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The Holiday with Rebecca Bulnes · The Bechdel Cast

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Speaker 1: On the dol cast. The questions asked if movies have
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Speaker 1: women and are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands?
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Speaker 1: Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef and best start
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Speaker 1: changing it with the bec Del Cast. Hello, welcome to
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Speaker 1: the bec Del Cast. Why is Jamie cast? We're going
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Speaker 1: And I'm personally I was, how can I not have
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Speaker 1: because this is a kind of want to drink about
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Speaker 1: because yeah, I'm very excited anyways. Uh yeah, if anyone
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Speaker 1: all out of sorts. Well, hey, maybe we'll get back
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Speaker 1: on track in our lives with this episode of cinema. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so let's introduce our guess. I want excited. However, I
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Speaker 1: just I full this closure. I just recorded an episode
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Speaker 1: of her amazing podcast. I never heard of it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She's also written for The A V Club. Rebecca Bono,
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Speaker 1: My god, I wrote about you, and now I'm here.
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Speaker 1: I'm god. I did it. You manifested, We manifested. It
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Speaker 1: was a mute manifest. Mute manifest. That's what I live for.
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Speaker 1: That's how I make anything happening in my scream of
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Speaker 1: That's also the name of the man who does my
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Speaker 1: Here's something I've been doing recently that really throws people
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Speaker 1: for a loop is if you introduce your friend as like,
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Speaker 1: this is an associate of mine, and they'll be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: like there, it suddenly implies like a level of business
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Speaker 1: to your friendship that simply does not exist. We should
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Speaker 1: go on calling each other our associated in my business. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you don't actually don't say business, say associate. Let's figure
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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, that's like, oh, how are you guys
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Speaker 1: associating because that's all it means we've associated, which we have, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: pretty blatantly. I think it's on the record that you've associated. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's there's too much of a trail to be able
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Speaker 1: to erase the fact that we have at many points
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Speaker 1: associated at least on at least fifty occasions. We've associated
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Speaker 1: at least once a week for the past year. So right, so, like,
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Speaker 1: what's the endgame? What's the plan? We don't know. We'll
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Speaker 1: find out. Hey, let's talk about a movie. So, Rebecca,
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Speaker 1: you've brought us the Holiday. You also overruled the movie
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Speaker 1: we suggested for the Holiday, Okay, because here's the thing.
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Speaker 1: I was into the idea, but then I was watching
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Speaker 1: The Holiday with myself with wine on Thanksgiving and I
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Speaker 1: was like, wow, I mean the Holiday right, guys, right here?
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Speaker 1: So I did have to pitch it because I'm thrilled.
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Speaker 1: You dead, I'm glad. I mean, I've put you through
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Speaker 1: something with this movie. But I hope you loved it.
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Speaker 1: It was loved the experience. I've seen this movie several times. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I had not, and it's going to be very dramatic. Basically,
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Speaker 1: Caitlyn plus Roncom is like me plus any movie with
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Speaker 1: like a robot in it. I'm like, God, I'm exhausted.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is, did I know that? Yes? Did
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Speaker 1: I did. I were fully aware of how this would
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Speaker 1: go a little bit, not like in a predictable way,
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Speaker 1: but I was like, yeah, it could be fun. Well,
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Speaker 1: I loved hating it that. Yeah, it's a fun, great
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Speaker 1: time hating it. It really is. There is some I
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Speaker 1: mean and watching it, I mean, I feel like there's
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Speaker 1: so many red flags for this movie, even when you're
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Speaker 1: not watching it for its treatment of women. It's just
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Speaker 1: a gigantic they're so okay, let's okay. So wait when
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Speaker 1: did you first see The Holiday? Okay? So I have
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Speaker 1: like a long history of The Holiday just watching it
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Speaker 1: with my mom. It's very much a me and my
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Speaker 1: mom movie. Her like one is Jude Law. She's she
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Speaker 1: loves to talk about how she would cheat on my stepdad,
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Speaker 1: like and growing up, I was I thought I was
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Speaker 1: really cool. So because I was like, um, I'm into
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Speaker 1: Bamar Jarra, so I'm gonna call Jude Law Judy Lacks.
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Speaker 1: I was like I would make fun of her because
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, he's like a pretty boy.
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Speaker 1: And of course now I'm like I would do anything
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Speaker 1: to fuck you with Law, right, Like he's beautiful, out
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Speaker 1: of gorgeous with Jude Law. But yeah, so I've seen
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Speaker 1: it like many many times. We always watch it in
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Speaker 1: the holiday seasons and and I can't stop. And it's
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Speaker 1: a part of me. And there are like specific lines
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Speaker 1: that like I have the line delivery like in my
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Speaker 1: head ingrained that I'll mention them when they come up.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I've seen it many many times, and um,
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Speaker 1: most of it's for Jack Black. Jack Black, who, by
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Speaker 1: the way, this movie could not want you to know
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Speaker 1: that it does not find Jack Black attractive. That first
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Speaker 1: fucking shot where they're like clearly love it, You're just like,
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Speaker 1: what the fuck? Why would he be? God? I was
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Speaker 1: so on Jack black side until I was very suddenly like,
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Speaker 1: wait a second, he's cheating on his girlfriend. Yeah, why
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Speaker 1: is this? There's a lot and so wait you saw
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Speaker 1: this movie for the first time, yeah, like a couple
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Speaker 1: of days ago, and I went into it pretty much
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Speaker 1: assuming that I was not going to enjoy it, And
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Speaker 1: turns out I was right. I don't think you know
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Speaker 1: yourself if well. I have had known about this movie
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Speaker 1: since it came out in like two six and you
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Speaker 1: know it's the movie where Cameron Diaz and Kate Win's
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Speaker 1: a switch houses during Christmas time and novel pre Airbnb,
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Speaker 1: right fun, I love an early internet movie, right, which
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Speaker 1: also features a Blockbuster movie scene with the Dustin Hoffman.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that didn't go anywhere. They're just like yeah. Also,
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Speaker 1: Jack Black's character, who's like a film composer, has the
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Speaker 1: most basic taste. He's like humming, gone with the wind.
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Speaker 1: This this is just like, um, what a little little
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Speaker 1: basic bitch in terms of his knowledge of his own profession. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: when who do you first seen the movie, Jamie? Oh uh,
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Speaker 1: probably within a year of it coming out. I want
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Speaker 1: to say, this movie, I think came out when I
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Speaker 1: was in middle school, and so it was like perfect
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Speaker 1: in terms of like this is only me and my
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Speaker 1: mom can watch together. That's like not too raunchy, but
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Speaker 1: it's also like girls. Yeah, like, yeah, it sounds like
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Speaker 1: a similar deal where I first saw it with my
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Speaker 1: mom and then it's never been like one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite favorites. But I remember my first Christmas in l A.
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Speaker 1: With the first Christmas, I didn't go home. I met
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Speaker 1: up with a bunch of friends when we all watched Holiday.
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Speaker 1: I went to a Christmas party yesterday afternoon and this
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Speaker 1: movie was playing on the TV and I didn't know
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Speaker 1: anyone there except for the host, and I just loudly
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Speaker 1: announced how much I hate this movie. And everyone's like,
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Speaker 1: oh God, what did Who's that? And when I sheet
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Speaker 1: like I was instantly hate it by everyone there, Well,
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Speaker 1: you can't just talk about the holiday like that, to
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Speaker 1: be fair, you can't just like do that. I like
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Speaker 1: how it does just elicit such a visceral reaction while
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Speaker 1: not not actually being good, and I'm like, right, like
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Speaker 1: I get it, I do, I really do. Well, let
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Speaker 1: me do the Recapuh So, the Holiday is about Cameron
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Speaker 1: Diaz and Kate Winslet. They've both been unlucky in love
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Speaker 1: and they're also doing this movie for sort of everyone
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Speaker 1: involved is a victory lap of sorts like there no
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Speaker 1: one's here to make history. Although I will say it
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Speaker 1: is an actor's film, so not a tum poem. It's
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Speaker 1: more of an actor I think it's also am There's
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Speaker 1: certain parts of it I have a lot of hearty depth,
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Speaker 1: and other parts of it do not. But it is
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Speaker 1: an actor's film and a tom film. Okay. I'd also
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Speaker 1: just like to add really using voice over for what
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Speaker 1: it's meant to be, you know, just very much like
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Speaker 1: that's like the tone of all of the voiceovers, like
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Speaker 1: I am sucking acting. I'm Kate Winslett. I am acting
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Speaker 1: a movie. But she's also giving it se and the
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Speaker 1: fights over she's not giving it her all. She's saving
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Speaker 1: her all for the Reader or whatever other movie she
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Speaker 1: was in. It came out around this time. She can't
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Speaker 1: be giving this movie a percent just to conserve her energy,
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Speaker 1: although he will say I was fully triggered by her. Um,
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Speaker 1: what is it that she plays air guitar too? She
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Speaker 1: wants the song? She plays air guitar in the stud Okay, wait,
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Speaker 1: I remember it's very guitar Oh to a Jet song?
