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Chuck in the Morning 8-3 Hour 3: What's the trade deadline plan? Baseball Brunch and Camp Battles. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Hey o'clock hour, Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you
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Speaker 1: here on this beautiful Chris Monday morning at the Virginia
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Speaker 1: Mason Athletic Center. Camp coverage continues starting with us every
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Speaker 1: morning right here at Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 1: k a RFM. Of course, I'm not going to talk
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of football here today. We've got trade
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Speaker 1: deadline today and it's at three o'clock. And this is
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Speaker 1: a holiday that should be celebrated the world over. I
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Speaker 1: believe that it is, and so we will pay attention
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Speaker 1: to the holidays, otherwise we will come off as sacrilege.
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Speaker 1: So we will get into all of it for you here,
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Speaker 1: including the one Mariners trade that they may over the
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Speaker 1: weekend and what it does mean going forward and what
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Speaker 1: could happen today. But let me first start the hour
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Speaker 1: you wake up this morning? I just I'm I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've waited two hours to ask and five iron surprise
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Speaker 1: you with like a bouquet of flowers and like a
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Speaker 1: gift under the trade deadline tree or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: How did the How did the Medley celebrate the trade
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Speaker 1: deadline Day today on All the Ears?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought me breakfast in bed and I was like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god. In the morning, He's like, but it's
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Speaker 2: trade deadline day and I don't sleep and I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I know, me neither.
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Speaker 3: I can't wait.
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Speaker 2: And then and then we just sat around and we
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Speaker 2: opened our stockings.
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Speaker 1: There's stockings for every sports occasion.
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Speaker 2: Every sports occasion, because what else are you gonna hang
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Speaker 2: from the hearth?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed a new new use for stockings anyway,
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, come on now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So we we opened those and uh, he
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Speaker 2: got me some pack of trading cards.
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Speaker 1: And actually, neither one of us, I'm just putting this together,
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Speaker 1: neither one of Ashley and I discussed for we came
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Speaker 1: on the show today. Neither of us slept very well
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Speaker 1: last night. And it probably is because of the enthusiasm
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Speaker 1: trade deadline Day, and in your particular case, you couldn't
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Speaker 1: wait to find out what Five Iron did to celebrate.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's definitely why I couldn't sleep, so yeah,
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Speaker 2: it'll be it'll be great. I mean, I'm not gonna
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Speaker 2: nap today because you still can't sleep till after three o'clock.
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Speaker 1: But right that's gonna be really hard hard for us
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Speaker 1: to do here, so it might be a three h
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Speaker 1: five nap. Well, then I gotta go on with softia
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Speaker 1: four today. So I don't know how we're gonna pull
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Speaker 1: this off. It's tough for you anyway. I guess since
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Speaker 1: we're up and we're at it, we might as well
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Speaker 1: break it all down for you. But the Mariners did
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Speaker 1: make a trade over the weekend. Look Friday night, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was looking as grim as it could look, and
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Speaker 1: Mariners lose to the Minnesota Twins, having blown an early
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Speaker 1: lead in that contest, having fallen five games under five hundred,
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Speaker 1: which I never thought was going to happen again, it
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Speaker 1: happened earlier in the year, so it matched the lowest,
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Speaker 1: you know, mark under five hundred that the Mariners had had.
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Speaker 1: But now, I mean, we're we're closing in on the
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Speaker 1: end of July, and to be well, they're past the
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Speaker 1: end of July, we're into August now, and to be
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Speaker 1: five games under five hundred in August. Man never, never
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Speaker 1: in a million years saw that coming for this team,
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Speaker 1: this roster, this organization in twenty twenty six, but that
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Speaker 1: was the reality. So when we wake up Saturday morning,
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Speaker 1: we wake up to news that everything's on the table,
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Speaker 1: including the Mariners performing in a cell mode. Potentially Randy
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Speaker 1: a Rosary, George Kirby were the names being thrown around
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Speaker 1: in all of the rumor circles Saturday. By Saturday morning,
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Speaker 1: and yet the team does get an afternoon win over
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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Twins, and so suddenly you're wondering if they
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Speaker 1: would not be in cell mode, if that would have
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Speaker 1: talked them out of getting into cell mode. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's how crucial these games. I mean, one game can
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Speaker 1: flip a team's mindset from buyers to sellers at this
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Speaker 1: time of the year. Maybe it shouldn't, but it can.
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Speaker 1: So we're sitting there speculating that, oh man, they lose
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Speaker 1: this and they probably are going to be all in
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Speaker 1: on an A Rose Arena and or Kirby trade before Monday,
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Speaker 1: and instead they get the victory, and then what happens
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Speaker 1: next Then they do make a trade, but for the
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Speaker 1: pitcher they desired to trade most in this process, all
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Speaker 1: along that being Luis Castillo to the Chicago White Sox
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Speaker 1: in exchange for relief pitcher Sir Anthony Dominguez or chaw
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Speaker 1: outfielder Nolan Jones, who really is a non factor in
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Speaker 1: this trade. And then prospect Boston Smith, who has been
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Speaker 1: turning some heads this year, but was a top twenty
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Speaker 1: prospect in the White Sox organization's gonna be a top
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Speaker 1: twenty prospect in the Mariners organization. So I know he's
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Speaker 1: put up some good numbers this year, but the rankings
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Speaker 1: that are made for prospects, does do his skills translate
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Speaker 1: to the major leagues, And there's some doubt about that.
