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Full Show Podcast: 04 June 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: This is the issues, the interviews and the insight. Francesca
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  Speaker 1: Rudgin on Early Edition with Spark for Business Technology that
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  Speaker 1: keeps business moving News talks.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be good morning, welcome to Early Edition. I'm Francisca
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  Speaker 2: Budkins filling in for Ryan Bridge this morning. Good to
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  Speaker 2: have you with us. You are most welcome to contact
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  Speaker 2: me any time this morning. You can flict me a
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  Speaker 2: text on ninety two ninety two or you could email
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  Speaker 2: me at Francesca at Newstalk fib dot co dot MZ.
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  Speaker 2: On the show today, four New Zealand MP's have been
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  Speaker 2: banned from China for visiting Taiwan. Is this a big deal?
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  Speaker 2: What does it say about our relationship with China? We
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  Speaker 2: discussed whether three days bereavement leave is enough support for
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  Speaker 2: grieving New Zealanders. And the government has a new idea
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  Speaker 2: to stop at risk youth from reoffending. Get them into sport.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like more fun than a boot camp.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It's Thursday, the fourth of June. The Trump administration has
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  Speaker 2: proposed a new twelve point five percent tariff on fifty
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  Speaker 2: four countries, including New Zealand, for allegedly failing to take
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  Speaker 2: action to prevent slavery. The tariff is the latest step
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  Speaker 2: to replace the global tariffs struck down by the US
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court in February. Here's US Trade Representative jameson Greer, and.
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  Speaker 4: We're investigating specific unfair training practices by different countries, and
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  Speaker 4: we're covering a lot of countries over over seventy countries,
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  Speaker 4: and so you will see over the next few weeks
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  Speaker 4: we'll be releasing reports on our findings and if we
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  Speaker 4: find unfair trading practices, structural access capacity, forced labor, things
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  Speaker 4: like this, we'll put out proposals on how we think
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  Speaker 4: we should fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Knyah, who has spoken about his reported explosive call
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  Speaker 2: with Donald Trump earlier this week, nicking out, who said
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  Speaker 2: he wouldn't go into specifics.
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  Speaker 3: This is a crisis we should be in some other conversations,
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  Speaker 3: but we've always found a way. We have so many agreements.
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  Speaker 4: We agree on.
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  Speaker 3: The main things.
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  Speaker 4: We want to get.
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  Speaker 3: Iran, the nuclear program in Iran finished. We want to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that Iran doesn't pose a threat to is Will,
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  Speaker 3: to the Middle East, to America, that it doesn't develop
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  Speaker 3: nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them. Not only
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  Speaker 3: to his will, to every capital when you were put
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  Speaker 3: to every studium the United States. So we have common goals.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we have, as I'm the best of families, have
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  Speaker 3: these tactical disagreements where you always find a way we
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  Speaker 3: work them out.
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine has carried out a strike on the outskirts of
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  Speaker 2: Russia's Saint Petersburg, just as before the opening of a
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  Speaker 2: major economic forum.
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  Speaker 5: It's a pretty embarrassing picture when all these foreign visitors
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  Speaker 5: are coming to Saint Petersburg. The Ukrainian military is saying
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  Speaker 5: that it hits the oil terminal of Saint Petersburg, and
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of footage circulating online showing burning tanks
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  Speaker 5: at the facility. There's also footage of apparently are Ukrainian
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  Speaker 5: drone striking the nearby naval base at Kronstadt.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven police officers and a police dog have been injured
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  Speaker 2: in the UK during protest over police handling of the
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  Speaker 2: Henry Noek case. Prime Minister Keirs Damus is there's no
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  Speaker 2: justification for the violence.
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  Speaker 6: The attacks directed towards police officers in Southampton last night.
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  Speaker 6: We're disgraceful and completely unacceptable. This is a time for
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  Speaker 6: serious work, not rage, and let me be clear. We
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  Speaker 6: will ensure anyone found engaging in disorder means the full
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  Speaker 6: force of the law, as we have done before.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with friend
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  Speaker 1: Jesica Rudkin and Spark for Business technology that keeps business moving,
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  Speaker 1: news talks, it'd be.