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be mic? It explicably just playing air
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Speaker 1: guitar and Cameron Diaz is bad because she's thrilled about
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's it seems it wasn't sure the
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Speaker 1: context of the team, but she woke up and it
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Speaker 1: was day and then a Jet song turned out excited
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Speaker 1: and she just like was like I can't not no, no,
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Speaker 1: And she even goes she goes, thank you, Amanda, like
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Speaker 1: she right because she had that selection. Imagine bonding with
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Speaker 1: another woman because it's like, oh you love Jet, I
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Speaker 1: love Jets one song? Oh god, And in two thousand six,
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Speaker 1: this would have been a lot of work to program
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Speaker 1: this into your alarmlocked, like you couldn't just wake up
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Speaker 1: to Jet I'm sure. Yeah. She was rich and so
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Speaker 1: she could wake up. She was so rich and she
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Speaker 1: house shamed Kate Winslet for having a small house, you know,
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Speaker 1: and they're like, fucking high, but she's just like my house,
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Speaker 1: well it's a little bit bigger than yours, not that
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Speaker 1: that's hard, and it's like, you bitch house shame her? Okay,
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Speaker 1: really quick, before I know we're okay. But who do
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Speaker 1: you of the four, who do you hate the most? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: But I also, I mean, normally I think I would
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Speaker 1: hate law that's the obvious answer, but it might be
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Speaker 1: Jack Black. I know I wouldn't have said this, but
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Speaker 1: this time he's Tea's cheating on his girlfriend and then
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Speaker 1: he's like, why did my girlfriend? He he catches his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend cheating on him while he's also cheating on his
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Speaker 1: girlfriend taking another woman out on a date, and then
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Speaker 1: goes home and he's like, sucks out down, I'm such
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Speaker 1: a nice guy, Like it's just experiating. It's okay. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: Well that and then Jack Black can't not just like
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Speaker 1: mug for he can't act. This is your problem with
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Speaker 1: Jack Black. Everyone loves about him, and I love it.
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Speaker 1: But because I love when he's mugging in this movie.
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Speaker 1: I love when he's every part every time. The only time.
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Speaker 1: The only reason they made him like a music supervisor
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Speaker 1: in this movie is so he could do his little
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Speaker 1: It was like, this is the most romantic scene he's
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Speaker 1: in and the entire movie, Jude Law is constantly panting,
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Speaker 1: just here's the thing, Howard and sweat. Fuck boy man.
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Speaker 1: You say that Jack Black is not a bad actor,
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Speaker 1: but I just have to point you to to the
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Speaker 1: to the line delivery. That is one of the funniest
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Speaker 1: things is is officially crazy weather. That scene makes me
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Speaker 1: laugh every fucking time. Do you know how it wasn't
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Speaker 1: that funny when I did it. It's because Jack Black
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Speaker 1: is just really he doesn't does this thing? Does this
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Speaker 1: space is so funny And I'm like, you know what,
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Speaker 1: it is crazy weather, And that's hilarious to point that out.
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Speaker 1: Some of Jack Black's linaries in this movie are baffling.
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Speaker 1: Where there's that scene. Okay, first of all, this movie
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Speaker 1: it's too long. It's so it's like two hours and
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Speaker 1: forty it's like a Lord of the Rings movie. I
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Speaker 1: forgot how long. And there's there's certain scenes that you're
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Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I'd lose that. What is that doing? Now?
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Speaker 1: The whole I Plant with the old man, it literally
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Speaker 1: there is absolutely no purpose for it. It's done so
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Speaker 1: much of the movie falling in love with that old man. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's so weird. Well, I guess he wants her to
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Speaker 1: have gumption. He needs to tell her to be a
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Speaker 1: strong woman. I don't know that's a thing, that whole being.
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Speaker 1: And then like all this weird old Hollywood. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: who is this for? It's very unnecessary. It was very weird.
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Speaker 1: So there's the old man. But there's one part where
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Speaker 1: I guess the plot needs to justify Jack Black constantly
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Speaker 1: hanging out with Kate Winslet in spite of the fact
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Speaker 1: that he like, just make him not have a girlfriend.
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Speaker 1: Write that up, that's easy. Whatever. But he comes over
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Speaker 1: because he's Cameron Diaz, his ex boyfriend's friend, colleague associate
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Speaker 1: Eddie Burns, Eddie Burns Eddie Burns, who delivers some choice
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Speaker 1: exposition in the beginning. He's just basically here, all yours
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Speaker 1: you can't be in relationship, and it says not. So
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Speaker 1: Jack Black comes over and she's like, sorry, this old
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Speaker 1: person I met wants to have a Hanagah dinner because
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Speaker 1: a last and I don't know unclear. So Jack Black
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Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I want to join in. It's like okay,
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Speaker 1: But then Jack Black joins the party and gives some
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Speaker 1: of the most insane. The way Jack Black talks to
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Speaker 1: old people in this movie is crazy, Like he talks
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Speaker 1: like he's like a wizard to old people, Like he's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'll be giving you a call to play par cheesy
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Speaker 1: like social social butterflies, condescending to the elderly. I loved it.
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Speaker 1: I mean that said. I loved it, and I love
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Speaker 1: Jack Black, and I'm a big Jack Black defender. His
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Speaker 1: character shouldn't have been chaned on his girlfriend though his
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Speaker 1: character is the first person you see on screen and
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Speaker 1: then he does, Okay, here's the thing. Not only that
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Speaker 1: he's like the first person you see, it's like I
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Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't actually come back until like forty
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Speaker 1: five minutes, like they really wait to actually dude. Law
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Speaker 1: doesn't show up for a long time too, which is like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess it's about the two women, but like still
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Speaker 1: like Kate to the post Kate and you know, But honestly,
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Speaker 1: I feel like all of the Jack Black stuff happens fully,
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Speaker 1: like in the third act, like fully, it's it's like
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Speaker 1: remember the guy from the beginning who he's going he
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Speaker 1: said he looked like remember the guy who said looked
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Speaker 1: like shit at the beginning of the movie, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: bring him back now and now he's gonna be dating
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Speaker 1: Kate Winslett Like that's doesn't doesn't And I would argue
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Speaker 1: biggest problem with the film is that there's actually not
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Speaker 1: enough tack Black is what I would say. I'm on
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Speaker 1: board with that. I'm only unbalanced movie. I'm only not
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Speaker 1: super annoyed by him in this movie because he has
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Speaker 1: so little screen time. See, I would say, replaced all
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Speaker 1: the weird old man stuff with like Kate Winslett and
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Speaker 1: Jack Black doing something because or her just randized what
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Speaker 1: were you doing? Or just like pursuing a personal endeavor
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Speaker 1: of hers or like I mean, we'll get into this,
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Speaker 1: but like the two storylines of Cameron diez Is during
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Speaker 1: Kate Win's, that's character are just like how their lives
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Speaker 1: are framed around the men that they know and or
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Speaker 1: are trying to get over, or the new men that
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Speaker 1: they're getting involved with. It's just like what about any
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Speaker 1: other part of your life? Oh no, I mean in
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Speaker 1: the in the beginning Kate Win's, it's like real upset
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Speaker 1: because Jasper right, Jasper her like love boy who is
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Speaker 1: now getting engaged. I forgot about this until I rewatched
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Speaker 1: it recently. She's so devastated and she's like crying like
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Speaker 1: a child. Um and there's like a casual like suicide
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Speaker 1: attack joke. I guess like not even she she she
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Speaker 1: like turns the gas on and she like almost to
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Speaker 1: breathe it. She almost fully plaths out. And you're just like,
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Speaker 1: what's in the first like ten minutes of the guy,
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Speaker 1: because she goes from sobbing is so much? This is
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Speaker 1: so much. I have a hundred pages of notes for this,
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Speaker 1: and we're not going to be able to get to
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Speaker 1: at all. There was Paul Read in this movie for
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Speaker 1: like two seconds, no, not thinking of John John Zinski.
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Speaker 1: And I noticed John because I thought I saw Paul.
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Speaker 1: I thought like Paul Red had to be an. I
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Speaker 1: thought he had to be in every movie between two thousand.
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Speaker 1: I thought I saw him. Maybe I didn't. I don't
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Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, I guess he would have made himself known, right,
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Speaker 1: he's the famous. But just to go so to go
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Speaker 1: over the story super quickly, So Cameron Diaz, whose character's
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Speaker 1: name is Amanda, and Kate Winslet, whose character's name is Iris.
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Speaker 1: They switch houses because they've both been like, oh, I
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Speaker 1: found out the guy who was in love with just
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Speaker 1: gone engaged, or oh my living boyfriend Ed Burns is
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Speaker 1: cheating on me. The Christmas holidays coming up, and they're like,
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Speaker 1: what if I just get away from it all? So
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Speaker 1: they decide to switch houses on the Internetois for a movie, Yes,
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Speaker 1: but I would argue that it makes no sense for
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Speaker 1: it to be set at Christmas time. In fact that
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Speaker 1: I feel like it was like they not have families
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Speaker 1: at all, that was that something that never comes out.
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Speaker 1: And then also Kate Win's let we find out later
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Speaker 1: in a weird twist, has two adorable nieces that she
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Speaker 1: does and totally fails on. And they don't have a mom.
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Speaker 1: This is like like one of their first Christmas is
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Speaker 1: without a mom. She's like, actually, I'm really bummed out.
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Speaker 1: Got to get out of here. Kind of selfish guys.