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Speaker 1: So this isn't one of the White sox best prospects,
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Speaker 1: despite the good numbers that he's put up. Left handed
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Speaker 1: hitting catcher that we now add to our minor league system,
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Speaker 1: and not a bad pick up under the circumstances. As
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Speaker 1: I've told you throughout this process, I didn't think Luis
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Speaker 1: Castillo's trade value. I didn't know what you could really get.
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Speaker 1: I thought you could get either a Boston Smith type
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Speaker 1: or you take on a bad contract, which isn't quite
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Speaker 1: as bad as the contract you're giving up, and the
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Speaker 1: Mariners pulled off where they ended up getting both. They
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Speaker 1: ended up getting a prospect and a pitcher that should
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Speaker 1: help contribute to this team. But that the White Sox
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Speaker 1: really didn't want Deminguez at seven million dollars if he
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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be their closer, didn't want him at ten
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Speaker 1: million dollars next season, and so you kind of got both.
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Speaker 1: You got a bad contract, but not a terrible one,
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Speaker 1: and Demingez not as bad as it could have been, right,
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Speaker 1: not long lasting ramifications potentially, and you got the prospect.
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Speaker 1: So I think they got more than what I thought
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Speaker 1: they would get for Luis Castillo. That said, let's make
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Speaker 1: no mistake about it, this trade does not make the
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Speaker 1: Mariners better. No, I think you could have moved Louis
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Speaker 1: Castillo to the bullpen. I don't care if he makes
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Speaker 1: twenty four million dollars a year. I think that you
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Speaker 1: could have moved him to the bullpen and you would
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Speaker 1: have had a better relief pitcher in Castillo than what
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Speaker 1: you got in Sir Anthony Deminguez. So you get a
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Speaker 1: prospect out of it, you save some money this year,
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Speaker 1: certainly get twenty four million dollars off your books for
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Speaker 1: next year, which should help build the off season. But
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Speaker 1: if you're still about winning this season, this trade does
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Speaker 1: not make you better than what you were with Luis
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Speaker 1: Castillo on the roster. But it did clear money and
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Speaker 1: it did clarify who your starting rotation is right now
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Speaker 1: for the rest and we don't have to worry about
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Speaker 1: piggybacking anymore or six man rotations. We can just lock
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Speaker 1: in on the five and move forward with Kate Anderson
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Speaker 1: performing in some sort of roles I would think on
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Speaker 1: this team, most likely out of the bullpen, but perhaps
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Speaker 1: he will crack the starting rotation, and certainly if one
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Speaker 1: of the five go down between now and the end
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Speaker 1: of the year, then it's an easy call up of
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Speaker 1: Kate Anderson and he takes that spot in the rotation.
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Speaker 1: But it sets up Ashley for later on. Today, you've
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Speaker 1: now won two straight games, ye, and you did get
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Speaker 1: to trade the pitcher that you most desired to move,
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Speaker 1: and you have created some money flexibility for yourself, and
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Speaker 1: so from that standpoint, you did accomplish some things. But
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Speaker 1: now we have till now in three o'clock to find
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Speaker 1: out what their plan's going to be. To try to
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Speaker 1: make this team better, if that's even part of their
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Speaker 1: plan between now and three.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think one of the things we've been
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Speaker 2: hearing you know as well, we will get better when
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Speaker 2: we get Donovan back and when we you know, are
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Speaker 2: which is true, I would hope, But I don't know
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Speaker 2: if that is enough, because again, we was questionable at
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Speaker 2: third base. Offensively great for us, and I appreciated his efforts,
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Speaker 2: and I mean he hustles, and I think starts sets
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Speaker 2: this team off on a good note when he's in games.
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Speaker 2: And I think we's been greatly missed. But I just
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Speaker 2: I wonder if they've got anything up else up their sleeve.
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Speaker 2: And I find myself hoping they've got something else up
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Speaker 2: their sleeve, but then also worried that they've got something
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Speaker 2: else up their sleeve that I won't like, like trading,
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Speaker 2: and when I don't want them to.
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Speaker 1: Trade, that's a that's a good way of putting it,
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Speaker 1: for sure. Look, I think they have everything it takes
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Speaker 1: to win the division. Like Jim Moden told us two
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, they don't have to add anything. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: they should still win this division, if not run away
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Speaker 1: with it. Now Houston might say have something to say
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Speaker 1: about it. They've obviously started playing their best baseball as
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Speaker 1: of late, and they sound like they are actively seeking.
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Speaker 1: They are certainly buying what they two and a half
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Speaker 1: game lead in the division and probably will add something
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Speaker 1: to their team, probably a starting pitcher between now and
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Speaker 1: three o'clock. That said, I still think we have the
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Speaker 1: better roster than the Houston Astros, but we haven't played
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Speaker 1: better than them, and we haven't played good baseball for
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Speaker 1: any stretch of time at any time this year.
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Speaker 2: That's depressing.
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Speaker 1: It is, it really is. But you do add Brendan
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Speaker 1: Donovan and three games out of first place, two games
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Speaker 1: out of the wild card. I mean they've bought at
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Speaker 1: the trading deadline in a more dire situation than that.
