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NEVER whistle in the woods at night: Superstitions and supernatural risks explained · Paranormal Lens - A Crossroads Of Curiosities, LLC Production

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  So in the previous episode, we were all together
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  in person. That was fun. Now we're back on Zoom.
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  And can we tell the people listening what we
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  did after we recorded while still together in
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  person? We were, or actually you guys were competing
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  who could do the best chicken noises. God. Because
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  you guys love making noises. I was not blessed
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  with. The ability to make noises. I can't even
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  whistle, but I bet you guys have a mean whistle.
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  Oh, I can whistle. Yeah, I do, in fact, love
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  whistling. You can't do chicken noises, though.
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  I can make chicken noises. I'm not going to ask
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  you to make any chicken noises, but I do have
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  to ask. You can't whistle right now. You can't
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  whistle right now? No, not working. Not working?
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  You can't whistle while working. But I was gonna
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  ask, you can whistle, but would you whistle?
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  Not for me, but in the woods. At night. Yeah,
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  I've done it before. No. So, to get this straight,
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  Angela would whistle in the woods at night, just
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  not while working. But Brianna would not, under
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  any circumstances, ever whistle in the woods
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  at night no let's talk about that welcome to
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  our podcast where we take deep dives looking
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  at various topics through a paranormal lens i
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  won't say that i haven't but it's purely by accident
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  uh because i whistle constantly and i just forget
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  so i don't purposely whistle in the woods at
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  night but it happens But you know about the folklore
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  and the superstition? Because it's across every
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  culture, it seems. Like Appalachian culture,
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  Native American, all these cultures going back
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  centuries tell you not to whistle. And it's not
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  even in the woods. Even, like, I was reading
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  some sailors, some superstitions for sailors
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  thought whistling mocked the wind and it would
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  bring upon storms. Like, it was a calm... Day
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  and you whistle that like that kind of cuts through
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  the wind signals did not know about this so from
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  the land to the sea there's all these superstitions
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  about whistling and Whoa When did you hear about
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  this? I feel like I've only heard about all the
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  superstitions about whistling when you Brie have
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  Accidentally whistled in the woods at night and
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  then someone says oh you shouldn't have done
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  that And I'm like, why? Yeah, I'm not sure where
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  I first heard about the no whistling at night.
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  It could be because I live more in northern Michigan
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  and I do live in the woods that I'm trying to
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  remember where I actually first heard the don't
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  whistle at night thing. And I can't. I can't.
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  Remember. You just grew up with it. What about
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  you, Angelela? Angelela? Angelela. Trying something
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  new. It didn't really stick. Angelela Jolie?
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  Yes. So Brandon's, like, grew up with it. Have
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  you heard this superstition before? Definitely
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  not. I mean, I didn't really hear about it until
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  I met you guys. Hmm. Well, to me, I'm always,
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  like... who the fuck cares if you whistle you
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  know i don't even know if it's something that
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  i grew up with like i feel like it's something
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  that i learned later it's just it just happened
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  along the way i mean we've been doing it so long
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  like paranormal stuff so long it's like different
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  uh notions and different um peoples and cultures
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  beliefs kind of intertwine with our investigations
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  as a whole that's why i like doing this podcast
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  because now we can actually date things that
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  like when we have new ideas or theories or learn
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  something we have like a date and can track them
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  um but i'm kind of conflicted on the whole whistling
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  thing personally because the whole reason uh
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  i mean people say it's bad luck uh a majority
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  of the people that warn against whistling especially
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  in the woods is because it is essentially an
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  invitation like when you whistle you know to
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  your dog or you know to another person it's kind
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  of like an invitation like come here type of
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  thing yeah you're getting their attention and
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  it's kind of one of those things it's like it's
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  a universal language so kind of like what we're
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  talking about in the ritual episode where it's
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  like if you go up to an old ancient being that
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  may not speak your english and you say what a
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  demon like it might not respond but if you whistle
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  everyone understands what you mean you know so
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  you're fighting things you may not know to come
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  over and interact um and i assume that's your
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  hesitation as well too yes yeah that that is
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  what i've known is like being the superstition
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  behind whistling at night in the woods in a haunted
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  location really anywhere is that it's is a i
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  don't want to say summoning but it's like it's
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  a call out that hey i'm here come find me or
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  come to me or whatever it's and like yes we when
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  we're going on investigations yeah that's kind
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  of what we do but i feel like it's more in the
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  superstition side of things specifically it brings
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  about More beings and entities that are inhuman
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  and we may not want to interact with, or at least
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  I don't want to. That's just the thing with me.