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Speaker 1: I have a theory that the first draft of this
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Speaker 1: script was not set at Christmas time, but then they
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Speaker 1: got like a studio note, They're like, let's make it
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Speaker 1: a Christmas movie because at no point do they celebrate
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Speaker 1: Christmas or and most of Christmas and a bunch of
18:29
Speaker 1: things happen. Then it makes no sense for it to
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Speaker 1: be said at Christmas time, like the w G a
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Speaker 1: tribute to Arthur and his career. They're like, yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is on Christmas Day. Why did w G A a
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Speaker 1: major plot point in this movie? I don't get it
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Speaker 1: there the whole I totally for I haven't seen this movie,
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Speaker 1: and I think two years before last night and I
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Speaker 1: completely forgot the old Man. I was like, oh yeah,
18:52
Speaker 1: and then you're like, but wait, this movie, this part
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Speaker 1: takes up forty five minutes. Why you know what it is?
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Speaker 1: It's because this movie is I'm actually a movie for
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Speaker 1: like a fans of cinema. You know. It's a love
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Speaker 1: letter to to writing. It's a love letter to writing.
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Speaker 1: And it's a screenwriter's film. It's a director's film. Up like,
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Speaker 1: we can't for a movie that talks about screenwriting a
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Speaker 1: lot um not great writing. And I feel bad for
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Speaker 1: hating this movie so much because it was written and
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Speaker 1: directed by a woman. Nancy You know what she's hands this.
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Speaker 1: She did bad. She did a bad job. I think, Okay,
19:30
Speaker 1: so Nancy Myers film. Uh, there's there's a lot. There's
19:34
Speaker 1: one of my faves parents Trap ninety eight, Dennis Quade
19:38
Speaker 1: wet Something's got to give. I have not seen that
19:43
Speaker 1: what women want with mel Gibson. Uh where mel Gibson
19:49
Speaker 1: reads women's mind the Honday, it's complicated the intern like,
19:55
Speaker 1: it's good that she has a job. However, we the
20:00
Speaker 1: exception of parent trap. What maybe her body of work
20:04
Speaker 1: isn't very good? Listen. I think it's the ultimate feminism
20:07
Speaker 1: to be able to declare another woman mediocre. It's haven't
20:12
Speaker 1: we achieved a quality where we can be like, you
20:14
Speaker 1: know what, I don't care for it if you're gonna
20:16
Speaker 1: have to censor your opinions about Nancy, for feminism is
20:20
Speaker 1: a feminism? No, I don't right exactly? You know what, Nancy,
20:27
Speaker 1: she's a great jobs. I've seen this movie more than
20:30
Speaker 1: most movies in my life this many times. I do
20:34
Speaker 1: genuinely like, I don't. I don't know if I can
20:36
Speaker 1: say I like the Holiday after this viewing, but I
20:41
Speaker 1: think I still like, like, I know, I'll watch it again.
20:44
Speaker 1: I don't know what that says about me, trying to think, like,
20:46
Speaker 1: what else plot wise is it? So? Um Irish lives
20:50
Speaker 1: in Surrey and um Amanda lives in l A. And
20:57
Speaker 1: they decided to switch houses. So at a moment notice,
21:00
Speaker 1: because even though it's you know, five days before Christmas,
21:04
Speaker 1: tickets would have been thousands of dollars. They both seem
21:07
Speaker 1: to have limitless means, it seems to yeah, and Kate
21:11
Speaker 1: Winslet as a wedding writer, it's just like, yeah, cool, sure,
21:16
Speaker 1: you're a millionaire. So it doesn't make any sense. So
21:20
Speaker 1: they switch houses to escape from the love situations that
21:24
Speaker 1: are plaguing them, the romantic entanglements that they want to
21:27
Speaker 1: get away from it, and Cameron Diaz really spells it out.
21:29
Speaker 1: She says, I have to ask is there any men
21:31
Speaker 1: in your town? And then Kate ties back zero, you know,
21:37
Speaker 1: because she actually lives on Famous Gara, the island at
21:40
Speaker 1: the beginning of Wonder Woman where it's just a bunch
21:42
Speaker 1: of Amazon women and no men. So that's a fun
21:45
Speaker 1: plot twist that none of us stopped coming. But okay,
21:49
Speaker 1: so Amanda shows up in England and she's like there
21:52
Speaker 1: for a while, and then she's like, oh, I'm bored,
21:55
Speaker 1: a better drink some wine. And then who comes knocking? Women? Wine?
22:00
Speaker 1: Who comes knocking at her door? But Jude law Iris's
22:04
Speaker 1: hot brother, and he's like, oh wow, oh that's exactly
22:09
Speaker 1: when he comes. And then one thing leads to another
22:14
Speaker 1: in the five minutes that they interact and then suddenly
22:17
Speaker 1: they have sex. Meanwhile, Iris is in l a and
22:22
Speaker 1: then she befriends an old man and then kind of
22:24
Speaker 1: dates Jack Black. That's pretty much so were like. And
22:28
Speaker 1: then the last scene of the movie they all go
22:31
Speaker 1: back to Sorry for New Year's makes zero sense to me.
22:35
Speaker 1: The last did I never thought about it before this
22:38
Speaker 1: viewing of like what an uncomfortable Okay, Karen Diaz and
22:43
Speaker 1: Jude Law, who is Caitlinslet's brother, and then Cameron Diaz
22:49
Speaker 1: is ex boyfriend's friend slash associate slash associate Lourescent World
22:57
Speaker 1: to be at a New York party. And also there's
22:59
Speaker 1: child I hate that there's children involved. I'm bad for
23:01
Speaker 1: all the kids, Okay, I just all I have is questions.
23:04
Speaker 1: Jude Law leaves his children on Christmas Eve to Cameron Diaz.
23:08
Speaker 1: Y yeah, who appreciates. I mean, though he does say
23:15
Speaker 1: I am daddy in this film, which shout out fran
23:17
Speaker 1: Hoffner for really pointing that out and making that an
23:19
Speaker 1: Internet moment um I am um. Is he a good daddy? Well?
23:29
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean he's going through a ship.
23:32
Speaker 1: His wife Don died but like a year ago and
23:36
Speaker 1: he seems to be stealing away to fun random women.
23:40
Speaker 1: Yeah all the time, he says. He's like, oh, when
23:43
Speaker 1: I find myself at the local pub all drunk and
23:46
Speaker 1: like not able to get crash on my sister's, it's
23:49
Speaker 1: like this is very sad. Yeah, this is okay, Okay,
23:53
Speaker 1: here's a scene to hone in on every scene with
23:56
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz and Jude Law and bananas. I just say
24:00
Speaker 1: one thing about Cameron Diaz right now, like I think
24:02
Speaker 1: we just do need to say it, is that, Wow,
24:05
Speaker 1: what's happening? Um? She is like overacting is an understanding.
24:10
Speaker 1: She kind of is like a high schooler and a
24:13
Speaker 1: place she's like nod on senior year. It's wild, gunning
24:19
Speaker 1: for an award. Yeah, like not charming. It's like it's irritating.
24:24
Speaker 1: It so annoying. It's a lot, and it's god the
24:27
Speaker 1: and Kate wins pushing it with the whole jet. But
24:31
Speaker 1: you can tell that wasn't her idea. Like the way
24:34
Speaker 1: that I look at it is that like Cameron Diaz
24:36
Speaker 1: is like trying to act. Kate One's is just having fun,
24:39
Speaker 1: you know, like you know I would love you know,
24:42
Speaker 1: her kids need to go to college or whatever. Cameron
24:44
Speaker 1: Diaz seems to be the only person in this movie
24:46
Speaker 1: who's taking the movie weirdly serious, Like she's like, this
24:50
Speaker 1: is a big role. Well, this is her like Wheelhouse,
24:53
Speaker 1: this is the type of role she always gets cast in,
24:55
Speaker 1: and she's living it up. She literally like there's like
24:59
Speaker 1: another an explicable minute long scene of like why is
25:02
Speaker 1: it here where Cameron Diaz drunkenly faces off with a
25:05
Speaker 1: dog and they do like I wrote that down because
25:08
Speaker 1: you know what, that dog is an act better than
25:12
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz. No, I literally wrote that downing dog acting.
25:17
Speaker 1: But just since you brought up Jet, should we talk
25:19
Speaker 1: about how she jams out to the Killers, Mr Bryan,
25:23
Speaker 1: Mr Bride, Yeah, there's oh god, it is the mid
25:26
Speaker 1: odds in this movie. And that's another thing that's like
25:29
Speaker 1: one of the like I mentioned, one of those things
25:30
Speaker 1: that's in my brain forever is the way that she
25:32
Speaker 1: sings along to smoking or what are on your Oh
25:38
Speaker 1: it's just like yeah, the like is this a joke
25:42
Speaker 1: to you? Like why are you? And I God, I
25:45
Speaker 1: can just picture like Cameron Diaz going up to nanthy
25:48
Speaker 1: Myers and be like I'm gonna try something and she's like,
25:52
Speaker 1: go for a cam and them Kim does that fucking
25:56
Speaker 1: thing and she's like, cut love it. This movie is
25:59
Speaker 1: six hours long, so we have to keep moving. Oh
26:02
Speaker 1: my god, I also forgot these women talk to themselves.
