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S2 E31: Stupid Star Wars Names · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there. It's time for most things,
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  Kenobi. Shouldn't it be?
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  All things Kenobi Hi everyone.
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  Welcome to another episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast
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  about Obi Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host, Lauren. And I'm your host, Leanne.
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  And this week we are going to talk about names.
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  But before we get into that, we're just a different.
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  Kind of name? Yeah, exactly.
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  We're going to shout out one of our patrons, our dear friend
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  Leah. She has been with us for years
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  and years. And she is.
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  Yes, she's an OG. She's amazing.
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  We just want to thank her first of all for years of support and
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  tell her in public that we love her very, very much.
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  Yes, in fact, very, very much. I remember when we used to be on
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  Twitter and I would run the Twitter account, she was always
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  so interactive and so positive and it was wonderful getting DMS
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  from her. So I kind of miss that now that
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  we're off Twitter. But she's she's been a patron
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  forever and a dear friend of the show and of ours, so I'm happy
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  to shout her out on this episode.
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  Yes. So thank you, Leah.
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  We love you and we're sending you lots of good vibes and good
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  energy. Big MTK hugs your way.
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  Now on to some stupid names, yeah?
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  Ready to talk about stupid, stupid, stupid Star Wars names?
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  I had so much fun and like making the list for today's
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  episode and I it also angered me to an unreasonable level.
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  I'm so excited for this episode. You know what it made me realize
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  doing the research for this is that I actually hate most Star
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  Wars names and only like a few. I did come to realize what I
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  deem a great Star Wars name and a really bad one, which is what
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  we're talking about this episode.
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  But I do think we should talk about the great Star Wars names,
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  at least from our point of view. Yeah, like in an another episode
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  or like at the end of this? Yeah, I totally agree.
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  I was gonna bring it up to you because I'm like, oh, that's a
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  good 10. That's a real good one.
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  I'm like, oh, I need to remember these.
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  So we could do it like a flip side episode of this.
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  But for today, yeah, it's the, it's the stupid ones.
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  I can't wait. I have a whole list.
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  The thing that was like my benchmark was when I read it if
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  I was like, like actually cringe.
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  Reading like yeah, there's so. Many.
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  Mind spanned. Either this is so anger inducing
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  and stupid I don't even want to say the name or it's so basic
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  and horrible that I just was like I can't even.
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  It has to be on here. Sam, I have I have several of
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  both categories. And I want to delineate this
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  does not necessarily mean I dislike the character.
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  True, yes. Sometimes I just hate the name
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  for the way it's spelled. Oh, I can't wait to, I can't
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  wait to hear what your list involved because we again, we
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  did not tell each other so we could have crossovers here.
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  Yes, true, we could. I mean, the thing that struck me
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  was how vast the amount of names are.
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  Like just researching names in Clone Wars was overwhelming so.
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  It's true, yeah. And actually.
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  Likelihood of us having crossover is slim, comparatively
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  speaking. Very.
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  Now I went through lists of species and I didn't have as
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  many as I thought. In fact, I don't have any on
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  here. No species that I thought were
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  stupidly named. Oh, I think almost all of them
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  are stupid, and I also think all the planets are stupid too.
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  I didn't even use species and I just use proper names 'cause I
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  just. I found it all unbearable.
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  There is a certain charm to the Star Wars Ness of a name like
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  the planets. You know, there's there's some
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  really iconic Star Warsy names that shouldn't be touched.
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  And I I'm in that camp of where they they crossover from stupid
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  to just iconic. I can see that none of those are
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  on this list of my list. Yeah, those.
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  No, if I could have even an ounce of respect for it, I
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  didn't include it on this list. OK, we are in the same camp
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  then. This.
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  This should be fabulous. I'm worried mine aren't going to
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  be as stupid as yours. Actually, I'm worried mine are
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  going to be just regular to most people, so going to just be
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  regular characters that everybody else is like what's
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  wrong with that name? I will probably hate it so.
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  OK, so so disclaimer again, we're not saying that the
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  character sucks, we're just saying the name is stupid.
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  And also feel free to disagree with us wholeheartedly.
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  This is just a fun episode. Totally.
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  I think that it's this kind of thing is very person to person
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  like totally person who loves Star Wars is going to have
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  certain names they hate and certain names they love and it's
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  just a this is not a our opinion here is no reflection on you
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  whatsoever. Please like what you want to
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  like. Yes, and in fact, we would love
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  to know at the end of all this via social media what names you
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  think are stupid in Star Wars. But we'll get to that.