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Speaker 1: That's what gave us Randy Rose Arena in the first place. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so at this stage, I think you have to be
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Speaker 1: buyers today. I think that you need to add something.
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Speaker 1: And the problem is, we've seen what the market is
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Speaker 1: bearing that you can get a left handed hitter like
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Speaker 1: Luisa Roe for very little in return. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: Phillies gave up a decent package, probably what he's worth
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Speaker 1: on the market, but they just added a three point
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Speaker 1: thirty hitter, an all star second baseman for their number
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Speaker 1: four prospect in their organization, and a middle reliever. So
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Speaker 1: that just happened today. So left handed hitters are available
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Speaker 1: on the market. Right handed hitters, it seems like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you got to take out a loan from you know,
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Speaker 1: Lloyd's of London, you know, in order to have the
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Speaker 1: trade capital that's going to be required to get a
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Speaker 1: right handed hitter, Which is why they're considering trading Randy A.
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Speaker 1: Rose arena at this point, because, man, if the market
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Speaker 1: is so, if the market is suggesting that a guy
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Speaker 1: like Curtis Mead is worth one of the best young
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Speaker 1: pitchers in the Red Sox organism, Connolly Early, then if
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Speaker 1: we trade an even better right handed hitter in Randy A.
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Speaker 1: Rose arena, what is someone willing to pay for Randy
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Speaker 1: Rose Arena out there? I mean, Boston's already lost Curtis
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Speaker 1: Mead to injury. He's gonna be gone for a month
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Speaker 1: and a half, so they're still looking for a right
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Speaker 1: handed hitter to play left field. I mean, do you
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Speaker 1: have another Connley Earlier lying around? What might you have
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Speaker 1: that not only makes sense to us for the future,
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Speaker 1: but might make sense for us right now. Could you
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Speaker 1: give us something right now that helps us, but at
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Speaker 1: the cost of giving up our most consistent offensive player
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Speaker 1: this entire season. I don't think George Kirby is still available.
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Speaker 1: I think the Luis Castillo trade has taken George out
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Speaker 1: of the equation. I do think George is going to
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Speaker 1: be traded this offseason just to brace you. But I
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Speaker 1: felt like that for a really long time. But I
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Speaker 1: think that the Castillo trade has eliminated the thought. I mean,
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Speaker 1: think about how reluctant they were to trade Castillo for
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Speaker 1: gonnas sake, because they didn't want to give up starting pitching.
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Speaker 1: It's too valuable. Boy, the moment you give up starting pitching,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna need it the very next day. That's been
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Speaker 1: their marching orders. That's been what they've said about this scenario.
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Speaker 1: Even though I've tried to trade Luis Castillo both of
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Speaker 1: the last two off seasons. I've been trying to make
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Speaker 1: a trade of Luis Castillo to avoid what we've had
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Speaker 1: this year, and they decided not to do it. So
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine after all of that that they're now
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Speaker 1: going to in the span of seventy two hours trade
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Speaker 1: two of their proven starting pitchers. So I think George
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Speaker 1: Kirby is safe. I don't think there's a trade out
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Speaker 1: there that they're going to make. I think there's a
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Speaker 1: reason that the Cubs went after Gosman last night because
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Speaker 1: they probably hit a dead end with the Mariners trying
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Speaker 1: to get George Kirby, and the Mariners decided Kirby's no
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Speaker 1: longer available because we've already traded Castillo, all right, So
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Speaker 1: I don't think that that's a threat. I don't know, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: what they're gonna do with a rose Arena at this point.
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Speaker 1: I still think they might be entertaining it because the
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Speaker 1: market is saying that right handed hitters are worth their
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Speaker 1: weight in gold right now in Major League Baseball. So
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Speaker 1: the point is, if the Mariners can't get a right
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Speaker 1: handed hitter on the market to add to the team
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Speaker 1: because the market's asking for way too much, then the
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Speaker 1: alternative creative way to think about it, at least running
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Speaker 1: it through the Mariners prism, is well, then why don't
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Speaker 1: we trade our right handed hitter who's been an issue
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Speaker 1: in our clubhouse this season? Has tremendous value, certainly more
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Speaker 1: than Curtis Meade and maybe we can get something to
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Speaker 1: help us this year, help us in the future, and
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Speaker 1: that does not prohibit us from I'm still looking for
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Speaker 1: more offensive talent between now and three o'clock. So I
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Speaker 1: do think Randy a Rose arena probably is in play,
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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that he should be right.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing. I mean, I suppose if you if
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Speaker 2: somebody's going to overpay you for him, and you're gonna
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Speaker 2: get a lot more than you should have just because
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Speaker 2: he's a right handed hitter, then yeah, you'd be an
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Speaker 2: idiot not to consider it. But I just, yeah, the
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Speaker 2: idea that you're instantly making your offense worse, which has
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Speaker 2: been that has been your problem, right You're pitching is
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Speaker 2: your strength, your offense is your weakness, and you're gonna
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Speaker 2: then make it worse. I just I can't wrap my
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Speaker 2: head around that one, right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I still think that this is probably gonna
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Speaker 1: come down to whether or not Josh Naylor, cal Rowley
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Speaker 1: and Julio Rodriguez get going. No matter what, whether we
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Speaker 1: have a Rose arena or don't have a Rose arena,
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Speaker 1: it's probably gonna come down to those two, at least
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Speaker 1: two of those three figuring something out over the course
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Speaker 1: of the last couple of months of the year. I
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Speaker 1: think we've seen a little little bit of change in Naylor.