26:05
Speaker 1: So in this movie, yeah, I mean, and we're coming
26:08
Speaker 1: off a die Hard episode and it was a lot
26:10
Speaker 1: compared to die Hard. Kevin Diaz is a monologue. She's God,
26:16
Speaker 1: there's so there's so much. There's the first scene in
26:20
Speaker 1: this movie which does at one point pass the mental
26:23
Speaker 1: test Kate Winslet, where she's just sulking around this Christmas party.
26:29
Speaker 1: We learn about Jasper, who's her boss that she's in
26:32
Speaker 1: love with, and he comes over and he's like, you're hot,
26:36
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, I got you a present, and
26:40
Speaker 1: then she goes out. She goes she goes out, and
26:44
Speaker 1: then like immediately finds out that not only is he
26:47
Speaker 1: getting married, but she has to write about it for
26:49
Speaker 1: some reason. But they have an exchange in there where
26:52
Speaker 1: it's just Kate Winslett and Jasper. We don't need to
26:55
Speaker 1: refer to the main for actors by anything other than
26:58
Speaker 1: the yeah are so Kate wins and Jasper are talking
27:01
Speaker 1: in the room and the Vegas. It's a great vague
27:04
Speaker 1: business conversation where she's like, you've got a new thing,
27:08
Speaker 1: you got promoted, and he was like, yeah, well it
27:11
Speaker 1: took a lot of work, but couldn't have done it
27:13
Speaker 1: without the work of you as well, and she's like excellent.
27:18
Speaker 1: It's like where do they work? What is happening? This
27:20
Speaker 1: could be anything. We later found out that she and
27:23
Speaker 1: her brother both work in publishing. Publishing a very lucrative
27:28
Speaker 1: business because print is alive. And well, here's the thing
27:33
Speaker 1: I want to say about Kate Winslett right now, though,
27:35
Speaker 1: is that it's like the same girl though throughout the
27:38
Speaker 1: entire movie. I'm like, yeah, I get it, Like I've
27:41
Speaker 1: had a Jasper and there's yeah, there's there's a line
27:44
Speaker 1: where he goes like like you're must survival kit and
27:47
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like that hurt me because I'm like, wow, same,
27:50
Speaker 1: that's been there, There's been there, done that. I've had
27:53
Speaker 1: a jasper who has not been as hot as this
27:56
Speaker 1: actual jasper. Excellent casting though, of like he can't be
27:59
Speaker 1: as hot as Jewed Law, but he's got to be
28:01
Speaker 1: close and he's got to look a little evil. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 1: with like the same piercing blue eyes, but just like
28:06
Speaker 1: a little bit maybe he's like not totally symmetrical. We
28:10
Speaker 1: don't know, there's a little weird thing going on there,
28:12
Speaker 1: but there there there was one point where I because
28:16
Speaker 1: is also a horrible character, but there was one point
28:19
Speaker 1: where he sends her his manuscript because he knows she's
28:22
Speaker 1: so good at her job that that's why he keeps
28:24
Speaker 1: her around, because he needs her professionally. And that was like, well,
28:30
Speaker 1: and then I drowned myself in a river. All right, Well, okay,
28:34
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna try to jump in here where
28:37
Speaker 1: the Okay, So if you just boiled down the plot
28:43
Speaker 1: of the movie, it's about two women who need to
28:47
Speaker 1: escape the problematic men in their lives, so they switch places.
28:53
Speaker 1: But there would be an opportunity, you think, for a
28:56
Speaker 1: story that would be about like they're sort of self
28:58
Speaker 1: discovery and hey, maybe let's pursue something in my career
29:03
Speaker 1: while I'm away, or maybe I'll like try to write
29:05
Speaker 1: a book, or maybe I'll try to make a friend
29:09
Speaker 1: or something like that. But both of their stories just
29:11
Speaker 1: revolve around other men. So they leave one man just
29:14
Speaker 1: to jump to another one. Because camer Diaz is like, oh, actually,
29:18
Speaker 1: Ed Burns not the guy for me, but Jude Law
29:22
Speaker 1: the guy for me. I were I'm gonnakinly shows up
29:25
Speaker 1: in my house, could be fucking anyone, and also doesn't
29:29
Speaker 1: appear drunk that entire like he's he's imagine a man
29:32
Speaker 1: bagger and a little little little slur, but drops it
29:36
Speaker 1: pretty clearly. And then it's like, so where do you work?
29:39
Speaker 1: You're just like this man isn't drunk. A little tiny thing.
29:43
Speaker 1: You said, books and this was reminded me. Okay, on
29:46
Speaker 1: the plane when she's going to the cottage, so many books.
29:51
Speaker 1: She has a stack of like seven books, the Kite Runners. There,
29:54
Speaker 1: there's Harry Potter, what's your plan? What's your plan? You're
29:57
Speaker 1: gonna read all these fucking books. You're not gonna read
29:59
Speaker 1: all these fucking book No way, not on this flight,
30:01
Speaker 1: not during this trip. I do that sometimes though I'm like,
30:04
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be wouldn't it be nice if I did?
30:07
Speaker 1: If I managed? And then you just end up making
30:09
Speaker 1: your home vacation very heavy and you read nothing. So
30:15
Speaker 1: Cameron did is his character is just like, oh but
30:17
Speaker 1: Jude Law, and he suddenly falls in love with me
30:20
Speaker 1: even though we've only known each other for a week
30:22
Speaker 1: and they're like, he's emotional and she needs to open
30:26
Speaker 1: up and learn how to cry because her whole thing
30:28
Speaker 1: is that she hasn't cried since she was fifteen. Fun,
30:30
Speaker 1: fun and not to say and not to like shame.
30:34
Speaker 1: You know, everyone has their life difficulties. Been like I
30:37
Speaker 1: can't cry, but literally, but it's like, okay, your parents
30:40
Speaker 1: got divorced. We're self aucking. Sorry everyone's parents got divorced. Cool, Like, literally, yeah,
30:48
Speaker 1: I can't cry. I haven't cried in twenty years because
30:51
Speaker 1: my parents got I'm sorry. I can't do Cameron Diaz
30:54
Speaker 1: and pressure. I'm not shrill. I can't do it. But
30:57
Speaker 1: she is just like I am in Kyenne twenty or
31:00
Speaker 1: being it. I'm my There was a student case and
31:03
Speaker 1: I was just like, shut up, you, I wish her unhappiness.
31:06
Speaker 1: I love I love after her in um June law
31:09
Speaker 1: Bone and she's like, honestly, my life is a bit
31:12
Speaker 1: of a mess in that department too, you know, don't
31:15
Speaker 1: worry about it like it's all cool. And he's all
31:17
Speaker 1: like WHOA, Okay, like I guess you're not. And she's like, no,
31:19
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fall in love with you blah blah.
31:22
Speaker 1: Dude does one of my favorite things in the entire
31:26
Speaker 1: thing A film that I like to tell people sometimes
31:29
Speaker 1: if I feel comfortable enough for them. One of the
31:31
Speaker 1: first things he appears and he's like, don't fall in
31:34
Speaker 1: love with I love that so much, and then he
31:38
Speaker 1: called back to it later it's like, I know I
31:40
Speaker 1: told you not to fall in love with me, but
31:42
Speaker 1: now somehow I have fallen in love with you, and
31:44
Speaker 1: you're just like this that world okay. Also, he keeps
31:47
Speaker 1: calling her like he's like, he's like really one of
31:49
Speaker 1: the most interesting women girls, saying not like the other girls,
31:53
Speaker 1: just saying like, also is she she's so, She's so
31:58
Speaker 1: not she's so faking more. The one moment I connected
32:01
Speaker 1: with Cameron Diaz's character and I actually felt for her
32:04
Speaker 1: a little bit. I feel I feel like I know
32:06
Speaker 1: what it's going to was when she and Judel are
32:09
Speaker 1: about to have sex for the first time, and she
32:10
Speaker 1: says that she's like, just you know, I don't know
32:13
Speaker 1: if I'm good at and that like I have one
32:17
Speaker 1: done that before, like disclaimed myself before having a second
32:21
Speaker 1: just so you know. I have these weird wiry nipple
32:25
Speaker 1: hairs that I haven't taken care of and I don't
32:28
Speaker 1: know it's been pointed out to me before. And if
32:31
Speaker 1: you've got a problem with it, I mean, we couldn't
32:33
Speaker 1: hang out another day, alright. So and I was like
32:36
Speaker 1: in that moment, I was like, I'm Cameron Diaz and
32:38
Speaker 1: I don't like it, but which I'm I don't know.
32:40
Speaker 1: That was a nice character moment. No, I I like
32:43
Speaker 1: that too. Of course, later he's like, by the way,
32:45
Speaker 1: you know, i'd say he's mistaken. Also, his contacts are
32:50
Speaker 1: knocked out of his eyes during the sex. That's the
32:53
Speaker 1: thing that he does. It's literally, it's it's only it's
32:56
Speaker 1: only so they could put him in cute, cute glasses.
32:59
Speaker 1: You know. He's like, my context fell out. You know,
33:01
Speaker 1: I'm like, well that hot, my context fail or she
33:04
Speaker 1: is actually like really just doing some crazy stuff and
33:08
Speaker 1: maybe she thinks she's bad. Maybe she's just like, oh
33:14
Speaker 1: my god, but he does wait, wait, that doesn't mind
33:17
Speaker 1: me of when give me your eyeball? Sorry you don't know,
33:23
Speaker 1: but do you remember when they're sitting, when they're on
33:24
Speaker 1: the couch and they're about to do it, and he
33:27
Speaker 1: kisses her eyelids and he pulls her hair back. Here's
33:30
Speaker 1: the thing. I feel like those are very nice intimate moves.