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  All right, So how are we going to start?
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  Should we go with the one that we hate the most and think is
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  the stupidest or? I mean, everybody, if you've
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  listened to this show at all, you already know my #1.
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  I think I do. Yeah, I would just get it out of
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  the way. Go ahead.
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  You go first, then get it out. The stupid dark Jedi.
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  I can't even start from the original Throne trilogy books by
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  Timothy Zott. Yes, by researching how to
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  pronounce this, I have learned that most people in Star Wars
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  have no idea how to pronounce this until the audio book came
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  out of this. Trilogy, OK.
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  So it's Joruch Sabeath. This is one that we've brought
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  up time, especially you, time and time and time again on the
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  show, yes. Yes, how do you get that
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  pronunciation? This is one of those things
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  where it's like, I just hate how it's fucking spelled.
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  C apostrophe BAOTH. Fuck off, I'm sorry, 'cause I
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  love Timothy Zahn and that actually caused my heart a
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  little pain to say. But again, not correlating the
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  stupidity of the name or the spelling with anything.
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  Yeah, yeah. How do you?
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  Pronounce it. Say it again.
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  Jorus Sabayath. Sabayath.
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  Joruth Sabayath. Yeah, some people thought it was
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  a hard C like yeah, Cabath. Yeah.
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  Which I never my brain never thought that with the CI, always
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  thought it was like a sound. But strange name.
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  I don't like it I. Don't like it?
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  Too much effort. Yeah, exactly.
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  It's one of those things where the first time I look at it, my
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  brain just went, not even gonna try.
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  It. Just like kind of made a smushy
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  sound every time I would read it in the text.
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  Isn't that funny when you read a book and you don't quite know
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  the name, but your brain, it's whatever comes out that's like
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  kind of rolls off the brain, if you will, instead of the tongue.
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  Yes, I get that so much yes. I purposely try to not write
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  characters with names like that and and like fix that I write
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  so. Yeah, I'm the same.
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  I try to make the names that I write pretty.
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  You could figure it out like if you need it so.
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  Yes, correct. Yeah.
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  All right, what is your stupidest name?
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  I've brought it up before and I hate this.
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  I think it's the dumbest name in Star Wars.
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  The dumbest name in Star Wars. I can't wait.
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  Please, you're killing me. Pre Viesla, you know where's
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  post Viesla? I hate pre Viesla.
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  I hate that name. I hate it.
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  I hate it so much. It's stupid.
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  I hate it. Throw it away.
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  Where's? Post Viesla.
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  You remember when I said that? Because I'm still waiting for
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  Post Viesla to show up. Stupid Star Wars name pre
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  Viesla. You got it here that did.
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  Come to mind for me that I just didn't like.
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  That's like that character, just I don't like it.
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  I don't. Never never really felt strongly
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  about anything other than my dislike for the name.
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  Yeah, yeah. Could have been pro visla PRI
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  visla post visla but Previsla irritates the hell out of me and
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  it's got to go, got to go, got to go.
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  Also, I just, this is probably like a really unpopular take,
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  but I just, I don't, I don't like Jon Favreau as the voice of
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  that character. See, I don't even connect the
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  two because I have thrown out the entire character based on
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  the fucking first name. So.
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  But I get it. I totally get it.
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  I get it. Yeah.
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  That was delightful. I'm glad you thought so.
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  What's your next one? My next one is also from a book.
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  It's from Shadows of the Empire. The main villain is spelled
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  XIZOR. And right, that's what you would
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  think. And it's no, it's she's or the X
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  is silent, but it's making a she sound.
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  Why is it silent? I don't understand it.
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  This is what I saw online that it was the X is silent.
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  Maybe OK if it's based on an Asian language, maybe then,
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  which I don't have enough familiarity with, But just as a
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  teenager reading that I had no idea how to pronounce it and I
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  there was no Internet to search how it was pronounced at the
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  time. I've always.
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  Pronounced it like Z, like xylophone.
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  Me too, me too. Zizor.
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  Zizor. Or something like that.
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  But there apparently, which I'd forgotten this.
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  There's a moment in the book where, and I remember this, he
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  has an automated chair that he speaks to.
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  Like it mispronounces his name or something so that he has to
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  say like correct it so that the readers are supposed to know how
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  to pronounce it. I was like too much if.