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  Speaker 2: It's nine past five, so there's a new poll out,
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  Speaker 2: Roy Morgan's poll. I know that we're going to be
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  Speaker 2: inundated with poles for the next five months and there's
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  Speaker 2: only so much attention we should give them. But this
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  Speaker 2: poll was interesting for two reasons. One, it felt like
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  Speaker 2: it reflects public sentiment a bit more. I think people
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  Speaker 2: have been wondering how long can labor keep remaining steady
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  Speaker 2: or going up in the polls by doing nothing in
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  Speaker 2: this poll suggests suggests that time is up. Roy Morgan's
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  Speaker 2: pole from May. This was undertaken before the budget show
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  Speaker 2: support for Prime Minister Christopher Luckxin's National Lead Government has
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  Speaker 2: surged in May, opening up the government's largest lead for
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  Speaker 2: well over eighteen months since about September twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: So the National Lead Government is up four percent to
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  Speaker 2: fifty one point five, opening a large lead over Labour
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  Speaker 2: Greens to party Maori opposition down six point five percent
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  Speaker 2: to forty one point five. The survey results would see
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  Speaker 2: the National lead government winning sixty three seats. Labour led
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  Speaker 2: parliamentary opposition would have about fifty seats, both down about
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  Speaker 2: five so relatively steady few jobs lost. But the Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: who did quietly fight for his leadership recently, will be
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  Speaker 2: very pleased because support for National increase five percent to
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  Speaker 2: thirty point five percent. Of that is movement in the
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  Speaker 2: right direction. Support for New Zealand vers An Act was
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  Speaker 2: both down abouto point five percent, a Labour plunged seven
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  Speaker 2: point five to twenty six point five percent. Our support
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  Speaker 2: for the Greens increased one point five percent to twelve
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  Speaker 2: point five support for To Party Murray was down point
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  Speaker 2: five to two point five percent. The other interesting result
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  Speaker 2: is with the minor parties outside parliament. According to this poll,
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  Speaker 2: the Opportunity Party would win its first seats in Parliament
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  Speaker 2: with its support of six percent, which is up two
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  Speaker 2: percent and is enough to secure the party seven seats.
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  Speaker 2: So Top Top's new leader que Long Kwoilee Wong has
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  Speaker 2: been out and about. She's been working very very hard,
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  Speaker 2: so obviously that is paying off and it is worth
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  Speaker 2: keeping an eye on them. It is eleven past five.
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  Speaker 2: You're with early edition.
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  Speaker 1: Francesca Rudkin on early edition, with spark for business technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving US talks that.
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  Speaker 2: Be just going back to these new tariffs that Trump
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  Speaker 2: has proposed. This isn't the Sydney Morning Herald this morning. Now,
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  Speaker 2: It is only a proposal. This is someone sitting in
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  Speaker 2: a back room who's come up with the pearler of
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  Speaker 2: an idea. But because of course, the current ten percent
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  Speaker 2: tariffs are about to expire in July, and someone's going, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how can we keep these sort of these important tariffs
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  Speaker 2: in place and on the go. So they've come up
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  Speaker 2: with this idea and fifty four countries including China, Vietnam, Japan,
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  Speaker 2: the United Kingdom and New Zealand have been are going
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  Speaker 2: to be hit potentially with this twelve point five percent tariff,
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  Speaker 2: which is not great. It's up a little bit, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: What we're currently playing. And it's due to the fact
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  Speaker 2: that they've been doing this investigation and they've found that
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  Speaker 2: countries like US, we're subjecting US producers to unfair competition
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  Speaker 2: from forced labor goods and both export markets and the
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  Speaker 2: US market, and by displacing foreign goods produced without forced
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  Speaker 2: labor or forced labor inputs from their domestic market the
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  Speaker 2: United States and other markets. Another point we have been
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  Speaker 2: we haven't been strong enough about making sure that we
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  Speaker 2: are not importing or making goods and things that require
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  Speaker 2: that use slavery. So that's an interesting one. We will
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  Speaker 2: keep an eye on that. I'm not quite too sure
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  Speaker 2: where that is going to go, and I you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Sydney Morning Herald of course makes the comment that
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  Speaker 2: the government sources there are sort of scrambling to understand
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  Speaker 2: the implications of this new proposed tariff at the moment
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  Speaker 2: they were believing it wouldn't sit on top of the
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  Speaker 2: existing ten percent tariff. It would be if imposed after
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  Speaker 2: a consultation period, then that would mean that the tariffs
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  Speaker 2: would move from a ten percent to a twelve point
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  Speaker 2: five percent tariff, no doubt, no doubt. You know when
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  Speaker 2: they can come to that, when I expire, this is
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  Speaker 2: the word I'm trying to come up with. Okay, we
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  Speaker 2: were the really interesting story on the front of the
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand Herald. Four MP's from a cross party delegation
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  Speaker 2: visited Taiwan in early May. It was ax Laura McClair, Nationals, Moore,
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  Speaker 2: En Pooh Pugh, Labour's Duncan Webb and David Wilson from
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand first and next thing, you know, they get
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  Speaker 2: a little note saying that these parliamentarians have been banned
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  Speaker 2: from heading to China because they visited Taiwan, so they
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  Speaker 2: can't go to China, Hong or Macaw. So of course
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  Speaker 2: the question there is is this a little bit unusual
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  Speaker 2: or is this perfectly normal. It's a very good question.