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  I want to interact with them. Yeah. So. But also.
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  There's a time and place. Yeah. Also being someone
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  who has been at a paranormal location and have
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  had my mimic, my. whistle be mimicked back to
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  me i don't necessarily like that we'll talk about
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  that later yeah we need to get into that because
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  we do we do need to talk about that yeah but
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  um because i even i've talked to some paranormal
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  investigators who are like you should not whistle
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  at all like any time of the day in any haunted
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  location and it's like i can understand that
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  but also at the same time like i don't know i'll
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  i'll whistle tunes and i feel like that um can
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  be more of like a calming energy and bring about
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  a different sort of energy into an investigation
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  compared to just like a whistle for the purpose
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  of trying to interact with something i don't
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  know if that makes sense makes sense it does
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  i get it for me it's like i don't think if you're
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  like in an apartment or a house and you whistle
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  like i don't know like to me the whole whistling
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  thing the reason i'm conflicted on it is because
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  like whistling is loud and it cuts through the
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  air and it reaches further than if you're just
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  standing in the middle of the woods and you just
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  say you know hi and you're like come here yeah
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  You're really only talking to the ghosts in your
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  vicinity. If you whistle, though, that goes so
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  far into the woods that you are essentially projecting
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  and calling out to things that aren't in your
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  immediate vicinity. But if you whistle in your
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  house, that's just going to bounce back to you,
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  I assume. Yeah. I do believe there's an element...
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  I feel like when you're saying that, you're talking
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  as... As if, like, you know how sound bounces
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  off walls and stuff like that. Like, I feel like
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  that doesn't necessarily count the same towards
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  the spirit world. Like, your whistle, they'll
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  know it anyway. It's not like it's... You know
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  what I mean? Well, is it the whistle itself?
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  Or is it the fact that... Because that's the
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  thing, I don't think the sound of a whistle is
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  necessary. Yes, it is a more universal language,
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  and hey demon, what's up? But I don't think it's
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  the whistle itself. To me, my hesitation is you're
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  then extending the conversation and invitation
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  to things that aren't in your vicinity. Like
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  at Piercini, for example, which is, I think,
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  what we all are wanting to talk about. We did
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  the whole episode last week about... piercini
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  what piercini is the new documentary we have
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  out piercini plague in the pines and we spend
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  the whole episode talking about all the crazy
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  shit that didn't make the cut well we forgot
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  to talk about this and this is why i wanted to
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  talk about whistling in this episode is it's
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  essentially a cemetery that's abandoned in the
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  middle of the woods the woods are hella haunted
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  the railroad track adjacent to the cemetery hella
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  haunted when We were filming, and we split up,
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  and you, Bree, were with... Who were you with?
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  You were with Riley. I was with Riley, Tara,
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  and Caleb. And you were in the clearing in the
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  woods. Mm -hmm. And... Or you were sitting around
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  a fire doing an Estes Method session. Yep, yep.
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  And me, Angela, Trevor, and Tommy Tombstone,
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  we were in the cemetery. And even though it's
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  the same haunting... You know, when you're in
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  a cemetery and we were investigating the grave
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  of Augustine O'Dell, who's like a renowned veteran
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  who is buried there. There's a lot of info on
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  him in the historical society. We're trying to
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  interact with him. If we're standing around a
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  grave of a known resident and we're trying to
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  interact with him, you want to do EVP. You want
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  to talk to him. I don't want to whistle. and
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  bring all the potentially elemental more inhuman
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  ancient stuff to the resting place of these human
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  spirits you know what i'm saying like that's
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  my thing like you're now extending the conversation
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  beyond the grave in front of you to all the other
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  things in the woods that could then hear that
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  whistle and come i don't know if that makes any
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  sense but that's why i'm kind of about whistling
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  yeah yeah makes sense uh but there was a weird
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  moment we were around the grave and uh well well
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  actually you need to set up what happened to
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  you first because there's a weird moment where
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  we both on opposite sides of the woods you know
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  we're in the cemetery you were like on the other
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  side in this clearing we both started without
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  communicating with each other in no way of knowing
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  what each other was doing yeah we both started
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  whistling at the same time we both decided to
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  whistle uh without talking to each other communicating
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  we had no idea what each other were doing my
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  group we just looked at each other like should
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  we whistle just as a random thought then we started
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  whistling then on the footage if you line it
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  up your group riley just whistles, and then Tara,
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  who has the Estus method set up, says, there
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  was a whistle. You should whistle. And then Riley
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  whistles again, and then she says, another whistle.