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  You have. If you have to do that in a
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  book, change the name exactly. If you have to have a chair
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  speak to you, if you have to introduce a stupid plot so that
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  you can explain how to pronounce your character, you really
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  should have picked a different name, OK?
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  This gets 2 points for stupid because not only is the name
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  stupid, but you had to add a stupid subplot thing additive in
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  the story to ensure that people knew.
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  I can't. I can't, stupid.
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  Stupid. What's your next one?
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  Cena I love this character and this hurts my heart a little
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  bit, but it's a dumb Star Wars name.
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  I think Wedge, Antilles, wedge, wedge, wedge.
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  In Star Wars, I forget that that's a stupid name.
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  And then when you take it out and you're like, the word Wedge
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  as a name is a bizarre choice. Is it short for something?
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  Wedge salad Antilles. Wedge in your pants, Antilles
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  wedgie. There's just like door wedge.
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  Yeah, door wedge is what my brain thinks at first, which is
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  how dry and boring my internal monologue is.
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  By Wedge for such an iconic character too.
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  We love Wedge, he's done nothing wrong.
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  He made it. He made it all the way to the
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  end just because his name is Wedge.
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  He did, and his name is Wedge. A lot better than pre Wiesela.
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  But you know what's? Funny is that my next choice is
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  also from that same. Movie.
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  Oh really? Do tell.
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  Do tell. I guess the the original trilogy
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  my my next one is Jack Porkins. Oh, that one.
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  How did I forget that one? Not the Porkins.
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  Not. That one do we really have to
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  like like make a fat joke in Star Wars and call someone
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  Porkins? Like just I've seen memes where
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  they have them eating like a bucket of Kentucky Fried
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  Chicken. Like it's just wrong and stupid.
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  It's a. Pretty bad one.
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  So bad and like everyone knows it.
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  Everyone knows it and he doesn't make it so.
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  I know it's. At least he lives on in the
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  name. It's.
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  Just disrespectful. It's terrible.
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  That's a terrible star worth. Yeah.
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  I I don't have that on my list and it really should be on this
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  list. It's always made me
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  uncomfortable. It's just not right.
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  Porkins deserved to be named something better than pork.
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  He really did he he deserves so much better.
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  What's your next one? My next one is just lazy and
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  horrible and forgettable and I have issues with the movie.
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  I have issues with everything about it.
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  Benicio del Toro's character in The Last Jedi, DJ.
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  Just the DJ one too. Do you really?
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  It's so fucking stupid. It's so stupid.
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  God, yeah, sometimes they pull in a name from our universe and
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  it works like Luke. Yeah, Bright.
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  DJ is terrible. Not one of those names, and
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  especially if you're our age, you grew up watching Full House
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  and DJ Tanner is going to be the first DJ you think of.
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  It's the one. It's the only one I think of.
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  Even over a music DJ, I will think of DJ Tanner.
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  Same. This is a really unfortunate and
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  stupid name for a really unfortunate and stupid
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  character. Unforgettable.
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  Lazy. Totally forgettable.
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  Yes. Like he, I don't even remember
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  why he was there. Did he end up doing anything?
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  Probably not, besides having a stupid name.
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  Yeah, it was like the whole point was that he was supposed
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  to help them escape and then double cross them at some point,
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  but it kind of didn't even do that full arc as I recall, and I
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  just felt like it was not necessary.
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  No. And that name is just goddamn
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  dumb. It's stupid.
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  I can't handle it. I'm glad you had that one.
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  That's a good one to have. Like if we're going to double
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  up, that's a good one. I'm I'm mad that I don't have
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  porkins on mine but it's covered at least.
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  You might have my next one on there though.
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  What is it? I I actually think CAD Bane is a
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  stupid name, but I really think Colby, his actual name, is the
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  stupidest name in all of Star Wars.
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  It is the very next one on my list.
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  In fact, I have written here CAD Bane's original name, Colby.
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  Not 'cause I don't like the name Colby, but because that name
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  with that character, I'm sorry, that is just no, that's a no
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  from me. So awful.
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  Come on, he's such a bad ass. And I think we both had the
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  experience when they said it in the show.
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  We were like, what? What?
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  My God. What was it done so that
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  something gentle and mild could turn into a CAD Bane?
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  You know, like streaming? You know I.
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  Think so. And I think it was like a little
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  risk they were taking and I don't think it paid off.