33:33
Speaker 1: That's not like we're drunk and we're strangers and we're
33:35
Speaker 1: going to fuck you know who just met like literally
33:38
Speaker 1: ten minutes before. And then he's just like delicately kissing
33:41
Speaker 1: her eyelids. I'm like, oh my god, literally what wait.
33:44
Speaker 1: I want to talk more about this scene because I
33:46
Speaker 1: would argue that there is a surprise kiss. It's not
33:49
Speaker 1: the type of surprise kiss we usually see. It's not
33:51
Speaker 1: just like a lunge. But okay, here's what happens. So
33:54
Speaker 1: he's at Iris's house where Cameron Diaz is staying. They
33:58
Speaker 1: chat for a couple of minutes, like kind of get
34:00
Speaker 1: to know who they are. She's like, I just broke
34:03
Speaker 1: up with some and I'm here and I'm all out
34:05
Speaker 1: of sorts. And then he's like, all right, I'm just
34:07
Speaker 1: gonna crash on the couch. She doesn't get some blankets
34:10
Speaker 1: and says good night, and then he leans in and
34:12
Speaker 1: kisses her out of nowhere. Ye, Which, here's the thing
34:16
Speaker 1: that's weird about that. I mean, there are multiple things,
34:18
Speaker 1: but it's almost like he did it in a way
34:20
Speaker 1: that it's like, oh, No, this is just like routine
34:22
Speaker 1: that I that I it's like I missed people just
34:25
Speaker 1: kiss you on the lips good night. It's yeah, it's
34:27
Speaker 1: like it's like a routine thing. That routine routine. I
34:30
Speaker 1: can't say routine, routine thing like Mr Frana. Then the
34:37
Speaker 1: thing that I thought of it was like even if
34:40
Speaker 1: he was, he forgot that, like he didn't know her
34:42
Speaker 1: or something. It's like, oh, do you kiss your sister
34:45
Speaker 1: Kate Winsley on the mouth before you go sleep, like
34:48
Speaker 1: on her couch, right, And it's just what we do.
34:52
Speaker 1: It's just the space reminds me of kissing women, even
34:55
Speaker 1: though the woman who lives here is my sister. Okay,
34:59
Speaker 1: So then after so even if there is romantic tension
35:01
Speaker 1: between them, which we can argue that there is, like
35:03
Speaker 1: he can't just lean in and kiss her. There's there's
35:05
Speaker 1: like no no flirtation really up to that point. Well,
35:08
Speaker 1: but also Cameron Diaz is like, I don't do for
35:11
Speaker 1: a play. Carmon Diaz has a lot of things that
35:16
Speaker 1: men want to hear in this movie. She says, I
35:19
Speaker 1: don't fall in love. I don't do for a play.
35:21
Speaker 1: I can't cry like all this stuff. I'm just like, Wow,
35:24
Speaker 1: this really seems like a great person that has never existed.
35:28
Speaker 1: He's like a play and she's like overrated, and he's like,
35:31
Speaker 1: you're the most interesting girls her interesting women in the world.
35:36
Speaker 1: But he doesn't call her woman. He calls her girl
35:38
Speaker 1: a hundred times woman. He also basically there's that there's
35:43
Speaker 1: that great feminist icon Judela moment where he's like, I'm
35:46
Speaker 1: not in the habit of having sex with women who
35:48
Speaker 1: are unconscious, and it's like slow cop, and then Cameron
35:54
Speaker 1: Diaz is like, I'm so embarrassed. I'm like, no, that's
35:56
Speaker 1: not there. I mean, while she's like, wait, why didn't
35:59
Speaker 1: we have sex? And he's like you're She's like really,
36:01
Speaker 1: oh man, she is okay, And I know that, you know,
36:05
Speaker 1: women be crazy, I think, but her character is fully
36:08
Speaker 1: crazy based on the fact that she's very badly written,
36:12
Speaker 1: like nothing she does make sense. And then it's Cameron Diaz.
36:15
Speaker 1: It just sucks back to this surprise kiss scene. So
36:18
Speaker 1: after he kisses her, reacts in such a way where
36:20
Speaker 1: I was like, oh whoa, Like I didn't mean to
36:22
Speaker 1: do that, and then she says, can you try that again?
36:25
Speaker 1: And he's like huh, okay, and then he kisses her again.
36:28
Speaker 1: So the movie frames this weird moment that you don't
36:31
Speaker 1: think would happened in real life, or if it does,
36:33
Speaker 1: like it's alarming, and again, like a surprise kiss, the
36:37
Speaker 1: movie frames it is like, oh, this is romantic and
36:40
Speaker 1: she's so into this, and like forgetting the fact that
36:44
Speaker 1: they just met and they hadn't been talking about like
36:48
Speaker 1: maybe they say like, oh, you're cute, you're handsome. I'm
36:50
Speaker 1: glad I came in. But like the way, like, yeah,
36:53
Speaker 1: the way that they frame it, it's almost like the
36:55
Speaker 1: scene in the movie where like the two best friends
36:58
Speaker 1: try for the first time, you know, like it almost
37:00
Speaker 1: seems like a chemistry read where it's like we've been
37:03
Speaker 1: friends for a long time, can we just try this?
37:05
Speaker 1: Like that's the sort of move that it is makes
37:08
Speaker 1: sense because they met three minutes ago. She's just like, wait, interesting, interesting,
37:15
Speaker 1: that's how But then her whole thing is that it's
37:17
Speaker 1: interesting because she's never kissed a stranger before. And he's like, really,
37:20
Speaker 1: I do it all the time. Whatever. He's like, meanwhile,
37:23
Speaker 1: I have two young girls at home, but I'm out
37:25
Speaker 1: there fucking every night. He is very straightforward about what
37:30
Speaker 1: a piece of shitty is, which is also frustrating to
37:33
Speaker 1: at Cameron Diaz level, where he at multiple points in
37:36
Speaker 1: the movie lists things that are wrong with him, like
37:39
Speaker 1: he is being pretty Mine is the fact that it's
37:40
Speaker 1: a twist that he's a father and somehow that's a
37:42
Speaker 1: good thing. And also that he cries. You guys, guess
37:45
Speaker 1: what she can't cry, and I guess what he loves
37:47
Speaker 1: to cry, which him weeps, Him weep so much, it's God,
37:54
Speaker 1: Cameron dis like, no one can be like my parents
37:56
Speaker 1: divorced and now I'm like this, like it just doesn't happen.
38:00
Speaker 1: So Kate Winslett, I think is very deeply depressed and
38:02
Speaker 1: really should like say thanks for hanging Jack Black, but
38:05
Speaker 1: I need a new therapist and new medication because she
38:08
Speaker 1: almost kills herself at the beginning and is and really
38:11
Speaker 1: seems prone to like some pretty brutal mood swings. Kate
38:14
Speaker 1: Winslet almost commits suicide and every movie she's in in
38:17
Speaker 1: the beginning because it happens contractual obligation. The movie she's
38:20
Speaker 1: ever been in, she almost killers I Will Actually she
38:24
Speaker 1: almost killed herself in Beautiful Creatures. This thing does. Can
38:29
Speaker 1: we talk about Jack Black? Perhaps I'm in his icon
38:32
Speaker 1: though for this one moment, this one scene where he
38:35
Speaker 1: introduces his girlfriend with her name Maggie to uh, I
38:40
Speaker 1: wrote this. He goes, here's my Maggie. Well, no, not
38:43
Speaker 1: my Maggie. Who that was? I wrote that? Like feminist,
38:52
Speaker 1: ye contract plant? Maybe I think so? Maybe? Honestly yes. So.
38:57
Speaker 1: Still on Kate Winslet story, her whole thing, similar to
39:02
Speaker 1: Cameron Diaz, is that she, oh her Jasper doesn't love her,
39:07
Speaker 1: so she has to get away and escape and get
39:09
Speaker 1: over him. And she does say several times in the movie,
39:11
Speaker 1: like it's clear that I need to fall out of
39:14
Speaker 1: love with you. Please let me do this. And then
39:16
Speaker 1: he's just like, but how can I reach you every day?
39:18
Speaker 1: And then he shows sucking piece of ship And then
39:21
Speaker 1: by the end of the movie, Yes, she does confront
39:23
Speaker 1: him and say like nor grand yeah, big speech, and
39:29
Speaker 1: she's just like, you've been a shitty guy and you've
39:32
Speaker 1: never treated me well and I'm over it and you
39:35
Speaker 1: need to get out of my life so that I
39:37
Speaker 1: can move on with mine or whatever, and then she
39:39
Speaker 1: kicks him out. And it's supposed to be this like
39:41
Speaker 1: big empowering moment, but at the same time the other
39:45
Speaker 1: parts of her story in this movie are her relationship
39:48
Speaker 1: to Jack Black, her relationship to this old guy Arthur.
