't anything to watch, so why would you have one?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Oh. When was the first broadcast, the first television broadcast?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, up until the 50s, it was really just like
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: public information, it says.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, so just like the news?
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 7: I mean, there wasn't a lot of shows being made.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: Like what was the first television show?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Before Gleason did Cavalcade. I think it was called Cavalcade.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: It was like when the Honeymooners debuted and you would
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: do Reginald Van Gleason. But that's definitely not the first one.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I Love Lucy was probably the same time or before that.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Right. And what year was that? That had to be
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: the 50s, right? 53 maybe, 55. Or it might have
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: been later. I don't remember. So probably the television really became,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: like when did it become a thing where people would
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: watch the news? Probably like late 40s maybe?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because 63, again, the Cronkite broadcast, I mean, so
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: by then it was like in full effect.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: So you got to think that 63 with, you know, Liberace,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: or the 55 one with Liberace, that's so new. Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: That's crazy new. And then 12 years later, you know,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: when he's fucking dancing with the flower pants on.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: There's a Wikipedia version.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: First national color broadcast, the 1954 Tournament of the Rose Parade,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: the U.S. Curd, January 1st, 1954. So the 1936 Summer Olympics. Oh,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: they had the Summer Olympics they broadcast.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: World Series, it says, was the first catalyst, like big buying.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Wow, you must have been a boss if you had
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: a fucking television in 1936. Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: And then first variety show was Milton Berle's show. So
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: he became known as Mr. Television.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: What year was that, 48?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: 47, 48.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 7: He took his radio show and made it a TV show.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: So by the time that Liberace dancing with the pants on,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: it's only 20 years old.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Which is really wild. Was that 68?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume it was definitely late 60s.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 7: Red Skelton television hours.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And the fact that people just didn't know he's a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: flaming homosexual. How did you not know? I guess there
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't enough gay people publicly, so everyone didn't recognize. People
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: knew when you spoke a certain way that you could be,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: but I guess that wasn't the voice that everybody recognized.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Well, everybody hid it, too. You had to hide it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Imagine being a gay guy trying to find other gay
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: guys back then. Like, what did you do?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: What a risk.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: To being gay in North Korea. Like, how do those
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: guys fucking, what signal do you give when you know
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the other guy's not working for the state?
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: You're in a rest area.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Even if he is, he might throw you under the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: bus anyway. Like, they have a whole culture on throwing
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: people under the bus. On tattling. Yeah, their whole culture
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: is based on tattling. And if you don't tattle on people,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: they assume you did something wrong.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I'd still like to kind of go there. I wouldn't
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: do it.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I would, yeah, just because they say there's all those
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: fake storefronts and all of those– or stores that are
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: just for the tourists that come through, that they have
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: all those fake stores that people.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Do they get a lot of tourism? Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, they get enough, like, through China. These companies
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: will go through China, and every country doesn't have the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: negative relationship that we do with them. So I would
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: kind of like to go, but I wouldn't trust it
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: after that Otto Warminger.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: What was his name? Warren Warminger? Yeah, the kid that
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: got beat up. Sorry, Otto.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: For taking a propaganda poster.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: It would be very scary to go, but I really
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: kind of want to. They have that giant building. It's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: like a thousand foot tall hotel or building that is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: just kind of half empty. Like it never was finished.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: They light it up at night so it looks like
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: they have a big downtown building.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: But North Korea has like a thousand-foot-tall building.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 7: There's a YouTube video of a guy that went. His
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: name's Mike OK. He went three or four months ago
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: after they had not been open since COVID.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah. And he went just to tour around North Korea?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: He's a British person, so he's not from America.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: And you're not supposed to film a lot of this stuff.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: These guys take really, really clandestine footage. You're allowed to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: film in certain areas, but I think your phone you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: had to leave at the border when you come in.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he explains what he was doing. I think he
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 7: says he wasn't supposed to.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: But he just did. Was he eating food there?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he goes to a few little towns, talks to them.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: I remember watching some of this.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: It's like a random Coke or something somewhere, or a
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: Red Bull, I think.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: That's so fucking risky.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: It is risky.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Because just the wrong thing you do, you insult them,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and the next thing you know, you're in jail for
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: the rest of your life, or you're beaten to death.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they said that if there's a picture of Kim
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Jong-un or Kim Jong-il, you have to be respectful and
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: you stand in front of the pictures to take your photo.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: They're really.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: And they just rat on each other.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Well, Shane Smith went. Shane from Vice.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, like before things got too crazy
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: over there. And he said that they set up a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: fake restaurant for him. Like they pretended that they had restaurants,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: and so they had a fake restaurant. And he went there,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: and there was like only him there, and people were
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: serving him. Bizarre. Yeah, he said it was really weird.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I guess when you're seen as a god, and everybody just...
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: co-signs it.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: You don't know how bad of a liar you are.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: Like you don't know how badly you're presenting because everybody
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: is just, Oh my God.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Like, right.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: So they'd have no idea. Kim Jong-un has no idea
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: that people look at him and go like, that's not real.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: And then the people that are there, they have no internet.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Like their, their world is the North Korean internet. They don't,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: they're not connected to the rest of the world.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: No, they would, uh, I guess people will like sneak
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: in thumb drives and stuff like that.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: South Korean TV.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: They catch you. They catch you.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: You're fucking. But, you know, you know, Saad Massani, he's
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: he's from Afghanistan and he ran. I think it was
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: called the Moby Group in Afghanistan. But they would go
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: next to the Iranian border and pipe in like American
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: TV shows and they would illegally send them over the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: border to try to get people. a little bit westernized
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: or to at least see things a little bit differently.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: But it's an illegal feed. You're just shooting it over somehow.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: Hoping they don't kill you. Hoping they don't kill you, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Speaking of kill you. What's that? Speaking of kill you
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: in Iran.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, what's going on there? Oh my God, yeah.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: But no one's surprised. You know what I mean? I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: bet the guys who got killed were surprised. They were
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: supposed to meet with Trump to have a peace negotiation.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Wasn't the time up No. I thought the time lapsed.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Did the Israelis jump the gun on the time?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Well, the speculation, according to Grok, I sent Jamie this.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Somebody said, were they killed, like ask Grok, were they
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: killed because they were negotiating for peace? You know, that
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: the Israelis wanted, they didn't want a negotiation.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, because they wanted to get those nuclear sites out
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: of there.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: They didn't trust the Iranians and they wanted to make
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: sure that these guys were gone. Yeah. They essentially killed
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: everybody that he was negotiating with. So this guy's response
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: above it, it says, what evidence might there be to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: support this position? And the position was go above that. Yeah.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Israel did not attack Iran because Iran was about to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: attack Israel. Israel attacked Iran because there was about to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: be peace. And then this guy asked Grok, what evidence
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: might there be to support this position? And then Grok says,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: evidence suggesting Israel's June 13, 2025 attack in Iran aimed
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: to disrupt U.S.-Iran peace talks includes its timing coinciding with
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: the sixth round of nuclear negotiations scheduled around June 12
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: through 14, 2025, international reactions like the U.N., and the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: Oman condemning the strikes as undermining diplomacy support this view. However,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Israel justified the attack as a preemptive strike against Iran's
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: nuclear program, citing its noncompliance with the IAEA. No direct
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: evidence proves intent to stop peace, and the focus on
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: nuclear sites suggests security concerns drove the action. The issue
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: remains debated with perspectives varying by geopolitical stance.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: Now ask Grok. Grok is kind of Twitter's AI.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: How influenced is it by like a chat GPT I've
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: gone to. And I was kind of curious because my
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: wife's obsessed with it. So I was like, I think
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: this is probably still ideologically influenced for sure. So other
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: people have done this, but I put in right five
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: jokes about Jesus and it did five Jesus jokes. And
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: then I put in right five jokes about Muhammad and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: it came back with, well, we like to keep things
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: respectful and I did the same thing with right five
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: jokes about white people and then right five jokes about
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: black people.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: And it did the same thing.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: It wrote the white person jokes. but the black people
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: jokes it wouldn't write. So I was like, oh, okay,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: this is still... somehow tied in.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: There's guardrails.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: There's guardrails, and it's ideologically slanted. It may not always
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: be that way. So I'm wondering if Grok is the
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: same way. Is any answer it gives you almost like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: coming from either somebody at PBS or somebody from someplace else?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Grok is probably the best of them for that, but
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: the worst was Gemini. Remember when they asked Gemini to
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: make photographs of Nazi soldiers and they had a diverse
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: group of Nazi soldiers? including Asian women, Native American women,
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: black people.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Keep it fair, folks.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: Keep it fair. Keep it fair. They just got locked
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: up in this woke ideology thing to the point where
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: the images they created of Nazis were woke.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened where people become so afraid of, like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: I know truth can be unpleasant sometimes, but, like, where
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: it goes.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: To that level.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Like, we will write jokes about Jesus, but not about Muhammad. Like,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: who's programming that and thinks.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: That's a good thing? Well, they're scared.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: They are.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: That's what it is.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: I'd almost respect them if they said they were scared. Like,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: if they could look. We all understand what goes on.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: We don't want somebody running in with a bomb belt. Like,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: you know, there's violent retribution. I would respect that, but
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: they won't say that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: They act like you're crazy for questioning.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's not true. Yeah, it's weird. We're in a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: weird stage. We're in a weird stage. We have all
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: the information, but it's still got guardrails on it.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I feel better about myself, though, the older I get.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: The more like.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I years ago said it and knew it was
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: getting worse and worse, and I was never stupid enough
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: to think it didn't exist. So I'm kind of like, yeah, well,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, it validates what I kind of thought.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't a fucking idiot. I'm not
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: taken off guard by it.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: You knew it was coming.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not necessarily to this level, but when you saw
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: this happening and then that happening, and then little weird
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: things like Donald Sterling, that one always bothered me. His private...
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: communications being used against him and it's like does anybody
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: he was the owner of the Golden State Warriors I
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: don't remember oh this was the guy.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: That had the girlfriend yeah I'm sorry the Clippers he
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 8: was the guy that had the girlfriend who was his
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 8: little side piece and the girlfriend recorded him saying a
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: bunch of things about black people.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: And it was almost like he was like, blah. I
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: don't think he was a hateful old guy.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: But he was just like an old guy. Like, you
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Don't hang out with blacks. Well,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: he was saying don't do it publicly, right? Yeah. Because
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: it embarrasses me or something like that.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: His friends are probably calling him.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But he's talking to his side piece and she's
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: recording him. The whole thing was gross.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: The invasion of... Even if he's a piece of shit,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care about him.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: It's the idea that people are comfortable... Like nobody sticks
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: up for privacy. Like everyone complains about, we don't want
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: the government. And it's like, Hey motherfuckers, where were you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: when this guy or stupid Hunter Biden's big dick is
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: all over the internet. Where were you complaining about it?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: You just judged them on it. So I wish people
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: would stop doing that.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Hunter Biden stuff, the fun stuff was like
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: him smoking crack and hookers and getting foot jobs. It
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: was just fun. Did he get foot jobs? Yeah, he
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: did a lot of stuff. There's a lot of wild
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: stuff going on in there. He's a wild boy.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Respect.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: But I guess, you know, you're smoking crack.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: In a tub, unshaven.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: You got no guardrails. You're off the fucking reservation.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: He's a naughty boy.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: But then the other stuff that was in there was
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: really interesting. Yes. The emails, about 10% to the big
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: guy and all that stuff. And there's just brutal, rampant.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: obvious corruption, that they just look the other way because
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: it's a Democrat. And it's just really strange.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: If Trump Jr. did anything that Hunter did, they would
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: kill him. It would be at the front page. It's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: all they would talk about.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: They certainly wouldn't have hit it from Twitter. They wouldn't have.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: Which was really crazy. It was a New York Post story.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: And then the FBI got involved. And the Twitter files, like,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: you know, when Schellenberger and Taibbi and all those guys
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: went over the Twitter files. It's so damning. It's so
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: crazy that that's not so illegal that there's, like, massive
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: trials on television and people are prosecuted for it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I guess with private companies or even though the media operates.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: But it's the government. The government is what I'm concerned
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: with because it's absolutely election interference. 100%. 100%. Because there's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of people that were on the fence. They
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: didn't know whether they're going to vote for Trump or
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: whether they're going to vote for Biden. They didn't know
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: what they're going to do. And then they saw that
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: and they were like, fuck this.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: And guys like Jack from Twitter have come out and
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: said like, yeah, we shouldn't have censored that story. But
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: it's like too late now. It's like you did it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: and people were telling you when you did it, you
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: shouldn't do it.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: Zuckerberg talked about it on this podcast. He talked about
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: the FBI getting involved on the podcast, censoring COVID information,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: censoring the laptop information, this weird feeling that he got
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: from the government all of a sudden telling them what they,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: and some of the stuff that they were telling them
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: they had to take down was actually true, factual information.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: And they were like, oh, boy. And so they diminished
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: its reach, and they did a lot of weird shit.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: And the penalty for not taking it down would have been, like,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: were they threatening them with, like, Section 230 is a
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: big one that all the big companies are scared of, like,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: if they change that. Because they said, I think the Internet,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: freedom comes from Section 230, where a company can't be
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: held legally liable for what's posted on their site, which
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: is how, like, you can post anything about people, and
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: the sites themselves can't get sued. Because they're like, yeah,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: we're just like a phone company.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: It's a public square.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: A public square. Although it's not anymore. It's much more
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: ideologically based, and it's much more of a publisher, in
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: my opinion, than a public square. But maybe they threaten
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: you with that, or maybe that's where they start to go. Like,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: we'll see to it that 230. I mean, I'm guessing.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: But what else could they threaten them with?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a good question. I mean, just the fear
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: of being on the wrong side of the government. I mean,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: that's the thing, because then they could go after you. Like,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: you know, for someone like Zuckerberg, Who had already sat
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: in front of those congressional hearings and they had already
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: asked him about a bunch of different things that the
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: company had done. And you remember those weird hearings that
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: he had to sit through where he'd sip water very
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: strange and people said he's a fucking robot. He's probably
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: so nervous. Of course he is. Yes, Senator. No, Senator.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you for asking, Senator. Like all those weird moments. Like,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: you got to be terrified of those people because they
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: could change laws or they could just decide to prosecute you.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, look what's happening to the guy, Durov, from Telegram.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know that story.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: You don't know that story?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: He is essentially, he's under house arrest in France. He
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: has not been tried with anything. He has not been
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: charged with anything. But what they're saying is essentially they
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: want a backdoor to Telegram. Telegram is an encrypted app.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people use it for illegal things,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: just like a lot of people use Twitter for illegal things.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: A lot of people use DMs for illegal things. I'm
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: sure they use Signal for illegal things and WhatsApp for
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: illegal things. Telegram was especially popular amongst criminals, and they
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: wanted to be able to get in there. But then
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: the question is, like, well, what do you determine as