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  That was so weird. It was beyond crazy. So we
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  were whistling to each other without knowing
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  it. Yeah. I don't know, synchronicity, weird.
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  And how can Tara, who has the headphones that
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  are noise canceling, she was doing the Estus
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  method. how can she know that both you we whistled
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  and you guys whistled because she said whistle
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  and another whistle i don't know yeah and then
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  right it was just a weird situation the whole
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  thing was insane and right after that all the
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  coyotes started howling too and it was just like
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  and the whole everything just got so intense
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  it was so weird but i do you think I do because
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  again this didn't make the film this is one of
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  those things it's like you hear this and you're
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  like how did that not make it in the film but
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  this isn't a spoiler because it is legit not
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  in it at all if you want to see what actually
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  made the film you can stream it right now on
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  paraflex it's called pierce you need plague in
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  the pines go watch it but do you guys think the
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  whistling when you put it like that we had this
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  whistling moment and then all the coyotes started
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  howling and dude i don't think that was a coincidence
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  honestly yeah i don't hit the fan it really did
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  i don't i don't think i can't say it was or wasn't
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  a coincidence i i don't know it's hard to say
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  because like we're in the woods a lot of things
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  can explain just being in the woods but You do
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  have the factors of everything else that was
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  going on at that point. It's almost too much
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  to say. It's just coincidence. Bree, can whistling,
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  like if you have a lot of whistling, could that
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  stir up animals at all? Just normally? Or do
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  they not normally respond to human whistles?
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  They don't normally respond to human whistles
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  that I know of. Now, we did a Bigfoot hunt. I
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  think we might have talked about it on this podcast.
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  We did a Bigfoot hunt many years ago. There are
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  some weird Bigfoot calls that kind of incorporated
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  whistling in them. What do you make of that?
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  I was thinking about this just before the podcast
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  because we were talking about a different project
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  and I was thinking about how similar it is to
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  Bigfoot hunting. And I'm like... Oh yeah, one
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  of the calls for Bigfoot hunting is whistling
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  because supposedly that's one of their forms
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  of communication along with like wood knocks
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  and howling. And it's like, how, why, I'm just
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  baffled at like, just like you watch those Bigfoot
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  documentaries and stuff and they'll sometimes
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  get like whistle responses and it's like, is
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  that actually Bigfoot? Is that something else?
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  I don't know. I don't know. So why is Bigfoot
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  whistling and knocking on trees? I don't know.
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  But, like, he's not, you know, no one's finding
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  his fur, his poop, sketchy footprints. No one's
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  seen him, caught him, but he's just sitting there.
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  Poor people. People have said that they've seen
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  their footprints, but you don't really get any
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  other evidence of anything else. I mean, some
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  people claim to have found Bigfoot hair. True,
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  but did they ever get tested or anything by a
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  scientist? I mean, there is one show I was watching
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  on Discovery for a while that was a Bigfoot hunting
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  show, and they were very... very science -y about
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  the whole thing and they'd collect samples and
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  they would send them out for testing. But were
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  they actually sending them out for testing? Who
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  knows? If it's a bigger show, maybe. You can
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  literally say anything on TV and be like, yeah,
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  we're sending this out for testing. And later
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  say, yeah, this came back as this. There's no
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  way to verify that that's real. I'm thinking
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  of, like, Expedition X. Like, they do that a
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  lot. But, like, sometimes, but sometimes not.
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  They'll go over to the place where the lab or
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  whatever that they send it off to, and then they
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  talk to the actual scientist and be like, oh,
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  yeah, this is what this is. But who's to say
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  that lab or scientists are actually, like, a
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  real lab and real scientists? Exactly. Even if
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  they are, it's like, yeah. you should do follow
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  -up testing and there's like more to testing
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  than just one quick like the minimum testing
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  you need just to get a false positive to be able
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  to say on tv oh this was really weird and then
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  say quietly will require a lot more testing to
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  see if it actually could be a bigfoot you know
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  yeah yeah i i just yeah but yeah so yes but yeah
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  so the the whistling thing with bigfoot and like
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  whistling in the woods it's like i don't I don't
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  know what to think of it. I want to go Bigfoot
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  hunting and go to like the number one place that
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  Bigfoot is seen in Michigan. We set up a camp
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  all night and we just whistle nonstop and hit
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  wood and see if we can attract Bigfoot. Or do
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  you think it can also attract Dogman as well?