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Speaker 1: I think we've seen a little bit of change in
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Speaker 1: col but it's still not enough. We need them to
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Speaker 1: be productive offensive players down the stretch. But until they
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Speaker 1: can show us that, how do you move on from
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Speaker 1: a Rose Arena, who I think contributed mightily to those
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Speaker 1: two wins on Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, especially, I don't
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Speaker 1: think Randy doesn't hustle because he think I don't even
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Speaker 1: know if it's by choice. I think Randy's just got
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Speaker 1: a weird filter in his head. But he's rubbed teammates
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Speaker 1: the wrong way since he was a Saint Louis Cardinal,
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Speaker 1: and he did with the Tampa Bay Rays, and I
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Speaker 1: think that he has with the Seattle Mariners. And there
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Speaker 1: is an argument to be made that even if they
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Speaker 1: did trade him, we've seen it just two years ago
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Speaker 1: with the Detroit Tigers, who beat us out for a
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Speaker 1: playoff spot. Two years ago after they sold at the
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Speaker 1: trading deadline and got rid of a few veterans that
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Speaker 1: they didn't like having in the clubhouse, and they ended
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Speaker 1: up after selling at the deadline, going on a run
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Speaker 1: that got them into the playoffs in twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: And so is Randy or Rose Arena such a problem
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Speaker 1: that it is additioned by subtraction and by in getting
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Speaker 1: him out of the locker room. And you could also
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Speaker 1: add probably a piece for now and the nice piece
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Speaker 1: for the future by moving him before the deadline today.
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Speaker 1: I don't have the answer to that. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how big of a problem that he has been in
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Speaker 1: the clubhouse, but I know he has been to some degree.
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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you have complained about
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Speaker 1: boy you chose now to loaf after that ball, or
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Speaker 1: loaf around the bass pads, or you made that decision
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Speaker 1: on the bass pads, So there is an issue there.
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Speaker 1: But I just I mean, I watched a guy that
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Speaker 1: contributed to those two wins. I mean, he hustled home
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Speaker 1: on Saturday with the game winning run and scored it.
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Speaker 1: I gotta keep him. I gotta keep him. I gotta
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Speaker 1: keep George, and I got to try to make it
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Speaker 1: into the playoffs this year and then test that theory
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Speaker 1: that once you're in and you've got great starting pitching,
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Speaker 1: that anything can happen. That's the way that I've got
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Speaker 1: to approach this between now and three o'clock. So not
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Speaker 1: only do I not want to trade a Rose Arena
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Speaker 1: and or Kirby, I still think they stay on the
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Speaker 1: path or should stay on the path of adding something
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Speaker 1: to this team that can make it give it the
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Speaker 1: edge that it may or may not need in tracking
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Speaker 1: down Houston and winning this division.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like if you trade a Rose Arena,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the Kirby thing would just make me furious.
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Speaker 2: If you trade a Rose Arena though, it feels like
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Speaker 2: you're half in, half out. Yeah, and that is just
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Speaker 2: my least favorite.
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Speaker 1: That's your least favorite.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're half in, half out of the trade deadline,
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if we're terrible, be be, don't make
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Speaker 2: a move or sell, Okay, sure, but in this case
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Speaker 2: where we're kind of in this middle place, just okay,
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Speaker 2: then don't do anything. Don't do anything big, don't don't
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Speaker 2: sell someone that's a key piece of our offense. To
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Speaker 2: bring in someone. I mean, it just feels like you're
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Speaker 2: making a move to make a move, and I don't
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Speaker 2: want it.
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Speaker 1: Huh. Well, I don't think it would be that it
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Speaker 1: would be more of what you were angry about before, yeah,
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Speaker 1: than that is trying to get cute and doing a
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Speaker 1: buy sell. Yeah. I don't. Yeah, I don't typically like
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Speaker 1: that myself, so to me, I mean, look what the
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Speaker 1: Yankees did yesterday. They added Luis Garcia. The Yankees have
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Speaker 1: just as much of a left handed well not as much,
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Speaker 1: but they have a problem against lefties too. Everybody lines
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Speaker 1: up lefties against them because without Aaron Judge in the lineup,
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Speaker 1: it's Chisholm and Wells and Bell and when he's healthy
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Speaker 1: and Ryan McMahon. They just get to kind of eliminate
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Speaker 1: all of those guys from their lineup. It's why they
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Speaker 1: they've been struggling, it's why they've come back to the
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Speaker 1: pack and they're they're not that dangerous. But what did
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Speaker 1: they add over the weekend? A left handed hitter? So
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Speaker 1: I know that they tried the market and just felt
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Speaker 1: like it cost too much to get a righty like
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Speaker 1: Boston way overpaid for Curtis Mead. I mean, that was
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Speaker 1: an insane price to add Curtis Mead, and I think
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Speaker 1: major league teams are like, man, if that's what the
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Speaker 1: market price is for a right handed hitter, forget it. Uh,
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Speaker 1: And the Yankees just decided, well, let's just get a
20:37
Speaker 1: left handed hitter. Let's just get a guy that we
20:39
Speaker 1: know that can hit. And if we're still vulnerable against lefties,
20:43
Speaker 1: so be it. But he's still going to be He
20:46
Speaker 1: still is going to improve our offense. He's going to
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Speaker 1: upgrade our offense. Maybe not ideally what we wanted to get,
20:55
Speaker 1: but we got a guy that is better and makes
20:57
Speaker 1: our lineup better. And maybe that's what the Mariners have
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Speaker 1: to do today. Is even if it's a lefty, even
21:05
Speaker 1: if it's a Kyle Stowers from the Marlins or or
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Speaker 1: Liam Hicks from the from the Marlins, if that's a
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Speaker 1: bat that helps improve your offense, then so be it.