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: a criminal? Is it a political dissident? Like, is it,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: you know, what does it mean?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: Are you looking for underage people being photographed?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Or are you looking at just people who, like, they
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: can always expand what they consider to be illegal.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, they took Backpage down, so they can get
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: certain companies, like, if you don't do what they want
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: you to do, there is a way for them to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: get you by saying you're too complicit in certain activities.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: That's the Silk Road. That's what happened with that guy.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Ross Albrecht, yeah. Yeah, and now he's luckily Trump freed him.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Did he pardon him?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, he did.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to get him on, but he's just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: not ready to talk, which is totally understandable.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Like I said, if you ever do, if you want
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: to talk, I'd be happy to hear your story.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Well, cause you're probably afraid that they're going to come
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: with something else. Like it's almost like, I don't.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: Want to put it in their face. Now I'm out.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Fuck those people. What they did to me was wrong. Oh,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: new charges. That's right.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: That's why whenever somebody is exonerated after 30 years of
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: being in jail, they're like, I'm not even angry. I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: just want, cause you're afraid you're going to say the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: wrong thing. And then you go, all right, we're going
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: to come back.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Well, that was the really scary thing about the Trump stuff.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: Like when they were trying to get him for 34
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: felony counts, none of those were a felony. All of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: them were past the statute of limitations. It was just,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: bookkeeping errors or bookkeeping you know they they wrote down
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: the wrong things and they tried to hide the fact
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: that he was making hush money payments but the the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: reality of that legal system being used against you lawfare
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: being you know they target you like the the real
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: estate one when they they tried to say that he
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: overvalued mar-a-lago and it was really only worth 18 million
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: and so they charged him like hundreds of millions of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: dollars which is fucking insane Because Mar-a-Lago is an enormous
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: piece of property that is on the most expensive place
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: in the country. Like that area, he's got, I think
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: he's got, is it more than 20 acres there? I mean,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: it's a huge piece of property there. And the next
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: door neighbor had a place that was like five acres
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: and it sold for $ 50 million. Just the property.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: So they fucked him.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: They fucked him. And it's- obvious that they were fucking him.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: They were doing it because they were trying to make
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: him a felon when he was running for president.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Letitia James went after him really badly in New York.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: And it turns out she had done some shit.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, a little bank stuff going on.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: She did some fucking... A little mortgage questions. Yeah, she
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: did some inappropriate things. But he's a.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Whether people like him or not, I don't always agree
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: with him at all. But he's an amazing person. Like,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: to have withstood that, the pressure of that. Again, just
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: as a.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: To continue... With.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: The pressure that they were putting on him and the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: way they were coming after him and to still run again.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the fucking craziest thing you're ever going
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: to see in your life.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: And they shot him.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: And they shot him and the guy was going to
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: do it again.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Or try to.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: And another guy. And a fucking, oh yeah, the guy
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: with the hole in the fence where his golf course was.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Kooky. It's kooky.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: But it's like, and somebody pointed out to me, it's like,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised he doesn't expect this. It's like
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: he went after them. Like he went after the CIA
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: and the FBI. It's like they're going to make it
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: their life's work to come after you now.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: It's also crazy when it gets real transparent like that, though.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: You know, but when someone like Zuckerberg or any of
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: these other people that run afoul of the federal government
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: or the intelligence agencies, when they see stuff like that,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: I understand why they comply. Yeah. They're probably fucking terrified.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: It is a little or very scary when you're on there. Like,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you never want them to dig in.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: And be focused on you. The eye of Sauron.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: We're coming for you. Because, again, they don't pay legal fees.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: They can do it all day.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: They can do it through the next administration.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Because Letitia Jay, she went after, what I didn't like
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: about her was a lot, but I didn't like the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: fact that they went after Cuomo for his book money. Like,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: they went after Andrew Cuomo for his book money, I think.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Did they? Yeah. For what reason?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know what her reasoning was. I mean, obviously,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: she just wanted to stick it to him and fuck him,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: but I think it was that he, it was seen
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: as some form of a government payment, or I don't
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: remember the technicality, but I remember being very annoyed by,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: that she was trying to go after, I think it
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: was a $ 5 million advance.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: Lawfare is fucking terrifying. It's terrifying when they do that
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: to people when everybody could see it. That's the real
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: problem with the Trump one. And my problem wasn't, my
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: real problem was like, don't these people understand, doesn't the
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: general public with their lack of outrage, because, you know,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: he's on the right and they're on the left. Don't
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: those people understand that now they've set a precedent and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: then they could use that on you now or anybody else.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 3: And if, a Republican president gets in like there's in now,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: it could be easily used on his opponents because they've
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: set a precedent. That's scary shit, man. It's really scary.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: And nobody, again, it's like whether it's with Donald Sterling
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: and privacy, nobody sticks up for each other on principle.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: And the conservatives don't do it.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Like they've got like the free speech thing in their
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: corner now much more than progressives do. But it's like,
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: I don't hear them sticking up for progressives who are annoying.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: It's like, You have to stick up for people you
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: don't like and that you think are shit. It's not just,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: you're not a big free speech warrior if you only
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: fucking raise a flag for people who agree with you.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: And I find them falling into that trap and it's like,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: don't fall into that.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: Fucking trap.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Stick up for progressives who suck and who are saying
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: stupid things. Defend their right to say it without getting
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: in trouble. Don't look at them getting fired as, good
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: case of your own medicine, like we get it. But
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: then that's how they justify you getting fired. So it
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: drives me crazy that people don't defend other people's right
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: to privacy or right to say what they want And
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: everyone in the country thinks they're a free speech absolutist.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: But they're not.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: They're not, yeah.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Elon's as close as I've seen. Like, he doesn't seem
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: to be shutting anybody up, like, regardless of what they
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: say on his platform.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: People are talking shit about him every day.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: I saw one person was alluding to bad things happening
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: to him. You know, like, wanting that. I wouldn't say
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: encouraging it, but close to encouraging it. And I'm like,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: if he's leaving that up, nobody has any room to complain.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Like, if he leaves up horrible shit about himself, then.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: And Buddy also left up the Kanye song. The Hitler song. Oh, yes.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: Is that where he blew his cousin? Or is that
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: a different one?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: That's a different one.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: All the hits.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, the song is Heil Hitler. He's singing
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: Heil Hitler in a catchy song. It's like, wow. This
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: is crazy. It is crazy.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: And I don't know Kanye West at all. I've never
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: particularly loved him. I find a lot of it is
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: just like he'll just say the most troll things. Like
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: something tells me he's going to come back down to
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: earth one day and go, look, I was off my medication.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean any of that shit that I said.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I feel bad about it.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to stay off his medication. I
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: think when he puts on his medication, he can't be creative.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: I think part of his thing, whatever his, the way
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: his mind works. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's this mania. Yeah.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, I understand that in a
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: way because I've always liked, you know, you go through
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: a depression or whatever. I'm like, do I want to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: go on something? But I've always been scared that it
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: would fuck up my creativity.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably will. I mean, I think, I mean,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on in Kanye's mind or
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: anybody's mind other than my own. But I would imagine that,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, a guy like Kanye, who's so prolific. I mean,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: he's put out so many albums and he's a complete workaholic.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: And just has, like when you talk to him, like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: I had him on the podcast, and it's almost like
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: when you're talking, he's upset. Like he doesn't want, he
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: wants to talk. He wants to just constantly talk. Yeah.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: Like his brain's like a tornado, just wah. It's all
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: just going, all these different thoughts. But that's also why
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: he can make so many great songs. It's like it's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: all just pouring out of him. But, you know, it
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: also gets out of hand. And then, you know, you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: wind up in the situation where he's in now.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: It also, he's the only person, he went into, him
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: and Trump were, he was in Trump's.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: Office one time.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: And he's the only person I've ever seen Trump just
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: kind of sit there and go, all right, well, whenever
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: he's finished, I'll jump in. I've never seen anyone do
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: that to Trump.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: Well, Trump was happy that any celebrity was on his side.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: Because at that point, he was Hitler. You know, there
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: was a lot of people that were calling him Hitler.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: And to have a guy like Kanye West, who is
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: such a contrarian, also... There was the thing because Obama
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: said he was a jackass. Yes. And so he was like, oh, really? Well,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: fuck you. That's right.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: It was about the Taylor Swift thing.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: That guy's a jackass. Well, it wasn't even that harsh
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: of an incident. He said it privately, and I think
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: somebody heard it, or it was picked up on a mic.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he said it to be public.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I thought he said it privately, and then somebody got
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the audio or whatever.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: It was really the Taylor Swift thing? I believe it was, yeah. Oh,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: here it is. Here it is. The young lady seems
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: like a perfectly nice person. She's getting her award. Why
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: would he do that? He's a jackass. Cut this out.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming all this stuff.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Where's the pool?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: Come on, guys.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Cut the president some slack. See, it wasn't even that.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: And he wanted that cut out.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: That was private talk. Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't even said with real- Malice.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: Real rancor.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like, he's a jackass.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: People laugh. Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I guess that would annoy me if I was him.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: I mean- If I was him. Yeah. If it was me,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, he's right.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I guess so, yeah.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, I was being a jackass.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: But at what point do you, because everyone has a
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan opinion. Everyone weighs in on you. It's crazy.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I see you on the Daily Mail all the time.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: At what point are you able to go like, I
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: just don't give a fuck.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: What- I don't read any of it. You don't care?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: I don't read any of it.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I guess, does it bother you? Has it ever bothered you?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: You can't do anything about it. Why would it bother you?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do? Are you going to
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: change their mind? You know, you can't. And a lot
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: of it is disingenuous. A lot of it, they don't
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: know you. They don't listen to what you say. You know,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: if they, far right, whenever they say far right, far
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: right podcast, I'm like, okay. Yeah.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: I've had comics say that. Like, they just don't know.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you don't really, you've really never paid attention.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he stuck up for gay marriage.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: He loves Bernie.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Like it's crazy when you hear, I was very jealous
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: that you, and I talked to Hinchcliffe about this when
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: you interviewed Magnus.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: Uh, Magnus Carlson. Yeah.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: There's very few people I really want to meet that
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I haven't met. But he's somebody. Did you see him
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: bang the chessboard?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: That was big news in chess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: he made a fumble. He fucked up. He was ahead
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: of the game. He was winning, yeah. Made a blunder.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: And it was. But here's the genius of the people.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: They actually call it sport. And the people watching it
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: knew he fucked up, which means they're all geniuses. Right, right, right.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: Magnus blundered! Magnus blundered!
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: They couldn't believe he had made that.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: I think it was a rook move.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: But he's somebody I would like to... I don't know
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: what I'd talk to him about.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, he was fascinating. Fascinating. Any high achiever or really
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: high level person like that, world champion in something that's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: insanely difficult, they're fascinating people. I feel that way about
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: MMA fighters, any kind of pro athlete, anybody who's like
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, like any high level performer. Those are very,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: very unusual people.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: Do you give them slack? And I mean, just in
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: your brain as a person, like if they're a little whatever,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: They're rude, they're rude, but if somebody's a little quirky
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: or weird, if you're that good at something, that might
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: just be the price you pay.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Like Bobby Fischer, I love. He's one of my favorite
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: people ever, even though he completely went berserk. But I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: have such an affection for Bobby Fischer, and I'm like,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: he's such a genius that sometimes it just, there's a
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: price you pay.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: It gets away from you. It gets away from you. 100%.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: I think it absolutely does and can. And I think
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: that when you're dealing with a high-level performer in any discipline,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: whatever drives them to be that much better than anybody
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: else probably makes them insane. I mean, I just don't
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: think real true excellence comes without a price. I don't
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: think there's any way to get there without just not
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: being balanced in a bunch of other areas of your
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 3: life because you're focusing almost all of your attention on
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: one very specific thing, whether it's moving chess pieces around
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: or throwing a football, whatever the fuck it is. Like,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: there's no way you can be balanced in every aspect
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: of your life if you want to be 5% better
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: than anybody who's ever done it.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is weird, too, like, because to be
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: better than everybody at something.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: It's, I mean, like, if you ever talk to somebody
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: at a party, just when our life is doing stand-up,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: and they're talking about their job, and a lot of
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: times I'm.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, shut the fuck, I don't care. Give a shit.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: So to be that, on such a level, better than
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: everyone on earth at something, it's gotta be hard not
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: to live in that place.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: Where you can't relate.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Very few things are interesting. Very few things are moving.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Like Buzz Aldrin, he snapped at me when we interviewed him.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: He's a bit of a cranky guy. Let's not dilly dally.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: I've got to get to CNN.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Fuck you, Buzz. Is that what he said to you? Yes.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: I asked him a question, a good question about his
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: book on Mars. I asked him about space travel and
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I said about what type of psychological issues. Testing, would
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: you maybe need to go on a three-year space trip?
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good question.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you, John.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: I felt it was too.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Buzz did not. He fucking snapped at me. But again,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: like Regan had a bit about him walking on the moon.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: And it's like when you've gone there, it's almost like
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: anything else. And I took it, by the way, because
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: it was Buzz. I wasn't going to yell at him.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: It's like he's fucking Buzz Aldrin.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm an annoying, blinking idiot asking a question that I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: think sounds smart. And he just shut me up. But
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: how do you find other people interesting when you're that guy?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: When you've done that.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe my question was just banal and stupid.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of people like that that are
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: the best at whatever the fuck they do that they
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: can't relate to anybody else other than other people that
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: do their thing. And they're usually very competitive with those people.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: So they've alienated them from their friend group as well.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: Which is really kind of crazy.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Well, the worst is people who think they're that guy
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: and who are just.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: And they're mediocre.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: They're just average comics.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's the worst. The comics are the worst with that.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 3: The narcissist comics that believe they're better than everybody else
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: when they're just mediocre is crazy. And then they just
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: shit on all the other comics. It's like, do you
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: ever watch your own act? Like, do you don't hate
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: your act? Like, that's crazy. It is.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: And you think you're doing Shakespeare. And like every comic,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: like we all have a narcissistic quality. You need that
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: to be in front of people.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: Look at me.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: That's a narcissistic quality. But there's a difference between that
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: and being like a legit. Narcissist yeah, and the way
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: comics was fucking very petty about guys like they attacked
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Matt Reif He's harmless. He's just out there doing his
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: act in front of fucking 20,000 people.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: They hate him because he's successful Yes, if he was
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: nobody they wouldn't hate him. That's all it is man
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: There's so many you very rarely see these comics attacking
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: someone who's not doing as well as them.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: It's always a guy who is doing better who they
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: feel I'm entitled deserve it.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, my comedy is so much more cerebral So
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: much more interesting. Like, oh, is it really?