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  I wonder if that would work for Dogman. I guess
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  throw a dart at any random paranormal thing and
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  if you whistle it knows how to whistle back i
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  know i just think it's so fun to do like let's
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  go like legit camping in the middle of the woods
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  where no one will hear a scream and like try
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  to get bigfoot to come out or dog see see my
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  i i have gone bigfoot hunting with ben before
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  but my my hesitancy with like bigfoot hunting
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  or even dog man hunting is like if these creatures
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  actually exist and you do find one What do you
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  do? And you are in its vicinity. You're not getting
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  out of there. I think, yeah, this is a dumber
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  idea than whistling to a demon. Like, like, yeah,
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  she needs cemetery. We're saying, like, we're
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  weary of whistling because then. inhuman ancient
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  elemental might come up you know this is a dumber
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  idea you're talking about i mean it's cartoonish
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  to me to think about bigfoot standing there on
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  a tree whistling yeah avoiding all detection
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  but seriously like a dog man or any cryptid just
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  whistling definitely be more scared of dog man
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  than um than bigfoot for sure have you guys heard
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  that audio of that guy in the woods like driving
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  his truck and dog man like It was like a 911
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  call. Yeah. You heard of that? That's a whack
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  phone call right there. We heard of the MSU Paranormal
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  one time. We did. Is that real? Sorry, I'm off
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  -tracking, but I didn't really want to know if
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  it was real. I don't know. On the side of caution,
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  I would say no, but also I have no idea. Well,
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  if it's not real, like... Are you asking is it
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  a dog man? Probably not, but you have to assume
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  that could be an animal, so why would you go
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  there and try to taunt that potentially real
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  animal to come see your camp? I don't know, just
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  to figure out if they're real. Isn't that the
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  point of doing any of this? I don't, again, going
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  back to not every mystery needs to be solved,
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  I don't want to or care to be the person that
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  proves if dog man is real or not. That's so fair.
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  It's like, let someone else that has no sense
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  of self -purpose in life go out and do that.
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  Instead of camping, we could find a cabin that's
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  in the middle of the woods so we have an actual
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  building to protect ourselves. But I've seen
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  cabin in the woods. God. Also, like, if Dogman
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  really wanted to get into a cabin or Bigfoot,
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  they would. You're not going to stop them. That
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  is true. They're probably very strong. I mean,
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  have you seen Bigfoot kicking down doors? He's
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  got those big ass feet. How did the conversation
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  devolve from whistling to this? What do you mean
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  devolve? Evolve. No, drop that D. Okay, so speaking
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  of cartoonish Bigfoot scenarios, imagine Bigfoot
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  walking up, seeing a cabin, and just like tapping
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  his toe on the door and just crumbles and falls
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  down because he has such big feet. That's crazy.
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  And then they look at him in panic and they're
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  like, oh, Bigfoot! But then he just whistles
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  and runs away. He whistles to attract his other
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  Bigfoot friends in the area. He just whistles
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  a little tune like Brianna. He whistles a Yankee
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  Doodle. What is it? Yankee Doodly Doo? What's
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  that song? You added too many syllables. It's
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  just Yankee Doodle. But also, that's not a tune
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  that I usually whistle, so... It sounds like
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  we... Well, me and Bree sound like we are in
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  sync here. And what are you saying about me?
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  Well, it sounds like you... How I'm not in sync?
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  I mean, I'm not saying that's bad. I think it's
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  good. I don't think any of us are in sync with
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  the boy band. No. I'm just saying Angela's like
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  all gung -ho. She's like, let's whistle to demons.
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  Let's whistle to Dogman. Let's whistle to Bigfoot.
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  I just want to whistle all night and see who
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  comes to say hi. No care in the world. She just
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  loves whistling. That'd be so fun. And imagine
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  if you survived the night, the stories you'd
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  be able to tell. If you survive the night, if
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  you survive the night. If we survive the night.