39:51
Speaker 1: And it's like she's not doing anything for herself really
39:53
Speaker 1: except for maybe just like maybe she feels better by
39:57
Speaker 1: helping this Arthur guy. But I think I think what
40:01
Speaker 1: they're trying to do. I don't know, like the Arthur
40:03
Speaker 1: thing is so strange, but I think like what they're
40:05
Speaker 1: trying to do is like she's helping him, and at
40:08
Speaker 1: the same time, I guess he's like helping because he
40:11
Speaker 1: has such a like an admiration for her, and he's
40:13
Speaker 1: like he's like, yeah, you got spunk, but you're a
40:15
Speaker 1: leading lady. Yeah. And then she's like, oh wait, maybe
40:19
Speaker 1: I am the leading lady in my own story. But like,
40:21
Speaker 1: also could she just realize that herself? Like did she
40:24
Speaker 1: have to write? But like why did he have to
40:26
Speaker 1: be the one to tell her that after they've just
40:28
Speaker 1: met for like a day? Yeah? I just I so
40:31
Speaker 1: much wanted to cease like a subplot for both of them,
40:34
Speaker 1: them to just be pursuing something, you know, in their
40:36
Speaker 1: career or just some other thing they can enrich their
40:39
Speaker 1: lives with and not just men, because all it is
40:42
Speaker 1: I wish that I wish she wrote her She started
40:45
Speaker 1: writing her own books and she fucking sent the pages
40:47
Speaker 1: to Jasper and she's like bitch and like fuck you,
40:51
Speaker 1: you miserable piece of ship. Leave me alone. Well, and
40:54
Speaker 1: from what I can tell, like both of these women
40:55
Speaker 1: fly overseas two lip sync in a bed that is
41:00
Speaker 1: the extent. Like they don't seem to have any plan,
41:04
Speaker 1: and that could have been Another interesting part of the
41:05
Speaker 1: movie is how do they meet if they've got to
41:08
Speaker 1: meet a man, maybe to go out and meet them,
41:10
Speaker 1: but literally both had their doors and kind of forcibly
41:15
Speaker 1: enter when they're like all I was gonna do is
41:17
Speaker 1: lipsing to the killers in England for three weeks. Also
41:21
Speaker 1: a very long time to be away. It doesn't make sense, right, Yeah,
41:24
Speaker 1: they don't go out and explore, even though they're both
41:26
Speaker 1: in like new cities and like wanted to get away,
41:29
Speaker 1: Like yeah, they just don't do anything except for things
41:32
Speaker 1: that relate to the old or new men in their life.
41:35
Speaker 1: And it's but low key, I'm in l a for
41:37
Speaker 1: the first time and that's exactly what I'm Well, you're
41:40
Speaker 1: not here on vacation, like they deliberately went and you
41:42
Speaker 1: could argue short, like it is the Christmas holidays, maybe
41:45
Speaker 1: things aren't open, and yeah they're on vacation. But again
41:47
Speaker 1: that's my argument that clearly this movie was not meant
41:50
Speaker 1: to take place at Christmas, and the studio was. I mean,
41:53
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but I do like, yeah, that's a thing
41:56
Speaker 1: checks out that I had not thought about that. There's
41:59
Speaker 1: also just like weird little moments that for some reason
42:01
Speaker 1: stand out to me that I'm like, was this supposed
42:03
Speaker 1: to go somewhere? I don't know why, but when she opened,
42:05
Speaker 1: when Cameron Diaz opens the closet and there's like a
42:09
Speaker 1: little black dress, she goes nice dress and then and
42:11
Speaker 1: like that's it. I was like, was there supposed to be?
42:13
Speaker 1: Was this supposed to be a thing? There's like a
42:16
Speaker 1: lot of weird just like loose things like that, you
42:19
Speaker 1: know that I that I just I want to know
42:21
Speaker 1: what Well, No, I don't supposed as if this script
42:24
Speaker 1: is to maybe so there God who is editing this movie?
42:30
Speaker 1: Like the dog scene, the long another scene that should
42:34
Speaker 1: have been cut, A long scene in which Cameron Diaz
42:37
Speaker 1: explains lipstick to one of Jude Law's daughters. Supposed that
42:42
Speaker 1: there it's like where she turns and she's like and
42:45
Speaker 1: those two girls first of all very no, they're cute.
42:49
Speaker 1: I like them. No than you going Amanda, Amanda, dude
42:56
Speaker 1: to leep in my bedroom. You know what, have a mom,
43:02
Speaker 1: straight dad? And then now you look like one of
43:07
Speaker 1: my bombies, you know what. I think. It's like those
43:09
Speaker 1: scenes are supposed to be like I think like they
43:12
Speaker 1: try to make Cameron Dias seem like so hard, which
43:14
Speaker 1: like whatever, shut up um, and then as well, but
43:18
Speaker 1: like they're like, oh no, look look at her, and
43:20
Speaker 1: I don't think she has any chemistry with those children.
43:22
Speaker 1: I don't think she it's like, oh wow, look she's
43:24
Speaker 1: like she can be soft and emotional whatever, Like I
43:27
Speaker 1: think that's the point of it. But I'm like, you
43:29
Speaker 1: just gave her look. I don't know. There's like no,
43:31
Speaker 1: I'm not like, wow, look at maternal she is. I
43:33
Speaker 1: don't know. But then Jude Lng comes in and he's like,
43:36
Speaker 1: no one has ever been a bigger hit with my
43:37
Speaker 1: kids than you, not even their own mother. They just
43:42
Speaker 1: totally lost all remaining memories of their mother because you salmon.
43:47
Speaker 1: That's why I killed her. The girls didn't like she
43:53
Speaker 1: had to go amazing well, okay, I did have. I
43:59
Speaker 1: am shocked at it. I didn't think because Okay, when
44:02
Speaker 1: Jude Blas shows up, I'm like, there's a very different
44:04
Speaker 1: version of this movie where La kill and the first
44:07
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of the movie because he shows up, Yeah,
44:13
Speaker 1: this is my sister's house. I'll just make myself at home.
44:17
Speaker 1: I do this all the time, you know. And it's like, oh,
44:20
Speaker 1: he's a stone called killer. He's calling other women. He's
44:23
Speaker 1: just like setting up his next prey. While Cameron Diaz
44:26
Speaker 1: is monologue, Oh, looks like he's on the phone with
44:29
Speaker 1: another woman. Oops, I've been spotted. Like She's like, I
44:34
Speaker 1: just I can't. I can't show that I cared because
44:36
Speaker 1: I just told him that I don't care. But now
44:38
Speaker 1: here I am, I'm looking at him talking to an
44:40
Speaker 1: other woman. He has daughters his ultimate secret. Well, the
44:48
Speaker 1: other thing about this movie is that the two women
44:50
Speaker 1: basically spend the whole movie measuring their self worth based
44:54
Speaker 1: on the men that they know or like, whether or
44:57
Speaker 1: not they're lovable. Because early on you see Iris talking
45:01
Speaker 1: to her colleague and the cool one who smokes into right,
45:06
Speaker 1: and she's like, we used to be together, but he
45:09
Speaker 1: cheated on me, but now we're still friends, and and
45:14
Speaker 1: she's like, I never realized how pathetic you are, and
45:17
Speaker 1: I was just like, really, oh god, I'm so aware
45:19
Speaker 1: of it. I cut to her sobbing, and then Amanda
45:25
Speaker 1: is talking to her colleagues and she's just like, remember
45:28
Speaker 1: when they used to say that single women over the
45:29
Speaker 1: age of thirty five were more likely to be killed
45:31
Speaker 1: by a terrorist than to get married. That's horrible. There's that.
45:35
Speaker 1: There's a scene where Kim Diaz and are corresponding and
45:38
Speaker 1: like getting to know each other over this whatever the
45:41
Speaker 1: funk website this would be, and I was just like,
45:44
Speaker 1: I'm iris, by the way, very normal, neat freak, healthy,
45:47
Speaker 1: non smoker, single girl, my horrible liner. She needs a
45:55
Speaker 1: new therapist, literally bad. They're literally all twelve years old,
45:59
Speaker 1: like they tell they they throw tantrums like it's wild.
46:03
Speaker 1: The physicality of it is so over the top totally.
46:07
Speaker 1: And then a man responds by being like, I'm Amanda Lonard,
46:10
Speaker 1: loser and complicated wreck, and it's just like they're just
46:16
Speaker 1: her words. They actually lifted this conversation from us, um no,
46:21
Speaker 1: but it's just these two women measuring their self worth
46:24
Speaker 1: based on how single they are or how much a
46:26
Speaker 1: man loves them and it's just like which is also
46:30
Speaker 1: interesting because the story places them both as people who
46:33
Speaker 1: are very good at their jobs. She they say multiple times,
46:38
Speaker 1: and that's why they pay me the big bucks for
46:40
Speaker 1: her fucking trailer with James Franco can say something about that. Yeah, God, okay.
46:48
Speaker 1: James Franco and Lindsay Lohan exists as themselves in this
46:51
Speaker 1: universe of the movie The Holiday, But Lindsay Lohan was
46:55
Speaker 1: in Mean Girls with Rachel McAdams, who's in Sherlock Holmes
46:58
Speaker 1: with Jude Law it doesn't work out. Also, James Franco
47:03
Speaker 1: was in Pineapple Express with Seth Rogan, who's in super
47:06
Speaker 1: Bad with Sorry, but he was in super Bad with
47:10
Speaker 1: Jonah Hill, who was in Wolf of Wall Street with
47:12
Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio, who was in Titanic with He got there.