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I'll say for myself. And I have
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of faults. But I've always put the blame
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: squarely where it belongs on me.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: I never think it's the world.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why everybody loves you. I mean, that's a
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: very good quality to have. You know, like maybe self-deprecating
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: to a fault. Sure. Like you're a little bit self-deprecating
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: to a fault. Like I don't know how many times
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: I've had to tell you, no, Jim, you're fucking great. Stop.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: You and I have had a lot of those conversations.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: But I don't do it for... But it's better than
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: me saying, Jim, you're not great.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim, you're okay.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: Jesus fucking Christ. Leave everybody else alone and look at yourself.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: But I don't do that because I want people to
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: compliment me either. I'm never out there going, gee, guys,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: am I fat?
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: That's repulsive.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: But it's the guys who think, like, I went and watched,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: and I don't know Matt. I just, I went and
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: watched some of his clips.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like, he's funny.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: He's just doing crowd work. Like, what's the problem?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: And he's good at it. He's good at it. It's
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: the reason why the arena's full. First of all, he's
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: very handsome. Good looking guy. Cute, adorable, lovable. Really nice
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: guy in real life. I knew him before he was
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: ever famous. I met him when he was 20 years old.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: He was coming around the store. He was a nice
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: fucking guy. I've been friends with him for a long time.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: I don't understand that hate. But, you know, I was
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: coming from a different position. You know, I was coming
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: from a position where I was already famous and I
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: wasn't looking to be more. I wasn't, you know, there's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: some people that like always feel like they haven't gotten enough.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: They haven't gotten enough credit, haven't gotten enough respect. You know,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: these other people are stealing from them. It's a famine mentality.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: It's a terrible mentality to carry around with you because
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: you never heal from it. If you go through life
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: with this famine mindset and everybody else is doing better
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: than you, like you have the worst attitude ever for
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: getting good at things because you're always going to be
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: focusing too much of your attention on other people. Yes.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: You're really sabotaging yourself whether you believe it or not.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: What they're getting, what they're doing, it's the feeling of entitlement.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: Like if I was.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: if I was bitter about every person that used to
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: open for me that passed me, I mean, I'd be
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: on a comedy club roof with an AR 15. I'm just,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I couldn't handle it. I mean, you have to learn
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: to live with it and go like, yeah, you know what?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: I recognized people that were funny. Like I like funny
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: people and I was right about certain people. Like they're
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: really good comics. So yeah, it's that sense of entitlement
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: that guys get that drives me fucking crazy. But I
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: see them attacking certain people doing well. They always did
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: it to Carrot Top, even though he's actually funny.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: He's a funny comic. It's a funny show. He's got
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: a great brain. I've been to his show in Vegas.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: It's fucking great. And he's a really nice guy. Yeah,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: he's a great guy. He's not a mean guy. It
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't deserve anyone's hate. He's a sweetheart. Yeah. When I
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: had him on the podcast, he was so happy and
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: so thankful that someone wasn't shitting on him. And he's like, dude,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: I got great crowds now. My crowds are packed. It's
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: a great show. If you're in Vegas, go check him out.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: It's fun. And he's a really nice guy.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: And I watched him on Kill Tony. There's a clip
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: of him. And they're pulling out these things.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: Gay mouse.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: It was a disco ball over a mousetrap.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: And it was so stupid.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: But it really is funny stuff.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: Just silly.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Comedians think all props are bad. And me and Colin
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: talked about that one time. And he goes, why should
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: the Hacks own McDonald's? Meaning if you have something that's
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: original and funny to say about a subject, who cares
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: if hacks have touched it?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: If your thought is original, fuck them. Exactly.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: And it's this weird thing where comics think they sound
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: smarter if they go after certain things.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: It's stupid. It's dumb. It's a dumb perspective. It should
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: be here's the world through my eyes. And everything is
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: in the world. Traffic is in the world. If you
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: have a traffic joke. And it's actually legitimate. Like, maybe
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: you have a perspective on traffic that I've never heard before.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe your airline travel bit will be the airline travel
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 3: bit that I really love. Because, you know, that's the
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: problem with comics, too, is that when you're on the
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: road too much, your experiences are very limited. Because all
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: you're doing is performing in front of people, hanging out
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: in the green room, going to dinner, flying in an airplane,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: staying in a hotel. So how many comics have jokes
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: about hotel rooms and... You know, they knock on the door,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: even when the do not disturb is on, you're jerking off.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: Like how many guys have done those jokes? Yes. But
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: it's just because you have a very limited experience to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: draw from.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: I actually, I started taking days off. And my wife
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: and I will go on vacation somewhere.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: We'll do.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: because it becomes where you're feeding on yourself. Like you're
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: only doing ABCD, ABC, and there's no life. And I'm like,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: what am I going to fucking talk about? We get it.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: You were at Newark airport. It sucks. So I, I
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: just wanted to do more life things. A, cause it's
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: fun to do, but B it's like, just, I allowed
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: myself to, cause I'm like, you can at least talk
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: about it on stage. It's not, you can't just talk
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: about being a comic or you're, Right. I'm almost too
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: much talk about myself. I want to start talking about
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: other things. I just feel like the only thing I'm
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: really qualified to discuss in my own life. But I
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: kind of want to talk about other shit, too, because
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: life is kind of stable now. And it's I don't
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: know what to do with that.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to handle. You know what I mean?
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Like not being out and being crazy and fucking riding
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: around for four hours a night with a pistol.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: In my car.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just, it was an ugly, it
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: was a fucking ugly scene show. So I did when
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: ONA were kicked off the, I would ride around and
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: just fucking just ride around for, for, for four hours
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: a night. Listen, I couldn't listen to any comedy. I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: couldn't because I was so in such a fucking depression.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: I would put on sports radio, six 60 and, Joe
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Beningo overnight.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know, do you know who he is?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: He was a guy on 660, 240 on fan, and
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: he was a Jet fan, and he was a fucking maniac.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: But I would listen to him complain about the Jets,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: or Art Bell. I fell in love with Art Bell.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: There he is right there.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Ah, I didn't even notice that.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the wall now.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: That's how I heard about Michio Kaku was from him.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: Ah. And I tell you, he lived in.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: My building in New York, Michio Kaku.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you did tell me that.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: So I would listen to Art Bell, and I would
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: listen to Joe Beningo, and just look at hookers all night.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Ah.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I'd piss in a cup and I would fucking ride
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: around and it was just my way of, and go
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: to bed, wake up maybe eight hours later and go
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: do Tough Crowd when I was on. It was a
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: very crazy fucking time.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: So now life is stable. When ONA got pulled, that
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: was an interesting moment of censorship, right? Like that homeless
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: guy came on and said terrible things about Condoleezza Rice.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: And the queen of, no, that's a different, when we
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: got fired was for Sex for Sam.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: That was 2002. Oh, that was when someone had sex
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: in a church. Yeah.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: You got points. That's right. That's right. That's right.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: But the company had signed off on the bit. Like,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I got why they were mad, but they had signed off.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: It was a sponsored bit. The company knew what was
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: going on. So, ONA could have survived that if the.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: Company didn't panic. Throw them under the bus.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: And in fairness, it's so much, it's so funny, like,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: regular radio is what saved the career because When XM
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: suspended the show for a month, we were on K-Rock
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: at that time.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: Right. And they kept us on for the month.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: So then eventually we came back to Satellite a month later.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: But I think they would have fired us.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: I remember those days.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing radio now. It's the first time in
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: 20 years.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: It's very strange. Wow.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: To not have to be up. I get up at
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: like 9 now and just go to the gym so
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: I have some kind of schedule. But it's very weird
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: after 20 years.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: To be gone from that date yeah you've been on
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: radio forever it's been more than 20 years hasn't it.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Well it was 20 on this run and like but
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: when did the ONA start ONA I did in like
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: 2001 2002 okay we got fired came back on October
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: of 04 and my contract expired the end of December
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: of 24 so it was about 22 years total.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: Every comic owes ONA a debt of gratitude all of
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: us do Without them, I don't think there would be podcasts.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: I think that was the real podcast because that was
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: the first time we realized– because ONA did the show
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: with no structure. Whereas like I did Howard a bunch
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: of times. But when you did Howard, you were a guest.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: They wanted stuff that you were going to talk about.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: They had questions for you. They had setups. They were ready.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: And then a couple of times I did Howard where
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: you would write jokes for him. So you would sit
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: there and there was an overhead projector. It was the
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: Jackie chair when Jackie left. So they brought a bunch
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: of us in and then already wound up doing it.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: all the time. I couldn't do it. I just like,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: it was too early in the morning. It was like,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to live in New York, but I
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: did it a bunch of times, but it was structured,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: you know, and Howard was always in control of it.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: And he's actually running the keys. He's running the board,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 3: the soundboard. And, you know, it was a very structured
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: show and, you know, that's how we did it forever.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: I get it. But the way ONA did it was
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: so different. There was no structure. You'd go in there
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: and you'd sit and just have fun. Yeah. And it
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: would be Patrice and you and me and fucking, you know,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 3: everybody would come in. Voss, Bobby. Voss and Bobby and
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: all these different people would come in and burr and,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, and it was some of the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: wildest moments ever, like the baby bird.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: I'll never see anything crazier than that in my life.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: Never. Yeah. Yeah, he died recently, huh?
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Pat from Munaki, yeah.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: Pat from Munaki.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: Pat Philbin, I think his name was.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: Rest in peace, Pat from Munaki. That one thing that
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: you did that one day was one of the most
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: shocking things I've ever seen in my fucking life. Yeah.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: It was Ari was there with me, Burr was there,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: and I remember it was my idea. I think it was, right? Because,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I was doing Fear Factor at the time.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: I was used to people doing horrible shit, and I
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: was like, how about you lean your head over the
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: garbage can and he throws up in your mouth?
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: And fucking Pat Duffy, who was such a psycho. He
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: was like, okay. He would do anything. He brushed his
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: teeth with cat shit.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I thought it was dog shit, but you might be right.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to say Pat Duffy was a fucking...
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: Fucking psycho. He was like a Marine if interns had that.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: He was a seal. He was a seal. Fearless. Fearless.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: He was funny. He didn't give a fuck.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: He got it.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: He was great.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: He was great. He was the best radio employee of
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: all time. He really was. And that moment was the first...
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: Fucking craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. I
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 3: couldn't believe it was happening. And the amount of vomit
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: that was coming out of Pat's mouth when he was
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: throwing it into Pat Duffy's face. And Pat was lying
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: there with his mouth open. Yeah. I mean, people at
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: home listening to this, you know, come on. There's cell
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: phone footage of this. Yes. From like... A 2002, there
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: 2007, yeah.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: Was it 2007?
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're in K-Rock. That's the K-Rock studio right there.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: He throws up in his mouth. His mouth is wide open.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: It was so disgusting. And it kept coming. Yeah. Because
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: Pat drank like some fucking... 70-something things of eggnog. It
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: was like two gallons of eggnog. It was fucking insane.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: And he had... Oh, there it goes. There it goes.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: And it would just keep coming. Like, you're like, no,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: it's over. And if you hear us in the studio,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: we're all screaming.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: And he just keeps throwing up. You think it's over?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: You think it's over? Nope. He's got more. And at
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: the end, I mean, it's cartoonish. It's like that scene
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: in Stand By Me with the blueberry eating contest. Yes.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: Or in Monty Python. And it keeps going. It keeps going.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: It doesn't end. He thinks it's over. Oh, it was
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: fucking absolutely, completely insane.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: Do you ever see the meaning of life, Monty Python?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: When the guy, a wafer-thin mint monsieur, and he starts vomiting,
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: get me a bucket, I'm going to throw up.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: That's what he reminds me of, because he's not moving.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: He's standing there, and his mouth opens, and the vomit
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: just shoots. Dude, usually you retch, and you move, but
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: he just opened his mouth, and it was like a
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: button got pushed, and it fucking shoots. It's the craziest
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: fucking thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: And if it wasn't, there it is. Yeah, exactly. It's
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 3: just like, but it's not, that's not even as extreme.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: Look how fat that guy is.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was just great.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: Insane.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: A wafer thin mint.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And you know, that show having that kind of
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: a format, let us all realize how fun it is
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: to just get comics together and just talk shit. Yeah.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: You know, and then when Anthony started doing live from
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: the compound, uh, when he did his own show. And then,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: of course, Tom Green's show, because Tom Green had his
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: own show in his living room, and I was a
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: guest on that too, and I was like, that really
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: lit the light bulb in my head. But when Anthony
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: started doing his own show from his basement, I was like,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: why don't I do something like that? And he had
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: a professional setup. He had fucking beer kegs, and he
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: had beer on tap, and he was doing karaoke with
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 3: a machine gun. With a machine gun.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, just a psychopath singing, you light up my
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: life with a fucking AR-15.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 3: But he was having a good time. And I remember
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: the radio station was trying to get him to stop
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: doing it. XM or Sirius, whoever it was, was trying
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: to get him to stop doing it. And he was like, well, why?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: It's not radio. If anything, he's getting more people to
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 3: watch the radio show. He would do it on weekends.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: It didn't interfere with the show. It was like he
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: would just go and fuck around and.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: That was back when we were on Pal Talk, too, remember? Oh, God, yeah. Yeah,
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: the video would be on Pal Talk, because most people
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: would only be watching or listening on radio.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: But then they would broadcast live on Pal Talk, because
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 3: it was, like, so unheard of. Like, nobody was doing that.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: That was how the Anthony Weiner dick photo got out.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Really? That was from Opie and Anthony.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: That was, we had Vincent D'Onofrio in studio, and we
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: had Andrew Breepart. And, because I had met Breepart doing
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Red Eye on Fox. So they both came in and
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: we were talking and the pal talk window was open.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: And apparently I didn't like Andrew had the picture of
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: Anthony Wiener's dick. So he showed us in studio. We
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: just looked at it on the phone. I didn't, but
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: apparently Anthony held it up to the pal talk window
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: and showed them and somebody grabbed it. And that was
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: how that photo got out.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 3: Wow. Serious XM and stinky situation. I want an investigation
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: from Sirius into what the hell happened there, Breitbart says
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: after he shows an X-rated picture to shock jocks, Opie
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: and Anthony. Who then shared on Twitter without his permission.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, maybe one of the guys tweeted it too.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: But Breepark got mad at me.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: And he's like, I was friends with Jim Norton. And
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: he told this to Elliot Spitzer on his show. And
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: he goes, and he betrayed me. But I really didn't.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: It wasn't me.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I was doing Tom Papa's fucking podcast.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: So he thought you did it. He thought I set
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: him up.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: But I really didn't.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: And I saw him years later in L.A. And I
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: explained it to him.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 3: And he was very cool.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I was happy because right before he died. So I
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: always liked him. I was happy that we at least
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: I get to tell him that, dude, it wasn't me
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: Did they whack him? Did they whack Andrew Brevard?