21:18
Speaker 1: And I guess we'll just roll the dice on some
21:20
Speaker 1: of our right handed hitters coming around here down the stretch,
21:25
Speaker 1: uh and performing better against lefties. But that's where we stand.
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Speaker 1: As far as I see it, I think it would
21:32
Speaker 1: be rather disappointing if we find out that Kirby and
21:37
Speaker 1: or a rose Arena are traded between now and three o'clock.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be one creative sucker if I'm
21:43
Speaker 1: gonna like it. And yet we'll see how aggressive a
21:47
Speaker 1: team three games under five hundred is going to be
21:50
Speaker 1: that today's trading deadline. We'll talk more about it a
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Speaker 1: little bit later on, but let's recap that crazy game.
21:56
Speaker 1: Next baseball brunch. We haven't done it in a while.
21:58
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. We have not
22:01
Speaker 1: had a baseball brunch in a while. With training camps starting,
22:05
Speaker 1: we've been so locked in on Seahawks football. But today
22:08
Speaker 1: is Major League Baseball trading deadline day, so I'm celebrating
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Speaker 1: it for all that it is worth. And a part
22:15
Speaker 1: of that, part of this equation is that the Mariners
22:20
Speaker 1: on Friday night certainly did hit their rock bottom and
22:25
Speaker 1: may have been changing their attitude toward the trading deadline.
22:29
Speaker 1: For all of us who are rooting for them to
22:32
Speaker 1: ad ad and not give up on this season, well,
22:35
Speaker 1: they may have needed to win Saturday and Sunday in
22:40
Speaker 1: order to keep that dream alive, and they did narrowly,
22:44
Speaker 1: but they did. They got the job done. So three
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Speaker 1: games out of first place, three games under five hundred,
22:51
Speaker 1: two games out of the wild card certainly puts them
22:54
Speaker 1: within striking distance with almost two full months of baseball remaining.
22:59
Speaker 1: Here and we shall see what they do at the
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Speaker 1: trading deadline at three o'clock. But yesterday's win was probably
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Speaker 1: really important if in fact we get our wish of
23:10
Speaker 1: adding a piece or two before three o'clock. Today, Mariners
23:15
Speaker 1: were taking on the Twins again, trying to make it
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Speaker 1: two in a row. They had to win with a
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Speaker 1: walk off in the ninth Randy Rose Arena sliding across
23:24
Speaker 1: a home plate with a game winning run, and then
23:28
Speaker 1: yesterday looked like they were gonna cruise. George Kirby was fantastic,
23:33
Speaker 1: going seven strong innings for this team and was the
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Speaker 1: star of the Baseball Brunch on the Ground weekly cue
23:40
Speaker 1: gribos overhand toss. What a performance today from George Kirby.
23:46
Speaker 1: He absolutely torontals the Twins and retires sixteen out of
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Speaker 1: the final eighteen Twins hitters that he faces. Thanks Aaron
23:55
Speaker 1: on the call Mariners TV. That's right, George Kirby seven
23:59
Speaker 1: shutout in admitted that he was motivated by Luis Castillo
24:05
Speaker 1: trade and also the trade talk swirling around him. Said afterwards,
24:09
Speaker 1: I want to be here, I want to be on
24:10
Speaker 1: this team. I want to be in Seattle. I love
24:13
Speaker 1: it here and it was a motivating factor. He hopes
24:17
Speaker 1: that his performance yesterday will show the organization that he
24:23
Speaker 1: cannot be traded here today, even though he is still
24:27
Speaker 1: being involved in a few rumors out there. So he
24:30
Speaker 1: got the job done. Unfortunately, as bullpen did not. A
24:33
Speaker 1: Bizardo and Ferrer combined to give up five runs in
24:38
Speaker 1: the eighth inning to make it six to five, and
24:41
Speaker 1: then Andres Munos, with just a one run cushion had
24:45
Speaker 1: to be used after pitching four outs the previous night,
24:49
Speaker 1: which he's not done a lot, and so Munjos comes
24:53
Speaker 1: into the game, gives up a home run to Luke Keishaw,
24:55
Speaker 1: and suddenly from six to nothing to six to six,
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Speaker 1: George Kirby. He does not get the win, and the
25:02
Speaker 1: Mariners now have to rally in the ninth inning if
25:04
Speaker 1: they're going to pull this thing off, and they did so.