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  I don't think so either, because now, yeah, it's a great name for
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  a little kid. Like the kid character, like a
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  street name for not in the sense of like street cred, but like a
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  little kid. Yeah.
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  Like you can think about, you know, like a 1940s movie about
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  or like, you know, Charles Dickens, kids on the street,
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  that kind of. Yeah.
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  Newsies. Some something very mild
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  mannered. Yes, yeah, yeah.
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  Not, not a gun slinging, you know, toothpick chewing at
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  wearing red eyed monster in the street.
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  You know, yeah, I mean he is one of the cold blooded killers and
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  he has the name Colby. Just yeah, can't be cracked.
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  It can't be unlearned now that we know it.
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  Yeah, exactly. It changes the whole way I see
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  the character in a negative way. It's bad.
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  It's real bad. That's so funny that you had it
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  too. I did.
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  It was the very next one. Oh, what's your next one then,
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  since we kind of had the same one there?
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  I I I've never liked this name because it's so like.
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  I I don't dislike it and it doesn't irritate me as much as
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  the others, but like I have Captain Phasma.
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  I just, I just don't like it. It doesn't it doesn't describe
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  the character at all, and it doesn't line up with the
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  actress. It doesn't line up with the
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  storyline for that. It Phasma is just not it.
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  It's too. Yeah.
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  It paints a different picture in my brain than what it is and I
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  always hate it. I think it's a dumb name,
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  Phasma. I don't like it.
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  It's not scary enough for what she is.
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  Right, it's it falls a little. I just like flat.
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  Yeah, yeah. It doesn't line up well.
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  And honestly, it's. OK I feel like I'm trying to
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  over explain but I just think it's terrible.
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  I think it's a dumb Star Wars name.
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  Yeah, yeah, I agree. It's just weak.
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  Just disappointing. A disappointing name.
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  Yeah, I agree. And actually loved the actress.
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  She was phenomenal on Game. Yeah, Game of Thrones.
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  Gwendolyn. Brienne of Tarth sounds a lot
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  better than Captain Phasma, you know what I mean?
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  She's been like. Taking her Game of Thrones name
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  and Star Wars eyes did for her. That's what I'm thinking should
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  have been that would have been. But anyway, no more harping on
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  it. What's your next 10?
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  Man, which one should be next? I really hate.
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  I have a lot of ones from books actually.
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  I find I find the effort that they make in books exhausting
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  because they're trying really hard to be Star Warsy in books
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  that it's like, could you just don't, don't try that?
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  Are they? Legends.
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  Are they mostly legends? No.
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  Well, the first two I guess that I mentioned are right.
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  This one is not. This is from master.
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  And apprentice. Oh, OK.
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  And one of the she's not a bad guy or a good guy.
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  She's like ends up being helpful in the end, but she's kind of
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  like in a mortal Gray zone for most of the book and then ends
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  up turning good by the end. Sorry, this is total spoiler if
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  you haven't read the book. I just don't like the name
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  Rahara Wick. Rahara is just, I don't know,
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  it's just I could see why someone be like, oh, that could
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  work. And it's like, but after a long
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  time of listening to it in the audio book, I've got fucking
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  tired of hearing it. See.
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  I haven't read or listened to this book.
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  I know, I know. But like Rahara, that's that's a
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  little. And then to have a short name
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  afterwards, yeah, I could get that.
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  Like a short last name, Like A1 syllable.
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  Yeah, like it's like it makes kind of sense, but then it's
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  exhausting to me. Like I just didn't, I found it
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  by the end, I was totally irritated.
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  And also one of the other characters is named Fanry, which
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  I also hate because it's like just adjacent to a real name.
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  It's like, just pick the real name.
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  I that's what I kind of love what Tony Gilroy does where he
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  just uses a normal name and adds an extra vowel or something.
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  So Marva is just spelled with 2A's and Tim with two M's.
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  Oh yeah, Tim with two M's. He should have.
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  He should have been on my list. I forgot about Tim with two M's.
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  That is the dumbest Star Wars name.
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  Oh shit. But I kind of like it because
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  they're making fun of Star Wars names by using that name.
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  So I that's true. It's not.
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  Themselves. They fucking played themselves
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  with Tim with two M's. Exactly.
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  Yeah. What's your next one?
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  I have, I have Yodel. I'm sorry.