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: No, because they would have crashed the site. I mean,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: he was doing coke, right?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it an overdose or something? I think he had
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: a heart attack.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was a heart attack.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: I thought it was.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: I'm just starting rumors.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: He was doing coke, right? I don't remember. I mean,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: maybe he was doing coke, but I think it was
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: a heart attack.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, it might have been.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 3: I think there was a lot of suspicion that he
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: might have got whacked. Really? Because, yeah, he was one
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: of those guys that was, you know, exposing a lot
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: of shit.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they didn't crash the site. Did the site
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: change after he was gone?
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: They weren't wearing headphones.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: God damn it.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: It's just so natural. You just put them on.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: No wonder I was enjoying myself so much.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 3: We did when Liberace winks at me. Liberace got you
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: to wear headphones. He sure did. I just noticed that
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: you were wearing them. Yeah, I didn't notice.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: Either.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: But when Liberace winks, you have to hear it in
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: both ears.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some speculation that he got whacked. But
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 3: whenever anybody dies, there's speculation they got whacked. Yeah. I
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 3: didn't know that. Yeah.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: But I felt bad about that.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: Collapsed on the street near his home.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: Collapsed on the street near his home?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 7: Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: Focal coronary arthrosclerosis. Died from congestive heart failure, which had
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 3: been diagnosed the year before. Oh, so he had a
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: heart attack. Okay.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, when you're running a site like that,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, imagine the stress. It's constant. Yeah. And then,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: you know, you're also like your business is exposing people
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: politically and opening up yourself to potential assassination.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Well, who do you think put up the Opie and
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Anthony homeless Charlie audio?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, he did?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: It was Andrew Breitbart. It was before I knew him.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: But that's where it went up on Breitbart. And the
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: headline was.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: Will this crash.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Will this stop the merger between Sirius and XM?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: So that was why they reacted because they were afraid.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: I think people in regular radio wanted to stop that merger.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, 100%. So they- Radio was terrified of Sirius XM.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: They were terrified of it.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: So I think they pushed that story hoping that it
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: would fucking tank the merger, which of course it did not.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: You remember those days when you first went over there?
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: It was so crazy because we could talk like we
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: would talk in the green room. Yeah. We could swear.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: We'd call someone a cunt. You could say anything you want.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: It was crazy.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing that's serious. Even though I
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: didn't like the way my time there ended, I wish
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: that was handled a little bit better. But I guess
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: everybody who leaves a gig wishes things were handled differently.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: They never once fucked with me about content. I'll say
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: that for them. They never came to me and goes, hey, man,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: that thing you talked about, could you not? Could you
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: back off? Even long into where everybody was getting canceled
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: and in trouble, Sirius never came and asked me not
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: to say something. Jim McClure, who ran the channel, never
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: broke my balls about jokes we did or a stance
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: we would take. They kind of let that go.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: Well, they had a crazy situation where you knew that
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: one person was getting insane amounts of money, Howard Stern,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: and everybody else was getting very little. It was real weird.
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: It was because it was very open that Howard was
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: getting all that money, which obviously he was the reason
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: why everybody went over there in the first place.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: I get it. It was serious.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: And we were at XM and he was at Sirius
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: and that was the giant get was Howard going over.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: Also, there's also the thing that if he leaves, the
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 3: stock collapses, especially now. Yeah. You know, I mean, if
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: you don't have Howard Stern anymore, what do you got?
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: What do you have that's not available for free? Yeah.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: I sold my serious stock. So whatever happens, I did.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: I was happy. It spiked up to like seven and
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: I fucking dumped.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 3: Were you allowed to sell while you were working there?
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: Did you have to wait till you weren't working there?
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: Nobody cared. Nobody asked. They didn't give me stock. Did
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: they give you stock or you bought it? No, I
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: bought it.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: I bought it years before when I thought they're going
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: to go bankrupt. We bought a little bit, but I was,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: that's when I talked about the lawsuits when I was
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: getting sued. So I didn't buy as much cause I
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: was paying for fucking lawyers. But yeah, they tried to
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: cut me like an unreasonable amount. And so we were
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: still negotiating and then they just go, Oh yeah, we're
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: not going to renew. They waited until Christmas break and
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: they were like, we're not going to renew this.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I guess I get why they did that.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: But it's got to be weird when you're over there
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: and you know that Stern is getting hundreds of millions
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: of dollars. And everybody else is like, you know, they're
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: just pinching pennies with people.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: I never minded that and really didn't care because... I
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: only cared about what I was getting. And when I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: saw what they gave certain podcasters that went over there,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, they do have the money. So if
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: they're choosing not to give it to me, I have
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: to just accept that. Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: Like I never knew what Opie and Anthony made.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I still, to this day, don't know what their salary was.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: I never asked. That's great. Begrudge those guys.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: I never gave a fuck. Like, you know, they were
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: the brand Opie, Anthony. It was like, they took me in.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: So I never care what they got. I never felt
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: entitled to their money. And I never asked what they made.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: Even when me and Opie did a show, I never said,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: what's he making? Like they gave me a raise, but
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I don't look at money like that. Like
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: where I have to know what you're making. Cause it's like, yeah,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: that's not my, that's good. That's a healthy way to
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: look at it.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: So whatever Howard made, I'm sure some of it was inflated,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: but like, Oh, he made a lot of fucking, he did.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: He made a lot of fucking money. But, but again,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: if he's not there, how are you selling it? If
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: he's not there, what are you selling that's not available
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: for free everywhere?
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: That's why I was bummed about the way it happened.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, because we did a talk show. Maybe they
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: were just like, eh, we can put more money into
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: the rest of the channel if Jim goes.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 3: Whatever, I'm glad.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a podcast. I haven't noticed any change in
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: my life, which is great because I'm on the road
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: more making, you know, I'm making money on the road.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: But it's weird not having it.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: It's weird not knowing that it's there.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right. Yeah.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: It hasn't affected anything. But the knowledge that that income
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: was gonna be there is gone, so it's kind of
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: a weird, naked feeling.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 3: Does it make you more motivated to do stuff, though?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: To get your own thing going on?
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I'm on the road more now. I'm doing extra road work.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: And the special was one of those things where I
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: wanted to do one anyway, but I shot it in November.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: And before we even came back from break, I had
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: my channel set up.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: I had already started doing episodes.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck this. I'm not sitting and waiting.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: It's not going to take me a year. I'm just
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: going to get up. And if it takes me a
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 1: year to get moving, fine. But I'm going to start now.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: What is Sam doing these days? He's doing a show.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: They gave him the show.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, so he still has the show and they got
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 3: rid of you. Yes. Whoa.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I kind of saw that coming.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I almost.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: Cause they had cut me the year before a little bit,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: but again, I'm not unreasonable. I'm not a fucking idiot.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: People take cuts.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, they cut your money. Yes. By 10%.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know what? It's still good money.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: My wife had just come to the States. I'm like,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I have money for lawyers, whatever.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: And then I told my manager, they're going to cut
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: me by this much guaranteed. And they almost to the
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: dollar offer be what I predicted. So we pushed back
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: and tried to negotiate and they were acting like they
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: were negotiating. And then The day of Christmas break, like
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: when we were off the air for two weeks, I
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: got the call like, yeah, we're not going to. So
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: they were just kind of, I think, keeping it going
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: until that. But I don't have any bad, I truly don't.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Like they bought me two apartments. I had a great
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: life there. I fucking, I broadcasted for 20 years. It's
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: time to move on anyway.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I was telling you a long time ago
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: that you could be doing better on the internet anyway
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: by your own.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: I think you... I remember you talking to me, I mean, 2017,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: around even before then about podcast... I wasn't allowed to
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: podcast because of my contract. They wouldn't allow it. And
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I think that was one of the sticking points with
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: this one. I was like, I have to be able
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: to do my own podcast, especially if I'm taking a cut.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: And I'll just eat shit for a while until it
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: gets where I want it to go.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to be able to be your own
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 3: boss in this day and age. It's just, it's not...
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: And also, the... as big as serious XM was, it's
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 3: just not that anymore. You know, it's just not what
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 3: it used to be. Like if, if I didn't have
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 3: a podcast and during the Opie and Anthony days, what
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 3: it was in his height, if they offered me a show,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 3: I've been like, Whoa, okay. That would have made sense.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: But now I'd be like, what am I? What? Unless
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do kind of what Howard's done, just
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: make a ton of money and kind of like slip away,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: which is really what I kind of tried to do with,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: with Spotify is, I was hoping that Spotify was going
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: to make me like 10% less famous. That was like
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: the idea behind it. Yeah. I was like, give me money.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 3: Give me money. I don't want to be any more famous.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 3: I don't need that. I'm going to just give me
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: the money. But, you know, if, but nowadays it's like,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 3: there's just not enough people listening. And I know they
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: own Pandora now too. So they've made a bunch of
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: deals with podcasters because I think they're going to try
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: to get people to listen to Pandora and do it
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: that way. Your Stitcher. I think they do too. Stitcher. Yep.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: We used to be on Stitcher too. But that's the thing.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: It's like the Internet is just too. There's so many
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: more people that are listening to all these other platforms. Spotify, YouTube.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: It's just it's just too enormous. It's too big to ignore.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: It is. It is.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: And it's like I think that they kind of they
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: handle podcasting in a way that terrestrial radio handled satellites.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: which was, ah, you know, it's not a big deal,
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: and then get involved with it or somehow embrace it,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: but a little bit later in the game.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: A little too late.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, they have some big podcasts.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, again, I don't... They have Call Her
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: Daddy now, right? They do.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: And when I realized the money they gave her, again,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: I don't begrudge her at all. Like, whatever you make,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: you make, and it's got nothing to do with my salary.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: But I realize they do have the money.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: So if they're choosing not to, I have to just
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: fucking accept that.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 3: But you gotta wonder if that's a good idea for her.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: But she's still on Spotify, though. I don't know.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: Is she?
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, isn't she? She is, right? Yeah.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: I think she's still everywhere else too.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: Which makes it a good idea. The thing is if
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: they limit your distribution, that's what makes it a bad idea.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: Like one of the new things that we did with
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 3: this new deal with Spotify and they were actually into
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: it was put it everywhere. You know, not just be
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: on Spotify, but also go back on YouTube, back on Apple,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: back everywhere, which made me very happy. Like, it should
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: be everywhere.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: Because you want people just to stumble on it or
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: to go, I heard this thing about this thing today.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: I want to go look at it right now.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: They don't have to sign up for something, enter the
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: fucking email.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: Give you a credit card. Yeah, it's kind of silly.
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: And some people just get accustomed to using certain platforms. Like,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: for me, forever, all I listen to is Apple Podcasts.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: You know, the podcast app on Apple. It's simple. I'd
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: like download whatever the fucking shows I wanted to listen
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: to and I would get it that way. I don't
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 3: want to have to change. I don't want to have
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: to look around. It's just one of those things. People
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: get accustomed to getting things in a certain way. It's right.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: It's there. Yeah.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: It's great to see too. I don't know if Schultz,
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he does get the credit, but Dane deserves
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of credit because of the social media.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: And I think Dane, history has kind of forgotten about what,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: he did a lot to change.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: The way we promote. 100%.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: And then Schultz, That fucking thing of just turn your
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: phone this way now.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh. Like, holy shit.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: Like, it revolutionized the way comedians put out clips.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 3: And it's like, I mean. Well, what he did was do,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: he capitalized on COVID in the best possible way. He
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 3: came up with a different style. He's so smart. He
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: thought of a different style of, because there was a
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: lot of people during COVID that were doing like late
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: night talk show monologues on the internet. And they were terrible. Terrible.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 3: Because there was no audience. No audience. But what Schultz
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: did was he made up for the fact there wasn't
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: any audience with visuals and rapid fire punchlines. That's right.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 3: And he did it differently than he does his standup.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: Like his standup, he'll say something really funny and let
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: it sit. So it's even funnier. Like it builds, you know,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 3: and he'll look at you like, what? You know, it'll
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 3: hold the laugh.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: Whereas in this Netflix or in the, you know, it
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 3: was on Netflix as well, but when he was doing
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: the sideways thing, It was just rapid fire. And he's
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 3: more than a this and a that, and a that
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 3: and a this. And the photograph of the thing, and
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: you'd watch and you'd go, hilarious.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: It's different than standup.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, and everybody was sharing it. It was a genius
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: approach to a genre instead of trying to apply stand-up
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 3: style comedy and monologues to your Instagram. He did a
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: whole new thing.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and his stand-up is funny. He did something on
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: jokes that only work in Hawaii. It's in an arena,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: and he's fucking murdering the way you murder in a club.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: But it's like they're all new jokes just for Hawaii.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: And it was like, God damn, it's really funny.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 3: He does that everywhere he goes. I know. He did
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 3: that in Abu Dhabi. Or Dubai. Yeah, in Dubai. He
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: had jokes only about Dubai, about shitting on hookers. It
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: was like.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so awesome.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 3: It's my life.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: But I was happy to see somebody doing something really
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: creative as opposed to blinking their way through Chip Chipperson
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: on a fucking TBS show. We do what we have
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: to to survive.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: Don't shit on Chip. I love Chip. I love Chip too.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that that's your closet character. When
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: you put the wig on and the glasses.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: You understand it's the bane of my existence. I can't
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: do anything without being called a sock cucka and fucking
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: peck a kisser. In the live chat today, it's all Chip. Hey,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: when's Chip coming back?
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 3: Chip is back.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: It's all people love and hate Chip.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: I love Chip. I love Chip. Yeah, it's such a
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: fucking weird thing.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 3: It really is. I might do it again. I miss
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 3: doing it.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: Like when Anthony would come on, it was like the best.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: We did a few live, did three live shows with it.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: And it was fucking amazing. There were theater shows and
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: the crowd's.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: Loved it.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: It sold better than I do, which is absolutely humiliating.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: I sold tickets faster as Chip than Jim Norton. Jim Norton,
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: there's still a giant curtain. Chip fucking sold out. But
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: I do miss doing it, but I don't miss getting guests.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Now I have one podcast to do. I love doing it,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: but I still hate saying, hey, could you film like
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: I hate.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: Did you do it all yourself? Is that the way
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 3: you did it? Pretty much. Reach out to people? Yeah.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: I had my co-host. My co-host I was using most
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: recently was Zia.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 3: And she was great.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: And she would do like a lot of the behind
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: the scenes work for me. And she would, you know,
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: help reach out to people and coordinate. But I ultimately
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: had to ask. It was like one of those things
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted a comedian on. One time Nick DiPaolo came
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: on and he was sitting across and this was what
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: Chip would give us all sailor hats. And we were
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: all wearing sailor hats.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: I like how you call him Chip. I have to.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: I can't say me. I can't face it. It's like
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: Ted Bundy would talk about himself in the third person.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 7: Why?
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: Because he's not proud of it. So we had on
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: these sailor hats. I remember Nick was talking to me.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: And we were having fun. But it was the way
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: he was looking. He was looking at Jim as he
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: was talking. And he played along.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 3: But I was like, oh. That's like.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fucking, just having Nick stare at me, and
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: I knew he was seeing his friend Jim.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: With a wig on. And a wig and glasses.