25:08
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor got the job done for this team, just
25:13
Speaker 1: some brilliance on his part. A leadoff single in the
25:16
Speaker 1: ninth and he ends up joking leek Luke Keishel, the
25:21
Speaker 1: center fielder for the Twins, getting the third runners at
25:24
Speaker 1: the corners actually runners second and third because Roblades moved
25:27
Speaker 1: up on that play. As well second and third. Colt
25:30
Speaker 1: Emerson at the play, just got to put the ball
25:32
Speaker 1: in play right, and then at one and two, maybe
25:37
Speaker 1: on the verge of getting struck out, he singles to
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Speaker 1: the right side of the infield and wins the game
25:43
Speaker 1: and walk off fashion second game in a row the
25:46
Speaker 1: MS win that way. Here is Colt Emerson after the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, the bat was was easy, just
25:54
Speaker 3: because the base running by Naylor, him getting on having
25:57
Speaker 3: a greater bat, and then getting the third base and
25:59
Speaker 3: then Lays get to hit get some third base, Like
26:03
Speaker 3: I mean that honestly, Like it doesn't take a pressure
26:05
Speaker 3: off me, but like eighty five percent of the pressure
26:09
Speaker 3: is completely off. Is all I gotta do is hit
26:10
Speaker 3: a week flight ball. I mean I've done that a
26:13
Speaker 3: million times, you know what I mean, Like like like
26:15
Speaker 3: that's all I gotta do. I and uh, in that situation,
26:19
Speaker 3: you know, I haven't been on the fastball at all
26:21
Speaker 3: this whole series.
26:22
Speaker 4: So that guy's throwing hard.
26:23
Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna get a fastball. So I gotta
26:25
Speaker 3: do is get on time with one of them. And
26:28
Speaker 3: thank god I did. How much resolved the team have
26:31
Speaker 3: I mean, like eure up six, not three, and a
26:32
Speaker 3: bunch of things go wrong with three guys that you
26:34
Speaker 3: don't start to give up homers, give up homers in
26:36
Speaker 3: sixty six one at nine.
26:38
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys put it together from a lot
26:40
Speaker 1: of teams to be like.
26:40
Speaker 3: That's just crushing, right, Yeah. I mean, I mean if
26:44
Speaker 3: you would have saw the dugout on our way in
26:47
Speaker 3: after those runs are given up, like there was no
26:50
Speaker 3: there was no miss in the energy, like like nobody
26:53
Speaker 3: was down at all, you know. I mean, at the
26:55
Speaker 3: end of the day, we get a job to do
26:57
Speaker 3: and we got a game to win, you know, like
26:58
Speaker 3: you got one more, one more real chance to do
27:02
Speaker 3: it in the game, and you know, uh, you know
27:04
Speaker 3: that's huge, especially me being young, like like having those
27:07
Speaker 3: guys have them have my back, like that's that's huge.
27:11
Speaker 4: It's huge.
27:13
Speaker 3: The slug honestly, honestly, I was still locked in on
27:18
Speaker 3: that bat that I didn't even I didn't even see it.
27:19
Speaker 3: I just saw him on the ground and I'll be honest,
27:22
Speaker 3: I didn't even see it. How important has he been
27:25
Speaker 3: to you as a mentor?
27:26
Speaker 2: Without even with the floody face first out of the dug,
27:30
Speaker 2: how did congratulate?
27:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's my locker mate.
27:34
Speaker 1: You know.
27:35
Speaker 3: Since then, since the again, he's put his arm around me,
27:37
Speaker 3: like especially, I can name five or six seven guys
27:41
Speaker 3: in this in this clubhouse that I've done the same thing,
27:44
Speaker 3: you know. But he's been a huge you know, showing
27:47
Speaker 3: me the ropes of bed and and just kind of
27:49
Speaker 3: being there for me, you know, Like I said, he's
27:51
Speaker 3: right next to me. So any question I got, he's
27:53
Speaker 3: he's one to answer, and he's he's the man. So
27:55
Speaker 3: it's fun being on to go.
27:56
Speaker 1: But Cole Emerson, our featured guest, there aren't appearance the
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Speaker 1: baseball brunch. You know. I love having featured guest stars,
28:06
Speaker 1: I know, right on the baseball brunch. Or my name's
28:09
Speaker 1: not Johnny Brinch.
28:11
Speaker 2: I don't want to tell you the truth about that,
28:13
Speaker 2: so I just go.
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Speaker 4: With it's go with it.
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Speaker 1: So what did we learn today? Kids? Let's start with
28:19
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor, because Colt's right, I mean, his base running
28:22
Speaker 1: was monstrous in that inning, not to mention just the
28:26
Speaker 1: leadoff single to begin with. I mean, think about this
28:30
Speaker 1: over the course of the last three games, going back
28:34
Speaker 1: to Friday night. I mean, he got out, but he
28:36
Speaker 1: had a line drive to left field. That was the
28:39
Speaker 1: first out of that inning, was a line drive to
28:41
Speaker 1: left field. And then in the eighth inning, I was
28:46
Speaker 1: misremembering it a little earlier in the show. It wasn't
28:49
Speaker 1: in the ninth. Randy Rose Arena, of course, got the
28:51
Speaker 1: rally started in the ninth, but in the eighth inning
28:54
Speaker 1: when they didn't come through and they didn't score, Josh
28:57
Speaker 1: Naylor with his opportunity leading off again and that's been
29:00
Speaker 1: happening way too much. Who the hell's it in front
29:02
Speaker 1: of him? He gets the base hit single, and then
29:07
Speaker 1: he steals second when they know he's going to try
29:10
Speaker 1: to steal, and he still stole, and stole it easily.