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  Again, no hate to the character on this one, but really, I hate
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  that name. It's like it's like paddle and
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  ladle and spurtle and waddle turtle all once it's all rolled
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  into one. It's like pick a species or a or
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  a tool, a ladle and a turtle equals yodel or something.
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  I don't know. I hate it.
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  I hate the word yodel. It it it comes out weird.
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  Like my tongue has a hard time with yodel.
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  So I think it's stupid. Oh my God I love how this can be
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  either just. Like.
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  These like you don't have people hate to say the word moist like.
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  I hate. That it can be, the spelling it
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  can be I like. There's so many reasons.
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  To dislike stuff. Which is funny 'cause we don't,
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  we don't normally talk negatively about things out
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  here, but this is very funny to me so.
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  Oh, this is just frivolous nonsense.
• 23:25
  This is again I love Yodel, especially with the tales from
• 23:30
  the like when whatever one it was with Dooku.
• 23:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, like. Newfound respect for Yaddle, but
• 23:37
  that name, Yeah, I know Yaddle. Like Diddle, Daddle, or Dawdle
• 23:44
  and Yaddle. Like like the seven dwarfs or
• 23:54
  whatever. Don't diddle.
• 23:56
  Daddle, yaddle. And ladle.
• 24:02
  Yes and the the 7th is ladle so I'm sorry.
• 24:10
  I feel so bad disrespecting the Queen Yodel but I can't do it.
• 24:14
  I can't, her name is dumb anyway my.
• 24:16
  Next one, My next one kind of goes with that in in the same
• 24:19
  sense where I love the character, her name.
• 24:23
  Oh no, what is it? Evan Peele Evan what?
• 24:28
  We have said this on this show. I know again, it's a great name,
• 24:33
  but in Star Wars, for that one eyed grizzled Jedi, Evan seems a
• 24:39
  little Evan, like a sweet teenage boy.
• 24:43
  Yeah, yeah, Evan, who's like selling slushies at on the
• 24:47
  boardwalks, you know what I mean?
• 24:53
  Isn't missing an eye from combat?
• 24:56
  No isn't isn't 2 feet tall and grizzled like you said and ready
• 25:01
  to fight Tarkin. I just can't handle it.
• 25:04
  Yeah, like, I love the character.
• 25:07
  He's such a great character, but that name just feels a little
• 25:10
  weird, even if it's even Peel, because it's spelled the same
• 25:15
  way, like even Evan, it's still just weird.
• 25:18
  I don't know. He he has the ears of those
• 25:22
  gremlins like the Gremlin movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 25:25
  Yeah, that's what I always thought about his Evans.
• 25:29
  All Evans ears there. I like it.
• 25:33
  Love this character. Yeah.
• 25:35
  He's the character, he's a badass and honestly gone too
• 25:39
  soon. Yes, what have you got next?
• 25:43
  I have Snoke. I thought of including that.
• 25:48
  Did you? It's so dumb.
• 25:51
  It's not. It's not vicious enough.
• 25:55
  Well, that's right up there with sheave, but nobody says.
• 25:59
  Sheave. I know it's very because it's
• 26:02
  weird. It's easier to just say
• 26:03
  Palpatine. Palpatine has like several
• 26:06
  syllables and also he's Sidious. So like, yes, Sidious is like
• 26:12
  Sidious, you know, but but Snoke, what, where, where's the
• 26:16
  rest of it? Like what's his?
• 26:18
  Does he? Is that his first name or is
• 26:20
  that his last name is? It as short and unexciting as
• 26:23
  his existence. Exactly.
• 26:28
  Now, no hate to the great Andy Serkis who voices.
• 26:32
  Yes. Snoke.
• 26:34
  But like, if we're going to do one name or one syllable names,
• 26:39
  Snoke ain't it. Yeah, it's always.
• 26:41
  Thought. It was.
• 26:42
  Dumb again, not sinister enough. And like the thing too with Star
• 26:46
  Wars, right, there's the habit of putting what the person is in
• 26:51
  their name. Like CAD bean.
• 26:54
  You know both. Yes.
• 26:56
  Both does. Words are descriptors as well as
• 26:59
  his name. Great example, right?
• 27:01
  But like Snoke, runs the risk of being nothing.
• 27:08
  Like it's flat. It is flat.
• 27:11
  I again like Phasma. I have a thought in my head
• 27:16
  again that maybe many of you out there do not, but I did and it
• 27:20
  doesn't match the character. Yeah, so like smokes smoke to be
• 27:27
  like some sort of ethereal like. Yeah, I'm getting.