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  Speaker 2: We have been told that this is pretty normal for China,
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  Speaker 2: that they banned EU parliamentarians for the same thing a
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  Speaker 2: few years ago, and the EU banned Chinese visits for
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  Speaker 2: eight years. You know, is it a good sign that
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand is supportive of Taiwan? Your backbench MP's were
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  Speaker 2: sent because ministers wouldn't be able to go. China is
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  Speaker 2: going to do what China does. And look, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this has any impact on our relationship with China.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know whether you would call us an escalation
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  Speaker 2: in any form. It sounds like it's pretty sort of
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  Speaker 2: common thing to do. It will be interesting though, to
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  Speaker 2: see whether Winston Peters responds to this, I'm sure that
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  Speaker 2: there will be. Please explain. We'll see where else it
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  Speaker 2: leads to. It is seventeen past five. You're with News
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen past five. A Christ to your Mother is launching
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  Speaker 2: a petition to expand the number of bereavement days employees get.
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  Speaker 2: Shanna Hemmons's daughter died in twenty twenty three and she
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  Speaker 2: had to take months off work to recover from the grief.
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  Speaker 2: Under the Current Holidays Act, workers are entitled to three
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  Speaker 2: days leave for the death of an immediate family member.
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  Speaker 2: Sena wants that raised to ten. Shanna Hemmons is the
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  Speaker 2: founder of Beyond three Days, who are launching the petition.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Sheena, thanks so much for your time.
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  Speaker 7: No, probably, good morning Francesca, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Why does this need to change?
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  Speaker 7: Well, firstly, it has been in New Zealand law for
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  Speaker 7: over forty years, forty five from nineteen eighty one. Nothing
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  Speaker 7: has changed in that time, and yet since then, all
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  Speaker 7: the other statutory leave periods have increased, we have had
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  Speaker 7: COVID times, we have had mossk aitecs, we have had
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  Speaker 7: all kinds of things happen, and it's still three days.
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  Speaker 7: And yet out of everything, bereavement is the one guaranteed
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  Speaker 7: thing that we cannot avoid. People are going to die.
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  Speaker 7: People in our close immediate families will at some point die.
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  Speaker 7: And that sounds so negative and it sounds so dark,
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  Speaker 7: but that's the truth, and so we need to actually
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  Speaker 7: address this. And also the bereavement causes actual mental stress
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  Speaker 7: and consequences that make it very difficult for people to
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  Speaker 7: come back to work with it in three days. So
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  Speaker 7: there are lots of reasons where why it needs to change.
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  Speaker 2: So Sheena, how are people getting by at the moment
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  Speaker 2: on three days? That's not even enough time for some
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  Speaker 2: people to hold a funeral. Are they relying on holiday
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  Speaker 2: leave or sick leave or just taking leave without pay?
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question, and it's probably a
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  Speaker 7: combination of all three. And you know, my attitude is
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  Speaker 7: I'm a business owner. I've been a business owner for
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  Speaker 7: twenty years. I've had small businesses, I owned a restaurant,
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  Speaker 7: hospitality of Historically, you know you have lots of lots
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  Speaker 7: of employees, and it's I get the fact that it's
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  Speaker 7: a big stress potentially on a business, particularly a small business,
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  Speaker 7: But to ask them to take holiday when someone close
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  Speaker 7: to them has died when it's it's certainly not a
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  Speaker 7: holiday in that period, but ask them to take sickly, which,
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  Speaker 7: to be honest, I thought was illegal. I didn't think
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  Speaker 7: you could take sick leave unless you were sick, and
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  Speaker 7: being in grief is not being sick, it's totally different.