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: But I do miss, it made me laugh to do it,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: but people would just be too annoying about.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, get this guy, get that guy.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: They would complain, and it's like, oh, I made zero
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: money doing it. And here's why. I didn't make it
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, because I didn't realize that I shouldn't have
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: had the word fuck in the theme song.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: Jamie Jaster from fucking hate breeds sang the theme song
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: and it was chip has a fucking, but like literally
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: that automatically fucks you for monetization.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: Right. And I had no idea.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: So all of my episodes had fuck in the first
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: five seconds. I never made any money doing a few
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks on a read here and there, but it was,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: it was a labor of love.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: It was one of those things that you can bring
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 3: it back with a new theme song.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: I could, or I did change it at one point.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 3: I changed it.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: I took fucking out.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: Change it. People love Chip.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: But gosh darn, it was like some obvious.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's even better.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: Some awful edit that went in. But it's like, when
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: am I going to do it? Where am I going
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: to do it? Once mine gets up, like mine's been
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: up for a few months.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: I love doing it.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: We do callers, which I like the live interactions. Like
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: when you do radio, it's hard to not feel like
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: anybody is listening.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: Right. In the moment. Right. And it takes you in
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: weird directions.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: Like people will call up with legit, everyone, like some
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: comics like, ah, But then as soon as somebody goes,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: what do you think about this? And they're talking about
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: wanting to commit suicide or they're talking about fucking. It
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: becomes interesting because people like everyone wants to give advice.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: Right, right, right.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 3: So I like that.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: I like knowing that something alive will take you into
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: a different direction than we would have gone in.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 3: There's something to that. Yeah. There's definitely something to that.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 3: But there's also something. It's like it becomes very chaotic
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 3: because people are calling in just to fuck with you and.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: I've surprisingly had very little of that. I mean, again,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: I'm always with coming from ONA, like nothing is too
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: much at this point because you become so used to
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: craziness and death threats. I still use a fake name
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: at the cellar because I would get death threats like that.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: There was a couple of them that actually concerned me.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: because people were using their real names. I'm like, if
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: a guy is threatening to kill you with his real
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: name attached to it, like he's fucking, he's a problem.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: What was it over?
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 1: There was one time Anthony had said something and the
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: guy thought I said it. And the guy said something
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: about I'm going to fucking kill you. I don't remember
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: what it was, but it was the tone he said it.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that feels different than anything anyone's ever said
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: to me. Plus, again, last time we talked about the
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: fucking lawyer. Um, who hadn't committed a murder at that point,
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: but I still knew he was crazy. And I would get,
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: I have a hate mail fucking file. And I used
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: to argue with them back and forth like a dummy. Um,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: but people would tell me, watch your back. I know
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 1: where you live. I'm going to shoot you. And then
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: I would see a real name sign to it. And
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that guy's mentally ill.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of those out there.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, there are a lot. So I started doing,
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 1: at the comedy cellar, I would always use names from
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: the JFK assassination. Like David Ferry was appearing. It was
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: never Oswald or Kennedy. I wasn't that on the nose.
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 3: But it was him.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: It was Clay Shaw. It was just all these weird
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: people from the Kennedy assassination.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 3: Ali Wong used to have to do that at the
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: comedy store. Because he was famous, right? Yeah, she'd get stalkers.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: There was this one crazy guy that kept showing up. But,
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 3: you know. I guess stalkers for a woman are even
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: more creepy.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: Much more terrifying for a woman. And it's like there's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: got to be a way. Like in Black Mirror, there's
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: one thing. They had a thing where you could block
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: people from seeing you. And again, it's a futuristic thing.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: But the penalty for stalking should be so fucking severe
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: because the way they allow someone to ruin someone else's life.
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that they haven't figured out something where when
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: you're convicted of stalking, you should be forced to. to
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: have something in your phone or some type of a
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: monitor bracelet that alerts the other person.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 3: It drives me crazy.
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: There's nothing I hate more than some fucking creep stalker.
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: But I guess I've dealt with it, so.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: Again, it's very creepy for women. Way more creepy for women.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: And they get a lot more of them. Yes. A
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: lot of guys get obsessed.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't get stalked. No, I'm not interesting
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 1: to stalk because I fuck you. If you want to
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: stalk me, just show up and have nice tits.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, you got me.
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 1: But I did fuck one stalker, which turned out to be.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bad move. And I was bad
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: in bed. I couldn't keep it up. It was during
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: the lawsuit. It was a really bad time for me.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: And I kind of felt bad. She thought I didn't
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: like her. But anyway, for two years, it was phone stalking.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: And it was not scary like it would be for
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: a woman.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 3: Just annoying.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: But it becomes a part of your life.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 3: This is with the old iPhones. So I would always
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: get these. I would leave L.A.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: On a red eye, and I would land, and my.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 3: iPhone would be filled with voice messages. Oh, boy.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: About, you know what, Jim, and just, you know, what
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit I was and a bad guy. So, like,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: she used to think I was talking to her on
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: the radio.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, she was schizophrenic. I don't know.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: We would talk dirty a lot. And, you know, credit
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: where it's due.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: Good dirty talk. Oh, you have no idea. The crazy
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 3: ones are the best. Fuck, they anticipate everything.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly what you need right before you get there.
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 3: Psychotic and erotic. Yeah. Real close. It really is. Because
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: it's something about the inhibitions.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: Being lowered and, you know, the cuck talk. I always
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: liked that. Not as much now because, again, I'm married,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: but I always enjoyed good cuck talk. It would always
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: make me very happy. And I get why guys wouldn't
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: like that, but it would make me fucking crazy.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: It's so weird what people like. Like the shitting on
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: the chest thing. That's bizarre. Influencers get paid to go
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: to Dubai, a lot of money, and those guys will
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: shit on them.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: Wait, they shit on the influencer or the influencer shits
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 1: on them?
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: They shit on the influencer. Really? Yeah.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 7: That.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like hot girls. Hot girls go over there and
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 3: they can make half a million dollars getting shit on
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: for a weekend.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably more than that. I mean, if you're thinking
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: about people that have insane amounts of money, you're dealing
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 3: with like oil money. These guys, like, you know, we
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 3: talk about the richest people in the world. Elon Musk
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 3: is the richest man in the world.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: Well, he's the richest public man in the world. I mean,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not insanely rich. He's worth 200
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: something billion dollars. Yeah. But that's nothing compared to these
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 3: royal families.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: These oil families, they probably have trillions. They probably have
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 3: trillions of dollars, but it's not public. They don't have
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 3: to disclose how much money they have. Whereas in America,
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 3: like wealthy people that are like on the, on the
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: legit and the up and up you, you know, everybody
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 3: knows what your net worth is.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows how much you have, but to pay somebody, see,
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: I thought you meant to get shit on, but to
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: shit on an influencer. I've seen a few tick tocks
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, I'd give her a thousand. She let
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: me take a dump on her. She was annoying. She
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: was annoying.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 3: I think that's what they do. That's great. I mean,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 3: this is, people have talked about it openly. Girls have
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 3: talked on some of those weird podcasts. Girls have talked
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: about how they go over there and they'll, they make
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 3: hundreds of thousands of dollars and you know, it's only
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 3: like 20 minutes of their time. They just lay there.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 3: Some guy shits on them. Everybody cheers.
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a group of people watching?
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of guys. Your boys are there and
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 3: you shit on her. An influencer.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: Because she probably said something you didn't like.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: Or you just want to shit on a hot girl's tits.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, that would do nothing for me. And I'm
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 3: a pervert. I think it's like a humiliation thing. They
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 3: want to humiliate people and they want to know that
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 3: they have so much money that they can get you
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 3: to submit to this willingly.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: Dude, I've seen the humiliation look every time I fuck someone.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: I just....
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: I know what that look is.
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 3: It is a fucking weird desire to want to shit
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: on somebody. It is because it's so not sexual.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: Like it's weirdly punishing or like, and again, being dirty,
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying having the fetish is wrong because I'm
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: pissed off.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: Like it's whatever.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, a lot, I've done a lot of trying
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: it and I don't even know what I liked about it.
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I liked about it. Was it
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: because it's naughty?
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 3: It was intimate and naughty. It was private. Private, intimate,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 3: and naughty.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: And I think... Well, that's... You're getting pissed on. Whereas, like,
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: if you're having someone lay there while you shit on them,
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: that is, like, just an ultimate expression of the power
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 3: of money. I suppose it is. I just don't understand
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 3: the desire.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: There's like, there's so many things I would love to
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: do if people would let me do them for money,
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: but not shit on them. Like that would just be
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: so like, my shits are horrendous.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 3: Like I'd be embarrassed. And I know, and you want
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 3: to make sure you get shit at the proper time.
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: Cause you can't really time your shits.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 1: No, but again, if you have enough money to bring
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: her over and shit on her, you have enough money
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: to keep her on hold.
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 3: She's not going to tell you I'm busy. I'm drinking coffee.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: I'm having a cold, bro.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 3: I'm smoking cigarettes, drinking coffee, brewing up a good one
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 3: for you. I have not heard that.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: I know that people get sent over there and they fuck.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: I actually want to go to Dubai. It's one of
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: the few places. Have you been to the Burj?
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't been to that, but I've been to Dubai.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: I was in Dubai once because they had the weigh-ins
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 3: there for the UFC. And it's like everywhere you look,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: it's like Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Lamborghini. The amount of money
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 3: there was preposterous. And this was quite a long time ago.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 3: This was like 2007, I believe.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: That's probably before the Burj was built.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: Was the Burj built? I don't think it was. I
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 3: don't think it was. No, I don't think it was there.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: So what I had seen is just like what was
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: there then. And just the obscene amount of wealth. I mean,
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: it's really shocking.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: I wanna go just to, I'm afraid of heights, so
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: I wanna go into that observation deck on top. The
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: one that Tom Cruise.
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 3: How many floors is it?
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: I wanna say it's like 120 or something. It's crazy.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: It's 3,000 feet, the tower. I think it's the tallest
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: structure in the world. And there's a few people who
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: have sat in that. You ever see that picture of
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise? Who is batshit crazy. Like he actually jumped
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: out the window of that thing for real. Do you
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: ever see footage of him training for that Mission Impossible?
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 3: He jumped out the window?
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: He jumped out the window strapped in. And I've seen
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: footage of him like taken by people on the observation
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: deck of Tom Cruise hanging out on the outside of
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: the Burj Tower. And there's a picture of him sitting
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: on the very, very top. It's 3,000 feet. And his
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: feet are just hanging off in a helicopter position. It's circling.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: He was the first guy to do it.
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 3: He's not harnessed or anything?
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: He's probably harnessed on his back somehow.
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: What is this, for a Mission Impossible movie?
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: One of the Mission Impossibles, but yeah, that's... Oh, my God.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 3: But he actually... It's like he's in space. Oh, my God.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 3: Look how tall that is. He's running.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: It's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 3: He's a fucking maniac. He is. The fact that he's
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: still doing these stunts and he's 62 years old. Do
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 3: you see what he did in the last Mission Impossible?
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: He jumped in a flaming parachute, ripped the parachute off,
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 3: and then opened up the second parachute.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I mean, there's no backup parachute for
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: the second parachute. He's doing this for a movie. I've
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 3: never met Tom Cruise.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: If I ever met him, all I want to ask
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: him is, how do you get insurance companies to agree
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: to let you do this? I can't imagine. He was
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 1: running down the face of the town. And some of
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: it was shot in CGI, but that's legit. Like, that
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: was real.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here it is. Look at this. So he jumps
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: out in a flaming parachute. And this is all planned out.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, they douse the parachute with gasoline, jumps, they
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: light it on fire. Look at that.
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 7: Oh, wow. He did it 16 times.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: 16 times? Oh, my God. So he has to cut
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 3: it loose, and then he has to open up his
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 3: secondary parachute.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: You wonder, is there a kill switch? Like, if you
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: push a clamp and you can't get the clamp open.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 3: No, he's fucked. Like, if he can't cut loose, he's fucked.
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 3: And if his second parachute doesn't work, he's double fucked.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 7: I heard him say he figures out something crazy he
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 7: hasn't done and then just goes through all the processes
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 7: of how do you learn how to do this.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he learned how to fly helicopters for one of
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: the stunts. One of the stunts where they're bombing through
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: the canyons. He was actually flying the helicopter. He wanted
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: to make it really obvious that it was him flying
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: that helicopter.
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 1: I've seen him talk about being on the side of
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: the plane that took off when he was hanging off
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: the plane.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: But you wonder, like, what is it in you that, like,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: what kind of a rush when you're not working? What
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: do you do to, think about, like, fucking Cowboy Serrano
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: will fly a plane and then cut the engine and
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: fall because he's fucking crazy and he needs dopamine.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: What do you do to match this in your real life?
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 3: This is the new one, the new plane thing. He's
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: done a couple of different plane ones. This is just
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 3: one of them. Oh, you see the string there, yeah. Yeah,
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 3: but they edited all that in the movie, right?
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 7: What if the string breaks?
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what if the string breaks? That's right. You can
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 3: only have so much faith, right? Also, what if he
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: gets hit by a bird right here and gets KO'd?
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 3: Or falls back and bangs his head on the side
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 3: of the... This is a thing that's only for these
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: Mission Impossible movies. But by the way, he's been doing
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 3: these Mission Impossible movies forever. Yes. I was listening to
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 3: an EPMD song the other day. And in the thing,
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 3: it's like, Mission Impossible, not Tom Cruise. There was joking
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 3: around about Tom Cruise being in Mission Impossible in an
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 3: EPMD song. From like, what year was that? Oh, EPMD,
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 3: you know what I was thinking? EPMD, the rappers. 97.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 7: 97.
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 3: Do I not know them? That was his first Mission
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: Impossible movie?
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's when the lyric came out. The song's
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 7: called The Joint. That's where it's in, I guess.
• 2:15:30
  Speaker 3: What year was the first Tom Cruise Mission Impossible movie?
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 7: Probably the same time. Maybe even 96, 95 if they
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 7: were writing about it.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 3: Wow. That's wild. That is wild. So he's been basically
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 3: doing Mission Impossible for 30 years. He's 62 now.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 3: Crazy. But he doesn't do that in the other movies
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 3: he does. Well, some of them. Does he? Does he
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 3: do crazy stunts in all of his movies? What about that?
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 7: You mean the one, the Live, Die, Repeat?
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Was he doing stunts in those?
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know exactly how many of them
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 7: he did, but he did the Jack Reacher thing. I
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 7: was trying to think of two, yeah.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: And he also broke his ankle. He was jumping from
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: one building to another. And destroyed his ankle. But he
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: actually fucking limped and tried to finish the shot.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 3: He finished the shot.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: It's insane. You can see his ankle collapse when he
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 3: hits the wall. Yeah, he's a fucking nut, man. Like
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 3: a real nut.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: It's like when you look, but you ever watch old
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: Buster Keaton footage?