47:19
Speaker 1: What a fucking weird stylistic choice for them to go
47:21
Speaker 1: into the weird like trailer fantasies of Cameron Diaz's life
47:25
Speaker 1: like that never good, so strange, so strange there I
47:30
Speaker 1: do like whenever Cameron Diaz is doing her job, she's
47:34
Speaker 1: just like saying stuff and they're like, she's brilliant, because
47:37
Speaker 1: then she's like, it needs to be shorter, needs to
47:41
Speaker 1: be red, like happy red, not a Scorsese, right, And
47:46
Speaker 1: then John Krasinski is like, oh my god, She's like there,
47:51
Speaker 1: it's just I hate it sucks and she sucks. I
47:55
Speaker 1: love it though, But so you know, we're all dying,
47:59
Speaker 1: so we know about their careers. At least we know
48:02
Speaker 1: what they do, because in movies we've discussed previously, like
48:05
Speaker 1: in When Harry Met Sally, we barely know what any
48:07
Speaker 1: of the women in that movie do for a living.
48:09
Speaker 1: At least in this movie we know what their jobs
48:11
Speaker 1: are and we even see them sort of doing their jobs.
48:13
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to make sense, but they have jobs and
48:16
Speaker 1: they're good at it, but they're no. It just was
48:18
Speaker 1: super annoying to me that there are no subplots around
48:21
Speaker 1: their careers when they're easily could have been, and instead
48:25
Speaker 1: all of the other storylines are dedicated to their relationships
48:28
Speaker 1: with men, when again, it could have been a story
48:30
Speaker 1: about like them going on a journey of self discovery
48:34
Speaker 1: or self improvement doors and like, even even if you
48:38
Speaker 1: do need a weird Arthur subplot, maybe make it not
48:40
Speaker 1: an old white guy. You could be a woman she meets,
48:46
Speaker 1: and you know, because the payoff of the Arthur subplot
48:49
Speaker 1: is also you're just like, that's what we were waiting for.
48:53
Speaker 1: Because Jasper shows up, which is again like you just
48:57
Speaker 1: got engaged, but you just disappeared on Christmas. Sure, that's
49:01
Speaker 1: a that supports your theory even more of like maybe
49:04
Speaker 1: a week where just he could say he was on
49:05
Speaker 1: a business trip. But anyways, he shows up and it's
49:08
Speaker 1: like Kate red bikini, I don't know, I'm just sort
49:14
Speaker 1: of a plot device and he shows up. He's just
49:16
Speaker 1: being a plot device, flopping around and Kate wins like
49:19
Speaker 1: she has this very sudden realization because she had been
49:24
Speaker 1: told about a Barber Standwick movie by Arthur the Old Man,
49:27
Speaker 1: and that's why she But there's a great moment where
49:30
Speaker 1: literally she's asked, like what's gotten into you? And she's like,
49:34
Speaker 1: I don't know, and it's like she might as well
49:37
Speaker 1: just be like, there's fifteen minutes left in the movie.
49:41
Speaker 1: Does she screams gumption and pumps her fists. It's just
49:46
Speaker 1: like for a two hour minute movie, the arcs are
49:51
Speaker 1: like almost everything happens in the last fifteen minutes because
49:55
Speaker 1: it's wild because like her and Jack Black share what
49:58
Speaker 1: a single kiss? And I don't like Arthur's stupid w
50:02
Speaker 1: g a offense. Yes, and now he is like, yeah,
50:05
Speaker 1: I'm going to fucking New Year's with you? What? And
50:08
Speaker 1: I don't know their country and then pumps his fists.
50:11
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Jack Black is extremely charming, So
50:14
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. I liked. I liked
50:16
Speaker 1: when he pumped his fists. I will say, Kate Winslet,
50:19
Speaker 1: I was laying it on a bit, thank you. Sure, well,
50:21
Speaker 1: this is an actor's film, so this is an actress film.
50:25
Speaker 1: I mean just just just the blockbuster scene alone is
50:28
Speaker 1: my one of my favorite things that has ever happened,
50:31
Speaker 1: because it's just they're just like, let's just let Jack
50:33
Speaker 1: do his thing, you know, and I love it. So
50:39
Speaker 1: just scene where Jack Black and Kate Winslet are scooterly
50:43
Speaker 1: doodling is It's very tense and difficult to watch because
50:50
Speaker 1: Kate wasn't herself. She does not want to be in there.
50:55
Speaker 1: Does she like Jack Black as a person. I'm gonna
50:57
Speaker 1: guess hard now, no, because then see between them is
51:01
Speaker 1: so like. I watched it two times because the first
51:03
Speaker 1: time I was just like, oh, Kate Winslet's her character
51:06
Speaker 1: is nervous. But then I was like, no, Kate Winslet,
51:08
Speaker 1: She's like, suddenly is Nerve's gonna make me fucking screwdlad do?
51:12
Speaker 1: Like right, and if that's the moment we're supposed to
51:15
Speaker 1: be like, oh there's st here that Kate wins goes like,
51:23
Speaker 1: was like screw, no very one take there? There was
51:31
Speaker 1: no there was no more than one take at the shots.
51:34
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just have to mention best line reading
51:36
Speaker 1: in the entire thing, besides the weather is are you embarrassed?
51:41
Speaker 1: But this game to play literally so funny. Guys. The
51:48
Speaker 1: thing is, I think I just want to be the
51:50
Speaker 1: female jack Block. I think that's why it is. Maybe
51:54
Speaker 1: that is the most feeling role in this movie. It's
51:57
Speaker 1: like if you've gotta be anyway, But oh god, she's
52:00
Speaker 1: fun this Please go back and want to the scene
52:03
Speaker 1: checked like a Kate wan slid are scatting. It's crazy.
52:11
Speaker 1: It's she literally is like how you had singing church
52:18
Speaker 1: choir if you did not know the word. But he's
52:21
Speaker 1: really supportive. He's like, oh, oh is it a scrutally
52:24
Speaker 1: do instead of a dutily? And she's like she's just
52:28
Speaker 1: improvence you know, has not taken u CB three oh one.
52:32
Speaker 1: That must be for sure. Okay, right, real quick, I
52:36
Speaker 1: made a list of all of the tropes we see
52:39
Speaker 1: in this movie. So one. A woman cripplingly depressed over
52:44
Speaker 1: a man who doesn't love her, a frigid, career driven
52:47
Speaker 1: woman who can't be emotionally vulnerable. A man who cheated
52:50
Speaker 1: on his girlfriend with his receptionist, a younger woman who
52:53
Speaker 1: is his subordinate, a woman being bad at driving, a
52:57
Speaker 1: person changing their mind at the airport about leaving a
53:01
Speaker 1: romantic interest behind big old prat fall, big old snow. Yeah.
53:06
Speaker 1: Oh wait, right before she starts driving badly, she pratt falls,
53:11
Speaker 1: and then at the end when she's being driven away
53:13
Speaker 1: back to the airport because she has changed her flight twice.
53:16
Speaker 1: In this movie, there's nothing more customer like in two
53:21
Speaker 1: thou seventeen. It's so hard to watch a movie about
53:24
Speaker 1: so many rich white people who are so rich that
53:27
Speaker 1: they can just be like, actually, I'm just gonna buy
53:29
Speaker 1: a million dollar ticket to another country tomorrow. And you
53:33
Speaker 1: know what I always think of, like, not only is
53:34
Speaker 1: that crazy the rich thing, but also she's very rude.
53:37
Speaker 1: She has not reached out to Kate Winflett to be like, hey,
53:39
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm just gonna come back, and then be like,
53:43
Speaker 1: oh you can please think my house. Now you're gonna
53:46
Speaker 1: want to leave. But then so at the end whenever
53:49
Speaker 1: camerd Is is like gonna go back and actually leave
53:52
Speaker 1: this time, and she's in the car and she's like,
53:55
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I've changed my mind. I forgot started
53:57
Speaker 1: to because she cried and it fixed her. Nude law
54:00
Speaker 1: fixes her. Let's give him some credit. She's fucking cured
54:11
Speaker 1: whatever her problem. Right, So she makes the car turn
54:16
Speaker 1: around and she's like, can't you go any faster? And
54:17
Speaker 1: he's like no, And then she's like, okay, I'll get
54:20
Speaker 1: out and run in the snow. So she goes back
54:24
Speaker 1: to her house. When she runs, and then she pauses
54:27
Speaker 1: and then the music swells and she's like she goes
54:31
Speaker 1: back to Kate Wins's house. Du Law is still there
54:34
Speaker 1: for some reason, even love. But she shows up and
54:37
Speaker 1: he's like why Christal, okay, that's good. Why Why isn't
54:42
Speaker 1: he with his kids on Christmas? What day is it?
54:44
Speaker 1: Even they're upstairs, they're playing with their scribblings. They actually
54:48
Speaker 1: rilled their mom and he's scared of and then can
54:53
Speaker 1: we put your face on? Off face? Taddy, give me
54:57
Speaker 1: a stiff your naked him and dias it your daddy, daddy, daddy. Um, Okay,
55:05
Speaker 1: let's talk about whether or not in the movie passes
55:07
Speaker 1: the Bechdel test. Somehow it does, somehow it does. I
55:12
Speaker 1: like to argue it passes when Kate Win's letting Cameron
55:15
Speaker 1: Diaz mumbled to each other incoherently at the end of
55:17
Speaker 1: the movie over loud Christmas. They're like a little little bit,
55:20
Speaker 1: They're like, nice to meet you. Because I'm convinced that's
55:23
Speaker 1: when everyone in the movie met for the first time.
