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"WHO'S 'Russian Collusion' Was It?" (Monday, February 9, 2026, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: And cannily, you don't need to do a lot to
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Speaker 1: discourage people from voting.
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Speaker 2: First Thing Today on the Talk Media Network by Joe Thomas,
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Speaker 5: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
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Speaker 5: you on the program that tells you what went on
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Speaker 5: in this case over the weekend and beyond. And then
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Speaker 5: we'll give you our analysis. And then once we've done that,
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Speaker 5: we want to find out how it's impacting you where
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Speaker 5: message as well, use that phone number as well as
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Speaker 5: you get into that. That's the Great and sanctified Chair
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Speaker 5: of the Irony Board in the US Senate, Mark Warner.
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Speaker 5: morning has been sated. Your need for that. At four
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Speaker 5: three four eight eight two four two one seven, he
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Speaker 5: was talking about the Director of National Intelligence being involved
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Speaker 5: your clock, was like three weeks ago. But he's just
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Speaker 5: got a statement on it because his campaign for real
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Speaker 5: saying be careful, Mark, be careful. Mark. He was out
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Speaker 1: Use to try to take some of these federalization efforts
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Speaker 1: on ICE in terms of their going rogue in Minneapolis, but.
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Speaker 5: They're going rogue by the way, uh you know, meaning
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Speaker 1: would that matter if you're all American citizens?
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Speaker 6: Non citizens cannot vote?
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Speaker 5: Because thank you Margaret Brennan for inserting the patently obvious.
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Speaker 5: But Mark just kind of blastpass.
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Speaker 1: Seeing ICE discriminate against Latinos.
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Speaker 5: And again Mark avoids the word citizen very carefully.
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Speaker 1: Families we've seen as well, mixed families where someone may
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Speaker 5: Like run Mark Warner uh, over and over and over again.
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Speaker 5: watch the Super Bowl Alternate Halftime show. But we'll get
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Speaker 5: Epstein and the powerful people that was coming to his
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Speaker 5: Joe was hanging out of the line and he wanted
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Speaker 5: to He was right before we went to the news,
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Speaker 5: positing the question in our suppository, uh regarding you know
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Speaker 5: what changed in Barack Obama and Bill Clinton's view regarding
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Speaker 5: non citizens in the United States, But first time we
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Speaker 5: find out how gold and silver survived the weekend. When
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Speaker 5: we were here Saturday morning, they seemed like they were
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Speaker 5: a little bit on the rebound, but that doesn't mean
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Speaker 5: that it's joined us in Monday morning bounced back to
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Speaker 5: Lunck is fourth generation serving the gold and silver investing
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Speaker 5: in the New Mismatic community. So the New Mismatic beauty pageant, Joel,
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Speaker 5: how are you doing this morning, sir James.
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Speaker 23: I'm doing well, Joe, and you're right. You can always
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Speaker 23: check Golden Source Live pricing at jcisgold dot com. We
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Speaker 23: have it right there at the top of our website,
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Speaker 23: and then you can scroll down and see some charts
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Speaker 23: there at the bottom, and you'll see that gold and
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Speaker 23: silver made some big moves overnight. So start the week
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Speaker 23: gold dot above five thousand dollars ounce. It's currently just
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Speaker 23: slightly below at four thousand and nine and ninety seven dollars,
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Speaker 23: up a little bit over half of percent so far.
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Speaker 23: This morning, silver was also above eighty dollars announce it
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Speaker 23: actually was at eighty one dollars in the middle of
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Speaker 23: the night last night. Is currently up two percent to
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Speaker 23: seventy nine dollars and fifty cents. Wow, up a dollar
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Speaker 23: fifty so far. So gold and silver are back on
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Speaker 23: the move, which is great to see.