• 27:31
  I'm getting something much more like deceiving and I guess he
• 27:35
  kind of was. We didn't know what the fuck he
• 27:39
  was or what is. Again, lack of storytelling.
• 27:43
  Lot much larger issue. You're right, I think we don't
• 27:46
  even know enough about the character to like, have a sense
• 27:49
  of what his name should have been.
• 27:51
  I just. Think it's a dumb name and you?
• 27:55
  My next one is JAD na na Wood. Thank you for bringing this one
• 28:01
  up because I have a skeleton crew name on mine but it's not
• 28:07
  him but I debated putting him on here.
• 28:10
  I just I did I really liked the show.
• 28:14
  His performance is really really good.
• 28:16
  Jod I'm OK with that name. It's not great but I could
• 28:20
  stomach it na na would na na na na like no, I just.
• 28:27
  Hey, hey, na Wood. It's just weird.
• 28:34
  I don't like it. I just it's too like jolly
• 28:38
  bouncy it's. Yeah.
• 28:41
  Yeah, na na. Nope, Nope, Nope.
• 28:46
  Would. Oh, sorry about that.
• 28:54
  No, that's great. Oh my God.
• 28:56
  Yeah. What is your skeleton crew one?
• 29:00
  Oh, mine was whim, and here's here's why.
• 29:05
  Because it's the dumbness of Wim, OK, It's too obvious for
• 29:10
  the kid. It's too obvious for the kid.
• 29:13
  OK, so here's like the flip side of Snoke and Phasma, right?
• 29:18
  The whim works with him, but it's the way they spelled it.
• 29:21
  I just hate it because it's too. It's too.
• 29:24
  And I have another name like this on here.
• 29:27
  It's too. You're trying too hard with this
• 29:30
  one. I know it's kind of in the sense
• 29:32
  of like how Han Solo is actually kind of stupid because he's.
• 29:36
  So low. Yeah, but like because of
• 29:39
  Harrison Ford, you like, you don't even care or think about.
• 29:42
  It anymore it's great, too iconic it it goes from being
• 29:45
  stupid Star Wars name into icon territory.
• 29:47
  Exactly. Yes, yeah, which is what we kind
• 29:50
  of mentioned at the beginning. Why those names will not be on
• 29:53
  this list? Because they're correct.
• 29:56
  So obvious, but it has like it's been redefined exactly, whereas
• 30:01
  Wim is not that way. He's a new character and he's a
• 30:06
  sweet boy. And I really liked him, I really
• 30:08
  did, but I always was a little bit annoyed at the name.
• 30:11
  It was a little too obvious. And if I tell you my next one,
• 30:14
  which I'll wait, you'll, you'll get more of why I picked these
• 30:18
  two, but. OK, I have another one from
• 30:22
  skeleton crew as well. You do What is it?
• 30:24
  What is it? And it's just for the way it's
• 30:27
  spelled, it's Kim the owl character.
• 30:31
  Oh, I remember that. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Yeah, because I loved that character and I thought the
• 30:35
  actress was super good, but it's it's KH apostrophe YMM again.
• 30:41
  Like can we just? Like that's a Star Wars, that's
• 30:44
  a Star Wars spelling. It's for sure.
• 30:46
  This is when I say like it's all consonants.
• 30:48
  Like you're lucky that Y is in there, otherwise it'd just be.
• 30:53
  It's just a sound, it's not a name.
• 30:56
  That's true. That's a good point.
• 30:58
  You're right. I can let it slide like a little
• 31:02
  bit, but I just put it on here as an example of stupid
• 31:04
  spelling. Very much, very much.
• 31:07
  Yep. There's a lot of that.
• 31:08
  There's a lot of that. Yeah.
• 31:10
  All right. Well, what is your next one now
• 31:12
  I'm curious. My next one, we don't even have
• 31:14
  to talk about how much we actually love this character,
• 31:18
  but Savage Opress. Oh yeah, that was like #1 on all
• 31:23
  the lists I looked up for. Oh, really?
• 31:25
  Inspiration. Oh, I just went by like feel
• 31:30
  like I like well, I went by because I couldn't remember D JS
• 31:33
  name. I had to go like who are the bad
• 31:35
  guys in Last Jedi, because I couldn't remember.
• 31:39
  But yeah, I have. I have all savage oppressed
• 31:44
  because it's just too obvious. They even make fun of it.