55:26
Speaker 1: Kate Judla had never met. Yeah, right, because he's not
55:30
Speaker 1: actually his sister. He's just a murdering person who has
55:33
Speaker 1: murder daughters would murder for him. Yeah. What if Kate
55:37
Speaker 1: Winslet showed up and was like, who's this? Was like, wait,
55:42
Speaker 1: this is your brother. She's like, I don't. I don't
55:44
Speaker 1: have a brother, which is why she never mentioned her
55:45
Speaker 1: nieces because she doesn't have. But there is that scene
55:48
Speaker 1: which I think arguably could pass the Bechdel tests. All
55:50
Speaker 1: the things they only talk about Jude Law, but they
55:53
Speaker 1: camer Diaz, and Kate Winslet talk on the phone and
55:56
Speaker 1: she's like on three way cong with all of them,
55:58
Speaker 1: and then she has that real fun moment where she's like,
56:00
Speaker 1: did you sleep with and Camer was like, it's actually
56:05
Speaker 1: it's Cam and said, oh day. She wouldn't say my badge,
56:11
Speaker 1: oh you know, British, my my, oh Mary Poppins. I'm sorry.
56:21
Speaker 1: We gotta go. A couple more times where women interact
56:25
Speaker 1: Kate Winslett and her colleague when they're like She's like,
56:28
Speaker 1: I love this man. He doesn't love him back, and
56:29
Speaker 1: she's like, you're so freaking pathetic, and she's like, I know,
56:32
Speaker 1: I'm so aware. It's crazy that that sone does pass them. No,
56:35
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Though they talk about they talked for her.
56:38
Speaker 1: I got a one minute oh really maybe then, but
56:41
Speaker 1: they talked for her. She does not have a name.
56:43
Speaker 1: I don't think on I AMDB she's named, but I
56:45
Speaker 1: don't think we find out her name in the actual movie.
56:49
Speaker 1: But they talked for a minute in forty five seconds,
56:51
Speaker 1: I timed it, and they spent most the entire time
56:54
Speaker 1: talking about Jasper Uh. And then another woman comes in
56:57
Speaker 1: and interrupts and she's like, I risk, did you fly
56:59
Speaker 1: just store? And she's like, I don't know. Down to
57:01
Speaker 1: the y you're still red. But she does not have
57:04
Speaker 1: a name either, so that does not pass the backte test.
57:07
Speaker 1: There's a scene where Amanda's I think assistant, Yeah, yeah,
57:12
Speaker 1: it comes in. We don't know her role really, but
57:14
Speaker 1: she's like they're in the editing room and she's like,
57:16
Speaker 1: oh is this a bad time? Cameren Dis is like
57:19
Speaker 1: I'm flipping out, and then they talk a little bit,
57:25
Speaker 1: but then she's like, then needs you. So they mentioned
57:27
Speaker 1: a man although I don't even know if we know
57:29
Speaker 1: her character's name, I think, well she again named on IMDb.
57:34
Speaker 1: Wasn't pain close enough attention to know, right? And then
57:38
Speaker 1: they're talking online Kate When's and Cameron Diaz, But I
57:43
Speaker 1: don't know if that counts because it's an internet correspondent.
57:46
Speaker 1: How do you I thought that that maybe counted at
57:50
Speaker 1: because they are talking directly to each other. It's a
57:52
Speaker 1: weird gray area thing. This movie does pass the Bactel tests, though,
57:55
Speaker 1: like it does whenever she camer Dias talks to jud
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Speaker 1: Laws dot Rs and they're like contemplating murdering her and
58:02
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, your perfume. It smells so nice, and
58:06
Speaker 1: thank you, it's very and we know both of their names.
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Speaker 1: Yeah it's Sophie and whatever the hell Sophie? And then
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Speaker 1: and then oh, I like when was she at? When
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Speaker 1: the when the when the little kid asked like, are
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Speaker 1: you going to stay over? You could sleep? In the test,
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Speaker 1: we have a headed grown up here, I'm strong over,
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Speaker 1: I'm sucking your dad really re contextualizes we have but
58:33
Speaker 1: we never have adults zone your finger Naimes. So women
58:40
Speaker 1: do interact in this movie quite a bit, and some
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Speaker 1: of those interactions to pass the Bactel tests, which is upsetting. Alright,
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Speaker 1: let's write the movie on our zero to five nipple scale.
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Speaker 1: Based on the portrayal of women the movie, I'm going
58:52
Speaker 1: to give it like, uh, like a one. It's not
58:55
Speaker 1: doing well for me. Um. I like at least that
58:59
Speaker 1: you see the having jobs and sort of doing their jobs,
59:03
Speaker 1: so it does a little better than a lot of
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Speaker 1: rom comms. But the fact that their entire stories are
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Speaker 1: based solely around other men in their lives, and every
59:12
Speaker 1: pursuit that they have and storyline that they have is
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Speaker 1: all based on men, So there were just so many
59:18
Speaker 1: opportunities for them to like, you know, they're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm at this new place. I can sort of discover
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Speaker 1: myself and try something new and like learn something about myself.
59:26
Speaker 1: But they like pretty much don't or if they do,
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Speaker 1: it's because a man inspire them to do that. So
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Speaker 1: it's just like I might even give it a half nipple. Um, yeah,
59:36
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a half nipple, and it belongs
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Speaker 1: to the dog who winks at Caridia's the Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: born Performer, the Ghost. Yeah, so half nipple because this
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Speaker 1: movie sucks and I hate it. I'm I mean, you're right,
59:57
Speaker 1: but I'm so as I'm gonna give um, I'm gonna
1:00:01
Speaker 1: give it two nipples because, um, Kate Winslet, it can
1:00:04
Speaker 1: be charming when she's she's charming a bit. I also
1:00:08
Speaker 1: just like that these girls like to rock, and like,
1:00:12
Speaker 1: as a girl who likes to rock, yeah, out like
1:00:15
Speaker 1: they're not listening to like, you know, Selene Dianne or anything.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: They're listening to rock and roll. And I'm like Jet
1:00:21
Speaker 1: and the Killers. Um, and both of those are because
1:00:26
Speaker 1: of Kate Winslet and not Cameron Diaz. And yeah, I
1:00:28
Speaker 1: mean they are both successful. Mean, camer Diaz does like
1:00:31
Speaker 1: got that fucking money, and she's like in the industry,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, cool. Um. I don't know that
1:00:38
Speaker 1: her trailer is amazing, but people seem to think so. Um,
1:00:41
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give it to and I'm gonna give
1:00:43
Speaker 1: it to um. The Santa Ana Winds, which for some
1:00:46
Speaker 1: reason are an element of this movie. For no time,
1:00:49
Speaker 1: because the Santa Ana Wins are actively killing the entire
1:00:52
Speaker 1: stand true blowing fires from places supplies, I was like,
1:00:57
Speaker 1: not a good week for this Santa Anna Wins. They're
1:00:59
Speaker 1: not the magical this week. I take it back. She
1:01:07
Speaker 1: does what she wants. Yeah, that's what really changes things
1:01:12
Speaker 1: for her as the winds. Yeah, it's a weird magical
1:01:14
Speaker 1: not I don't even know element in there so much,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. I'll give it a full nippy
1:01:21
Speaker 1: and then give it a full nippy. Uh. Kate Winslet,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: I'm very worried about her mental health in this movie.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: And I really wouldn't have loved Kate Winslett to see
1:01:30
Speaker 1: herself check herself into a facility at the beginning of
1:01:32
Speaker 1: this movie, genuinely because she makes a suicide attempt. Very scary.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: That whole thing is troubling. Cameron Diaz honestly not to
1:01:39
Speaker 1: be not an ally but lost cause flowed around on
1:01:43
Speaker 1: an Iceberg. She's hopeless. We don't know what's going on there.
1:01:47
Speaker 1: Uh you know, Jude Law doesn't matter. Jack Black adorable
1:01:52
Speaker 1: should not be cheating on his girlfriend kind of suffered
1:01:54
Speaker 1: from nice guy thin drum and literally cut from him
1:01:58
Speaker 1: cheating on his girlfriend to why am I such a
1:02:00
Speaker 1: nice guy? Like that killed me? Um, I'm gonna give
1:02:04
Speaker 1: my one nipple to do. Law's daughter who wants to
1:02:07
Speaker 1: straight up eat camera. She's like, what's on your face?
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Because I have some on my list. I want to
1:02:13
Speaker 1: put your frash on my frash. So that's I want
1:02:18
Speaker 1: to make a movie about them. Amazing. Um okay, Rebecca,
1:02:23
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having
1:02:25
Speaker 1: me so much fun. Where can people find you online? Um?
1:02:28
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter at Almond Midle Hotel. We love it.
1:02:31
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1:02:38
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1:02:40
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1:02:43
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1:03:17
Speaker 1: and now we're better. We fixed. This movie fixed us.
1:03:20
Speaker 1: I honestly feel completely cured. I don't need I don't
1:03:23
Speaker 1: need any therapist now because Jack like sang at me
1:03:27
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours. This movie rules. Sorry, sorry,
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