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  Here's the difference between me and Bree and
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  you, Ange. I'm not going alone, okay? Well, you
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  probably will be, because we don't, me and Bree,
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  we don't go on ghost hunts. We're on the invitation
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  that says, yeah, so we're going to do this, this,
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  and this, and then if we make it out alive...
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  We'll talk about it on the devolving podcast
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  next week. We don't like that if we make it out
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  alive. So, when we make it out alive, which is
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  a 100 % fact that we will. Yes. Is that better?
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  There's a lot of... Manifest that the survival
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  will happen. I feel like I need to talk to my
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  attorney before I agree to any of this. Not your
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  HR manager? No, she bumped it. I talked to my
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  HR manager. She said, there's a lot of strings
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  attached and it's getting kind of tricky, so
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  we need to bump it up to legal management. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I did say those exact words, didn't I?
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  Yeah. Hey, legal team, what's up? This bitch
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  wanted to whistle in the woods. Yeah, that's
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  a little risky, eh? We can't let you do that.
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  Oh gosh. Sorry, I'm making notes about what we
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  should and should not do. You need to make actual
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  notes? What did you write verbatim? I'm curious
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  about the whistling. I'm writing nothing for
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  vibratum, but I'm just going to say one of the
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  things is that we're going to go out camping
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  in the middle of the woods or rent a cabin and
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  we're going to whistle all night. We'll hire
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  a professional whistle. Where did you write that?
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  In the do or do not part of it. The do part of
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  it. So what's the do not part? Oh, I didn't get
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  anything yet for that. No, no, do not part. It's
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  don't whistle for Dogman. That's the do not part.
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  I don't think you can differentiate your whistles,
• 24:58
  Angela. Well... What are you gonna do, like,
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  whistle one way for Bigfoot and whistle like
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  you're calling a dog for Dogman? Like, come here,
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  Dogman! whistle once for yes twice for no are
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  you dog man okay no but here's here's here's
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  a theory do you know how people think like bigfoot
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  is a like a spirit or maybe an alien or something
• 25:27
  or an alien like an interdimensional being yeah
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  yeah so if that's the case to like don't you
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  want shouldn't you have to like summon these
• 25:39
  creatures to get their attention. So if you're
• 25:42
  whistling specifically only for Bigfoot, shouldn't
• 25:46
  it only be Bigfoot that comes out? I mean, not
• 25:49
  necessarily, but like, isn't that like... So
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  you're saying the intention behind the whistle
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  means more than the actual whistle itself? Yes.
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  Maybe. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. I'm not no
• 26:05
  expert in whistling in the woods. This is just
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  a theory. It sounds too much like a ritual where
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  I was saying that with rituals, one can argue
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  that intention is more important than actual
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  ritual. Because if you put all your intention
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  into it, at that point, the ritual itself is
• 26:21
  just theater. And it sounds like if you intend
• 26:24
  to summon Bigfoot, whistling is just theatrics
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  for your intention to find Bigfoot. Yeah, I guess.
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  I don't know. I don't like that. I don't know.
• 26:35
  Now everyone's going to be scared to whistle.
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  Because we're talking about whistling in the
• 26:40
  same way we're talking about rituals. Well, I
• 26:45
  mean, it kind of is. It could be like a ritual
• 26:48
  to a certain extent. Okay, but like... I do see
• 26:53
  the point. You get it, Brianna, right? I mean,
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  this is just all talk, you know? i i don't know
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  i don't know does this really count as a ritual
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  maybe if you make it one but maybe not does the
• 27:08
  intention have a big part with the whistling
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  possibly i bet it can but could it also attract
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  anything in the area or whatever possibly yes
• 27:20
  too i don't know my thought is like what's the
• 27:23
  difference between because really if you're just
• 27:26
  talking about a universal sound that cuts through
• 27:29
  airwaves you know to attract things what's the
• 27:32
  difference between a whistle and a bell because
• 27:34
  we use bells in rituals remember we used a uh
• 27:38
  old uh altar bell uh that is in the shape of
• 27:43
  an owl when we filmed seven the mystery of jocks
• 27:46
  and when we rang it to mark the end of the ritual
• 27:48
  an owl actually hooted in response to us ringing
• 27:51
  an owl bell wow that was so cool So cool. I don't
• 27:57
  know. Can you kind of view whistling in that
• 27:59
  way, too, of, like, that same purpose? Maybe.