• 31:48
  In one of the episodes, Sam Whitworth is voicing A bounty
• 31:51
  hunter and he says, like, who's this savage opress?
• 31:54
  Like says it like a cowboy. He does.
• 31:57
  And that's, that's the problem I have with it.
• 31:59
  It's dumb, yeah, but I get it. I get it.
• 32:03
  Yeah, I have. I have the same kind of thing
• 32:07
  because one of mine is moralo eval and it's like God.
• 32:12
  That and I know who that. Is yeah, he's the the like evil
• 32:16
  mastermind that Obi Wan is working with when he's Rico
• 32:20
  Hardeen. Oh shit.
• 32:23
  Yeah, I forgot. About him?
• 32:26
  Yeah, like moralo eval is just again, like world evil.
• 32:31
  Yeah, like, oh God. OK.
• 32:34
  All right, guys, it's. Hard to stomach some of these.
• 32:37
  Yeah, again, like, I like the character, but just find that so
• 32:43
  stupid that it kind of hurts a little bit.
• 32:45
  Yeah, yeah. Do you have any more?
• 32:48
  I only have. I have two left and I probably
• 32:51
  don't need to say them if I don't have to.
• 32:54
  I have a few left. There's one that's like real
• 32:56
  stupid that definitely deserves to be mentioned.
• 32:59
  Do tell. OK, it's the I'm going to say it
• 33:02
  wrong, Ellen or Elan sleazebag, you know?
• 33:12
  It's the death Sticks guy. Like you don't want to show me
• 33:15
  Death sticks, but his name is Sleazebag I.
• 33:19
  Forgot about. That again?
• 33:23
  That one is so stupid it hurts. It's so obvious, it's try too
• 33:29
  hard. Yeah, it's like, let's just be
• 33:32
  funny and call him sleazebag. No, it's like, you know what?
• 33:39
  You didn't even have to name that guy.
• 33:41
  You could have just made him. Death sticks, guy.
• 33:45
  That's literally credit I know him as.
• 33:47
  That's it. Oh God.
• 33:51
  Bless it any who. What's your last one?
• 33:54
  I have I have Rush Clovis. I thought of putting him on here
• 34:00
  too. Did you?
• 34:01
  I thought it's kind of a dumb Star Wars name.
• 34:04
  Yeah, the first name and the last name are just.
• 34:08
  I don't like it. I think it's dumb.
• 34:10
  Yeah, there's a bunch like that. Like Zori Bliss is another one
• 34:14
  that's kind of like that. Yeah, zori, zori I.
• 34:18
  Love, I love the actress. I think she's, I mean, she's
• 34:22
  fucking awesome, but I just, I, I don't know.
• 34:26
  I like the first name Zori, Yeah, but when combined.
• 34:30
  Bliss is like, weird. It took it takes me out of it,
• 34:34
  you know, I don't know. Yeah, And why that name, but not
• 34:38
  other stupid names that I love. I don't know.
• 34:41
  You know, where's the cutoff line?
• 34:42
  I I don't really know but. It's a very, it's very good to
• 34:46
  study this and like, what the Hell's wrong with us and why
• 34:49
  don't we like these? You know, I really have to dig
• 34:54
  deep and figure out why I really, really don't like
• 34:58
  Previsla, but it's stupid. Sometimes it could just be the
• 35:02
  sound of the the word. That's what it is.
• 35:05
  I think that's what it is. Like there are certain words to
• 35:08
  me that are just like, like I will.
• 35:10
  There's certain words I would never use in writing because
• 35:14
  they're, unless I'm specifically trying to imply weakness,
• 35:17
  there's like weak sounding words and I I think that that's all
• 35:20
  part of it. But it doesn't mean that the
• 35:23
  person is weak or the character is weak.
• 35:25
  But there's just something about certain vowel sounds that like
• 35:29
  work on us subconsciously, I think.
• 35:32
  I don't know, maybe it's just like we said before, like on a
• 35:35
  case on the flip. Side what's really interesting
• 35:39
  about the sounds of it all is Rio Chucci is a great Star Wars
• 35:44
  name to me because of the way it it is combined together.
• 35:49
  Rio Rio Chucci, if I can get it out, is a great especially
• 35:56
  Pantorin name because don't they have a lot of vowels in their
• 35:58
  names? I used a Pantorin character and
• 36:01
  I studied them for, for a brief amount of time, but they have,
• 36:04
  yeah, like a lot of vowels and stuff.