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  Speaker 7: So the options, those are the two options at the moment,
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  Speaker 7: all unpaid leave, and for many that is not a
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  Speaker 7: fiscal option. So it means that at the worst time
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  Speaker 7: of their lives, when they've lost a child or lost
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  Speaker 7: a partner or a parent, they are being asked to
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  Speaker 7: be under financial pressure. And that seems just inhuman And
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  Speaker 7: I think they're recognizing that in other parts of the world,
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  Speaker 7: and the laws are changing or have changed, and I
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  Speaker 7: believe that this is now a time when we should
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  Speaker 7: look at how we manage it here.
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  Speaker 2: So how does our movement leave currently differ from others
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  Speaker 2: around the world.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it is only three days, and it is it's
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  Speaker 7: a blank for everyone. Everybody has the same no matter
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  Speaker 7: what the bereavement is, it's covered by immediate. The wording
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  Speaker 7: is immediate family members. But it doesn't matter whether that
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  Speaker 7: is a grandparent or if it's a child now a grandparent.
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  Speaker 7: As much as it can be absolutely devastating for some people,
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  Speaker 7: it is the natural order of things. But losing a child,
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  Speaker 7: which is what happened to me, is devastating, it is
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  Speaker 7: life changing, and losing a partner it can be very
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  Speaker 7: much the same. So at the moment, it's heartwash. You
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  Speaker 7: do just get three days. In a lot of other
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  Speaker 7: countries they have a tiered system have they take into
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  Speaker 7: account what the relationship is and they give more leave
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  Speaker 7: for the loss of a child or a lot of
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  Speaker 7: a partner. I believe in Canada, if you lose your
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  Speaker 7: partner you get twenty days paid leave.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to
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  Speaker 2: us through this this morning. Thank you very much. It
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  Speaker 2: is twenty four past five. Keen to hear from you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there is a New Zealander who wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: agree that three days if you lost a child, three
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  Speaker 2: days bereavement leave is ridiculous, right But I but you know,
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  Speaker 2: as she also recognize the economy isn't great at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: If you are a small business, how would you feel
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  Speaker 2: if that was changed, if the law was changed up
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  Speaker 2: to potentially ten days Bereavemently love to hear from your
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  Speaker 1: The Early edition Full the show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
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  Speaker 2: It is twenty six past five and podcast Earlier this week,
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  Speaker 2: Former First Lady Michelle Obama had some wisdom for the
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  Speaker 2: gen Z generation that they're age between fourteen and twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine when it comes to employment in their work ethic,
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  Speaker 2: She said she wants gen zs to understand that every experience,
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  Speaker 2: the bad boss, the boring assistant job, the job you
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  Speaker 2: weren't appreciated in, the one that didn't give you the
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  Speaker 2: assignment you wanted when you wanted it, all of that
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  Speaker 2: is teaching them to be resilient. Why is it important
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  Speaker 2: to learn to endure a boring job, a bad boss,
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  Speaker 2: or setbacks. While she believes gen Z's need the instant
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  Speaker 2: gratification means that they're not getting the experiences they need
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  Speaker 2: to develop the skills needed to be good leaders, she
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  Speaker 2: feels young people today want to do what they want
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  Speaker 2: to do or what they're good at, but that it's
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  Speaker 2: just as valuable to learn to do something they don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do and to do it well Now. I
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  Speaker 2: think Michame Obama has a really good point. Sometimes in
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  Speaker 2: a job, you just have to suck it up to
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  Speaker 2: get the money and experience needed to help you to
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  Speaker 2: get to where you want to be. But I'd argue
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  Speaker 2: that many young people are working jobs they don't particularly enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: With a seventeen and a nineteen year old, I see
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  Speaker 2: it all around me, whether they're high school students earning
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  Speaker 2: some spending cash, university students working part time to pay
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  Speaker 2: for their education and living costs, those who have been
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  Speaker 2: told by their parents learn or earn, or graduates taking
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  Speaker 2: whatever job they can get. I also see a lot
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  Speaker 2: of students with work experience applying constantly for jobs and
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  Speaker 2: getting nowhere. So no, I don't see a lazy generation
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  Speaker 2: afraid of doing a job they don't like. What we
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  Speaker 2: do have, though, is a difficult youth market stats. New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand figures show youth employment has risen substantially since twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two. The share of young people not in work.