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: The crazy shit that he would do, the train or
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: the building falling.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 3: How many Mission Impossible movies are there?
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 7: I think there's 11.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: Is there 11?
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like seven or eight.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 7: Seven, yeah.
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 3: Seven? Yeah. So, and it all started in 96? Is
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 3: that what you said?
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, that guy's been in some fucking banger movies.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: Scientology works for some people.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that he wants to do... All of his
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: own stuff. The Firm I just re-watched.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 3: It's funny. I hated the music in The Firm so
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: much it took me out of it.
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: But that's a pretty... That's a great film. Gene Hackman
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: was great in that.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: What a shame he died, man. He's one guy I
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: never met that I wanted to meet.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 3: Gene Hackman. Yeah, I would have liked to have met him, too. Oh,
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: is he fucking... He died bad, though. Oof. He did.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: But he died kind of the way you want to die, just.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: Alone and home. Well, his wife died first, they think? Yes.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: He had dementia, I think.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: So I don't even know if he knew she was dead.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: They say he might have just been wandering.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: Maybe he just... Oh, boy. Wandered around hungry. Oh, boy.
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 3: Doesn't matter who you are. Oof, yeah. When your body
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 3: stops working, it doesn't matter how many fucking people love you.
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 3: It's over.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: Brando was like that. Like, I love... Because he was
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: just so difficult. Like, you've got to love a guy
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: who's so good at something that people tolerate it.
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 3: He was such a nut. He bought an island and
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: moved there. I just.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 1: would never acknowledge being a good actor. I was in
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: an interview with Connie Chong and she's like, you're a
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: great actor. And his dog is there. He goes, he's
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: a better actor. He acts like he loves me because
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: he wants food. I'm like, what a great fucking actor.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: what a great what a great what a great but
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: he meant it like you knew he wasn't like some
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: fucking douchey poser like he was really this guy.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 3: Well that's why he was so good But he was
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 3: also good before anybody was good. He was the first
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 3: actor that was acting like a real person in movies.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: Whereas every other actor was like, hey, stay away from
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: my girl, see?
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: I can't watch old stuff.
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: And look, I'll acknowledge, I stink. I know, I stink.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: So I can't judge other people. I'm not going to
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: judge James Cagney or fucking Humphrey.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 3: Cagney's a good example.
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: But you watch them, and you're like, they were so
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: Victor Mature-ish.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 3: Tommy, why don't you cut it out, Tommy? Yeah.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: And then you see Brando, I can't watch the old stuff.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: It's just theater acting or something.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 1: On film.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 3: He was the first guy that figured out how to
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 3: be real in a film. And James Dean did it
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 3: And then a bunch of other people. And now, you know,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that do it. But nobody
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: had figured it out. But again, it goes back to
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: that thing where this was a completely new medium. Right?
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 3: It didn't really exist before him. You know, he was
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: like one of the very first... movie stars that figured
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 3: out how to do it correctly but there weren't a
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 3: lot of it wasn't a long history of movie stars
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 3: it was a fairly new.
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: Thing yes and I've seen footage of his screen test
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: for Streetcar Named Desire and like Stanley walks into the
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: kitchen and he's just talking and he's talking to Stella
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: it might have been Stella and he's just moving and
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: grabbing stuff and you're watching him and you're like I
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: would never have the confidence to just touch and behave can.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: You find that screen test from Streetcar Named Desire Is
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: that it right there? Hey, let's listen.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 3: Headphones again, Jim. Yes.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 1: And this is even different to what I was thinking.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: The one I was thinking was in the kitchen. Maybe
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: it's part of the same one. Here he's just putting
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 1: a cigarette out in a fucking bottle.
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 3: No, hold on. Go back to that.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:19:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, so this is actually real footage, though.
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is different than the one, but it's
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: interesting to see.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 3: These are outtakes.
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, stop!
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 3: You can hear the camera.
• 2:20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 3: But even the way she's looking at him looks old
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: school compared to what he's doing. Right.
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: She's looking at him in a very strange way that
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel real. It feels like she knows she's
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 3: in a movie. Yeah. He was a good looking guy
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 3: back then too.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, he was a fucking, what a pussy machine. He
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: fucked them all too.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: And then he just, he didn't like the fact that
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 3: he's good looking. So he became a blimp.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: Just ate ice cream. How do you not love that guy?
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 3: He got so big during Apocalypse Now, they had to
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 3: film in the shadows.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: And he wouldn't acknowledge that because they were trying to
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: make it like Kurtz had gotten fat and like was
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 1: living the life of, and he wouldn't do it.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: Just sat there in the shadows.
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: What a fucking nut. But you know, again, it's just,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of people like that. I mean,
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: how do you not go crazy? He's the only guy.
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: And I can't watch Shakespeare. I mean, I know he
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: was the greatest. I just can't watch him. And I
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: watched him doing, I think he played Mark Anthony or
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 1: Julius Caesar. And watching him do Shakespeare, you felt like
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: he's really saying these, like, you know what I mean?
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 3: It always feels so British, you know? What's hot for
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 3: a window break?
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel connected to the person.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: And I watched him. I'm like, this is like a
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: real guy actually saying this.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 1: So he's the only person I've ever been able to
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: watch do Shakespeare.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's an art. There's a real art to acting.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 3: It's just done badly so often that we hate most actors.
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's hard to do. And again, there's very
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: few things I give myself credit for, but I do
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 1: give myself credit for recognizing my limitations in that area.
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: It's been easy to recognize when people have pointed it out,
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: but I understand it.
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 3: It's also not an area that you're really concentrated on,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 3: nor were you drawn to it, right? So when you're
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 3: doing it, you're like, how am I doing this? It's
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: like if you get Tom Hanks to do stand-up. And
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 3: when he did Punchline, it was fucking terrible. It was why?
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 3: Because he wasn't really doing stand-up. You know, he's an actor.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: But if you wanted to be an actor, if that
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 3: was your thing, you'd probably be great at it.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: Do you know who I saw that was shooting some
• 2:22:42
  Speaker 1: of the Will Arnett? I think Bradley Cooper just directed
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: a movie at the Comedy Cellar.
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 3: Is that him doing Shakespeare?
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's 29 years old here.
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 3: He's 29? He's 29 and 53.
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: The noble brutus hath told you Caesar was ambitious. If
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 2: it was so, it was a grievous fault. And grievously
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 2: hath Caesar answered it. Here on the leave of Brutus
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 2: and the rest... For Brutus is an honorable man. So
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 2: are they all, all honorable men. Come I to speak
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: in Caesar's funeral. He was my friend, faithful and just
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: to me. But Brutus says he was ambitious. And Brutus
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: is an honorable man. He hath brought many captives home
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 2: to Rome, whose ransoms did the general coffers fill. Did
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: this Caesar seem ambitious? When did the poor have cried,
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 2: Caesar hath wept? Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, and Brutus is an
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: honorable man. You all did see that on the loop
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: of Calais, Thrace presented him a kingly crown, which he
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: did Thrace refuse. Was this ambition? Yet Bruder says he
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: was ambitious and sure he is an honorable man.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 3: I still don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Yeah,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know either, but I believe him. It's powerful. Yeah,
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 3: he's locked in. He's locked in, man.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: And he's really, he understands what he's saying.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He understands the words. Right. And he's living the words.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 3: It's in his head. He believes it when he's saying it.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 3: And that's like the Daniel Day-Lewis thing.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: When he's playing that crazy guy in There Will Be Blood.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 3: He believes it. I drank your milk. Like it's real. Well,
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: when he's in, he's locked in.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: Craziest part of that movie is when he's sitting there
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: with the kid and he's petting the boy's head. At
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 1: one point, it was supposed to be his son. And
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, as an actor, to touch a kid, like
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: even though you're acting. He was petting this boy like
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: the way you would pet your son. It was like
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 1: he's so comfortable and so in this that you really
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: believe this is his son. That stuck out for me,
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 1: like the level of comfort you need on a set
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: to do that. Because I've been on a set with
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 1: a kid there. Everybody's like, make sure you don't curse.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: And this guy didn't give a fuck. He just picks
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: the kid up and starts petting his head.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 3: Boy, he's got to be that guy. And he's a
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 3: method guy, so he'd be that guy for months. Have
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 3: you met him?
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't either.
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 1: Gary Oldman I like a lot, which is not exactly
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: a stretch. Gary Oldman I think is one of the
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 1: most versatile.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 3: Have you seen Slow Horses?
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 3: It's the Apple show. It's really good. What is it?
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 3: It's a spy show. He plays a spy. Oldman or
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 3: Daniel Day-Lewis?
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 2: Oldman.
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: It's a new show. Oh, no. It's really good.
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched anything on Apple. I tried to watch
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: The Morning Show, but I didn't love it.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 3: Did you see Severance? Severance is great. Season one I loved. Yeah,
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: season two got a little weird.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: It almost got a little weird like the way Lost
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 1: did where they were doing things to serve the kind
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: of show that they were. Right. But I'm like, what
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: does this mean? Like this is just crazy and weird,
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 1: but they're just doing it like to be– again, I
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: watched it and I probably will watch season three.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 3: But season one I liked more. Yeah, season one was better.
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 3: I think there's some shows like that where the concept
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 3: is so out there. It really has like a finite
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: amount of time where you're allowed to like maintain that. Yes.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: And then it just becomes, we have to get to season, again,
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, Lost.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lost is the best example. Because first season, it
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 3: was fucking great. It was.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: And the backstory telling, like I look at the writing
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 1: in that. And again, it was TV. They only had
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of leeway they could do. Their backstory
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: stuff was great. The writing on, you know, John Locke
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: and on Kate and all these people. The way they
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: would tie in their backstories, I thought was brilliant. But
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: then the way they ended, I was like, Everyone complained
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: about it, but I'm like, they missed what they should
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: have done.
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 3: You know what's a great fucking story? Or a great show, rather? Mobland.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 3: Have you seen Mobland on Paramount? Who is.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 1: Somebody... It was either Colin or Bobby was recommending Mobland.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 3: It's fucking great. Is it? It's fucking great. It's a
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 3: Guy Ritchie show. It's fucking great. Who was... Tom Hardy. Ah.
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 3: Pierce Bronson plays the old mobster. He's fucking amazing in it.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 3: You know, you think of Pierce Brosnan, you think like
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 3: kind of a campy James Bond.
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 3: Not in this fucking movie.
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 3: He plays a maniac, like a stone-cold maniac, and it's great.
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 3: Did you see footage of Tom Hardy?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: I just saw footage of him submitting someone.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he's good. He's a black belt, right? No, no, no,
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 3: he's not a black belt. Oh, he's not? I think
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 3: he might be a purple belt. Is he a purple
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 3: belt or is he a blue belt? He competes, though.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 3: I just saw footage of him. But he's all fucked
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 3: up now. His neck's fucked up. His knees are fucked up.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 3: Purple belt.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 7: Oh, okay.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 3: Purple belt. He's legit, man. Yeah. He's legit. I've watched
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 3: him compete. Yeah, I was like, okay. And like Zuckerberg.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 3: Zuckerberg's legit. He's real. He gets in tournaments. He's very
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 3: competitive guy I've seen footage of him for a guy
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 3: who's worth 200 billion dollars it's kind of crazy to
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 3: enter into a local jujitsu match and you know risk
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: getting spiked on your head by a plumber you know
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: Some fucking, some plumber who's also a blue belt fucking,
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 3: you know, suplexes you on your skull.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: And he recognizes you and his fucking account just got banned.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been posting QAnon memes.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: And then he sees you and he thinks it's destiny.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 3: And by the way, he wore a mask up until
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 3: the time he's about to compete. So they don't know
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: they're going to compete with Zuckerberg until he's in there
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 3: with them. which is really, it's kind of a huge
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 3: disadvantage to the opponent. They're like, what? Because especially if
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 3: you've never been around a famous person before, and now
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden you have, and you're also an
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 3: amateur because he's an amateur. So you're all like, what?
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 3: You're probably like blown away. Maybe the first time you've
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 3: ever competed too, and you're competing against Zuckerberg.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: But I think he's a blue belt too, right?
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 3: I believe so. What belt is Zuckerberg? Zuckerberg brings in
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 3: legit people though. Like, he trains with very, very legit people.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 1: Volkanovski, I know, was training with him. I know he's
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: around Alex.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 3: Pereira a lot. Stylebender, yeah, Pereira. Yeah, he brings in, like,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: Dave Camarillo, who's a top-level Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. He
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 3: brings him him. Blue belt, yeah. He's legit, man.
• 2:28:57
  Speaker 1: He blew his knee, too, right?
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 3: Yep, tore his ACL. He wound up getting, I try
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 3: to talk him out of the type of surgery that
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 3: he got. He got the difficult surgery, which is a
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 3: patella tendon graft surgery. I've had both my ACLs reconstructed
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 3: and my left one was a patella tendon graft. My
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 3: right one was a cadaver. And the cadaver was so
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 3: much easier to recover from. And I told him, I'm like, dude,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 3: get the cadaver. Trust me. And his doctor wanted to
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 3: do the patella tendon. He wound up doing that. It's
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 3: a long rehab with the patella tendon. But, you know,
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 3: the fact that he blew his knee apart and still
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 3: kept training is pretty impressive as well. Yeah.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm in that place, too, like where I have inflammation.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get healthy. Like I've been seeing
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: some guy. I don't know if I need surgery, but
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: I'm getting MRIs, getting insurance to approve MRIs. It's a
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: fucking nightmare. But I want to get my ankle, my hip,
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: my knee.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 3: I'm all fucked up. What's wrong?
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: I've been fucked up for years. I've had like my
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: leg goes numb. My right leg was going numb in
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: my thigh.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 3: Did you ever get your back looked at? I did.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: Again, I'm trying to get approval for the MRI for that,
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: but I twisted my ankle very badly a few times.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 3: How long are you in town for? I'm supposed to
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 3: come home tomorrow. Okay. What time tomorrow? When's your flight?
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 3: First thing. First flight.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 3: I might be able to get you into Ways to
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 3: Well this afternoon. Ways to Well is the local stem
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 3: cell clinic. They'll shoot you up with stem cells. That'll
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 3: fucking help everything, man. Does it help? Oh, tremendously. Tremendously.
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: Where do they shoot them?
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 3: Tremendously. Right in the injury.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: I got back.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 3: I'm a fuck it.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 1: But I feel better now. I've been doing these stretches
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: that my physical therapist recommended. And I'm going to someone
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: who gave me some anti-inflammatory pills for a week. And
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: I feel a tremendous difference.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 3: Be careful with those. What do they do? Well, it
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 3: depends on what you're taking. If you're taking a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory,
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 3: they're terrible for your gut. your gut biome. It destroys
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 3: your gut biome. It could be really bad. It can
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 3: actually make inflammation. Like my friend, Cam Haynes, he was
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 3: taking 800 milligrams of ibuprofen every day. And I talked
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 3: to him about it. I go, what are you doing? What?