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Speaker 5: Which is interesting because I know that the President made
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Speaker 5: some noise Friday about the Dow Jones average and I'm
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Speaker 5: not even sure what the number means. It could be
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Speaker 5: match sticks on the floor, but it's at fifty thousand
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Speaker 5: and And you know, when when Wall Street and gold
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Speaker 5: are both doing real well, a lot of my economics
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Speaker 5: friends say that's, you know, usually because the dollar isn't.
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Speaker 5: So I think it's good news that we were buying
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Speaker 5: more gold and silver as a hedge on those eventualities.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 23: Exactly what that means. It is rare for gold and
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Speaker 23: the stock market to move and tan them together. And
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Speaker 23: it really isn't that gold is going up in value.
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Speaker 23: It's that the dollar is going down in value, and
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Speaker 23: that's why gold is such a great hedge against a
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Speaker 23: shrinky dollar and against inflation.
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Speaker 5: Is that gold pretty much stays the same.
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Speaker 23: It's a shiny metal. It's really the value of the
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Speaker 23: dollar compared to gold, which fluctuates up and down. And
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Speaker 23: that just goes to show you just how much the
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Speaker 23: value of the dollar has gone down just over the
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Speaker 23: last year, but especially when you zoom out you look
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Speaker 23: at ten and the past twenty years, you can really
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Speaker 23: see that on the chart of that devaluing of the
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Speaker 23: dollar compared to gold.
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Speaker 5: And that's why it's.
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Speaker 23: Important to hold gold for the long term and to
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Speaker 23: buy it whenever you can. And you're allotted amount to
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Speaker 23: keep stacking gold and silver, so then you can be
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Speaker 23: prepared and store that generational wealth.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I never want to say anything for fear of
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Speaker 5: some member of the Virginia General Assembly or or any
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Speaker 5: other general Assembly might get the wrong idea. But in
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Speaker 5: my mind, you can never have too much gold or silver. Now,
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Speaker 5: an elected official might feel that way, and I don't
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Speaker 5: want Tom starting to think, hmm, what is too much?
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Speaker 5: Because you know how they are about that, James, give
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Speaker 5: three four ninety seven nine coin is their phone number. James,
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Speaker 5: you have a great Monday morning. Thanks to show you too,
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Speaker 5: and you know, be careful be nice to James when
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Speaker 5: you call him because he's going to be busy packing
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Speaker 5: boxes there. So I mentioned Joel was on the line,
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Speaker 5: and I wanted to You'll go back into this bit
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Speaker 5: about what changed in Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's mind
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Speaker 5: when it came to all the famous speeches they gave
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Speaker 5: when they were president about being against illegal immigration. So
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Speaker 5: your argument, if I'm correct in you know, I just
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Speaker 5: want to catch back up to where you were, is
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Speaker 5: your one? You want to know why Bill Clinton and
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Speaker 5: Barack Obama have changed their tune on illegal immigration. No,
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 19: I don't.
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Speaker 24: I don't want to say I want to know why.
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Speaker 24: I know why because at those times they were they
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Speaker 24: were thinking that those people at that time, they thought, hey,
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Speaker 24: they're gonna they're going to take away from what I'm
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Speaker 24: trying to do by keeping American people under class, that
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Speaker 24: within those cities, those inner cities, and in the countryside
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Speaker 24: and poor like let's say, poor appellation areas and then
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Speaker 24: and then poor rural areas, so that it took away
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Speaker 24: it was going to take away from from those people
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Speaker 24: that they were already keeping as an underclass.
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Speaker 9: Oh.
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Speaker 5: I see. So you're saying that that they thought that
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Speaker 5: they had it made with the poor rural Americans not
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Speaker 5: needing new ones.
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Speaker 24: Right their voters. But the people a lot of people
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Speaker 24: were getting wiser, they were they were understanding that Hey,
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Speaker 24: thinks these people are in here. They talk a good fight,
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Speaker 24: but they're not really doing anything. The people that the
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Speaker 24: people that weren't just living off the tab the people
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Speaker 24: that were really underclass but were trying to get ahead
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Speaker 24: by working and doing dutiful work.