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  Speaker 2: Educational training remains at its highest since the pandemic, at
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  Speaker 2: fourteen point four percent. New Zealand's overall unemployment rate was
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  Speaker 2: five point three percent in March, from the unusually low
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  Speaker 2: rates seen during twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 2: and of course young workers are usually the first group
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  Speaker 2: affected when hiring slows. We also know entry level and
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  Speaker 2: graduate jobs appear harder to obtain because competition has increased,
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  Speaker 2: Employers are hiring more cautiously, and if Reddit is anything
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  Speaker 2: to go by, employers want graduates with one to three
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  Speaker 2: years experience. Even for entry level jobs. I think you'll
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  Speaker 2: find most young people are taking what they can get.
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  Speaker 2: Scarcity of jobs mean being choosy is in an option,
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  Speaker 2: and of course there will always be some who find
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  Speaker 2: life easier sitting on the couch and taking a benefit.
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  Speaker 2: There always has been. Maybe it's a slightly different approach
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  Speaker 2: to work that irks the rest of us a little.
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  Speaker 2: Gen zs typically put more importance on work life balance,
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  Speaker 2: mental health meaning for work, and flexible working arrangements. This
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  Speaker 2: can be frustrating for employers, but there are plenty of
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  Speaker 2: middle aged workerholics who have belatedly realized there's real value
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  Speaker 2: in work life balance. They're one step ahead of us
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  Speaker 2: on some things.
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  Speaker 1: Youth Talk said, be.
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  Speaker 2: So can to hear your thoughts. You might be an
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  Speaker 2: employer a parent. Are gen z more resistant to working
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  Speaker 2: jobs they don't really want to do or you know,
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  Speaker 2: if need requires it? Are they just getting on with
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  Speaker 2: the job. You're most welcome to Text ninety two ninety
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  Speaker 1: Hearritt first. Francesca Rudkin on early edition with spark for
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  Speaker 2: How this is early edition on Newstalks ZV. I'm Franchester
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  Speaker 2: Rudkin filling in for Bryan today. Thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: But at White Stripes to kick us off. Jack Black,
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  Speaker 2: who of course is one half of the White Stripes duo.
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  Speaker 2: He has just opened an show, his first art show.
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  Speaker 2: It's taken place at Danien Hurst's Newport Street Gallery. Not
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  Speaker 2: the best reviews for the artists. He's getting one out
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  Speaker 2: of five stars, with one reviewer stating that as a
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  Speaker 2: visual artist, White is a complete non starter. His art
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  Speaker 2: is like a twelve year old visiting Take Modern for
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  Speaker 2: the first time, So that's a bit rough. Isn't it
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  Speaker 2: right still to come this? Yesterday we spoke about President
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  Speaker 2: Trump's angry call with benmin Nick and Yahoo. Overnight he
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  Speaker 2: has confirmed the call and that he called him a
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  Speaker 2: few things, a few names, and that he's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit perturbed about his constant fighting with Lebanons and more
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  Speaker 2: on this shortly with our US correspondent. Also this hour,
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  Speaker 2: we look at a new program funded by the government
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  Speaker 2: that aims to help at risk youth from reoffending by
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: getting them into sport.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty two to six. Right, let's head around the country now,
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  Speaker 2: and joining us from Dunedin is Claudia O'Neill. Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: my now. How is Danedin's new mental health support service going?
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  Speaker 8: So?
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  Speaker 9: A new crisis recovery cafe has opened across two sites
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  Speaker 9: in South Dunedin and Northeast Valley. It's the second facility
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  Speaker 9: in the South Island to provide a one stop shop
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  Speaker 9: for free wrap around help in a homey cafe style
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  Speaker 9: setting rather than a clinical environment. The Mental Health Minister
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  Speaker 9: says demand is high. Maducie says it's encouraging to know
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  Speaker 9: people are getting referred from emergency departments to get non
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  Speaker 9: clinical safe support. He says peer support can be scaled
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  Speaker 9: see more open up around the country.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting and Denedin's weather.
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  Speaker 9: It's light Northeastily's with a spot or two of rain.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Claudia. Joining us now in christ
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  Speaker 2: Church Claire Sherwood. Good morning, Claire. What is the latest
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  Speaker 2: with christ Church's red zone?
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Yes, it will be interesting to see if
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  Speaker 10: the community responds it like they have at Pegasus, Francesca.