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 3: And then I sent him some stuff that Rhonda Patrick
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 3: had put out about it. I'm like, dude, get off
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 3: of that. He got off of it. All of his
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 3: pain went away. The inflammation was being caused by the
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 3: fact that he was taking so much ibuprofen. It was
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 3: ruining his gut biome. So it was creating inflammation. So
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: to combat that inflammation, he was taking ibuprofen. And he
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 3: thought the only way he was going to be able
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: to run the miles that he was running was to
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 3: constantly chew on ibuprofen. So he got off of it entirely.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 3: All the pain went away. Totally counterintuitive.
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 3: I've only been on these.
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: He said one week is all. He goes, I only
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: want you to take them for a week.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: What is it? I don't remember.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: But he goes, I just want to see if it...
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 1: He's trying to see how severe the injury is. I
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 1: want to see if this does help at all. But
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: he goes, take them for... He gave them to me
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: for a month. He goes, don't take them for more
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 1: than a week. So I like the fact that he's
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: showing restraint.
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 3: He's like... Well, the thing is, doctors have a limited
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 3: amount of tools. If you want to prescribe medication to somebody,
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever the... you know, whatever the common practice is,
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 3: is what that doctor has to adhere to. They can't
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 3: step out of line. And the reality is a lot
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 3: of that stuff has side effects, but there's natural ways
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 3: that you could deal with inflammation, like curcumin, turmeric. There's
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 3: a lot of different, you know, that stuff that helps
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 3: a lot. That's legit. And it's not bad for you,
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 3: but a lot of inflammation comes from diet. A lot
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 3: of it, a big factor. Like, I remember I talked
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 3: to this lady and who was a physical therapist and
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 3: I had a neck issue. And she was like, you'd
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 3: kind of be amazed if you cut out all the
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 3: inflammatory foods in your diet, how much it would affect it.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 3: I'm like, really? She's like, yeah, I mean, you probably
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 3: do have a neck injury, but I guarantee it's exacerbated
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 3: by the foods you're eating. She said, cut out bread,
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 3: Cut out sugar and see if it has an effect.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I've tried to because I fattened up and
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: I know it. Like, I put weight on. And again,
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: for me, it was a dopamine thing. I'm not doing
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: the things I used to do.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 3: Right. So you need something to do that's just like,
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 3: give me a sandwich. Something. You know what I'm going
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 3: to do on the road? I'll have a pretzel. Right.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: That's my bane of my existence, a fucking pretzel. Like,
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: it really is. It's not like I'm eating pizza. I'm
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: not eating cake.
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 3: All that shit is terrible.
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: Sourdough pretzels.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 3: All that shit. Our bread is fucked. And our bread
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 3: is so fucked. If you go in, I'm sure you've
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 3: been overseas. You go, go eat bread in Italy. You
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 3: don't feel bad at all. No, you're not. It's not
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 3: as bad. We're fucking poison. Also, I'll play this thing. Cause, uh,
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 3: Brian Simpson sent me this and it's very good. Hold
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 3: on a second. Here, let me show you right here. Um,
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 3: but it's all about bread. Brian Simpson sent me this
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 3: and he's like, I think I'm done with bread. And
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh my God, like this is kind
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 3: of crazy. Um, Do I need my glasses? No, no, no.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 3: I'll put it up on the screen. I'm going to
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 3: find it, though, because he sent it to me. Here
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 3: it is. Copy. Sent it to Jamie. Here it is.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 3: It won't matter if there's World War III, but if
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 3: there's not World War III, I'll probably stay away from bread.
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 3: American bread. You mean eat sourdough bread. Sourdough bread is
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 3: fucking great for you, but play this from the beginning
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 3: so we could This guy's going to explain what's wrong
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 3: with American bread.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 5: Explain to me why I can eat bread in Spain
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 5: and in Greece, Italy.
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 3: No problem.
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 5: I was gluten-free in 15 years. I've been gluten-free in.
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 3: Canada, America.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 2: Can't eat it.
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 9: That's because in America, what we call bread can't even
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 9: be considered food in parts of Europe. See, here in America,
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 9: it's not so much the gluten as what we've done
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 9: to the grain. About 200 years ago, we started stripping
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 9: the bran and germ, or the fiber and nutrients, to
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 9: make flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead. Because the nutrients
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 9: were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 9: large majority of the population can't even metabolize, therefore many
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 9: people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation. But then the
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 9: bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with chlorine gas,
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 9: and the bread didn't rise enough, so they added a
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 9: carcinogen called potassium bromate, which is banned in several countries
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 9: like Europe, the UK, and even China. Then we wanted
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 9: to ramp up production, so we started using glyphosate to
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 9: dry out the weed before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 9: damaging your gut. So now you're bloated, brain fogged, tired,
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 9: and blame gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat. The
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 9: real issue is ultra-processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin-filled
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 9: weed soaked in glyphosate.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 3: This isn't bread. This is. Who is that dude? What's
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 3: his name? Danny Durer? Click on his so we can
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 3: give that guy some props. Dennis Echelberger. Echelbarger. Echelbarger. Danny, Danny,
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 3: D-N-N-Y underscore D-U-R-E on Twitter and Instagram.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: Do you know, I will never, as I'm watching him
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: do that, I will never be able to do anything
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: into camera as well as he just described how shitty
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: bread is. Like I was watching him doing like he's
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: getting all the words proper and he's fucking, he's giving
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 1: the information, he's not blinking, he's not twitching, he's just.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 3: He's not annoying.
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: He's not annoying, yeah. He's just giving it to you.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: Perfect delivery.
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 3: But that should be something that everybody should see. When
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 3: I know that when I cut that stuff out of
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 3: my diet, it makes a giant difference. Also, I should
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 3: say Joe DeRosa, who has this amazing sub shop in
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 3: New York. And he's gonna open up one out here
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 3: in Austin. Oh, nice. Joey Rose's, fantastic sub shop. Their
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 3: wheat is all flown from Italy. It's all like natural wheat.
• 2:36:20
  Speaker 3: And so their bread doesn't fuck with you. And they
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 3: make it fresh every day and they throw it out
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day. You never have day
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 3: old bread. It's always fresh and they bake it there.
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 3: So it's like when he's getting bread for his sandwiches,
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 3: it's the kind of bread that you get in Europe.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: Do you know, I think, I have to think you're
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: right because there was one time we had DeRosa on
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: the show. It was the morning show and he didn't
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: bring us any sandwiches. I'm like, wait, where's the fucking sandwiches, Joe?
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 3: How about a sandwich? He couldn't.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: And I was like, fuck him. Cause then he did
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: chip and he brought in sandwiches, but we taped in
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: the afternoon and I'm like, he was telling the truth.
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: DeRosa was telling the truth about his bread.
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. When they, they had a pop-up out here at
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 3: South by Southwest and he brought over sandwiches and They're fantastic.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 3: They are very good. Unbelievably good. That is my number one.
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 3: If I have a vice, it is Italian food. My
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 3: big vice is Italian sandwiches, Italian subs, pasta, lasagna. That
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 3: stuff gets me. I fucking love it. But you have
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 3: to get it from a place that's using like heirloom wheat.
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 3: And you can find places. There's a lot of great
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 3: restaurants in New York. There's great restaurants in LA that
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 3: use heirloom wheat and you'll eat their pasta and you
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 3: don't feel bad. most of the bread that you're getting
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 3: in America is like what that guy described. And that's
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 3: why you feel like shit when you eat it. Yeah.
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like shit most, most of the time when I'm,
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: especially like just always tired. I finally got, I, whatever
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: it's the apnea. It's a fucking, you know, an old
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: man complaining. I just, I just, I can't breathe when
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: I sleep. It sucks.
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 3: Have you tried a carnivore diet? You ever tried that?
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 5: No.
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 1: And again, I know that my fear of eating too
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: much meat is, is probably unfounded. But no, I've done Whole30,
• 2:38:00
  Speaker 1: which actually I shed weight.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 3: What's your fear?
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: What's the fear of eating too much meat? Does cancer
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: feed on meat?
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:38:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I was always afraid of.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 3: No, cancer feeds on sugar. Okay. Yeah. That's the number
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 3: one thing that cancer oncologists will tell you if they're
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 3: trying to adjust your diet. Some don't, and it's very infuriating.
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 3: I've had family members that have cancer, and their doctor
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 3: tells them, you're going to go through chemotherapy, eat whatever
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 3: you want. Like, oh, my God, don't eat whatever you want.
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 3: Like part of what is wrong with you is your diet.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 3: It's a giant part of your overall metabolic health. But
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of oncologists now will try to get people
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 3: on a ketogenic diet because it gets your body to
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 3: burn fat instead of burning sugar. And then it starves
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 3: the cancer. They're also they'll try to get you to
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 3: do some some fasting, like intermittent fasting, like have a
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 3: window feeding where you fast for 16 hours and then
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 3: eat for eight or you can only eat during eight.
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: The keto diet. I never did it, but this is
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: what a delusional idiot I am. When I was in
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: Montreal during the pandemic, I joined Costco. And I would
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: go and eat keto chocolates. And I somehow convinced myself
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, it's keto. But I wasn't
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: doing the rest of the fucking diet. But they have
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: some actually good shit you can.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 3: Eat if you're on the keto diet.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 1: I guess you're doing it right. But I would go
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 1: there and buy all these delicious keto chocolate clusters. So yeah,
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: that one. I heard it gives you bad breath keto.
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: That was what I've heard. Again, I just, I don't
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: remember where I heard it. But they were like, there's
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 1: something about ketosis fucks your breath up.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 3: I bet it does. Yeah, I bet it does. But
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 3: just brush your fucking teeth and have a mint.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 1: Well, is it coming from the gut, though?
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it probably is. It's probably ketones. Ketones smell terrible.
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 3: Have you ever taken exogenous ketones?
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 1: I've heard of ketones. What's an exogenous ketone?
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 3: You can take exogenous ketones. It's ketones that you drink
• 2:39:49
  Speaker 3: and it puts your body into an instant state of
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 3: ketosis where your body instantly starts to burn fat. It
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 3: actually is really good mentally. I take exogenous ketones sometimes
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 3: when I have to perform. where I have to do something.
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 3: So I've taken them before UFCs too. UFCs are like
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 3: the big mind fuck for me because it's six hours
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 3: of thinking. And I have to think about previous fights.
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 3: I have to like predict techniques. I have to see
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 3: what's going on. And then when it goes to the ground,
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like my job is to explain particular
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 3: submissions when it goes to the ground, especially in the
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 3: early days before I did it with DC. Because I
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 3: was the only, like when it was me and Goldberg,
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 3: Goldberg's not really a martial artist. So it was just me.
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 3: So I would have to go like explain why someone's
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 3: in trouble and what's going to happen to someone who
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't understand like a triangle or something like that when
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 3: someone goes to the ground. And you need brain fuel.
• 2:40:42
  Speaker 3: And so ketones help a lot. Another thing is like
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 3: I eat these gummies. These are gummies now, alpha brain gummies.
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 3: But I always take some type of nootropic neuro gum
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: or this neuro gum has mints too. I'll take these mints.
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 3: Like if you see me at the UFC, I'll have those.
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 3: I take these little nicotine pouches. What are they called? Anything. Pins?
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 1: What are they called? There's a word for those little nicotine.
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Pouches? Zin.
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking of.
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these are different. These are from a company called Lucy.
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 3: These are called Breakers. Do those have THC in them? No. No, no, no.
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 3: It's just nicotine. This is all just nicotine. No, I
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 3: mean those. The gummies.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 3: The gummies are just nootropics. Nootropics are like theanine. There's
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 3: like a little bit of caffeine in these. One of
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 3: the things we did with Onnit, we made this thing
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 3: called AlphaBrain, which was there's a bunch of different nootropics
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 3: out there and a bunch of like acetylcholine, a bunch
• 2:41:43
  Speaker 3: of different things that have shown to have an effect
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 3: on your memory. And so we put together a group
• 2:41:50
  Speaker 3: of these that would all work synergistically together. And then
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 3: we did two double-blind placebo-controlled trials at Boston Center for Memory.
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 3: And it showed efficacy. It showed that it helped increase
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 3: verbal memory, which is like your ability to form sentences
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 3: and recall the correct words to use, reaction time, alpha state.
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 3: So it's like it does work. And it's not just
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 3: on it because I'm connected to it. Like I have
• 2:42:15
  Speaker 3: no connection at all to NeuroGum or NeuroMints. But it
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 3: works and I tell people about it. There's another company
• 2:42:21
  Speaker 3: called True Brain that's really good. There's another company called
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 3: Neuro One. That was the first one that I ever tried.
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 3: That's Bill Romanowski, the football player.
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 3: He developed that because he was having memory problems after
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 3: getting fucking hit in the head for all those years
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 3: playing football.
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 1: Didn't, as far as I've ever gone, what was that
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 1: pill you were taking?
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 3: It's not echinacea.
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 1: There was one pill you were taking that was supposed
• 2:42:41
  Speaker 1: to be good for memory. It was like one of
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: those things you get on the fucking shelf in the
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: vitamin store. And I don't remember what it was, but
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 1: I used to take that, but I didn't see any. Hmm.
• 2:42:50
  Speaker 3: I was taken in? No, me.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 1: I say the collective you.
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 3: People would take. I don't know. But there's a bunch
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 3: of those things. They're real. Like nootropics, it's a real thing.
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people call it snake oil. And
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 3: I understand. I understand that you'd be very suspicious. But
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 3: there's the reality. And this is one of the reasons why,
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 3: you know, like I have a connection, obviously, to Onnit.
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 3: We founded the company together. But I don't have any
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 3: connection to NeuroBrain or NeuroOne. Take them. They work. There's real,
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 3: legitimate solutions that help. your brain function, and they don't
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 3: seem to carry any side effects. Some people, if they
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 3: take high doses of some of them, get headaches. I
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 3: think that's probably just like some people react very badly
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 3: to caffeine. It's like everybody has their own different biological stuff,
• 2:43:35
  Speaker 3: but try it. And the gum is a great one.
• 2:43:38
  Speaker 3: Neuro gum is great. because it's a delicious gum, it
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 3: tastes good, and it really works, man. I take it
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 1: It helps your brain a little bit.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I take it before I go on stage.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 3: I chew NeuroGum before I go on stage. It's very legit.
• 2:43:49
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I wanted to take? Jamie's got
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 3: a big bag of it right there. And, again, we're
• 2:43:53
  Speaker 3: not connected to them. This is just stuff that works.