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Speaker 5: You know, I understand. Is there a certain amount of
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Speaker 5: this though that comes into now from where they are
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Speaker 5: they're being used as spokespeople for the collapse of the
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Speaker 5: country that they once led. See, it's really good. You know,
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Speaker 5: there's there's a I forget the theorem that it's based on.
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Speaker 5: But the reason we extend secret Service protection to people
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Speaker 5: who were long since absent the presidency is because if
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Speaker 5: they get kidnapped and co opted into undermining American interests,
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Speaker 5: that's bad. But who's says they had to actually have
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Speaker 5: been kidnapped? What if this dossier out of Epstein Island.
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Speaker 5: This FSB agent that was running an op through Epstein
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Speaker 5: was manipulating and has been manipulating Bill, because this is
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Speaker 5: twenty you know, sixteen, twenty eighteen. This guy's twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 5: twenty eight to twenty sixteen. It seems like this guy's
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Speaker 5: interacting with Epstein. And that's the time when Bill's wife
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Speaker 5: is Secretary of State. So that's you know, so I
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Speaker 5: think you might look there to how people can use
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Speaker 5: their their position, their former position as a folk room
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Speaker 5: to get something that's un American. So when they were
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Speaker 5: actually responsible to the American people, they had to talk
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Speaker 5: one way. Now that they're just the spokesperson for a
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Speaker 5: Do you see what I'm getting at?
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Speaker 24: I do, But I wanted to go back to this too.
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Speaker 24: I saw President Trump and Saint Augustine when he was campaigning.
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Speaker 24: This was like early twenty sixteen, but he already had
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Speaker 24: told the people that illegal aliens are are destroying America
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Speaker 24: and they didn't really realize it and tell some of
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Speaker 24: their jobs were being undercut, and housing prices and everything
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Speaker 24: started disappearing. In school started clogging in and this is
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Speaker 24: before he was a president, so a lot of people
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Speaker 24: that was underclasses became constituents to him.
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Speaker 5: And I think that Bill Clinton, that's why Bill Clinton
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Speaker 5: wasn't think that's yeah. I'm just I'm just hang on
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Speaker 5: a second. I've got to do the because you got
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Speaker 5: to understand, Joel. You say stuff and then I get
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Speaker 5: blamed for it. Bill Clinton wasn't. Bill Clinton wasn't running
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Speaker 5: for president in twenty sixteen. Bill Clinton was president from
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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety two to two thousand. So if you saw
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Speaker 5: him in Saint Augustine, and it was in nineteen ninety Hey.
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Speaker 5: So I'll see odd headlines that maybe you don't see
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Speaker 5: if you're specifically going to First Thing Today and tuning
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Speaker 5: in or go into the news sites Newsmax or Fox
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Speaker 5: News or any married you know, conservative treehouse, that kind
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Speaker 5: of stuff, because then the Algre rhythm will you know,
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Speaker 5: say oh you like just this stuff, and they'll send
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Speaker 5: you stories that will tell you that five million people
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Speaker 5: tuned in to Kid Rocks halftime alternative show with Turning
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Speaker 5: Point USA, Candice Owens and the rest of the media
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Speaker 5: will say that's a conspiracy to make you you know,
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Speaker 5: Israel or something somewhat is a conspiracy. And we did
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Speaker 5: a little bit on this earlier in the program, because
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Speaker 5: you know, people watch the super Bowl. It's estimated one
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Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five million people tuned in for the
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Speaker 5: super Bowl. And yes, that's more than five but of
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Speaker 5: the one hundred and twenty five million people that were
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Speaker 5: watching the super Bowl game, I will guarant damn te
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Speaker 5: you because I've been back when I used to go
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Speaker 5: to parties like this. Nobody is watching the halftime show
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Speaker 5: because it's fifty to or one hundred people all crammed
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Speaker 5: into somebody's house, mingling about in rooms that the host
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Speaker 5: and hostess don't want them mingling around in, but they're
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Speaker 5: here and we can't like kick them out of them.