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: We've got local residents coming to here that to talk
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: about the future of some quake damage to land in
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: the Red Zone tonight. Christ Church City Council a few
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: weeks ago now identified more than ten here is across
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  Speaker 10: eleven different sites in the red zone that it deems
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  Speaker 10: could be suitable for redevelopment. This is where thousands of
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  Speaker 10: people were forced from their homes due to land instability
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  Speaker 10: issues after the earthquakes. Now, the Avon Or tarket Or
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  Speaker 10: Network manager Hailey Gouletta says the land holds deep meaning
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  Speaker 10: to the community and the community has to speak up
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  Speaker 10: basically and voice concerns in this open discussion tonight and
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  Speaker 10: deal with that delicately.
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  Speaker 2: She says.
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  Speaker 10: There'll be some speakers talking about other options aside from housing,
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  Speaker 10: and she really hopes that this sort of coming together
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  Speaker 10: of the community will put the residents at ease. Feedback
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  Speaker 10: from this forum will then be presented to christ Church
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  Speaker 10: City Council and the weather today, Claire, some low cloud
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: about this morning, a few spots of rain about mid day,
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  Speaker 10: northeasteries picking up and nineteen degrees.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Claire, have a good day, and
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: joining us from Wellington now is Adam Cooper.
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  Speaker 11: Good morning morning, Francesca.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, so we are still talking about the Wellington region
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  Speaker 2: and amalgamation.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, Wellington and Andrew Little gave his tentative support to
• 21:59
  Speaker 11: the idea of a mal alugamation in a speech to
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  Speaker 11: regional leaders yesterday. It's triggered a fair bit of a
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  Speaker 11: conversation around it again.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 11: The mayors of Hut City and Potty Deo were both
• 22:07
  Speaker 11: there in the crowd. They agree it's time to have
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  Speaker 11: a serious conversation too about merging the region's councils and
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: I guess for them it could mean not being mayors
• 22:15
  Speaker 11: of their particular areas, but they are still pretty supportive.
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  Speaker 11: Councils across the country, of course, have just ten weeks
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  Speaker 11: to submit proposals to the government or risk being forced
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  Speaker 11: into some form of amalgamation. Hut mayor Ken Laban commends
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  Speaker 11: Little for taking the lead on it, while Potty do
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  Speaker 11: is at Itita Baker says she hopes Wellingtonians understand the
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  Speaker 11: tough situation councils are in and the change is inevitable.
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  Speaker 11: The squeaky wheel and all this could be Upper Hut,
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  Speaker 11: though Mayor Perry's ie was noticeably absent from the audience
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  Speaker 11: in Little's speech yesterday. She has been cautious about supporting
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  Speaker 11: amalgamation in the past, but as adamant she'll support whatever
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  Speaker 11: the consensus is from her Upper Hut constituents.
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  Speaker 2: And Wellington's weather today.
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  Speaker 11: Adam mostly cloudy today, a few showers. Xana, Hi have sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Neither Ritty Mano was in the
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  Speaker 2: Auckland studio. Good morning, Good morning for each So we're
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: going to get the road cones out.
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  Speaker 12: Yes again bye. We have never been inside. Actually I've
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  Speaker 12: always been out.
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  Speaker 2: So we're going to get quite a few out for
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  Speaker 2: the number. I think you're right.
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  Speaker 12: One of Alkin's most notorious intersections in line for a
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  Speaker 12: makeover to address gridlock. Where is it? Devenport so Ats
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  Speaker 12: proposing you know, a series of changes. This is to
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  Speaker 12: Lake Road. Everyone knows Devenport's Lake Road. It's always been
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  Speaker 12: one of those spots. A So it includes a morning
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  Speaker 12: clearway between Bayswater Avenue and Egremont Street from seven am
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  Speaker 12: to nine am. So this will provide more space for vehicles.
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  Speaker 12: Heating to Takapuna to merge safely. These changes, they'll also
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  Speaker 12: convert and this is for Greenland Williamson. F you know,
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  Speaker 12: converting that zebra crossing. I think people will know that
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  Speaker 12: one quite well into a signal operated crosswalk instead. So
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  Speaker 12: what I can tell you is that consultation is open
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  Speaker 12: now and it's going to close until June twenty first.
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  Speaker 2: So have you say have you say you've got something
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  Speaker 2: to say?
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  Speaker 1: Say it?