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to take, because flying became such a, again,
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 1: a fear for me again. In this phase of my life,
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't fucking need that. So I talked to Whitney,
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 1: and she had talked about beta blockers.
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't take them.
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 1: But I got, like, do they help at all to, like,
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 1: but I have a low heartbeat anyway, so I don't
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 1: know if it's going to fuck me up to take
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: a beta blocker.
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 3: Well, beta blockers stop you from getting anxious. Right. They
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 3: stop adrenaline. A lot of people, they get busted using
• 2:44:22
  Speaker 3: them in, like, archery competitions. They ban them. Sure. Because,
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 3: you know, like, you're, like, in the Olympics and you're
• 2:44:28
  Speaker 3: just trying to hit that bullseye every time. Like, any
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 3: kind of nerves or jitters is going to fuck with you. Right.
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 3: You know, the problem is it's going to be something
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 3: that you get addicted to, or maybe not even physically addicted,
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 3: but you become dependent upon it.
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I don't want.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 3: I think I've asked.
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: They said they weren't, but for flying, it's something I
• 2:44:49
  Speaker 1: literally have to fight to do.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting a little bit better. The anxiety? Dude,
• 2:44:55
  Speaker 1: I'm a fucking grown-up. I have to sit by the
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: window and look at the wing. I'm really hateable on
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 1: a plane. Fucking six in the morning, I'm just trying
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 1: to sleep, and I get my fucking fat face pressed
• 2:45:04
  Speaker 1: up against the window. staring like I'm eight. So I'm trying.
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 3: To get out of there. Well, there are things. You
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 3: know what's another thing that's really good for your cognitive
• 2:45:14
  Speaker 3: function that a lot of people aren't aware of is creatine.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 3: And creatine is really good, particularly if you are sleep deprived.
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 3: Like there's a study that they did that showed that
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 3: if you take, I think it's 20 milligrams of creatine
• 2:45:27
  Speaker 3: a It has a really positive effect on your ability
• 2:45:33
  Speaker 3: to maintain normal cognitive function while you're sleep deprived.
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 3: I've heard of it. It's also very good for women.
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 3: Creatine is especially good supplement for women to take for
• 2:45:44
  Speaker 3: some strange reason. But it's a muscle-building supplement. It's really
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 3: good for helping you gain muscle mass and strength if
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 3: you're weight training. That was what it was initially used for.
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 3: But now they're realizing there's a lot of cognitive benefits
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 3: to creatine as well.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't take any of that stuff. I probably
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 1: should at this point.
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 3: I take creatine every day.
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 1: I take nothing other than just the little thing from
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 1: my heart.
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 3: You don't take vitamins?
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. I know.
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 1: I probably should.
• 2:46:11
  Speaker 3: I take everything. I take B.
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 1: I do take B and I take one other one.
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 3: You should take D for sure. You live in New
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 3: York City. You know, you're probably not getting enough sun. No, definitely. Yeah.
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 3: D is huge because D is a hormone. D is
• 2:46:23
  Speaker 3: actually a hormone. And it's a hormone that your body
• 2:46:27
  Speaker 3: produces when you get into the sun. The best way
• 2:46:29
  Speaker 3: to get vitamin D for sure is to be in
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 3: the sun. But if you're not in the sun enough,
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 3: one of my friends who's a doctor was in New
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 3: York City when he was doing his his residency, and
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 3: he said they would do tests on people in New
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 3: York City, and they found that they had undetectable levels
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 3: of vitamin D in the winter. And he was like,
• 2:46:47
  Speaker 3: you know, this has a huge effect on your immune system.
• 2:46:51
  Speaker 3: This is the reason why people get, like everyone's, oh,
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 3: it's flu season. No, it's lack of vitamin D season
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 3: is what it is. The flu doesn't thrive in the winter.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 3: The flu exists in the winter because people have a
• 2:47:02
  Speaker 3: low immune system in the winter, and then they start
• 2:47:04
  Speaker 3: catching it and giving it to other people. But it's
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 3: really a function of your immune system not working properly.
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 3: So you need D, and you should take D with K2,
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 3: vitamin K2, and magnesium. They all work synergistically together.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: I'll remember it like hard. you and ask you the
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 1: same question.
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 3: That's okay. Text me. I'll tell you. But you should
• 2:47:24
  Speaker 3: take that. But you should also take B. You should
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 3: take B12. You should take C. C is huge. You
• 2:47:31
  Speaker 3: can't take enough of it or you can't take too
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 3: much of it. C is great. I could take liposomal C.
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 3: It's really good for you.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because as you get older, man, you start thinking like, eh,
• 2:47:41
  Speaker 1: these things are starting to affect me now a little bit.
• 2:47:43
  Speaker 1: Not terrible. I'm still in pretty good health. But you
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 1: start to panic and start to think.
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 3: How old are you now? 56. I'm 57. I'm almost 58.
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 3: And my body works great. And it's really because of that.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 3: It's just a huge effect. I don't skip days. And
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 3: when I do, I feel it. you know, but I
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 3: try not to. And I have a whole cabinet filled
• 2:48:02
  Speaker 3: with supplements that I take. You know, I take a
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 3: lot of vitamins.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 1: My buddies never work great though. So it's not like
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 1: I don't see any real drop off.
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the problem. You know, if you're working out
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 3: and you're doing all these different things and you want
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 3: your body to function better, just force yourself to do it.
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 3: Get your wife to like make you a little packets.
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 3: It's real simple. You know, just lay all the stuff.
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 3: I need two of these, three of these, one of those.
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 3: Put it all in a package. This is methylfolate. Put
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 3: that in there. This is, And all that stuff has
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 3: a giant effect on your health. You want your body
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 3: to function optimally. Yeah. And what I notice the difference
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 3: is when I eat poorly, when I don't get enough sleep,
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 3: and when I don't take supplements. I get that. I
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 3: quit drinking like three months ago, a little more than
• 2:48:48
  Speaker 3: three months ago now. Like nothing? You're not drinking at all?
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 3: I haven't drank anything in three months. I feel great.
• 2:48:51
  Speaker 3: Was it hard?
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 2: No.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 3: It was super easy.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:48:54
  Speaker 3: It was really easy. You were ready. Yeah, it was
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 3: like I just– there was too many days where it's
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 3: kind of hard when you own a club and you're
• 2:49:01
  Speaker 3: there a lot and you're having drinks with friends and
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 3: you want a drink. Yeah, I'll have a drink. And
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 3: then the next day I'd be at the gym. I'm like, ugh.
• 2:49:09
  Speaker 3: I'd be drinking all this water and taking all these
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 3: electrolytes and getting a sauna and the cold plunge, just
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 3: trying to get back to normal. I'm like, why am
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 3: I doing that? Well, in the three months of no drinking,
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 3: I have not had one bad day. I have not
• 2:49:23
  Speaker 3: had one day where I felt like shit. And it
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 3: just confirmed what I thought. I was poisoning myself. Poisoning
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 3: myself with fun. I was having a good time. It
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 3: wasn't terrible. I wasn't an alcoholic. I wasn't drinking and
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 3: driving or anything stupid, but It was a couple of drinks,
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 3: a few nights a week. Maybe I'd go out with
• 2:49:41
  Speaker 3: my wife on date night, have a couple glasses of wine.
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 3: It was just at the end of the week. It's
• 2:49:47
  Speaker 3: like you're drinking eight drinks. And that's just not good.
• 2:49:52
  Speaker 3: It's just not good for you.
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine drinking and doing comedy. Again, I quit
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 1: before I started. I see guys who are like, I can't.
• 2:50:00
  Speaker 1: Because I was not a fun drunk at all.
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 3: I was a fucking.
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 1: I was the fucking worst. No one liked me.
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 3: You fucking piece of shit. But you were like 19. 18,
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 3: I was 18, yeah. You're not even supposed to be
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 3: drinking back then.
• 2:50:14
  Speaker 1: I know, and people are like, oh, he was too young.
• 2:50:17
  Speaker 3: Try it again now, Jimmy.
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 1: People would love, but they wouldn't like me. I was
• 2:50:23
  Speaker 1: a cutter. I mean, who the fuck was that?
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 3: A 56-year-old cutter.
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 2: Ah!
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, how awful is that?
• 2:50:28
  Speaker 3: That's awful.
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 1: So it's the best thing I did because I was
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 1: not a fun guy to be around.
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 3: Some guys are fun. Oh, yeah.
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 1: Like when Anthony drinks. He's, you know, at times I
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 1: wish his fucking Twitter fingers were broken.
• 2:50:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:50:40
  Speaker 1: But I wish we'd locked his fucking phone. But he
• 2:50:42
  Speaker 1: is a funny, like he's not usually an angry drunk.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 3: He's functional.
• 2:50:46
  Speaker 1: He's a functional guy. I was never functional. I was vomit.
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 1: I was the phone I should call the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: I fucking.
• 2:50:54
  Speaker 1: You know, I used to call bomb threats into my
• 2:50:56
  Speaker 1: high school. I was fucking crazy.
• 2:50:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 1: I called, I can say it now. I mean, I called,
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 1: let's say, a threat into the White House.
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 3: But I was 13.
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 1: I was 13 when I did it. That's so crazy.
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 3: What a crazy thing to do.
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 1: The Ku Klux Klan, I called the fucking, because I
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 1: was like little Lib Jimmy. And I read that there
• 2:51:12
  Speaker 1: was a Klan book I read. And the guy was
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 1: like a preacher for the Ku Klux Klan. So I
• 2:51:16
  Speaker 1: called him. I looked his number up on 411 back then.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 3: It was the early 80s. Wow.
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 1: And I got his name and I called him.
• 2:51:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, are you fucking racist?
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 1: And he actually talked to me. And he was like, oh,
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 1: I got out of the Klan. I'm not in that anymore.
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 1: We actually had a conversation. He actually engaged me for
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 1: about 20 minutes. I had a conversation with some Klan.
• 2:51:35
  Speaker 3: When you were a kid?
• 2:51:36
  Speaker 1: I was 14 years old, 15 years old.
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 1: Again, I remember calling for information.
• 2:51:42
  Speaker 3: Well, good for him for doing that.
• 2:51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for getting out.
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, getting out and talking to you about that on
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 3: the phone. He didn't have to talk to you about that.
• 2:51:50
  Speaker 3: He could have just hung up.
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised, because many people did. I was a fix-the-world
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 1: on the phone. Thank God I didn't have fucking Twitter.
• 2:51:58
  Speaker 3: Do you know who Daryl Davis is? No. Daryl Davis
• 2:52:00
  Speaker 3: is a guy who's been on the podcast a couple times,
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 3: and he's a blues musician. Is he black? Yes. Okay.
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 3: And he's the guy that would convert the Klan members.
• 2:52:09
  Speaker 3: I know who he is, yeah. And he gets their costumes.
• 2:52:12
  Speaker 3: They give him their wizard costumes at the end.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 1: Because he's probably a guy who's not, and I have
• 2:52:17
  Speaker 1: seen stuff by him, he probably is just a good guy,
• 2:52:21
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to dismiss.
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 3: Him because he's not force-feeding you. Exactly.
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 1: It's hard to dismiss anybody when you're just, when you're not,
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 1: no one wants to be messaged at, man.
• 2:52:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 2:52:31
  Speaker 1: In stand-up, I can't even do it. My job is
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 1: not to convert people. I want you to know what
• 2:52:36
  Speaker 1: my life is. I hope you have some respect for it.
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just living the way I want to live. And
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not out to tell other people they have to
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 1: feel this way.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: Because no one wants to be messaged at.
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 3: Nobody. It doesn't work. It's not effective.
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 1: If it was effective, I'd probably do it.
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 3: What's effective is what Daryl does. He just shows you, like,
• 2:52:53
  Speaker 3: this is a good man. I must be wrong if
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 3: I think that all black people are evil.
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 3: This guy's... like become a good friend, you have him
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 3: over for dinner and then the guy's like, I'm telling
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 3: you right now, I'm getting out of the clan because
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 3: of you. And he did it to like 200 different
• 2:53:06
  Speaker 3: people on a one-on-one basis.
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 1: Where he gets to know them and getting beyond, it's
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 1: like we talked about before, like anytime somebody is an
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: asshole publicly, but when you meet them and you realize, oh,
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 1: there's a person here, like it's the way people are.
• 2:53:18
  Speaker 3: Supposed to communicate. And this is what I think is
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 3: so terrible about social media is that too many people
• 2:53:23
  Speaker 3: are just become so accustomed to barking at people, just
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 3: barking out into the abyss.
• 2:53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to stop myself from doing it. There's
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 1: been times people have tweeted something and I want to
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 1: make like a cunty remark.
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, shut up, dummy. They're not talking to you. Exactly.
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 1: Mind your fucking business. I really do say that to myself.
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 1: Mind your business, you fucking hen. And when I see
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 1: people do it, I think that guy's mentally ill. Like
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: you're engaging with these people. You're yelling at these people
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 1: on Twitter. You're mentally ill. Yeah, like I don't care
• 2:53:47
  Speaker 1: what other people, like I care what people think about
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: me in the sense that I want them to think
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 1: I'm funny and I want them to, of course we
• 2:53:52
  Speaker 1: all want to be liked. But I don't care what
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 1: people's opinions on the Middle East are.
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 3: I don't give a shit. You're not going to change
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 3: their opinions.
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: And I don't need them to agree with mine. I
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 1: have enough confidence in my own brain that I am
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 1: not always right, but I'm always comfortable in my opinions,
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm not afraid of somebody.
• 2:54:07
  Speaker 3: I'm okay being wrong, too. Right.
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 1: I don't need the power of agreement from somebody.
• 2:54:12
  Speaker 3: It's just... Good for you.
• 2:54:15
  Speaker 1: But it's only because I've tried it in my life,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 1: and it hasn't worked.
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:54:17
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make you happy when you get it.
• 2:54:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 1: It only makes you angry.
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work. It's a terrible way to communicate. Yeah,
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 3: it is. Jimmy, I love you to death. I love
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 3: you too, Joe. Thank you, buddy. It's always great to
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 3: see you.
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 3: Tell everybody. Yes.
• 2:54:30
  Speaker 1: The special is called Unconceivable. I kept forgetting the name
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 1: and it's not a misspell. Unconceivable is actually a word
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 1: in English language and it does kind of fit. And
• 2:54:39
  Speaker 1: the podcast is Jim Norton Can't Save You. Both are
• 2:54:42
  Speaker 1: on at Jim Norton Comedy at YouTube. And I'm really
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 1: happy with this special.
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 1: I would say that anyway. I'm not going to come
• 2:54:48
  Speaker 1: up here and shit on my own special. I'm not
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 1: that self-destructive. But I actually really was happy with this one.
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 3: Beautiful. So I hope you like it.
• 2:54:54
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 3: Thanks, pal.
• 2:54:55
  Speaker 2: Bye, everybody.