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Speaker 5: And I don't know why they want to be in
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Speaker 5: the bathroom, but they want to be in the bathroom
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Speaker 5: other people need to use that. So the amount of
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Speaker 5: people who are like, oh, I want to see what
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Speaker 5: bad Bunny does here great. This is Gary in Berlin,
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Speaker 5: New Hampshire watching the halftime show. So far, I don't
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Speaker 5: find it offensive, just stupid. No worse than the Patriots defense.
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Speaker 5: I could make the argument the Patriots offense was a
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Speaker 5: little stupid. What was it? Nine nothing at halftime? At
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Speaker 5: this point I would have paid to watch Kid Rock
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Speaker 5: play football against Bad Bunny, you know, a little flag
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Speaker 5: football between the two of them that might have been
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Speaker 5: more entertaining than the field goal fest. I would agree
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Speaker 5: that stupid can also be offensive. Well certainly, I mean
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Speaker 5: you've dumbed down something to the point, Gary, and thank
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Speaker 5: you for your text message on that. And I don't
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Speaker 5: with affiliates in New England and in the Pacific Northwest.
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Speaker 5: Oh why did the email come in? Earlier in the show?
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Speaker 5: I made the I opened a question to our listeners
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Speaker 5: in Portland and and Corvallis, because we don't have an
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Speaker 5: affiliate in Seattle, per se, but we have you know, Sandpoint, Idaho,
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Speaker 5: and Callispell, Montana. So the Pacific Northwest is represented within
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Speaker 5: the audience. But is there that kind of thing like, Ah,
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Speaker 5: we're from Portland, we don't root for Seattle. I mean
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Speaker 5: the football is different. I mean I see this in
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Speaker 5: basketball and baseball and a lot of regionalism where you know,
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Speaker 5: Portland might not care what happens to Seattle. Our our
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Speaker 5: riots against Trump were bigger than your riots against Trump whatever.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, mostly peaceful protests against tyranny, right, that's in
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Speaker 5: any event, Marcus writes in from Salem. He says, he says, Joe,
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Speaker 5: there was a football game last night. Damn I missed it.
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Speaker 2: So there you go.
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Speaker 5: There's the voice of Portland saying there was a there
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Speaker 5: was a football game last night, Damn I missed it.
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Speaker 5: And this is the peril of all of this stuff
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Speaker 5: because it's driven by the networks, and it's driven by numbers,
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Speaker 5: and it's it's a stunt to gain you know, tune
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Speaker 5: ins to be a special hey, pay attention to me moment.
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Speaker 5: And it used to be these networks would use the
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl or the World Series of the NBA Finals
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Speaker 5: or any of these big World Cup soccer to promote
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Speaker 5: their other programming. I got that. Our flagship station asked
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Speaker 5: me why I was giving you know, sports fans announcements
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Speaker 5: about upcoming talk shows that are in our regular lineup.
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Speaker 5: I said, because maybe it's somebody who didn't know. I mean,
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Speaker 5: you're getting new people like, oh, we can tune in
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Speaker 5: on the radio to the station and I can tell them, hey,
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Speaker 5: tune in for a first thing today with Joe Thomas
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Speaker 5: in the morning. They might not have known. That's what
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Speaker 5: the networks used to use it for Now it's I
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Speaker 5: don't know how you get a return on investment when
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Speaker 5: you have to pay the multitudes of dollars that you
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Speaker 5: have to pay for the rights fees. I don't see
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Speaker 5: how you pencil that kind of thing out. But as
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Speaker 5: long as there's one hundred and twenty seven million eyeballs
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Speaker 5: at some point with the TV on, I guess at
52:44
Speaker 5: the you know the point, who you know? The were
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Speaker 5: the commercials more popular than Bad Bonnie.
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