29:13
Speaker 1: Then he gets to third on the Garver ground out
29:17
Speaker 1: because he waited until the throw was made across, and
29:20
Speaker 1: he gets to third base, and then we just didn't
29:22
Speaker 1: execute and bring him in after that. But he got
29:25
Speaker 1: the job done the day before, both at the plate
29:27
Speaker 1: and on the base paths. And then yesterday the single,
29:32
Speaker 1: the juke of to start an inning, the juke of
29:34
Speaker 1: Keishel to get to third base, even if it was
29:38
Speaker 1: a catastrophic looking slide, and then comes out of the game,
29:43
Speaker 1: and then you get the Emerson base hit. But but
29:46
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor willed this team uh here in the Cup.
29:49
Speaker 1: His his attitude, I think has has kind of looked
29:54
Speaker 1: very leader like here over the course of the weekend.
29:58
Speaker 1: And we need it, We need all to help we
30:00
Speaker 1: can get and Josh Naylor looks like he's ready Ashley
30:03
Speaker 1: to step up at this time of the season. And
30:05
Speaker 1: he's at I thought, a lackluster year and has been
30:08
Speaker 1: lacks a daisical at times, and I don't know if
30:11
Speaker 1: he's been the leader that he was labeled as being
30:15
Speaker 1: for this team, but as of late, he seems like
30:19
Speaker 1: the guy who's playing with the edge that this team
30:22
Speaker 1: needs to win one run games like they have the
30:25
Speaker 1: last two days.
30:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, it was quite frustrating watching him
30:28
Speaker 2: in part of the beginning part of the season because
30:31
Speaker 2: it did it seemed like when he was when he
30:32
Speaker 2: got here last year, his defense at first base was
30:35
Speaker 2: so incredible and the just the way that he was
30:39
Speaker 2: kind of already stepping in and leading this team, and
30:41
Speaker 2: then that disappeared. And I understand that that defense we
30:44
Speaker 2: saw last year with the anomaly, that was not how
30:46
Speaker 2: he generally has played defense. But we know he has
30:48
Speaker 2: it in him. So to come back this year and
30:51
Speaker 2: then you don't see it and don't see that spark
30:53
Speaker 2: that he's providing as often to see it now in
30:56
Speaker 2: these last couple of weeks. I think he's a huge deal.
30:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think something went off, some switch flipped in
31:02
Speaker 1: his head. He even got his haircut for goodness sake.
31:05
Speaker 1: I think there's just a little more of a soldier's
31:07
Speaker 1: mentality from Josh Naylor here as of late, and I
31:11
Speaker 1: think it's rubbing off on some people, and obviously Colt
31:13
Speaker 1: Emerson appreciates it because he does nothing but the lawd
31:18
Speaker 1: Josh Naylor. Also, what we learned today is George Kirby
31:21
Speaker 1: wants to be here, and I hope that they grant
31:23
Speaker 1: that request. I hope we are not reading about a
31:26
Speaker 1: George Kirby trade later on today. I think that would
31:28
Speaker 1: be massively disappointing and the end excuse me. The other
31:32
Speaker 1: thing we learned is that the ms are still alive.
31:35
Speaker 1: They really are. I mean, you do have head to
31:38
Speaker 1: head matchups against the Astros, who the Mariners have dominated
31:42
Speaker 1: this season and to a degree last season as well,
31:45
Speaker 1: and so I think they're in this as disappointing as
31:49
Speaker 1: they've been as gross as that record looks, overall, the
31:54
Speaker 1: American League has cooperated, the American League West has cooperated,
31:58
Speaker 1: and they can play as badly as they could play
32:01
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen games into the season, and yet
32:04
Speaker 1: they are within just a good weekend and an astro
32:08
Speaker 1: bad weekend of being back in first place. And so
32:12
Speaker 1: I say you go for it. I say you can't
32:16
Speaker 1: abandon the hopes and wishes that you add at the
32:20
Speaker 1: beginning of the year when you're this close. I know
32:23
Speaker 1: how ugly the team has played at times here as
32:26
Speaker 1: of late, and it doesn't seem like they can get
32:28
Speaker 1: into any kind of groove. But this is like your
32:32
Speaker 1: opportunity today to announce we're still in this and we're
32:37
Speaker 1: going for it. And that's what I want to see
32:41
Speaker 1: out of the end of the day. I would like
32:42
Speaker 1: to see this team not only not trade Kirby or
32:45
Speaker 1: Rose Arena, but add to it. Before three o'clock, all right,
32:48
Speaker 1: coming up next, can't battle. Yeah, we'll squeeze in a
32:51
Speaker 1: little more football here today before we get back to
32:54
Speaker 1: Trade deadline day at nine o'clock. Sports Radio ninety three
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Speaker 1: point three KHARFM Trading Deadline, which we'll get back to
33:00
Speaker 1: that conversation at nine o'clock today, But right now a
33:03
Speaker 1: camp battle, Tina Turner expects it, so we deliver here.