• 36:06
  And I, I think that's a great name because of the way it
• 36:08
  sounds together. And The funny thing about Star
• 36:11
  Wars names is that sometimes the name really works if you do the
• 36:15
  first and last name. Or like Darth Vader works just
• 36:19
  as well as Vader. Yeah.
• 36:22
  You know what I mean? Like.
• 36:24
  And it just works. Vader and Moll are great
• 36:27
  examples too, because they're really obvious.
• 36:28
  Like didn't, doesn't Vader like father?
• 36:31
  Doesn't it mean like father in German?
• 36:33
  And Moll is like malevolent, you know, like.
• 36:36
  Yeah, In fact, like all of the Sith or like the Darth names are
• 36:41
  very obvious, but they evoke something like they're supposed
• 36:45
  to. And so while those are obvious,
• 36:47
  they work with the character really well, like they define.
• 36:52
  Yes, like Master Soul comes to mind for me for that because
• 36:56
  soul, sun and light, yes. Totally again so.
• 37:00
  Kind of obvious, but it works really well for some.
• 37:03
  And maybe it comes down to the the actor and how they portray
• 37:06
  it, you know, and then it all ties together.
• 37:09
  But yeah, this is. Interesting.
• 37:12
  It is interesting, you know, like in a way where we're just
• 37:16
  totally having fun and we hope that you guys have had fun
• 37:19
  listening to this and and like being like, no, that's one of my
• 37:22
  favorites or no, that's totally, that's a horrible name, you
• 37:25
  know, So, you know, but it is kind of interesting to think
• 37:29
  about like what is behind all of this?
• 37:31
  What's in a name anyway, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:36
  I do hope we haven't offended anyone, but I hope it was all
• 37:38
  taken in. Oh, gosh, no, I yeah, no, this
• 37:41
  was this was a lot of fun. I think it's we'll be doing
• 37:44
  another one of these with the good, the iconic, the great Star
• 37:50
  Wars name. Yeah, there are some.
• 37:52
  There are some epic ones. And like, I, I know people who
• 37:56
  want to like, I know people have named their children after like
• 37:59
  Anakin and their pets. Like to me, I want to keep them
• 38:02
  in the Star Wars bubble. Like they're when they're really
• 38:06
  good, they're like sort of sacred.
• 38:07
  I don't know because. I'm totally.
• 38:09
  I'm that person, yeah. No, I'm with you.
• 38:12
  I'm with you. Well, that was fun.
• 38:15
  That was really fun. I haven't left that hard in a
• 38:17
  long time. I haven't left that hard since
• 38:19
  our our our watch party. That was Oh my gosh, I was
• 38:23
  laughing my ass up there. Amazing.
• 38:27
  Yes. I can't wait for the next
• 38:29
  episode of that. Yeah, these.
• 38:30
  Listen, we're just having fun over here.
• 38:32
  Hopefully you have two. Our question for you is tell us
• 38:42
  which names you think are stupid Star Wars names.
• 38:46
  Because we got to know. We got to know what you guys
• 38:49
  think. Let us know on our social media
• 38:51
  or on our website. We are dying to know what your
• 38:54
  choices are. I wonder if there's any that we
• 38:57
  totally forgot about. I'm curious.
• 39:00
  Porkins, I'm so mad. Anyway, if you have any, let us
• 39:06
  know. To join us back next time we are
• 39:10
  gonna talk about a sort of new controversy that's coming out in
• 39:14
  the Star Wars universe. You might have heard of it
• 39:17
  already how Adam Driver actually pitched a Star Wars movie to
• 39:21
  Lucasfilm and a apparently it went into pre production and
• 39:26
  then it got cancelled by Disney brass.
• 39:28
  It is a movie called The Hunt for Ben Solo and we want to talk
• 39:31
  about it. We're going to learn a little
• 39:33
  bit more about the script, just kind of talk about what
• 39:35
  happened. And maybe if Disney sees it,
• 39:38
  they might actually, you know, see enough people talking about
• 39:41
  it. They might actually maybe turn
• 39:43
  it into a movie. I heard it was pretty awesome.
• 39:46
  I mean, it's Adam Driver. I'm not surprised.
• 39:49
  Come on, we love Ben Solo. Exactly like we didn't get
• 39:53
  enough. So the whole movie about him, I
• 39:56
  would go see that so. Same.
• 39:58
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