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  Speaker 12: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Opens with it today.
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  Speaker 12: Well it's some cloudy showers in the afternoon, a high
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  Speaker 12: outside than in this studio. Stop it go on about
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  Speaker 12: this every day.
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  Speaker 2: I'd just like to say best of luck for tonight.
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  Speaker 12: I'm very very grateful to be your finalist.
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  Speaker 12: We're not going to know you were going tonight. Here
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  Speaker 2: were off the UIs. Kady Fisher is.
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  Speaker 1: With US International Correspondence with ins andn Eye Insurance Peace
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  Speaker 2: It has time to hear the UIs and Kate Fisher
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  Speaker 2: joins me. Now, good morning, Kate, Good morning. So President
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  Speaker 2: Trump has confumed he did have a bit of an
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  Speaker 2: angry call with Nick Nyahoo. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: This was on a podcast recording that's been released today,
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  Speaker 13: and he did say I will not use the terms
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  Speaker 13: but an expletive crazy. He said he did call the
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  Speaker 13: Israeli leader that in a phone call, and he said
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  Speaker 13: that he was a little bit perturbed about Israel's continued
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  Speaker 13: fighting with Lebanon, but he acknowledged that they do get
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  Speaker 13: on well. He gets on well with his Israeli counterpart,
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  Speaker 13: calling them both wartime leaders. And then Benjamin Ettannier, who
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  Speaker 13: has responded and said in an interview on CNBC that
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  Speaker 13: sometimes he and Donald Trump have what he describes as
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  Speaker 13: tactical disagreements, but that they have common goals and do
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  Speaker 13: agree on the main things. But I think this shows
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  Speaker 13: just how difficult the situation is because Donald Trump wants
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  Speaker 13: to see a diplomatic end to this conflict with Iran,
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  Speaker 13: but Israeli leadered Benjamin ettan Yahoo isn't so keen on
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  Speaker 13: that and is pushing for more military action, and that
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  Speaker 13: could mean there's a difficulty in how this all ends.
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  Speaker 2: Kate primaries and several states are underway. What are the
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  Speaker 2: big takeaways? What do we know so far?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I think one of the most interesting things
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  Speaker 13: is that one of Donald Trump's endorsed candidates did not win.
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  Speaker 13: So far this election season, his endorsement has helped end
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  Speaker 13: the careers of two Senators John Cornyn of Texas, Bill
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  Speaker 13: Cassidy of Louisiana, and a popular Kentucky representative, Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 13: because he has supported other candidates, but in this election
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  Speaker 13: for governor of Iowa for the primary, sorry, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 13: backed Randy Feinstra and he was beaten by Zach larn
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  Speaker 13: And that is the first time in this election season
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  Speaker 13: that a Senate, a governor, or a house race that
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  Speaker 13: Donald Trump has intervened in has gone against his wishes,
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  Speaker 13: which does perhaps suggest there is still some pushback within
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  Speaker 13: his Republican voting base who doesn't always agree with everything
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  Speaker 13: he said, because he has kind of sailed to victory
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  Speaker 13: in these other races so far.
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  Speaker 2: Kate Fisher, thank you so much for your time this
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  Speaker 2: morning News Talk, Sibby. It is eleven to six. The
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Sports Minister wants to use sport to stop you three offending.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: He's putting eight million towards a community program which would
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: see at risk youth put into sport and physical activity.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Mac Mitchell is a sports minister and the police Minister,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and he joins me, now, thanks so much for your
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  Speaker 2: time this morning. Mac, Good morning, Good morning.
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: Francis. Can know you're welcome.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Is it because you are both sports minister and police minister?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: You can see this connection between young people and the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: need for sport.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I've always been a huge believer. Even
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: when I had my own plasing career, I was heavily
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: involved in Blue Light and I can just see what
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: a positive impact sport has on young people. And of
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: course a lot of our youth offenders missing out, they
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: haven't got access to sport or recreation for whatever reason.
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: And so I saw a big opportunity when I became
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: sports a sport and rec minister to put some money
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: into trying to reach those kids and get them into
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: sport newsatus a way of getting them on the right path.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Mark who is the sport? Is it for less at
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: risk kids than those that might go to boot camp?
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: Yes, it is, but it's the whole range, it's a
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: whole range of kids. So this is even funding the
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: program inside our youth justice facilities to actually get our
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: kids active, get them involved in sport, get good role
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: models and mentors around them, get them learning how to
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: work as a team. There's no downside, it's just all
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: positive upside. If you get kids and engaged in sport
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: and get them physically active.