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Speaker 1: During the course of our training camp coverage, more than
33:11
Speaker 1: two men have entered the running back competition for carries
33:15
Speaker 1: this upcoming season. Zach Charbonay watching from the sidelines as
33:21
Speaker 1: George Halani tries to take over the RB one role
33:25
Speaker 1: with first round pick Jadarian Price being given a crash
33:29
Speaker 1: course on football at the professional level throughout this training
33:34
Speaker 1: camp's been a huge topic. And then there's a Manuel
33:37
Speaker 1: Wilson added in the offseason as well. And Manuel Wilson
33:41
Speaker 1: told me himself today at seven forty five. The Jacartian
33:45
Speaker 1: Wright also a part of this equation. So it's a battle.
33:49
Speaker 1: It is an all out battle for priority carry priority
33:54
Speaker 1: heading into this football season. In the running back room,
33:58
Speaker 1: I asked Greg Bell, with Emmanuel Wilson coming on later
34:02
Speaker 1: in the show, to tell us how he's fitting into
34:05
Speaker 1: this running back camp battle.
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Speaker 4: Well. Emany Wilson has had a few snaps with the
34:10
Speaker 4: ones in some of the days, but it's still clearly
34:13
Speaker 4: Jerian Price and George Hallani as the starters alternating. It
34:17
Speaker 4: depends sometimes on the day, but Saturday we'd blast Pactice
34:20
Speaker 4: say they were off yesterday. Saturday was more a little
34:24
Speaker 4: more of a Hallani as the first back at the
34:26
Speaker 4: start of drives and then Price. It's still a lot
34:30
Speaker 4: of throwing, including Wilson. Wilson runs heavier. He just he's
34:36
Speaker 4: a bigger guy, not quite as tall as certainly not
34:39
Speaker 4: as sleek as Price. He's a little taller than Hallani.
34:43
Speaker 4: He I'm gonna make some Seayork fans nervous when I
34:46
Speaker 4: say this. He reminds me of Eddie Lacy, but he's
34:49
Speaker 4: not nearly as heavy and he's not quite as big,
34:52
Speaker 4: but he runs like him, more of a thudder and
34:56
Speaker 4: try to run you over type of guy. He also
34:58
Speaker 4: wears Lacey's old number twenty seven at Lacey Warrior. Not
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Speaker 4: very distinguishingly, but he seems to be He's not quite
35:07
Speaker 4: a bowling ball type of back, but he seems to
35:09
Speaker 4: be the thunder to the more lightning type of Price.
35:13
Speaker 4: We'll see if there's a role. Wilson has an not guaranteed,
35:17
Speaker 4: just about minimum salary deal for just one year, so
35:20
Speaker 4: they have structured it where if they need if he
35:22
Speaker 4: doesn't work out it, I don't think they like what
35:24
Speaker 4: they see there. That he may not make the team.
35:27
Speaker 4: But we talk all the time about how many running
35:29
Speaker 4: backs they need, how many they go through, and how
35:31
Speaker 4: injured the position is. It appears there's a role for
35:34
Speaker 4: him and he's just off the custom of the ones
35:38
Speaker 4: doing a lot of stuff with the two.
35:40
Speaker 1: Greg Bell with us earlier in the show. If you
35:43
Speaker 1: want to hear the entire conversation, you could do so
35:44
Speaker 1: at ninety three three KJR dot com. Check out our
35:47
Speaker 1: podcast every single day. I mean, now you get into
35:51
Speaker 1: the part of our camp battle. This is the third
35:54
Speaker 1: time we'd done running back camp Battle here in our
35:57
Speaker 1: two weeks. We're probably going to be updating it quite
35:59
Speaker 1: a bit throughout the training camp process. So now we
36:03
Speaker 1: get to the repetitive process where I say, I do
36:06
Speaker 1: expect jadarian In Price to be RB one this season,
36:12
Speaker 1: and even when Sharbonay returns, I think ideally you're hoping
36:16
Speaker 1: that he hits the ground running, that he is your
36:19
Speaker 1: ken Walker or at least a similar type back that
36:24
Speaker 1: can be used in similar ways. And then Zach Charbonay
36:27
Speaker 1: gets to keep the role that he had a year ago. Now,
36:33
Speaker 1: George Hallani, I think is going to be given the nod,
36:36
Speaker 1: and it might be just a courtesy nod. He'll be
36:39
Speaker 1: announced as the starter on opening day, but I think
36:42
Speaker 1: by opening day, even on opening Day Wednesday night, Jadarian
36:46
Speaker 1: Price is going to end up with more carries then
36:49
Speaker 1: George Hallani and ultimately is going to be the RB one,
36:54
Speaker 1: probably from Game one to the end of the season.
36:57
Speaker 1: But certainly we'll have a lot to measure. And if
37:00
Speaker 1: there is a position you mentioned this last week, I
37:03
Speaker 1: mentioned it before. There is a position where somebody can
37:06
Speaker 1: come up on the outside, somebody that can make a
37:09
Speaker 1: lot of noise in a camp battle a Jaccardian wright perhaps.
37:14
Speaker 1: Maybe it is this position where you know, some sort
37:18
Speaker 1: of underdog, some sort of long shot, can really make
37:21
Speaker 1: some noise at this camp. I think that the doors
37:25
Speaker 1: open as well. All right, Coming up next, we'll talk
37:28
Speaker 1: about trade deadline day, not just the Mariners, Trek Scooble
37:32
Speaker 1: and the broken system. We'll do it next. Sports Radio
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