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  It's kind of creepy if it is. I think if you
• 28:07
  think hard enough about it, you could. Mm -hmm.
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  So the point is we should be weary about how
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  and when we whistle in the woods at night. Yes.
• 28:21
  I agree to that statement. Angela's like, You
• 28:25
  guys didn't hear a single thing I said. No, we
• 28:27
  did. We did. We did. She's like, I'm still going
• 28:30
  to whistle in the woods at night. And that's
• 28:34
  okay. I'm reading it go across your forehead,
• 28:37
  Angela. That's okay. Just make sure you are safe
• 28:45
  enough in the process to be able to tell us how
• 28:48
  it went on our devolving podcast. It's going
• 28:51
  to be with you guys. I'm not going to go alone.
• 28:54
  And I can't just invite my non -paranormal friends
• 28:57
  or family because they're not going to fucking
• 28:59
  understand it. And then the shit's not going
• 29:01
  to work. You know, I need you guys there with
• 29:03
  me. That might be best, actually, because, you
• 29:08
  know, people that understand whistling are more
• 29:11
  likely to be chicken shits about whistling than
• 29:13
  people like you think your mom, if she goes out
• 29:17
  there and she's like, you want me to whistle?
• 29:19
  OK, you know, she'll just whistle. Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:26
  Yeah, she probably would, honestly. Maybe I should
• 29:29
  invite my mom out, okay? But if you think about
• 29:33
  it in that way, how many normal, regular, average
• 29:39
  Joe people whistle at night and nothing happens
• 29:42
  to them? True. The more you know, the more scared
• 29:46
  you're likely to be because you know the potential
• 29:48
  risks. We've had this conversation before where
• 29:53
  I don't remember which episode, but I know we
• 29:55
  talked about it where we think being scared as
• 30:01
  a big influence for the activity that happens
• 30:04
  around you, you know, like it causes energy.
• 30:07
  So if you're like really scared to whistle out
• 30:10
  in the woods and you whistle, okay, maybe that's
• 30:13
  going to. cause some activity to actually happen
• 30:15
  compared to a person who's not scared to do it
• 30:18
  who doesn't know these things about whistling
• 30:20
  and if they whistle out in the woods no nothing's
• 30:23
  gonna happen you know yeah come on to something
• 30:30
  so whistle in the woods don't whistle in the
• 30:33
  woods it's up to your decision uh what listen
• 30:38
  what i'm thinking so far is that it's really
• 30:42
  up to the per an individual if they whistle and
• 30:45
  if anything really actually happens yeah i mean
• 30:49
  that's the thing with i mean also in the parent
• 30:52
  we're never telling people to or not to do anything
• 30:55
  like you're your own humans do whatever you want
• 30:59
  to do um even the three of us have varying uh
• 31:03
  uh opinions on pretty much every topic so you
• 31:08
  know it's not surprising that we all Don't really
• 31:11
  know where to land with a, you know, should you
• 31:14
  or should you not whistle? But it does sound
• 31:16
  like there's a potential to interact with something
• 31:23
  you might not know you're interacting with. If
• 31:26
  that's any more or less of a risk than any other
• 31:30
  paranormal device or methodology, I don't know.
• 31:34
  But, you know, certain people in certain situations
• 31:38
  could. conjure or summon or invite something
• 31:42
  to interact if they do a whistle. I don't know,
• 31:46
  is that broad enough to encompass everyone's
• 31:48
  opinions? I feel like it. Yeah. Man, I want guests
• 31:53
  on this show to get other people's opinions,
• 31:56
  not just ours. Yeah, we'll start doing guests
• 31:59
  this year. It's 2026 now. Yeah. I finally got
• 32:04
  out of, it was February 2nd for, you know. A
• 32:08
  year there. And now that we're making progress
• 32:11
  forward, we have a movie out. It's no longer
• 32:14
  Groundhog's Day. I get to listen to new episodes
• 32:18
  and go on new adventures with you. Maybe we'll
• 32:21
  have a guest on soon. Yeah, I'm glad you were
• 32:23
  finally able to escape your time loop. Yes. For
• 32:29
  those that are unaware, Groundhog's Day was a
• 32:33
  movie where basically this guy... Don't do this
• 32:36
  again. Do not do this again. I will leave. Thanks
• 32:45
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• 32:47
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• 32:55
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• 32:58
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• 33:01
  paranormal deep dive.