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  Speaker 2: Sound a little bit more fun than a boot camp?
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 8: Well, the youth military academies were designed around the l SV,
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: which involves a lot of physical activity. And the funny
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: thing is the first youth military camp that we actually
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: delivered through orang A Tamariki. The kids on that were
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: asking for more of it. They wanted to get out
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: and do more team building, they wanted to get out
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: and do more physical exercise. So it just goes to
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: show how we know what a positive impact it does
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  Speaker 8: have on them.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Are there already programs like this in action? Are they
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: seeing good results and that's why you want to back them?
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, totally. So that's exactly what we've done, is we're
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: identifying trusted community organizations that have got approving capability with
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: strong local connections, and we're using we're funding them and
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: I've visited one of them yesterday in South Akland. They're
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: doing an outstanding job and getting great results. And those
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: are the sort of organizations that we're funding around the country.
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: Champions Initiative, Billy Graham with Boxing, Blue Light, the Rise Program,
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: Live for More, and Towering It. So programs that are
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: really that have been around for a while can deliver results.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: We're giving them additional funding so they can get rich
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: more kids.
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  Speaker 2: So what does success look like? Is it as simple
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: as we're keeping them out of the justice system.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's I mean, that's the obviously We had a
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: target when we came in government to reduce youth file
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: and offending by fifteen percent by twenty thirty. We're well
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: on track to achieve that. We don't want our kids
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: going into the youth justice system because often that's a
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: fast track into the adult system. So I just want
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  Speaker 8: to get the best role models and mentors we can
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  Speaker 8: around them, get them engaged in sports. Sport can be
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: you can transform lives, and we want to show that
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: we believe in them and that we want to invest
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: in them, and that we want to as young people.
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: We want them to embrace all the opportunities that our
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: country has instead of making bad decisions and ending up
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: in the youth justice system.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So if this is successful, could you put more money
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: into it in the future.
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Yes, I've got eight million dollars put towards it now.
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: Two point two million has already gone out with these
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: five programs, and yes, I'd like to put more money
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: towards it absolutely.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Look one I've got you can I just quickly talk
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: to you about Mina PACIFICA. Would you support it being
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: brought by a private group if it meant it moved
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: to Hawaii?
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day. I'd
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: love to see more on a pacifica continue as a
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Pacific based franchise. But but the real give it is
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: we'd already put five million dollars of tax PAS money
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: into it. There's two point seven of that we're probably
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: going to have to write off and I'm waiting for
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: advice back from sport Reef in terms of whether we
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: can recover that. We're probably too far down the list
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: in terms of creditors. But I just I don't support
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: putting more tax PAS money into it. If there's a
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: private option that can come forward to forward to support
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: and own a professional franchise supporting franchise, that would be great.
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: I just don't think it's the right use of TAXPARS
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: money at the moment.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, thank you very much for your time this morning.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. It is seven to six.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's just talking about in general. Well, we've
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  Speaker 2: market at the moment and graduate job market at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: So that's why it looks like everyone's kind of sitting
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  Speaker 2: on the bets. But I think she's talking about their
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  Speaker 2: attitude to work, like they they've got a work life balance.
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  Speaker 2: But I know a lot of middle aged people here
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  Speaker 2: who finally went, what have I been doing? And there's
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  Speaker 2: something to that. There is something to it. It's everything.
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  Speaker 2: The flip sidnes are the same coin, right, But I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to let young people be sort of all
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  Speaker 2: thrown into one basket and told that they're a bit
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  Speaker 2: lazy and they're precious that they're not. I see kids
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  Speaker 2: around me all the time who are awesome and are
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  Speaker 2: working really hard. You're making things happen. You've obviously got
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  Speaker 2: a young group don't put up with the bs that
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  Speaker 2: we did. Yeah, right, but sometimes you have to put
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  Speaker 2: up Now it works work our office, We have lots
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  Speaker 2: of young people, don't we, who work really really hard. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and they're here to get on and do well. And
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: yes we're not talking about that. We've just had another
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  Speaker 2: tariff slept on us by the state, so we're going
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to talk about this after seven. I'll give everybody the
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  Speaker 2: details as soon as I possibly can. Fantastic, Thank you
• 34:22
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